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E190 And More: HEL-MAN-DUB-HEL On AY & FR (pics)

Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:52 pm

Hi guys,

I wanted to make a short weekend trip in Europe during my summer holidays in July and was invited to visit an old friend in Dublin. Finnair offered tempting prices, but their early morning departure didn't fit to my plans. Ryanair flies to DUB from Tampere, some 200 km north of Helsinki, but their price wasn't right for that weekend. So, I did some research work and noticed I could fly later on the same day via Manchester, on Finnair and Ryanair, burning more time but not much more money - and I would have a chance to fly on Embraer-190 for the first time. My return flight DUB-HEL would be non stop.

Everything started here, from my neighbourhood in southern Helsinki:
Home: Helsinki Ruoholahti


Fri 13 July '07
HEL 16:00 - MAN 16:55
AY 937
Embraer-190
Seat 17F


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I did the check-in on line at home, but I arrived at Helsinki-Vantaa early, I hate to rush. HEL can be very crowded these days, but luckily it wasn't too bad this time. I got through the security very quickly, I had only a back pack with me - and I had been careful not to carry too much liquids in there. I had time to get a coffee and enjoy the airport atmosphere, it feels always as good, time after time. As usually at HEL, lot of Asian & European transit passengers wandering back and forth, especially in the non-Schengen area, where my gate also was. The next long hauls, to Guangzhau (Canton) and Hong Kong, would depart soon after my flight.

HEL non-Schengen area, steel & wood...:

HEL Non-Schengen Terminal


Helsinki-Vantaa - very woody


I had a bus transfer to the a/c, that will be more and more common at HEL, until they get more space & gates in 2009. This time I didn't mind actually, I had a chance to do some plane spotting.

Finnair B757-200

AY B752 at HEL


My bird, a shiny new E190:

AY E190 OH-LKH HEL-MAN

AY E190 OH-LKH HEL-MAN


The boarding was rather slow, I was the last passenger to get in. The E190 cabin looked bigger than I had expected and of course everything was new and fresh, this plane was just few months old baby. The a/c has 100 seats, a tiny C-class section in the front, similar seats though. The seat pitch is AY's regular "32 in Y class, with 2+2 seating. I got two seats for my own use, that flight was perhaps 80 per cent full. Two F/A's on board.
After the take of it took perhaps half an hour before the meal service started. I had pre-ordered vegetarian meal, just for a change - but it was bad idea, the cold portion in a board box didn't look tempting... Luckily the guy on the other side, coming from Mumbai I learnt, didn't get his Hindu meal and he was ready to shift. The chicken salad I got was really nice, better than those tasteless warm meals I have often got on AY flights before. Only cold meals are served in Y on AY Embraers, but it seems not a bad thing at all.
Beer & wine were served free, I got an Australian red wine (well, the only choice actually) and a sparkling wine.
Coffee and tea were served soon also, AY has good coffee, coming from the Robert's Coffee Company.
The F/A serving me was really friendly, when I told her how nice the salad was, he asked if I wanted an extra portion - I sure did.

AY 937 HEL-MAN E190

AY Chicken Salad



After three hours flight we arrived at MAN. Next four hours were not that comfortable: MAN was very crowded that evening, packed with tired passengers, with screaming kids... and my Ryanair flight was late, a lot.
Well, I though I could handle one more drink and of course, plenty of time for plane spotting:

MAN airport July 07 - First Choise

Man airport July 07 - Hapag-Lloyd Express

MAN airport July 07 - City Airline

MAN airport July 07 - Euro Manx


Fri 13 July '07
MAN 19:30 (21.15) - DUB 20:30 (22:15)
FR 557
B737-800
Seat 17F


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After killing extra 100 minutes at MAN, the FR 557 was finally ready for boarding. A self-printed priority boarding pass in my hand I was among the first to get in, though I first had to make a short run in rain, no passenger bridge available.
I got an exit row seat, so the legroom was fine. The cabin had seen better days - but the cabin crew looked VERY young, perhaps the youngest I had ever seen anywhere. Or is it just me getting old?
The guy sitting next to me really didn't want to understand why he couldn't keep his back under the exit seat, the F/A had to explain the facts long and hard....
The short and smooth one hour flight was soon over. If MAN was busy, so was still DUB, the very temporary-looking Ryanair-pier seemed like a busy bus station. My patient friend was still there waiting for me and drove me to the city of Dublin:

