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To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:28 pm

MissBA319-131 & I were off to Hawaii for 2 weeks, first stop though was New York City, here is part 1 of our trip.



20.08.08 BA175 747-436 G-BYGD 62KA - Club World
Route LHR-JFK
1st Flight on this aircraft & 15th 747 Flight
SCH DEP10:25 SCH ARR 12:55
ACT DEP10:38 ACT ARR 12:49


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The private car had arrived early for out 7am pick-up, in fact I noted him outside at 06:30, so with packing complete we headed out the door some 10 minutes early.

Traffic was light this morning, M25 speed restricted as normal in the mornings, that said pretty much all the time these days on this section!

Arrived at T5 at 07:20, not bad! - Found a free check-in machine then headed over to the so called Fast Bag Drop, this is a loose term as it was anything but this morning, large queue's in the otherwise tranquil terminal.

Bag's finally dropped - 4 of them! We headed to Travelex to pick up our US $, thankfully we bought them a week or 2 ago, the rate had dropped quite a bit since then. Anyway, another small queue, all down to what seems excessive paperwork for buying currency, amazing how we seem to make things difficult.

Job complete, now security, here too Fast Track was anything but fast! There was only one screening station open for Fast Track - hence it not living up to it's title. To top it all off, the screener managed to pick up and drop our wedding outfits, god only knows how he managed that, thankfully they were in suit carrier to help protect them, MissBA319-131 was about to kill the guy!...........

From initial check-in to bag drop, currency exchange and security it had taken roughly 50 minutes, not quick at all, even if you take out the time taken at the currency exchange.

I had planned to be in the lounge by 8am, we arrived a little later than planned but still had time for a small breakfast and wander around the shops, would have liked a glass of Champagne but none around as usual.

View from my seat in the lounge
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Food selections were excellent as usual, more than this!

really like the lounge, feel quite at home here.
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Sat here with a cup of coffee, I felt far more relaxed than I had done in the Virgin Clubhouse a few weeks back, it's so much more relaxed and quite, though I did like the waiter service in the Virgin lounge.
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The flight as per usual was departing from the B gates this morning, B37 to be precise, so we decided to leave the lounge with plenty of time
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Opps, who broke the glass?
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My plane Smile
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by the time we arrived, boarding had started.

Thankfully the priority boarding line was open today
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within no time we were a the aircraft doors, 2 friendly FA's on duty greeting passengers and checking boarding passes to point infrequent flyers in the right direction.

I had chose upper deck seats this time, so we headed up the stairs, greeted at the top by 2 friendly chaps who immediately relieved us of the 2 suit carriers, thank goodness for that, rid of them for the next 7 or so hours, thanks guy's!

Our seats today were 62 A & B, me being in A as I need the window. For those not in the know, 62 A & K are rear facing emergency exit seats, lot's of space between you and the next passenger, lovely!



Seat stowage tray
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We settled in, you know, books etc out, once seated one of our FA's appeared with water, OK or Champagne, we took the champagne, yes I know it was not 12:00, but it is somewhere in the world!
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The front door closed at 10:15, though final push did not occur until 10:38 as we had a couple of passengers with paperwork issues. If I'd not been keeping track of time for this TR, I'd not really have noticed as the crew came around to renew our champagne with another glass.
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Still odd seeing UA & US @ T1!
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Departure today was from 27L so we had a fairly lengthy taxi to the other side of the runway, most of the gates were empty given the time of day but 9V-SKB sat at the gate this morning.

No matter how many times I see the A380, I still stop and stare, (depending upon departure runway she passes over my house, so quiet compared to the 747, 777) kind of like I did when Concorde still graced our skies. Some say the 380 is ugly and squat, she is, some say they were underwhelmed when they first saw her, I get the ugly etc but, but underwhelemed? - she is huge,fantastic and I am happy to have flown 2 different A380's, she is something special which is quite apparent when I pass her sitting in an aging 747.

Back to the flight, we pulled onto 27L
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and turned up the gas, wheels leaving UK soil at 11:07.
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At 10:13, just 6 minutes after departure, the seat belt signs were off, 5 minutes later we had hot towels, amenity kits next drinks followed and dinner was served by 12:00, superb!
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I took the salad to start:-
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Nicole had a seafood meal as per her Exec Club profile, she got Smoked Salmon & salad to start.
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Chicken as the main - simple, but very nice
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Nicole had Dover sole.
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I changed to a red wine for dinner but switched after, I'm really a Rioja and Merlot man myself and there were note on the wine list  Sad

The menu said desert was a raspberry desert, however it turned out to be a chocolate moose with a raspberry filling, very tasty!


