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NW 747-400 And A330-200 Biz Class To HKG (pics)

Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:11 pm

Hey all,

Well, back with another international TR. I really had no plans of being able to do much nonrev travel this summer - much less overseas - given the typical summer load factors. But, a unique opportunity presented itself that I just couldn't resist Big grin Anyhow, some of you may remember I posted a TR awhile back as "the captain's son" flying DTW-KIX on one of my dad's flights, can be found here:

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ums/trip_reports/read.main/123555/

Anyhow, at the end of June he told me he had a HKG at the end of July, which I was very surprised to hear since HKG is one of the most senior trips at NWA, and my dad is relatively junior on the blockholding 747-400 seniority list. I tried to not keep my hopes up considering NW's NRT-HKG-NRT flights tend to consistently go full, but the Nonrev God's finally decided to give me a break, and the trip eventually worked out!! Over the span of 6 days, the full itinerary ended up being:

DEN-MSP-NRT / NRT-HKG / HKG-NRT / NRT-PDX / PDX-EUG-DEN

Anyhow, on with the TR:




23 July 2008
NW19, MSP-NRT
Block Time: 12 hours, 00 minutes
747-451, N673US, Fleet# 6313
Seat: 11A, Main Deck World Business Class

Load Factor:
World Business Class: 85%
Coach: 80%

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Photo © Bruce Leibowitz





I usually don't include anything of domestic flights in my TR's, but here's a note of interest to some. When I arrived bright & early for the NW 630a flight to MSP, I was very surprised to see an AA 763 sitting across the way in Concourse C at DEN. AA hasn't sent scheduled widebodies to DEN for years, so I asked why it was there. Apparantly a divert for mechanical reasons, that had to sit overnight. The plane was bound from HNL, either from ORD or DFW, I forget which.


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AA 763 in DEN - very rare catch!!


So, once at MSP, I met up with a.nut KingAir200. We shot the bull for awhile, grabbed chinese food for lunch, and before too long it was time for NW19 to NRT to start boarding. As a lot of a.nuts can appreciate, I chose to fly to NRT from MSP since I didn't yet have that line on my FlightMemory page. I've tried to avoid MSP in the past though given the relative large numbers of must-ride nonrevs. Commuting 757 crews to NRT, WHQ personnel, etc.


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Ship 6313 at the gate in MSP. Sorry about the bad angle.


My dad was flying NW11 from DTW that day, which is scheduled to get in 30 minutes after NW19 from MSP - which I was counting on, given possible customs delays or the like. Anyhow, before long I was given seat 11A on the main deck in World Business Class. On the NW 744's, I do love the top deck, but for taking pictures and videos, rows 11 and 12 are easily the best, with respect to view of engines and the wing.


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Aft J-cabin during boarding on ship 6313.


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PTV while still on ground - not yet showing the map or any programming.


After a 55 minute boarding process, the CS agents finally shut the door, and we were off to NRT.


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Just prior to pushback. The A333 next door was NW42 to AMS.


After a relatively short taxi, we were ready for takeoff. I've experienced a few "rocket takeoffs" on 757's, 738's, and others which are really fun of course, but the ones I most look forward to are the heavy international ones with the long takeoff rolls. I love it!!



Takeoff on ship 6313 from MSP


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Climbout after a long takeoff roll.


Immediately after takeoff, the FA's began preparing the dinner service. Menus, amenity kits, slippers, and all those other things were handed out on the ground, as well as having our meal orders taken on the ground. So, before long I brought out the PTV, having only being forced to watch that "Airobics" video. I wish that was optional, not seemingly mandatory.


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Moving map and view of legroom. Seat in front of me was already reclined.


Climbout and cruise were very smooth, no turbulence at all. Made for some good pictures, at least!!


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I may be heavily biased, but the 747-400 is easily my favorite longhaul plane. Love that view!!


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Moving map of our route MSP-NRT


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Playlist from the Audio on Demand. "Layla" by Eric Clapton playing


Dinner service was excellent. I chose to have:

Shrimp and scallops in a fragrant mild curry sauce with rice and vegetable mix

Unfortunately I don't have any pictures of it, I always feel kinda weird taking pictures of my food on an airplane  Wink

After dinner, I hit the sack for near the rest of the flight. I'm lucky enough that I'm the type of person who could sleep through nuclear war, so fortunately for me sleeping 8-9 hours straight on an airplane comes quite easily.

