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BA Non-rev: LHR-SEA In F (lots Of Pics).

Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:22 pm

Having been a tough year for all of us for many reasons, we decided to take a Christmas break, and after considering a number of places such as Toronto, New York, we finally came to an agreement on Seattle.
So, we booked the flights, fast forward 3 weeks, and we are packing.

Date: Tuesday 26th December 2006
Route: LHR-SEA
Airline: British Airways
Flight number: BA049
Aircraft: B777-236ER
Registration: G-VIIH
Seat: 02K (First)
Flight duration: approximately 9hrs 10mins.




We arrived at LHR around 11am, and while dad went an parked the car, we just did some bits and bobs in the terminal. Once dad came back, we proceeded to the staff travel area. There, once we had battled through the busy waiting area full of people, we got to the check-in, and waited, our bags were loaded weighed and had some tags put on them (which is always a good sign) before we got our tickets. We left the staff travel area, and I took a look at the tickets. First class window seat ! Both times I've written a trip report, we've got in first class, so expect more trip reports !

We dropped our bags off and went through security, which was at an ordinary pace, and once we were in the departures area, we just wondered around, getting some drinks and going to the book shop.
Finally, after what seemed an age, we got to the gate, caught a bus and got the aircraft. Looking from below, the 777 does look a magnificent aircraft, although I do still slightly prefer the 747.
Anyway, we went up the steps and were directed to our seats, in a, at the time, empty F cabin. I settled down in my seat, and took a look around the seat. One of the first things I noticed was that this aircraft had the old 'small screen' 12 channel Marconi IFE system, D'oh !
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My IFE screen.

The cabin crew quickly came round, offering pre flight drinks, and some more passengers came aboard.
Soon enough, the doors were closed, and we were pushed back from the stand.
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A look out of my window.

We taxied to the runway, which for take offs on that days at that time was 09R.
There was a normal size queue for the runway, and there were views of Terminal 5 works.
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T5 in the background
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BA 777 waiting.
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BA 767 rolling.
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AI 744.
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The airport was still fogged up, luckily my flight wasn't delayed due to fog.
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The runway.

The mighty 777 engines powered up, and we rolled forward, although I did notice that the take off didn't have the same 'push you back in your seat' type power, but the take off was short, so I'm guessing they didn't need to use lots of power.
We climbed up and out of the dull British weather, and into the sunshine above the clouds.
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Soon enough, the cabin crew got out of their seats, and came round with the menus and choices for the DVD player (which is used because there isn't a in-seat video player on this IFE system). This actually meant that I could watch a film and the moving map at the same time !
We headed North-west, over Manchester and out onto the Irish sea, at an altitude of 34,500ft.
I reclined my seat a little and took out my book, which was Geroge Orwell's '1984'. It's a good read for anyone with an interest in cold-war history, as you'll be able to understand it much better.
Along with that, I read the days 'Hearald Tribune' International edition newspaper. I also took my usual coke with ice for a drink.
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About an ours or 2 into the flight, lunch was, served, and there was a decent selection to choose from:

Lunch:

Starters-
Lobster, mango and pink grapefruit salad with honey and coriander dressing.

Roast Tomato and vegetable frittata with rocket leaves, basil and tomato dressing.
White bean and oregano soup with truffle oil and fresh herb croutons.
Fresh salad leaves with your choice of Roquefort cheese and pine nut dressing or spiced lemon and soy dressing.

Main-
Grilled fillet of beef with grilled marinated courgettes, foie gras crouton and Anna potatoes

Catch of the day-Please ask your crew for details of todays fresh fish selection served with your choice of watercress sauce or red pepper citrus coulis, seasonal vegetables and parsley potatoes.
Vineet Bhatia's chicken in green masala, green pea and cumin rice with stir-fried asparagus and enoki mushrooms
Main cource Greek salas with herd dressing

Dessert-
Michel roux's blancmange with roast pineapple

Warm treacle tart with Vanilla ice cream

Cheese plate-
Coastal Cheddar

Cashel Blue cheese
Tornegus cheese
A basket of fresh fruit

Snacks-
Bacon roll served with tomato ketchup/b]
[b]Penne pasta with your choice of char-grilled red pepper sauce or porcini mushrooms and parmesan cheese sauce served with garlic herb croute

Duchy of Cornwall biscuits
A selection of cheese and fruit

I had just plain Grilled fillet of beef with Anna potatoes and ice cream for dessert, as I knew that BA's portions were pretty generous.
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The meal ! I must say, BA do go the whole way on their food, the meat was cooked just right, and was very filling !

