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Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:14 am

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Portugal 1/3: BA´s classic 763 and TAP to Madeira


Hello, dear readers,

four biz weeks gone by, since my arrival from Morroco:

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ums/trip_reports/read.main/142610/

Let´s start another mission.
The BAE ATP is a very rare plane type here in Europe. Flown in freighter configuration for example by West Air Sweden and only operated for
passenger services also in Sweden by Nextjet or in Portugal by SATA Air Acores.
And it was missed from my log, till now.
I´ve done plan´s for that ride for several times and when I´ve read that SATA ordered Dash 8 machines to replace the ATPs, I´ve fixed my
bookings for late February this year.
Two nights/three days around the BAE ATP.





Sunday, 22.02.2009
FRA (Frankfurt-Rhein-Main) Not that really cold, but wet, 5 degrees centigrade
LHR (London-Heathrow) Windy and mild, 12 degrees centigrade
Duration: 1 hour 15 minutes announced
1 hour 40 minutes actual

Service BA 903 operated by British Airways Boeing 767-300 G-BZHC
Scheduled: 11.15 // 12.05 (-1 hour time difference)
Actual 11.45 // 12.25
Gate: D4 Seat: 39A
Load factor: Near 100%
Fare: 79,72 EUR



That was, for sure, not that funny ride to STR that sunday morning, completely snow covered roads, not more than 60 km´s per hour possible.
At the airport at around 06.45 am, parked the car quickly and down the stairs to the train station. Departure 07.08 am to Stuttgart
main train station, where I've changed to the ICE high speed train, directly to FRA airport. BA´s STR-LHR service is usually operated by A319´s,
so I´ve decided to fly out of FRA to catch the 763.
My last flight on this type was some ten years ago.
Both, suburban train and ICE departed ontime, the ICE was overbooked, so it seems, lots of people without seats, as usual during vacation times.
Arrival at FRA´s high speed train station ontime.

My train is departing from FRA:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/PXO091/PXO091006.jpg

With the train station near Terminal 1 and BA´s operation from Terminal 2, I took the Skyline for the change.
BA check-in was done online the night before, secured my preffered seat, you know, window last row. Not more than five minutes and my boarding pass was changed for a classic one and my bag was send to LHR by a friendly older female agent. She asked me for more flights today, but I´ve decided to check-in my bag further at LHR.
No time to wait at passport control and also at security. Only six gates there in that area, mainly used for flights to the states.
A few minutes later I saw the nice BA colours out on the taxiway between the two parallel runways. These colours looking really good on the 767-300.

Nice colours in the distance:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/PXO091/PXO091010.jpg

Something new for DL:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/PXO091/PXO091012.jpg

Well known MH:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/PXO091/PXO091013.jpg

That will be my third ride on the B763 only, with the last two legs, both on DL machines, more than ten years ago, so I´am looking really forward to it.
Todays plane G-BZHC remained its entire career with BA, delivered on 19.06.1998.
And it´s the newest machine in BA´s 763 fleet with 21 examples.
The plane passed by, well positioned for me doing pictures and parked at the finger at gate D4.

My machine:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/PXO091/PXO091018.jpg

And once more:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/PXO091/PXO091019.jpg

Only a very low number of pax deboarded, later I´ve learned about 26 pax inbound, a bit more than a 10% load!.
But according to the heavy numbers of pax at the gate, the outbound will be much better loaded, 221 pax over all.
Boarding started and I´ve entered the cabin, a welcome only at the door, no notice from the other crew members standing at their positions.
Let me say, that was a real experienced cabin crew, very professional but not especially friendly.
One male, five female FA´s.
The UK captain was on the speakers with lots of detailed informations during boarding. He apologized for the late departure, according to weather related traffic
separations around FRA.
We had to wait some more minutes till pushback and he informed us two or three times more.
The cabin fitted with oldfashioned blue fabric seats. The interior looks slightly outdated, not that really clean, but legroom was ok.
Old fashioned center cabin monitors, not in service today.

