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SEA-NRT In UA F, NRT-DTW In NW C (pics)

Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:12 pm

Hey all,

Here's my second TR on a.net!! I actually just got back from this trip yesterday, but I'm just sitting at home not doing much of anything right now, so I figured I'd get it done. The full itinerary of my trip was DEN-SEA-NRT-DTW-MSP-DEN, but my trip report only has the two international flights. All the domestic flights were uneventful, except all three of them were 752's with Pratt & Whitney power, so that was the highlight of domestic part of the trip!!  bigthumbsup 



31 October 2007
UA875, SEA-NRT
777-222/ER, N783UA, Fleet# 2983
Seat: 3J, First Class

Load Factor-
First Class: 60%
Business: 60%
Coach: 90%

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On approach into SEA from DEN on the 752, we had to go into holding for awhile, and were told by the captain that the weather in SEA was incredibly cloudy & foggy, limiting the amount of traffic into and out of SeaTac. Short of diverting, that actually sounded great to me, as I was scheduled to have a 3-hour layover in SEA. We finally started the approach, and which time I got to see just how bad the weather was. It wasn't down to CAT-3 minimums, but it was definitely CAT-2 cloud cover and visibility.

For having never been to SEA before, I was COMPLETELY lost inside the terminals!!! I think UA sits in a satellite terminal, but again I'm not sure and have no idea about SEA's layout. I didn't bother to go exploring either, because I didn't want to accidentally go outside of security or anything.

After a long time of waiting, the agents finally started boarding...but, I still didn't have my boarding pass. I checked the loads one last time in DEN, and unless something changed in a few hours, I had thought the flight was wide-open...so I was becoming a bit concerned. But, the agents finally called my name and I got a window seat in First Class, 3J.


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First Class cabin while boarding in SEA


Coach was nearly full on this flight, while the premium cabins were barely over half full. N783UA, the 777 I was on, is one of the Euro-configured 772ER's in the UA fleet, with the 12F/49C/197Y cabin configuration (config used on Intl. 772A's), as compared to the typical UA 772ER configuration of 10F/45C/198Y. As such, N783UA doesn't have crew bunk rooms, so they blocked off seat 3A for the pilot rest area, as well as 6x Econ Plus seats for the FA rest area. My seat, 3J, also had the "crew rest" curtains for it, just stowed back behind the seat. I considered asking the FA's if I could draw the curtains, but I didn't......why ask a question if you already know the answer!!


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View from my window on the ground in SEA


After boarding was completed, we taxied for a short while to runway 16L. I made sure to get a takeoff video, as this was my first-ever international trip on a 777.... all my other 777 flights were domestic segments. Anyhow, the takeoff was awesome, and the sound of the PW4090's spooling up was entirely too cool!!!!! I don't care what a.net says about UA having reduced MGTOW and reduced thrust 777's, UA still has some pretty kickass birds. And, like I said, there is just no beating the sound of those engines!!


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Flying over Alaska. Note- You can see the stator blades, due to the interesting lighting angle


The cabin service was fantastic, and the food was excellent. The selection of food from the menu was huge. My dinner was:

Seared crab cake and shredded chicken and toasted cashew salad with organic yuzu-miso vinaigrette and sweet and sour cucumber relish.

Roasted Yukon gold potato, cheddar, and bacon chowder

Salad of fresh seasonal greens with balsamic Dijon vinaigrette

Rosemary lemon Mediterranean sea bass with tomato and olive ragout. Served with Vegetable risotto and sauteed spinach.

Dessert of ice cream with sundae toppings


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On approach into NRT. About the same weather that was in SEA!!


The midflight snack and arrival breakfast were also very good. Midflight I had a ham & cheese sandwich with baked lays, and strawberries with a brown sugar sour cream dip for dessert. For breakfast I got the simple fruit and yogurt plate.