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The sun began to set to the North, and the aircraft climbed up to 36,000ft and the sky got darker, although the other side of the aircraft had a reasonable amount of light because it was facing southwards.
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Somewhere over Greenland.

I flicked through the IFE channels, nothing great was on, and so mostly listened to my MP3 player, read my book and the newspaper, as-well as trying to watch 'Garfield-a tail of two kitties' on the DVD player, but gave up because the sound was dodgy. Oh, and of-course, having a look every now and then at the moving map.

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The plane carried on over Greenland and Eastern Canada, and at about 1/2 way through the flight, a great thing happened.
The cabin crew member who was serving my side of the cabin, knew I had a strong interest in planes, and so when the first officer came out, invited me to talk to him ! I was pretty surprised at first, but the first officer was a great chap, and talked to me and my brother (who's training to be a pilot) about the aviation world, the flight and other things. A brief hello turned into a 30min conversation, but he was more than happy to talk, and he greatly impressed me in the fact that there are still flight crew who do things like this !
Once the conversation ended, me and my brother went back to our seats, and the plane climbed up to 38,000ft.
Somewhere between Baffin bay and Hudson strait, came the the most stunning scenery I've ever seen, snow covered mountains in the dim blue light, fantastic !
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About an hours or so later, the other first officer came out for a chat with me and my brother. He was a very interesting man, who seemed to love his job and aviation in general. This conversation carried on for an hours or so, and again, we covered just about everything ! I must say, the 2 first officers, and the great cabin crew really were stars, and this is why BA is the great airline it is !
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Possibly my favourite picture. No words needed.

The flight crew were using a spare seat in F as their crew rest, but there were only about 7 actually passengers, including us 4, so there were plenty seats free.
The sun began to rise as we got more westerly and got near the America-Canada border.
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The huge 777 GE90 engines.

About and hour and a half from landing, afternoon tea was served with a selection of:
Afternoon tea
Snacks-
A selection of sandwiches featuring
smoked salmon with black pepper
Chunky egg and spinach
Coronation Chicken
Roast vegetables and cream cheese

OR
Salmon, leek and mushroom quiche

Patisserie-
Plain or fruit scones served with warm clotted cream and strawberry jam

Farmhouse fruit cake, rhubarb custard tart with nutmeg and macaroon

I had the warm scones, which were just delicious ! I ate it up pretty quickly, and the cabin crew member on my side, offered me another plate....well, how could I refuse !?  Wink Just another example of the crew going out of their way to make my flight enjoyable, and trust me, it was more than enjoyable.
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A second serving of scones sir ?

We descended past the border, and started our decent into Seattle.
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We had a bumpy approach, but landed smoothly enough at SEA-TAC about 16:00 local time.
The aircraft proceeded to the stand, where I took up the first officers offer of visiting the flight-deck. Like I would refuse !
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Some photos of the 777 flightdeck. Sorry for the blurriness.

There, I had an nice chat with the captain and good some flight info in the form of routing's ,charts etc on paper for that flight, what more could have asked for ?
We said good bye to the crew and made our way to immigration.
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Well, in conclusion:
The crew were just amazing, they were hospitable, and treated a non-rev just like a commercial passenger.

Cabin crew: 10/10
flight-crew: 10/10
Seat: 9/10 (still top notch, but some improvements could happen)
Food: 9/10
Overall: 10/10

Thank you to the flight-crew, cabin crew, the powers that let us ly in F and, because I don't think they get enough recognition, a big thanks to the great guys at BA engineering.

And thank you to you for reading !
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RE: BA Non-rev: LHR-SEA In F (lots Of Pics).

Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:34 pm

Perfect trip, perfect report.
Your BA crew seemd to be fantastic.
Will you post a return trip or not?

regards: DALelite
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RE: BA Non-rev: LHR-SEA In F (lots Of Pics).

Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:47 pm

You are so lucky to get First again. I travel non-rev and have only had First once in 5 years.