My seat:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/PXO091/PXO091020.jpg

The cabin:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/PXO091/PXO091024.jpg

At around 11.45 am we´re ready for departure from FRA´s 4000 meter long runway 18.
Also with that good load, the departure was fast and impressive.
Crusing level 34000 feet, cloudy skies above BRU and Oostende.

Above the clouds:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/PXO091/PXO091025.jpg

Traffic:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/PXO091/PXO091026.jpg

One time free beverages and a cereal bar from the service cart.
The pilot informed us later about the usual holding prior to landing at LHR. Some ten minutes today.

It looks like London:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/PXO091/PXO091027.jpg

Landing on the 3901 meters long runway 27R some minutes late and taxi to T5. My first time there. A good impression. Finger deboarding.

Nice Virgin machine:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/PXO091/PXO091028.jpg

BA One World:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/PXO091/PXO091029.jpg

Heavy towing:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/PXO091/PXO091030.jpg

Bye-Bye G-BZHC:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/PXO091/PXO091031.jpg

Only some very few minutes at passport control, my bag was quick on the belt. So time to change for Terminal 2 by the Heathrow Express train,
free for the intra-terminal ride.








Sunday, 22.02.2009
LHR (London-Heathrow) Windy and mild 12 degrees centigrade
FNC (Funchal-Madeira) Cloudy and windy, 18 degrees centigrade
Duration: 3 hours, 10 minutes announced
3 hours, 30 minutes actual

Service TP 391 operated by TAP Portugal Airbus A320 CS-TNE
Scheduled: 16.25 // 20.15
Actual: 16.30 // 20.00
Gate: 8 Seat: 28F
Load factor: Around 95%
Fare: 94,27 EUR



TAP´s online check-in was a complete joke.
Identifikation needs a Victoria member number, TAP's frequent flyer programm. I´am not a member.
The other opinion is your E-Ticket number, LHR departures switched to LH´s website which is responsible for the check-in there.
And when you check LH´s website, there is no place for the e-ticket number, the booking reference was also not accepted.
Time enough here during my change at LHR, so I decided for classic counter check-in, no other way possible.
Arrived at T2 well ontime, three counters open, only one with a family there. The guy was not unfriendly, no problem there to secure my preffered window last row
seat and once again my bag disappeared in the belly of LHR.
Surprisingly not a minute to wait at security, strict with shoes off and I was in LHR´s gate area.
Some shopping with, thanks to the strong EURO, very good conditions.
And time to walk around. LHRs T2 offers not that much quiet and interesting places for us enthusiasts, but the time goes by with exploring T2 and also T3.

JAT to BEG:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/PXO091/PXO091033.jpg

Something big in the distance:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/PXO091/PXO091034.jpg

Maybe, its the EK A380?:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/PXO091/PXO091035.jpg

Yes thats it:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/PXO091/PXO091036.jpg

IB One World:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/PXO091/PXO091037.jpg

And something for Phil/OA260 in the distance:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/PXO091/PXO091038.jpg

My machine:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/PXO091/PXO091039.jpg

Phils machine:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/PXO091/PXO091042.jpg

I´ve missed my planes arrival, the gate shows up on the screen, the usual run from the central waiting area started and the small gate area filled quickly up.
Looks like another good load here. Only minutes later finger boarding started.
CS-TNE, named "Sa de Miranda" was my machine today, a plane with an interesting history.
Delivered for the first time to TAP at 03.03.1993. In service with now defunct Portuguese charter carrier Air Luxor from 21.03.2000, later leased to Novair from Sweden
at 01.06.2002, back to Air Luxor at 27.03.2003 and the second time in service with TAP since 10.03.2004.
TAP´s A320 fleet counts 16 machines at all and thats one of the oldest examples.
CS-TNE was a new entry to my, by now with 44 flights covered A320 log.
Three male, two female FA´s. Bright grey fabric seats. Looks somewhat oldfashioned, clean, the legroom was ok.

Seats:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/PXO091/PXO091040.jpg

Cabin overview:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/PXO091/PXO091041.jpg

Center cabin monitors but only used for the safety demo and some advertissements.
We´re ready for departure from again runway 27R at around 4.30 pm.
The route gone mostly over water, no waypoints along the spanish and portuguese atlantic coast.