So, after a brief 12 hour flight, we were on descent into Tokyo-Narita.


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Top of descent down into NRT


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Cool shadow cast by our plane on long final.


Landing was quite smooth, bravo to whoever was at the controls. As is typical with most NW international flights, we arrived quite early, 30-35 minutes. Customs was a piece of cake, clearing in maybe 5 minutes. The Japanese do everything so efficiently!!


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My flight, NW19 from MSP, showed as having arrived. My dad's flight, NW11 from DTW, not yet arrived, but expected 20 minutes early.




25 July 2008
NW11, NRT-HKG
Block Time: 04 hours, 30 minutes
747-451, N670US, Fleet# 6310
Seat: 73J, Top Deck World Business Class

Load Factor-
World Business Class: 50%
Coach: 95%

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Photo © Jing-Kai Chiou





While coach was near totally full, my mom, sister, and I were very lucky with the World Business Class load - just at 50% - very very rare for NW11 and NW12 to/from HKG.

Anyhow, my family and I enjoyed a great layover in Tokyo-Narita, going to all of the typical "crew hangouts":


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The Jet Lag Club. Good beer, good food, shooting the bull about airplanes - what can be better?!


My mom, sister, and myself took an earlier bus to the airport from the hotel than my dad, as we wanted to check in early. To our surprise, we were given top-deck World Business seats at check-in. Always a huge relief as a nonrev!! Anyhow, I knew one of my dad's best buddies at NWA was going to be captain on NW7 arriving into NRT from SEA just prior to our flight to HKG, so I made sure to take pictures of him being marshalled into the gate:


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A332 ship# 3361 as NW7 from SEA, my dad's buddy as the captain.


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Again, ship# 3361 (youngest A332 at NWA), parking at the gate in NRT.


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Our plane, ship# 6310, to HKG.


While we weren't allowed to board with the crew, the supervising gate agent did let myself and my family preboard so we could enjoy some extra time on the plane. I went to the cockpit right away, of course.


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My dad and his FO completing all the preflight actions before pushback.


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Another cockpit view


Once the boarding doors were shut, I gave my camera to my dad for the remainder of the flight, asking him to take a couple cool cockpit pictures. He didn't take as many as I was hoping, but he still got a few good ones.


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Taxiing to the runway at NRT


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Holding short of the runway, behind a JL 744 and a UA 777.


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Mt Fuji visible through the clouds on climbout from NRT.


Again, meal service was great, although a bit shorter and smaller than those on the Transpac flights. On all of NWA's "south" flights out of NRT, the meals are served on a single tray, while on the Transpac flights they are served in courses. So after a good dinner and a very long day in NRT, I got a few hours of sleep in the tail end of the flight to HKG.




27 July 2008
NW12, HKG-NRT
Block Time: 04 hours, 25 minutes
747-451, N673US, Fleet# 6313
Seat: 12A, Main Deck World Business Class

Load Factor-
World Business Class: 50%
Coach: 90%

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Photo © John E. Jauchler - New England Airports





While I won't bore you with a ton of details about my time in HKG, I will say it's one of the coolest cities I've ever seen. More high-rise buildings than just about anywhere in the world - HKG has to set some kind of record in that regard. While I'm an extreme amateur photographer, here are a few skyline pics I took the night before I had to leave again.


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Hong Kong skyline


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Different angle, Hong Kong skyline


I arrived quite early at HKG for check-in... early enough that I had to stand in line with a few other early pax as the CS agents completed their briefings and set up their stations. Again, I was pleasantly surprised to be given a World Business Class seat immediately at check-in. I was given an aisle seat in the center, but requested a window in row 11 or 12, for reasons I discussed earlier  Wink


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Terminal building - very nice!! NW12 departed from gate 29


Since the FO flew the NRT-HKG leg, my dad was flying both the takeoff and landing on the HKG-NRT leg. The FO was very nice and offered to take a video of my dad's takeoff, from the cockpit. I asked if this would interfere with his duties at all, and he insisted that it was no problem whatsoever and he'd be happy to do it. Thanks a bunch!!!


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Ship# 6313, we meet again!! I was on this exact plane MSP-NRT a few days earlier.


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A slightly different angle of ship# 6313, trying to get rid of the glare from behind.


