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BA EDI - LCY Operated By Flightine

Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:12 pm

I had to change my flights to/from Edinburgh, whilst in the process I noted that Flightine were operating a BAe 146-200 for BA on the EDI-LCY route. The --200 is missing from my flown log, despite the real inconvenience of getting home from LCY booking the flight was a no brainer.

The flight to EDI was from LGW on G-DOCH (3rd flight on this aircraft), flight was on-time with about 30 passengers, was the 06:30 flight, I was a bit tired so no report for this sector.



16.10.08 BA8719 Bae 146-200 G-FLTB 3A
1st Flight on this aircraft & 1st BAe 146-200 flight
SCH DEP 12:35 SCH ARR 14:10
ACT DEP 12:23 ACT ARR 13:33


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I arrived back at Edinburgh's rental car return & dropped off my Discovery, nice car BTW!

The bus to the terminal was pretty prompt and I was inside the terminal at 11am, checked in and headed through security, despite a bit of a queue, it moved quickly and I was airside by 10 past 11.

Not much action of interest at this time of day, though there were 3 BA machines at all getting ready to head south to London.

The BA Terraces was pretty empty, at one point I had the lounge to myself - I guess I'd missed the rush!
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Got a coffee and checked e-mails and made a few calls until boarding was called, the time was 12:05.

The chair arms are really starting to look pretty grubby!
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Our flight today was departing from Gate 17, not had one form there before, so made a nice change to see a new bit of the terminal -- this area is quite new, some areas of it are still under construction.
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My plane
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Next door
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Boarding actually started at 12:15
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I could see this would be quite a light flight, however the final load was 9, of which 3 were BA crew deadheading -- a very light load indeed!
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The crew consisted of a male and one female, both were Flightline staff and were pretty cheerful.

Despite this aircraft being built in 1984, it was in pretty good condition, the seats were very comfortable.
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Push back occurred ahead of schedule at 12:23, sort taxi out to the active and wheels were up at 12:32.



Once released the crew offered a Smoked Salmon and Egg mayo sub, was pretty tasty -- I took a snack thing and beer with it.
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Numerous re-fill offers were made, however I declined as I still had to drive when I recovered the car from Heathrow.

Quite a nice day for flying

Looking behind me
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Out the window
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It go a bit bumpy as we approached London, however it smoothed out once we started finals.

I've not flown into LCY since 1992, that was on a Brymon Dash 7 -- I'd forgotten how steep descent into the airport was!
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Wheels touched down at 13:33, some 37 minutes ahead of schedule, quite impressive.

Once on stand we had to wait some 10 minutes to disembark as the ground crew too their time to arrive.

Last look
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I was in the arrivals area at 13:47.

As nice as it was being early, Nicole was picking me up, aiming to arrive for my scheduled arrival time.

All in all a very nice flight with excellent service from the Flightline crew, though I'm sure a full flight with the 3-3 configuration would be less enjoyable.

Hope you enjoyed, thanks for reading.

Kind Regards

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RE: BA EDI - LCY Operated By Flightine

Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:04 pm

Hi, Mark
such a great catch by you. And what a comfortable ride it was with this load. Not a moneymaker for BA.
Good service it seems, enough food/drinks at least, for this kind of flight.

Cheers,
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Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:36 pm



Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
I arrived back at Edinburgh's rental car return & dropped off my Discovery, nice car BTW!

I would love one of those, they are great all purpose cars and you can buy them fairly cheaply second hand, but even so it's difficult finding an insurance company to give you a quote when you're 21.

Great report as normal Mark, thanks for taking the time to write; it did indeed look like a great day for flying, but I do find it slightly odd that there is a BA flight at 12:35 and another at 13:10 - just 35 mins apart! I know multiple frequencies are useful to business travellers, but it just seems a little pointless to me and, the load on your flight reflects that.

Keep them coming  yes 


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RE: BA EDI - LCY Operated By Flightine

Fri Oct 17, 2008 12:56 am

Nice, short TR.

The pics are good.

Wow, what a light load. Amazing. And as Plymspotter said, it is odd that they have two flights to LCY within 35minutes.


