gjunnar
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Stuttgart-Buffalo On CO (via LHR, EWR, FRA - PIX!)

Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:38 pm

Dear reader,

this year, my trip to the new world was not going to go to the American West, instead, I was going to see my uncle and aunt in Waterloo, Ontaria, Canada. I hadn't been there for 8 years so it was about time to pay them another visit in late June. My best friend Alex didn't mind coming along and meeting my relatives so we did this trip together.
Starting point of course is "the a.net regular" STR. The simple choice would be to fly into YYZ which I have done twice before and would have set us back about EUR410 with KLM. Always interested in interesting alternatives we checked other airports that are acceptable distance-wise and this is what we found: a flight into BUF via EWR on Continental for 328EUR. CO doesn't serve STR so we would have to change planes at some European airport and at EWR.

For the outbound flight, options were to connect in HAM, TXL, AMS or LHR. LHR was 10EUR more expensive but had several advantages over the other airports.
1) I love LHR
2) I love the 777 (the other routes would have been on the 757)
3) I love BA (on STR-LHR; BA pretty much is my favorite airline)
The flight home could have been through FRA or AMS. FRA was cheaper, allowed a later departure out of BUF and was on the 764. For the last leg to STR we chose the train over the plane as it was cheaper and we were going to be home 2h earlier (plus the flight would have been the BAe146 which I was not too eager to fly).

Interesting to see that CO cooperates with all kinds of European carriers for the commute to the European CO airports. BA, KL, LH, AB. You name it. This probably will change once CO eventually moves over to Star Alliance. However, for this trip I still was able to put some miles on my DL SkyMiles account.

One notice before we get started: Some of the pictures I have edited with picasa. You'll see the difference.

All right, let's get in medias res.


BA917 STR-LHR (about 85% full)
A319 G-EUPN
Seat 21F, Gate 109/110
Wednesday 6/24/2009: 0700-0750


Traffic was very light at about 5.30 on "my" notoriously busy and often clogged B27 freeway so we arrived with plenty of time. I had checked in online so we just had to get our boarding pass to LHR and drop our baggage. I knew the BA agent at the desk from my earlier trips, this morning he was just as friendly as always and checked our baggage in no time.
Security never really is a hazzle in STR, however this morning one of the security staff really took his job seriously and searched and touched almost every part of my body. Creepy.

STR at 6 in the morning, showing the morning rush of X3, DE, AB and 4U at runway 07 while most of the legacies are still sitting at the gates
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Just like last year, I have to show off a Mercedes at "Benztown" Stuttgart (new E-class)
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About 25 minutes prior to 7 boarding started. BA917 – the flight I have been on 3 times before.
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A319 waiting for the boarding process to be completed. It was going to be almost completely full, just like all other flights on this journey.
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We pushed back a little after 7 and taxied the short way to runway 07 where we had to wait for quite some time due to STR's little rush hour in the morning. Here we see a CR9 of SK to CPH.
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Take-off video (bummer a.net doesn't allow embedded videos):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEIoCGi4yFs

Right after take-off: freeway intersection of A8 and B313 near Wendlingen.
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We started our climb out east and then to my surprise turned right for a passing of the airport on the south. I literally sat on the "right" side of the plane so some magnificent views and pictures of STR were possible.
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The terminal buildings, the exposition area, and planes lining up for 07.
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A last view of STR.
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The A319 is one powerful plane and lifted us high up very quickly.
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Sandwich and coffee.
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A display of our routing to LHR, dead straight track over France.
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All in all, the flight was uneventful. Just another one-hour intra-European flight, and BA did a great job as usual. Nothing out of the ordinary though, just their standard product which simply is really good indeed. 3 male f/a outnumbered one female. Lots of of male f/a - an observation I have had on several BA flights before.
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An approach into LHR isn't complete withour at least one holding  Wink Making our way west for a 9L landing. As we sat on the right side (I had hoped for a 27 approach), we didn't get to see Windsor castle but several other smaller castles; they are just abundant in England.
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M5 seconds before we passed the airport fence.
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T5!
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We landed several minutes ahead of time and taxied to T5. And there we were. Sure T5 is a nice construction!
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Unfortunately, we didn't get to see a lot of T5 as CO uses T4 which meant another unique LHR bus ride. Man, simply a stunning apron tour, there is so much to see @LHR.
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Actually the bus ride took quite a while and of course we had to cross the southern runway through the tunnel. The load on the bus was really light, an indication for what we would observe shortly after - T4 is a pretty deserted place nowadays. Airlines using T4 are (among others) CO, DL, QF, KL. Quite a difference to the times when BA performed almost all their intercontinental operations there.
Anyway, our connection in LHR went well and about 45 minutes after touchdown we had our new CO boarding passes and were ready for the next flight.