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For those that like to peruse menu's, here they are:-




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Bathroom
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Flying conditions were excellent today, very smooth indeed.
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At one stage we passed a Delta 767 but the Canon was not to hand,shame, would have made a great shot!

Part of the cabin
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The fleet is starting to look a little ratty
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Early hours and about 7 glasses of wine and champagne resulted in a 40 winks.

Our upper deck cabin was full, all 20 seats taken, there were some 4-5 seats free in lower deck CW, WTP was full and economy had a 2-3 seats left empty from what I saw. The BA Y product is pretty darn good, especially when you look at what UA had planned for flights out of IAD, but every time I see a packed economy cabin that reminds me why we I don't mind forking out extra for special occasions.
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After my walk of the plane I had another glass of champagne and listened to some music.
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After 5 hours 40 minutes of flying, afternoon tea was served.

We both took the Salad of Roasted Vegetables, an excellent option and the Orange tart was pretty good too. Resisting coffee for a change I took tea, usually rubbish on a plane, this was actually a really good cup!
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During the service, 1 of the crew gave me a carrier bag with 2 bottles of champagne, wrapped up in socks, nice touch, thanks guys!
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We began descent just after afternoon tea was finished.
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Weather outside looked superb, here are some descent shots, sorry about the reflection on them, nothing I could do.
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This is the best shot I could get of the engines from my seat!


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Touch down at 12:49 local time on the standard runway BA seem to use every time I land @ JFK, whilst good for the short taxi to the terminal, it's not so good for a bit of plane spotting en-route to the gate!
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Immigration was not too long, bag's were already on the belt when we came out and the chauffer was ready and waiting in arrivals.

All in all an excellent trip, the only downside being the time from check-in to getting airside.

Here are a few NYC pictures:-

Our Hotel
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View from the living room
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Met up with Roni for a few beers, thaks pal, was good to catch up!  Smile
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Hope you enjoyed the trip, next up CO in Business First from EWR to HNL.

Regards

Mark
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FLIEGER67
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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:48 pm

Hi, Mark,

congrats, for sure a famous story surrounded with good pics.

It seems BA offers a recommendable product on the LHR-JFK route.

Sounds like a good starter to you´re further intentions in New York.

Hope to read more soon,
Markus (FLIEGER67)
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CityofAthens
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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:08 pm

Glad the service was up to its reasonably good standard; thanks for the photos and report!

Yes the Jumbos are getting on now, you really notice their age in the galleys which of course tend to receive more wear and tear ... what makes me laugh is that the crew seats and bunks in the tail section still have the original seat fabric (blue, red dots) that were current on delivery of the first dozen or so -400s (-BNLA, LB, LC etc.)

Looking forward to reading about your CO BF experience ... I trust you had a pleasant stay in the Aloha state!  Smile
 
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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:53 pm

Excellent Trip Report!!! I love the cabin view pics. Awesome. Please keep up the great work.
Rgds,
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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:05 pm

A great report! Keep it up.

May I ask which hotel you are staying at in N.Y.? You got a great view Smile


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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:10 pm



Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
Hi, Mark,

congrats, for sure a famous story surrounded with good pics.

- Thanks Markus, very kind  Smile

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
It seems BA offers a recommendable product on the LHR-JFK route.

- Without doubt, the best to NYC fron LHR.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
Sounds like a good starter to you´re further intentions in New York.

- Very much so, was a really good start to the few days....... Smile

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
Hope to read more soon

- CO report should be up soon.

Quoting CityofAthens (Reply 2):
thanks for the photos and report!

- Thanks, glad you enjoyed.

Quoting CityofAthens (Reply 2):
what makes me laugh is that the crew seats and bunks in the tail section still have the original seat fabric (blue, red dots) that were current on delivery of the first dozen or so -400s (-BNLA, LB, LC etc.)

- Really?, never knew that, most interesting!

Quoting CityofAthens (Reply 2):
Looking forward to reading about your CO BF experience ... I trust you had a pleasant stay in the Aloha state!

- The Aloha state is great, can't wait to return, hopefully in 2010.

