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On The Alitalia-Crew-Shuttle To Roma!

Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:01 pm

On the Alitalia-Crew-Shuttle to Roma


Hello, dear readers,


welcome to my premiere story 2008.
Nearly two months with biz travel only, far enough
time for another leisure ride.
I was in Rome for several times before, but never visited the Vatican Museums.
Therefore I´ve researched the web and recognized that January is the month with the lowest visitor numbers.
So, we will see if it´s true!


(1.)
Thursday, 31.01.2008
STR (Stuttgart-Echterdingen) - MXP (Milan-Malpensa)
Duration: 55 minutes

Service Alitalia AZ 449 operated by Alitalia Express EMB-145 I-EXML
Scheduled: 07.10 // 08.15
Actual: 07.50 // 08.45
Gate: 331 Seat: 10A
Loadfactor: Near 100%
Fare: 37,51 EUR per leg

History:
08.05.2003: Delivered to AZ Express

Flight no.7 on the EMB145 and the first on this machine

The wheather forecast for Rome was ok, temperature around 15 degrees, partly cloudy, my departure airport shows some
freezy snow showers, I´ve do not check Milano, my connecting airport, it seems a mistake this time.
Online check-in for AZ flights from Germany was only possible from FRA and TXL, that means an earlier ride to STR
to secure good seats.
At the airport around 06.00 am, more than an hour till departure.
Two counters open, only one other pax in front.
The nice girl there checked me in as pax no. 15 for the first flight of the day, generously I´ve told her that the exit seat
will be no problem for me!. Fixed. She also gave me the boarding pass for flight no. 2, no. 3 and no. 4 was not possible.
No time to wait at T3 security, some walking around and at the boarding gate, Terminal 3 on the upper level at around 06.40 am,
the scheduled boarding time. Boarding started finally late at around 07.00 am, down the stairs to the groundlevel.
From my own experiences, the first flight of the aircraft today, late boarding, more time wo wait in the bus, that seems like a problem.

STR, early morning:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/FCO08/FCO08001.jpg

Close up:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/FCO08/FCO08003.jpg

Immediatelly after I´ve settled down in my seat, the Captain was on the speakers, the cockpit crew was Italian and told us
a long and detailed story in italian. From my low italian knowledge, I´ve understand "nebbia" (fog), holding at Malpensa, 20 "minuti" (minutes).
He told us in english that there was heavy fog at Malpensa, the airport was open, but with limited operations and we had to wait for two
hours till departure. The mostly german pax are not amused. 20 minutes or two hours?. Somewhat important around my trip today.
Around 25 minutes later, he was again on the phone and told us that we will go for departure immediatelly.
We taxied down to the entrance for runway 25. No deicing, or the plane was earlier deiced.
There is a small platform where the two taxiways merged near the entrance, we nearly turned around, breaks set, engines spooled up.
Nice, so I´ve thought, my first experience around a departure from the taxiway!.
I´am not sure about it, but I think they need more hot air from the engines to secure the wings from icing.
After two or three minutes we turned around again, entered the runway and departed without another stop.
The route lead us over ZRH directly to Malpensa. No more informations from the flightdeck.
The flight itself was calm. Only some mountain peaks above the clouds.

Sea of clouds:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/FCO08/FCO08004.jpg

One very friendly, ever smiling middle aged female does the service, good job.
The plane fitted with bright grey leather seats, clean, but well used.
Newspapers, a snack and free drinks.
We glided down in the clouds, nothing to see, the captain announced five minutes till touchdown, nothing to see at all.
And only seconds before we reached the ground was the runway visible, nothing else, no airport-lights or else.
According to the signs, it was runway 35L. The FA announced 8.45 am, 30 minutes till my next flight.

Foggy Malpensa:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/FCO08/FCO08006.jpg

No. 700:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/FCO08/FCO08008.jpg

Deboarding by bus and a slowly drive to the terminal.
A quick view to the monitors, will I catch my connecting flight?.
Boarding was announced on the screens and it was not my first time at MXP, no running, ok I´ve walked faster than usual.
Up the stairs, around the corner, the next stairs down and I was one of the last to board the flight.



