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TXL To LHR On BA - New T5! Picture-report

Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:26 pm

Hi folks,

it was time for me to use up some Executive Club miles - therefore I opted for a TXL-LHR-TXL trip on April 9th to check out the new Terminal 5 (fortunately, I didn't have to check any baggage...  ). Besides, since it was a miserable day in Berlin, I even got to catch some sun in London (go to LON for some sun, isn't that strange?)

Anyway, in order to avoid TXLs tremendous parking fees, I parked on a well known spot half a mile away and walked my way to the terminal.


The TXL-terminal-buildung landside on this cold and miserable April morning


always a pleasant sight: a DL B767-300ER gets prepared for its 11:25 departure as DL 79 to New York JFK


The PAN-AM-memorial badge inside the terminal, thanking it for 40 years of reliable services during Berlins division

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BA 991
TXL-LHR

Departure Gate: A15
Scheduled Departure: 11:05
Actual Departure: 11:05
Scheduled Arrival: 12:05
Actual Arrival: 11:50
Scheduled Flight Duration: 2:00 hours
Actual Flight Duration: 1:45 hours
Airbus A319-131 - G-EUPJ
Seat: 20F
Load Factor: 40%
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Todays aircraft - G-EUPJ, delivered in April 2000

We pushed back from Gate A15 at around 11:00 - and took off TXLs runway 08R perfectly ontime at 11:05 AM.


A rather light load this morning - making boarding and deplaning a smooth procedure


We reached the London area way ahead of schedule, at around 11:30 local time - forcing us to a holding pattern before finally turning in for the approach to LHRs runway 27L. Here a nice view of the river Thames and the millenium dome.


Londons impressive city centre


Westminster Abbey with Big Ben


Great to see a Concorde once again - even though she is just parked...

We touched down on runway 27L at around 11:50 and taxied straight to the new Terminal 5, past Terminal 3.


My first sight of a SIA A380.


The satellite terminal 5B - used for BAs long-haul flights


The main building of T5


The arrivals corridor on the second floor


Nice view onto the apron


These are some of the longest escalators I have ever seen - they connect the gate area on the thid floor with the tunnel to the satellite below the surface


The spacious bagagge hall - and a new sight for LHR: it's not (yet?) at all crowded!


The public arrivals hall


The terminal itself is directly connected with the parking garage - the driveways are beyond the parking garage. The garden in the middle is used by the smokers - unfortunately, the whole building doesn't offer ANY smoking facilities, not even past security...  


Outside the terminal, one gets a great view of the departing aircraft using runway 27 R


View onto the northern apron and runway - a new sight to LHR once again - a DL 767 taking off




The check-in and security area is located on the 4th floor


The security, lounge and shopping area on the 4th floor


a look onto the gate area on the 3rd floor with the escalators and elevators down to the tunnel to the B-satellite and the yet to be built C-satellite


The interior of the B-satellite


view onto the apron and across to the main terminal


for sure, the longest jet-bridge I've ever seen


the eastern side of the satellite with the site where satellite C will be built in the near future in the background

After visiting the B-satellite, I wanted to return to the main terminal. That proved to be an interesting task, as the train bringing passengers to the B-satellite was already operating, however, the pedestrian tunnel has yet to be finished. In order to go back, I had to inquire with a customer representative, who took me and another lady, that had accidentally walked over to the satellite, with a small vehicle back to the main terminal through the unfinished ped-tunnel... 


the not-finished pedestrian tunnel between the main terminal and the B-satellite - note the purple lighting

Afterwards, it was time for me to proceed to gate A7 for my return flight to TXL. Another on-time departure and early arrival. I didn't take any more pictures though, since it was hard to spot the aircraft from the boading gate and while inflight, it was already getting dark...

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BA 988
LHR-TXL

Departure Gate: A7
Scheduled Departure: 18:00
Actual Departure: 18:05
Scheduled Arrival: 20:50
Actual Arrival: 20:35
Scheduled Flight Duration: 1:50 hours
Actual Flight Duration: 1:30 hours
Airbus A320-231 - G-EUUH
Seat: 24A
Load Factor: 50%
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[Edited 2008-04-10 08:28:42]

[Edited 2008-04-10 08:30:48]
 
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RE: TXL To LHR On BA - New T5! Picture-report

Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:50 pm

Nice photos - I was there on Monday as well (LHR-MAN), and was very impressed by the new terminal.
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Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:05 pm



Quoting PA101 (Thread starter):
These are some of the longest escalators I have ever seen

I believe T5 holds the longest escalator in Europe.