Quoting 744 (Reply 3):
Excellent Trip Report!!! I love the cabin view pics. Awesome. Please keep up the great work.
Rgds,
744

- Thanks, glad u liked.

Regards

Mark
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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:12 pm



Quoting Sodexho (Reply 4):
A great report! Keep it up.

- Thanks  Smile

Quoting Sodexho (Reply 4):
May I ask which hotel you are staying at in N.Y.? You got a great view

- Waldorf Astoria on Park Avenue, 12th floor

Regards

Mark
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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:45 pm

Nice view from the Waldorf, one of my favorite hotels in the city.
 
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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:15 am

Quite one of the best trip reports I have seen. Beautifully crafted. The photos are quite outstanding. It was like being a guest. Thank you! I look forward to the rest of the trip!
 
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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:23 am



Quoting B707forever (Reply 7):
Nice view from the Waldorf, one of my favorite hotels in the city.

- Agreed, a fantastic hotel, had my best ever steak there, can't wait to return!

Quoting Antskip (Reply 8):
Quite one of the best trip reports I have seen. Beautifully crafted. The photos are quite outstanding. It was like being a guest. Thank you! I look forward to the rest of the trip!

- Wow, that is very kind of you Antskip, hopefully I can manage to keep the rest of the trips to this standard  Smile

Regards

Mark
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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:11 am

Hey Mark!

Welcome back mate.

Thanks for another top class report from you! Your BA Trip Reports are the best of their kind!

Gotta love good old BA! I believe they are the most professional airline out there  Smile Smile

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
all down to what seems excessive paperwork for buying currency, amazing how we seem to make things difficult.

Seriously! why must you sign receipts and papers etc, and fill out forms, and so an and so forth?

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Still odd seeing SA)">UA & US @ T1!

Haha, i still think its odd to see US at LHR! Any US Airline other than United and American actually hehe

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Some say the 380 is ugly and squat, she is, some say they were underwhelmed when they first saw her, I get the ugly etc but, but underwhelemed?

Poor thing, she's not that ugly, but she's just a big old bear!

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
however it turned out to be a chocolate moose with a raspberry filling, very tasty!

Looks so good!

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
The BA Y product is pretty darn good,

Absolutely! .. keep in mind when they first introduced this Y product in the past, they were MILES ahead of all the others.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
whilst good for the short taxi to the terminal, it's not so good for a bit of plane spotting en-route to the gate!

Yea really! I like the runway that is accross from T4. Although lately ive been getting bored of the usual EK, AI, SA, SQ, LY morning mix, who are also allocated almost the same parking bays every time.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Met up with Roni for a few beers, thaks pal, was good to catch up!

Haha, yea it was fun! glad to catch up with you and get to meet Miss BA319-131!


Thanks a lot for sharing this! cant wait for the next!

Regards,
Roni
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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:02 am

Bravo,
Very entertaining trip report.And a very nice trip to be able to experience in luxury. Great pics as well.
What type of camera do you have ?
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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:19 am

Fantastic report so far!
And I must say, those pics from New York now really make me want to return!

Can't wait for the next segment!

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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:48 am

Hi Mark,

great report as usual, and for such a 'standard' flight as LHR-JFK you really made the read special.
I can't wait for your next reports to pop in.

Cheers,
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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:09 pm

Excellent Trip report!

It looks like BA is a very good product in Business and I hope to fly them one day. How do they compare to Air France? The design of their Business class cabin looks odd and not very elegant and warm.

I am looking forward to the CO trip report, hopefully you will have a great time in BF.
 
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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:30 pm

Thank you for the lovely trip report. Your pictures are excellent as always.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Found a free check-in machine then headed over to the so called Fast Bag Drop, this is a loose term as it was anything but this morning, large queue's in the otherwise tranquil terminal.

Was there not a Business Class check-in counter? Maybe that line would have been shorter than the 'Fast' Bag drop.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
We headed to Travelex to pick up our US $, thankfully we bought them a week or 2 ago, the rate had dropped quite a bit since then. Anyway, another small queue, all down to what seems excessive paperwork for buying currency, amazing how we seem to make things difficult.

You were either very smart or very lucky to buy the currency early. I was in the UK last week and I was delighted at the falling value of the pound.  Smile

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
wedding outfits

I assume that you went to Hawaii to get married. Sorry if I am wrong, but congratulations if I am correct!!!  Smile

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Food selections were excellent as usual, more than this!

