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Condor Vs. TUIfly: STR-FUE-STR, With Pics And Vids

Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:26 pm

Having visited Gran Canaria two years ago and Tenerife last year, I decided to keep to the tradition of my annual short trips to the Canary Islands. This year it was time to visit Fuerteventura. At first I searched for any strange airline/aircraft/routing combinations, but in the end I ended up booking STR-FUE on Condor, and the return flight FUE-STR on TUIfly. Both flights were booked well in advance (March) and both flights cost 99EUR including tax.

STR-FUE
DE2538
25Nov2008
STD: 08:35 ATD: 08:50
STA: 11:55 ATA: 12:10
A320-200
Number of passengers booked: 152 (out of 174 seats available)
D-AICN

This aircraft was built and delivered to Thomas Cook UK in 2003. In 2006, it was transferred to Thomas Cook Germany, who re-branded themselves back to Condor a few months later.

As we had our company christmas party the day before, I decided to use the late-night check-in and then head directly from the airport to the christmas party. I arrived at the airport by 18:10. In front of the single Condor late-night counter, there were about 25 passengers queueing. After about 35 minutes in line, it was my turn to check in. I requested a window seat in the rear and got 30A. The boarding time printed on my boarding pass was 07:45.

The next morning I arrived at the airport at 07:40, went straight through Terminal 1 security control (no queues at all) to gate 361, a bus gate on ground floor. The gate area filled up quickly, most passengers for this flight were elderly couples. By 08:10, boarding was called, and I was in the first bus to the aircraft. I boarded through the rear door, and when I heard another passengers asking for newspapers or magazines, the flight attendant replied "Row 22 in the overhead bin". Imagine the chaos when everybody tried to get to row 22 before taking his seat... I decided not to need a newspaper today.

A second bus arrived a few minutes later, so by 08:30 boarding was completed.When everybody had taken their seats, one of the four flight attendants made a welcome announcement, followed by the captain wo informed us that we would have to wait a few minutes before we could taxi to the de-icing platform.

Engines were started, and about 15 minutes behind schedule, we taxied the short way for de-icing. Here's a video of the de-cicng process:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v5...ENov08/?action=view¤t=FUEMov2.flv

When de-icing was finished, the windows were quite dirty of course. So please excuse the quality of the following pics.

By 09:15, we took off from runway 25. I took a take-off video, but as this video basicly only shows de-icing fluid passing in front of my window, I didn't put it online.

The flight attendants informed us about the service on this 4-hour-trip. A drink service, followed by a hot breakfast, then another three drink services throughout the flight. Headphones were offered for 2,50EUR, but I had my headphones from some earlier flight with me.

Here's a pic of the hot meal: scrambled eggs with potato and spinach, a roll, butter, cheese, ham, jam, and a yoghurt. All in all quite tasty, thumbs up. I had a tomato juice with my meal, later an apple juice, a Coke, and then before landing again a tomato juice.



The entertainment program had already been started soon after take-off. At first the flight map and flight information were shown, then some music videos (Jason Mraz "I'm Yours"), comedy ("The Nanny" and "Pink Panther"), before they started the main movie: "Get Smart", quite a funny movie with Steve Carell and Anne Hathaway. In addition to the two audio channels for the movie (German and English language), there were 10 radio programs available. Unfortunately the socket outlet of my seat was broken, I had to keep the headset plug pressed into the outlet because otherwise it would keep falling out.

Our routing was Stuttgart - Geneva - Porto and then over the Atlantic Ocean along the Moroccan coastline.







Leaving Portuguese mainland behind:




The airport of Porto(?):


The flight attendants were quite friendly, and the pilots made several detailed announcements about our routing. After a flighttime of about four hours, we landed at FUE, passing the island in the east and making a 180° turn to the right.

Here's an approach video:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v5...ENov08/?action=view¤t=FUEMov4.flv
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v5...ENov08/?action=view¤t=FUEMov5.flv









The landing video:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v5...ENov08/?action=view¤t=FUEMov6.flv

FUE airport:




Appartently Tuesday is the German day at FUE, I saw a total of six Condor aircraft (A320s and B757-300s) and an Air Berlin B737-800. In addition to that some Binter ATRs, a European Aircharter B737-200 and a Spanair A320.