(2.)
Thursday, 31.01.2008
MXP (Milan-Malpensa) - FCO (Rome-Fiumicino/Leonardo da Vinci)
Duration: 1 hour

Service Alitalia AZ 1027 operated by A321 I-BIXI
Scheduled: 09.15 // 10.35
Actual: 09.50 // 10.50
Gate: A 53 Seat: 26D changed to 26F
Loadfactor: Around 80%

History:
07.06.1994: Delivered to AZ

Flight no.9 on the A321 and the first on this machine

Boarding was done by bus, one or two other's operated earlier.
What me really surprised was the load in my bus and later also in the plane.
It seems these flights are operated as crew shuttles with some spare seats for regular pax.
Its free till now for AZ crew to proceed between FCO and MXP.
We are some 30 to 40 pax in the bus and only four or five regulars between me.
The same in the bus beneath.

Boarding I-BIXI, note the tapes:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/FCO08/FCO08009.jpg

And again:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/FCO08/FCO08010.jpg

I had sequence no. 128, no window seats left = 26D.
E and F remained empty, IMO some pax missed their connections from delayed incoming flights.
So I´ve changed to 26F. Not the best decision today, more later.
Two male, two female FA´s, all friendly.
Also a delay on these flight according to the wheather conditions.
The machine fitted with green fabric seat´s. Not in the best conditions, well used.
It was not possible to fix my seat in the upright position.
Departure from runway 35R in direction Parma/Florence to Rome.
Again free snacks and beverages on offer.
Absolutely no comments from the cockpit around the whole flight.
The FA´s placed an Indian women at 26D, it seems she had some problems.
Let me say, I will decline flying if that experience happens more often to me, she puked two times inflight
and once more on the ground at FCO while we waited for deboarding, poor lady.
But, also these situation survived without further problems till now.
Calm flight. Touchdown on runway 16L with some 15 minutes delay.

El Al operated by North American Airlines:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/FCO08/FCO08011.jpg

Departure Brussels Airlines:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/FCO08/FCO08013.jpg

Air Italy B767:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/FCO08/FCO08014.jpg

I-BIXI at the gate:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/FCO08/FCO08015.jpg

Docked at a finger gate at the non schengen area, that means through the finger and down the stairs where a bus waited
and drove us to the Schengen arrivals.
Only some minutes later I´ve entered the train station, where the next train to the city, not the expensive Lenaordo Express,
departed soon.
Changed to the subway at Roma-Tuscolana and was at the museums entrance only a bit later than expected.
The information was not bad, no time to wait at the cashier, not that much visitors, no time to wait for entrance to the
Capella Sistina. All in all an impressive and highly recommendable experience for all of us with some interests in culture.

Some impressions:

At the entrance:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/FCO08/FCO08016.jpg

Up the stairs:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/FCO08/FCO08017.jpg

Impressive:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/FCO08/FCO08034.jpg

Once more:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/FCO08/FCO08019.jpg

And finally:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/FCO08/FCO08031.jpg

The same way back to the airport later.


3.)
Thursday, 31.01.2008
FCO (Rome-Fiumicino/Leonardo da Vinci) - MXP (Milano-Malpensa)
Duration: 1 hour

Service Alitalia AZ 1046 operated by MD82 I-DATF
Scheduled: 16.15 // 17.35
Actual: 17.00 // 18.00
Gate: B06 Seat: 32L
Loadfactor: 100%

History:
02.06.1994: Delivered to AZ

Flight no. 7 on the MD82 and the first on this machine

Back at FCO a bit short, at around 3.15 pm, one hour prior to departure and I was not checked in.
I´ve decided to use the self service machines, entered my ticket number and name and secured
with sequence no. 125 the last window seat with a real window view directly beneath the engine.
Only some minutes at the security and at the gate with time enought prior to boarding.
A real finger gate this time.
Three male, one female as FA´s, ok, but not especially friendly.
These plane was fitted with oldfashioned spacious fabric seats, comfortable. The best impression
till now today.
Have a look at the delivery dates from I-BIXI above and I-DATF and think about it, when you speak the next time
about oldie style planes.
Detailed informations from the captain during boarding.