Short after departure from LHR:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/PXO091/PXO091043.jpg

Cruise level 37.000 feet. The female captain was later on the speakers with friendly and real detailed flight informations.
Service was a hot meal italian style and twice time free drinks.

Hot meal:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/PXO091/PXO091044.jpg

Sundowner:
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/PXO091/PXO091045.jpg

Approach was real stunning, along the coastline and the runway, a low level sharp right turn and further with all the lights from Santa Cruz beneath me for touchdown on the 2777 meter long runway 05. Remember, no ILS here at FNC!.
A short taxi, parked on the apron in front off the terminal building and self service to the entrance.
A quick passport control, my bag was also fast. I've decided to go on the terrace for a nightly plane picture, but it was to low in quality for posting here.
Only five minutes by taxi to my hotel, the Vila Gale Santa Cruz, a newly built, modern designed and real recommendable accomodation, also for our aircraft
enthusiasts special needs. There was a perfect view from the hotel pool area to all approaching planes. A picture will follow in the second report.


Flying BA was ok, not an especially friendly crew, but a special aircraft on these intra European routes.
TAP was also ok, the FA´s a bit lower friendly than average, no airshow, but legroom and comfort was ok.
Both flights ontime, reasonable priced.

Will I finally catch the ATP and what about the, as usual, non direct way back home to STR?.
Something more will be online soon!.


Comments welcome,
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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:36 am

Hey Markus,
Great report as always. I thought they would have headrest covers on the BA seats. Maybe they dont bother anymore.

Thanks for the two pics of OA A340! I want to go on it again lol..

TAP look better than I thought. Hot meal in Y , I didnt expect that.

Finally the ICE train is lovely. Id love to go on that.

Look forward to the next report.

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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:46 am

HI Markus

congrats with the B763! Good choice!
Also in my log 3 times now... so we're same level  Silly

I have seen TP's A319 from inside with grey leather seats, probably the A320's spot a different interior, since you got on fabric seats. Good meal for the flight, but stupid to see such a difficult/impossible checkin system. Not good, since they're in Star Alliance.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Will I finally catch the ATP and what about the, as usual, non direct way back home to STR?.

I know the answer already... but let's see what the future reports will bring here  Wink

Gruß
Eric

PS - any good flights for you to CPH?
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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:59 am

Hey, Phil,

Quoting OA260 (Reply 1):
Great report as always.

Thank you.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 1):
I thought they would have headrest covers on the BA seats. Maybe they dont bother anymore.

Cost cutting everywhere!.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 1):
Thanks for the two pics of OA A340! I want to go on it again lol..

Me too.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 1):
Look forward to the next report.

Will be online around next weekend.

Greetings,
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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:04 am

Hi Markus,

Good to read from your hand again! Sure a nice report for a Satruday morning!
What we enthousiasts do to get on a certain plane. Dashing through the snow, to avoid flying an 319 and scoring the 763. ( still missing from my log ). FRA looked quite down with the rain ad bad weather!
rwy18 is my least favorite rwy at FRA, from the other rwy's you can see more of the ncie airport lay-out. It is no secret that I have a special feeling with FRA  Smile
Also nice to spot the EK 380, one day you will probably be flying such a machine also  Smile
TP looked quite ok, nothing spectaculair,except for that they are not covered too often here on a.net. So again you have managed a nice routing, and therefore I'm already looking forward to the next episode!

Cheers,
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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:04 am

Hi, Eric,

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 2):
congrats with the B763! Good choice!

Thanx, much more interesting than the usual A319/20´s.

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 2):
Also in my log 3 times now... so we're same level

 checkmark 

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 2):
but stupid to see such a difficult/impossible checkin system. Not good, since they're in Star Alliance.

Exactly my thoughts.

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 2):
PS - any good flights for you to CPH?

I´am not out of it, my AB and also LH accounts are well feeded to book CPH.
But biz wise, it seems the chance to go is rather limited.