Good trip report and cool pics. It was nice of the FO's to speak to you.
PS Is your Dad a pilot?

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RE: BA Non-rev: LHR-SEA In F (lots Of Pics).

Sun Jan 07, 2007 2:40 am

Very good Trip Report
Nice Pictures
 
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RE: BA Non-rev: LHR-SEA In F (lots Of Pics).

Sun Jan 07, 2007 2:53 am

Excellent trip report! Thanks for including the menu details and photos of the food - it all sounded magnificent!
I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
 
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RE: BA Non-rev: LHR-SEA In F (lots Of Pics).

Sun Jan 07, 2007 4:00 am

Great report, thank you for sharing. I was actually at the Water Tower on Boxing Day and saw you come over. Must say, I have been very dissappointed at the 777 instead of the 747. We usually get 5 or so 747s, but now, we are lucky to get two. Does anyone know if/when BA will switch back? You are a very lucky guy to ride first class. Never, ever been out of cattle class, just exit rows. Thank you again for sharing.
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Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:24 am

Nice one again Alistair, those GE-90's are amazing engines!

Shame those tiny screens are staying,

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RE: BA Non-rev: LHR-SEA In F (lots Of Pics).

Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:34 am

What exactly was the flight schedule? I am kind of confused at a flight that is only 9 hours in length that has all this sunset, sunrise, and landing at 4 PM. I am guessing something like 4 PM to 4 PM, but that doesn't fit.
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RE: BA Non-rev: LHR-SEA In F (lots Of Pics).

Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:58 am

Some very nice pictures there - especially the rear view of te wing and engine.
 
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RE: BA Non-rev: LHR-SEA In F (lots Of Pics).

Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:55 am

Firstly, thanks for all your kind comments, I appreciate them  Smile

Quoting DALelite (Reply 1):
Will you post a return trip or not?

If people want me to, then sure ! The return has less pictures because of it being a night flight though.

Quoting Sketty222 (Reply 2):
PS Is your Dad a pilot?

Sadly (and in someways luckily) he wasn't. He was an engineering manager over at TBC.

Quoting Thepilot (Reply 5):
Does anyone know if/when BA will switch back?

Yep, they switched back to a 744 on BA049 (LHR-SEA) and BA048 (SEA-LHR) on January 1st according to the timetable. The second daily flight (when it operates) is still a 777 though.

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 7):
What exactly was the flight schedule?

I'm not 100% sure about my flight, but the scheduled times are:
Departure: 14:05
Arrival: 15:50
Flight time: 9hrs 45mins

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Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:04 am

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 9):
If people want me to, then sure ! The return has less pictures because of it being a night flight though.

well then, i am looking forward to your return report!

greetzz: DALelite
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RE: BA Non-rev: LHR-SEA In F (lots Of Pics).

Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:14 am

I am glad for you to travel F but not for the other passengers paying for it. Staff should never fly F!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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RE: BA Non-rev: LHR-SEA In F (lots Of Pics).

Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:51 am

Wow, I'm just blown away!  Wow!  Wow!  Wow! The whole tr was spectacular!
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RE: BA Non-rev: LHR-SEA In F (lots Of Pics).

Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:23 pm

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 11):
I am glad for you to travel F but not for the other passengers paying for it. Staff should never fly F!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Most airlines do not even allow travel in F. But does it matter? It would have been a seat gone empty anyway. Staff are just filling it. How many people do you think would be working for the airlines if they knew they didn't get F travel. Instead they get layoffs, pay cuts, and hard labor conditions. It's just a big perk that helps keep employees going.

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 9):
I'm not 100% sure about my flight, but the scheduled times are:
Departure: 14:05
Arrival: 15:50
Flight time: 9hrs 45mins

That doesn't fit right though. London to Seattle is +8 hours correct? Well, you should have landed at 23:50 London time. Add 8 hours and what do you get? 7:50. It doesn't add up. What's the catch?
The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
 
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RE: BA Non-rev: LHR-SEA In F (lots Of Pics).

Sun Jan 07, 2007 3:07 pm

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 13):
Well, you should have landed at 23:50 London time. Add 8 hours and what do you get? 7:50. It doesn't add up. What's the catch?

