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On My Way To Sydney And SQ380 Trip Report – Part 2

Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:55 pm

On the way to Sydney and SQ380
Trip Report – Part 2

Frankfurt Airport

After leaving the aircraft that brought me in from Nice I walked toward the exit sign. Frankfurt airport is gigantic. This is one of the world’s most important airports. It can be very confusing going from one terminal to the other. You really have to look where you are going. It is very easy to go to the wrong place while trying to get from one terminal to the other.

http://www.airportcity-frankfurt.com.../rubrik/9/9682.airport_city_en.htm

I had everything with me and did not have to go to baggage claim so I went through passport control. It was fast as I am a EU passport holder. I felt free and happy as I knew I was on my way to one of the world’s most wonderful airport facilities: the Lufhansa First Class Terminal. I had spent time there before and I love the place. I could make it my home. I kept walking through this huge airport looking where I was going until I got to the right place.

In the large hallway of Terminal 1A I looked for the Lufthansa First Class check-in area.



This is a separate place. There is a desk with two employees. There was a man and a woman. I waited in line for my turn until they had finished with the previous passengers. There is a comfortable seating area attached to it where passengers can rest or prepare their travel documents.



The agent was very nice. There was a problem with her computer so she had to reboot the system and then everything went back to normal. She asked me for my ticket and passport. I told her I wanted to go to the First Class Terminal to wait for my flight to Singapore as I had reserved several hours to enjoy this most wondrous lounge. She handed me my boarding pass for the next flight in a silver colour First Class sleeve and made a phone call.

Before I knew it my limo driver was there to take me to the FCT, a charming young woman and quite an efficient driver.






She dropped me off at the FCT after driving around the airport. The FCT building is nowhere within walking distance.



Lufthansa First Class Terminal (FCT)

I love FCT! This is THE place to wait for a flight!

Before entering the proper lounge area, I had to go through security check. The process was quite easy: no waiting line! The staff was very nice and again very efficient. I decided to go back outside to take a few pictures while one of the staff was watching my belongings. I hurried as it was cold.



I went back inside the building and through security.



I was escorted by my own personal attendant. She took my passport and my boarding pass. A personal assistant is at the passenger's disposal throughout his entire stay.



Once I was in the lounge area, I went directly to the shower and bath facilities and registered whith the lady in charge. I was asked to write my name and flight number on a list. Beautiful restrooms, the most luxurious shower-facilities that will provide the much-needed refreshment before or after a long journey.

Slippers and bath robe



Amenities by Etro



Shower



Bath towel



Full bath

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a285/madameconcorde/sq380part2/P1160315.jpg

Wash basin



Coat hangers and sitting area with floor to ceiling mirrors

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a285/madameconcorde/sq380part2/P1160318.jpg

When I had finished my bath I was feeling much better and relaxed so I went back to the lounge.



I was starting to feel hungry so I went to the dining area.



I decided to taste some of the specials that they had for the month of October.



Moroccan chicken curry with white rice, couscous with a mix of jasmine flowers and sea bass with jasmine blossoms. I did not take a large portion but everything I had on my plate was absolutely delicious. For drink I chose sparkling water.



Then I went to see about having some dessert. I got tempted by a Crème Brulée. It had a delicate flavor of lemon and a crispy top. This Crème Brulée was truly delicious.



The FCT lounge got busier with all the night flights coming up.

The pictures will give you a good indication on the facilities: first Impression on arrival, reception, security screening, bathroom with amenities, sitting areas,






the restaurant area, tables set up, the lavish self serving buffet with a wonderful array of food, the ham cutting machine,










the Bar with enormous selection, a very professional bartender, 13 different beers, 70 choices of whisky and fine champagne,



the Cigar Lounge with its own Bar,



a Duty Free shop,



the huge selection of magazines and newspapers, WLAN (free 1/2 hour sessions), fax, payphones, laptops for rent (free), 4 office-rooms where you can close doors and work in privacy, huge plasma screens for tv, B&O stereo with plenty CDs in the smoking room, DVDs for rent (free) and last but not least the transfers by private limousine.