Central Dublin- The millenium monument

Dublin city center - The millenium monument

Dublin colours

Dublin colours

A Dublin sign - In Irish and English


After a great weekend in one of my favourite cities, with always so friendly Irish, it was time to take the flight back to HEL. Once again I arrived early at the airport, I was prepared for queues but everything was really quick, even the security check. I had done the check-in on line but here I still had to pick the 'real' boarding pass from the desk.
It seems also DUB needs more space, not the most comfortable airport at the moment, but the new terminal is coming. I found a nice self-service restaurant and a delicious snack kept me busy for an hour or so: latte and bread filled with chicken breast, brie and cranberry jam. Yummy!
I had planned to buy some whisky at the airport, but the prices were quite high - even for a Finn. Ireland has become an expensive country, I learnt that now it's officially the most expensive country in EU, Denmark and Finland coming behind.
Some views at DUB:

DUB airport July 07 - A busy corner

DUB airport July 07 - Aer Lingus



Mon 16 July '07
DUB 18:15 - HEL 23:10
AY 886
A319
Seat 10F


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A familiar looking Airbus was ready for boarding in time, no delays. This time a passenger bridge was available, which was nice, the weather was rather rainy. Newspapers (mainly Finnish) were available before entering the a/c, and a senior F/A was welcoming the passengers.
AY 319's still have the older 'fat' seats, rest of the narrowbody Airbuses have got the new slim Recaro-seats. Actually I haven't noticed any huge difference, the Recaro's just look harder. All AY's Airbuses have nose cameras, it makes the take off's always more exiting.
This time I kept my veg meal, not great but ok, the best part of the meal was the free sparkling wine....

AY veg meal DUB-HEL - free sparkling wine included


The legroom was fine, similar to what I had on E190:

AY A319 Seating


Shopping on board... I had bought the MD-11 "Santa" model earlier:

AY shopping on E190 HEL-MAN


The rest of the 3h flight went smoothly, I was too tired to read so just slept and woke just before landing at quiet HEL.
Overall I had a really nice weekend trip, Dublin was great as always and I was happy with the flights, even with the delayed FR 557. Especially the E190 was a pleasant surprise, I didn't expect it to be that comfortable experience.

[Edited 2007-07-31 06:01:31]

[Edited 2007-07-31 06:24:14]
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RE: E190 And More: HEL-MAN-DUB-HEL On AY & FR (pics)

Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:58 pm

Very good report and pictures!!! The E190 and B757 sure look sharp in that livery, especially with the winglets!
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Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:34 pm

Great report.

I've spent much time in HEL and DUB so this was nice to read.

You are right about the "temporary" feeling at DUB. HEL is IMO a stunningly well designed airport, I'm a big fan.
 
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Tue Jul 31, 2007 5:57 pm

Nice report! I was also planning a trip on AY E190, when it was operating the first time to AMS, but I couldn't go as I had to pickup my parents who came back from holidays that same day  Sad Anyway, also after reading your report, I'm still thinking of doing this trip myself.
HEL looks a great modern airport. Good Scandinavian design there  Smile

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Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:24 am

WOW AY looks great . Glad you liked Dublin. Have to fly AY and buy those aircraft models especially that E Jet. Looks brilliant.

Thanks for the great TR and pics

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Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:39 am

Thanks for the comments!

