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U-434:How To Enter A Russian Submarine HAM Ex FKB

Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:01 am

U-434: How to enter a russian submarine or HAM ex FKB


Once again, hello, dear readers.
I will continue my "summer series" with an enjoyable trip to HAM.
Have you ever been inside one of the largest non-nuclear russian submarines, follow me!.



Tuesday, 31.07.2007
FKB (Karlsruhe-Baden-Baden) - HAM (Hamburg-Fuhlsbüttel)
Duration: 1 hour
AB 6681 (Air Berlin) operated by Germania F-100 D-AGPO
Scheduled: 08.25 // 09.40
Actual: 08.25 // 09.25
Gate: 5 Seat: 19C
Load factor: Around 80%
Fare: 53,75 EUR per pax per leg

History:
18.04.1991: Delivered to USAir
27.02.1997: Further to US Airways
18.06.2004: In service with Germania
31.03.2006: Further to DI
15.12.2006: Painted in AB colours

Flight no. 7 on the F 100 and the second on this machine

This trip will start with the usual question: Is Online-check-in available?.
Not on AB services from FKB. Why ?. I prefer online seat selection, no hurry to secure good seats.
One hour to go by car , so we started at around 6.30 am, no queues on the motorway and arrival at around 7.30 am.
FKB has only limited activities, today one 4R holiday service earlier, followed by two AB services to TXL and HAM.
So, no queues expected, a nice modern airport with short and fast ways.
Check-in was quickly done, seats A and C secured as always when travelling on the F100 with the 2/3 seating.
I was a bit surprised about the F100, the systems show a 733 for this flight, but really ok for me!.
Also no time to wait at security, some shopping, the shop there is less expensive in comparison to other airports.
There is a nice outdoor area after security with an partly apron view.
Our plane arrived early from HAM shortly followed by the 733 from TXL.
Bus boarding as announced, that means not more than 20 minutes from arrival at the parking lot to boarding the plane, not bad from my point of view.

What a nice morning at FKB:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/HAM0702/HAM0702003.jpg

The company 733 to TXL:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/HAM0702/HAM0702004.jpg

Mini-Flieger and D-AGPO:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/HAM0702/HAM0702006.jpg

Welcomed by two friendly female FA´s. The plane fitted with dark grey leather seats, clean. Free magazines available during boarding.
Also a real funny und friendly welcome from the Captain, a experienced one today!. Both, Captain and FO from germany.
If you ever been to HAM, than you know that guys on the harbour cruise ships, that means they tell always never true, impossible stories.
"Moin, moin, on your AB service to HAM. We will bring you fast and sure to HAM, but it is your own decision to go today, don´t call us later when we arrived".
He means the wheather, sunny and warm in southern germany, windy and wet in the northern part.
A short taxi and what I´ve called a rolling take-off from runway 21 in direction HAM via FRA and HAJ.
A free croissant and water/coffee/tea on offer.
High clouds during cruiseflight.

Engine close-up:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/HAM0702/HAM0702009.jpg

And again, traffic included:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/HAM0702/HAM0702011.jpg

Interesting was the approach into HAM, a LH 737 was beneath us the last ten minutes and lined in for finals directly ahead to us.
Touch down 15 minutes ahead to schedule on runway 23, also not bad.
An apron stand during a rain shower, now thats not good, but the captain warned us earlier.
Also a nice gesture was the FO and pilot flying himself, who delivered us the AB chocolate heart at the door and wished us a nice day.
From my personal point of view a real familiar flying experience today on Germania.

Bye-bye, D-AGPO:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/HAM0702/HAM0702014.jpg

No time to wait for the bags and up by public transport to the city.
We stayed at the Motel One Altona, a accomodation with a perfect price/earning ratio.

Lobby:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/HAM0702/HAM0702019.jpg

Some pix from our activities there, including the famous U434 guided tour inside one of the largest ever-built russian non-nuclear submarines.