Boarding is unlike that of any terminal: it is done via a chauffeured Mercedes S-Class or Porsche Cayenne that will elegantly whisk guests plane-side.

The Frankfurt FCT is an experience by itself. The First Class lounges can be used as both departures and arrivals lounges for passengers travelling with Luthansa First Class. A truly wonderful place away from the hustle and bustle of Frankfurt airport. A whole report could be written for it alone.

Link to a First Class Terminal Lounge video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRPqNs7cRO8

Then came the time when my personal attendant came to let me know it was time to go and board the flight. It was about 9.30 PM.



She took me to a passport and boarding pass control area downstairs and then my Italian driver came. He told me he is working this job while studying Event Planning in a school in Frankfurt.



I got out of the car at the foot of the big 747-400.



I just had a couple of minutes left on the ground to take pictures. The driver then helped me up the stairs and inside the aircraft.

I showed my boarding pass at the door and was directed towards the stairs up to the First Class cabin. The driver took my bag all the way upstairs. I thanked him for his help and said goodbye after which a stewardess led me to my seat.
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Luf...nsa/Lufthansa_Boeing_747-400_D.php

My seat number was 81K a bulkhead window seat, right side, first row.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a285/madameconcorde/sq380part3/P1160334.jpg

Without delay, the stewardess brought me a ladies amenity kit, a pyjama and a pouch with socks and slippers. A few minutes later, one of the cockpit crew made an announcement over the PA system. There was a problem with the navigation equipment, a computer needed extra check-ups and we would be leaving 10 minutes late.

The aircraft was completely booked up. The First Class cabin was full. We patiently waited until a new annoucement was made about one hour later. The data was entered in the computer successfully but they still needed to do some testing on the ground. This would take about 10 more minutes. The 10 minutes lasted more like half an hour and we were still waiting. They finally fixed the bug and we were to leave Frankfurt an hour and a half later than the scheduled departure time.

The purser made a new announcement. Flying time to Singapore will be 11 hours and 30 minutes. This would get us in Singapore at 11.30 PM instead of 10.00 PM. We are finally up in the air after a long wait. We are finally up in the air. We have a full cabin and this is a very noisy aircraft. I found it rather surprising to hear that Lufthansa has no Premium Economy seating on any of their aircrafts.

Service announcements are made about meals and movies. Menus and wine lists were handed to us. The stewardess came around with hot towels each on a white plate. These were wonderful, thick, fat, very hot wet towels just the way I like them. After the towels were picked up, the stewardess brought me an appetizer, goat cheese mousse with a slight touch of strawberry sauce.



She asked me what I wanted to drink. It was time for a glass of champagne. With the champagne, I was asked if I would fill in a survey which I accepted. Then I was asked for my choice of meal.

Dinner service started soon thereafter.

Dreamer’s delight

Cold Gourmet Plate
Salmon and char as a filet and Tureen, Herb Crème Fraiche and Antipasti
Or
Hot Specialty
Bleu de Gex, Murol and medium-aged Gouda
Fresh fruit

Menu

Choice of Hors d’Oeuvres

Caviar with the traditional garnishes
Hot-smoked duck breast, Apple and Rosemary Purée with stuffed Vanilla Plum
Grilled eggplant and tomato terrine with parsley and balsamico

Chilled Lobster Terrine with exotic fruit sauce and tamarind


Salad

Curly endive, Radicchio, Lollo Rosso and Lamb’s lettuce with cucumber, carrots and walnuts
Macadamia Nut or Potato dressing


Choice of Main Courses

Loin of Lamb, peppers, beans and a zucchini, mint purée.
Cheese ravioli with harvest corn sauce and oyster mushrooms, carrots, Brussels sprouts and Langres potato purée

Filet of Halibut in black truffled Dashi stock, with hearts of palm, silver onions, Shiitake mushrooms and baby Bok Choy.



