dtwclipper
Posts: 6668
Joined: Wed Oct 29, 2003 3:17 am

KL MUC AMS, NW AMS-DTW In WBC With Pics

Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:28 am

Here is the continuation of this report
DTW-CDG In WBC W/ Pics (by Dtwclipper Jan 31 2008 in Trip Reports)


We arrived for our four days in Vienna and checked into the Radisson Palais hotel. We were very pleasantly surprised to find that we had been upgraded to a duplex suite.

We did a little sightseeing, Schoenbrun here:
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/dtwclipper/02-01-2008-101.jpg
The city in preparation for the Opera Ball:
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/dtwclipper/01-31-2008-070.jpg
We took in three operas, two at the Volksoper and one at the Wiener Staatsoper:

It was an incredible performance! We saw L'elisir d'amore at the Staatsoper and Orpheus in der Unterwelt and Hoffmanns Erzählungen at the Volksoper. The only big mistake we made is booking tickets for the night we arrived. We could hardly keep our eyes open the first night at the Volksoper.

From Vienna we headed by train to Innsbruck and then made a quick change for the trip to the Dolomites for skiing.

On the Seiser Alm we hooked up with some friends of ours from Milan.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/dtwclipper/02-06-2008-216.jpg
Next day we headed up to the Plose at about 3000 m.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/dtwclipper/02-09-2008-264.jpg
Back in Kastelruth we spent a day on the Marinzen Piste:

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/dtwclipper/02-10-2008-326.jpg

How about some fireworks from our hotel:
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/dtwclipper/02-11-2008-341.jpg
After ten days on the slopes we headed back to Munich to see family.

Date: Thursday, February 14 Flight: NW 8720/*KL 1794
Departs: Munich, Germany (MUC) at 11:50AM
Arrives: Amsterdam-Schiphol, Netherlands (AMS) at 1:40PM
Class of Service: Business Class (D) Seat: not assigned
Flight Duration: 1 hour 50 minutes Approximate Miles: 412
Meal Service: None Aircraft: 100
Note: *Operated by KLM CITYHOPPER/KLM
A/C: PH-OFM
We arrived at MUC about two hours before our scheduled departure time at the “C” section of the airport. Check in at the AF KL business Class was not the most pleasant experience. We got into a little tiff over the excess baggage limits on NW and the agent was getting ready to charge me an extra 130 Euros. After a phone call to her supervisor she let our items on board with no charge. We then headed over to the AF lounge. The place looked a little tired, but had the basics.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/dtwclipper/02-14-2008-377.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/dtwclipper/02-14-2008-380.jpg

Sadly the weather in MUC was not going to co-operate on this morning and we had some heavy fog. The inbound A/C PH-OFM was holding over Bavaria and landed almost an hour late.

View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Gerry Stegmeier


This caused us a little concern as our generous connection in AMS was slowly becoming very tight. My only complaint about MUC is the V.A.T tax return office. I had to exit security and go to another section to get the tax return, but with the value of the Euro to the Dollar it made me feel a little be better about the money we spent!
We left about an hour and a half late. We had 3 A&B for the short flight over to AMS
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/dtwclipper/02-14-2008-383.jpg
A couple of shots from the A/C
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/dtwclipper/02-14-2008-384.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/dtwclipper/02-14-2008-387.jpg

A light lunch of Chicken w/ couscous and a raspberry chocolate something?
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/dtwclipper/02-14-2008-389.jpg
A fine vintage Coke Zero!
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/dtwclipper/02-14-2008-391.jpg
Arrival in AMS:
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/dtwclipper/02-14-2008-400.jpg
We didn’t have much time in AMS to get over to the E concourse for our flight to DTW. To be honest it was a sprint! No time to spend shopping.