Boarding went smoothly, and I was greeted by the same purser from our NRT-HKG flight, Patrick. Very nice guy!! I hung out in the cockpit awhile again, before going back downstairs to my seat 12A. The FO offered to take pictures and videos the entire flight, but I said I wanted to take a video of my dad's landing from my seat at 12A. He did do an AWESOME job with the takeoff video though, so bravo again to him!!



Takeoff from HKG. My dad is the one who says the intro line, "taking off rwy 25L, Hong Kong"


Climbout was a bit turbulent, but nothing major. The FA's handed out the breakfast menus and took our orders. Since I've had the NWA omelets a few times before (delicious, btw), I decided I'd try something new:

"Egg friend rice with chicken tomato sauce and chinese vegetables"

Man, that was a good choice too!! Having slept pretty good the night before, I stayed awake for the entire flight, making sure to take some pictures along the way.


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Again, my favorite exterior angle on the 744, looking back over the wing from just forward of door 2.


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Dark cabin while on cruise, en route to NRT


So, after a fairly short flight, we were on descent into NRT, being met with quite a few strong bumps and thick clouds. I'm not sure if ATC was vectoring us around a lot, or if it's part of a STAR into NRT, but we were making quite a few turns.


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Turning in thick fog, approach into NRT


We finally broke out of the fog (whew!!) and I got a good video of my dad's landing. On the previous flight of his I was on, NW69 DTW-KIX, he got a pretty rough landing in KIX. So, here was his major chance to redeem himself!! And, to his credit, he hit a near perfect landing in NRT - incredibly smooth.



My dad's landing in NRT. Note how the slats retract when thrust-reverse is deployed.


After quite a long taxi-back to the gate, I was quite surprised when we shut down engines on what seemed like the top of the ramp. The FO then made a PA saying due to our parking gate and tight turns, we would have to be towed into the gate.


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Reflection of our plane, ship# 6313, being towed into the gate.


After landing, I was connecting immediately onto NW6 to PDX, while my dad was heading to the crew hotel. So, I said a quick goodbye and headed over to the security checkpoints for connecting flights.




27 July 2008
NW6, NRT-PDX
Block Time: 09 hours, 05 minutes
A330-223, N851NW, Fleet# 3351
Seat: 4A, World Business Class

Load Factor-
World Business Class: 100%
Coach: 100%

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Photo © Weimeng





While NW2 to LAX had a quite a few more seats on it than the near totally full NW6, I wanted to go visit some relatives who lived out in Oregon. Plus, NRT-PDX was also a new line on my FlightMemory page  Wink

In an odd twist, I ended up being the only NWA nonrev on NW6, ahead of approx 10 offline nonrevs. Since coach went totally full, they were all given World Business Class to my extreme surprise, since this is against official NWA nonrev policy. But, as they say, what are rules if you can't bend or break them. At least I had first choice of WBC seats though, and got 4A in the forward WBC cabin, just in front of the wing.


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Looking across the full WBC cabin.


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Slightly different angle, looking toward the cockpit.


Unfortunately I didn't get any pictures of my plane from the terminal, since we were departing from one of those terrible gates that has no window views of your aircraft. Ughh!!


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View from my window. 744 ship# 6305 across from us was flying NW26 to DTW.


It had been quite awhile since i was on an NW A330, so I was secretly looking forward to this flight despite my eternal allegiance to Boeing!!



Takeoff from NRT on A332 ship# 3351


On the eastbound NRT-US flights, sunset sets in fairly soon after takeoff. I'm usually falling asleep by then, but I wanted to make sure I got a picture of the horizon before I turned out the lights.


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Sunset over the Pacific Ocean


Again, another great flight with very friendly FA's. I slept through the midflight snack (damn!!) all the way until breakfast. Descent into PDX was quite cloudy and with quite a bit of rain. We weren't able to see the ground until pretty low on descent.


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Breaking out of the clouds on final into PDX


On the three other flights I had previously just been on, all three had great landings. This landing though, was not quite up to par. We ended up hitting so hard that our plane bounced back into the air. The camera doesn't quite give the impact of our meteor of an airplane justice, as I guess I had quite a tight grip on it.



Landing in PDX. I guess they forgot to flare!!


And with arriving in PDX, that concluded a fantastic and very memorable trip for me. I visited with my relatives for the day, but had to fly home the next day on UA, PDX-EUG-DEN.

Thank you all for reading, and all comments/feedback always appreciated!!
 
