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Marambio Tries LAN Argentina On A Domestic Flight

Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:00 am

I arrived at Aeroparque quite ahead of time, even though I had already checked me in at Lan’s website before leaving home. In fact, I did pretty much everything with Lan through the internet: bought my ticket, chose my seat and even printed my boarding pass. I only called them twice, first in order to become a Lan Pass member and second to change my flights, which they did in two seconds and without charging any fees.

I was celebrating a bunch of things that afternoon (I was flying, I was going to meet lots of family I’m fond of, I was going to be with M. again and I was just told I had passed a test at school), so I decided to have a seat at one of the many cafés Aeroparque has got before security and enjoy a nice, cold beer. The TV screens were showing the rugby world cup match of Argentina against France, and the ambiance at AEP was perhaps better than that at the Stade de France – people were clapping and shouting out loud every time Argentina scored.

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Aeroparque thrilled with France – Argentina

Once the match was over, I went through security and managed to take some pictures.

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LV-BGI – Dry-cleaning

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The competitors

LA 4200 – operated by Lan Argentina
19 October 2007
AEP Buenos Aires Aeroparque – COR Córdoba Pajas Blancas (Ambrosio Taravella)
Estimated/actual time of departure: 17:55/17:55
Estimated/actual time of arrival: 19:18/19:18
Airbus A320 – LV-BET
Seat 24A


Boarding was very well organized. They did the classical call for last rows to board first, and there were two people at the door checking whether people boarding were actually seating in the last rows. Once I entered the plane, I took a picture of our neighbour, LV-BGI, about to leave for Mendoza, and tried without any success to make myself comfortable, for legroom was terrible. LV-BET was just re-bumped as a LASER plane, its new configuration being Y168, and that can be really felt. Thankfully the centre seat remained empty during the whole flight. This said, I’ve got to admit the leather-like seats with adjustable headrests are very nice.

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LV-BGI ready to leave for Mendoza

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“Legroom”

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Security instructions shown on the LCD screens

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Ready to taxi, IFR

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View of Aeroparque

We took off from runway 31, which is always nicer than 13 because one can see the whole city and not just the river. We got some nice views, including River Plate stadium, which was full of people waiting to watch Soda Stereo play that evening.

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After take off, view of the “Bosques de Palermo” (Palermo Park) and Belgrano area

We did an ATOVO2B procedure and whilst flying over San Nicolás, not very far from Buenos Aires, clouds managed to cover the whole sky, so no views from there onwards. Catering consisted on the classical unhappy meal box, which is nonetheless happier than Aerolíneas’, because it is made by Havanna, a sort of deluxe Argentine candy brand, and not by popular and medium-quality Arcor.

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Happy meal box with lots of typical marketing sentences that don’t really make any sense

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Happy meal

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Reading material: “In” in-flight magazine, Lan Tours catalogue and a huge safety card

A Canadian “Just for Laughs” humour program was shown on the LCD screens, but I didn’t see any people really paying attention to it. The very same program is shown on TAM flights between Buenos Aires and Sao Paulo.

We landed at Pajas Blancas right on schedule and precisely at 19:18 the aerobridge was connected to the front door. Talk about punctuality! I left the plane and, having nothing but carry-on luggage, I was outside the airport in no time, greeting one of The Nieces and M., who were waiting for me.

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First view of Córdoba

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Downtown Córdoba

A video of our landing at COR can be seen at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1b769PeJ2M

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After a great weekend with the family and M., who, I can say, is now a member of the family, it was time to go back to reality. M. came with me to the airport, where we arrived at around 7:45 am. I didn’t really want to leave, but I sadly had to go.

I checked-in in a mere couple of seconds at the empty Lan Argentina and Lan Chile counters, prepared for passengers going to Buenos Aires and Santiago respectively. The new “terminal” at COR is nice, but they did the same thing than at EZE – a whole new structure for the check-in area, while the rest has been the pretty much the same since the 1978 World Cup. The check-in agent typed something on the computer and gave me my boarding pass while saying: “Marcos, we’re boarding at 8:30 am through gate 5. Have a nice flight.” I was so delighted because the woman called me by my name that I told M. about it.

“- Guess what, the check-in agent called me by my name.
- It’s all about marketing, darling. She calls you by your name, you’re happy, you fly Lan on your next trip.
- Of course, sweetheart, but it was cool anyway. And I’m a victim of marketing, who, after being called by his name, will most probably fly Lan on his next trip.”