Thank you for sharing

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RE: BA EDI - LCY Operated By Flightine

Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:44 am

Hi Mark,

Nice and neat report with some nice shots!
Congrats on the 146-200 a type still missing in my log too  Sad
I'm surprised that the loads are so light, I had expected full(er) flights, as a very thrustworthy source always tells me  Smile

Thanks for sharing!
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RE: BA EDI - LCY Operated By Flightine

Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:27 am

Hi Mark,
Nice report. The loads certainly were light and looking at the departure board in the lounge BA still have a good presence at EDI.

A/C looked nice, some dont like the BAE146 but its growing on me. Maybe I have not been on a packed one yet and thats the reason.

I have never flown in or out of LCY but have visited it back when Brymon used to operate with London City Airways! Those were the days.

Thanks for the report and looking forward to the next one.

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RE: BA EDI - LCY Operated By Flightine

Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:57 am

Hola Mark!

Thanks for the TR.

Are you sure that sunny ramp, sun light  Cool was in EDI?  Wink

BA Terraces look always very nice around the world, and this one in EDI is no exception, sorry to see some details showing its age; they need tio visit the nearest IKEA, no money for Laura Ashley right now, and get themselves some new furniture.

I always like flying with thses planes.... although having a 3-3 seating on them feels quite cramped. Anyway with a total passenger load of 9 that was not the main issue that particular day I guess.

I am having a flight with one of those Avros at the end of the month: BCN-BSL-BCN.

Salut!

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RE: BA EDI - LCY Operated By Flightine

Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:16 am

Impressed that they serve smoked salmon sandwiches. But I suppose in Scotland it's not such a luxury as it's a specialty from there.
 
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RE: BA EDI - LCY Operated By Flightine

Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:15 pm

Nice report as always Mark, thanks!

I flew on that aircraft when it was EI-CZO operating with WX. It looks in good shape despite the age, but that light load also made for a nice flight. Most of my flights on that aircraft type have been connecting flights through CDG and were rarely less than 80% full... slightly cramped!

Again, thanks for the report.
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Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:29 pm

Very nice report Mark!

I don't think i have flown the BAe146 before. Nice looking engines for sure!

I love LCY! .. have toured the airport back when i was in college, and it was brilliant!

One thing though, that specific Terraces lounge does not seem to be up to BA's usual standards!

Thanks a lot for sharing! Hope all is well with you  Smile

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RE: BA EDI - LCY Operated By Flightine

Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:32 pm

Hi, Mark,

well done, sounds like a real good deal to catch the 146-200 against the usual
Airbus planes there.
And together with such a light load, real interesting.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
1st Flight on this aircraft & 1st BAe 146-200 flight

Congrats, hope to catch another one next week for my log.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
I've not flown into LCY since 1992, that was on a Brymon Dash 7 -- I'd forgotten how steep descent into the airport was!

Something on the to-do-list for next year.

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Fri Oct 17, 2008 10:28 pm

Very nice report and very nice aircraft. The Flightline 146 looks a lot newer(!!) and nicer than the WDL Aviation 146 I use for my weekly trips to TLS.
Still it's a very special aircraft, from the aerodynamic noise coming from the flaps during extension and retraction to the always really smooth touchdowns, to the tail brake extending during cruise to control the speed...
I hate being cramped in a 146 week after week, but this machine has personality...
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RE: BA EDI - LCY Operated By Flightine

Sat Oct 18, 2008 3:05 am

Hi Mark,

A very nice TR, enjoyed it!

The BAe146 really looks ... urm .. cute I would say  wink . The pictures were good and the best was the one with the can of Heineken, LOL.

BTW do you guys have a wide body option while traveling within UK?
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Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:18 am

Hi All, thanks for you reads and comments, good to hear from you all  Smile

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 1):
Hi, Mark
such a great catch by you

- I know!  Smile

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 1):
Not a moneymaker for BA

- No, pretty poor, whilst waiting for Nicole, the next flight from EDI came in, that was an AR1 with 23 passengers, again a poor load.

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 2):
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
I arrived back at Edinburgh's rental car return & dropped off my Discovery, nice car BTW!

I would love one of those, they are great all purpose cars and you can buy them fairly cheaply second hand, but even so it's difficult finding an insurance company to give you a quote when you're 21.

- I'll say, remember when I had to insure cars at that age, quite costly!

Quoting B747forever (Reply 3):
Wow, what a light load. Amazing. And as Plymspotter said, it is odd that they have two flights to LCY within 35minutes.

- I think it might be slot related, thanks for reading  Smile

Quoting DALCE (Reply 4):
Hi Mark,

Nice and neat report with some nice shots!