Selection of Cheese and Dessert

Bleu de Gex, Murol, medium-matured Gouda, Brillat Savarin, St Nectaire served with plums, cherry tomatoes and celery
Jelly of Grapefruit and Elderflower sorbet

Milk chocolate dome served with Espresso sauce, mint and blackcurrants


Specialty dessert wines

Champagnes

« D » de Devaux Brut, Champagne Veuve Devaux
« Rare » Champagne Piper-Heidsieck

It would take me too much time to rewrite the Monthly Proposal, Apéritif, White wines, Red wines, Spirits, Liqueurs and Port.

This B-744 is a really noisy aircraft. Even with a First Class seat that folds down flat into a bed I always have trouble sleeping on a plane. I did not sleep much, maybe 4 hours at the most out of the 11+ hours flying time which reminded me that once we landed in Singapore I would have to catch another night long haul flight to Sydney to meet the A380 to be on the return inaugural flight.

About two hours before landing a steward brought me a hot towel, placed on a white plate, another wonderful steaming hot wet towel just the way I like them. They picked up the hot towels. Then I turned around and noticed a glass of orange juice was waiting for me on the left side of my seat. One of the stewardesses brought me the breakfast menu even though this did not feel like breakfast time.



Breakfast






Cold and hot specialties

Freshly squeezed Orange Juice
Natural yogurt, yogurt with fresh fruits, corn flakes and milk
Smoked salmon, fine salmon strudel, Parma ham, smoked turkey breast, German salami,
Yogurt cheese, Cream cheese with chives, Rahmberg cheese



Scrambled eggs freshly prepared upon your request with bacon and chives

I had my menus sent to be signed by the cockpit crew. It seemed like I was the only one in the cabin not sleeping. I could hear a man snoring in the seat behind me. Although all the shades were pulled down, it was full daylight outside for many hours.

The map on the monitor was out of order due to the computer problem before take off so I had no idea where we were or flying speed or altitude. Landing time should be 50 minutes late. I could not see much of anything out the windows as it was all cloudy. At some point later I recognized the Irrawady river and Burma and I thought of all the troubles that were taking place in this absolutely fabulous land. Then we went through some fairly heavy turbulence. I could not see anything out the window. Everything was white.

The cockpit crew announced we were 30 minutes from landing in Singapore with turbulence on descent.



Ground temperature 31 degrees centigrades, thank you for choosing us. Another announcement about the seatbelts and electronic equipment was made by the Purser.

Overall this turned out to be a very nice flight with good food, pleasant cabin crew and a nice seat neighbor. One more annoucement came for the passengers going to Jakarta. More turbulence, the aircraft making a left turn preparing for descent, going down along the coast and inland over industrial areas into the airport. We heard the brakes and flew over Changi beach and golf course. Smooth landing and taxi to Gate E5.



Singapore Changi Airport



Now that I was in the terminal, there was no idle time.

I rushed upstairs to the Silver Kris Lounge to pick up my boarding pass for the next flight to Sydney and then through passport control as I had to meet my young Singaporean friend Aaron Yan and his friend Eugene Yeo, both bright young students and future pilots



I knew they were down there waiting outside the luggage belts area and my flight arrived late. I was rushed and we did not have much time to talk.

I had to rush back to the Singapore Airlines check-in counter to check my travel bag to Sydney. I said goodbye to Aaron and Eugene at the immigration point. Then I went back upstairs to Silver Kris Lounge and had a quick shower.



I needed to have something to eat so I picked two pieces of coffee mocha pastry and made a cup of tea before going to the gate to board the next flight.



This ends Part 2 of my Trip Report
On the way to Sydney and SQ380

Part 3 to come in the next couple of days...

