Jet2Leeds
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1st Trip Report: AMS – LBA, KLM Cityhopper

Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:49 am

Trip Report: AMS -- LBA
Airline: KLM Cityhopper, KL 1546
Aircraft: Fokker 100
Date: 30 Oct.

Here goes my very first trip report, feel free to give me some feedback.
The day started off pretty badly, I was late at the airport because of drinking the night before. Luckily I had already checked in online, the KLM website is excellent. Arrived at the airport after a stressful journey from Rotterdam, and dropped off my bags. I had just enough time on my hands for a cup of over priced coffee and a sandwich. As far as I know, most Cityhopper flights to the UK and some to Eastern Europe(?) depart from gate D06, which is on the lower level of the airport. A bus took us to our Fokker 100, which sadly hadn't been painted in the new KLM colours. The layout of the Fokker 70/100 is 2+3, I took my seat, 5A, which is right behind the Europe Select class. Personally, I think Europe Select seems to be a bit of a rip-off, the seats are the same and the only perks are a nicer sandwich and a free newspaper. Maybe as a humble student, I don't care for these perks, as I am constantly skint! Departure was from the runway between the two opposite cargo ramps and the terminals, not sure about the number. As we climbed out I was lucky to catch a glimpse of an Antonov AN72, pretty cool looking plane.
Once we had reached our cruising altitude, the man seated next to me left his seat and upgraded himself to Europe Select. Nobody seemed to notice or care too much either, especially me; I had just gained an extra seat! We were served the usual sandwich, a choice of either Turkey or Cheese, I took the turkey and had tea. The snack service on these flights is basic but fine, considering the flight time is little over 50 minutes. The usual descent into Leeds takes you over the centre of the city, however this time we were to land on runway 12, so our decent took us over the moors where the 'Golf Balls' are, the American radio listening facility from Cold War days. I was pretty disappointed not to see Elland Road, the home of my beloved LEEDS UNITED. Landing at Leeds never fails to disappoint as the airport is located on a pretty high hill, you'll appreciate this when approaching runway 12! Turbulence is very common and these little planes tend to rock about quite easily...FUN!!! We landed, and taxied to our gate, at Leeds, the only airlines that are allowed to use the jetways of which there are two, are the BMI flights to Heathrow (Airbus A319), KLM Cityhopper (usually Fokker 100s and sometimes 70s) and some Jet2 flights.
tThe layout of the airport is strange, as you walk towards passport control and descent to baggage reclaim, you pass the 'food court' where people watch you walk by. If you ever been to LBA I'm sure you'll appreciate what I am going on about, for the others, it gives you the feeling that you're a zoo attraction! FOREIGNERS!!! Passport control is swift, for British and European citizens, and baggage reclaim doesn't take too long...well it shouldn't for such a small airport.

In my opinion, the KLM service is excellent. I fly to Leeds several times a year on Jet2 or KLM and have found that sometimes it is cheaper to fly KLM. Jet2 is fine but the seat layout is terrible compared to KLM, well what do you expect? The Fokkers are lovely planes and very comfortable. I do miss the days when Leeds was served by Fokker 27s and 50s of AirUK, that was a while back. However the Fokkers have some problems, I remember reading on this website before that they recquire a lot of maintenance, this is true, my mother was flying from Leeds to Nairobi and onto George (South Africa) and her flight was delayed for quite sometime.

Well that was it, my first report! If any of you have any comments feel free to share them. I am going to South Africa for Christmas and am flying BA from AMS -- LHR -- JHB -- JRG (George), my 'hometown.' So that will make for an interesting report! Watch this space, I'll do my best to include pictures.
 
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RE: 1st Trip Report: AMS – LBA, KLM Cityhopper

Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:58 am

Welcome to A.net!  

Thank you for sharing your experience. Personally I agree with you about Europe Select, but apparently it is a success according to KL management. Probably not for the individual traveller, more for the company contracts (Phillips, Shell, ABN-AMRO etc etc).

