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Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Sat Aug 09, 2008 7:14 pm

Hello dear readers, here is the 3rd part of my recent trip.


01.08.08 LX15 A330-223 LX-IQI 3K – First Class
1st Flight on this aircraft & 9th A330 Flight
SCH DEP20:45 SCH ARR 10:55
ACT DEP 20:36 ACT ARR 10:35


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Having parted company with Roni I headed over to the Swiss lounge to chill out before my next flight.
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Since I had a dreaded SSSS on my BP, the lounge agent suggested they escort me to the gate 10 minutes ahead of the normal time, this to ensure I did not suffer delays at security.
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The lounge is split into 2 areas, one for First the other for Business passengers. The First lounge was quiet, only 2 other passengers in there , 1 other arrived later on.
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Despite a superb previous flight with EK, I felt in need of a shower and change of clothes, thankfully the Swiss lounge does have a shower, yippee!

The shower was a good size, clean and looked well maintained, much superior to the showers EK have back in DXB.
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I emerged much refreshed in clean clothes, certainly felt more human, though I think the large quantities of booze EK supplied me were also having a wearing effect, a couple of Ginger Ales and I was feeling much better, if fact I’d have stayed off the booze but Swiss have Sam Adams in the lounge, can’t resist that stuff!
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Snacks/Drinks
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Despite the short time in the lounge, I managed to note 13 new planes for my log.
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Boarding was announce at 19:50, just as my escort arrived to take me down to security, this appears to be something done for all First passengers.

The security area for our gate (31) was only a short walk away.
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I have to say I was not looking forward to the special SSSS screening, expecting my bags to be emptied out and me strip searched or something, ok slightly dramatic perhaps, anyway, what a simple and quite pleasant experience it was. It appears the TSA agents have been on a customer service course as they were all extremely polite through out the whole experience, I must say I was really impressed, well done TSA!

On the way to the gate
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Boarding was almost complete by the time I arrived at the aircraft, I was among one of the last passengers to board.
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A friendly greeting at door 2L and then escorted to my seat, 3K today and in the last row of Swiss First Class on this A330-200.

Carry-on luggage stored, reading materials etc having been removed, I sat down, the cabin staff quickly appeared offering drinks, I took Champagne.
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I have to say the legroom was huge, actually it’s too much really, unless you have the bed fully out you never use it and even then there’s still room at the end of it!
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Despite these being the old First Class seats, they were still very comfortable though the seat equipment, ife etc was showing it’s age.
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The last First occupant arrived, so tonight’s load up front consisted of 4 passengers out of a possible 12.

Ammenity kit
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Push occurred slightly early, though we seemed to taxi for quite some time, our turn at the runway finally appeared and we left US soil at 21:53.
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Takeoff!
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I do enjoy travelling on A330’s, such a nice and quiet plane, especially forward of the engines.

As soon as the crew were released they came around to take this evenings dinner orders or set the beds up, my 3 cabin companions all decided to have their beds made, appears I was the only person planning to eat this evening.

I appear to have misplaced the menu so cannot give more details of the menu or provide pictures, but I took the beef , this was very good and a cheesecake with a raspberry compot, that was really good!
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I passed on breads and starter as I wanted a quick service, starting to feel a little worn by this stage.
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Despite the chocolates being offered I declined, I need to be in the right mood for chocolate, now was not one of those moments.
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I stuck to the champagne, though took sparkling water too, actually being given a whole bottle.
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After a quick visit to the ‘boys’
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I headed through the galley, the FA asking if it was time for bed so I said yes and he rushed off to make my bed for me.

My bed for the night
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Despite these being the old seats, they suited me just fine, manager a good few hours, waking up around 1.5 hours before landing.
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Feeling awake enough, I got up and started to pack away the duvet, caught in the act the friendly FA rushed out of the galley to finished the job, given the low load and me being the only active person, guess it kept him slightly occupied!
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Feeling peckish but not too much, I just took juice, fruit, yoghurt, coffee and a croissant, nothing special but the juice tasted freshly squeezed and the yoghurt’s presentation and taste was good – much prefer it being served in a bowl rather than in a plastic tub!
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The remains of the bottle of water from last night got replaced with a fresh one, this despite my objections that it was still ok – great service!
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Just before descent, the remaining 3 passengers woke up, they all too a quick something to eat/drink – hot towels were also passed out.
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I had expected one of the much touted Swiss chocolates to be offered before landing, alas not to be – OA260 always seems to get these!
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The crew had it pretty easy up front on this flight, what an easy bunch of passengers!
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Approaching Zurich
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Once parked, I thanked the crew, they held back other departing passengers to allow me off, then headed off to the lounge near the A gates to rest prior to my next flight in just under 2 hours.