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RE: NW 747-400 And A330-200 Biz Class To HKG (pics)

Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:39 pm



Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Once the boarding doors were shut, I gave my camera to my dad for the remainder of the flight, asking him to take a couple cool cockpit pictures. He didn't take as many as I was hoping, but he still got a few good ones.

So cool! Thanks for posting this and you seem to have a very cool dad  Wink

Awesome TR!
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RE: NW 747-400 And A330-200 Biz Class To HKG (pics)

Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:22 pm

One of the best trip reports I've seen. Thanks to you and your father. If you have any insight as to the fate of the 744s after the proposed merger please advise. It will be sad to know a world of aviation without both the L-1011 and B747.
 
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RE: NW 747-400 And A330-200 Biz Class To HKG (pics)

Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:47 pm

Great TR... but would've been better if some of the meals were pictured.
 
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RE: NW 747-400 And A330-200 Biz Class To HKG (pics)

Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:20 pm

Great TR as always Matt. So you road the bus to PDX, I had to read that one twice haha
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RE: NW 747-400 And A330-200 Biz Class To HKG (pics)

Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:21 pm

Great trip report! Thanks for posting all the pics and videos.
 
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RE: NW 747-400 And A330-200 Biz Class To HKG (pics)

Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:02 pm

Matt-

As always an excellent report sir! I really enjoy reading your intl trip reports, give me hope some day I can be just like you venturing out to the unknown intl cities LOL

Don't worry, I too secretly like NW's A330 planes. They are gorgeous to me.

I was in PDX (the city, not airport) July 29th but stayed right by PDX Airport.

Great pictures and videos! Always a thrill! I also try to book my routes based on what is empty on my flightmemory website haha, are we dorks or what?! Big grin

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RE: NW 747-400 And A330-200 Biz Class To HKG (pics)

Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:00 pm

Great TR! I love the pictures and videos!

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Playlist from the Audio on Demand. "Layla" by Eric Clapton playing

One of my favorites, in fact I am listening to it right now!  Wink
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RE: NW 747-400 And A330-200 Biz Class To HKG (pics)

Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:41 am

I really enjoyed the videos

nice TR


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RE: NW 747-400 And A330-200 Biz Class To HKG (pics)

Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:27 am

Transpac, awesome trip report. I did like the fact that you gave him slack on the landing in KIX. How long before your dad retires?

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Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:40 am



Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
having only being forced to watch that "Airobics" video. I wish that was optional, not seemingly mandatory.

Tell me about it, that video really pisses me off.  banghead 

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
he hit a near perfect landing in NRT - incredibly smooth.

Very nice landing.  thumbsup 

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Since coach went totally full, they were all given World Business Class to my extreme surprise, since this is against official NWA nonrev policy. But, as they say, what are rules if you can't bend or break them.

Something that would never happen on US.  Wink

Great TR Matt, its about time you got off that 30 day ban. You're dad's job is really bad ass. I noticed on the HKG takeoff video, the controller seemed to have an Aussie accent, is that very common to have a foreigner working in ATC to avoid the language barrier?

Good thing you slept away the MSP-NRT flight, I don't think they're were enough good movies in the AVOD system to keep one occupied for all four flights, in the month of JUL, haha. AUG. looks good though, plenty of good ones. Should give me something to watch on the LHR flights, so I don't have to play bejeweled for hours, after trivia shits out.  Silly
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RE: NW 747-400 And A330-200 Biz Class To HKG (pics

Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:23 am

Quoting TUNisia (Reply 1):
you seem to have a very cool dad

When he wants to be, yes  

Quoting Getdonnie (Reply 2):
If you have any insight as to the fate of the 744s after the proposed merger please advise.

Not much beyond what you hear on a.net. From various published materials (interviews, Q&A, etc) from the higher-ups, it seems the 744's will be around for quite some time after the merged NW/DL. They'll play an important role in the merged company. In a sense, there will be a widebody for every type of market imagineable. 744, 77L, 77E, 333, 332, 788, 764ER, 763ER, 75A

Quoting Coolfish1103 (Reply 3):
but would've been better if some of the meals were pictured.

I know, I need to get over my blocks on doing that.

Quoting Ebs757 (Reply 4):
So you road the bus to PDX, I had to read that one twice haha

Haha yea I know, it was genuinely difficult to pass up a 4th ride on a 747-400. But, had to visit the family and it was a new line  

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 6):
I also try to book my routes based on what is empty on my flightmemory website haha, are we dorks or what?!