- Thanks Joost  Smile

Quoting DALCE (Reply 4):
Congrats on the 146-200 a type still missing in my log too

- They are starting to get a little thin on the ground so best catch it whilst it's relatively easy.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 5):
Hi Mark,
Nice report

- Thanks Philip.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 5):
The loads certainly were light and looking at the departure board in the lounge BA still have a good presence at EDI.

- I know, almost like being at LHR!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 5):
Brymon used to operate with London City Airways! Those were the days.

- I know, Dash 7 heaven back them!

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 6):
Are you sure that sunny ramp, sun light was in EDI?

- The weather was lovely, cold but nice and sunny.

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 6):
BA Terraces look always very nice around the world, and this one in EDI is no exception, sorry to see some details showing its age; they need tio visit the nearest IKEA, no money for Laura Ashley right now, and get themselves some new furniture.

- The lounge is fine, just need new furniture, all the sofas & chairs are like this.

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 6):
I am having a flight with one of those Avros at the end of the month: BCN-BSL-BCN.

- Thanks for reading Roger - look forward to report.

Quoting Semsem (Reply 7):
Impressed that they serve smoked salmon sandwiches

- They were very tasty.

Quoting EIDAA (Reply 8):
Nice report as always Mark, thanks!

- Thanks for reading  Smile

Quoting EIDAA (Reply 8):
I flew on that aircraft when it was EI-CZO operating with WX

- Interesting, never really looked into the history of this plane.

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 9):
Very nice report Mark!

- Thanks Roni, good to hear from you.

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 9):
I don't think i have flown the BAe146 before. Nice looking engines for sure!

- A bit rare in your part of the world!  Smile

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 9):
One thing though, that specific Terraces lounge does not seem to be up to BA's usual standards!

- Was fine apart from the aging furniture.

Quoting Ronerone (Reply 9):
Thanks a lot for sharing! Hope all is well with you

- All's good thanks - still waiting from your NW TR!  Smile

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 10):
Hi, Mark,

well done, sounds like a real good deal to catch the 146-200 against the usual
Airbus planes there.

- Hi Markus, sure makes a change from the usual!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 10):
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
1st Flight on this aircraft & 1st BAe 146-200 flight

Congrats, hope to catch another one next week for my log.

- Thanks, was a good catch for sure. Look forward to your next jolly, Eurowings machine?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 10):
Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
I've not flown into LCY since 1992, that was on a Brymon Dash 7 -- I'd forgotten how steep descent into the airport was!

Something on the to-do-list for next year.

- And I need to fly out of it, not done that yet.

Quoting Kaneporta1 (Reply 11):
Very nice report and very nice aircraft. The Flightline 146 looks a lot newer(!!) and nicer than the WDL Aviation 146 I use for my weekly trips to TLS.

- Thanks for reading,. Despite being 24 years ol, this plane looks well maintained.

Quoting Ojas (Reply 12):
Hi Mark,

A very nice TR, enjoyed it!

- Thanks for reading Ojas.

Quoting Ojas (Reply 12):
The BAe146 really looks ... urm .. cute I would say . The pictures were good and the best was the one with the can of Heineken, LOL.

- The plane sure us cute  Smile

Quoting Ojas (Reply 12):
BTW do you guys have a wide body option while traveling within UK?

- Not really, every now and again BA put a 763 on some domestics to EDI but it's pretty rare.

Regards

Mark
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RE: BA EDI - LCY Operated By Flightine

Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:37 pm



Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 1):
Not a moneymaker for BA.

Wouldn't surprise me if that flight made a profit with 0 passengers  Wink
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RE: BA EDI - LCY Operated By Flightine

Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:36 pm

Thanks Mark for another great TR. EDI is my home base, and it's nice to see inside the BA Terraces Lounge - I've never visited this lounge as SkyTeam use the Servisair facility.

I'm not a huge fan of the BAe 146-200, however I've taken a few flights on the EDI-LCY route with BA. I love the approach into LCY. Some great views, but it really is steep! I always liked the ScotAirways service on the Dornier 328 turboprop for this approach in particular.
 
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RE: BA EDI - LCY Operated By Flightine

Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:51 pm



Quoting Conrad1402 (Reply 15):
Thanks Mark for another great TR

- Thanks, glad you liked  Smile

Quoting Conrad1402 (Reply 15):
I've taken a few flights on the EDI-LCY route with BA. I love the approach into LCY. Some great views, but it really is steep!