T5 is fantastic and our so lucky to have visited it. I visited as part of a trial and also a tour with work.

I cant wait to fly through it though. A great report with some fantastic pics. I love the views from the ends of the departure areas. I believe departure area A has the best views overall, a fantastic view of take-offs on 27R/landings 9L

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Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:24 pm

Great report and excellent pictures : )

Quoting PA101 (Thread starter):
unfortunately, the whole building doesn't offer ANY smoking facilities, not even past security

Thats because its illegal to smoke in a public building in the UK
 
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Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:33 pm

Great TR and photos. T5 looks really nice if only they can sort the other issues out.

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Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:55 pm

Great read and interesting to see T5. Seeing the A380 must have been cool.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 4):

Great to see a Concorde once again - even though she is just parked...

She looks tiny against that 777 doesn't she? Small but perfectly formed I say.  Big grin
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Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:05 pm

Hi guys,

thanks for your comments. Yeah, it was a real pleasure to discover T5 and it's spacious settings. If they sort out their bugs, changing between BA flights in LHR will be a MUCH nicer experience in the future.

By the way: I have to correct a typo (I didn't see it until the first comment was posted and I couldn't edit the original post):

the picture of London obviously shows the house of parliament and Big Ben (I don't know, why I wrote Westminster Abbey...)!

Quoting Sketty222 (Reply 2):

I believe T5 holds the longest escalator in Europe.

Ah - thanks for the info. I was sure that these would qualify for such a title...

Quote:

I believe departure area A has the best views overall, a fantastic view of take-offs on 27R/landings 9L

Yes - it definitely does! And if you have time to spare and the sun is shining, it pays off to go outside (where the smokers meet... Big grin ) and get direct view onto runway 9L/27R - right next to the treshold of runway 9L!

Quoting Baexecutive (Reply 3):

Thats because its illegal to smoke in a public building in the UK

I see the problem, however, not allowing smokers to smoke ANYWHERE in between flights in the sterile area (in my opinion, there is no need for such facilities in the public areas) - many pax will be transferring - might not solve the problem, but can cause additional problems (e.g. people smoking in the lav on board). I wouldn't ever expect to smoke on a flight - however, the more desperate I am to get a few drags on the ground after a long-haul flight. With smoking rooms as offered elsewhere, I cannot see any harm for nonsmokers... Too bad, that generally good regulation (=general smoking ban to protect the majority of people) doesn't allow any exceptions for the still existing and not too small group of smokers...

Quoting EMA747 (Reply 5):

She looks tiny against that 777 doesn't she? Small but perfectly formed I say. Big grin

She sure looks small in comparison - but she'll always be an exceptional beauty. How great would it be, if she would keep on flying...
 
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Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:05 pm



Quoting PA101 (Reply 6):
I see the problem, however, not allowing smokers to smoke ANYWHERE in between flights in the sterile area (in my opinion, there is no need for such facilities in the public areas) - many pax will be transferring - might not solve the problem, but can cause additional problems (e.g. people smoking in the lav on board). I wouldn't ever expect to smoke on a flight - however, the more desperate I am to get a few drags on the ground after a long-haul flight. With smoking rooms as offered elsewhere, I cannot see any harm for nonsmokers... Too bad, that generally good regulation (=general smoking ban to protect the majority of people) doesn't allow any exceptions for the still existing and not too small group of smokers...

Take it up with the UK government then!
 
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Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:21 pm

Great pictures of Terminal 5! Much greater coverage than I managed on my trip to Amsterdam on 31st March  Smile It sure is a great Terminal and I'm really looking forward to flying through Terminal 5 again in July, but this time with lounge access.

They say you learn something new every day... well, I did! I didn't know they were to have a pedestrian tunnel from the B Pier to the A building. I also see you found the spot where wonderful views can be obtained of 27R departures Big grin I visited the area for 20 minutes or so after returning from Amsterdam.