Subtract 8 hours -- it's earlier in Seattle. 23:50 London time is 15:50 out here.

The darkness they saw was from flying very far north, where the sun sets by 1400 which is about local time for the whole flight. Those Europe to west coast flights in the middle of winter are pretty eerie that way.
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Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:56 pm

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 13):

Most airlines do not even have F class any more so i do not think that is any problem for the airlines OR the employes.
 
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RE: BA Non-rev: LHR-SEA In F (lots Of Pics).

Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:12 pm

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 11):
I am glad for you to travel F but not for the other passengers paying for it. Staff should never fly F!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dude- Staff travel is an industry privilege. If staff are seated in the Premium cabins, be assured that is after op-ups etc etc. If Y is full, J/F has seats, thats where you go. Deal with it.
 
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Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:02 am

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 11):
I am glad for you to travel F but not for the other passengers paying for it. Staff should never fly F!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Staff should always get First if it available. All airlines should fill empty seats from the front of the plane first with their staff members.
It is a privilege that should always be bestowed on all hard working staff!
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RE: BA Non-rev: LHR-SEA In F (lots Of Pics).

Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:45 am

Good Trip report wrigh

Im hope to do a trip report when me and the wife go to Rome on the 19th Feb 07,for 5 days.


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RE: BA Non-rev: LHR-SEA In F (lots Of Pics).

Mon Jan 08, 2007 3:14 am

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 15):
Most airlines do not even have F class any more so i do not think that is any problem for the airlines OR the employes.

Specifically, Delta offers F class on all domestic flights.

Quoting 3201 (Reply 14):
Subtract 8 hours -- it's earlier in Seattle. 23:50 London time is 15:50 out here.

The darkness they saw was from flying very far north, where the sun sets by 1400 which is about local time for the whole flight. Those Europe to west coast flights in the middle of winter are pretty eerie that way.

Oh I see. I guess I was just kind of confused with the sunrises, sunsets, etc. I also messed up on the math a little there as well. Only because I was confused!
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Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:01 am

I stil envy your flights soooooo much

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Thread starter):
The meal ! I must say, BA do go the whole way on their food, the meat was cooked just right, and was very filling

BA foood is superb. I was incredibly impressed with my cattle class Citiexpress meal that I had in 2005.

Another great report Alistair, you are one lucky enthusiast
 
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RE: BA Non-rev: LHR-SEA In F (lots Of Pics).

Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:33 am

When you say non-rev, what exactly do you mean? Were you flying on frequent-flyer miles? Or is someone in your family a British Airways employee, and hence flying for free? In the latter case, I would question the policy of giving employees and their family members free first class travel; it would seem to make much more sense to give free upgrades to paying customers in lower classes (perhaps winning customer affection).
 
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Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:53 am

Quoting Sketty222 (Reply 17):

Why not move paying passengers instead from Y to C or F?
That is more important than airline employes.
 
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Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:55 am

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 19):

The world is big my friend!
It is better to put paying passengers from Y in F in your example than a airline employe.
 
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Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:56 am

Quoting VC10DC10 (Reply 21):

I agree 100 %. Customers first.
 
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Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:00 am

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 23):

It is better to put paying passengers from Y in F in your example than a airline employe.

Couldn't agree with you more. Airlines should make empty seats in Y for their employees by giving free upgrades to their loyal, paying customers.
 
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Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:54 am

Amazing trip report

Always a good read  Smile

To Bofredrik and VC10DC10. Its industry standard when it comes to staff travel.
Always has been and allways will be. If its available, and other passengers have been moved, staff get W/J/F etc depending on there entitlement.
Airline staff work hard, and dont get alot of good things for it. Pay lousy, working conditions and hours lousy etc, this is a perk EVERY airline employee looks forward to getting. I myself managed to get Club going to YYZ, and loved it. Got to try out the service, see the staff in action first hand. I have also travelled in Y, and never complained. Staff dont, if its Y, its Y, it its J or F WOOHOO, they love there jobs even more.

A perk is a perk. What jobs do you do, what perks do you get, can we complain about them, saying you should not get it, it should go to someone else

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Mon Jan 08, 2007 6:07 am

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 11):
I am glad for you to travel F but not for the other passengers paying for it. Staff should never fly F!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't have a problem with high-ranking staff flying F non-rev. It's when they bring their second cousins twice removed and screaming toddlers into the cabin when things become antsy.
 