Date: Thursday, February 14 Flight: NW 53
Departs: Amsterdam-Schiphol, Netherlands (AMS) at 3:40PM
Arrives: Detroit-Wayne County Int'l, MI (DTW) at 6:40PM
Class of Service: World Business Class (D) Seat: 01-A Window, 01-B Aisle
Flight Duration: 9 hours Approximate Miles: 3,920
Meal Service: Dinner Aircraft: Airbus A330-200

After a hectic run through AMS we got to the gate and went through the standard security procedures. Since we were so late to the gate there was no line and we got right on board. We made a sharp left turn at L2 and headed straight up to 1A & B.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/dtwclipper/02-14-2008-401.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/dtwclipper/02-14-2008-403.jpg
WBC was about 50% full with plenty of overhead space in spite of our late arrival at the gate.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/dtwclipper/02-14-2008-404.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/dtwclipper/02-14-2008-406-1.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/dtwclipper/02-14-2008-407.jpg
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/dtwclipper/02-14-2008-408.jpg

I have to say that the Purser and Crew on this flight were just great. They really went out of their way to make our trip great! I wrote NW this morning to let them know what great service we had. We had a chance to talk with the purser and he slipped us a bottle of Champaign to celebrate valentine’s day when we got home!

Dinner:
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/dtwclipper/02-14-2008-409.jpg


Salad of Mixed Greens
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/dtwclipper/02-14-2008-410.jpg
Appetizer of smoked chicken breast, goat cheese, roasted tomatoes with balsamic dressing
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/dtwclipper/02-14-2008-412.jpg

I had the Chicken Breast in a piccata sauce with fettuccine noodles and spinach

For dessert I had the Ice Cream sundae.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/dtwclipper/02-14-2008-413.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/dtwclipper/02-14-2008-418.jpg

It was at this point that I got up and noticed that this was no A330-300 but a -200! This was my first time on a 330-200 and hadn’t even noticed that there had been an equipment swap!
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/dtwclipper/02-14-2008-416.jpg

Over Canada
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/dtwclipper/02-14-2008-422.jpg
The second meal was a “European cold meat and cheese plate” which was very nice.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f127/dtwclipper/02-14-2008-424.jpg

We arrived right on schedule into DTW and pulled up to A38 where we had started our trip on 1/29!

A great trip on NW, super crew who made us feel like people and not just bodies in 1A and 1B!
Compare New York Air, the Airline that works for your Business
 
LHboyatDTW
Posts: 764
Joined: Thu Jan 25, 2007 12:53 pm

RE: KL MUC AMS, NW AMS-DTW In WBC With Pics

Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:30 am

Interesting TR

Seeing those pics of the KL 777s are making my mouth water just thinking of seeing those things here this November.  drool 
The air in the clouds is very pure and fine, bracing and delicious because it's the same the angels breathe.
 
B747forever
Posts: 12895
Joined: Mon May 21, 2007 9:50 pm

RE: KL MUC AMS, NW AMS-DTW In WBC With Pics

Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:42 am

Nice TR

The pics are really good.

Glad that you had good flights!!


Thank you for sharing

B747forever
Work Hard, Fly Right
 
PlaneHunter
Posts: 6522
Joined: Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:17 am

RE: KL MUC AMS, NW AMS-DTW In WBC With Pics

Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:00 am

Nice report with some excellent pics. The food looks very tasty!

Interesting to see NWA used an A332 on the route, doesn't happen very often.


PH
Nothing's worse than flying the same reg twice!
 
AT
Posts: 890
Joined: Tue Jul 25, 2000 12:16 pm

RE: KL MUC AMS, NW AMS-DTW In WBC With Pics

Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:44 pm

How did you determine that you were on a -200 series rather than the -300?
Was it written on the Safety Card?
Or did you notice that the plane was a bit short in length?
 
ba777pilot
Posts: 35
Joined: Mon Dec 24, 2007 4:34 am

RE: KL MUC AMS, NW AMS-DTW In WBC With Pics

Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:12 pm

Very nice trip report....
great pics

always love to see a KLM 777 and 747

overall nice Job

Ba777
N.S.
 
dtwclipper
Posts: 6668
Joined: Wed Oct 29, 2003 3:17 am

RE: KL MUC AMS, NW AMS-DTW In WBC With Pics

Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:50 pm

Quoting AT (Reply 4):
How did you determine that you were on a -200 series rather than the -300?

On NW, WBC is split into two cabins on the -200.

-300
http://www.nwa.com/travel/trave/seatm/a330/index.shtml

-200

http://www.nwa.com/travel/trave/seatm/a330200/index.shtml

Quoting AT (Reply 4):
Was it written on the Safety Card?

Nope, it appears that NW uses one Safety card for all A330 A/C.

