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NW A330-200 Biz SLC-NRT, DL 777-200 Biz NRT-JFK

Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:32 am

Hey all,

Well, another random NRT adventure. It's been a bit of a random personal goal of mine to fly every NRT-US city pair there is, at least those on NW, AA, UA, and DL. The last two remaining were SLC and JFK - both newly added routes to the NW/DL network. Unfortunately, this won't be as long as my normal reports as quite a few of my pictures were accidentally deleted off my camera. But, I do at least have a takeoff video from the SLC-NRT flight on the A332!!

Final Itinerary for the trip:

DEN-LAX: UA 763
LAX-SLC: UA CR7
SLC-NRT: NW 332
NRT-JFK: DL 777
JFK-DEN: B6 320




04 July 2009
NW9, SLC-NRT
Block Time: 11 hours, 50 minutes
A330-223, N852NW, ship# 3352
Seat: 3J, World Business Class

Load Factor-
Business: 30%
Coach: 40%




Anyhow, again I don't have too many pictures from either of the flights due to a lot of the pics being accidentally deleted while xfering them from my camera to the computer. Some of the most important ones I'm missing are those of the meal services from both flights  irked 

For this trip, I was traveling with a buddy of mine and we were going to spend a few days out in NRT - go see downtown Tokyo and such, which I've never actually done despite having been to NRT nine times now, haha. Anyhow, we both flew into LAX on the 3rd and met there, and is why I didn't just fly DEN-SLC directly. On the morning of the 4th, we took a SkyWest/UAX CR7 up to SLC, then the A332 onward to NRT on the now 1-month old SLC-NRT route.



Gate podium for NW9 to NRT


As an aside, the SLC-NRT has been slow to get decent load factors, but the traffic is picking up. The load factors were so remarkably low on 04JUL due to it being the perfect storm of a international flight on a Saturday in conjunction with it being a typically non-traveling holiday weekend. So, it was not just SLC-NRT that ran incredibly light that day, but near every NRT flight across the board, including other airlines as well.



Ship 3352 (N852NW) at gate D2 in SLC. The inbound flight arrived 40 minutes early.


To be honest, I was a bit nervous to be taking this flight. In the wake of the AF crash and there being a few other in-flight instrumentation failures subsequently (one of them on NW), I did have half a mind to just do LAX-NRT directly on my favorite 744's instead of the LAX-SLC-NRT to get on the new route. But, in the end, getting the new line on FlightMemory prevailed Big grin


Both myself and my buddy were nonrev'ing the flight. We were #1 and #2 on the waitlist, so we were cleared about 2 hours prior to departure, given the extreme light load in business class.



Forward Business Class cabin during boarding


In addition to the fwd-J cabin being a ghost town, the aft-J cabin was blocked off completely - to be used for supplemental crew rest during the flight. I was kind of hoping we could sit in rows 5 or 6 in the aft cabin to get a good view of the wing and engines, but i was fine sitting in row 3... still a decent view!!



Cockpit of ship 3352 about 20 minutes prior to departure for NRT


The crew seemed a bit busy when I went up to the cockpit but the captain was a friend of a friend so I went up briefly to introduce myself before the flight. Real nice crew though, I enjoyed talking with them for a few minutes before I went back to my seat.



Crew posing for quick picture. Again, real nice guys!!


Given the extreme light load, we were going to depart about 20 to 25 minutes early. The gate agents were able to get the doors closed at the early departure time but we waited nearly 35 minutes on the ramp, still loading the plane - causing us to depart about 10 minutes late.



View out the window of 3J just prior to pushback in a rather rainy SLC


Departure out of SLC was rather interesting. We used runway 34L, taking quite a long takeoff roll despite being really light. Immediately after takeoff, we made a turn to near due west to climb, not heading directly into the mountains north of the field. Once we climbed to a sufficient altitude, we turned back to the north-west to begin the great-circle "tracks" across the Pacific.

The dinner service went rather quickly given the light load up front. During and after dinner I watched that Clint Eastwood movie "Gran Torino" which I thought was really good - Clint Eastwood is one BAMF.

Again, I'm sorry I don't have any pics to post of the dinner service or arrival snack service.