All in all I quite enjoyed the flight, though being quite a short flight, you don’t get to feel the real First Class experience, would be good to try out on a proper long haul.

Down to the train.
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Exterior of the lounge
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I did visit the long bar but you can smoke in there and people were, so never stayed, seemed to lack decent ventilation.

The lounge was ok, but nothing special or perhaps I was just too tired to fully appreciate it?

I killed a little time in the lounge before heading down to the gate.

The A gates have a separate security channel for First/Business passengers, ahead of me some LH crew tried their luck to use it but were turned away.

Despite my EK ammenity bag making it through SSSS screening at JFK, the staff here made me break the seal and inspect the contents, interesting............

Once at the gate I noted our flight had been delayed by 30 minutes
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so I did a bit of spotting, made 12 new birds, so a pretty good use of time.
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02.08.08 LX332 A321-211 LX-IOK 3K – Business Class
1st Flight on this aircraft & 22ND A321 Flight
SCH DEP 12:15 SCH ARR 13:05
ACT DEP 12:56 ACT ARR 13:30


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Boarding actually started as 12:25, though there was no pre-board for Business Class, being dead beat and just wanting to get my seat I enquired at the desk as to the lack of pre board, the lady replied it was more important to get the economy passengers seated. I appreciate the flight was running late but why upset premium passengers??

My ride
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I was among the last to board, being told the flight was full and they would have to check my hand luggage, then she noted my seat/class, opp’s, sorry!
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Once aboard, I was the last business passenger, though thankfully there was still space for my luggage in the overhead.

Business was configured in 3 rows of 2, the middle seats having that plastic ‘board’ across them, a full load up front today.
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Front door closed at 12:49.

The crew distributed newspapers, a ‘refreshing towel’ and a small bottle of water to those who wanted refreshments, the water was welcome as it was quite warm – nice weather in Zurich today.

Push occurred at 12:56, with a relatively short taxi out to our departure runway
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wheels up as 13:11
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So this is where clouds are made  Smile
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Shortly after takeoff the meal service commenced, the FA serving our cabin starting from the last row working her way forward.
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The meal was very tasty and quite the right portion for this time of day – I took sparkling water to drink.
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The rest of the flight was pretty uneventful and I dozed.

Some pictures during descent.
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Wheels touched down on 27L at 13:30 local time, some 1h:19m of flight.

Short taxi to the gate and a long walk to passport control!

That’s about it really and yes, we did get a famous Swiss chocolate on this flight
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Hope you enjoyed this final instalment.

The trip was long but was well worth it, had a blast! - 4 planes,almost 27 hours flying and only 2 nights away from home!

Kind Regards

Mark

Future confirmed flights:-

BE LGW-IOM – D84 (Y)
BCI IOMJER – DO3 (Y)
BE JERLGW – 190 (Y)
BA LHR-JFK – 744 (J)
CO EWR-HNL – 764 (J)
HA HNL-ITO – 717 (Y)
HA ITO-HNL – 717 (Y)
HA HNL-LIH – 717 (Y)
HA LIH-HNL – 717(Y)
AA HNL-LAX – 752 (F)
BA LAX-LHR – 744 (J)
SN LGW – BRJ – AR1 (Y)
SN BRUTHF – AR8 (Y)
BA TXLLHR – 320 (Y)
BE LTN-IOM - D84 (Y)
BE IOM-LTN - D84 (Y)
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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:29 pm

Hello

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Since I had a dreaded SSSS on my BP, the lounge agent suggested they escort me to the gate 10 minutes ahead of the normal time, this to ensure I did not suffer delays at security

Do you know what that SSSS means?

And I am also very happy that the TSA agents have improved as I had heard very bad comments about them.