My first A380!
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Who wants to help me here? What kind of special (government?) 747-400 is that?
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Beautiful airplane!
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T4, kinda boring.
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Our plane had already arrived and waited at the gate. Boarding was still ~1h away so we spent the time watching the traffic on the apron and departing on 9R. Security staff was gracious and let me take pictures.
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Next are a couple of pictures I took while waiting for boarding to start.
CO actually has quite a few flights out of LHR every day.
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Our crew?
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CO29 LHR-EWR (about 100% full)
777-200 N77012
Seat 41L
Wednesday 6/24/2009: 1025-1315


About 50 minutes before scheduled time of departure boarding started with the rows in the rear first. Still people were gathering and clogging the gate so I wasn't sure if they were in line or just waiting for their row to be called.
Anyway, I was one of the first Y pax to be on board and could witness a clean and spacious 777 cabin. Seat pitch was really good and the TV screen pretty big. A very good first impression!

Also nice views out my window.
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More proof of CO's presence at LHR.
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UA now only at T1. IMO LHR is losing a little bit of its chaotic charme now that everything is so cleaned up with all the airlines/alliances having their own secluded terminal sections.
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AC 763 while we waited for quite a while to cross the southern runway. Why did we have to cross it anyway? There is a taxiway on the southern side of 9R-27R! Any pointers?
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The second 380 at LHR that day. Funny looking tail.
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Hopefully I will get the chance to fly VS in the future.
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Beautiful 767.
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All BA @ T5 (7x747 1x777).
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After this scenic taxi around LHR and after a short hold, it was our turn to thunder down 9R. Man, the 777 is one powerful soab.

Great view of the QF 380.
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Charming British housing areas.
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Just like on the flight from STR earlier that day, we took a turn to the south and again I was lucky to be sittin on the right. Awesome views of LHR – I was stoked! But see for yourself:
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Fairford RAF airport west of LHR.
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I always want a window but a nice entertainment system is also appreciated. This one on the 777 was really good and offered way too much for just one transatlantic crossing. Unfortunate is the face that you can't watch the flight map and listen to music simultaneously.
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh272/galbrech/pix03/20090624108.jpg

322 movies in total! And all the movies in different languages. I was really impressed.
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But a frequent problem of PTVs seems to be the stabilty of the system – mine crashed soon and had to be rebooted. Hello Linux!
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The system must have crashed at several other seats as well so it was completely rebooted for all screens. Oh well. At least from now on, our anticipated path into EWR was shown.
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After several rounds of drinks, lunch was handed out. I opted for chicken (instead of beef). I have to say the food probably was the worst part of CO's product. It was nothing to write home about, only the metal cutlery was a nice touch. I have to add a couple of words about the flight crew – they were really friendly and caring so the meal really was the only thing I could complain about on that flight.
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About when we made landfall over Newfoundland, we were graced for a couple of minutes with this company 762 which soon left for a more westerly path, maybe into Houston?
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We first leveled off at FL340 and ended up at FL380. The distance traveled is from when the system was rebooted so this isn't really the correct distance.
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The meal that we got about an hour before landing, with a hot sandwich and original Swabian Senf (mustard) from Hengstenberg in Esslingen  Smile
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The skies had been clear over the ocean but it got more overcast on our way south. Here we have pretty scattered clouds, but early we started our descent and flew for a good 20 minutes through massive clouds with no views of the ground whatsoever.
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Now that we slowed down and descended, the flight map got very detailed again. So are there accidentally any locals that are covered on that part of the map (NY state)?
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We do not want to forget a picture of the generous pitch on the 777.
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View south/west on our way to approach EWR from the south.


Low clouds with occasional showers were not the weather we had hoped for.
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Cool and ginormous rest stop in the center of the highway.
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The approach into EWR from the south shows large industrial areas, refineries, oil tanks. Not really pretty. Here we are already on short finals for 4R, seconds from touchdown.
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After only 7h we landed way ahead of schedule at 1250h. Nice views after landing.
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Also nice.
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Terminal C is nice, modern and spacious. Waiting time at immigration was not too long and soon we took the air train to Terminal A. Now that we were landside, we could feel the enormous heat. It rained a bit so it was really damp and everybody was kinda sweaty…
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We had to wait quite a bit at security of Terminal A so we arrived at our gate just a little before boarding started. Good thing our flight from LHR had arrived early cuz otherwise we might have missed our flight.