- Too right, the approach is great - weather permitting & yes, it is steep!

Regards

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RE: BA EDI - LCY Operated By Flightine

Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:27 am

Great pics as usual Mark.

Yes they call that route the "bankers express" as it is sponsored by the Royal Bank of Scotland . Big grin
They buy up so many seats which makes it viable to run even with so few passengers.
 
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RE: BA EDI - LCY Operated By Flightine

Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:13 pm

Nice report, indeed that was a very light load. The mid afternoon flights are always the quietest but never seen one that quiet before. The peak rush hour flights are always very busy although with the current financial climate even the loads on those flights have dropped a bit.
 
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RE: BA EDI - LCY Operated By Flightine

Thu Oct 23, 2008 3:52 pm

Hi Mark,

I quite enjoy reading "operated by" trip reports, as it always indicates some change from the normal. This report made no exception, BA operated by Flightline is probably quite rare, in fact I didn't even know BA had a Flightline BAe chartered - but as it's carrying BA titles, I guess this wetlease will last longer than just for a few weeks.

As others already pointed out, the load factor on this flight is amazing, especially given the fact that there was another EDI-LCY flight just a bit later.

Always a pleasure to read your UK reports! Regards, Alex.
 
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RE: BA EDI - LCY Operated By Flightine

Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:14 am



Quoting Comeflywithme (Reply 17):
Great pics as usual Mark.

- Thanks, good to hear from you.

Quoting ScottishLaddie (Reply 18):
The mid afternoon flights are always the quietest but never seen one that quiet before

- As a passenger, mid afternoon is always good, but not normally this good!

Quoting Ndebele (Reply 19):
BA operated by Flightline is probably quite rare, in fact I didn't even know BA had a Flightline BAe chartered - but as it's carrying BA titles, I guess this wetlease will last longer than just for a few weeks.

- Hi Alex. I think these birds also fly to DUB for BA.

Regards

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RE: BA EDI - LCY Operated By Flightine

Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:27 pm

Hi Mark,

interesting report and some great pics.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
I had to change my flights to/from Edinburgh, whilst in the process I noted that Flightine were operating a BAe 146-200 for BA on the EDI-LCY route. The --200 is missing from my flown log, despite the real inconvenience of getting home from LCY booking the flight was a no brainer.

I also wouldn't have hesitated to book a flight on this special aircraft.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
I've not flown into LCY since 1992, that was on a Brymon Dash 7 -- I'd forgotten how steep descent into the airport was!

Flying into LCY is always great - usually the approach offers some very good views to the City of London. My flights into LCY were on a Sabena Dash 8 (well, those were the days...) and on a Lufthansa Regional / Contact Air ATR 42.

Regards
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Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:17 am



Quoting Contact Air (Reply 21):
Hi Mark,

interesting report and some great pics.

- Thanks Christoph

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 21):
I also wouldn't have hesitated to book a flight on this special aircraft

- Good to see I'm not alone then!  Smile

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 21):
My flights into LCY were on a Sabena Dash 8 (well, those were the days...)

- I remember seeing SN A310's at Heathrow, those really were the days!

Regards

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RE: BA EDI - LCY Operated By Flightine

Sat Nov 01, 2008 10:12 am

Nice report, Mark. Good to hear you could log the 146-200. I still need to fly into LCY, seems to be a great approach.

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
3rd flight on this aircraft

Not the best start...

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
I could see this would be quite a light flight, however the final load was 9, of which 3 were BA crew deadheading -- a very light load indeed!

Definitely not a money maker!

Quoting BA319-131 (Thread starter):
All in all a very nice flight with excellent service from the Flightline crew, though I'm sure a full flight with the 3-3 configuration would be less enjoyable.

3-3 is simply too much on the 146. I remember a flight on a Eurowings 146-300 between FRA and STR last year - very short flight, but still horrible because the plane was full. Never felt so cramped before...


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RE: BA EDI - LCY Operated By Flightine

Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:01 pm



Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 23):
Nice report, Mark.

- Thanks for reading PH

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 23):
Good to hear you could log the 146-200.

- Yes, always pleasing when you add a new type to the log  Smile

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 23):
I still need to fly into LCY, seems to be a great approach

- It's worth it, nice and steep  Smile

Regards

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