Thanks for the excellent report! I actually felt that I had been in the plane myself your whole trip and I would like to congratulate on completing your trip to ride the First A380 flight with emirates
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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:41 pm

Hello mark! Thanks for a great TR, it was interesting to see a proper report on LX's F product. The food looked very restaurant like and nice of course but it seemed like the pics of the starter and cheese were missing.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Despite the chocolates being offered I declined, I need to be in the right mood for chocolate, now was not one of those moments

To me it seemed very generous of them to leave the whole box of chocolate but it was a wise decision to skip them by considering the fact that you better stay in shape before the wedding and all  Smile

The J class meal didn't look as impressing as i had thought but still good though. But i have to say that the Y class meals on AF could might be a bit better quantity wise (and maybe by the number of dishes).

Thanks for sharing!
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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:56 pm

What an excellent report, once again!  Smile Well written, and supported with great photographs.

I rather like the look of the Swiss First Class Lounge - that sort of style appeals to me. The food on board both flights looked very good, and the meal on the flight to LHR reminds me of my own flights to and from ZRH last week Big grin Haha. The seats in First and also European Business look fairly decent too. I really feel like I should've flown LX Business to Zurich now! But there's always another time I suppose  Smile

Wait... I recognise that airport... oh yes it's Zurich! Nice pictures of approach, taxi, the terminal and takeoff around Zurich - such a pleasant airport to spend time in  Smile Reminds me so much of my holiday... and that's a good thing! Haha.
 
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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:35 pm

Hey Mark!

I was waiting for this one. Great report with a good amount of superb pics. It seems that you enjoyed your experience on LX, despite not making this very clear  Wink The food certainly looks great.

If you want to try a real longhaul on LX F, you should probably wait for the new cabin interior to come online, which will be so much better compared to the quite old fashioned cabins on the A332s.

And why didn't you go to the F class lounge at ZRH? I do realise that you continued your journey to LHR in J, but since there's no european F class, and you were traveling on an F class ticket from JFK, I think you should have been granted admission.

Thanks again for the great read!

Sandro
 
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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:58 pm

Great report, only criticism is it doesnt mention where you were flying from-to! Its obvious to most from looking at the pictures but not to a martian for example lol.
 
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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Sat Aug 09, 2008 11:32 pm

Nice tripreport, thank you for writing!
Just a small detail, the Swiss country code for aircraft registrations is HB-*** i.s.o. LX-*** which is the country code for Luxembourg  Wink

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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:27 am



Quoting EkA380 (Reply 1):
Do you know what that SSSS means?

- It means you get extra screening at security.

Quoting EkA380 (Reply 1):
Thanks for the excellent report! I actually felt that I had been in the plane myself your whole trip and I would like to congratulate on completing your trip to ride the First A380 flight with emirates

- Thanks, glad you enjoyed the whole trip.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 2):
Hello mark! Thanks for a great TR, it was interesting to see a proper report on LX's F product. The food looked very restaurant like and nice of course but it seemed like the pics of the starter and cheese were missing.

- Glad you enjoyed. Food was good, if the flight was an earlier one or I was less tired it's likely I would have tried the full menu.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 2):
The J class meal didn't look as impressing as i had thought but still good though

- Pretty standard for this sort of length in European Busines, though it was nice.

Quoting DanTaylor2006 (Reply 3):
What an excellent report, once again!

- Thanks  Smile

Quoting DanTaylor2006 (Reply 3):
Zurich - such a pleasant airport to spend time in

- Yes,especially for spotters.

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 4):
Hey Mark!

I was waiting for this one. Great report with a good amount of superb pics

- Thanks Sandro.

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 4):
It seems that you enjoyed your experience on LX, despite not making this very clear

- I thought they were pretty good, though the lack of pre-board and the comments in ZRH did let the whole thing down a little.

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 4):
The food certainly looks great

- No complaints fro me  Smile

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 4):
And why didn't you go to the F class lounge at ZRH?

- Never even crossed my mind, almost walking dead I thing  Smile

Quoting Flyingfool (Reply 6):
Nice tripreport, thank you for writing!

- My pleasure, thanks for reading.

Quoting Flyingfool (Reply 6):
Just a small detail, the Swiss country code for aircraft registrations is HB-*** i.s.o. LX-*** which is the country code for Luxembourg

- Well spotted, I started wrighting this out when I was really too tired to do it, note to self, always write TR's when you are fully awake!
Regards

Mark
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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:41 am

And your journey ended with another good TR!. Though I must say even the aging F class looks very nice and is definitely a competitive product, if not the best.

Sad you declined the chocolates, I would have taken em right away no matter what mood I'm in. Big grin
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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:08 am

Fantastic last part of your "very special trip" series, Mark! The LX First Class product looks nice, but honestly, by judging from your reports, I'd prefer EK's A380 Business Class any day...