CO2389 EWR-BUF (full)
ER4 (operated by ExpressJet)
Seat 18C, Gate A24
Wednesday 6/24/2009: 1450-1608


Lots of CO regional flights leave from A. Also Jetblue to Florida.
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The weather had deteriorated but it was still hot.
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The flight was full. Storage space for carry-on is very limited on the ERJ so almost everybody dropped their bags at the door for delivery-at-aircraft.
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Flight path over NJ, PA and NY for a straight approach for BUF's 23 runway.
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh272/galbrech/pix03/20090624177xFlightawareCO2389EWR-BU.gif

The weather got a lot better the more we got away from the NY area.
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NY state around Buffalo.
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First hazy sight of BUF.
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We landed at 1550 after only about 50 minutes. BUF really is a new and pretty airport with long walks. Our baggage was already there when we got down to the lower floor. The rental cars are just across the road and we had our car in no time. A long day of flying had come to an end and I was overall very satisfied with CO's performance.
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Vacation time

Over the next 9 days, we did and saw a lot: shopping, Niagara Falls, 2 border crossings (the American officer friendlier than the Canadian), family reunion, lots of German culture in the Kitchener/Waterloo area, mennonites in Waterloo county, family trips to the Georgian Bay/Lake Huron, a roadtrip to Algonquin (wildlife) and Sandbanks Provincal Parks, Canada Day celebrations on July first in Cobourg on Lake Ontario, a short visit in Toronto, and lots more…

Here are just a few pictures of that time:

Schwaben Inn in Hamilton!! (sorry for the bad quality). As I sad, lots of German influence in that part of Ontario.
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Definitely one of the best things about Canada:
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Cool carvings out of entire tree trunks in Orangeville, ON.


Wildlife at Algonquin Park. A beautiful moose! (Also lots of mosquitos, they were the worst)
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Making our way into downtown Toronto.
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Porter Airlines Q400 at Toronto's city airport from top of CN Tower:
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Classic tourist picture  Wink
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Niagara Falls from the American side a few hours before our flight left.
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CO2402 BUF-EWR (full)
ER4 N21537 (operated by ExpressJet)
Seat 10A, Gate 26
Saturday 7/4/2009: 1640-1802


BUF landside.
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BUF airside.
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Our ERJ arriving from EWR.
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Our plane arrived ahead of time yet a delayed departure was announced. In the end we boarded and departed on time…
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It was a bummer we had to leave on Independence Day, I would have loved to witness the festivities.
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Our plane sitting on the apron.
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Kids handling the baggage. In Europe I have never seen anyone that young working on the apron…
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Leaving BUF.
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A last view of BUF after a 23 departure and the turn east.
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ROC in the distance.
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Nice scattered clouds along the way.
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Our way into EWR which would soon present us with some great views of Manhattan.
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh272/galbrech/pix03/20090705053xFlightawareCO2402BUF-EW.gif

What USAF airport with C17s (?) is that? Anybody?
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Another airport on our way into EWR.
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Beautiful views. New York City!
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A cruise ship on the Hudson river.
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Last cabin shot of this full flight while we waited to cross the western runway after a landing on time.
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A 727  Smile
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A DC-10  Smile sights very rare in Europe nowadays.
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We arrived at Terminal A and fortunately found the way to the transfer bus to C, so this connection was a piece of cake and no more than 20 minutes later, after one more nice apron tour, we were at our gate to Frankfurt.

EWR sure is CO heaven and I have to admit, it gets kinda boring after a while. Here we see the future Star Alliance partners in one frame.
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CO50 EWR-FRA (full)
767-400 N66058
Seat 43L (aisle), Gate C120
Saturday 7/4/2009: 1925-0925


Nice gate set-ups! One had to check passport and boarding card there before being allowed to actually board the actual gate.
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Many CO flights in EWR indeed.
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This is all we saw of our aircraft. Damn jetway.
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At least I got a detailed picture of the main gear.
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Boarding by row, so we were one of the first on board again. Those PTVs are much smaller than the ones on the T7 (I'm sorry I forgot to take a cabin view on the T7). We were in the last row – 44/45 K/L were blocked for the f/a to rest.
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We pushed back a little late but the captain soon told us that our flight time to Frankfurt would be about an hour shorter than scheduled. Here we are lined up for 22R with several regional planes behind us.
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What followed was one of the roughest and shakiest departures I have ever experienced. I don't know why, but that cabin sure was filled with noise!