Yea, definitely. You still have me beat in total flights though, I'll see if I can't fix that "situation" soon enough   

Quoting SXDFC (Reply 7):
One of my favorites, in fact I am listening to it right now!

I love "Cocaine" too. I don't even have either of them on my iTunes either, WTH?!? ::runs and gets CD::

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 9):
How long before your dad retires?

He was going to retire before the end of the year, but now with NW and DL merging that's on hold indefinitely. He figures he'll wait around and see what happens. A pay raise and a boost in seniority can change anyone's mind, haha.

Quoting CAP2008 (Reply 10):
I noticed on the HKG takeoff video, the controller seemed to have an Aussie accent, is that very common to have a foreigner working in ATC to avoid the language barrier?

I hear China is the absolute worst for crews. Very quick and sometimes incomprehensible ATC instructions on the radio. In addition to this, flight levels and altitudes are given in meters, and wind velocities are given in meters per second, not knots.

Quoting CAP2008 (Reply 10):
Good thing you slept away the MSP-NRT flight,

On these last four flights in WBC I seem to have perfected the art of comfortably sleeping on my stomach in those seats, despite being slanted lie-flat. I probably look like a beached whale while sleeping like that, but it's actually quite comfortable!!

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RE: NW 747-400 And A330-200 Biz Class To HKG (pics)

Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:28 am

Great TR dude! Hong Kong is my favorite city in the world! Im there 2-3 times a year. I take CX every time. I even stayed there for a 4 month period. Awesome it was.

Glad you liked it!
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RE: NW 747-400 And A330-200 Biz Class To HKG (pics)

Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:21 am

Great trip report! Nice that your dad is a captain! Free business class sounds nice to me. Big grin

Glad you had a good time!

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RE: NW 747-400 And A330-200 Biz Class To HKG (pics)

Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:01 pm

Your report is fantastic! I flew NW on a few transpac and NRT-HKG-NRT segments, and I have to comment how amazing it was. The seats were not all comfortable (especially on your venerable 744s)  Wink Oddly, perhaps the 330's seat design was more comfy. Nevertheless I found NW's transpac service to be really great, above UA's service.

Must be amazing to be on the same plane that your dad was captain. I would be filled with much pride too!
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Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:06 pm

Very cool - excellent trip report. Thanks.
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RE: NW 747-400 And A330-200 Biz Class To HKG (pics)

Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:58 pm

Quality TR, as always.

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
So, once at MSP, I met up with a.nut KingAir200. We shot the bull for awhile, grabbed chinese food for lunch, and before too long it was time for NW19 to NRT to start boarding.

After which I wandered around the airport, went to the Stop Over Store again, and then almost didn't get on my flight home.

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
It had been quite awhile since i was on an NW A330, so I was secretly looking forward to this flight despite my eternal allegiance to Boeing!!

I knew you'd come around someday.  Big grin
 
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RE: NW 747-400 And A330-200 Biz Class To HKG (pics)

Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:13 pm

Mateo, another great one. Especially enjoyed padre's vocals out of HKG.

Great report.  bigthumbsup 
 
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Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 12):
Im there 2-3 times a year.

Lucky fool!!

Quoting Maxisno1 (Reply 13):
Free business class sounds nice to me.

*Almost* free, but not quite there!! If it were totally free I'd be off to Tokyo every weekend, haha.

Quoting AA767LOVER (Reply 14):
Oddly, perhaps the 330's seat design was more comfy.

In coach, the A330 is definitely better than the 744. In World Business though, the A330 and 744 have identical seats. Same recline, width, AVOD, etc.

Quoting KingAir200 (Reply 16):
I knew you'd come around someday.

But only for one day, good sir  Wink

Quoting FXramper (Reply 17):
Especially enjoyed padre's vocals out of HKG.

Thanks!!

What has your uncle been flying as of lately?? I'm looking at doing either a DFW-SCL or MIA-SCL before the summer (their winter) comes to a close.
 
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Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:17 am



Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 18):
What has your uncle been flying as of lately??

July was ORD-CDG-DFW checkride, ORD-CDG-DFW checkride, and ORD-FRA-ORD. This month he's doing ORD-FCO-ORD twice and another ORD-CDG-DFW checkride. He did get back on S. America teaching his last recurrent. They got rid of some more Check Airman for cost reasons and he'll be doing checkrides to S. America out of DFW this fall.