Landing in NRT was very smooth, which was followed by a very long taxi. At least the "scenery" was interesting, getting to see all sorts of ANA and JAL ops out of NRT. Of course, I didn't even think of it to bring out my camera. Oh well, such is life. Anyhow, UA875 was an awesome flight with great service. The flight attendants were very nice, and even went through the cabin handing out "trick or treat" candy just prior to top of descent. Bravo to UA!!




03 November 2007
NW12, NRT-DTW
747-451, N665US, Fleet# 6305
Seat: 3A, Main Deck World Business Class

Load Factor-
World Business Class: 95%
Coach: 95%

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Even though I only spent a few days in NRT, I really enjoyed it. A great city, as well as a great country. If I ever become an expat, I'm going to either Japan or Germany!! Anyhow, most of the NWA flights to the US from NRT were fairly full on 03NOV, so I was forced to make a relative last-second decision as to which flight I'd try for. I actually tried to get on NW2 to LAX, but that flight ended up being totally full, so I walked over to the 2nd DTW flight where the agents promptly gave me a World Business seat more than an hour before departure. I asked to see if the top deck was full, which it unfortunately was. Oh well, like hell I'm going to complain at all about getting C-class on a 744!!

Boarding was a bit of a clusterf**k. A bunch of Econ pax worked their way into the World Business Class line, so boarding had to be stopped at least twice to try to reorganize it. Once on board though, people found their seats quickly and all went smooth. NWA's World Business Class seems to get hot & cold reviews on a.net. Personally, I LOVE it. A near full-flat recline, along with a pretty nice AVOD system.


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The aft main-deck C-class cabin on #6305


Unfortunately I didn't get any pics or vids of the takeoff or climbout as the sun was directly on my side of the plane and made for horrible pictures.

Cabin service was excellent again, with very nice and attentive FA's. Dinner was served fairly quickly after takeoff, which was delicious.

Appetizer of tandori shrimp and Asian beef spring rolls, salad of mixed greens with creamy caesar dressing.

Grilled salmon with cream mushroom sauce, mashed potatoes, and green beans.

Dessert of fresh fruit, maribo and rosenborg cheese, gourment cakes & cookies, port wine, Ghirardelli chocolates


After dinner I watched the movie "Transformers".....well, most of it. I fell asleep about an hour into it, so don't anyone dare think about posting plot spoilers!!! For being an 11 hour flight, it actually seemed to go pretty quickly. Between dinner, movie, sleeping, another movie, and breakfast, time seemed to fly. Since my seat was so far forward, I don't have any good pics of the wing, engine, or anything like that, so I do apologize!! My only good pic was taken from door 2L while climbing to cruise, just before sunset.


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Climbing out of NRT. With the strong tailwinds our ground speed was as high as 730mph


Arrival in DTW was great... absolute PERFECT landing by the crew. I didn't even realize we had touched down until I heard the thrust reverse. Customs took longer than I had hoped......quite a few international flights had just arrived before us, and the lines were fairly long. I'd say probably a 15-20 minute wait. I love connecting in the DTW World Gateway though, one of the best and coolest terminals in the US. Great flight on NWA though....almost too bad the flight wasn't slightly longer, I would like to have finished "Transformers"!!

If I had to pick a favorite between UA or NW it would be very difficult. UA's food service was probably better, but I definitely prefer NWA's WorldBiz seat as well as their entertainment system. Both though, were great flights and will be great memories!!!

Thanks for reading, and all comments appreciated!!
 
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RE: SEA-NRT In UA F, NRT-DTW In NW C (pics)

Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:18 pm

730mph!
That is fast...
F class looks nice and the service should be TIP TOP!
The last time i flew F with a US airline did the steward ask me if i was 21...
I wanted a scotch.
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RE: SEA-NRT In UA F, NRT-DTW In NW C (pics)

Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:23 pm

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Boarding was a bit of a clusterf**k. A bunch of Econ pax worked their way into the World Business Class line, so boarding had to be stopped at least twice to try to reorganize it.

hehehe, Glad to see this isn't just on Southwest Airlines  Wink Pay Attention folks, proof, this is not only a WN thing! Big grin

Anyhow, what a great report.