Right after departure; toll roads are frequent in the NY area.
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I was just blessed with great airport views on this trip. Making our way up north around EWR.
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Terminal C and parts of B with BA, LH, SQ.
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Also great views of Manhattan again in the setting sun. Simply stunning.
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Happy birthday, lady liberty!
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Ellis Island.
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Sure those WTC towers are missing on the southern tip of the peninsula.
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Another overview (I assume JFK in the top left corner)
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Huge Central Park.
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Last view over the city
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Making our way east over New-England. It got darker so I was pretty much done with pictures.
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Service was about the same as on the westbound flight: plenty of drinks (the one f/a always gave me the entire can, the other not), friendly service, but again the food was pretty bad (we were given chicken, I don't know if there had been a choice). Btw – the can of Sprite was all Chinese  Wink
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I think it was the first time that I really got a good portion of sleep on a redeye flight. *thumbs up*

Breakfast was a little better – croissant and a fresh fruit salad.
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In the beginning we picked up the jet stream and soon were way over a 1000km/h and a very early arrival was announced. This, however, changed as time went by and there even were times when there was a headwind.
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LH 744, unfortunately that was the closest we got.
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh272/galbrech/pix03/20090705146.jpg

Wing view, about an hour out of FRA.
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh272/galbrech/pix03/20090705148.jpg

Pilot's announcement before landing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXcJwsQJ8sY

Making a straight shot into FRA for a 7R landing. Therefore FRA is the only airport on this trip that I didn't get a good overview shot of.
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh272/galbrech/pix03/20090705149.jpg

Crossing the River Rhine.
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh272/galbrech/pix03/20090705153.jpg

Runway 18 in sight.
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh272/galbrech/pix03/20090705154.jpg

Over 18 – looking pretty ugly IMO, such a deep cut into the forest. http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh272/galbrech/pix03/20090705155.jpg

Beautiful NW 330. "There's no way around Hesse"
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh272/galbrech/pix03/20090705158.jpg

We arrived at the gate at about 9.10 after a somewhat lengthy taxi. We left through door 1L so we got a sight of the business class section – the seats looked really outdated and kinda shabby.

So maybe there's no way around Hesse, but fortunately there is a way around FRA! This was my first time flying into FRA and boy – I was disappointed. What an ugly airport (considering the terminal buildings)! Probably the ugliest I have ever seen. Also long ways, confusing layouts. At least immigration only took seconds, but then we had to wait at customs for there was an unattended bag somewhere. We had to wait 20 minutes till everything was clear. FRA sure is not to blame for that, but it just fit into the picture.

If you use rail&fly, your bags are delivered to the train station so we could spend the 2 hours at the incredibly huge McDonald's at T2, ubercrowded with endless waiting time on this Sunday morning; at least friendly staff. After some time we took the airtrain from T2 to T1, which always offers some great views of T1 sections B&C. AA logojet  Smile
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh272/galbrech/pix03/20090705159.jpg

Nice Airbus of FRA's largest customer.
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh272/galbrech/pix03/20090705161.jpg

The following way to the train station finally got me cursing about FRA – again super ugly, strange ways, dark halls, dirty floors. Maybe I simply was in the mood to see all the negative parts that morning; I just thought if someone has never been to Germany, this first impression of Germany's largest gateway must be really bad. I will definitely try to avoid FRA in the future.

LH6788 FRA-ZWS (about 40% full in the designated LH car)
ICE (operated by Deutsche Bahn)
Platform 6
Sunday 7/5/2009: 1120-1233


The last leg of this trip was on the ICE, Germany's high-speed train. Sorry, this is the only picture I took of the train that had started in Hamburg-Altona earlier that day.
http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh272/galbrech/pix03/20090705162.jpg

The voyage to Stuttgart Hauptbahnhof took the usual 73 minutes which is really fast. Traveling on the ICE is just really comfortable, smooth, and the Deutsche Bahn staff usually are pretty polite and friendly. I fell asleep for a bit due to the jetlag and the nasty heat that had been around in Germany for the last couple of days with tremendous thunderstorms (in Canada, it hadn't been very warm). We arrived in Stuttgart on time and Alex's parents gave us a ride home. Here this report ends.

Conclusion: CO offered a good economy product for a great price. The routing also was interesting, all flights on time or earlier, all flights with good loads. I didn't like FRA but that's ok, there are plenty of other airports to connect.

Please comment if you have questions or would like to appreciate the work that I put into this report.
Thanks!

[Edited 2009-07-21 11:50:38]
 
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Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:12 pm

Excellent report - your photos of New York from the air are stunning.
 
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Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:17 pm

Hi Gjunnar,

Great report and some really fantastic pictures. It's good to hear that you enjoyed your trip to the USA and Canada. The first part of your report reminded my of my recent trip on the same BA-route, also on BA917 from STR to LHR, but 10 days later. I share your opinion about BA: they are one of the best airlines around.

Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
Starting point of course is "the a.net regular" STR

Well, there can be only one original.  Wink

Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
We started our climb out east and then to my surprise turned right for a passing of the airport on the south. I literally sat on the "right" side of the plane so some magnificent views and pictures of STR were possible.

Really fascinating pictures - as your pictures of LHR and EWR. You were indeed lucky with airport views on that trip.

Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
The meal that we got about an hour before landing, with a hot sandwich and original Swabian Senf (mustard) from Hengstenberg in Esslingen

Good to hear that products from our home area are available above the North Atlantic as well.  Smile

Regards
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Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:46 pm

Hi Gjunnar,

great report with countless stunning pictures! CO's Y class looks nice, but the food is quite a disappointment.

Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
Who wants to help me here? What kind of special (government?) 747-400 is that?

That's V8-ALI, operated by Sultan's Flight of Brunei.

Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
322 movies in total! And all the movies in different languages.

Not bad at all.

Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
We do not want to forget a picture of the generous pitch on the 777.

Generous indeed.

Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
Also great views of Manhattan again in the setting sun. Simply stunning.



Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
Last view over the city

Fantastic shots!

Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
So maybe there's no way around Hesse, but fortunately there is a way around FRA!

I can only agree, I have had several negative experiences at FRA.


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Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:21 pm

Excellent trip report! A pleasure to read and makes me feel like I am doing the trip too (the best kind of TR, in my opinon). Thanks for sharing!

Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
Cool and ginormous rest stop in the center of the highway.

That would be the Vince Lombardi rest stop on the NJ Turnpike (it's the only one in the center of the highway).

Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
What USAF airport with C17s (?) is that? Anybody?

That would be SWF (Newburgh, NY). This airport also has some commercial traffic.

Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
Another airport on our way into EWR.

That would be TTN (Teterboro, NJ). This airport has no commercial traffic. It is noteworthy that this is the airport that JFK Jr. took off from with his small aircraft before crashing near Nantucket. There have also been several airport overruns at this airport, as you can see it is in a very busy area.

Next time, why don't you try BA to JFK (seeing as you seem to like BA a lot; I also think they turn out a consistently good product). Or try VS like you wanted.
At JFK, you can connect to JetBlue to BUF. The airline flies regularly to Buffalo on both A320 and E190 equipment - either way its better than an ERJ (or worse, a Q400). Of course, good views of NYC are not to be had from JFK though....
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Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:42 pm

Great report!

I was kinda surprides to hear about how bad the food was on CO, I thought it would have been better...

High speed trains ROCK!!! Trip Report: Train to Gothenburg, 1st Class (pics) (by LH4116 Jul 10 2009 in Non Aviation)

Thanks for sharing!

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Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:48 pm

Great TR! Really enjoyed it!

I visited Toronto in April 2008, and I went on the same glass floor you showed us, I only stayed there for 10 seconds though lol too scary!
 
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Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:11 pm

fantastic report! Some great pictures you took, very detailed. Looks like the marriage into the star alliance between UA and CO is even more appropiate seeming as they both have (what looks to be) uneditable Y food on transatlantic flights  Big grin
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Tue Jul 21, 2009 10:22 pm

Hi,

always great to a see trip report with STR in it!  Smile Very good read and fantastic pictures, these must have been very scenic flights. I also want to try CO some day, but as of now, they don't have suitable schedules to the destination I need to go to (CRW). IFE/PTV look top-notch.

Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
Swabian Senf (mustard) from Hengstenberg in Esslingen Smile

They know what quality is  Wink

Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
Kids handling the baggage. In Europe I have never seen anyone that young working on the apron...

Me neither... kinda surprises me to see that in the US. I'd love to be in their place though...

Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
A DC-10 Smile sights very rare in Europe nowadays.

FedEx designates them MD-10. DC-10 body and MD-11 avionics, I love these aircraft.

Thanks for sharing.
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Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:20 am

Great trip report.. the pics of NYC are great!!!

Quoting Richierich (Reply 4):
That would be TTN (Teterboro, NJ).

Not to be picky, but TEB is Teterboro.. TTN is Mercer County Airport (Trenton).
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Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:07 am

Real interesting and intriguing trip report! Glad you enjoyed CO.

That young kid working the ramp........could have been "bring your child to work day" here in America. Thought it was in the summer when kids are out of school. Could be wrong though!

In any regard, really enjoyed reading about your experience! Enjoyed it a lot!

Sincerely,

Skyfellow
 
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Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:33 am

Great pics!

Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
But a frequent problem of PTVs seems to be the stabilty of the system – mine crashed soon and had to be rebooted.

I had my first CO trip a few days ago (SNN-EWR) and the AVOD system had to be re-started mid-flight and took about half an hour.
 
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Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:13 am

This is pretty funny! A few months ago I flew ATL-JFK-LHR-STR and also took ICE from Essen to FRA-ATL... almost opposite routing. The BA flight I had was also good they served a vegetable wrap. What a coincidence to see the same route almost just backwards. Great TR!


I also saw my first A380 at LHR when I was there.