View after arrival:


We had arrived about 15 minutes behind schedule. Apparently, our crew was to fly back to STR, however not on this aircraft but on one of the other Condor A320s. Deboarding took place via a jetway, while through the rear door the new crew boarded already, and passengers were asked to leave the aircraft a bit quicker. But de-boarding a load of German pensioners can take some time Big grin



Construction site of a new terminal next to the existing one:


Arrival screen:


About 20 minutes after arrival, I got my checked luggage and stepped outside the terminal building. Hmmm, not as warm as the years before on LPA or TFS, and quite stormy. I took a photo of the good old European Aircharter B737-200 - little did I know that this would be the last time I'd see one of these aircraft flying:


A few seconds after I had taken this shot, a police officer approached me and asked me to stop taking photos and to leave this place. So I took a taxi to my hotel in Calete de Fustes, located about ten kilometers south close to the beach.

I spent the next two days trying to catch some sun, however it was more rain and storm unfortunately. Two days later the weather started to improve, just when I was to fly back to Germany. Oh well, just my luck.

FUE-STR
X3 2175
27Nov2008
STD: 08:30 ATD: 08:30
STA: 13:40 ATA: 13:40
B737-800
Number of passengers booked: 186 (out of 189 seats available)
D-AFHY

This aircraft was built and delivered to Hapag-Lloyd in 2001. Hapag-Lloyd rebranded themselved to Hapagfly, and then to TUIfly. Our aircraft was still in Hapagfly colours.

When I booked this flight back in March, the departure time was 17:15. In September, I got an eMail from TUIfly informing me about a schedule change. The new departure time was to be 08:30 already, meaning 1/2 day less on the island. They also offered me a free re-booking to another date or another destination airport in Germany, but I decided to stay on this flight.

08:30 departure was quite early, I wondered how TUIfly would manage to get an aircraft from Germany to Fuerteventura this early. I found out that this aircraft had a long day, leaving FMO at 04:00 in the morning, flying FMO - FUE - STR - FUE - FMO and returning back to FMO after midnight. I had to get up quite early, shocked the lady at the hotel reception ("You want to check out already? It's six o'clock in the morning - are you sure?!") and took a taxi to the airport.

The departure board - as you can see, ours was the only holiday flight leaving that early:


An adverticement at the Dan-Air Ticket counter Big grin :


Hmm, looks like I'm the only one who showed up at the airport two hours before departure - German pensioners don't like getting up that early, and not even the check-in agents had arrived:


By 06:35, a bus with the first load of tourists arrived, two queues were formed in front of the two TUIfly counters. One agent arrived and -of course- opened not the counter in front of my queue but the other one. About ten minutes later, the other counter was opened as well. I asked again for a window seat in the rear, but I was informed that window seats were only available in the front, so I got 6F.

I went through security, had some breakfast and bought some souvenirs at the "Things Unnecessary" gift shop. The departure board included some destination weather information - hmmm, 20°C at Stuttgart? I couldn't quite believe this, and in fact it was snowing in Stuttgart that morning:


Sunrise at the airport:


D-AHFY landing from FMO:


By 08:10, boarding was called, again via jetway. At the aircraft door, one of the four flight attendants offered a bar of "Mars" to everybody. Free magazines and newspapers again in the overhead lockers, I only took a copy of the "Flyjournal" onboard magazine.

Boarding was completed soon, doors were closed, and we pushed back perfectly on-time.

Taxiing to the runway:




The monitors showed a map with our aircraft's position. Funny detail: apparently the Google Earth data is a bit outdated here, some of the taxiways we used did not exist on the map yet Big grin

Here's a take-off video, showing our aircraft taking off in northern direction and then turning right over the Atlantic Ocean, in order to avoid flying over the towns and beaches north of the airport:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v5...ENov08/?action=view¤t=FUEMov9.flv





Headsets were sold again, I think 3EUR. The movie on this flight would be "Flawless", with Michael Caine and Demi Moore. Alright, a bit better than the Antonio Banderas dance movie which was shown last year on my TUIfly flight TFS-STR - still I decided not to watch this movie. The whole entertainment system was started only about one hour after take-off. Once again, my headset didn't seem to work - but no, it was not my headset, because nobody else could hear anything. Finally, one flight attendant told the other one "You forgot to press the PLAY button", so at least the audio system was running now. The video was started even later, but as mentioned before, I didn't want to watch that movie anyway. Out of the four radio programs, I decided to listen to the "eighties and oldies" program, as the other channels were "comedy", "children" and "Schlager" (german folk music).