Engine seat, towing I-BIXI:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/FCO08/FCO08038.jpg

IMO the flight was overbooked and they had to secure the checked bags of the volunteers, it needs some time
to identifiy and offload it.
Departure from runway 25, we entered at the shorter entrance, taken over some other waiting planes.
Real powerful, I like these MD´s.
More detailed informations from the FO inflight.
Again snacks and beverages for free.
We´re cruising along the coastline northernbound at 26.000 feet.

Coastline:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/FCO08/FCO08039.jpg

Arrival at MXP again on runway 35L another calm flight.
Not that much pix from these flight. The plane was not visible from the Terminal at FCO and a nice AZ FA seated next to me
was not happy with me doing photos. But we had a nice conversation inflight, so it was acceptable.
Again lots of AZ staff on these service.
The captain thanked us for flying AZ in a friendly way on the ground at MXP and was at the door during finger deboarding.
So a good chance to catch a "office" pic.

I-DATF:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/FCO08/FCO08040.jpg

Two hours to go at nightly MXP now.


4.)
Thursday, 31.01.2008
MXP (Milan-Malpensa) - STR (Stuttgaart-Echterdingen)
Duration: 55 minutes

Service Alitalia AZ 452 operated by Alitalia Express EMB-145 I-EXME
Scheduled: 20.25 // 21.30
Actual: 20.35 // 21.30
Gate: A26 Seat: 14A
Loadfactor: Near 100%

History:
30.06.2000: Delivered to AZ Express

Flight no. 8 on the E-145 and the first on this machine

Not that much to do or view there, so I walked a bit around and was back at the gate ontime for another late boarding.
The morning delays running around the whole day.
Bus boarding again. Sequence no. 10.
Another new EMB-145 for my log.

Nightly boarding at MXP:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/FCO08/FCO08041.jpg

One friendly female welcomed me.
These plane was also fitted with the bright grey leather seats, but seems overall in better conditions than I-EXML.
The captain welcomed us after boarding and explained the delay with the holding operations at MXP today, as expected.
Departure from runway 35 R, no more inflight informations.
These time a real tasty sandwich, a carpaccio tramezzini, delicious, and free drinks.
Approach into STR was great, nightly, clear sky, we´re passing the airfield southern side on a low level, all the red flashing lights
at the Weidacher Höhe and the runway clearly visible, turned sharp into approach for 25 and landed perfectly ontime back
at cold and freezy STR airport.

Time for my opinion now:
Flying on AZ was a positive experience, away from all that Loco-style operations nowadays.
The staff was friendly, service was absolutely acceptable for me on short european flights,
delays, ok happened from time to time, but no realproblems around my schedule.
The loads are real good, how much money they´ve earned with these crew shuttle flights, I don´t know.
We will see whats going on further there with AZ, I will fly them again if it´s possible.

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Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:34 pm

Hallo Markus!

nicely written report again. You beat me with putting reports online already  Wink
First of all it's good to see that you got on the Embraer in special livery. Always nice to get of course, just a bit more special to your trip.

You booked the trip quite early I think, because the fares you've paid is a real bargain to fly on a full service airline. It's even cheaper then some loco's.

All together, I think you had a great day, with good mix of different aircraft. Good enough to start 2008 with  Smile

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Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:58 pm

Hi, Eric,

thanx for your nice reply.

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 1):
You beat me with putting reports online already

I will wait for your upcoming adventure in Spain!.

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 1):
that you got on the Embraer in special livery.

I´ve dont noticed it at STR, but finally at MXP with the better light.

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 1):
You booked the trip quite early I think, because the fares you've paid is a real bargain to fly on a full service airline. It's even cheaper then some loco's.

Booked 2 1/2 months in advance, I was also suprised when I saw that daily return fares.

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 1):
think you had a great day, with good mix of different aircraft

Definitely!.

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Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:15 pm

Hi Markus!

Nice report and really interesting pics. Did you have to pay a fee to enter the Vatican?