[Edited 2009-07-21 20:15:09]
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Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:20 am

Beautiful!
From the pictures to the plane.
DL752 Smile
 
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Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:41 am

Haha, I also flew CO 777 #012, out of London Heathrow, back in March!! Great plane, except at that point, it hadn't yet had the AVOD upgrade!  Sad

And, if I may, please allow me to stick up for Continental's international Y food. It's not as bad as it looks, and it's on par with the offerings from other US BASED carriers. In fact, it beats Northwest all to heck.

It's not KLM, no, but it's fine none the less.

Great TR, glad you enjoyed your journey!
 
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Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:43 pm

Wow great TR. I flew CO from EWR-NRT in '06 on the 777, and I have to say I don't remember the seat pitch being nearly as good. Of course, it's a 13.5 hour flight, but it was one of the most uncomfortable flights I've ever had. Add to that, the absurdly rude and surly cabin crew, and I haven't flown CO since.

I want to give them a second try since it seems they have improved since then, and because they are now the only airline to give complimentary meals in Y on domestic routes!!

Hopefully CO is continuing its upward trend, but it's a shame I just switched from Star Alliance to Skytem  Sad
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Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:51 pm

haha ps cool pic of that rest stop. I drive to NYC area from MD at least a few times a month, and all those rest stops I swear look exactly the same. I've either stopped at every single one of them, or I'm stopping at the exact same one over and over without a damn clue lol
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Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:13 pm

Great report!! The answer to your question about the strange 747 is in one of your pictures. They have the same emblem on the tail. Sultan of Brunei.
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Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:24 pm

Hi Gjunnar,

That was a truly excellent trip report. The writing and the photos were great--especially the pics of Manhattan. Wow!

Sounds like CO provided a good experience overall, even if the best part of the meal was the mustard from Esslingen.

Thanks for sharing!

Tschau,
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Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:55 pm

Hey, Gjunnar,

following STR stories is a kind of duty for me, you know.
Definitely a good read here.

You´re really lucky with airport views around these trip, great pictures.

If nothing goes wrong, there will be something more online in a couple of weeks
around the Toronto area, Toronto City Center, Kitchener and London, Ontario included.

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Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:07 pm

Excellent trip report, really detailed and excellent pics.

I'm flying CO in November and great to get an insight into them before it. Do CO serve alcohol in Y tranatlantic? Anyone have an idea when they will officially join Star?

Well done again
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Wed Jul 22, 2009 7:38 pm

THANK YOU everybody for your replies. I'm overwhelmed by your many comments  Smile



Quoting Kurt (Reply 1):
Excellent report - your photos of New York from the air are stunning.

Thanks, Kurt. For me, one of the best parts of flying is the view from top of the world. And I just got lucky with my seat selection and departure routes.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 2):
Hi Gjunnar,

Great report and some really fantastic pictures. It's good to hear that you enjoyed your trip to the USA and Canada. The first part of your report reminded my of my recent trip on the same BA-route, also on BA917 from STR to LHR, but 10 days later. I share your opinion about BA: they are one of the best airlines around.

Thanks, Contact Air. You just can't go wrong with BA  Smile

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 2):
Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
Starting point of course is "the a.net regular" STR

Well, there can be only one original. Wink

Exactly  Smile Unfortunately I don't as often get the chance to fly as some other STR-based report writers  Wink

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 2):
Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
We started our climb out east and then to my surprise turned right for a passing of the airport on the south. I literally sat on the "right" side of the plane so some magnificent views and pictures of STR were possible.

Really fascinating pictures - as your pictures of LHR and EWR. You were indeed lucky with airport views on that trip.

Totally. Now I just need a better camera for better quality in the future.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 2):
Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
The meal that we got about an hour before landing, with a hot sandwich and original Swabian Senf (mustard) from Hengstenberg in Esslingen

Good to hear that products from our home area are available above the North Atlantic as well. Smile

That's what I thought! Go Schwobalaendle!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
Hi Gjunnar,

great report with countless stunning pictures! CO's Y class looks nice, but the food is quite a disappointment.

Thanks, PlaneHunter. The food was disappointing, yes, but the cost-performance ratio was absolutely (more than) ok.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
Who wants to help me here? What kind of special (government?) 747-400 is that?

That's V8-ALI, operated by Sultan's Flight of Brunei.

Thanks for the info. Pretty plane!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
322 movies in total! And all the movies in different languages.

Not bad at all.

Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
We do not want to forget a picture of the generous pitch on the 777.

Generous indeed.

I know choice is a good thing, but it can get overwhelming. I ended up not watching one movie cuz I couldn't decide  Wink The seat pitch really was excellent for coach!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
Also great views of Manhattan again in the setting sun. Simply stunning.

Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
Last view over the city

Fantastic shots!

Thanks!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
So maybe there's no way around Hesse, but fortunately there is a way around FRA!