Best regards,
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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:08 am

Hello, Joost,

Quoting DALCE (Reply 4):
Good to read from your hand again! Sure a nice report for a Satruday morning!

Thank you.

Quoting DALCE (Reply 4):
FRA looked quite down with the rain ad bad weather!

Definitelly, it seems there was not real daylight all around.

Quoting DALCE (Reply 4):
Also nice to spot the EK 380, one day you will probably be flying such a machine also

As soon as possible.

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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:30 am

The BA763 is always a pleasure to fly short haul. Its a shame they are looking so worn inside these days and that they dont have the leather seating throughout the whole cabin.

Looking forward to reading part 2!

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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:36 am

Hey, Matt,

thanx for your reply.

Quoting DunaA320 (Reply 7):
The BA763 is always a pleasure to fly short haul.

Definitelly!.

Quoting DunaA320 (Reply 7):
Its a shame they are looking so worn inside these days and that they dont have the leather seating throughout the whole cabin.

True, that fabric seats looked something worn out.

Quoting DunaA320 (Reply 7):
Looking forward to reading part 2!

Give me some days!.

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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:42 am

I flew TAP to Madeira from Barcelona via Lisbon and we got a small sandwich and exactly the same cake / muffin as you did.

The legroom on the A319 was tight as far as I recall and better on the A320. Apparently landing in Madeira is spectacular but we landed at night as our flight was delayed 5 hours.

How is the weather in February? In September it was hot. It's a beautiful place not to be missed.

In 1977 a TAP 727 landed and fell down the cliff. Very dangerous airport.

Here is a link to landing in daylight video.

http://hubpages.com/hub/Madeira-Airport

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld4RageIzg8

One more opposite direction:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld4RageIzg8

[Edited 2009-03-07 02:47:18]

[Edited 2009-03-07 02:51:14]

[Edited 2009-03-07 02:57:53]
 
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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sat Mar 07, 2009 12:49 pm



Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 8):

Definitelly!.

Ive had 4 legs on the BA763 now, enjoyed everyone of them! Makes a change from the usual A32X

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 8):

True, that fabric seats looked something worn out.

I know, but I did find them a little more comfortable
 
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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:10 pm

Hey, Semsem,

thanx for your reply.

Quoting Semsem (Reply 9):
. Apparently landing in Madeira is spectacular but we landed at night as our flight was delayed 5 hours.

That nightly approach was indeed spectacular with all that city lights along the hillside.

Quoting Semsem (Reply 9):
How is the weather in February? In September it was hot. It's a beautiful place not to be missed.

Indeed, weather was acceptable, no rain, from 17 to 23 degrees centigrade, not bad for late February.

Thanx also for the lonks. I will show some daylight pics in my next stories.


@Matt:

Quoting DunaA320 (Reply 10):
True, that fabric seats looked something worn out.

I know, but I did find them a little more comfortable

Also my opinion. The leather seaters looking better, the old fashioned fabric ones are
bigger and slightly more comfortable.

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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sat Mar 07, 2009 2:11 pm

Hello Markus,

Great TR. Especially the BA one. I will be traveling with this airline next month and I really look forward to it.

Cheers,
Suryo
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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sat Mar 07, 2009 2:40 pm

Hey, Suryo,

Quoting Akhmad (Reply 12):
Great TR.

Thank you.

Quoting Akhmad (Reply 12):
Especially the BA one. I will be traveling with this airline next month and I really look forward to it.

Good to hear. Hopefully I read something around your experiences.

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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:05 pm

Servus Markus,

nice report and an interesting routing. Always nice to get a widebody, it makes a Euro trip much more interesting.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
A few minutes later I saw the nice BA colours out on the taxiway between the two parallel runways. These colours looking really good on the 767-300.

I'm not a fan of the current livery. I remember well two BA 763 flights some years ago - I had hoped to get one of the Utopia birds, but ended up on aircraft in the old Landor and the Union Flag colors...at least I was more successful with two 757s and a 777.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Something new for DL:

Awful, too much white on these birds. I will miss NWA's livery.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Service was a hot meal italian style and twice time free drinks.

