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ALB-PHL-LGW On US Lotss Of Pics!

Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:25 pm

My first TR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Date Aug 13 & Aug 23

Aircraft E175-A333-A333-CR2

I arrived at the ALB to find my flight delayed, UGHHHHH!!!!!!!!! If only they didnt close the US Club, I could go get a drink.

I couldn't get a pic of the new E175 in new colors cause my batteries were broke but, 15 min late dept. same republic airlines boarding music, same safety recording, but no service. They applogized with there complments. But yet, an off duty flight attendent helped her self to coffee. She is not a flight attendent, yet a passenger. It is unfair to me to offer her beverages.

Flight:3265
Time 52 mins.
Meal-NONE!! =(


I arrived in PHL, to find that my flight to LGW was delayed for 30 mins because maitnacnce was changing cockpit computers. 30 mins went up to 45 mins than down to 25 mins. I got some batteries for my camera, and a magazine.


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We finnally boarded and were welcomed with helpful FA'S. It took like an hour for every-one to board. Loads were 100%. Flight time was 6hr 52 min. Can you believe they made me pay 5$ for heaphones? Not only that but my PTV was not working =( Dinner soon came around after that. Choice of meal was Pasta Putnesca or a Beef Brisket. Pasta was very tasty!!!!! =) Since I couldnt watch TV, I decided to sleep, but then I remembered that i sleep on my belly.



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Since I couldnt sleep, I moved up to the bulkhead as the PTV was working up there. After lying awake for hours, the crew came around with the "sunshine service'' which was supposed to be a light breakfast, but really only was a doughnut. The lady next to me slipped my coffee, so I had coffee smelling plants.
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After that we shortly had landed.

Flight Experience-7

Service-9

Overall, this was a very delightful flight except for my tv and breakfast. The crew was so kind, and dinner was good.


I'll be posting my next report soon.


Cheers

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Sat Nov 17, 2007 6:27 pm

sorry that theres only one pic, but my membership only has a limited MB, so I deleted the pics after, thinking they would stay.
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Sat Nov 17, 2007 8:05 pm

Interesting start as a 1st TR, a little more detail certainly helps us imagine travelling with you.

Quoting USAirALB (Thread starter):
my batteries were broke

- Do you mean dead?

Quoting USAirALB (Thread starter):
an off duty flight attendent helped her self to coffee. She is not a flight attendent, yet a passenger. It is unfair to me to offer her beverages.

- Agreed, quite poor though I have seen this several times when travelling within the states.

Quoting USAirALB (Thread starter):
The lady next to me slipped my coffee, so I had coffee smelling plants.

- Do you mean spilt & pants?

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RE: ALB-PHL-LGW On US Lotss Of Pics!

Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:02 pm



Quoting USAirALB (Thread starter):
Loads were 100%



Quoting USAirALB (Thread starter):
I moved up to the bulkhead as the PTV was working up there.

Anyone else see something wrong with this?
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Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:04 pm



Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 2):
- Agreed, quite poor though I have seen this several times when travelling within the states.

PHL-ALB is a no-service route, per USAirways, not Republic. Also, I always take care of off-duty crew members commuting to/from work/vacation. If we don't take care of each other - nobody else will. Unless it was unsafe for the flight attendants working the flight to offer a service - their announcement should have included "beverages will be served by request" - meaning its up to you to make your desire for a beverage known. And if you do not, you cannot hold that against the flight attendants or the company.

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Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:44 am

um, not to sound critical, but since when does any airline charge for headphones on an intl flight? every intl flight i've ever been on, they're free, is US different?
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Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:45 am



Quoting SafetyDemo (Reply 4):
PHL-ALB is a no-service route, per USAirways, not Republic. Also, I always take care of off-duty crew members commuting to/from work/vacation. If we don't take care of each other - nobody else will.

Well that is a nice gesture though it is a slap in the face to paying passengers. After all without paying passengers they would be no commuting crew members.
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Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:56 am



Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 6):
After all without paying passengers they would be no commuting crew members.