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Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:33 am

Quoting Jyatlantic (Reply 27):
I don't have a problem with high-ranking staff flying F non-rev. It's when they bring their second cousins twice removed and screaming toddlers into the cabin when things become antsy.

I too can't stand when non-revs bring annoying children in F. But on DL, you must be of at least 8 years of age and only your immediate family gets the priviliges.

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 23):
The world is big my friend!
It is better to put paying passengers from Y in F in your example than a airline employe.

Like I said in my previous post, airlines would have a LOT of trouble employing people if they knew they didn't get free F travel and, instead, get pay cuts, and the threat of layoffs... It's the only reason my mother entered the industry.
The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
 
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Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:49 am

Quoting Trekster (Reply 26):
I have also travelled in Y, and never complained. Staff dont, if its Y, its Y,

Whilst one must never complain, there's no rule about breaking down in tears!
 
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Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:54 am

Again, thanks for your comments, makes it worth while  Smile

Quoting VC10DC10 (Reply 21):
When you say non-rev, what exactly do you mean? Were you flying on frequent-flyer miles? Or is someone in your family a British Airways employee, and hence flying for free?

I mean non-rev as in my dad worked for BA. The ticket wasn't free if you're wondering, no ticket is at BA.

On this subject of non-revs flying in F. At BA, first class priority isn't a standard thing, it's for the higher up staff (managers, captains etc), and even then, only after a long spout of service with BA) and the flight was pretty empty, It couldn't have been more than 1/2 full overall.
BA will only upgrade executive club members to F, and most likely only gold members (could be wrong), so perhaps there weren't any TO upgrade ?
And anyway, after over 36yrs non-stop service with the airline, wouldn't you expect some good privileges ?
We simply filled up empty seats and ate food and drank drink that would have gone to waste, there were plenty spare seats, and we always understand that the fare paying passenger comes first.
As Trekster says, it's one of the few good privileges left at BA.

Quoting VC10DC10 (Reply 21):
it would seem to make much more sense to give free upgrades to paying customers in lower classes (perhaps winning customer affection).

If a NON-frequent flyer passenger payed for club, they get club, why should BA just upgrade them other than for the fact they might fly BA again? and why that passenger ?, I bet the other 100 people on the plane would love a seat in F too, they don't earn any money out of this. If they want F, they pay for F, genraly, they're in J because they can't afford F (I know this isn't always the case, but I'm genralising).

Quoting Trekster (Reply 26):
Amazing trip report

Always a good read

Thanks  Smile

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RE: BA Non-rev: LHR-SEA In F (lots Of Pics).

Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:55 am

Great report. BA F class sounds great. Hope they are the same in cattle class though when I fly them  Wink
 
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RE: BA Non-rev: LHR-SEA In F (lots Of Pics).

Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:44 am

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 28):
I too can't stand when non-revs bring annoying children in F. But on DL, you must be of at least 8 years of age and only your immediate family gets the privileges.

Same at BA, only immediate family, and only 12 and overs at BA for F.

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 28):
Like I said in my previous post, airlines would have a LOT of trouble employing people if they knew they didn't get free F travel and, instead, get pay cuts, and the threat of layoffs... It's the only reason my mother entered the industry.

Yep, every industry has its benefits, cheap air travel happens to be the aviation one.

Quoting Shamrock_747 (Reply 29):
there's no rule about breaking down in tears!

Hehe, would look kind of weird tho  Silly

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RE: BA Non-rev: LHR-SEA In F (lots Of Pics).

Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:31 am

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 30):

If a NON-frequent flyer passenger payed for club, they get club, why should BA just upgrade them other than for the fact they might fly BA again? and why that passenger ?, I bet the other 100 people on the plane would love a seat in F too, they don't earn any money out of this. If they want F, they pay for F, genraly, they're in J because they can't afford F (I know this isn't always the case, but I'm genralising).

Exactly. Customers get what they pay for, and to upgrade willy nilly is inconsistent and discriminates against the other passengers who would kill to be the lucky one to get the free bump up. If you were buying a new Toyota, would you expect the dealer to upgrade you to a Lexus just because there was a spare one on the forecourt?