It is awesome to be able to fly as you please around anytime, anywhere!

The pics were very good and clear.

It is always exciting to be able to hop onboard and go somewhere!

One Day I shall do Intl on a widebody..One of these days!

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RE: SEA-NRT In UA F, NRT-DTW In NW C (pics)

Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:26 pm

Nice report; I was particularly interested to see what the loads were like on SEA-NRT given that I've heard mixed reveiws on the profitability of that route. I've taken NW a few times and it was 100% loads each time, but never flown UA on this route.

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
For having never been to SEA before, I was COMPLETELY lost inside the terminals!!! I think UA sits in a satellite terminal, but again I'm not sure and have no idea about SEA's layout. I didn't bother to go exploring either, because I didn't want to accidentally go outside of security or anything.

UA is in the N Satellite, which is pretty ghetto if you ask me. If you're in SEA again, you can take the train to the main terminal for better food/shopping, and you don't have to exit security. Also if you ever transit SEA on the return, you have to clear INS/Customs at the S Satellite, then take 2 trains to the N gates - a bit of a trek.
 
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RE: SEA-NRT In UA F, NRT-DTW In NW C (pics)

Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:44 am

Great trip report! I was curious about how you have both UA and NW flight benefits - what a nice deal! I have been wondering about whether UA puts their non-revs into the premium cabins or not, so I guess that's true? I know DL will put any non-rev into first class as long as the cabin isn't full with revenue or upgrade pax. Is that how it is with UA/NW?

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RE: SEA-NRT In UA F, NRT-DTW In NW C (pics)

Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:53 am

Very good report. The only thing I would suggest to make it better (for me at least) would be more pictures, although you said you took videos on the UA flight. Any way we can access your videos on the internet?
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RE: SEA-NRT In UA F, NRT-DTW In NW C (pics)

Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:47 am

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 3):
I was particularly interested to see what the loads were like on SEA-NRT

You are right, that NW's SEA-NRT flight typically goes with much higher load factors than UA's. However, UA875 (SEA-NRT) still maintains relatively good load factors, just typically heavier in coach than in the premium cabins, just like on my flight.

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 3):
If you're in SEA again, you can take the train to the main terminal for better food/shopping, and you don't have to exit security.

I did see the train to the main terminal, I was just unsure if I'd exit security or not. If I'm back in SEA, I'll be sure to go.... the N satellite was fairly "ghetto"!!

Quoting Shawn Patrick (Reply 4):
I was curious about how you have both UA and NW flight benefits

Both my parents work for the airlines, and I work the DEN ramp on the weekends away from school.  Smile

Quoting Shawn Patrick (Reply 4):
I have been wondering about whether UA puts their non-revs into the premium cabins or not

UA is generally very good to the nonrevs over premium cabin upgrades. There are just a few stipulations. If you are a dependent under age 16 you cannot ride international first...business only. If you are on a buddy pass, you cannot ride in international first....business only. Also, you must always be "dressed to impress". I think a few legacies got rid of the nonrev dress code, but it is still very much in effect at NW, UA, and AA (the airlines I get passes on).

Quoting Triple7man (Reply 5):
Any way we can access your videos on the internet?

I haven't posted them anywhere...I don't really know how, haha. Can you upload videos to photobucket, or do I have to use Youtube??

Quoting Bofredrik (Reply 1):
730mph!
That is fast...

It was actually a mixed blessing, haha!! I'm sure the Y-class pax LOVED that tailwind, but in C-class I was almost disappointed I lost an hour off the flight time!!  Silly

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 2):
One Day I shall do Intl on a widebody..One of these days!