I don't think its a slap in the face to anyone. The flight is no-service. It says so when you book your ticket. They'll tell you when you check-in. No one is going to make me feel bad for taking care of a coworker. I'm sure you would do the same. Like I said, the announcement made inflight instructs passengers to inform the crewmember of their desire for a beverage. I take care of any and all passengers who ask me for something. I even walk through the cabin multiple times no matter how short the flight. Unfortunately, its just not possible to serve 86 people on a 25 minute flight.
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Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:14 am

Interesting first TR.

Quoting USAirALB (Thread starter):
, I moved up to the bulkhead as the PTV was working up there.

How could you do that when the load factor was 100%???

Thank you for sharing.

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Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:34 pm



Quoting SafetyDemo (Reply 4):
PHL-ALB is a no-service route



no its not, it depends what kind of aircraft your on. If your plane has less than 70 pax its likely that they'll be service. When I was comming home, they offered soda and pretzels. In 01, I flew the route on a 734, and they provided service. Now if you fly the route on mainline, its very unlikely that there will be service.
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Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:02 pm



Quoting USAirALB (Reply 9):
In 01, I flew the route on a 734, and they provided service.

2001 vs 2007 will have seen significant change in service (especially since US was bankrupt twice between the periods). That's not a good comparison.
 
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Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:13 am



Quoting USAirALB (Reply 9):



Quoting B747forever (Reply 8):
Quoting USAirALB (Thread starter):
, I moved up to the bulkhead as the PTV was working up there.

How could you do that when the load factor was 100%???

Care to answer?
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Mon Nov 19, 2007 4:50 am

Republic runs it as a no service route if I am not mistaken due to stage length. LGA-PHL is the same way. So are many other routes like some of ours out of CLT. Some of the inter Carolina services are "by request only".
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Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:08 pm



Quoting SafetyDemo (Reply 7):
No one is going to make me feel bad for taking care of a coworker. I'm sure you would do the same.

If we're honest with ourselves, I think most of us in any industry would. But, it LOOKS different if the co worker is out of uniform. In that case, it appears as service to a pax.

Second, as to beverage, it is possible the FA simply forgot to read the "ask for beverage" notice. People do make mistakes. It could be as simple as that.

And this is a short flight.

I once saw an AA flight DFW -- Santiago Chile......BEV ONLY main cabin (left I think 9 pm, arrive next AM......no b'fast)

That is sad service.

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Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:34 pm

Good first trip report. Would like to see more (info and pics - although you're excused this time  Wink with your battery dilemma).

Quoting SafetyDemo (Reply 7):
Unfortunately, its just not possible to serve 86 people on a 25 minute flight.

Sure it is. We served 216 people in 33 minutes 4 weeks ago (IAH-SAT). We used to serve meals in first and coach along with beverages for 141 people in 24 minutes (EWR-BOS/BOS-EWR).

Personally, the

Quoting SafetyDemo (Reply 4):
"beverages will be served by request"

seems lazy, but that is me.
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Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:04 pm



Quoting SafetyDemo (Reply 7):
Unfortunately, its just not possible to serve 86 people on a 25 minute flight.

Nonsense......Domestic India 9W serves a meat or vegan FULL MEAL, pre take off drink, and 2 coffee runs on a 738 100% full.....and yes, that was in Y.

Kingisher gave a hot meal on a 45 min flight w/ double drink runs.

On 25 min flights, we got a drink service.

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 14):
We served 216 people in 33 minutes 4 weeks ago (IAH-SAT).

I've been on this flight, and this is a true statement.

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Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:53 am



Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 14):
Sure it is. We served 216 people in 33 minutes 4 weeks ago (IAH-SAT). We used to serve meals in first and coach along with beverages for 141 people in 24 minutes (EWR-BOS/BOS-EWR).