[Edited 2008-02-16 09:51:50]
Compare New York Air, the Airline that works for your Business
 
User avatar
fxramper
Posts: 5837
Joined: Sun Dec 04, 2005 12:03 pm

RE: KL MUC AMS, NW AMS-DTW In WBC With Pics

Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:57 pm

Used WBC on NW to Tokyo some time ago. Very enjoyable. Excellent photos.

 yes 
 
DALelite
Posts: 1318
Joined: Thu Jun 01, 2000 7:00 am

RE: KL MUC AMS, NW AMS-DTW In WBC With Pics

Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:33 am

In terms of the perhaps merger i enjoyed your TR even more.

cheers: DALelite
They loved to fly and it showed..
 
ba319-131
Posts: 8159
Joined: Sat Jan 13, 2001 1:27 pm

RE: KL MUC AMS, NW AMS-DTW In WBC With Pics

Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:21 pm

Nice report and photo's, thanks for sharing.

I must say all the meals looked pretty good, even the KL Cityhopper flight.

I had hoped to fly NW WBC later this year, however it will be CO's BF, not my prefered choice, but it get's my first 764 flight completed  Smile

Regards

Mark
111,732,3,4,5,7,8,BBJ,741,742,743,744,752,762,763,764,772,77L,773,77W,L15,D10,30,40,AB3,AB6,A312.313,319,320,321,332,333
 
User avatar
rogerbcn
Posts: 1173
Joined: Fri Sep 15, 2006 10:45 pm

RE: KL MUC AMS, NW AMS-DTW In WBC With Pics

Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:40 pm

Hola Dtwclipper!

Thanks for the TR.

It is always nice to hear about such great service on NW planes. I have flown the AMS-SEA-AMS route and the crew were more than efficient and caring in their work. So far, the best American crews I have encountered, miles ahead than AA, DL or even CO.

Quoting Dtwclipper (Thread starter):
L'elisir d'amore at the Staatsoper and Orpheus in der Unterwelt and Hoffmanns Erzählungen at the Volksoper.

Great operas! L'elisir d'amore is one of my favorites. I just saw it in the 2004-05 season at a wonderful Barcelona's Liceu opera production which I thought was really good. Was Hoffmanns' Erzählungen in German? I never liked much the translation of operas. I've seen a German production of Carmen and, IMO, has nothing to do with the original version.

Quoting Dtwclipper (Thread starter):
We had a chance to talk with the purser and he slipped us a bottle of Champaign to celebrate valentine's day when we got home!

You were really lucky! Something similar happened to me some years ago, before the stupid liquid restriction ban, when I was stuffed with about 20 little bottles of whiskey, Baileys... and other spirits by a more than generous purser on the TXL-LHR route with BA.

Salut!

Roger
"At reise er at leve" H.C. Andersen (Travelling is Living)
 
atrude777
Posts: 4258
Joined: Wed Aug 13, 2003 11:23 pm

RE: KL MUC AMS, NW AMS-DTW In WBC With Pics

Sun Feb 17, 2008 9:42 pm

Excellent report! NWA A330 has always been one of my favorites to read on a.net and this is no exception!

Pics were great and I hope to fly a NWA A330 but I won't. Money  Smile

Alex
Good things come to those who wait, better things come to those who go AFTER it!
 
Boeing744
Posts: 1737
Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:27 pm

RE: KL MUC AMS, NW AMS-DTW In WBC With Pics

Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:00 am

Very nice report! How do you find the Fokkers? Are they spacious enough in business? How noisy are they?

Quoting Dtwclipper (Thread starter):
It was at this point that I got up and noticed that this was no A330-300 but a -200! This was my first time on a 330-200 and hadn’t even noticed that there had been an equipment swap!

Haha, I had the same thing happen to me with 767s. I was flying home VIE-YYZ-YVR, and both legs were scheduled for a 767-300 (OS and AC respectively), which I had flown numerous times. Upon arriving in YYZ I was beginning my third day without sleep, and had a fairly short connection. I didn't even look at the aircraft when I boarded, rather ran inside, sat down, and fell asleep. I woke up somewhere over the prairies, and then figured out that I was actually on a -200 by noticing how short the aircraft was, and the different saftey cards. I was pretty happy, because that was my first (and only) -200 flight.
 
dtwclipper
Posts: 6668
Joined: Wed Oct 29, 2003 3:17 am

RE: KL MUC AMS, NW AMS-DTW In WBC With Pics

Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:40 pm



Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 10):
Was Hoffmanns' Erzählungen in German?