[Edited 2007-11-06 14:11:26]
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RE: On My Way To Sydney And SQ380 Trip Report – Part 2

Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:21 pm

Brilliant very nice 2nd part. I have to get into the F Terminal at FRA . It looks amazing. Shame you had a 90min delay. Food looked good .

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RE: On My Way To Sydney And SQ380 Trip Report – Part 2

Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:56 pm

Lovely report! (Again.)

Nice to see they are serving Austrian mineral water @ FRA...
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RE: On My Way To Sydney And SQ380 Trip Report – Part 2

Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:46 pm

excellent report again Madame  Smile
I always enjoy the pictures from the First Class Terminal at FRA.
Thanks for sharing the report and I am now looking forward to part 3.
 
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RE: On My Way To Sydney And SQ380 Trip Report – Part 2

Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:59 am

Thank you so much for sharing it with us! I think this is the first time I read about LH First Class Facilities in Frankfurt and I enjoyed in every word and every photo.

Can't wait to see part 3
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RE: On My Way To Sydney And SQ380 Trip Report – Part 2

Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:58 am

very nice homie touch to the duckie on the bath tub side at the LH FCT

Great report looking forward to details on how SQ celebrated your birthday on the 380

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RE: On My Way To Sydney And SQ380 Trip Report – Part 2

Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:12 am

Wow, this second installment was incredible. I was entranced with all the photographs.

I look forward to your report describing the A-380 adventure. I hope you are recovering from your mishaps experienced during the journey home.
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RE: On My Way To Sydney And SQ380 Trip Report – Part 2

Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:52 am

Really really excellent second part.

The pics are really good.

The FCT seems really magnificent.

Looking forward for next part.

Thank you for sharing.

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RE: On My Way To Sydney And SQ380 Trip Report – Part 2

Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:10 am

Hello. What a very entertaining trip report (both parts 1 and 2). I had no idea before that there was such an amazing first class lounge at Frankfurt. It looks absolutely stunning.

Best wishes

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RE: On My Way To Sydney And SQ380 Trip Report – Part 2

Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:11 am

Thank you Madame for the excellent report and wonderful pics of the meals.
Pity airlinmeals.net seems not functioning this year. Anyone knows if it's going to be up and running again?

Wow, the LH's lounge is awesome.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Thread starter):
I could make it my home.

After seeing the pics, I can understand why. Me too.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Thread starter):
Yogurt cheese, Cream cheese with chives, Rahmberg cheese

Personally I like this cold meal with the assortment of cheeses. However, this is often not offered in Asian carriers for breakfast. But you can always request for it though in FRCL. Once on an overnight flight on SQ, I asked the dinner cheese plate to be served for my breakfast. It was yummy, but my colleagues looked at me strangely. They were wolfing down noodles and the works for the egg dish.

Really appreciate the link to FRA. I'll be heading there next month for the first time. It'll really come in handy.
But I will sure not be using the LH lounge. Will be holding cattle class ticket.  Sad

Anyways, Thanks again for the TR. Can't wait for Part III
 
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RE: On My Way To Sydney And SQ380 Trip Report – Part 2

Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:38 am

Thanks for the report. I passed through FRA some months back, and wasn't too impressed with its facilities and layout. I believe things will improve once renovation works are completed.

Quoting MadameConcorde (Thread starter):
I felt free and happy as I knew I was on my way to one of the world’s most wonderful airport facilities: the Lufhansa First Class Terminal. I had spent time there before and I love the place.

LH is one of the few airlines that is offering a dedicated FCL facilities for its premium passenger. The other airport/airline offering such a service is QR in Doha. I was told that SQ had initially wanted to do the same in T3, but this was rejected by CAAS for reasons beyond me.

A rather similar facility is available at Changi nevertheless - JetQuay. I had the privilege of touring this facility yesterday, and I must say that it is indeed a 5 star CIP facility. The only difference is that JetQuay is open to anyone who wants to pay for the exclusivity regardless of what class he/she is traveling in. It is open to passengers traveling on any airline as well.