And that is why I'm a proud Onepass member. No offence to RW or US implied


USAirAlb great first report.
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Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:48 pm



Quoting Bok269 (Reply 16):
And that is why I'm a proud Onepass member. No offence to RW or US implied


USAirAlb great first report.

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Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:48 pm



Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 14):
Sure it is. We served 216 people in 33 minutes 4 weeks ago (IAH-SAT). We used to serve meals in first and coach along with beverages for 141 people in 24 minutes (EWR-BOS/BOS-EWR).



Quoting Davescj (Reply 15):
Nonsense......Domestic India 9W serves a meat or vegan FULL MEAL, pre take off drink, and 2 coffee runs on a 738 100% full.....and yes, that was in Y.

Kingisher gave a hot meal on a 45 min flight w/ double drink runs.

On 25 min flights, we got a drink service.

Well, lets discuss the 25 minutes of "air-time". At least 15 minutes of that flight is conducted below 10,000 feet. Both flight attendants must remain seated, per FARs. In the 10 minute above 10,000 feet (if we even break it - which we rarely do on some of those shorter flights within the Carolina's mentioned above) you have to set up a cart, get it into the cabin, and begin serving.

First, and foremost, our service standards are handed down to us from USAirways. They set the guidelines. Second, on SOR flights, which PHL-ALB is, we don't even get catered. Half of the time, there isnt even ice onboard the aircraft. You can't provide a beverage service without catering! Further, there isn't time *after* the service to restock and clean up the cart so you can provide the same service on the return leg.

If I could do a service on every flight, I would. And I am not a lazy flight attendant, either, by not providing one. I follow the guidelines set forth by my company on each and every leg. And I am actually quite adimant about providing service when service is due (because their are far too many flight attendants out there who would rather stay seated from PHL-PIT rather than perform a limited beverage service).

The flight attendants working your flight from ALB did nothing wrong, unless they didn't make the part of the announcement about requesting a beverage - which the OP has yet to discuss with us.

And EWRCabinCrew - how many FAs are on your plane? The more hands, the lighter the work. Just curious.

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Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:15 pm



Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 14):
We used to serve meals in first and coach along with beverages for 141 people in 24 minutes (EWR-BOS/BOS-EWR).

3 flight attendants. 1 for first class (14 people) and 2 for coach (127 people (1:63.5)).

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 14):
We served 216 people in 33 minutes 4 weeks ago (IAH-SAT).

5 flight attendants (2 for first class (1:12), 3 for coach (1:64)).

Quoting SafetyDemo (Reply 18):
The more hands, the lighter the work.

A given.

Quoting SafetyDemo (Reply 18):
Both flight attendants must remain seated, per FARs.

Which FAR?

Quoting SafetyDemo (Reply 18):
I am not a lazy flight attendant, either, by not providing one.

No implication that you are. But I still say that "beverages served by request" is lazy. To me, this means, no one is asking, so a service will not be done. No matter how many flight attendants there are. Again, just me. You still try.

[quote=SafetyDemo,reply=18]Further, there isn't time *after* the service to restock and clean up the cart so you can provide the same service on the return leg.[/quote

Ground time.

Our service standards are just different. That is all. Different. Not better, not worse, just different. Our service standards are any flight :30 or more scheduled flight time gets a beverage service.

Very humble apologies to USAirALB for side-tracking things here. The banter not related to your post should be moved to another thread.
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Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:25 pm



Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 19):
Our service standards are just different. That is all. Different. Not better, not worse, just different. Our service standards are any flight :30 or more scheduled flight time gets a beverage service.

Okay. So the flight we're discussing doesn't even apply! We don't do service-standards by flight-time at my airline. It is all based on mileage. Six of one, a half dozen of the other.

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Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:52 pm



Quoting SafetyDemo (Reply 7):
I don't think its a slap in the face to anyone. The flight is no-service

Even DTW-GRR on NW is a limited service route......
 
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Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:39 pm

how can i make most of my pics come upbeat
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