Only two drink services throughout the flight, and a cold meal, consisting of two rolls, butter, cheese, ham, jam, and a fruit salad (honeydew melon). Both quantity- and quality-wise not as good as the meal on Condor, anyway it was alright. When I finished my meal, I was still hungry, and as the elderly couple sitting next to me had only eaten one roll each, I was happy to help them by eating their remaining rolls and jam.

Our routing:


The Moroccan coastline:


Spain:








The Pyrenees:




I couldn't quite identify this airport, it was somewhere near Lyon, but I don't think it's LYS:


The Alps:


Some other airport, somewhere over Switzerland:


The Thunersee:




We left our cruising altitude somewhere over Zurich, flew over Freiburg, followed by a nice approach over the sunny Schwaebische Alb (Swabian Mountains).

The city of Grabenstetten:


Oberlenningen. The factory on the photo is the old paper factory Scheufelen, who went into administration earlier this year:


Autobahn A8:




Goeppingen:


Esslingen:


The Festo headquarters:


And here's the landing video:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v5...Nov08/?action=view¤t=FUEMov10.flv

We landed on-time and taxied towards a jetway position. The flight attendants said goodbye and distributed candy at the aircraft door. About 10 minutes after landing, the first bags arrived at the baggage claim, and ten more minutes later, I got my baggage back.

Let me finish my report with a short comparison between Condor and TUIfly: Both flights were more or less ontime (Condor 15 minutes late due to de-icing), and the flights cost me 99EUR each. The schedule change on TUIfly reduced my already short stay on Fuerteventura even more. Meals, drinks and entertainment on TUIfly were alright, but they couldn't match Condor who served a hot meal, four drink services, twelve audio channels, ...
I collected 750 Miles&More miles on Condor (useless to me, as my M&M milage ballance is faaaaar away from a free flight) and 3,000 TUIfly Bluemiles (more useful to me, as my Bluemiles account is more active than my M&M account). Crews on both flights were friendly. All in all, it's just a number of very small details which made me prefer Condor over TUIfly once again.

Thanks for reading my report, and as you know: feedback is always welcome, so if you have any questions or just want to leave a few lines, feel free to do so. Looking forward to read and answer them, best regards, Alex.
 
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Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:57 pm

Very Nice TR!!!You got some really good pics of the scenery there......

the vids are also nice.
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Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:26 pm

Nice TR! Interesting comparison.

Quoting Ndebele (Thread starter):
I decided to listen to the "eighties and oldies" program, as the other channels were "comedy", "children" and "Schlager" (german folk music)

No Hansi Hinterseer for you?  Wink
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Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:32 pm

Hi Ndebele,
Thanks for your TR, it gives me an idea about FUE, an island I did see but only from distance on my recent trip to the neighbour island of Lanzarote.

Quoting Ndebele (Thread starter):
The airport of Porto(?):

It's not Porto, which is in northern Portugal, it's Rota Naval Station airfield, near Jerez de la Frontera, in southern Spain.

Quoting Ndebele (Thread starter):
I couldn't quite identify this airport, it was somewhere near Lyon, but I don't think it's LYS:

I checked and checked all over again on G. Earth, but no luck. Maybe somebody else can give you the answer.

Cheers!
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Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:36 pm

Hi, Alex,

nice story and good quality pix.

What a pity that you had not the best weather there at FUE.

Quoting Ndebele (Thread starter):
The airport of Porto(?):

It looks like Faro.

Not easy to compare the differences between DE and X3, but I´am also on your way and prefer DE .

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Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:03 pm

Nice T/R! I would like to go to the Cnaray's the earlier, the better...

Quoting Nickbbu (Reply 4):

Quoting Ndebele (Thread starter):
I couldn't quite identify this airport, it was somewhere near Lyon, but I don't think it's LYS:

I checked and checked all over again on G. Earth, but no luck. Maybe somebody else can give you the answer.

It's Grenoble St. Geoirs Airport, GNB

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Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:58 pm

Some really stunning piccies of the return leg coming in over the Alps and CH. All the fresh snow looks lovely.

Quoting Ndebele (Thread starter):
A few seconds after I had taken this shot, a police officer approached me and asked me to stop taking photos and to leave this place

Same old problem again, don't understand it in a country like Spain

Quoting Ndebele (Thread starter):
When I booked this flight back in March, the departure time was 17:15. In September, I got an eMail from TUIfly informing me about a schedule change. The new departure time was to be 08:30 already, meaning 1/2 day less on the island. They also offered me a free re-booking to another date or another destination airport in Germany, but I decided to stay on this flight.