Menu for SLC-NRT and the brand-new Delta A330 safety card






07 July 2009
NW798, JFK-NRT, Operated by Delta Air Lines
Block Time: 12 hours, 40 minutes
777-232/ER, N860DA, ship# 7001
Seat: 3J, BusinessElite

Load Factor-
Business: 30%
Coach: 95%




As for the flight home, my buddy was flying onward to LHR and I was flying back to DEN. Again, as we were both nonrev'ing, JFK seemed to be the best city for both of us to catch flights home to our respective airports. We considered taking AA on NRT-JFK as AA is my favorite airline to take internationally. However, AA's NRT-JFK is scheduled to arrive at 605p while the DL NRT-JFK is scheduled to arrive at 305p. So, we decided to take DL as it was scheduled to arrive substantially earlier.



Ship 7001 (N860DA) sitting in remote parking prior to being towed to the gate


NW798 got off to a bad start in NRT due to quite the gate shuffle, as all gates in NRT are common-use. Our plane was finally towed into the gate only about 45 minutes prior to departure, with the crew still needing to board and preform all pre-flight duties.



Our plane to JFK being towed to the gate, already about 30 minutes behind schedule.


To the crew's credit, they were very quick to board and prepare the cabin for passenger boarding. As myself and my buddy were the only two nonrevs on the list, we were again quickly cleared at the gate and given seat assignments together in J-class.



View out the window from 3J. The UA bird next door, N782UA, I believe was going to IAD. For those of you that know UA, seeing (N7xxUA) 777's on routes north of 12 hours is rather rare.



Aft BusinessElite cabin during boarding. There were only 3 or 4 pax in the aft J-cabin.



View from 3J looking forward. Amenity kit and slippers in the seat pockets.



Fwd J-class cabin - sorry about the glare. Again, J-class was a ghost town on this flight, only 15 of 50.


In addition to getting off to a bad start with the gate swap issues, after the doors were closed they had to be reopened to let maintenance on-board. Apparently some non-deferrable ETOPS maintenance item came up at the last second, adding another 15 minutes departure delay.

Soon enough though, we were finally on our way to JFK.



Number 5 in line for departure from NRT. NW A332 and DL 744 visible in background.


Takeoff out of NRT took a surprisingly long roll. I guess I had forgotten that we were scheduled on a 12:40 blocktime where I'm more used to the much shorter flights to the west coast. Further to that, little did I realize that we were tankering an extra 2 hours of contingency fuel for the forecasted storms over JFK at our expected time of arrival.



Turning toward the north-east after departure from NRT, coast of Japan and the Pacific Ocean below.


Again, I'm very sorry I don't have any pictures of any of the meal services. I will say though, DL's international catering is quite impressive. My favorite is always the soup, salad, and bread course they serve. Always very good!!



Initial cruise at FL350 just prior to sunset over the Pacific Ocean


On the way back home, I didn't watch any movies, instead just watching a few episodes of "The Office" and "The Simpsons" as well as some audio on demand. I did also watch the moving map quite a bit, as I was interested to see that we were doing a mid-Pacific track back home as opposed to the bit more typical great-circle track. The jetstream winds must have provided a huge tail-wind for us given this far longer routing.



Just prior to approach into JFK, already one hour late. Note 7000 mile distance


On initial approach into JFK, I was quick to realize that ATC put us into holding. Foolishly before leaving NRT, I didn't check the weather forecast for the NYC area. As Murphy's Law would dictate, we were given a clearance to enter holding with an expect further clearance time of one hour.



Holding for 1 hour over the storms above the NYC airports


After approx 1.5 hours of holding, we were finally able to complete the approach and land in JFK. Little did I realize, there was one hell of a traffic jam on the ground in JFK, and we had to sit for another 30 minutes while we waited for the traffic to clear and we could taxi back to our arrival gate. All in all, we ended up arriving a full 3 hours late at 605pm.



Slats out on final approach into JFK


In retrospect, it almost would have been better if we had taken AA on NRT-JFK, as they only arrived two minutes late at 607p compared to their scheduled arrival time of 605p.  Silly


After arriving in JFK, I luckily made my connection onto B6 for JFK-DEN without too much trouble. Given how JFK was still in ATC flow control, we had a departure delay of nearly two hours, but I did *finally* get home!! I was just thankful the flight to DEN didn't cancel altogether.



Menu for NRT-JFK and DL 777-200 safety card (for both ER and LR)


Well, thanks to everyone for reading. A final apology for not having the pictures of the meal services on either flight!! Thanks for reading, though, and all comments & feedback are appreciated!!
 
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Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:25 am

Did the information screens keep changing between languages?
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Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:51 am

Wonderful!
I think DL and NW will be an airline with even better service when they fully come together.
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Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:08 am

Nice report, thank you

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
But, I do at least have a takeoff video from the SLC-NRT flight on the A332!!