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Since I had a dreaded SSSS on my BP, the lounge agent suggested they escort me to the gate 10 minutes ahead of the normal time, this to ensure I did not suffer delays at security.

Probably a result of your very limited time in the US...

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Despite the short time in the lounge, I managed to note 13 new planes for my log.

Not bad - nice to see Neos at JFK.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
I have to say I was not looking forward to the special SSSS screening, expecting my bags to be emptied out and me strip searched or something, ok slightly dramatic perhaps, anyway, what a simple and quite pleasant experience it was. It appears the TSA agents have been on a customer service course as they were all extremely polite through out the whole experience, I must say I was really impressed, well done TSA!

Where did you write down the registrations? Last time when I was SSSS-checked at JFK, I was hoping the guy wouldn't find my little note-book. Luckily, he didn't. But who knows what would happened IF...

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
The last First occupant arrived, so tonight’s load up front consisted of 4 passengers out of a possible 12.

Not a money maker on that day...

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Despite the chocolates being offered I declined, I need to be in the right mood for chocolate, now was not one of those moments.

Did you finish all that? At least it's somehow healthier to stick to Cattle Class...  Wink

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Despite my EK ammenity bag making it through SSSS screening at JFK, the staff here made me break the seal and inspect the contents, interesting............

I guess they were just curious to see what's inside...  Wink

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
the lady replied it was more important to get the economy passengers seated.

 Confused

Quoting EkA380 (Reply 1):
Do you know what that SSSS means?

Secondary Security Screening Selection or Secondary Security Screening Selectee.

Detailed description: BOS-JFK-AMS-MUC: SSSS-Check And KLM 777


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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:15 am

Great last part Mark.

Have enjoyed all your TR.

So your final routing was LHR-DXB (VS) DXB-JFK (EK) JFK-ZRH-LHR (LX), right??

How do they chose which pax have to go through SSSS???



Thank you for sharing

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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:18 am

Another great TR, much appreciated
 
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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:03 am

Hi Mark,

great final legs of your trip. The meals are looking delicious. Maybe the Sprüngli Collection was served instead of the usual chocolates?

Thanks for the nice TR.

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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:40 am



Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 7):
though the lack of pre-board and the comments in ZRH did let the whole thing down a little.

A real shame indeed, i have never heard of or experienced this myself. The usual procedure is that they let C and star gold/platinum pax board at any time via a seperate line. I guess Swiss people get stressed a little when something isn't on time  Wink

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 7):
Never even crossed my mind, almost walking dead I thing

 rotfl  too bad! You even walked past it while going through security Big grin
 
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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Sun Aug 10, 2008 12:59 pm



Quoting Ojas (Reply 8):
And your journey ended with another good TR!.

- Thanks, glad you enjoyed.

Quoting Ojas (Reply 8):
Though I must say even the aging F class looks very nice and is definitely a competitive product, if not the best.

- Oh yes, not the best but still pretty good.

Quoting Ojas (Reply 8):
Sad you declined the chocolates, I would have taken em right away no matter what mood I'm in.

- Watching the weight though, was 3 weeks to the wedding.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 9):
Fantastic last part of your "very special trip" series, Mark! The LX First Class product looks nice, but honestly, by judging from your reports, I'd prefer EK's A380 Business Class any day...

- Thanks PH  Smile I really enjoyed the Swiss experience, however preferd the EK J seat on the 380.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 9):
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Since I had a dreaded SSSS on my BP, the lounge agent suggested they escort me to the gate 10 minutes ahead of the normal time, this to ensure I did not suffer delays at security.

Probably a result of your very limited time in the US...

- Most likely, though the whole system is flawed from my understanding.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 9):
Not bad - nice to see Neos at JFK.

- Yes, think it is actuall operating for Aerosvit(?) at the moment.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 9):
Where did you write down the registrations? Last time when I was SSSS-checked at JFK, I was hoping the guy wouldn't find my little note-book. Luckily, he didn't. But who knows what would happened IF...

- My note bood was in my pocket, they never even gave me a real pat down, quite unlike the SSSS screening I was expecting.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 9):
Did you finish all that? At least it's somehow healthier to stick to Cattle Class...

- I was good, had none  Smile

Quoting B747forever (Reply 10):
Great last part Mark.