We had breakfast at the only café available before security, which was extremely expensive – even more expensive than the very expensive ones at Ezeiza and Aeroparque. Way to go, Aeropuertos Argentina 2000. At 8:30 we said goodbye to each other, with lots of kisses, hugs and all the stupid things you say and do when you are in love and go through this situation. I guess we didn’t match the crowds of business travellers flying on a Monday morning, but, after all, ours was a typical airport scene. I recognize it was hard not to cry whilst crossing the door and seeing her for the last time.

I bought a local newspaper, for I suppose Cordobeses don’t want to sell Buenos Aires papers at their airport (they are extremely proud people, you know), and boarding was called. Again, everything was very organized.

LA 4203 – operated by Lan Argentina
22 October 2007
COR Córdoba Pajas Blancas (Ambrosio Taravella) – AEP Buenos Aires Aeroparque
Estimated/actual time of departure: 09:05/09:05
Estimated/actual time of arrival: 10:20/10:22
Airbus A320 – LV-BET
Seat 14A


I was quite angry when I saw our aircraft would be LV-BET because, as one former a.netter from Germany once said, “there’s nothing worse than flying twice on the same registration.” There’s nothing important to tell about the flight because it was all the same than on my previous trip. The only interesting fact is that the LCD screens were apparently out of order. They were never used, and security instructions were shown the manual way, like in the good old days.

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Waiting to leave for Aeroparque

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Some interesting clouds over southern Santa Fe province

Even though we did the classical runway 13 approach, instead of landing we circled towards runway 31. This meant we experienced a spectacular approach with some great views of downtown Buenos Aires.

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Puerto Madero district

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Puerto Madero, the “Correo Central” (main postal office) and Luna Park stadium

We landed just 2 minutes behind schedule and in no time I was at the bus stop waiting for my bus to go home.

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Guess which the two main carriers at AEP are?

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LV-BET waiting for its next flight

Would I fly Lan Argentina again? Most certainly. Given the current circumstances, with Aerolíneas and Austral being subject to regular delays, cancellations and strikes, it is always nice to know there’s another option – an option that offers punctuality, good service and reasonably new aircraft. Besides, there was practically no price difference between competitors. Is Lan Argentina “the joy of flying” (“el encanto de volar”), as they advertise? Currently, on the Argentine domestic market, I’d say yes.
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Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:44 am

Excellent to see you flying again, Mr Marambio, and nice to see the overhead shots of Buenos Aries. Seems a trifle large!
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Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:37 am

I am laughing about the Havana chocolates. Last week I went to see my aunt and she offered me some chocolate a friend had bought for her from Argentina. It was a box of chocolates called in fact Havana. They were huge and round. I thought they were terrible. Not to my taste. LAN looks great. At least they have "new" Airbus planes. The AR and Austral fleets look so old. I flew from this airport to Iguazu in 1978 on an AR B737. It looks the same. Makes me want to go back again one day. Thanks.
 
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RE: Marambio Tries LAN Argentina On A Domestic Flight

Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:15 pm

Interesting trip report from an interesting part of the world! Thanks!

It's exciting to see LAN's growth in Latin America, they seem to have a subsidiary in almost every country now!  Silly
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RE: Marambio Tries LAN Argentina On A Domestic Flight

Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:00 pm

Hola Marambio!

Gracias por tu artículo.

It was great to read about Lan and your experiences with them. I just remember my summer holidays when I tokk the AEP-IGR-AEP SLA-AEP fligths.

As said in my TR: Argentinian Holidays (ii) AEP-IGR-AEP-SLA-AEP I found Lan to be in very good shape, service was exactly the same you depicted and everything was so well organised that I am looking forward to fly them again when back in Argentina.

¡Hasta pronto!

Salut!

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Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:02 pm

Reading between the lines i think congratulations are in order.  cloudnine   champagne 
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RE: Marambio Tries LAN Argentina On A Domestic Flight

Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:22 pm

Cool one man!!
Liked the text and pictures!
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Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:47 pm

Nice report Marambio!
You are right, LAN Argentina is certainly the best way to fly within Argentina.
I have been to Argentina twice and I flew AEP-BRC, AEP-IGU and COR-AEP (2x) on 4M and they were all very enjoyable flights.
The A320, the on-board service and the oneWorld frequent flyer miles are all a big plus over AU/AR.
Your pics of BsAs are awesome, can't wait to return!

Saludos desde Holanda.

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RE: Marambio Tries LAN Argentina On A Domestic Flight

Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:29 pm

Thank you very much for your comments, gentlemen. They really mean writing a trip report is worth it.  Smile

Quoting Door5Right (Reply 1):
Seems a trifle large!

This city's size also surprises me every time I see it from the air.