There is a wide range of facilities as well - from luxurious and comfortable nap rooms, to a gym/spa overlooking a garden, to bathrooms stocked with Molton Brown toileteries.

Passengers can choose to be buggied to their gates from the CIP lounge, or hop onto a Mercedes Benz limousine to be ferried directly to the aircraft. Very similar to what LH's FCL Terminal has to offer.

I was offered a complimentary use of this facility the next time I travel, and I intend to use it on my upcoming trip to KIX!  

[Edited 2007-11-07 03:46:10]
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RE: On My Way To Sydney And SQ380 Trip Report – Part 2

Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:49 am

Bonjour MadameConcorde!!!

Thank you for taking the time to display such wonderful memoirs of your trip! The trip report is well-written and quite thorough. I look forward to reading the entire series of your truly amazing journey!!!

On a side note, with your trip report, combined with other members' positive experiences on Austrian Airlines, SIA, and Thai, I am tempted in some ways to switch from Skyteam to Star Alliance. I am an avid fan of Air France and your trip report has really questioned my loyalty to Skyteam. I am just torn  Smile

Merci et cordialement,

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RE: On My Way To Sydney And SQ380 Trip Report – Part 2

Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:12 pm

Thank you all very much for your kind comments. Please give me some time and you will have the rest of the trip!

This takes time. Have to download the pictures to the host site, rewrite and type up the original report I did on paper, choose the appropriate pictures and see that everything looks right.

My absolute dream would be to do a report of a trip to Space complete with Soyuz flight and stay in the ISS.
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RE: On My Way To Sydney And SQ380 Trip Report – Part 2

Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:56 pm

What an exceptional trip report. A pleasure to read, and the pictures are fantastic!

I have a new goal in life: must visit that LH F lounge in FRA one day! Amazing!

Looking forward to reading the rest of the report...
 
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RE: On My Way To Sydney And SQ380 Trip Report – Part 2

Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:14 pm

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 13):
I have a new goal in life: must visit that LH F lounge in FRA one day! Amazing!

Then you better turn off your PC forever and start saving...  Wink But, I agree. I've yet to see a more temtingly exclusive location at any airport. Provide some airside views and I'm ready.
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RE: On My Way To Sydney And SQ380 Trip Report – Part 2

Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:52 pm

Your reports are amazing, still waiting for the SQ 380 flight

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RE: On My Way To Sydney And SQ380 Trip Report – Part 2

Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:51 pm

Merci Madame pour ce très intéressant rapport de séjour. I will most definitely have to try the FCT at Frankfurt, for it looks simply amazing. The seats at LH's First Class, on the other hand, don't seem to be really appealing, especially if you compare them with the ones other airlines are currently offering. I'm eagerly waiting for part no. 3!  Smile

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RE: On My Way To Sydney And SQ380 Trip Report – Part 2

Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:14 pm

Good day MadameConcorde,

First of all I hope you are in well condition. What I think is so special about this trip report is the photos inside the LH's FCT. If I could recall, from a few trip reports which I have read here, they forbit any phototaking while inside the terminal. I am so surprise you managed to snap even the staff who manned it. Have they relax the rules?
 
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RE: On My Way To Sydney And SQ380 Trip Report – Part 2

Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:18 pm

Quoting MadameConcorde (Thread starter):
The Frankfurt FCT is an experience by itself. The First Class lounges can be used as both departures and arrivals lounges for passengers travelling with Luthansa First Class. A truly wonderful place away from the hustle and bustle of Frankfurt airport. A whole report could be written for it alone.

- Looks just fantastic!

Look forward to part 3.

Regards

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RE: On My Way To Sydney And SQ380 Trip Report – Pa

Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:40 pm

Thank you for posting part 1 and 2 of your trip. It was a pleasure to read it and to see all the photos you took. They are very detailed. I always enjoy that. Sometimes I'm a bit too shy to take photos in lounges and in the aircraft, especially of the food. I hope, I'm brave enough to take some pics on my trip to JFK on friday.