Quote:
FLIEGER 67:...she puked two times inflight and once more on the ground at FCO while we waited for deboarding, poor lady.

Ugh, a situation nobody of us want to be in. In november on a flight from JFK to MUC an old fearful grandma was sitting next to me and crossed oneself when the engines roared and we took off. But this was amusing me. First I had the misgiving that she would puke, too. But luckily she didn't.

Lucky you that airlines from other countries are operating STR. For me from PAD I can only fly LH. It's not bad, because I like to fly LH, but sometimes I would like to have a bigger range of flights to chose from. Years ago EW offered flights for KL from PAD to AMS. But later EW was taken over from LH and the flights to AMS were stopped  Sad

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Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:39 pm

Hi, Stefan,

thanx for your reply.

Quoting StefanPAD (Reply 3):
Did you have to pay a fee to enter the Vatican?

14.-- EURO´s, the Capella Sistina included.

Quoting StefanPAD (Reply 3):
First I had the misgiving that she would puke, too. But luckily she didn't

My level of such experiences is, for sure, filled up now!.

Quoting StefanPAD (Reply 3):
Lucky you that airlines from other countries are operating STR.

Yes, but it´s slowly going down, some airlines cancelled STR during the last two or three years
while 4U/X3 expanding. We will see what´s going on around a possible merger.

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Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:08 pm

Hi Markus,

Another quality trip report! I was already looking forward to it!
You must have had a great time in Rome! That is very high on my to do list aswell!

Do you have already a next trip planned?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Have a look at the delivery dates from I-BIXI above and I-DATF and think about it, when you speak the next time
about oldie style planes.

haha, indeed. If you see the MD's you always think they are old and worn planes, whilst the 321 is modern looking airliner.

Thanks for sharing and Gruss,

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Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:37 pm

Hi, Joost,

thanx for your nice reply.

Quoting DALCE (Reply 5):
You must have had a great time in Rome! That is very high on my to do list aswell!

For sure, it´s worth it!.

Quoting DALCE (Reply 5):
Do you have already a next trip planned?

Valencia is up on the to-do-list.
About two weeks to go for hopefully some spanish spring sunrays.

Quoting DALCE (Reply 5):
haha, indeed. If you see the MD's you always think they are old and worn planes, whilst the 321 is modern looking airliner.

I think, a lot of people cant belive that these two airliners are 14 years old!.

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Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:19 pm

Hi Markus,
I was wondering when we would see a TR from you . Again a nice read with nice photos. The Museam ceiling is amazing. I like the AZ Express Logo/Livery.


Looking forward to the next one .

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Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:33 pm

Hello, Philip,

thanx for you reply.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 7):
I was wondering when we would see a TR from you

More leisure rides will be coming up during the next months.

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Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:08 pm

well, waited for a long time, but finally another example of your trip reports.

you could say that you was onboard the 700th EMB - I-EXML, great!

you have been only to the museums or did you see some more things in Rome? I think you stay was very short, or?

FRA-MUC on LH and MAD-BCN on IB are also some other routes with a lot of crews onboard. last week I talked to a FA and she counted all the flights she was on and on duty between FRA-MUC in 2007: 57x Big grin

looking forward to your next trip. I'm not sure, but I assume that you will go to VLC and only connect in PMI? VLC is a very beautiful city.

have a good remaining weekend!
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Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:17 pm

Hi, Ori,

thanx also for your nice reply.

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 9):
you could say that you was onboard the 700th EMB - I-EXML, great!

And I´ve noticed it finally at MXP.

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 9):
you have been only to the museums or did you see some more things in Rome? I think you stay was very short, or?

Only the museums, yes short, but well worth it!.

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 9):
between FRA-MUC

So it seems that I will count another shuttle to my log, MUC-FRA on the, hopefully, A306 is scheduled
later this year.

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 9):
, but I assume that you will go to VLC and only connect in PMI?

Indeed, VLC is the target, where I´ve been at the airport, but not in the city till now.

Have a nice weekend, too,
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Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:31 pm



Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 10):
So it seems that I will count another shuttle to my log, MUC-FRA on the, hopefully, A306 is scheduled

I had even the pleasure to get the A333 on this route last Tuesday. It was a refitted one with new PTV's. Hope I'll find some time to write a TR.



Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 10):
ndeed, VLC is the target, where I´ve been at the airport, but not in the city till now.

as I said, very beautiful city. Don't miss the "Ciudad de las Artes y de las Ciencias " with it's exceptional buildings (exceptional in positive manner).
 
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Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:40 pm

Hi, Ori,

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 11):
I had even the pleasure to get the A333 on this route last Tuesday. It was a refitted one with new PTV's. Hope I'll find some time to write a TR.

I will also accept the A333, no problem
 Wink

And about the report. It seems highly interesting.

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 11):
Don't miss the "Ciudad de las Artes y de las Ciencias "

Thanx for the information.

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Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 12):
I will also accept the A333, no problem

Count me in too Big grin

And Markus,

Valencia is on our city-break planning for 2008, but no flights/hotel booked... probably we do it also during spring, or in late summer. We really want to see the nice and special architecture around this city, e.g. from Calatrava. In the city where I live now, we have 3 bridges designed by Calatrava, and these are really stunning too  Wink

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Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:35 am

Hallo Markus!

A great way to start 2008  champagne 

Having a look at the Sistine Chapel and some of the wonders contained in the Vatican Museums is always a pleasure.

I flew AZ last year and I found their level of service OK, but the planes used were quite old and look really worn inside.

Thanks again for sharing!

Enjoy your visit to València!  wave 

Salut!

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Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:28 am



Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 13):
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 12):
I will also accept the A333, no problem

Count me in too

me too Big grin
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Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:50 pm

Hi and once again thanx for all the nice replys.

Eric:

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 13):
and special architecture around this city, e.g. from Calatrava.

Same to me, I will visit that great architectural sights if the wheather will be ok, or decide for one of the museums
if it´s not.
But all in, sounds like a "worth to visit" city.


Roger:

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 14):
Having a look at the Sistine Chapel and some of the wonders contained in the Vatican Museums is always a pleasure.

For sure, it is.

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 14):
I flew AZ last year and I found their level of service OK, but the planes used were quite old and look really worn inside.

That confirms my impressions.

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 14):
Enjoy your visit to València!

Thanx, hope for some sunrays there.

Joost:

Quoting DALCE (Reply 15):


Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 13):
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 12):
I will also accept the A333, no problem

Count me in too

me too

Good news!.

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Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:13 pm

Hi Marcus,

About time we had a report from you, it's been too long you know!

Good to see a decent AZ TR and a decent mix of planes.

Looks like a decent trip with no issues.

Look forward to many more of your trips this year.

Best Wishes

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Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:55 pm

Hey, Mark,

thanx for your nice reply.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 17):
Good to see a decent AZ TR and a decent mix of planes.

We do not know, what´s going on there with AZ in the future, so very important for me,
to log it, once more.

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Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:59 am

NIce report as usual, Markus!  Smile

Fom my personal impression, as long as everything is going according to plan, AZ can be a very nice airline with some oldfashioned (in a good sense) cabin service and seat comfort.
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Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:39 pm

Hi, Jens,

nice reply, thank you.

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 19):
Fom my personal impression, as long as everything is going according to plan, AZ can be a very nice airline with some oldfashioned (in a good sense) cabin service and seat comfort.

That confirms also my impressions, if there´s nothing going wrong, strike or else, AZ is for sure not bad to fly
nowadays.

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Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:59 pm

Servus Markus,

nice report about your AZ daytrip. Good to hear about the friendly crews and the onboard service. What were the snacks like?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Let me say, I will decline flying if that experience happens more often to me, she puked two times inflight
and once more on the ground at FCO while we waited for deboarding, poor lady.

Sounds horrible - would be a nightmare on a longhaul flight.


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Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:17 pm

Hey, PH,

another nice reply, thank you.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 21):
What were the snacks like?

Biscotti in the morning, salted crackers and a tramezzini in the evening.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 21):
Sounds horrible - would be a nightmare on a longhaul flight.