WN doesn't have widebodies!!  Wink

Hmm... it seems you'll just have to defect to a good airline. *cough* legacy *cough*  stirthepot 


Thanks to everyone for the comments!!
 
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RE: SEA-NRT In UA F, NRT-DTW In NW C (pics)

Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:22 am

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
I haven't posted them anywhere...I don't really know how, haha. Can you upload videos to photobucket, or do I have to use Youtube??

I don't know much about uploading videos as I haven't uploaded one (yet). I know you can do it at YouTube. There is also another website, www.flightlevel350.com which is also excellent. I love the 777 and I always love to see videos on it.
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RE: SEA-NRT In UA F, NRT-DTW In NW C (pics)

Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:20 am

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Note- You can see the stator blades, due to the interesting lighting angle.

A bit of a correction: Those are stator blades in some way but they are really guide vanes.

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 3):
UA is in the N Satellite, which is pretty ghetto if you ask me.

Before SEA refirbished the N and S satellites 10 years ago, those were the best because the resturaunt in the middle of each satellite was comfy, cozy and private. Now its an 'open air' atmopshere with crappy food venders. I wished SEA never referbished the satellites as they are now.
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RE: SEA-NRT In UA F, NRT-DTW In NW C (pics)

Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:35 pm

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Dessert of ice cream with sundae toppings

That a pathethic excuse for F class dessert on a transpacific flight
 
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RE: SEA-NRT In UA F, NRT-DTW In NW C (pics)

Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:45 am

Quoting Triple7man (Reply 7):
I love the 777 and I always love to see videos on it.

Alright, I'm working on uploading the videos. I'll be sure the post them if I get it figured out, haha.

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 8):
Now its an 'open air' atmopshere with crappy food venders.

I know.....Starbucks and Burger King is a pretty bad selection!! They don't even have Panda Express or anything!!! Blasphemy......  Big grin

Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 9):
That a pathethic excuse for F class dessert on a transpacific flight

Not really, it was actually pretty nice. They came by with the ice cream, then let you select all the toppings you wanted, and then "assembled" it in front of you.
 
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Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:08 am

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Not really, it was actually pretty nice. They came by with the ice cream, then let you select all the toppings you wanted, and then "assembled" it in front of you.

It's also what they do on AA 777's in first class. I like it.
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Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:05 pm

Really good TR.

The pics are great.

Thank you for sharing.

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RE: SEA-NRT In UA F, NRT-DTW In NW C (pics)

Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:45 am

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 10):
Not really, it was actually pretty nice. They came by with the ice cream, then let you select all the toppings you wanted, and then "assembled" it in front of you.



Quoting Triple7man (Reply 11):
It's also what they do on AA 777's in first class. I like it.

It's also what Continental does in first class on their 757s between Anchorage and Seattle or Houston.
It's great, and I love it... but I would certainly expect something more on a flight that would cost me so much more.

Anyhoo, great report. I'd love to go to Tokyo someday.
 
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RE: SEA-NRT In UA F, NRT-DTW In NW C (pics)

Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:36 pm

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 10):
I know.....Starbucks and Burger King is a pretty bad selection!! They don't even have Panda Express or anything!!! Blasphemy......

Flying into/out of the N or S Satellites is not fun anymore. Sad
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RE: SEA-NRT In UA F, NRT-DTW In NW C (pics)

Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:26 am

Quoting Triple7man (Reply 11):
It's also what they do on AA 777's in first class. I like it.

They do it on both the 763's and 777's, as well as in Business Class too. I flew CDG-MIA in C-class on a 763 this past September, and the ice cream was excellent!!! They had so many toppings to choose from!! I thought about asking for "the works", but thought better of it considering there were like 17 different selections. I didn't think hot butterscotch would have been good on ice cream, but ooohhhh baby...  cloudnine 

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 14):
Flying into/out of the N or S Satellites is not fun anymore.