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 3):
Nice report! I was also planning a trip on AY E190, when it was operating the first time to AMS, but I couldn't go as I had to pickup my parents who came back from holidays that same day Anyway, also after reading your report, I'm still thinking of doing this trip myself.
HEL looks a great modern airport. Good Scandinavian design there

Cheers,
Eric

They are receiving 10+10? E170/190's together, so more chances to fly on E190  Wink

Quoting OA260 (Reply 4):
WOW AY looks great . Glad you liked Dublin. Have to fly AY and buy those aircraft models especially that E Jet. Looks brilliant.

Thanks for the great TR and pics

OA260

Dublin and Ireland generally is one of my favourite places.
Yes, a/c models are cool  Wink My AY MD-11 "Santa":

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Wed Aug 01, 2007 5:54 am

Very cool.. I loved the pics of Dublin..
I have to go to Ireland soon, it is one of the countries that I want to visit the most!!

Great report.. Thanks!!
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Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:00 am

Great TR, thanks for the informative report and the nice pics, especially of Helsinki and Finnair...and of course here in Dublin. Would love to try AY sometimes!

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Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:11 pm

Good TR! Thanks for sharing.

Quoting Andaman (Thread starter):
Ireland has become an expensive country, I learnt that now it's officially the most expensive country in EU, Denmark and Finland coming behind.

ah, thats nothing, n00bs  Silly
 
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Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:16 pm

Very good TR with good pics. Really like AYs livery.
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Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:49 am

Thanks for the comments!

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 8):

ah, thats nothing, n00bs

Please join EU so Finland would feel less expensive..  Wink

Quoting B747forever (Reply 9):
Really like AYs livery.

AY livery looks good on Embraer I think.
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Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:02 pm

Interesting read Andaman and some nice pics. Particularly good to read about the E190, as I missed out on this on my Finnair trip in May.

I'm intrigued by the inflight catalogue - are the panda bears a new addition? I bought one of the white finnair bears but think the pandas are cute too! You see, most of you collect model aircraft.....but I go for avaiation bears......women, eh?

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Sat Aug 04, 2007 1:28 am

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 11):


I'm intrigued by the inflight catalogue - are the panda bears a new addition? I bought one of the white finnair bears but think the pandas are cute too! You see, most of you collect model aircraft.....but I go for avaiation bears......women, eh?

Greetings
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Hi Infodesk,

haven't seen Panda-bears for sale before on AY, looked cute - for a guy too  Wink
Btw, forgot to mention earlier, welcome to my "Respected".
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Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:07 pm

I'm going to make enquiries here at Zürich and see if I can get my hands on one......

Quoting Andaman (Reply 12):
welcome to my "Respected".

Kiitos paljon!  Smile
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Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:46 pm

A most enjoyable read there, plenty of nice pictures too!

I'd not realised AY were using the 190 on the MAN route, interesting to know as it's missing from my flight log.

HEL is a superb little airport, I love all the wood, give's a nice warm feeling.

Nice to see AY have kept the blue fabric scheme for the 190's seats, I'm a real fan of the colours.

Many thanks.

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Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:22 am

Thanks for all the comments!

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 14):


I'd not realised AY were using the 190 on the MAN route
Mark

According to their timetable, Embraers are used on the MAN route nowadays, it seems E190 usually .
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Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:56 pm

Nice trip report!

Quoting Andaman (Thread starter):
this plane was just few months old baby.

Yes. OH-LKH is AY's newest aircraft, delivered in the end of June.

Quoting Andaman (Reply 5):
10+10? E170/190's together

Yes.
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Sat Aug 25, 2007 12:28 am

Very nice report and pics. This is the first I have seen of the ERJ-190 in Finnair colours. I have seen the ERJ-170s at MAN a lot but so it is interesting to know that the '190 is becoming the norm now.

I too love Dublin. I left there a week before you but would go back anytime. The Guinness outside Ireland just isn't worth drinking.

Many thanks for sharing this report with us.
 