Have enjoyed all your TR.

- Good to hear, thanks.

Quoting B747forever (Reply 10):
So your final routing was LHR-DXB (VS) DXB-JFK (EK) JFK-ZRH-LHR (LX), right??

- Corrrect, flying 346, 388, 332 & 321, heck, not a single Boeing, something unthinkable some years ago.

Quoting B747forever (Reply 10):
How do they chose which pax have to go through SSSS???

- Lot's to do with one way tickets and late booking, it's not that effective IMHO.

Quoting Ag92 (Reply 11):
Another great TR, much appreciated

- Thank you sir.

Quoting StefanPAD (Reply 12):
Hi Mark,

great final legs of your trip.

- Glad you enjoyed Stefan, thanks for reading.

Quoting StefanPAD (Reply 12):
The meals are looking delicious

- They were too, I'd have paid for this quailty in a restaurant.

Quoting StefanPAD (Reply 12):
Maybe the Sprüngli Collection was served instead of the usual chocolates?

- Good point!

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 13):
Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 7):
though the lack of pre-board and the comments in ZRH did let the whole thing down a little.

A real shame indeed, i have never heard of or experienced this myself. The usual procedure is that they let C and star gold/platinum pax board at any time via a seperate line. I guess Swiss people get stressed a little when something isn't on time

- Quite a shame, but perhaps they were a little stressed with the delay and a full load?

Regards

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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Sun Aug 10, 2008 1:03 pm

Nice TR!

Long haul on LX looks fantastic.
The A32X short haul J is really good too, my experiences with LX have been excellent.

Im looking forward to a day when long haul J with LX is within my budget!

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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Sun Aug 10, 2008 3:46 pm

So this is where you were, while i was knocked out dead asleep on the A380 back to DXB!

Amazing report Mark! Was waiting for your final installment  Smile

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
I headed over to the Swiss lounge to chill out before my next flight.

A nice review of this lounge, as i will be using it prior to my EY flight back to AUH from JFK soon. Seems like a nice lounge!

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
emerged much refreshed in clean clothes, certainly felt more human, though I think the large quantities of booze EK supplied me were also having a wearing effect

Sounds like what i felt after my shower at EK's lounge haha

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
I must say I was really impressed, well done TSA!

They aren't that bad really. Some can be moody, however for the most part, they were great with me. I also think this 'SSSS' thing is just a few more additional generic steps of security screening.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
The last First occupant arrived, so tonight’s load up front consisted of 4 passengers out of a possible 12.

That's quite low actually. I wonder how they're doing on average.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
we left US soil at 21:53.

We were still on the ground by then! haha

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
and a cheesecake with a raspberry compot

Yum! Looks mouth-watering actually!

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
would be good to try out on a proper long haul.

Definitely! .. Ultra-Long-Haul is the way to go!  Smile

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
made 12 new birds, so a pretty good use of time.

And your second Aeroflot sighting during the trip  Wink


Thanks a lot for sharing mate! .. three of the best reports out there so far!


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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:34 pm

Thank you for such a wonderful series of trip reports. I enjoyed reading all of them.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Since I had a dreaded SSSS on my BP, the lounge agent suggested they escort me to the gate 10 minutes ahead of the normal time, this to ensure I did not suffer delays at security.

Do you have any idea why you got the SSSS? I mean, you are just a normal UK citizen right? I just don't understand.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
It appears the TSA agents have been on a customer service course as they were all extremely polite through out the whole experience

Wow, what an improvement. I cannot wait to see this when I fly to New York again.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Despite these being the old First Class seats, they were still very comfortable though the seat equipment, ife etc was showing it’s age.

I agree. The seats look pretty old and worn. Does SWISS already have new First Class seats?

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
the lady replied it was more important to get the economy passengers seated.

Mmmm... Did you argue with this? It is not even an excuse in my opinion, because the Business Class passengers paid so much more. Very poor.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
So this is where clouds are made

Hehehe... Nice one.

Once again, thank you for all your efforts.

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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:04 pm

Hi Mark,

interesting to read also about the last part of your trip, with Swiss First Class being an other highlight. The First Class product looks great, even if it were still the old seats.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
I had expected one of the much touted Swiss chocolates to be offered before landing, alas not to be - OA260 always seems to get these!

Maybe they didn't offer it to First Class passengers as you already got the "Sprüngli" chocolate selection which is of a much higher value, of course. But at least you got the "traditional" Swiss chocolate on ZRH-LHR.