You know, I would love to go to SEA again, it's just a hard airport to get to......finding open flights, that is. I was lucky to get on UA875 on DEN-SEA... it typically goes out full, especially on the bottom half of the week.

Anyhow......

Sorry it took so long, but here are the videos!! First is the takeoff out of SEA. I love the "progression" of spool-up sounds from the PW4090. That has got to be one of the coolest-sounding engines out there!! Then, the landing in NRT. One thing I found particularly interesting on the 777 is the sequence of deployment of the spoilers. Obviously Boeing saw some benefit in doing that....does anyone know the "why"???



Takeoff in SEA



Landing in NRT
 
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RE: SEA-NRT In UA F, NRT-DTW In NW C (pics)

Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:48 am

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 15):
That has got to be one of the coolest-sounding engines out there!!

You're so stupid. RR's sound so much better.  Wink

Great report, Matt! A joy, as always!!!

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RE: SEA-NRT In UA F, NRT-DTW In NW C (pics)

Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:07 am

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 16):
You're so stupid. RR's sound so much better.

Whatev man!!!!! I haven't been on one of AA's 777's yet (much less in First Class!!) since I'm not Exec Platinum like yourself - But, I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.....

Wow, that was totally lame... time for me to go to bed.
 
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RE: SEA-NRT In UA F, NRT-DTW In NW C (pics)

Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:52 am

Awesome trip report. Im taking flt 9 on Sunday from HNL to NRT in C.......did they give out amerinity ktis in WBC?
 
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RE: SEA-NRT In UA F, NRT-DTW In NW C (pics)

Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:44 pm

Quoting HnlBoi (Reply 18):
Awesome trip report. Im taking flt 9 on Sunday from HNL to NRT in C.......did they give out amerinity ktis in WBC?

They do!! I couldn't tell you what's in it though, since I just threw mine in my backpack without even opening it, haha. But, they hand out quite a lot. Slippers, amenity kit, menu, playing cards....... the whole 9 yards.
 
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Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:03 pm

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 17):
since I'm not Exec Platinum like yourself - But, I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.....

LOL. Totally sounds like you, Matt...

And I'm not Exec Platinum. I'm not even Gold. My dad is lifetime Platinum.

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Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:43 pm

Nice report and photo'ws, many thanks - though some meal service pics would be nice.

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Tue Dec 25, 2007 9:59 am

Very nice TR thanks for sharing

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RE: SEA-NRT In UA F, NRT-DTW In NW C (pics)

Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:56 pm



Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
I love connecting in the DTW World Gateway though, one of the best and coolest terminals in the US. Great flight on NWA though....



Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
For being an 11 hour flight, it actually seemed to go pretty quickly. Between dinner, movie, sleeping, another movie, and breakfast, time seemed to fly.

Couldn't agree with you more, the World Gateway is simply the best. WBC is a great way to travel, If you think NRT-DTW at 11 hrs. went by fast; just imagine how fast a DTW-TATL goes by in WBC- its hard to get three movies in.  Smile
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RE: SEA-NRT In UA F, NRT-DTW In NW C (pics)

Thu Dec 27, 2007 12:06 am



Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
If I had to pick a favorite between UA or NW it would be very difficult. UA's food service was probably better, but I definitely prefer NWA's WorldBiz seat as well as their entertainment system. Both though, were great flights and will be great memories!!!

I can see why the AVOD on NW would trump UA but why did you prefer the WBC seat over the First Suite? On UA, I find so much more space and storage on the 777 in F than on NW in C, plus the seat lies all the way flight and is half a foot longer. Could you elaborate?

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 13):
It's also what Continental does in first class on their 757s between Anchorage and Seattle or Houston.
It's great, and I love it... but I would certainly expect something more on a flight that would cost me so much more.


On United in F, there is also a cheese/fruit board, and anotehr choice of desert, not just the sundae. But perhaps this is the only choice that the OP selected to eat.

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