Can not find it.
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Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:38 am

Hey Transpac. Another Transpac crossing! Cool trip report! Glad you had roomy J cabins both ways, that's always nice.

Sorry you lost some photos.

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
going to spend a few days out in NRT - go see downtown Tokyo and such, which I've never actually done despite having been to NRT nine times now, haha.

Yeah there's probably more to it than just the airport!

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
It's been a bit of a random personal goal of mine to fly every NRT-US city pair there is, at least those on NW, AA, UA, and DL.

With that admission, you now no longer have the right to give me crap about going to LHR all the time!!!

Sorry you had such a bad time coming home via JFK. It was a very bad day at JFK--they were talking about it at work! And yes, you should have flown AA! Oh well, maybe next time!

Thanks for sharing!
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Tue Jul 14, 2009 4:25 am

Great TR
Sucks you lost your pics, I would be pissed.

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
t's been a bit of a random personal goal of mine to fly every NRT-US city pair there is, at least those on NW, AA, UA, and DL.

So since you have all of the pairs are you going to start doing Europe, where all the action is?  Smile

That is horrible about circling for 3hrs, those are the worst things after you are on a plane for 12+ hrs to just add time on
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Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:06 am

Hey Matt, nice report once more! Which of the seats did you like better? I think the DL leather looks great, are those flight loads always that low?

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Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:31 pm

Bummer grande on the loss of pics. Did any of downtown Tokyo survive? Great report.

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
Delta A330 safety card

I know you stole that card!  Silly

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
it almost would have been better if we had taken AA on NRT-JFK, as they only arrived two minutes late at 607p compared to their scheduled arrival time of 605p.

Hilarious!  rotfl 
 
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RE: NW A330-200 Biz SLC-NRT, DL 777-200 Biz NRT-JFK

Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:20 pm

Matt, you're crazy

Sounds like a good idea. Damn you!  rotfl 
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Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:32 pm

For a guy who talks smack on them airbus's you sure fly a lot of them! UNACCEPTABLE!  Wink

Once again WN fails to get you to your destination since UA won at the last minute. I am done helping you out via WN  Silly

As always great pics (what you had left of them!) and good report.

Some day soon I shall do a trans pac, but first lets get me intl somewhere so my passport can be used and then abused!

Is the JFK-NRT-JFK new for Delta service, as I realized NW used to fly this route, then dropped it, but I recall DL also flying JFK-NRT along with NW and AA too, and UA? (of the American carriers)

Is JFK-NRT the longest transpac route out of the US period for any airline and you as well Matt?

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Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:07 pm



Quoting DLHFLYER (Reply 1):
Did the information screens keep changing between languages?

Yes!! Oh God that was so annoying!! I'd take a picture then it would be blurry, so I'd have to wait like 7 minutes until it got back around to doing English again!

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 3):
Can not find it.

I know, I'm sorry. I tried to post it from PhotoBucket but a.net keeps giving me this ridiculous error message of "tags not allowed". Since when??....

Quoting DFW13L (Reply 4):
With that admission, you now no longer have the right to give me crap about going to LHR all the time!!!

Hey!! You at least have to complete all LHR-US city pairs on AA!! Then I shall stop giving you hell!! haha

Quoting N104UA (Reply 5):
So since you have all of the pairs are you going to start doing Europe, where all the action is?

Haha I'm considering it. I was half thinking about trying to complete all the NRT-south routes like BKK, SGN, PVG, etc... but that seems rather ambitious, I don't think I could pull that off, haha.

Quoting N104UA (Reply 5):
That is horrible about circling for 3hrs, those are the worst things after you are on a plane for 12+ hrs to just add time on

For sure. We ended up being on that plane for over 15 hours.

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 6):
are those flight loads always that low?

No, quite rare to see NRT loads that low, especially in Biz Class.

Quoting Fxramper (Reply 7):
Did any of downtown Tokyo survive?

Like three, haha. Unfortunately, most of them were of us getting smashed on sakke... yikes.

Quoting Fxramper (Reply 7):
I know you stole that card!

*shifty eyes* who told you??.....  Wink

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 9):
For a guy who talks smack on them airbus's you sure fly a lot of them! UNACCEPTABLE!

That was only my 4th A330 as compared to 16x 777's and 20x 744's!! The ratio is still acceptable!!