It doesn't look bad, but how was the taste?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Only five minutes by taxi to my hotel, the Vila Gale Santa Cruz, a newly built, modern designed and real recommendable accomodation, also for our aircraft
enthusiasts special needs. There was a perfect view from the hotel pool area to all approaching planes. A picture will follow in the second report.

Good to know, I will keep that in mind.


PH
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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:26 pm

Hi, PH,

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 14):
nice report and an interesting routing. Always nice to get a widebody, it makes a Euro trip much more interesting.

Thank you.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 14):
.at least I was more successful with two 757s and a 777.

Something also to collect for my log soon!.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 14):
Awful, too much white on these birds. I will miss NWA's livery.

Definitelly, another chance gone to fly a different airline.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 14):
It doesn't look bad, but how was the taste?

Well, eating while flying is not my favourite thing, so I collect the bar and muffin and
pictured the meal, that´s it.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 14):
Good to know, I will keep that in mind.

Have a look at the next story. Staying at the pool is like a live airshow!.

Greetings,
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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:12 pm

Hi Markus,

Good to read up on another of your trips.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
I´ve decided to fly out of FRA to catch the 763.
My last flight on this type was some ten years ago.

- Wow, considering the number of these birds in service, that is quite a time between flights.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
check-in was done online the night before, secured my preffered seat, you know, window last row

- Ha, well know to us all  Smile

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The cabin fitted with oldfashioned blue fabric seats

- The forward section have leather seats, which row does the cloth start?

Not a bad looking meal on TAP, better than the last meal I had on them, some years back....

Look forward to your ATP flight, I've had about 6, but these were some years back.

Best Wishes

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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:26 pm

Hi, Mark,

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 16):
Good to read up on another of your trips.

Thank you.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 16):
- Wow, considering the number of these birds in service, that is quite a time between flights.

Exactly the reason why I need to fly out from FRA this time!.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 16):
check-in was done online the night before, secured my preffered seat, you know, window last row

- Ha, well know to us all

No problem for me do board a plane blindfolded, every time window last row!.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 16):
- The forward section have leather seats, which row does the cloth start?

Good question, don´t noticed it.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 16):
Look forward to your ATP flight, I've had about 6, but these were some years back.

Two by now  Smile

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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:15 pm

Great report.

I am trying to plan a weekend trip to FNC but could not find a good hotel that was close to the airport. How would you rate where you stayed for the price you booked? It looks like online you can get a price of 59 Euro for a night. Also if you don't mind me asking how much was the taxi to the hotel? Thank you
 
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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:30 pm

Hi, Peter,

Quoting PHLstudent (Reply 18):
Great report.

Thank you.

FNC is definitelly worth a visit and the approach is real stunning.

A message with more details and the announced airside hotel pic is on the way to your box!.

Greetings,
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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:12 pm

Hi Markus
As always an excellent trip report. Im flying to LHR on friday & im getting more excited after seeing your pics from there  Smile. Looking forward to part 2 of the report. Thanks for posting.
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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:19 pm

Hi, Mark,

Quoting EICVD (Reply 20):
As always an excellent trip report.

Thank you.

Quoting EICVD (Reply 20):
Im flying to LHR on friday & im getting more excited after seeing your pics from there

Good to read. Hopefully we will see another LHR report soon!.

Greetings,
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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sun Mar 08, 2009 3:30 pm

Hi there Markus,

This is yet another very nice trip report from you! Some great pictures and interesting detail. You were so lucky with the loads on the BA 767! 10% is crazy and definitely a loss making flight.

I look forward to the remaining trip reports! Keep them coming!

I hope all is well.

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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sun Mar 08, 2009 4:19 pm

Hi Markus,
Another excellent TR from you as usual! It brought back a few memories for me! My last trip on BA was on the B767, Heathrow-Oslo(Fornebu)-Heathrow 3rd & 5th June 1998 with G BNWJ & G-BNWP, my first wide bodied flights!  Smile Madiera was last visited in 1997 before the ruway was extended. The landing & take off were amazing, but probably only aviation enthusiasts would enjoy them!  Wink Possibly the nearest thing to landing & taking off from an Aircraft Carrier that you could get on a civil airliner!! Did you get chance to see the fuselage of the Nord Noratlas that was close to the airport?


Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 19):
A message with more details and the announced airside hotel pic is on the way to your box!.

Could you please send me the details as well Markus? Thanks! They might end up with a lot more enthusiasts staying there soon!  Smile
I think a return visit to Madiera for myself is long overdue!
Do you know when SATA are replacing the ATP's with the DHC 8's? Like you I need the ATP in my log book! I might also try to fit in a flight on their Do228 which I also still need to add!
Keep up the good work with your TR's!

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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sun Mar 08, 2009 4:32 pm

Hi, GT,

Quoting Globetraveller (Reply 22):
This is yet another very nice trip report from you! Some great pictures and interesting detail.

Thank you.

Quoting Globetraveller (Reply 22):
I look forward to the remaining trip reports! Keep them coming!

I hope all is well.

Everything ok here till now, hope, you too. And I hope that will be so in the future.
I´am looking also forward to your upcoming stories.

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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sun Mar 08, 2009 4:41 pm

Hi, Dave,

Quoting SAAB900 (Reply 23):
Another excellent TR from you as usual!

Thank you.

Quoting SAAB900 (Reply 23):
Heathrow-Oslo(Fornebu)-Heathrow 3rd & 5th June 1998 with G BNWJ & G-BNWP, my first wide bodied flights!

Sounds like a remarkable experience.

Quoting SAAB900 (Reply 23):
Madiera was last visited in 1997 before the ruway was extended. The landing & take off were amazing, but probably only aviation enthusiasts would enjoy them!

I was also there with the old runway, flying on TAP on an very classy B732,
the good old times!

Quoting SAAB900 (Reply 23):
Did you get chance to see the fuselage of the Nord Noratlas that was close to the airport?

It seems i´ve missed something.

Quoting SAAB900 (Reply 23):
Could you please send me the details as well Markus? Thanks! They might end up with a lot more enthusiasts staying there soon!
I think a return visit to Madiera for myself is long overdue!

On the way!.

Quoting SAAB900 (Reply 23):
Do you know when SATA are replacing the ATP's with the DHC 8's? Like you I need the ATP in my log book! I

I´ve done a nice chat with the guys upfront on my return flight from Porto Santo.
The first ATP is leaving for Indonesia soon. But there are only two Dash´s on order till now.
So it seems the remaining ATP´s stay for sometimes longer.

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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sun Mar 08, 2009 4:52 pm

Great TR

You got some really nice pics.

TAP's meal looks really good!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Todays plane G-BZHC remained its entire career with BA, delivered on 19.06.1998.

Flew on this a/c this past December from LHR to ARN!


Thank you for sharing

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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sun Mar 08, 2009 5:21 pm

Hey, Gabriel,

Quoting B747forever (Reply 26):
Great TR

You got some really nice pics.

Thank you.

Quoting B747forever (Reply 26):
Flew on this a/c this past December from LHR to ARN!

Yeah, read your story, but dont noticed it.

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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:13 pm

Hi Markus,

so this time Portugal and the ATP were on your to-do-list. Part 1 is again a great report with some interesting pictures.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Delivered for the first time to TAP at 03.03.1993. In service with now defunct Portuguese charter carrier Air Luxor from 21.03.2000, later leased to Novair from Sweden
at 01.06.2002, back to Air Luxor at 27.03.2003 and the second time in service with TAP since 10.03.2004.

Wow, that's what I call a history!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Service was a hot meal italian style and twice time free drinks.

The meal looks very good. More variety than I would have expected on a European flight.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 15):
Well, eating while flying is not my favourite thing, so I collect the bar and muffin and
pictured the meal, that´s it.

Funny: for me, flying and eating somehow belong together. I always like it if a meal is served. And when flying on low-cost carriers, I always order something.  Smile

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
There was a perfect view from the hotel pool area to all approaching planes. A picture will follow in the second report.