One more thing I would like to add is that no matter what class ticket British Airways passengers buy, they are offered excellent value for money with good food, good entertainment, attentive and considerate service, and above all, consistency in the aim to meet all customers expectations. If they pay for First, they can expect to be pleased. If they pay for World Traveller, they too can expect to be pleased.

That is why I am very proud to work for them.
 
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RE: BA Non-rev: LHR-SEA In F (lots Of Pics).

Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:22 am

a good trip report. I liked the photos of the flight deck
 
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RE: BA Non-rev: LHR-SEA In F (lots Of Pics).

Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:53 am

My return trip report is now here BA Non-rev: SEA-LHR In F (with Pics) (by Wrighbrothers Jan 21 2007 in Trip Reports)

Quoting AAden (Reply 34):
a good trip report. I liked the photos of the flight deck

Why thank you  Smile

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RE: BA Non-rev: LHR-SEA In F (lots Of Pics).

Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:29 am

Great report, thanks.

Quoting Sketty222 (Reply 17):
Staff should always get First if it available. All airlines should fill empty seats from the front of the plane first with their staff members.
It is a privilege that should always be bestowed on all hard working staff!

-True, however I feel Gold & Silver's (if travelling) should be upgraded first as a way to show appreciation for their frequent business.

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RE: BA Non-rev: LHR-SEA In F (lots Of Pics).

Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:44 am

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 4):
Excellent trip report! Thanks for including the menu details and photos of the food - it all sounded magnificent!

That meal looks delicious.  yummy 

Quoting Lentini2001 (Reply 8):
Some very nice pictures there - especially the rear view of te wing and engine.

The photo's of the "somewhere over Greenland" and of the a/c engine, both in dark blue were excellent. Was the OAT displayed in the cabin? It must have been freezing out there.  cold 

Quoting Express1 (Reply 18):
Im hope to do a trip report when me and the wife go to Rome on the 19th Feb 07,for 5 days.

I look forward to reading it.  Smile Have a great time there  bigthumbsup 

Quoting BA787 (Reply 20):
Another great report Alistair, you are one lucky enthusiast

Agreed. Alstair seems to be a fine young lad who appreciates what he has.  yes 

Quoting Trekster (Reply 26):
To Bofredrik and VC10DC10. Its industry standard when it comes to staff travel.
Always has been and allways will be. If its available, and other passengers have been moved, staff get W/J/F etc depending on there entitlement.
Airline staff work hard, and dont get alot of good things for it. Pay lousy, working conditions and hours lousy etc, this is a perk EVERY airline employee looks forward to getting. I myself managed to get Club going to YYZ, and loved it. Got to try out the service, see the staff in action first hand. I have also travelled in Y, and never complained. Staff dont, if its Y, its Y, it its J or F WOOHOO, they love there jobs even more.

A perk is a perk. What jobs do you do, what perks do you get, can we complain about them, saying you should not get it, it should go to someone else

rant over

Agreed. Let's not spoil this gentleman's trip, please.

Fine trip report. I shall now read the "other one".

Good Day  Smile

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RE: BA Non-rev: LHR-SEA In F (lots Of Pics).

Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:11 am

Thanks for the praise Big grin

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 36):
True, however I feel Gold & Silver's (if travelling) should be upgraded first as a way to show appreciation for their frequent business.

Ofcourse, no staff (atleast not many) depute that.

Quoting NWOrientDC10 (Reply 37):
Was the OAT displayed in the cabin? It must have been freezing out there.

Yep, they do display the outside temperature, minus 50C I think it was !!

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RE: BA Non-rev: LHR-SEA In F (lots Of Pics).

Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:46 pm

I can't see a single picture!

What's happening?
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RE: BA Non-rev: LHR-SEA In F (lots Of Pics).

Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:15 pm

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 39):
I can't see a single picture!

What's happening?

dang people clicked on them too much, so photobucket came here and removed them since they took up too much bandwidth  Sad
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RE: BA Non-rev: LHR-SEA In F (lots Of Pics).

Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:15 am

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 39):
can't see a single picture!

What's happening?

As Garri767 said, I've exceeded my bandwidth for this month, so unfortunately, this happens. My bandwidth gets re-set on the 17th, so they'll be back then, sorry  Smile

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