Olympus69
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April 5/07 1st AC 77W Flight YYZ-YUL-YYZ

Fri Apr 06, 2007 4:06 am

I had been considering this flight for 2 or days, but didn't commit myself until C-FITL, fin 731 was safely on the ground in YYZ late on the previous evening. By then I figured that it was safe enough to book a Tango seat with the no change, no cancellation option. I got a pretty good price for the round trip - $241.22. The only drawback was the departure time from YYZ - 07:00, meaning getting up at 5:30.

I had asked for aisle seats (booking online) so that I could get up to take pictures easily. They gave me window seats - 50A and 34K and I decided it wasn't worth making a fuss about it..  Smile

I got lost in the parking garage at T1 and the plane was at gate 141, right at the end of pier E, so everyone had boarded when I got there. I had emptied my pockets before going through security, and there were virtually no line-ups at 06:30 so there was no hold-up there. However, there was some kind of security problem which delayed us, and Rapidair flight AC 400 pushed back nearly 15 minutes late.

There was more delay to come. The plane had to be de-iced and it was early morning rush hour for departures. Consequently it was about 08:00 when we turned on to 24R, one hour before we were due to push back at YUL for the return flight. It was almost 09:00 when we reached the gate at YUL.

The crew had announced that this was the inaugural flight of a new plane type for AC, and that we were the first passengers to sit in its seats. I was a bit disappointed that there were no balloons or party hats  Smile.

The return flight - AC 405 was much fuller. I would guess at a 70-75% LF. They didn't gain any time back during the turnaround. In fact were were delayed even more because the baggage of a no-show passenger had to b located and removed. This meant that we were about an hour late by the time we pushed back when we arrived at T1 after a rather bumpy landing on YYZ's Runway 23

My impressions of the experience? Spending so much time on the ground spoiled it for me a little, and I found that the seats were not completely satisfactory. Legroom was adequate for my 6 foot frame, but I couldn't get really comfortable. I found that I had to tilt my head back to use the headrest, and that was uncomfortable for my neck.The cabin crew were unfailingly cheerful and helpful, but the food was skimpy- Corn Chips one way and a couple of cookies the other. With coffee, tea, juice, and soft drinks.

The IFE was good except that not all the features were working - the Map feature for example. There are several channels of satellite radio. The sound volume could be higher. The decor - mostly blue and grey, can be described as restful, which is the way I like it

John.

I only took photos out of the window. If any are good I'll post them.
 
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RE: April 5/07 1st AC 77W Flight YYZ-YUL-YYZ

Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:24 am

I was going to do that flight as well but i was worried that AC would change the A/C type at the last minute as it had happend to me before anyways sound like you had an ok trip must of felt powerful when those huge GE-90-115B's got up to full throttle
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RE: April 5/07 1st AC 77W Flight YYZ-YUL-YYZ

Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:45 am

The lack of fanfare seems kind of dissapointing, especially considering all the recent media coverage (the Globe and Star have both had quite a few articles on AC and the 777 in the past weeks), one would have thought that Air Canada would play it up a little, just for the marketing benefit. I guess not.
And with regards to the interiors, were the seats comfortable in general other than the headrests? I've heard good things about the new style of seats in Y, but I haven't had a chance to try them yet. I'm sure it's an improvement over the "wicker-basket chairs" that AC has in their 'ole 767s though, no?
 
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RE: April 5/07 1st AC 77W Flight YYZ-YUL-YYZ

Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:20 pm

I was on that flight to as a non-rev..... First impression stepping on the aircraft, I couldn't believe how huge it was. The standup bar in J looked nice. Also got to see the lav's with the windows up front.

One complaint, I couldn't believe how LOUD the engine was when it was idling, but it seemed to get quieter when it started up.

Came back on a different flight, 320 aircraft which was supposed to leave later than the 777 flight but ironically we made it first, and we were able to watch it land next to us. The flight deck crew made a point of mentioning to the pax that the 777 would be landing on the left side of the a/c.

The map features and news as well as safety video don't work on any of the Thales systems on the AC fleet, but that is supposed to change at some point in the future when they get the software upgrade.
 
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RE: April 5/07 1st AC 77W Flight YYZ-YUL-YYZ

Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:56 am

Quoting Pacifica (Reply 2):
The lack of fanfare seems kind of disappointing, especially considering all the recent media coverage (the Globe and Star have both had quite a few articles on AC and the 777 in the past weeks), one would have thought that Air Canada would play it up a little, just for the marketing benefit. I guess not.
And with regards to the interiors, were the seats comfortable in general other than the headrests? I've heard good things about the new style of seats in Y, but I haven't had a chance to try them yet. I'm sure it's an improvement over the "wicker-basket chairs" that AC has in their 'ole 767s though, no?

When they talked about the 77W I don't think they even named it as a 777. The seats are OK but I haven't flown on anything for 2.5 years - an AC 744 was my last flight, so I can't really compare.

Quoting ACFA (Reply 3):
I was on that flight to as a non-rev..... First impression stepping on the aircraft, I couldn't believe how huge it was. The standup bar in J looked nice. Also got to see the lav's with the windows up front.

One complaint, I couldn't believe how LOUD the engine was when it was idling, but it seemed to get quieter when it started up.

I can't say that I noticed the noise - same excuse as above.
It sure is looooong! They need moving walkways on that thing. There was a woman with a child walking down the other aisle. Every 2 minutes the kid kept asking, "Are we there yet."  Smile
 
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RE: April 5/07 1st AC 77W Flight YYZ-YUL-YYZ

Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:34 am

Enjoyed your report.

I'm happy to learn that I'm not the only person to get lost in the T1 parking garage.
 
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RE: April 5/07 1st AC 77W Flight YYZ-YUL-YYZ

Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:57 am

Quoting Olympus69 (Thread starter):
The crew had announced that this was the inaugural flight of a new plane type for AC, and that we were the first passengers to sit in its seats. I was a bit disappointed that there were no balloons or party hats .

The Rapidair flights were an opportunity for the pilots to get some hands on experience. The official inaugural flight was AC856 YYZ/LHR on April 6th--the fanfare was happening on that flight.

Quoting Olympus69 (Thread starter):
but the food was skimpy- Corn Chips

Which is a bag of corn chips more than most North American airlines offer on a 55 minute flight.
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