Quoting Semsem (Reply 2):
It was a box of chocolates called in fact Havana. They were huge and round. I thought they were terrible. Not to my taste.

Those are alfajores, a typical Argentine chocolate! Although I'm really fond of them, maybe it's some sort of acquired taste.

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 5):
Reading between the lines i think congratulations are in order.

Shukran!  Smile

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Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:08 pm

Really good and interesting TR.

The pics are really great. Especially the pics of downtown Buenos Aires and Cordoba. Just amazing.

Thank you for sharing

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Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:59 am

Hey Marambio,

Thanks for this TR, it was short but you managed to explain enough details to make it a nice reading. Looks like LAN-Argentina is the best option for domestic flights in Argentina.


Saludos desde Monterrey,
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Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:26 am

Sorry for my late answer, gentlemen. Thank you very much for your comments.

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 10):
Looks like LAN-Argentina is the best option for domestic flights in Argentina.

I'd say yes without hesitation. Unless AR and AU change their way of doing businesses, I'll stick with 4M on the routes they operate. Are you coming to visit?  Smile

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Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:34 am

very good report! nice pictures!

Quoting Marambio (Thread starter):
Puerto Madero district



Quoting Marambio (Thread starter):
Puerto Madero, the "Correo Central" (main postal office) and Luna Park stadium

well these shots let me remember very well a business trip I had last year to Buenos Aires ... well every night was Puerto Madero time  Smile really great restaurants around there! well hopefully my actual plans to visit Buenos Aires next Easter will be reality.

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Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:17 am

Nice report. They do seem a lot better than AR. I flew AR on a flight from MIA to EZE in 1999 and I found everthing terrible. the poor old 742 creeked it's way to the southern hemesphere.(I hear they have gotten better since). The flight home with the old LA was great though.


PD: Marmambio: ¡No sabía que Buenos Aires es tan grande! He volado a Ezeiza(EZE), pero nunca a AEP. Bueno.....algún día voy a Argentina una otra vez, pero en 10 días más voy a Tenerife para ser con mi familia que vive allá .Gracias para la informa. Saludos desde los Estados Unidos de América
 
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Sun Nov 18, 2007 9:52 am

Nice little report there, loved the photo's of B Aires, very cool indeed!

Quoting Marambio (Thread starter):
I was quite angry when I saw our aircraft would be LV-BET because, as one former a.netter from Germany once said, “there’s nothing worse than flying twice on the same registration.”

- And he is so right!

Look forward to the next TR.

Regards

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Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:50 pm



Quoting Avianca (Reply 12):
really great restaurants around there!

Probably the best in town!

Quoting Usair320 (Reply 13):
¡No sabía que Buenos Aires es tan grande!

It's just your average 12-million-people capital city  Wink

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Quoting Marambio (Reply 15):
Probably the best in town!

question, how much cost these days there a dinner ??? jeje last year when I was in Buenos Aires I gained arround 4 kgs within 4 days  Smile
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Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:05 am

Great trip report Marambio and pictures.  bigthumbsup  I enjoyed looking at the pictures of Buenos Aires from the air.
 
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Quoting Avianca (Reply 16):
question, how much cost these days there a dinner ???

Anything from 50 to 300 pesos per person - it depends on how much you eat, what kind of wine you have, etc.  Wink At the current exchange rate, that would be from 15 to 95 USD. Of course you can get more expensive than that, but such prices would be my "average."

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Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:01 am

Hi there Marambino!

Have heard from a number of people that the service/aircraft offered by 4M is not on par with what LA usually offers. They complain about the service, schedule even aircraft interiors. Can you confirm this? Any one for that matter?
 
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Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:41 pm

Nice report and pics - thanks for sharing. I hope to add Argentina to my list of visited countries one day  Smile

You don't need to put your username in the thread title, by the way - we can see your username!! (a little a.net pet hate of mine  Wink haha)
 
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Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:59 pm



Quoting TBCITDG (Reply 19):

Have heard from a number of people that the service/aircraft offered by 4M is not on par with what LA usually offers. They complain about the service, schedule even aircraft interiors. Can you confirm this? Any one for that matter?

I personally can't because I have never flown LA mainline, but if you compare 4M with its competitors within Argentina, they are most certainly offering a better product than the rest.

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 20):
I hope to add Argentina to my list of visited countries one day Smile

We're waiting for you!  Smile

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RE: Marambio Tries LAN Argentina On A Domestic Flight

Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:33 pm

Great TR. I am (probably) one of those (few) who have had ONLY good experiences with AR. It will be interesting to try out Lan Argentina. Maybe when I am there at the end of the year?!

Thanks for sharing,
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