Regards
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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:39 pm

great report! well done!

Quoting Globetraveller (Reply 17):
Do you have any idea why you got the SSSS? I mean, you are just a normal UK citizen right? I just don't understand.

as per my understanding all citizen from all coutnrys are screand
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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:34 pm

Hey Mark!! Hi from the BA LGW Terraces lounge.... Just got some time to kill so thought Id see if you had your TR up yet !! You are never going to believe this but you got a photo of my old house where I grew up . Couldnt believe it when I saw it. Well done mate. Its the one taken flying over Syon Park , the one before the BA hanger as you landed in LHR.

Great TR as always. Glad you liked Swiss, also glad you got your chocs on the last sector. I think the new F class will be alot better so you can take a ride next year and compare products. Still the space as you say is huge.

Thanks again.... looking forward to the next one...

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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:22 pm

Great TR as always! I really enjoyed reading it Big grin LX probably offer one of the best premium cabins of any European carrier  Smile

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 16):
They aren't that bad really. Some can be moody, however for the most part, they were great with me. I also think this 'SSSS' thing is just a few more additional generic steps of security screening.

I have experienced SSSS twice ex JFK and EWR and on both occasions the TSA agents where very professional and even courteous! The first time was a year after 9-11 and it just was an extra stringent security check with shoes, belts and watches off and a very strict pad down. They even had their own line and I was threw security faster than my friends that did not get SSSS on their boarding passes on both occasions Big grin


Does anyone know what, if anything, BA have planed for the mighty Concorde that they have parked at LHR?? Is if just going to sit there outside their hangar or do they have a museum/exibit of some sort planed??

Cheers
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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:38 pm



Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 15):
Nice TR!

Long haul on LX looks fantastic.
The A32X short haul J is really good too, my experiences with LX have been excellent.

- Thanks Brian, glad you enjoyed my trip  Smile

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 16):
So this is where you were, while i was knocked out dead asleep on the A380 back to DXB!

- Yep, slumming it in First Class!  Smile

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 16):
Amazing report Mark! Was waiting for your final installment

- Thanks Roni.

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 16):
A nice review of this lounge, as i will be using it prior to my EY flight back to AUH from JFK soon. Seems like a nice lounge!

- Ah, did wonder who you were using, look forward to the TR.

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 16):
Sounds like what i felt after my shower at EK's lounge haha

- It's just amazing what a shower can do for you when we travel like this, it really is worth paying the extra for at least J travel at times.

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 16):
That's quite low actually. I wonder how they're doing on average.

- Not sure, but it was the last flight of the day to ZRH & it's vacation time for the kid's may have something to do with it.

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 16):
Definitely! .. Ultra-Long-Haul is the way to go!

- Too right, if in F or J, not down In Y!

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 16):
Thanks a lot for sharing mate! .. three of the best reports out there so far!

- Very kind Roni, thanks  Smile

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 16):
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
and a cheesecake with a raspberry compot

Yum! Looks mouth-watering actually!

- It was fantastic!

Quoting Globetraveller (Reply 17):
Thank you for such a wonderful series of trip reports. I enjoyed reading all of them.

- Great, thanks  Smile

Quoting Globetraveller (Reply 17):
Do you have any idea why you got the SSSS? I mean, you are just a normal UK citizen right? I just don't understand.

- Anyone can get it, most likely I got it as I was travelling on a 1 way ticket.

Quoting Globetraveller (Reply 17):
Wow, what an improvement. I cannot wait to see this when I fly to New York again

- I was very impressed, just amazed really.

Quoting Globetraveller (Reply 17):
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Despite these being the old First Class seats, they were still very comfortable though the seat equipment, ife etc was showing it’s age.

I agree. The seats look pretty old and worn. Does SWISS already have new First Class seats?

- I think a new F produuct is on the way or has already been introduced, however the 332's days are numbered so unlikely to get the new cabin.

Quoting Globetraveller (Reply 17):
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
the lady replied it was more important to get the economy passengers seated.

Mmmm... Did you argue with this? It is not even an excuse in my opinion, because the Business Class passengers paid so much more. Very poor.

- Nope, too tired to bother.

Quoting Globetraveller (Reply 17):
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
So this is where clouds are made

Hehehe... Nice one.