Very nice. LH and AF should take a look and give their Business Class lounges a little update.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
yes I know it was not 12:00, but it is somewhere in the world!

Hehehe... The 12 o'clock rule does not count on an aircraft!  Smile

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Nicole had Dover sole.

Mmmm... I am inclined to say that the Dover sole looked better than your chicken. What did you think?

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
The menu said desert was a raspberry desert, however it turned out to be a chocolate moose with a raspberry filling, very tasty!

That looks really good...  Smile

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
The fleet is starting to look a little ratty

Wow, I am surprised that BA do not take better care of their premium cabins. An old a/c should not be an excuse for ratty looking cabin in my opinion.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
During the service, 1 of the crew gave me a carrier bag with 2 bottles of champagne, wrapped up in socks, nice touch, thanks guys!

Nice touch!! Its always good to hear that personalised service still exists these days.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Hope you enjoyed the trip, next up CO in Business First from EWR to HNL.

I sure did!! I cannot wait for more!

Thank you again for putting in the effort to post this TR Mark.

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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:59 pm

Great report as usual, keep up the good work!

Definitely that 744 is showing some wear and tear... But the NNCW seats look great, unfortunately my next CW flight is on a 777 so not likely to get those I guess.

Your suite at the WA looks very nice as well.

Regards,

Lari
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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:44 pm

With regards to the wear and tear very expertly documented by BA319, I must agree that it is completely unacceptable for an airline that aspires to global excellence .... the problem is that in a busy cabin or service, some crew overlook/miss these small tears here and there, and as a result they don't get reported for the Senior crew to write down in the tech log.

The other problem is that our engineering colleagues are probably working hard on other problems around the aircraft (especially that AVOD system!!) and this means that peeling trim and torn lining etc. are not high priority (although it does get fixed eventually)

Nevertheless, I completely agree ... it's embarrassing for us when the passengers come on.

I think the food presentation needs improvement!

BA319 did I miss the fact that you were recently married? I'm so sorry ... if so congratulations! Big grin
 
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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:12 pm

Hi all, thanks for so many reads and comments, got a few replies:-

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 10):
Hey Mark!

Welcome back mate.

- Thanks Roni, I'd like to say it's nice to be home but I'd rather still be on Waikiki beech!

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 10):
Thanks for another top class report from you! Your BA Trip Reports are the best of their kind!

- Thanks Roni, very kind.

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 10):
Gotta love good old BA! I believe they are the most professional airline out there

- I sure would like to think they are and most of the time I do think they deliver excellent service.

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 10):
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
all down to what seems excessive paperwork for buying currency, amazing how we seem to make things difficult.

Seriously! why must you sign receipts and papers etc, and fill out forms, and so an and so forth?

- I've no idea and all for a few hunderd bucks!

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 10):
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Still odd seeing SA)">UA & US @ T1!

Haha, i still think its odd to see US at LHR! Any US Airline other than United and American actually hehe

- True, along with DL,NW & CO

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 10):
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Some say the 380 is ugly and squat, she is, some say they were underwhelmed when they first saw her, I get the ugly etc but, but underwhelemed?

Poor thing, she's not that ugly, but she's just a big old bear!

- Good call, big old bear, like that!

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 10):
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
however it turned out to be a chocolate moose with a raspberry filling, very tasty!

Looks so good!

- It was, would have had another but I was being good  Sad

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 10):
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Met up with Roni for a few beers, thaks pal, was good to catch up!

Haha, yea it was fun! glad to catch up with you and get to meet Miss BA319-131!

- Thanks, we really enjoyed ourselves, look forward to the next time.

So, I'm looking forward to your EY & NW TR's soon!

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 11):
Bravo,
Very entertaining trip report.And a very nice trip to be able to experience in luxury. Great pics as well.

- Thanks, glad you enjoyed.

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 11):
What type of camera do you have ?

- I use 2, a Canon EOS 400D & a Sony DSC-T9.

Quoting FlyingKangaroo (Reply 12):
Fantastic report so far!
And I must say, those pics from New York now really make me want to return!

- Thanks & NYC is a great city, I miss it again already and i've been twice this year!

Quoting DALCE (Reply 13):
Hi Mark,

great report as usual, and for such a 'standard' flight as LHR-JFK you really made the read special.