That's a real pain losing the entire day. Still, at leats you were given the chance to rebook, which is a good thing,

Quoting Ndebele (Thread starter):
hmmm, 20°C at Stuttgart

If that had been true it really would have been a wasted trip, eh?

Quoting Ndebele (Thread starter):
750 Miles&More miles on Condor (useless to me, as my M&M milage ballance is faaaaar away from a free flight)

I know the feeling.....

Thanks for posting, great read.

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Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:58 pm

Hi Alex,

Great TR, seems Condor are a pretty good airline, quite impressed.

Quoting Ndebele (Thread starter):
After about 35 minutes in line

- Too long!

Quoting Ndebele (Thread starter):
Here's a pic of the hot meal: scrambled eggs with potato and spinach, a roll, butter, cheese, ham, jam, and a yoghurt. All in all quite tasty, thumbs up

- Looks great  Smile

Quoting Ndebele (Thread starter):
An adverticement at the Dan-Air Ticket counter

- Nice, a bit of history, amazed it's still there.

Regards

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Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:45 am

Hi Alex,

That's a nice report, giving the opportunity to compare 2 german leisure airlines on a somewhat longer route.
Also some nice pictures, especially the 732 pic is nice!

Thanks for sharing!
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Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:09 pm

Very nice trip report... Good job.
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Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:28 pm

Very nice Saturday afternoon read. Particularly loved the pictures of the return flight with our >Heimat< covered in snow.
 
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Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:54 am

Great TR!!! Just a question though, I noticed the winglets on the tuifly were blue, in the colours of Thomson Airways, and tuifly is yellow, strange combination!!!
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Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:09 pm

Hi Alex,

great trip report and some excellent pictures and videos! Especially the pictures of your return trip with the great weather and the snowy Swabian Mountains are very nice.

Quoting Ndebele (Thread starter):
The flight attendants informed us about the service on this 4-hour-trip. A drink service, followed by a hot breakfast, then another three drink services throughout the flight.

Really a very good service level.

Quoting Ndebele (Thread starter):
I took a photo of the good old European Aircharter B737-200 - little did I know that this would be the last time I'd see one of these aircraft flying

Nice to see a picture of such a classic aircraft. By the way: I just visited the homepage of Palmair. According to the information given there, Palmair is still flying. They seem to be not affected by the trouble at European Aircharter.

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Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:53 pm

Thanks to everybody for your nice replies so far!

Quoting DavidkunzVIE (Reply 3):
No Hansi Hinterseer for you?

Definitely not, and no "Der kleine Nils" comedy either. Sometimes I really wonder about the taste of some other passengers...

Quoting Nickbbu (Reply 4):
It's not Porto, which is in northern Portugal

You're right, Porto is far off our routing. I'm almost(!) sure our captain announced that we were going to leave European mainland near Porto, but I could be wrong. So it's Rota Naval Station, thanks very much - never heard about that 'airport' before, well i guess neither DE nor X3 fly there...

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 5):
Not easy to compare the differences between DE and X3, but I´am also on your way and prefer DE .

Indeed, and I'm glad that DE will stay independant, at least for the moment. It would have been quite a pity if they had been taken over by AB.

Quoting Flyingfool (Reply 6):
It's Grenoble St. Geoirs Airport, GNB

Thanks for that information!

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 7):

That's a real pain losing the entire day. Still, at leats you were given the chance to rebook, which is a good thing,

In fact their eMail with the schedule change made it sound as if I could re-book myself free of charge to virtually any other flight from FUE to any German airport. But living close to STR airport, it wouldn't have made much sense to fly anywhere else just to have a long train ride home.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 8):
Quoting Ndebele (Thread starter):
An adverticement at the Dan-Air Ticket counter

- Nice, a bit of history, amazed it's still there.

To be honest I was joking a bit, there was no Dan-Air Ticket counter any more. It was more like some counter which apparently was not needed at the moment, and in order to not make it look too derelict, they put some old posters into the windows. Nice idea, and the Dan-Air poster was certainly the most creative one.

Quoting DALCE (Reply 9):
Also some nice pictures, especially the 732 pic is nice!



Quoting Contact Air (Reply 13):
By the way: I just visited the homepage of Palmair. According to the information given there, Palmair is still flying. They seem to be not affected by the trouble at European Aircharter.

Palmair is indeed not directly affected by the end of European. But as the 737-200s were operated by European, Palmair is now using Jet2 B737-300 equipment, according to an information I read on some other forum.

Quoting Gjunnar (Reply 11):
Particularly loved the pictures of the return flight with our >Heimat< covered in snow.