Quoting Jet2Leeds (Thread starter):
sometimes it is cheaper to fly KLM

True, not always, but it's certainly smart to check the websites of the legacies like BA, AF, LH or Kl and not only LCCs, if you are looking for a good price. I was planning a trip to LON and BA was cheaper then EZY, HV AND FR (ex EIN).

[Edited 2006-12-05 19:09:07]
 
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RE: 1st Trip Report: AMS – LBA, KLM Cityhopper

Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:25 am

Nice report. I have travelled with cityhopper a couple times between NCL and AMS. They are Ok and it was nice to experience the F70 and F100
I completely agree with you with regards to Europe Select.
Last time I flew qith them I got row 2 which did give a little extra room but for a fllight of just over an hour, it wasn't really needed

Quoting SK601 (Reply 1):
True, not always, but it's certainly smart to check the websites of the legacies like BA, AF, LH or Kl and not only LCCs, if you are looking for a good price. I was planning a trip to LON and BA was cheaper then EZY, HV AND FR (ex EIN).

Your absolutely correct, BA have some really cheap fares out of LHR/LGW to a lot of cities in Europe
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RE: 1st Trip Report: AMS – LBA, KLM Cityhopper

Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:31 am

Interesting report, pictures would have been nicew but overall a pretty good first report. I've never flown inside Europe (always taken trains to get about in Europe) so this is a welcome read for me. I'm surprised that they served sandwhiches on such a short flight.
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RE: 1st Trip Report: AMS – LBA, KLM Cityhopper

Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:37 am

Welcome to A.net.

Nice trip-report; too bad you didn't include some pictures  Sad

Two minor notes, though:

1 - Flightnumber cannot be 1546 as this is used for inbound flights to AMS
2 - Correct code for Johannesburg is JNB and not JHB (which is Johor Baru)
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Jet2Leeds
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RE: 1st Trip Report: AMS – LBA, KLM Cityhopper

Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:44 am

MH017, you're right 1546 was the flight i took back, thanks for pointing that out,
thanks for JNB by the way!
 
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RE: 1st Trip Report: AMS – LBA, KLM Cityhopper

Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:05 am

Quoting Jet2Leeds (Thread starter):
feel free to give me some feedback

Very interesting! It would be nice to see some photos, so next time you go between LBA and AMS, take your camera!

Quoting Jet2Leeds (Thread starter):
as you walk towards passport control and descent to baggage reclaim, you pass the 'food court' where people watch you walk by

I was sitting drinking a cappuccino in the food court a while back, and all of a sudden my view of the airfield was blocked by a plane load of passengers who had just arrived from LHR!
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RE: 1st Trip Report: AMS – LBA, KLM Cityhopper

Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:32 am

Quoting Jet2Leeds (Thread starter):
however this time we were to land on runway 12

The runways at LBA are 32 (approach over the city) and 14 (approach over the moors).

Quoting Jet2Leeds (Thread starter):
where the 'Golf Balls' are, the American radio listening facility from Cold War days

Is is still very much in use. In fact it is one of the biggest spy bases in the world.

Quoting Jet2Leeds (Thread starter):
the only airlines that are allowed to use the jetways of which there are two, are the BMI flights to Heathrow (Airbus A319), KLM Cityhopper (usually Fokker 100s and sometimes 70s) and some Jet2 flights.

Not true. Some of the charter airlines use them too if they are available.

Quoting Jet2Leeds (Thread starter):
However the Fokkers have some problems, I remember reading on this website before that they recquire a lot of maintenance, this is true, my mother was flying from Leeds to Nairobi and onto George (South Africa) and her flight was delayed for quite sometime.

You sure an F100 has the range to operate those sectors ?  Wink

Not bad for a first attempt.

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RE: 1st Trip Report: AMS – LBA, KLM Cityhopper

Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:48 pm

Nice report, thanks.

The F100 is a nice little plane, though I've only managed 3 flights on them myself, still missing the F70 from the log book.

I'll look out for the xmas trip report.

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