I'm looking forward to that.  Smile

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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:26 pm

Hi, Christoph,

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 28):
Part 1 is again a great report with some interesting pictures.

Thank you.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 28):
Wow, that's what I call a history!

Definitelly, and sounds something weird to lease the same plane again!.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 28):
The meal looks very good. More variety than I would have expected on a European flight.

Yeah, also my opinion.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 28):
Funny: for me, flying and eating somehow belong together. I always like it if a meal is served. And when flying on low-cost carriers, I always order something.

Think about that "I cant believe it" on an KL FA´s face when I´ve received an upgrade to Biz
and declined any offers!.

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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:39 pm

Hola Markus!

Tanks for this great TR again.

It is nice to see that tere is some sun out there when you have such a bad weather.

I also flew this BA763 once in summer wen there is a high demand of Brits coming to BCN.

Madeira has always been a place I'd like to visit... let's see what the near future has to bring.

Looking forward to reading the return to STR.

Salut!

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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:44 pm

Hola, Roger,

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 30):
Tanks for this great TR again.

Thank you.

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 30):
It is nice to see that tere is some sun out there when you have such a bad weather.

Definitelly with that never ending winter season this time.

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 30):
Madeira has always been a place I'd like to visit... let's see what the near future has to bring.

I will show some Madeira and Porto Santo pix with the next story.

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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:07 am

excellent job Markus (...as always of course!)  Wink
BA763 to LHR is also on my to-do list for this year. let's see when I can manage to do this.

looking forward to the other two parts.

take care!
 
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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:46 pm

Hey, Ori,

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 32):
excellent job Markus (...as always of course!)

Thank you.

Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 32):
BA763 to LHR is also on my to-do list for this year. let's see when I can manage to do this.

Good to read for some more BA 763 flights.

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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:13 am

hey Markus

it has been a while since i read one of your TRs, as ive been real busy. However now that i finally found the time to look into your new TRs, i especially enjoyed it. A well written report with good pics, as always.

Now over to part two.
 
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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:18 pm

Hey, Sandro,

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 34):
However now that i finally found the time to look into your new TRs, i especially enjoyed it. A well written report with good pics, as always.

Thank you.

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 34):
Now over to part two.

Let´s go!.

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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:36 pm

Hi Markus,

It looks like I have some reading to catch up on  Wink

Judging by the weather in FRA, it seems a trip to Madeira was an excellent idea. And getting a 767 on a short hop, always a nice treat. Would have been nice if the 10% load had been on you flight, you'd have had a few rows to yourself!

The meal on TP looks good, spinach and ricotta cannelloni?!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The route gone mostly over water, no waypoints along the spanish and portuguese atlantic coast.

Not a routing for me then......!

Looking forward to part 2
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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:10 pm

Hey, Hannah,

really nice to read your reply.

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 36):
Judging by the weather in FRA, it seems a trip to Madeira was an excellent idea. And getting a 767 on a short hop, always a nice treat. Would have been nice if the 10% load had been on you flight, you'd have had a few rows to yourself!

For sure!

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 36):
The meal on TP looks good, spinach and ricotta cannelloni?!

Well, it smells not bad!.

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 36):
Not a routing for me then......!

The coastline mostly visible.

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 36):
Looking forward to part 2

And me, looking forward to some nice and sunny "Edelswiss" pics.

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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:40 am



Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Let me say, that was a real experienced cabin crew, very professional but not especially friendly.
One male, five female FA´s.

Just being petty... but there would have been a legal minimun of 8 F/A's so you didnt see the other two i assume, and if it was 100% full almost, there could have bee upto 10 F/A's on that leg.
 
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RE: Portugal 1/3: BA´s Classic 763 And TAP To Madeira

Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:38 pm

Hey, Channex101,

Quoting Channex101 (Reply 38):
but there would have been a legal minimun of 8 F/A's so you didnt see the other two i assume, and if it was 100% full almost, there could have bee upto 10 F/A's on that leg.

Thanks for the information.
It seems that nice girl seating next to me was not that good for my attention into the number of FA´s.

 Wink

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