Thanks for posting!
 
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Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:09 pm

Nice report and pix.

I flew through T5 last week, will put a TR up over the weekend, hopefully.

T5 is nice, however not finished and I'm not sure it's actually big enough, I think it's going to get pretty crowded in the summer months.

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Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:39 am

Nice report. Oh, that purple-lighted tunnel? It's finished. That's just how it is. Honest!
 
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Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:08 am

Great TR

T5 looks lovely.

Just a question. Will I be able to make it from T5 (main terminal) to T5b in just under a 1hr. Will land at LHR from ARN and the flight to LAX takes off after a hour. Will I make it??


Thank you for sharing

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Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:50 pm



Quoting B747forever (Reply 11):
Just a question. Will I be able to make it from T5 (main terminal) to T5b in just under a 1hr. Will land at LHR from ARN and the flight to LAX takes off after a hour. Will I make it??

Yeah - definitely!

Getting from the main terminal (A-gates) to the satellite (B-gates) is easy, as the train connecting the two buildings is already operating. Just getting from the gate area of the satellite on the 3rd floor (arriving pax enter the building on a lower floor - presumingly with connections to the train in the opposite direction) back to the main building is a challenge, as long as the ped-tunnel has not been opened.

You will probably arrive at the A-gate area in the main building (however, some European flights might operate from the satellite as well) - on the 2nd floor - have to pass transfers-security, then enter the gate area on the 3rd floor (maybe, they even have a direct escalator down past security - I couldn't find out) and take the escalator or elavator down to the connecting train.

Quoting LHR777 (Reply 10):
Nice report. Oh, that purple-lighted tunnel? It's finished. That's just how it is. Honest!

Well, it looks finished, has just not been cleaned yet (dust all over the place) and cannot be accessed without assistance as of right now.

Quoting DanTaylor2006 (Reply 8):
I didn't know they were to have a pedestrian tunnel from the B Pier to the A building.

Hehe... I didn't know either until I found out... Just strange that it's not quite finished and opened yet (the signs etc. are there, but they put a customer service guy there that then guides you through a still dusty hall and the tunnel).
However, they also put up signs in the main building saying "please don't proceed to the B-gates unless your gate number has been announced since returning takes about 40 minutes" Big grin

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 9):
T5 is nice, however not finished and I'm not sure it's actually big enough, I think it's going to get pretty crowded in the summer months.

Yeah, it turned out really beautiful! As of now, it wasn't too crowded, since BA still operates many flights out of T4. After moving their entire operation, it will definitely be more crowded, however, I still think it's a major improvement in comparison to their operations out of T1 and T4 (e.g. being in just ONE terminal). But for sure, it will sure lose much of its charme, once it gets too busy and crowded...
 
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Quoting PA101 (Reply 12):

Thank you so much for all that info. Really well needed. So I dont need to worry to much.
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Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:19 pm



Quoting B747forever (Reply 13):
Thank you so much for all that info. Really well needed. So I dont need to worry to much.

Sure - my pleasure!!!
Right now - since many BA flights still operate from T4 - it's not too crowded, so you shouldn't have any reason to worry!
 
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Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:44 pm



Quoting PA101 (Reply 14):
Right now - since many BA flights still operate from T4 - it's not too crowded, so you shouldn't have any reason to worry!

Brilliant. Cant wait til I test T5!!!
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Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:02 pm

Hi, PA101,

a nice story and a good daytrip target nowadays, for sure.
IMO the A.netters gone very well informed all around LHR T5.
Great pics as well.
No T5 booking for me till now, but we will see what´s going on there.

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Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:16 pm

Great report!
Just thought I would add some details of my experience at T5. I was there yesterday for a flight to EDI. the terminal itself was generally good especially the large red sofa type things in the departure lounge! They were so comfy! one thing that I did notice was how dirty a lot of the terminal was! Not a very good impression! Also, after boarding, we sat at the gate for over an hour supposedly due to poor weather. looked out the window, sunny skies! Finally, to make a bad day worse, I arrived without any luggage!
Really hope it improves quickly!
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