Yes, it was in German, but it was a great performance.

Quoting Boeing744 (Reply 12):
How do you find the Fokkers?

A little bit better then an RJ. This was the first time I'd been on one since 4/01 when I was in F on an AA Fokker from DTW-DFW and DFW-DTW, so it was nice to be on board one again.

Quoting Boeing744 (Reply 12):
Are they spacious enough in business?

Not really, just the same 5 accross as in Y.

Quoting Boeing744 (Reply 12):
How noisy are they?

In row three I didn't find them too bad.

Quoting Dtwclipper (Thread starter):
I wrote NW this morning to let them know what great service we had.

I thought I would share this with you:

Dear Mr. D. and Mr. Z.,

RE: Case Number 5184058

Thank you for contacting Northwest Airlines concerning the service you received from our Flight Attendants; your feedback is greatly appreciated.

We appreciate your kind comments regarding the service received from our flight attendants Bob and Sarah. We believe our employees are our most important assets, and I am happy to learn that Bob and Sarah exceeded your expectations with their professional service and wonderful personalities.

Please know I will be sharing your comments with our Inflight leadership team so that Bob and Sarah receive appropriate recognition, on your behalf. Thank you for sharing your thoughtful remarks.

As a WorldPerks Platinum Elite member, you are an integral part of our customer base and we are always interested in your feedback. Thank you for taking the time to write concerning the service your received when traveling to Detroit. We deeply value your business.

Sincerely,

Maura DeBeck
Associate, Customer Care
Northwest/KLM Airlines
Compare New York Air, the Airline that works for your Business
 
LAXorLGWonDL
Posts: 99
Joined: Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:39 am

RE: KL MUC AMS, NW AMS-DTW In WBC With Pics

Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:37 pm

Great TR! I want to see MUC at some point!!

Cheers,
 Smile Robin
Next Up: STR, JFK, ATL, TPA, ANC
 
Transpac787
Posts: 1349
Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:47 pm

RE: KL MUC AMS, NW AMS-DTW In WBC With Pics

Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:18 pm



Quoting Dtwclipper (Thread starter):
Aircraft: Airbus A330-200

Interesting they made this equipment swap. Do you know if your original plane was on MX or anything??

They must have swapped it with MEM flight - would be my best guess at least. I don't think NW has once sent an A333 to BOM. They have sent A333's to SEA on occasion though.

Anyhow, if you have anymore info as to the "why" for the equipment swap I'd love to hear it!!

Quoting Dtwclipper (Thread starter):
We had a chance to talk with the purser and he slipped us a bottle of Champaign to celebrate valentine’s day when we got home!

That's fantastic you had a great flight on NW. They tend to not get a lot of positive press on a.net, so it's great to hear you had an enjoyable flight - especially as a PlatinumElite, haha.

One more thing - do you know if serving ice cream is a new thing for NW?? I've never seen it before, personally or in a TR??
 
Boeing744
Posts: 1737
Joined: Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:27 pm

RE: KL MUC AMS, NW AMS-DTW In WBC With Pics

Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:23 pm



Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 13):
Dear Mr. D. and Mr. Z.,

RE: Case Number 5184058

Thank you for contacting Northwest Airlines concerning the service you received from our Flight Attendants; your feedback is greatly appreciated.

We appreciate your kind comments regarding the service received from our flight attendants Bob and Sarah. We believe our employees are our most important assets, and I am happy to learn that Bob and Sarah exceeded your expectations with their professional service and wonderful personalities.

Please know I will be sharing your comments with our Inflight leadership team so that Bob and Sarah receive appropriate recognition, on your behalf. Thank you for sharing your thoughtful remarks.

As a WorldPerks Platinum Elite member, you are an integral part of our customer base and we are always interested in your feedback. Thank you for taking the time to write concerning the service your received when traveling to Detroit. We deeply value your business.

Sincerely,

Maura DeBeck
Associate, Customer Care
Northwest/KLM Airlines

Kudos to you for recognizing them. 10 minutes of your time to write that will probably make their day!

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: globalflyer, Google Feedfetcher, Zender3835 and 24 guests

Popular Searches On Airliners.net

Top Photos of Last:   24 Hours  •  48 Hours  •  7 Days  •  30 Days  •  180 Days  •  365 Days  •  All Time

Military Aircraft Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe

Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos