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SAN Tours (& Photos From Mine)

Thu May 08, 2008 10:49 pm

I almost feel like this is a trip report, except I didn't really go anywhere.  scratchchin   shhh 

I recently discovered that organized tours are now being given of San Diego's Lindbergh Field. The Terminals To Tarmac Tour gives you a behind-the-scenes adventure of SAN's daily operations and plans for future growth.

The tour begins at the Commuter Terminal, built in 1996:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/CommuterTerminal.jpg

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/TerminalstoTarmacTour.jpg

A brief introduction is done on the short bus ride from the Commuter Terminal to Terminal 1, then the walking tour begins in T1, constructed in 1967, home of 19 gates and the busiest Starbucks in San Diego County:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/WalkingTourArt.jpg

Between Terminal 1 and Terminal 2 is this "backyard" for traveling dogs:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/DoggyYard.jpg

Good dogs get a drink from the doggie water fountain:


The Airport Authority works with local schools and artists to display their work throughout the airport. Here are some sculptures made completely of paper I thought were very cool:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/CommittedArt.jpg

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/WhereArt.jpg

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/LookArt.jpg



The man himself, Charles Lindbergh:


Spirit of St. Louis replica:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/SpiritofSTLReplica.jpg

T2 Window of Art:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/T2art.jpg

T2 West down low, finished in 1998 (The original T2 - now T2 East - opened in 1979):
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/T2b.jpg

T2 up high:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/T2overhead.jpg

A quiet T2 outside:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/T2outside.jpg

Future T2 West West. The Airport Authority is currently spending $60,000,000 to remove non-toxic waste (as this land was a landfill 50+ years ago). This will add 10 more gates to the airport and would allow United to get out of Southwest's way at T1. Could open as soon as 2011:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/T2future.jpg

After the walking tour through T1 and T2, we boarded the bus and hit the tarmac. I quickly discovered the sun-deflective material on the window was not going to be my friend, but nonetheless the first plane we see up close is a DL 763:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/DL763-1.jpg

F9 A319:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/F9319.jpg

AA Super 80, AA1900 to DFW:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/AAsuper80.jpg

I feel like we should have honked at this guy for cutting us off, jetBlue A320, B6 273 from SLC:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/B6320.jpg
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/B6320b.jpg

Again, window tint not being friendly, but made for a kinda cool photo:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/US320.jpg

Taxiway busier the The 5:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/UAbackouts.jpg

A view of Pt. Loma, the hurdle for pilots at the west end of the one and only runway 27:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/Endof27.jpg

Lined up at the end of 27 (measuring 9400ft in length) facing east:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/EMAS.jpg

Since WN holds 35% market share at SAN, the Airport Authority thought they better invest in a $11,000,000 Engineered Material Arresting System (EMAS) for overrun safety.  box  The customized material is designed to crush under the weight of an aircraft providing a controlled deceleration:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/EMAS2.jpg

"Spooky Eyes", jack-o-lantern looking balloons used to scare birds away from the runway:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/SpookyEtes.jpg

SAN shares a property line with the San Diego's Marine Corps Recruit Depot. Take notice of the thin black wire than runs horizontally through the fence...this is a Perimeter Intrusion Detection System. Isn't the barbwire enough?? The alarm was installed because apparently Marine recruits didn't care what it took to escape boot camp, so they entered the airport's secured property:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/MarineEscape.jpg

SAN Fire, centrally located as they must be able to respond to either end of the runway in 3 minutes:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/SANFire.jpg

SAN Fire has a rare tanker that can penetrate foam through the skin of an aircraft, proof from their training:


US 1500, A321 to PHL, amidst the downtown growth:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/US321.jpg

F9 A319 + San Diego skyline:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/F9Skyline.jpg

Is it a race to DEN??? Literally and figuratively, Southwest breathing down Frontier's neck. F9 558 to DEN & WN 2538 to SJC:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/RaceToDEN.jpg

Our 767 buddy of to ATL, DL 776:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/DL763tata.jpg

Midwest 2, 717 from MCI:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/Midwest717.jpg

DL 1159, 738 from SLC:
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh318/boeing757300/DL738tata.jpg

The tour lasted just over 2 hours from wheels-up to touchdown.

At the end, I asked if Keith (SAN Airport Authority Director of Operations/our tour guide) if there were any new carriers we may see land at SAN in the near future. His direct answer was Zoom, June 20th. I didn't let him off the hook that easily, so he beat around the bush and said they are currently in talks with other airlines from Europe. I bounced British Airways back to him, he said you'll have to wait and see. I think it's fair to say BA is back on the table, as well as Lufthansa and Air France. When the 787 arrives, I believe more European and Asian carriers will more seriously consider serving us here in San Diego.

Overall, the tour was very informative, unique in that you view many new aspects of Lindbergh Field, learn more about the history and better yet the future and options (or lack thereof) on the table for the future of SAN, best of all...it's free!! I highly recommend joining in on a tour. I get the feeling these tours might be a short term affair, because their mission is to get your feedback on future plans at the airport. Go now, before it's too late!

As seen on NBC San Diego: http://video.nbcsandiego.com/player/?id=182338

To book your own your tour, visit: http://www.sanplan.com/signup_airfield_tour.asp

Thanks to Keith and Katie!!

Hope you enjoyed!!  highfive   airplane   wave 
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RE: SAN Tours (& Photos From Mine)

Thu May 08, 2008 10:57 pm

HOLY CRAP!! I was just in SAN at the end of April and I never knew these tours existed! I am sooo disappointed! Thanks for sharing, I do appreciate it! I love taking daytrips to SAN. Next time, I'll book an air tour!  wave 
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RE: SAN Tours (& Photos From Mine)

Thu May 08, 2008 10:57 pm

Now that is very cool, if only more airports around the US would do something like this!! Im sure a lot of anetters will be checking this out on their next visit to SAN Thanks for posting this

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RE: SAN Tours (& Photos From Mine)

Fri May 09, 2008 12:47 am

I've got all summer off from school...I think you just gave me a GREAT way to spend a beautiful day!!

btw, does the Commuter Terminal only date from 1996? I thought it was a LOT older than that!!
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RE: SAN Tours (& Photos From Mine)

Fri May 09, 2008 12:59 am



Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 3):
btw, does the Commuter Terminal only date from 1996? I thought it was a LOT older than that!!

It has existed as the Commuter Terminal since 1996, prior to that I believe they said it was PSA's office building. The structure is 3 levels, the 1st floor is of course the terminal, the 2nd floor is storage (of all things) and the 3rd floors houses the San Diego Airport Authority. Keith said the 2nd floor can really only be utilized for storage because there are issues with the HVAC, without a major renovation.
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RE: SAN Tours (& Photos From Mine)

Fri May 09, 2008 1:35 am



Quote:
It has existed as the Commuter Terminal since 1996, prior to that I believe they said it was PSA's office building.

Thanks for the clarification...I didn't think that building was built in 1996!

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Keith said the 2nd floor can really only be utilized for storage because there are issues with the HVAC, without a major renovation.

Is it just me, or does Lindbergh Field pack more toxic locations into its 661 acres than Love Canal and Times Beach combined? What ISN'T polluted there?  wideeyed 
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RE: SAN Tours (& Photos From Mine)

Fri May 09, 2008 2:15 am

Thats crazy! I was just there yesterday!! Had I known of the tour I would have gotten up earlier in the day and taken the tour! Thanks for the heads up. Next time I visit I'll be sure to do this! Thanks!
 
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RE: SAN Tours (& Photos From Mine)

Fri May 09, 2008 3:21 am



Quoting SAN787 (Reply 4):
It has existed as the Commuter Terminal since 1996, prior to that I believe they said it was PSA's office building. The structure is 3 levels, the 1st floor is of course the terminal, the 2nd floor is storage (of all things) and the 3rd floors houses the San Diego Airport Authority. Keith said the 2nd floor can really only be utilized for storage because there are issues with the HVAC, without a major renovation.

Here's a photo of the commuter terminal in former PSA times:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/southerncalifornian/2323410292/

And the same building as a US Air hangar:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/southerncalifornian/2259802520/
 
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RE: SAN Tours (& Photos From Mine)

Fri May 09, 2008 3:32 am



Quoting Sdbravo (Reply 7):
Here's a photo of the commuter terminal in former PSA times:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/southerncalifornian/2323410292/

And the same building as a US Air hangar:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/souther...2520/

Wow, very cool!!! Thanks for posting these!!!
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RE: SAN Tours (& Photos From Mine)

Sat May 10, 2008 7:23 am

Nice report! I've taken this tour twice now, first in February then April. I originally posted about the tour back in late January but I posted it in the Photography forum. I just wanted to give you guys a heads up if you plan on taking the tour specifically to take photos; show up about 30 minutes early and secure your place in line so you can sit in the very last row of the bus. You will sit facing forward and the huge window behind you does not have the metal grills like the side windows do. The back row seats three people. The glass is slightly tinted and usually fairly dirty on the outside. On the second tour, I brought Windex wipes and asked the bus driver if I could wipe the back window off. I know...I'm a dork. He didn't mind at all though.

I hope you all get a chance to take the tour. It's very informative and it's so cool to be in the secured areas of the airport. It was great to see that Capital Cargo 727 up close.

Thanks again for the report SAN787.

Vicky

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