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 9):
I am done helping you out via WN

Oh come on, WN was totally full on DEN-LAX so don't even give me that!! Besides, I'm going to ABQ in a month so stop your bitchin' Big grin

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 9):
Some day soon I shall do a trans pac, but first lets get me intl somewhere so my passport can be used and then abused!

Planning on Kuwait around the end of the month. What say you to going there??

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 9):
DL also flying JFK-NRT along with NW and AA too, and UA? (of the American carriers)

From what I remember - NW, UA, and DL were all operating JFK-NRT when AA announced they would start it. A.net was quick to get on AA's case, saying the route was doomed and they were quite foolish for starting it. Then, one by one, DL, NW, and UA all dropped the route. Funny how those things work out *smirks*

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 9):
Is JFK-NRT the longest transpac route out of the US period for any airline and you as well Matt?

It's actually the third longest, behind ATL-NRT and IAD-NRT. However, given ATC delays in and out of JFK, the blocktimes on JFK-NRT tend to be longer than both ATL-NRT and IAD-NRT, despite it being shorter distance-wise.
 
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Did you get breakfast or lunch for your pre-arrival snack into NRT? Also, which seats were better?
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Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:08 am



Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 10):
Haha I'm considering it. I was half thinking about trying to complete all the NRT-south routes like BKK, SGN, PVG, etc... but that seems rather ambitious, I don't think I could pull that off, haha.

Well sounds like fun maybe you could get them all out over a week of flying non-stop  Smile
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Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:58 pm

Thanks for a wonderful TR. I was wondering if you could post the amenity kit - seems like they changed again and I'd love to take a look.

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Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:18 pm

Thanks for the TR! It's great seeing this new international route from my "home airport" SLC.

It's pretty weird seeing a NW jet that size there... previously, it's been anything up to a 757 to, say, MSP or DTW, that's all.
 
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Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:14 pm

Nice Pics...I really Like the Airbus Cockpit...I tend to forget what it looks like...Flightsim tends to do that to me  Smile
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Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:51 pm



Quoting Evan767 (Reply 11):
Did you get breakfast or lunch for your pre-arrival snack into NRT?

Into NRT was breakfast, though they had a few "brunch" type options - like a meat & cheese cold plate which I ended up getting.

Quoting Evan767 (Reply 11):
Also, which seats were better?

While the NW seats are angled-flat I do tend to prefer those a bit more as it's easier to sleep on my side than as opposed to the recliner seats.

Quoting N104UA (Reply 12):
Well sounds like fun maybe you could get them all out over a week of flying non-stop

Haha yea... I'd have to get a China and Vietnam visa. Besides, US CBP probably would give me quite the thorough run-down if I showed up and said that I had been to like 8-9 asian countries within a few days.

Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 13):
I was wondering if you could post the amenity kit - seems like they changed again and I'd love to take a look.

I wish I could but I didn't take it, haha. I'm hoping to do another NW/DL trip in a few days though so I'll be sure to grab it off that one.

Quoting Thule (Reply 14):
It's pretty weird seeing a NW jet that size there...

With the 767-400's mostly gone from SLC, the A332 is probably the biggest thing in there now, I'd imagine??

Quoting FCA767 (Reply 15):
Note: you can recover any deleted files from your camera...

How?!
 
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Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:55 pm



Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 16):

How?!

There are several programs out there, i have one that came with my memory card from Sandisk.

Btw, lucky you got on the SLC-NRT flight since it is being cancelled starting August 31st
 
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Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 17):
Btw, lucky you got on the SLC-NRT flight since it is being cancelled starting August 31st

Are you sure about that? It still shows bookable after that.
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Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:56 pm



Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 17):
Btw, lucky you got on the SLC-NRT flight since it is being cancelled starting August 31st

No, it remains through the winter. Where'd you hear that??
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Later in the thread (also in the link) it discusses how SLC-NRT and SLC-CDG will both operate through the winter though at less-than-daily frequency.
 
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Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 19):
No, it remains through the winter. Where'd you hear that??

Perhaps i just mis-read it and it only is cancelled on August 31st.
 
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Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:00 pm

Hi Matt,

Nice report & pictures, shame you lost the meal service pictures, always good to see what is being offered up.

I guess the A330 flight was pretty uneventful, you don't say much about it.

Quoting Transpac787 (Thread starter):
To be honest, I was a bit nervous to be taking this flight. In the wake of the AF crash and there being a few other in-flight instrumentation failures subsequently (one of them on NW),

- Don't worry, safer than crossing the street!

Good to see DL have a 2-2-2 confing in J on the 772's, unlike many which have 2-3-2.

Regards

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