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 18):
DFW-SCL

He planned on getting SCL out of DFW or MIA late summer or early fall to visit.

Again, a fantastic report and it's appreciated that someone takes the time to craft a great read.

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Thu Aug 07, 2008 8:08 am

Great report.

One question, what is an offline non rev?
 
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Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:45 pm

Great report. Where in Tokyo is the jet lag club? At the Airport?
 
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Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:20 pm

Amazing trip report, Matt! Big grin Been waiting for it.  Wink It's so cool that you can fly with your dad and he'll take pics for you. Has he ever let you fly jump-seat?

Oh and if I ever win the lottery, I'm coming with you on one of your trips.  Silly
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Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:57 pm

this was definatly one of the best trip reports ive seen! I have yet flown with my dad on one of his trips yet, but probably will once he moves up to the 787 or a330. Great TR
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Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:00 am



Quoting FXramper (Reply 20):
He planned on getting SCL out of DFW or MIA late summer or early fall to visit.

I'll have to catch you on AIM in a month or two then to find out what his schedule is!!

Quoting Flyjetstar (Reply 21):
One question, what is an offline non rev?

Employee (or dependents) for another airline than the one they're flying on, eg. KL employees riding nonrev on NW.

Quoting Caspritz78 (Reply 22):
Where in Tokyo is the jet lag club?

It's in "Narita Town". I don't know if that's the official name of the place or not, it's just the highly popular name the district is known as by the crews. The Club itself is a huge airline crew hangout, with all sorts of cool airline memorabilia on the walls.

Quoting YYZflyer (Reply 23):
Has he ever let you fly jump-seat?

I wish.

Before 9/11, getting caught doing that was a pretty serious slap on the wrist. After 9/11, it's a prison-time offense.

Quoting NWASkyking (Reply 24):
but probably will once he moves up to the 787 or a330.

What's he flying now??
 
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Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:42 pm

Great trip report! Nothing beats landing in HKG and walking into that amazing airport.
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Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:21 am



Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
grabbed chinese food for lunch

Wok N Roll?  Silly

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
having only being forced to watch that "Airobics" video. I wish that was optional, not seemingly mandatory.

I hate that damn thing.... now be a good boy and rotate your feet!

Quoting CAP2008 (Reply 10):
AUG. looks good though, plenty of good ones.

Really? I was thinking the opposite...I don't wanna fly in August...no good movies.

Quoting CAP2008 (Reply 10):
after trivia shits out. Silly

Yeah no shit. My last MSP-AMS-MSP were the only flights in the last few months the damn thing worked. Too bad nobody wanted to play against Kai in 6A  Smile

Quoting AA767LOVER (Reply 14):
The seats were not all comfortable (especially on your venerable 744s) Wink Oddly, perhaps the 330's seat design was more comfy.



Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 18):
In coach, the A330 is definitely better than the 744. In World Business though, the A330 and 744 have identical seats. Same recline, width, AVOD, etc.

Except the 744 has a middle seat.

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 25):
Before 9/11, getting caught doing that was a pretty serious slap on the wrist. After 9/11, it's a prison-time offense.

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Sun Aug 10, 2008 1:09 am

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Since coach went totally full, they were all given World Business Class to my extreme surprise, since this is against official NWA nonrev policy.

Well, I'm glad we did board them rather than leave them behind.

Thanks for a great report!

[Edited 2008-08-09 18:10:33]
 
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Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:39 pm

Great rreport mate,

Nice of you for sharing it with us,

Also good fortune for u on getting different route logs .

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Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:05 pm



Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 27):
Wok N Roll?

Nothing but!! Although I do prefer Panda Express as far as airport Chinese goes.

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 27):
Except the 744 has a middle seat.

Well yea, I just meant the seat type in general. Between the 744 and A330 they're identical. Same recline, width, PTV, all that.

Quoting TR1 (Reply 28):
Well, I'm glad we did board them rather than leave them behind.

Lucky they were, no doubt. I've always wanted to try that to see if other airlines (CO, DL) would upgrade me if coach were sold out, but I guess I just haven't got around to testing the waters at it.

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 29):
Also good fortune for u on getting different route logs .