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Sat Aug 25, 2007 1:52 am

Really interesting report, thanks for sharing. AY's E170 and A319 are part of my trip to Japan in October, so I know better now about what to expect on the Euro legs.


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Sat Aug 25, 2007 6:51 am

Thanks for the comments!

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 17):
Very nice report and pics. This is the first I have seen of the ERJ-190 in Finnair colours. I have seen the ERJ-170s at MAN a lot but so it is interesting to know that the '190 is becoming the norm now.

I too love Dublin. I left there a week before you but would go back anytime. The Guinness outside Ireland just isn't worth drinking.

Many thanks for sharing this report with us.

Personally happy there will be many more E190s joining AY's fleet, I have become an EJet fan, to my own surprise!
Yes Guinness works best in Ireland - though haven't had any major problems with lager either  Wink
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Sat Aug 25, 2007 7:07 am

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 18):
Really interesting report, thanks for sharing. AY's E170 and A319 are part of my trip to Japan in October, so I know better now about what to expect on the Euro legs.
PH

AY's short haul product is rather good usually, often the meals are the weak point. Free beer/wine helps though.
Do you have a new A343 to/from Japan? I'm really curious how those are, especially the seats and PTV, please write a report!  pray   Wink
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Sun Aug 26, 2007 4:36 pm

Quoting Andaman (Reply 20):
AY's short haul product is rather good usually, often the meals are the weak point. Free beer/wine helps though.
Do you have a new A343 to/from Japan? I'm really curious how those are, especially the seats and PTV, please write a report!

I'll fly both the A343 (HEL-NGO) and the MD-11 (KIX-HEL). I hope to get one of the two brand new A343s, but there's still the ex-Virgin bird...Though, no matter what, I'll post a report about the whole trip (including the domestic sectors on JAL, JTA and ANA).


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Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:13 pm

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 21):
I'll fly both the A343 (HEL-NGO) and the MD-11 (KIX-HEL). I hope to get one of the two brand new A343s, but there's still the ex-Virgin bird...

The old one is only scheduled to fly the Sat/Sun NGO flights, but naturally you might be a victim of an AC change.

Quoting Andaman (Reply 20):
AY's short haul product is rather good usually, often the meals are the weak point.

Well, they still serve food.  Wink
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Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:14 pm

Quoting EFHK (Reply 22):
The old one is only scheduled to fly the Sat/Sun NGO flights, but naturally you might be a victim of an AC change.

Not good to hear because I will fly out on a Saturday...


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Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:41 pm

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 23):
Quoting EFHK (Reply 22):
The old one is only scheduled to fly the Sat/Sun NGO flights, but naturally you might be a victim of an AC change.



Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 23):

Not good to hear because I will fly out on a Saturday...


PH

I heard the ex-Virgin's cabin would get a face lift before winter and would then be similar to the new ones, just don't know was it just wishful thinking...
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Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:09 am

Free sparkle in economy - that's unusual these days! Great report - Helsinki is one of my favourite cities.
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Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:33 am

Quoting Andaman (Reply 24):
I heard the ex-Virgin's cabin would get a face lift before winter and would then be similar to the new ones, just don't know was it just wishful thinking...

I assume it will be fitted with same kind of cabin and enhancements as the other A343s, in November.
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Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:02 pm

Quoting Andaman (Thread starter):
I learnt that now it's officially the most expensive country in EU, Denmark and Finland coming behind.

Not more expensive than Norway though.....

Very good trip report, I hope I can get a flight on an E-jet soon, most likely on one of the upcoming Virgin Blue E-jets.

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Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:30 am

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 27):

Not more expensive than Norway though.....

Very good trip report, I hope I can get a flight on an E-jet soon, most likely on one of the upcoming Virgin Blue E-jets.

-CXfirst

Norway and Iceland should join EU, Finland would look less expensive on the EU-map  Wink

E190 was a nice surprise, I haven't been a fan of small jets so far.
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