- Thanks  Smile

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 18):
Hi Mark,

interesting to read also about the last part of your trip, with Swiss First Class being an other highlight. The First Class product looks great, even if it were still the old seats

- Agreed, still a pretty good product, had no complaints.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 18):
Maybe they didn't offer it to First Class passengers as you already got the "Sprüngli" chocolate selection which is of a much higher value, of course

- Good point.

Quoting Avianca (Reply 19):
great report! well done!

- Thanks!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 20):
You are never going to believe this but you got a photo of my old house where I grew up . Couldnt believe it when I saw it.

- Amazing!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 20):
Great TR as always. Glad you liked Swiss, also glad you got your chocs on the last sector. I think the new F class will be alot better so you can take a ride next year and compare products. Still the space as you say is huge.

- Well I've enough miles to do it again, let's see  Smile

Quoting SASDC8 (Reply 21):
Great TR as always! I really enjoyed reading it LX probably offer one of the best premium cabins of any European carrier

- I'd agree with that.

Quoting SASDC8 (Reply 21):
Does anyone know what, if anything, BA have planed for the mighty Concorde that they have parked at LHR?? Is if just going to sit there outside their hangar or do they have a museum/exibit of some sort planed??

- It actually belongs to BAA now, they were going to place it outside T5, not sure what happened to that idea.

Regards

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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:59 pm

Hi, Mark,

also "returning home" from a nice non-flying weekend in Austria with my wife
and ready to follow your story.

Great stuff, but, you know, nothing else expected according to our pre trip discussion.

Good to read about your positive JFK TSA experience, seems not everything is bad there nowadays.

Sounds you had a good time on LX.

I was also in ZRH last Wednesday, spotting some new planes from the non-secured area and touring around the airport
with the "Rundfahrten", especially that location at the runway cross is stunning,
thanks to fellow member Infodesk, perfectly arranged!.

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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:21 am

HI Mark,

Thanks also for this nice report. I tend to like the LX reports, must have something to do with my monthly payslip  Smile
Again you seem to have had a decent flight, although with the old interior.
I also doubt the 332 will be upgraded as they will be soon replaced by brandnew 333's.

Looking forward to your upcoming trips!
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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:31 pm



Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 23):
Hi, Mark,

also "returning home" from a nice non-flying weekend in Austria with my wife

- Excellent, trust you had a nice break & the weather held off.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 23):
Great stuff, but, you know, nothing else expected according to our pre trip discussion

- Yep, just as expected Smile

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 23):
Good to read about your positive JFK TSA experience, seems not everything is bad there nowadays.

- Certainly showing signs of improvement, customre service regardless of where is always important.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 23):
Sounds you had a good time on LX.

- Certainly did, look forward to more flights with them in the future.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 23):
was also in ZRH last Wednesday, spotting some new planes from the non-secured area and touring around the airport
with the "Rundfahrten", especially that location at the runway cross is stunning,
thanks to fellow member Infodesk, perfectly arranged!.

- Sounds great, got any pictures? Infodesk is a top girl!

Quoting DALCE (Reply 24):
I tend to like the LX reports, must have something to do with my monthly payslip

- Really  Wink

Quoting DALCE (Reply 24):
Again you seem to have had a decent flight, although with the old interior.

- Yes, it's pretty good, no complaints at all.

Quoting DALCE (Reply 24):
they will be soon replaced by brandnew 333's

- Looking forward to seeng those Trent powered birds  Smile

Regards

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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:23 pm

Fantastic report! I love reading about fellow LX travellers' experiences! Glad you enjoyed the flight.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
headed over to the Swiss lounge to chill out before my next flight.

Nice to see they're back at the old location. I love the view of T4 from here, especially when all three daily LX flights are at their gates together! Looks like ZRH! I was curious if the time in T1 would make the lounge get taken over by someone else, but good thing it hasn't been!

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Since I had a dreaded SSSS on my BP

That's a HUGE SSSS!!!!! haha

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Despite the short time in the lounge, I managed to note 13 new planes for my log.

Neos is operating for AeroSvit (from Kiev). Last time I was there (T4, I mean) it was an Aerosvit 767.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
I had expected one of the much touted Swiss chocolates to be offered before landing, alas not to be – OA260 always seems to get these!

Only offered on outbound legs. Flights FROM Switzerland, that is.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
That’s about it really and yes, we did get a famous Swiss chocolate on this flight

There you go!!