I know!! I was proud of myself in one of those "accomplished absolutely nothing" type of ways.... Big grin
 
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Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:45 pm



Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 30):
Lucky they were, no doubt. I've always wanted to try that to see if other airlines (CO, DL) would upgrade me if coach were sold out, but I guess I just haven't got around to testing the waters at it.

With our new pass program with Delta, we are eligible to be upgraded if seats are available. I was put up front on a JFK-SNN flight this past June. I've also been upgraded on KLM and Air France in the past when coach was full.
 
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Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:13 am

Great TR. NW WBC looks really nice. I know when I flew QF when we landed and went past the Business class seats we envied those people.
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Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:24 am

I'm sure you have made alot of people green eyed monsters after reading that report Transpac! Are you looking at following in your Dad's footsteps?  Wink

Thanks for posting!
 
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Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:19 pm



Quoting TR1 (Reply 31):
With our new pass program with Delta, we are eligible to be upgraded if seats are available. I was put up front on a JFK-SNN flight this past June.

No kidding?!? How do you pay the taxes and fees though, is it by credit card after ordering the paper tickets on Radar??

Quoting Jetblueguy22 (Reply 32):
NW WBC looks really nice.

Yea, I love the seats and AVOD, very nice. Food could always be a bit more plentiful on NWA though. AA beats them by miles in terms of food service, though I'd personally consider NWA to be quite a bit ahead of UA in food service in international business and first.

Quoting NQYGuy (Reply 33):
Are you looking at following in your Dad's footsteps?

That's the plan, though you've obviously never seen me try to land  Wink





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Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:31 pm



Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 30):
Lucky they were, no doubt. I've always wanted to try that to see if other airlines (CO, DL) would upgrade me if coach were sold out, but I guess I just haven't got around to testing the waters at it.

Go for it on CO or DL, but stay the hell away from US!!!!

P.S. how's the photobucket bandwith holding up, you can check it you know(account options). I opened up a new account with only my CUN TR, and the son of a bitch just ran out of bandwith, WTF.
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Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
On the three other flights I had previously just been on, all three had great landings. This landing though, was not quite up to par. We ended up hitting so hard that our plane bounced back into the air. The camera doesn't quite give the impact of our meteor of an airplane justice, as I guess I had quite a tight grip on it.

Hey Man

Great TR and great photos/videos from the cockpit, it is great your dad is a B744 Captain- a really great aircraft. Just was curious about your comment above on the A330 landing - you noted that they bounced - it that your judgement from the landing gear noise or cos you felt it?

I have a friend who is an A330 pilot for EI and he loves the planes (as do I - they saved EI's long-haul routes!) but the only thing he hates is the landing sound - not the landing. On the A330/A340 (but it seems more noticeable on the A330) the gear is hinged to an almost 90 degree angle which means the first thud you hear is the back tires hitting the tarmac and the 2nd thud is the front tyres(of the main wheels) - which usually slam down. He knows this sound pretty well and he admits that despite his best efforts - even if the landing is good - the sound in the cabin makes it seem like the pilots have bounced it into the ground.

Any, just a quick comment - but great TR.

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Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:57 am



Quoting CAP2008 (Reply 35):
and the son of a bitch just ran out of bandwith, WTF.

You must overload it with entirely too many pictures of the Airbus  Wink

Quoting Pilot21 (Reply 36):
it that your judgement from the landing gear noise or cos you felt it?

We did hit remarkably hard, but now that you mention it.... I bet you're right. It was probably just the transition of the weight-on-wheels mechanism. Good catch!!

Quoting Pilot21 (Reply 36):
Any, just a quick comment - but great TR.

Thanks, and thanks for the correction!!
 
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Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 30):
Nothing but!! Although I do prefer Panda Express as far as airport Chinese goes.

We have no Panda  Sad Although there is that place next to McDonalds...never tried it though
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Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:30 pm

Great report and pictures, thanks.

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Customs was a piece of cake, clearing in maybe 5 minutes. The Japanese do everything so efficiently!!

- I know, they are great!

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
I always feel kinda weird taking pictures of my food on an airplane

- Not at all, get the camera out!  Smile

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Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:56 pm

Hey Matt, great report! I've been on the N851NW as well. The pic of the 744 at the MSP gate also looked familiar.

How were the F/A's? I've had some not that good experiences with them on NW intercontinental flights.

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What a privilege it is to have a father who is a captain on the 747-400 and affords you the ability to fly halfway around the world in business class at a very low price. I could only wish.
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