milesaddict
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Business Class To DXB.... And To CDG...

Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:19 am

Hi all,

As promised here is my trip report.

Airbus 332
load : business class = 100%
coach class = 95 %

Outbound : CDG-DXB

Check-in : the agent in charge was not that nice... when I arrived she told me, sir here is business class, please proceed to the coach class counter. I was about to scream at her, but after all I don't care, she was just a silly person. I laughed when I gave her my plat card... it was worth it...

Lounge T.F : almost full at 9;30 pm, few snacks were available, but it's kinda a shame to see what AF is offering to premium passengers. Agents from the lounges were very nice.

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Bording : delayed for 20 min, there was no line for premium passengers nor elite.

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Crew : They were fantastic.

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Catering : AF have to change the provider, french the so-called best in cooking.... I think it's a joke. As a french, it's killing me, how in the hell LH, NH, CO, are enable to provide better catering. I had a SMFL.

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prior arrival the BF was served..

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Aircraft + Seats and IFE:

The plane was neat, and my seat was a toboggan, it's always very hard to sleep on. IFE worked.

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Impressions + Scores:

The crew were very nice, but paying 2600 E R/T its very expensive.. for that, next time I have to fly to DXB, I will try EK for sure

Check In: 1 (no comment)
Lounge: 6 (I expect more from AF)
Boarding: 5 (a mess)
Seat: 6.5 (a bit wider could be nice, and please I wanna a bed not a lie-flat)
Crew: 9.5 (always looking after you)
Meal: 5 (a good joke)
Entertainment: 5 (working).



Inbound : DXB-CDG

Airbus 332
load : business class = 100%
coach class = 90 %

Check-in : efficient and friendly

Lounge : empty even when boarding begun (roughly 6 pax) few snacks were available, out of 2 computers 1 was dead. Never mind I had my laptop and by miracle I grabbed the wireless internet from EK BC lounge... (tks Falco Peregrinus for your previous experience)

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Bording : delayed for 10 min, there was no line for premium passengers nor elite.

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Crew : They were amazing.

Catering : Same comment as above, I'm still trying to figure out what kind of fish I had.....

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prior arrival a small, small, small bites were served.

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Aircraft + Seats and IFE:

Same comment as above

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Impressions + Scores:

Same comment as above

Check In: 8 (good)
Lounge: 6 (I expect more from AF)
Boarding: 5 (a mess)
Seat: 6.5 (a bit wider could be nice, and please I wanna a bed not a lie-flat)
Crew: 9.5 (always looking after you)
Meal: 5 (a good joke)
Entertainment: 5 (working).


me...

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runway23
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RE: Business Class To DXB.... And To CDG...

Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:30 am

Very nice trip report, enjoyed reading it.

Quoting Milesaddict (Thread starter):
Catering : AF have to change the provider, french the so-called best in cooking.... I think it's a joke. As a french, it's killing me, how in the hell LH, NH, CO, are enable to provide better catering. I had a SMFL.

AF catering (at least in CDG and some airports) is done by servair, which you guessed it belongs to.... Air France. I agree though that AF catering in J has gone downhill in the past few years. I actually find the Y meals sometimes look more appetizing.

I take it from some of your comments that you visit the FB board on flyertalk also?
 
milesaddict
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RE: Business Class To DXB.... And To CDG...

Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:35 am

Thanks for your comment.

AF catering is getting worse and worse... even in first class, the catering is not tht good as you may expect....

FT also... for sure
 
runway23
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RE: Business Class To DXB.... And To CDG...

Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:39 am



Quoting Milesaddict (Reply 2):
Thanks for your comment.

AF catering is getting worse and worse... even in first class, the catering is not tht good as you may expect....

FT also... for sure

I haven't flown AF J recently, but in January I flew LAX-CDG in J. One advice on that route is not to eat any fruit especially the breakfast. I had food poisoning as a result of that for 4 days (didn't make the same mistake a month later and picked the overburnt pancakes).

Other than that, I find the red wines are the worst part on AF. I'm surprised more people don't complain, the current ones are horrible. Champagne is still good though.
 
davescj
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RE: Business Class To DXB.... And To CDG...

Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:40 pm

Haven't flown AF in J for years. I'm sorry to see how much it has gone downhill.

Thanks for posting the TR!

Dave
Can I have a mojito on this flight?
 
EXAAUADL
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RE: Business Class To DXB.... And To CDG...

Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:40 pm

you definitely look French
 
Beaucaire
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RE: Business Class To DXB.... And To CDG...

Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:52 pm

Merci pour le reportage !
It is unconceivable that Air France as one of the world's largest and most respected carriers have not managed to impose to Servair a more stringent criteria for C-class food !
I mean it looks ok but -i've experienced it myself- ther's a difference beteween the appearance and the taste.
Technically AF is certainly OK - the service in general quite welcomming and warm-but if you pay that amount of money you should expect better price-performance ratio.
Foodwise - in Europe- I found Austrian Airlines are very good-(other than of course the great Asian carriers like Thai and Singapore,who often have top ratings in airline-food quality ratings-I appreciate their food for they use nicely spiced prepares)
Please respect animals - don't eat them...
 
milesaddict
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RE: Business Class To DXB.... And To CDG...

Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:21 pm

Tks for all the comments.

As Beaucaire pointed out, it looked good, but the taste and smell were tough to believe. My GF works for SV, I fly them very often and the catering is even better..

There is always an offset btw the adds and reality. I love LH catering.

However I wonder why AF is not aiming for the best ?

It's reckless for AF.

Indeed when I can avoid AF, I'm happy...

Will fly to HKG in F pretty soon (2 months).... on AF !! Too bad cuz I wanted to sample QR in First class !
 
ba319-131
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RE: Business Class To DXB.... And To CDG...

Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:52 am

Nice report, thanks.

Not flown AF since 1992, no real plans to other than get on a 318.

Food and lounges look poor, only good thing appears to be the crew, shame.

Rgds

Mark
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AT
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RE: Business Class To DXB.... And To CDG...

Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:05 pm

I am surprised that they use a 2-class A330 on the DXB route-- I thought there would be a large demand for F class. Certainly Dubai is a premium-heavy destination nowadays
 
semsem
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RE: Business Class To DXB.... And To CDG...

Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:14 pm

In Y the meals are very good and generous. Interesting that this is not the case in C.
 
milesaddict
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RE: Business Class To DXB.... And To CDG...

Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:22 pm

Most of the time AF operates 2 daily flights : one with the 772 (3 class), and one with the 332 (2 class).

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