You're right, and it will never cease to amaze me flying over our "Heimat". It's always a nice game to play, to look out of the window and try to make out what town you see outside. And once you made out the first town (in my case it was Bad Urach this time), it's easy to tell the next one.

Quoting Speedbird19 (Reply 12):
Just a question though, I noticed the winglets on the tuifly were blue, in the colours of Thomson Airways, and tuifly is yellow, strange combination!!!

The aircraft was still in the old (blue) Hapagfly livery, that's why the winglet was still painted blue. The new TUIfly livery has yellow winglets of course - however you see from time to time some strange variations, like a yellow TUIfly aircraft with blue winglet, a blue Hapagfly aircraft with yellow engines, ... but our aircraft was in complete blue Hapagfly livery.

Thanks again for the nice feedback!
 
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Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:47 am

Very nice report as usual, Alex. Always neat to read about some good old fashioned charter flights for a change. And as usual with a trip report of the Stuttgart crowd, one gets extensive aerial picture coverage of the Stuttgart area.  Smile
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Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:16 am

Hi, Alex

Quoting Ndebele (Thread starter):
a European Aircharter B737-200

That was indeed the last time you saw one in action..., since that airline seized operations lately.

Quoting Ndebele (Thread starter):
I found out that this aircraft had a long day, leaving FMO at 04:00 in the morning, flying FMO - FUE - STR - FUE - FMO and returning back to FMO after midnight.

Similar patterns are done by HV out of AMS, the so called 'W-pattern'. I think this strategy is the best one for the leisure and lowcost operations of some airlines in Europe, as they get the most out of their aircraft.

Nice to compare both DE and X3, I flew X3 and I liked them, especially the B737NGs with winglets are my favourite. I would like to try DE, but on a B753 then, and I'm still finding out how to get on one  Wink

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Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:07 pm

Nice report. Great to see the European Aircharter B732 - shame that it won't be seen anymore. Hope it goes to a good home.

Interesting to see the Dan Air poster - I bought one of those on eBay about a month ago!
 
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Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:02 am

Servus Alex,

very enjoyable report, good comparison between DE and X3.

Quoting Ndebele (Thread starter):
Both flights were booked well in advance (March) and both flights cost 99EUR including tax.

Great deal!

Quoting Ndebele (Thread starter):
Here's a pic of the hot meal: scrambled eggs with potato and spinach, a roll, butter, cheese, ham, jam, and a yoghurt. All in all quite tasty, thumbs up.

Looks good, interesting to see DE serves a hot breakfast, unlike X3.

Quoting Ndebele (Thread starter):
But de-boarding a load of German pensioners can take some time

How disrespectful you are...  Wink

Quoting Ndebele (Thread starter):
"You want to check out already? It's six o'clock in the morning - are you sure?!"

What a silly question!

Quoting Ndebele (Thread starter):
and as the elderly couple sitting next to me had only eaten one roll each, I was happy to help them by eating their remaining rolls and jam.

Wait, wait did you say about these pensioners earlier?  Wink


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Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:01 pm

Thanks again for your replies!

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 15):
as usual with a trip report of the Stuttgart crowd, one gets extensive aerial picture coverage of the Stuttgart area.

Well, what can I say - it's simply the most beautiful part of the world, that's why we take so many photos Big grin

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 16):

Similar patterns are done by HV out of AMS, the so called 'W-pattern'. I think this strategy is the best one for the leisure and lowcost operations of some airlines in Europe, as they get the most out of their aircraft.

Definitely a great way to use the aircraft. However, does TUIfly need to get so many hours out of a single aircraft in winter? No, because they have several other aircraft sitting idle on the ground at the same time. With a 'W-pattern' like this with a crew change at STR, they need to get the FMO-based crew back to FMO, and the STR-based crew back to STR the next day. In addition to that, they re-scheduled the departure and arrival times of the FMO-passengers to some quite nasty early-morning departure and late-night arrival times.

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 17):
Nice report. Great to see the European Aircharter B732 - shame that it won't be seen anymore. Hope it goes to a good home.

Just my thoughts, but even if it finds a new home, I somehow doubt we will see this aircraft flying within the EU any longer.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 18):
Quoting Ndebele (Thread starter):
Both flights were booked well in advance (March) and both flights cost 99EUR including tax.

Great deal!

Well, 198EUR for the return is alright, but I'm sure there would have been cheaper flights, if only I hadn't been too lazy to search.

Best regards, Alex.

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