Quoting Globetraveller (Reply 17):
Does SWISS already have new First Class seats?

No. They've been more concerned with upgrading Business since it was a bit behind eveyrone else. There will almost definitely be a new first class (and another new Business) when the A333s come in, though for confirmation of that, see the Swiss Aviation threads in Civ-Av, as I don't recall off-hand if that's true.

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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:51 pm

Hi, Mark,

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 25):
- Excellent, trust you had a nice break & the weather held off.

For sure, weather was ok, nice spa hotel, show you the link by mail.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 25):
- Sounds great, got any pictures? Infodesk is a top girl!

My son accompanied me, so I´ve decided to spend the time mainly with him,
explaining whats going on.
We travelled by car, so no pix this time.
Infact, during our stay I´ve missed my cam!.
As earlier said, well arranged by Infodesk.

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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:45 am

Hola Mark!

Thanks again for a great TR.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
All in all I quite enjoyed the flight, though being quite a short flight, you don't get to feel the real First Class experience, would be good to try out on a proper long haul.

I was eager to read your comments on LX First service and I have to agree with you that it is necessary to go on a longer flight, SCL or SIN, to experience it at full bloom. I am saving my M&M miles to experience it one day in the coming future.

I see that you did not go into the Arrivals Lounge in ZRH. I have been there and I truly recommend the experience. The only push back is that you have to go trough passport control, it is, in fact, in Switzerland. Something I do not really understand. It is not really big but really clean and well kept. Showers are basic, but really it is all I need after a long flight.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Boarding actually started as 12:25, though there was no pre-board for Business Class, being dead beat and just wanting to get my seat I enquired at the desk as to the lack of pre board, the lady replied it was more important to get the economy passengers seated. I appreciate the flight was running late but why upset premium passengers??

I have always experienced that on LX intra-Europe flights. Even sometimes C class is asked to board the last as they fill up the plane.

Salut!

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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:00 pm



Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 26):
Fantastic report! I love reading about fellow LX travellers' experiences! Glad you enjoyed the flight.

- Great, glad you enjoyed the trip.

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 26):
I love the view of T4 from here, especially when all three daily LX flights are at their gates together! Looks like ZRH!

- Yes, excellent view and I can imagine howe ZRH like it would get!

Quoting ANITIX87 (Reply 26):
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
I had expected one of the much touted Swiss chocolates to be offered before landing, alas not to be – OA260 always seems to get these!

Only offered on outbound legs. Flights FROM Switzerland, that is.

- I see, thanks.

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 28):
Hola Mark!

Thanks again for a great TR.

- Thanks Roger  Smile

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 28):
I am saving my M&M miles to experience it one day in the coming future.

- Great, look forward to that one then!

Regards

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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:05 pm

Great report! I have not flown them since they were Swissair. Looks like they are still giving great service and glad to see that the chocolates did not go away, I was worried there for a moment. Can't wait to fly them again.
 
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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:38 pm



Quoting Davico68 (Reply 30):
Great report! I have not flown them since they were Swissair. Looks like they are still giving great service and glad to see that the chocolates did not go away, I was worried there for a moment. Can't wait to fly them again.

-Roll on that flight, hopefully they won't disapoint, I was more than happy  Smile

Regards

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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:41 pm

Awesome TR. Thanks for sharing. I absolutely agree that LX still has one of the best crew in Europe. KL comes close though. I wonder what the product differentiation will be when the new LX J comes in 2009.

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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Sat Aug 16, 2008 6:29 am



Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 32):
Awesome TR. Thanks for sharing

- Thanks for reading, glad you enjoyed.

Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 32):
I absolutely agree that LX still has one of the best crew in Europe. KL comes close though.

- They were real nice crew, on both flights actually. Not flown KL for many years so cannot comment, though looking at recent KL TR's that does seem to be the case.

Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 32):
I wonder what the product differentiation will be when the new LX J comes in 2009.

- I'm sure the new J will be pretty good, though ould, the F product is likely to hold it's own due to the space each seat has.

Regards

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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:07 pm

Good TR  Wink

I have allways wanted to know what Swiss is like now i know! Thx Big grin

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RE: Returning Home Via ZRH On Swiss

Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:58 pm



Quoting Xx787xX (Reply 34):
Good TR

I have allways wanted to know what Swiss is like now i know! Thx

- Thanks 787, glad you enjoyed the report.

Regards

Mark
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