- Thanks Joost, you are right as this route is such a regular trunk route and has a fair number of TR's it can be a little of a dull route & read.

Quoting Bentley55 (Reply 14):
Excellent Trip report!

- Thanks  Smile

Quoting Bentley55 (Reply 14):
It looks like BA is a very good product in Business and I hope to fly them one day. How do they compare to Air France? The design of their Business class cabin looks odd and not very elegant and warm.

- Good question. Not flown AF longhaul or even any AF flight since 1992 so difficult to comment, however based on the AF TR's posted here, BA's Club World product is far superior to the current AF offerings. Regarding the BA cabin design, it really is excellent, allowing couples to sit together or apart and offer a good deal of privacy to those passengers who so desire it, a great design and very comfortable seats.

Quoting Bentley55 (Reply 14):
I am looking forward to the CO trip report,

- Should be up over the weekend.

Quoting Globetraveller (Reply 15):
Thank you for the lovely trip report. Your pictures are excellent as always.

- Thanks, I do try to get a real feel for the flight.

Quoting Globetraveller (Reply 15):
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Found a free check-in machine then headed over to the so called Fast Bag Drop, this is a loose term as it was anything but this morning, large queue's in the otherwise tranquil terminal.

Was there not a Business Class check-in counter? Maybe that line would have been shorter than the 'Fast' Bag drop.

- Initially T5 was designed without any dedicated Club Europe/World check-in desks, BA changed their mind however these only opened after we returned.

Quoting Globetraveller (Reply 15):
I was in the UK last week and I was delighted at the falling value of the pound.

- I'm sure your were  Smile

Quoting Globetraveller (Reply 15):
I assume that you went to Hawaii to get married. Sorry if I am wrong, but congratulations if I am correct!!!

- Thanks, actually married in Central Park NYC, honeymoon in Hawaii.

Quoting Globetraveller (Reply 15):
Hehehe... The 12 o'clock rule does not count on an aircraft!

- Great, another man on my wave length!

Quoting Globetraveller (Reply 15):
Mmmm... I am inclined to say that the Dover sole looked better than your chicken. What did you think?

- You could be right, though I did enjoy the chicken, was actually moist, something airlines have trouble with.

Quoting Globetraveller (Reply 15):
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
The fleet is starting to look a little ratty

Wow, I am surprised that BA do not take better care of their premium cabins. An old a/c should not be an excuse for ratty looking cabin in my opinion.

- The seats are fine, just the original factory fittings that are starting to show their age.

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 16):
Great report as usual, keep up the good work!

- Thanks Lari  Smile

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 16):
Definitely that 744 is showing some wear and tear... But the NNCW seats look great, unfortunately my next CW flight is on a 777 so not likely to get those I guess.

- The new seats and layout is excellent, in fact I prefer the layout and seats over EK's A380 J class seats - and they were pretty nice! Most of the 777 fleet are indeed still with the original CW seat, I think there are now 3 or 4 with the new layout, fingers crossed for you.

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 16):
Your suite at the WA looks very nice as well.

- Sure was, actually was huge, lounge, reception area, kitchen area, bedroom, massive bathroom area and a huge changing/store room, more closet space than I have at home!shame we never really had a chance to use it all.

Kind Regards

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Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:25 pm

Hi CityofAthens,

Quoting CityofAthens (Reply 17):
With regards to the wear and tear very expertly documented by BA319, I must agree that it is completely unacceptable for an airline that aspires to global excellence .... the problem is that in a busy cabin or service, some crew overlook/miss these small tears here and there, and as a result they don't get reported for the Senior crew to write down in the tech log.

The other problem is that our engineering colleagues are probably working hard on other problems around the aircraft (especially that AVOD system!!) and this means that peeling trim and torn lining etc. are not high priority (although it does get fixed eventually)

Nevertheless, I completely agree ... it's embarrassing for us when the passengers come on.

- I can see how stuff get's overlooked or missed, but it's a shame as it's a poor reflection on the high standards that the airline tries to uphold.

Quoting CityofAthens (Reply 17):
I think the food presentation needs improvement!

- I myself think it looks ok, though AA did impress me the other day, something I was not expecting!

Quoting CityofAthens (Reply 17):
BA319 did I miss the fact that you were recently married? I'm so sorry ... if so congratulations!