True, but it was also a nightmare on "a" short haul flight!.

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Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:51 pm

Hi Markus,

nice to see one of your trip reports again - I enjoyed reading it!

Referring to my own recent AZ-experience in November, I totally agree with you about the all in all quite good quality of service.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The loads are real good, how much money they´ve earned with these crew shuttle flights, I don´t know.

I find this really amazing, a flight with a majority of the passengers being crew members. And this happens probably every day. An operation like this can't be really profitable. OK, as Stylo777 pointed out, other airlines also have "crew shuttle routes". However, I think the number of paying passengers should at least be above the number of crew members...

I also visited the Vatican Museum in 2004 and have to say it was really impressive.

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Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:26 pm

Hello, Christoph,

thanx for your nice reply.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 23):
Referring to my own recent AZ-experience in November, I totally agree with you about the all in all quite good quality of service.

I remember your trip to VCE, interesting aircraft all around.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 23):
other airlines also have "crew shuttle routes". However, I think the number of paying passengers should at least be above the number of crew members...

I think about several flights in the past, crew members on proceedings, but not in that heavy case such on these AZ flights!.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 23):
I also visited the Vatican Museum in 2004 and have to say it was really impressive.

Thanx for the confirmation!

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RE: On The Alitalia-Crew-Shuttle To Roma!

Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:03 pm

Hello, once again,

I was once more positive satisfied with AZ, when I´ve checked my Flying Blue account
some minutes ago.

They´ve payed 2.500 miles for this trip.
Remember a one-way/one-stop Skyteam flight,
for example TLS-LYS-STR is bookable for 10.000 miles.

Much better than Star A. or else.

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Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:07 pm

Great TR

The pics are really good.

Would love to visit Roma, hopefully one day!!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 25):
They´ve payed 2.500 miles for this trip.

How great!!!


Thank you for sharing

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Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:06 pm

Hello, Gabriel,

another nice rely, thank you.

Quoting B747forever (Reply 26):
Would love to visit Roma, hopefully one day!!

I recommend ASAP.

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Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:21 pm

Hello Markus,

Thanks for sharing! I'm still looking for a chance to fly Alitalia, but usually I'm stuck with Air Berlin or TUIfly when flying to Italy... That's why it's nice to read your experience with them...
 
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Fri Feb 08, 2008 7:31 pm

Hello, Frederic,

thanx for your reply.

Flying he classics is always my first intention, as long as it´s possible, especially on Alitalia.

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Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:43 pm

Hello Markus,

Great to see another report...i was getting withdrawal symptoms  Wink

Seems you were lucky once again with the delay not being too bad in the end. Nice to read about Alitalia too.

Happy flying
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Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:02 pm

Hello, Infodesk,

thanx for your nice reply.

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 30):
i was getting withdrawal symptoms

I will do my best that this will be never happen again
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Quoting Infodesk (Reply 30):
with the delay not being too bad in the end

Yes, not a real problem at all.

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RE: On The Alitalia-Crew-Shuttle To Roma!

Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:42 pm

Hi Markus,

so here you're back with another report, and once again a very nice one. I could hardly believe that both your MD-80 and A321 are 1994-models - what on earth made AZ buy new MD-80s when they were just about to change their fleet to A320-series?! Anyway, this unusual decission meant a nice MD-80 ride for you, so who would complain Big grin

Have a nice weekend, Alex.
 
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RE: On The Alitalia-Crew-Shuttle To Roma!

Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:04 pm

Hi, Alex,

another nice reply, thank you.

Quoting Ndebele (Reply 32):
could hardly believe that both your MD-80 and A321 are 1994-models - what on earth made AZ buy new MD-80s when they were just about to change their fleet to A320-series?! Anyway, this unusual decission meant a nice MD-80 ride for you, so who would complain

I was also surprised, when I´ve checked the dates of the planes, after I´ve returned home.
Checked the date´s twice, but definitely around the same age.
So, it´s AZ at all, we never know there thoughts behind the decision.
And, let me say, some more MD rides will be nice against the Airbus series.

Have a nice weekend, too,
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