"Speicherstadt"-traffic:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/HAM0702/HAM0702023.jpg

MS Deutschland at the cruise terminal:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/HAM0702/HAM0702026.jpg

Now, that´s U434:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/HAM0702/HAM0702055.jpg

Ready to go?:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/HAM0702/HAM0702047.jpg

A large one:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/HAM0702/HAM0702055.jpg

Our guide:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/HAM0702/HAM0702037.jpg

Narrow ways:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/HAM0702/HAM0702032.jpg

Hatch:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/HAM0702/HAM0702033.jpg

Command deck:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/HAM0702/HAM0702036.jpg

Helmsman´s place:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/HAM0702/HAM0702035.jpg

Welcome to Russia:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/HAM0702/HAM0702044.jpg

One more:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/HAM0702/HAM0702042.jpg

Me, after the submarine experience:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/HAM0702/HAM0702053.jpg

An elevator for cars?:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/HAM0702/HAM0702063.jpg

Sure, the old tunnel under the "Elbe":
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/HAM0702/HAM0702056.jpg




Wednesday, 01.08.2007
HAM (Hamburg-Fuhlsbüttel) - FKB (Karlsruhe-Baden-Baden)
Duration: 1 hour
AB 6686 (Air Berlin) operated by Germania F-100 D-AGPL
Scheduled: 18.00 // 19.15
Actual: 18.05 // 19.05
Gate: C13 Seat: 18C
Load factor: Near 100 %

History:
07.11.1990: Delivered to US Air
27.02.1997: Further to US Airways
19.08.2003: In service with Germania
01.01.2006: Further to DI
01.02.2007: Repainted in AB colours

Flight no. 8 on the F-100 and the first on this machine

Time to return to HAM airport at around 3.00 pm, again by the fast and effective public transport system.
No time to wait at the AB counters, the agent was surprised when I asked about the operating plane and further immediatelly about seats 18 A and C.
He means that I know the planes and seats better than he knows it!.
Some spotting from the terrace at HAM, a shame that they built a higher fence there.
Quick security, not that much action this time at HAM.
Our machine arrived from NUE, I hoped for a new adittion to my log and so it was.

D-AGPL, just arrived from NUE:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/HAM0702/HAM0702064.jpg

Bus boarding once again at around 5.40 pm. Two female FA´s on this service.

Boarding D-AGPL:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/HAM0702/HAM0702068.jpg

A short welcome from the flightdeck during boarding. Departure from runway 23 via HAJ to FKB.
More and detailed informations from the FO during cruiseflight. Another german cockpit crew on this service.
The machine fitted with dark, grey leather seats, good legroom. Again free magazines, snacks and beverages.

XFW:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/HAM0702/HAM0702069.jpg

HAJ:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/HAM0702/HAM0702070.jpg

Good wheather along the whole route, touchdown ten minutes early on FKB´s runway 21.

Finally arrived at FKB:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/HAM0702/HAM0702071.jpg

Bus deboarding, not that personal service like on the flight yesterday, but not unfriendly at all.
Quick bags and on the way back home.

So, time for my personal opinion.
FKB is a nice airport to fly from, HAM also not a bad place, spacious and modern.
The outbound service on AB/Germania was real special, the inbound more standard but not bad at all.
HAM itself is an interesting and recommendable city with lots of things to do there.

Comments welcome,
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:39 am

Hey Markus, another interesting report. It must have been amazing to be inside the sub.


Thanks for sharing

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Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:58 am

Hi Marcus,

Another great TR, many thanks.

I've not been down in a sub before, did HMS Belfast which is on the Thames though, that is quite interesting, that said you've most likely done that already!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Flight no. 7 on the F 100 and the second on this machine

- Just plane unlucky!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
What a nice morning at FKB:

-The sky looks just perfect, a great day for flying.

Best wishes to you and Mini Flieger.

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Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:06 am

Hi, Philip and Mark, thanx for your replys.

OA260:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 1):
It must have been amazing to be inside the sub.