- Yes on the 23rd & thanks  Smile

Kind Regards

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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:16 pm



Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Hope you enjoyed the trip,

Hi Mark,

yes I did like your trip. Would have loved to be your companion LOL!
arghhh... longhaul in business. About 1½ months to go for my upcoming flighs in C.
btw, hope to read your CO experiences soon...

Cheers,
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Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:59 am

Hi Eric,

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 20):
Would have loved to be your companion LOL!

- I'm sure we would have had a blast!  Smile

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 20):
About 1½ months to go for my upcoming flighs in C

- Cool, look forward to the TR.

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 20):
btw, hope to read your CO experiences soon...

- Sure, will be up by the end of the weekend  Smile

Regards

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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:40 am

Hola Mark!

Thanks again for this nice TR.

Although this route gets a high percentage of attention here, it is always nice to have different insights.


Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Chicken as the main - simple, but very nice

Ahhhhhhhh! The simple pleasures of life  Big grin

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
I'm really a Rioja and Merlot man myself and there were note on the wine list

No Rioja? And BA has signed an agreement merger with IB?

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
During the service, 1 of the crew gave me a carrier bag with 2 bottles of champagne, wrapped up in socks, nice touch, thanks guys!

That very same thing happened to me on BA, except the purser added some Bailey's, vodka and whiskey to his offer.... not bad for that TXL-LHR flight.

Salut!

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Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:36 pm



Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 22):
Hola Mark!

Thanks again for this nice TR.

- Hi Roger, thanks mate, glad you liked  Smile

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 22):
Although this route gets a high percentage of attention here, it is always nice to have different insights

- Yes, it is well travelled, I think that's why we like the TR's so much, we can keep an eye on how the service and competition are doing.

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 22):
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Chicken as the main - simple, but very nice

Ahhhhhhhh! The simple pleasures of life

- Funny really but some times simple food is the best!

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 22):
No Rioja? And BA has signed an agreement merger with IB?

- I know, pretty poor!  Smile

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 22):
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
During the service, 1 of the crew gave me a carrier bag with 2 bottles of champagne, wrapped up in socks, nice touch, thanks guys!

That very same thing happened to me on BA, except the purser added some Bailey's, vodka and whiskey to his offer.... not bad for that TXL-LHR flight.

- I'd say not, impressive!

Best Wishes

Mark
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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:50 pm

Very nice TR and pics as usual Mark. I was a bit surprised to see the state of the cabin interior though. They certainly need touched up.

Thanks for the report.

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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:34 pm

Hi Philip,

Thanks for reading and your comments:-

Quoting Oa260 (Reply 24):
Very nice TR and pics as usual Mark

- Thanks mate  Smile

Quoting Oa260 (Reply 24):
I was a bit surprised to see the state of the cabin interior though. They certainly need touched up.

- So was I, never really noticed before, was the same on the plane home, BNLM, that was tatty too.

Regards

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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:56 pm

Nice TR Mark! Lovely pictures. The seats look very good, and I guess BA must be one if the best choices on the LON-NYC market.

BTW the view from your hotel living room was awesome , a really good picture.

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Sat Sep 13, 2008 6:40 am



Quoting Ojas (Reply 26):
Nice TR Mark! Lovely pictures. The seats look very good, and I guess BA must be one if the best choices on the LON-NYC market.

- Thanks Ojas. BA are by far the best choice on this route, unless the competition are substantually cheaper I'd not even give them a look in, unless AA started flying A340-500's or some thing like that, never going to happen!

Quoting Ojas (Reply 26):
BTW the view from your hotel living room was awesome , a really good picture

- Thanks. View was pretty impressive I must admit, great at night too!

Regards

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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:12 pm

Hi Mark,

once again an excellent report and a great selection of pictures.

Flying the B 747 in the upper deck must be a nice experience - probably much quieter than on the main deck.

Regards
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Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:56 am



Quoting Contact Air (Reply 28):
once again an excellent report and a great selection of pictures

- Thanks Christoph

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 28):
Flying the B 747 in the upper deck must be a nice experience - probably much quieter than on the main deck

- The upper deck in BA's configuration is indeed quieter than the lower deck. a very nice place to spend a long trip.

Regards

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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Mon Sep 15, 2008 7:00 am



Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 6):



Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 6):
Quoting Sodexho (Reply 4):
May I ask which hotel you are staying at in N.Y.? You got a great view

- Waldorf Astoria on Park Avenue, 12th floor

Regards

Mark

And what was your opinion of the Waldorf Hotel?
In my opinition there are quite better hotels in NY than this grand history hotel.