I'm looking forward to your next part of your trip.

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RE: On My Way To Sydney And SQ380 Trip Report – Part 2

Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:23 pm

Thank you very much for posting such a great Trip Report. I can't wait to see Part 3!! The Lufthansa lounge looks absolutely amazing!

Many thanks,
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RE: On My Way To Sydney And SQ380 Trip Report – Part 2

Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:32 pm

This was a pleasure to read--I could really tell that you were enjoying yourself! I'm looking forward to part 3!
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RE: On My Way To Sydney And SQ380 Trip Report – Part 2

Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:57 pm

Bonsoir, Madame Concorde,

another very special, detailed and interesting read about your latest travel experiences.
The LH first class terminal is fore sure not that much covered here with reports.

Don´t hurry with your next part, I will wait for it.
As you also said during your last story: There is sometimes, something else around
beneath travelling and sharing it with all the interested people here  Smile .

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RE: On My Way To Sydney And SQ380 Trip Report – Part 2

Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:48 pm

MadameConcorde,

I have some pictures of you cutting the cake. There's a link to my email address on my profile.

Looking forward to the next trip report!
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RE: On My Way To Sydney And SQ380 Trip Report – Part 2

Thu Nov 08, 2007 5:08 pm

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 12):
Please give me some time and you will have the rest of the trip!

Bonjour MadameConcorde,

If the whole report is going to look the way it is looking till now you can take the time you want or need...
By looking your pic of Monaco I remember when I had the luck of going there (A lot of years ago).

Hope you are Ok,

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RE: On My Way To Sydney And SQ380 Trip Report – Part 2

Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:41 am

Ah Madame, what an illuminating description of Stage 2 of the trip that we have discussed on the telephone.

Having been a Pilot on long haul flights, and being in full agreement with you about the 744 being a bit louder then many other choices, I might suggest for the future a compact Walkman or IPod with some of the new noise cancelling ear bud that are not cumbersome, and perhaps tapes or CD's like I use, which are an assortment of sounds of nature such as rain, wind, waterfalls, etc. Or some people enjoy Audio books, some topics are definitely good as "sleeping meds," and finally I someitmes enjoy some orchestral, which I find very soothing.
Fortunately I've never had a problem sleeping on an airplane, or in a car for that matter. Let the vehicle move, and my eyes close.

We have different opinions of the Frankfurt Airport. I have never had the opportunity to see the lovely facility of Luftansa's at Frankfurt, but the airport itself to me, is the most frightening airport in the world. I've never seen such crowds, and such an diverse array of people from such varied parts of the planet.

Frankfurt to Europe is like Atlanta is to the United States. The joke in America is that if you are going to travel from coast to coast, somehow you will end up traversing Atlanta. I've overheard conversations at the Frankfurt Airport over the years between individuals just passing through that would frighten the most seasoned traveller.

But I must say that if I had the opportunity to enjoy Frankfurt's First Class Lufthansa facility, I would certainly jump at the chance. Perhaps one day..

Well now I am eager to hear about Chapter 3. If it were me, I'd try to set my computer in such a way that I could sit, and continue to enjoy your wonderful view, which I am very envious of, as I sit here in my desert looking at my cactus,
and I'd type glancing out as often as possible.

Thank you for the first two chapters/installments of this wonderful story.
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RE: On My Way To Sydney And SQ380 Trip Report – Part 2

Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:37 am

Thank you all for your kind comments. I am working on part 3. I want it to look right. I am not an English native speaker so it takes me extra time to make sure that everything is correct.

Also I have a very slow old computer which I am planning to keep for as long as it will run. Big grin

Welcome to A.net Mike!  veryhappy 

I hope you will enjoy being a member here  airplane  and you will become an active participant on the forums.  goodvibes 
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