Sure, a remarkable experience, nothing for people in need for a lot of air around.


Mark:

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 2):
did HMS Belfast which is on the Thames though

Still on my son's to do list
 Wink

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 2):
Just plane unlucky!

I noticed it at home, but even more special than an A320!.

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Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:43 am

Markus, good to see you scored another 'new' F100 to your log! Well done, because it's rather difficult when you fly as often like you do  Smile I really enjoyed the views of the City, and the U-boat. Not really my thing actually, but as long as you guys enjoyed it, then it's great!
btw, is this your first personal appearance on airliners.net in a picture?  Wink

We are actually thinking to visit either MUC or HAM for some end-of-year shopping before X-mas this year. LH offers good fares from AMS. But I prefer MUC, just to catch the CR9  Wink We'll see...

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Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:59 am

Hi, Eric,
thanx for your reply.

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 4):
scored another 'new' F100 to your log!

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Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 4):
this your first personal appearance on airliners.net in a picture?

I´am not sure, but maybe
 Smile

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 4):
But I prefer MUC, just to catch the CR9

Me too, I think MUC will be the better "Christmas feeling".

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Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:03 am

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 5):
Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 4):
this your first personal appearance on airliners.net in a picture?

I´am not sure, but maybe

- I think it is  Smile

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Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:16 am

Hi, Mark,

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 6):
I think it is

Convinced
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:19 am

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3):
Sure, a remarkable experience, nothing for people in need for a lot of air around.

Yes that would be my problem, in such a small space I would panic I think. It made me un easy looking at the photos at first. So nice that you went inside and got photos to show me.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 5):
I´am not sure, but maybe

Haha you know I was thinking the same thing!!! Great to see you at last  Smile
 
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Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:36 am

Hi, Philip,

Quoting OA260 (Reply 8):
So nice that you went inside and got photos to show me.

No problem, I had no bad feeling inside that tube, hope that still will be so in the future.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 8):
Great to see you at last

Lot´s of coming out´s, the last time!

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Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:55 pm

Hi Markus,

I agree, very impressive pics of the sub - but I wouldn't have fancied going inside it. Also liked the shot of the tunnel under the Elbe, very effective.

Mini-Flieger must be top of the class when it comes to Geography and History, all the exciting trips he goes on!

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Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:33 pm

Great report Markus...
enjoyed the pictures of the submarine...
thanks for sharing...
 
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Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:02 am

Hi Markus,

Another great report about an interesting Trip to HAM. I really enjoyed the U-boat pics! Made me remind to the one time I was inside a nuclear submarine in NYC, next to the USS Intrepid Museum.
Great pictures as usual!

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Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:59 am

Hello again,

Infodesk:

Thanx for your reply.

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 10):
Also liked the shot of the tunnel

The old tunnel was a real surprise for me, sure not what to expect from a tunnel!.

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 10):
must be top of the class when it comes to Geography and History,

I hope that he will going in this direction  Smile


Saurabh:

Thanx for your feedback.


Joost:


Thanx for your reply.

Quoting DALCE (Reply 12):
U-boat pics! Made me remind to the one time I was inside a nuclear submarine in NYC, next to the USS Intrepid Museum.

That sounds interesting, one more reason for a trip to NYC.

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Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:52 pm

Hello Markus

Thanks for another interesting report with the usual nice assortiment of pictures. Hamburg is really an interesting city.
Congratulations also for finally entering Russian territory!  Wink

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Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:54 am

Hi, Thomas,
thanx for your reply.

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 14):
Congratulations also for finally entering Russian territory!

After flying several times above Russia, I don´t mention it, but it seem´s your right,
first time in Russia for me!.

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Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:14 pm

Hi Markus,

I took me a while to see this trip report... But I finally spotted it!  Wink
Nice and interesting tour of the U-boat.
I wish I should've made some time in New York, to pay a visit at the USS Intrepid Museum, too see a sub too. Maybe next time...

Congratulations for the report and also for taking the courage to post a picture with you!