Nevertheless, thank you for the first part of your trip report! Superb!
 
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Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:17 pm



Quoting Andie007 (Reply 30):
And what was your opinion of the Waldorf Hotel?
In my opinition there are quite better hotels in NY than this grand history hotel.

- I thought is was great, service and everything was just excellent, certainly would stay there again, love the feeling of history in this place. I met some of the nicest hotel staff I have ever met during our stay, just superb!

I normally use the Hilton on 6th Ave which is great too.

Quoting Andie007 (Reply 30):
thank you for the first part of your trip report! Superb!

- Thanks  Smile
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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Fri Sep 19, 2008 5:24 pm

As usual, a very enjoyable report, Mark. And allow me to congratulate you for getting married!

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Chicken as the main - simple, but very nice

Both the chicken and the fish don't look overwhelming, but taste is what matters in the end.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
The menu said desert was a raspberry desert, however it turned out to be a chocolate moose with a raspberry filling, very tasty!

Mark - is it really necessary to post a CLOSE-UP of the dessert?  Wink

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Part of the cabin

The interior looks really outdated compared to the latest designs.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
View from the living room

Exellent view!


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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:19 am



Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 32):
As usual, a very enjoyable report, Mark. And allow me to congratulate you for getting married!

- Hi PH & thanks  Smile

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 32):
Both the chicken and the fish don't look overwhelming, but taste is what matters in the end.

- Correct, taste is the important one but asthetics go a long way too.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 32):
is it really necessary to post a CLOSE-UP of the dessert?

- Only it it was good  Smile

Best Wishes

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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:38 pm

Great TR! Thanks for posting!

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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:22 pm

Hi there,

Excellent report as to be expected from you Smile.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
would have liked a glass of Champagne but none around as usual.

I don't know about T5, but in any other Terraces i've been in i've had to request it and it is brought to you.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
The fleet is starting to look a little ratty



Quoting Globetraveller (Reply 15):
An old a/c should not be an excuse for ratty looking cabin in my opinion.

The interesting thing is that this a/c isn't actually that old. It's one of the newest 744's in the fleet, taking to the skies in 1999, after some of the 777's and more than 10 after other 744's in the fleet. However, yes there are indeed signs of wear and tear onboard and these should be seen to. I find the worst area is the foam-like tubes pushed in between wardrobe and divider tops and the cabin ceiling that pop out and can be hanging loose. Overall though I think that all the longhaul fleet is pretty good.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
Resisting coffee for a change I took tea, usually rubbish on a plane, this was actually a really good cup!

The tea is always much better than that coffee Wink

The Astoria looks nice, I wondered what it was like inside, certainly worth looking into.

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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:55 am

great report, the Upper Deck of a 747 is the way to travel, so much quieter up there and i also found that turbulence is muted up there too, now if only i could afford to fly business class i'd have it made!

BTW, how did you find flying backwards to be?
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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Mon Sep 29, 2008 7:18 pm



Quoting NorthstarBoy (Reply 36):
great report,

- Thanks for reading  Smile

Quoting NorthstarBoy (Reply 36):
the Upper Deck of a 747 is the way to travel, so much quieter up there

- Certainly is.

Quoting NorthstarBoy (Reply 36):
i also found that turbulence is muted up there too

- Interesting, not really noticed that, will have to hope on some turbulance on my next seat upstairs!

Quoting NorthstarBoy (Reply 36):
BTW, how did you find flying backwards to be

- Like it, don't really notice a difference except on take off.

Regards

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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Tue Sep 30, 2008 1:24 am

Great report as per usual Mark - I had my first CW Upper deck flight in 64A in late July and had a great flight from EZE-LHR which reminds me to get cracking and post the report on here.

Looking forward to catching up with your other ones.
 
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RE: To Hawaii Via NYC With BA

Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:14 pm



Quoting Comeflywithme (Reply 38):
Great report as per usual Mark

- Thanks very much, good to hear from you  Smile

Quoting Comeflywithme (Reply 38):
I had my first CW Upper deck flight in 64A in late July and had a great flight from EZE-LHR which reminds me to get cracking and post the report on here.

- Great, look forward to it, soon hopefully  Smile

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