I can only agree, I have had several negative experiences at FRA.

Thanks for that reply. I was afraid I was gonna piss off some FRA-lovers here (still am)  Wink

Quoting Richierich (Reply 4):
Excellent trip report! A pleasure to read and makes me feel like I am doing the trip too (the best kind of TR, in my opinon). Thanks for sharing!

Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
Cool and ginormous rest stop in the center of the highway.

That would be the Vince Lombardi rest stop on the NJ Turnpike (it's the only one in the center of the highway).

Thanks, Richierich. The rest stop is pretty conspicuous so I was pretty sure one of the locals could update me on that  Smile

Quoting Richierich (Reply 4):
Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
What USAF airport with C17s (?) is that? Anybody?

That would be SWF (Newburgh, NY). This airport also has some commercial traffic.

Oh alright. I should've checked my last year's trip report cuz I had asked the same question there and gotten the same answer  Wink
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Quoting Richierich (Reply 4):
Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
Another airport on our way into EWR.

That would be TTN (Teterboro, NJ). This airport has no commercial traffic. It is noteworthy that this is the airport that JFK Jr. took off from with his small aircraft before crashing near Nantucket. There have also been several airport overruns at this airport, as you can see it is in a very busy area.

Very interesting facts there, Richierich!

Quoting Richierich (Reply 4):
Next time, why don't you try BA to JFK (seeing as you seem to like BA a lot; I also think they turn out a consistently good product). Or try VS like you wanted.
At JFK, you can connect to JetBlue to BUF. The airline flies regularly to Buffalo on both A320 and E190 equipment - either way its better than an ERJ (or worse, a Q400). Of course, good views of NYC are not to be had from JFK though....

Sounds good  Smile I've never been to JFK so that is definitely one my to-do/see list (as is a VS flight). So if I get the chance to fly thru JFK at a good price - count me in!
The ERJ sure is not the greatest plane, but I would definitely want to try out the Q400 some day.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 5):
Great report!

I was kinda surprides to hear about how bad the food was on CO, I thought it would have been better...

High speed trains ROCK!!!

Thanks for sharing!

//Jonas

Thanks, LH4116. Maybe I just had bad luck with the food for two consecutive times and usually it is good?!?
In general, I would always prefer the plane over the train, but of course you're right - high speed trains are fun to ride and this time it was just the better deal.

Quoting Egyptair269 (Reply 6):
Great TR! Really enjoyed it!

I visited Toronto in April 2008, and I went on the same glass floor you showed us, I only stayed there for 10 seconds though lol too scary!

Thanks, Egyptair269. Haha, you haven't been to Toronto unless you stand on that glass floor  Wink I wasn't really scared but definitely surprised how thin the glass was!

Quoting Tommy767 (Reply 7):
fantastic report! Some great pictures you took, very detailed. Looks like the marriage into the star alliance between UA and CO is even more appropiate seeming as they both have (what looks to be) uneditable Y food on transatlantic flights Big grin

Thanks, Tommy767.
Haha, I haven't had the pleasure of flying UA so far so I can't compare. I guess economic conditions call for bad food these days  Wink

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 8):
Hi,

always great to a see trip report with STR in it! Smile Very good read and fantastic pictures, these must have been very scenic flights. I also want to try CO some day, but as of now, they don't have suitable schedules to the destination I need to go to (CRW). IFE/PTV look top-notch.

Thanks, Luftfahrer. Fortunately, there are plenty of trip reports out of STR thanks to you, ContactAir, Flieger67, Ndebele (and sometimes me).
The PTV on the T7 was excellent, the one on the 764 however was pretty bad.

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 8):
Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
Swabian Senf (mustard) from Hengstenberg in Esslingen Smile

They know what quality is Wink

Word.

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 8):
Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
Kids handling the baggage. In Europe I have never seen anyone that young working on the apron...

Me neither... kinda surprises me to see that in the US. I'd love to be in their place though...

I have tried a couple of times to get a (summer) job at the airport but never succeeded. I would have LOVED to do what those guys do.

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 8):
Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
A DC-10 Smile sights very rare in Europe nowadays.

FedEx designates them MD-10. DC-10 body and MD-11 avionics, I love these aircraft.

Thanks for sharing.

Thanks for the info.
 
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Quoting Nkops (Reply 9):
Great trip report.. the pics of NYC are great!!!

Quoting Richierich (Reply 4):
That would be TTN (Teterboro, NJ).

Not to be picky, but TEB is Teterboro.. TTN is Mercer County Airport (Trenton).

Thanks Nkops. Believe me I was stoked about our take-off routing and leaned over Alex for quite a while (he had the window) to get those shots.

Quoting Skyfellow (Reply 10):
Real interesting and intriguing trip report! Glad you enjoyed CO.