All the best!
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Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:41 pm

Hi Markus,

another great report. Seeing the pictures of the Speicherstadt almost made me home sick and I can't wait to visit my relatives in Hamburg in October. My office used to be right outside of the Speicherstadt and our car park was within the Speicherstadt. Did you have a chance to visit the large model train set-up in one of the warehouses ?

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Wed Aug 22, 2007 3:57 pm

Hi Markus!

Thanks for another great trip report. At first, I didn't want to open it, because I don't like submarines at all, but had to because something was telling me that another treat was hiding inside and there certainly was some. I saw Air Berlin F-100s last year in Budapest and they really look nice in that livery.

Anyway, I'm glad you enjoyed your trip and from the pics it's obvious that Mini Flieger was really impressed with Russian submarine.

So, what's next?

Alex

PS I am almost 90% sure that we have same jeans. If you mention the name of Tom Tailor I will know for sure  Wink
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Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:11 am

Hello, again and thanx all for your replys.

Nick:

Quoting Nickbbu (Reply 16):
New York, to pay a visit at the USS Intrepid Museum

Now on my to do list!.

Quoting Nickbbu (Reply 16):
courage to post a picture with you!

No problem, after surviving the sub, it was time to do it!.


Peter:

It seems it´s immediate time for a trip westbound to visit Hamburg.

Quoting BPS3458 (Reply 17):
chance to visit the large model train set-up in one of the warehouses

HAM with my son and without the "Miniatur-Wunderland", no way!


http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/HAM0702/HAM0702029.jpg


"Verkehrsflughafen" on short finals, a must when you visit HAM and you have a special interest in such things!.


Aleksandar

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 18):
Anyway, I'm glad you enjoyed your trip and from the pics it's obvious that Mini Flieger was really impressed with Russian submarine.

Sure, he was.

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 18):
If you mention the name of Tom Tailor I will know for sure

I know "Tom Tailor", for sure, but this one was sold with a "Zara" label, nevertheless you know, "Made in Turkey", maybe at the same factory!

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Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:15 am

Hi, Aleksandar,

Sorry, I forgot!.

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 18):
So, what's next?

A report from a trip to Paris-Orly will be growing up on my laptop.

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Thu Aug 23, 2007 3:05 pm

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 19):
HAM with my son and without the "Miniatur-Wunderland", no way!

Hi Markus,

it's very high on my "to do" list for this visit as well as seeing the game HSV-VFB Stuttgart (tickets already ordered)

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Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:32 am

Hi, Peter,

Quoting BPS3458 (Reply 21):
well as seeing the game HSV-VFB Stuttgart (tickets already ordered)

Sure, a classic one, have fun.

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Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:05 am

Servus Markus,

I finally had a closer look at your well-documented HAM flights and the "sub experience". Since I'm interested in submarines in general, I'll try to visit that ship as well on my next HAM trip.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 2):
- Just plane unlucky!



Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3):
I noticed it at home, but even more special than an A320!.

Oh, please - I can tell you what "plane unlucky" means. That's when you fly NUE-VIE-NUE in June 2006 on OE-LEE and D-ABAE (delayed by some six hours) and repeat the same trip in August 2007, again ending up on OE-LEE and D-ABAE...  covereyes 


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Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:57 am

Servus, PH,

thanx for your reply.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 23):
I'll try to visit that ship as well on my next HAM trip.

Just do it, highly recommendable.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 23):
and repeat the same trip in August 2007, again ending up

Worst case, same route, same planes!.

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Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:56 am

Hi Markus,

another interesting report of your summer series - thanks for sharing!

So this time it was a submarine - next time it was the train at the Oeresund bridge. You also seem to be interested in transport facilities other than planes... It's nice to read about them, too!

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Mon Sep 03, 2007 7:23 pm

Hello, Christoph,
thanx for your reply.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 25):
So this time it was a submarine - next time it was the train at the Oeresund bridge. You also seem to be interested in transport facilities other than planes...

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