That young kid working the ramp........could have been "bring your child to work day" here in America. Thought it was in the summer when kids are out of school. Could be wrong though!

In any regard, really enjoyed reading about your experience! Enjoyed it a lot!

Sincerely,

Skyfellow

Thanks, Skyfellow. Quite possible that is was "bring your child to work day", I just didn't see any adult workers around that could've brought 'em  Wink

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 11):
Great pics!

Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
But a frequent problem of PTVs seems to be the stabilty of the system – mine crashed soon and had to be rebooted.

I had my first CO trip a few days ago (SNN-EWR) and the AVOD system had to be re-started mid-flight and took about half an hour.

Thanks, Shamrock. That's a problem I heard about quite frequently. I think that also was one of the reasons that LH waited so long to install PTVs in coach - the wanted a trouble-free system.

Quoting Widget1580 (Reply 12):
This is pretty funny! A few months ago I flew ATL-JFK-LHR-STR and also took ICE from Essen to FRA-ATL... almost opposite routing. The BA flight I had was also good they served a vegetable wrap. What a coincidence to see the same route almost just backwards. Great TR!

I also saw my first A380 at LHR when I was there.

Thanks, Widget1580. Funny about your routing (especially since there is the nonstop DL flight ATL-STR! What brought you to STR? Why don't you write a trip report about it?
Yeah, for now as the A380 is not as common yet, there are just not that many airports where they can be spotted.

Quoting DL752 (Reply 13):
Beautiful!
From the pictures to the plane.
DL752 Smile

Thanks, DL752. I really try to take good pictures, it's just my camera ain't the best, only the zoom is a good feature (Fuji S5700).

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 14):
Haha, I also flew CO 777 #012, out of London Heathrow, back in March!! Great plane, except at that point, it hadn't yet had the AVOD upgrade! Sad

And, if I may, please allow me to stick up for Continental's international Y food. It's not as bad as it looks, and it's on par with the offerings from other US BASED carriers. In fact, it beats Northwest all to heck.

It's not KLM, no, but it's fine none the less.

Great TR, glad you enjoyed your journey!

Thanks, AA737-823. I regularly checked CO's website cuz they listed which of the 777 had AVOD and by 6/24 all (except 1?) had been upgraded.

It's kinda funny - I don't care that much about the food but it seems to draw the greatest attention here  Wink Give me a flight 5EUR cheaper and I will eat cat poop  Wink
I can only assure you that my food was bad but I'm sure that's not the standard way. I have been on DL's and AA's TATL flights and food was quite decent on both.

Quoting SkyHigh777 (Reply 15):
Wow great TR. I flew CO from EWR-NRT in '06 on the 777, and I have to say I don't remember the seat pitch being nearly as good. Of course, it's a 13.5 hour flight, but it was one of the most uncomfortable flights I've ever had. Add to that, the absurdly rude and surly cabin crew, and I haven't flown CO since.

I want to give them a second try since it seems they have improved since then, and because they are now the only airline to give complimentary meals in Y on domestic routes!!

Hopefully CO is continuing its upward trend, but it's a shame I just switched from Star Alliance to Skytem Sad

Thanks, SkyHigh777. Bummer to hear about your unpleasant CO experience. I had heard a lot of good things about CO before I got the chance to find out myself. I would say I liked my DL flights last year a little better, but the AVOD on the 777 of course was sweet!
I'm sure any airline around the world can have a bad day on a particular day - any! So I'm positive the next time you try CO (be fast, as of now they're still Skyteam) you won't be disappointed.

Quoting SkyHigh777 (Reply 16):
haha ps cool pic of that rest stop. I drive to NYC area from MD at least a few times a month, and all those rest stops I swear look exactly the same. I've either stopped at every single one of them, or I'm stopping at the exact same one over and over without a damn clue lol

LOL. Damn if all the rest stops are as huge...

Quoting Md95 (Reply 17):
Great report!! The answer to your question about the strange 747 is in one of your pictures. They have the same emblem on the tail. Sultan of Brunei.

Thanks, Md95. You're right, I should have noticed...now that you mention it  Wink

Quoting BZNPilot (Reply 18):
Hi Gjunnar,

That was a truly excellent trip report. The writing and the photos were great--especially the pics of Manhattan. Wow!

Sounds like CO provided a good experience overall, even if the best part of the meal was the mustard from Esslingen.

Thanks for sharing!

Tschau,
BZNPilot

Thanks BZNPilot.
I guess mustard from Esslingen would probably be the best part of any airline meal  Wink
Tschau  Smile

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 19):
Hey, Gjunnar,

following STR stories is a kind of duty for me, you know.
Definitely a good read here.

You´re really lucky with airport views around these trip, great pictures.

If nothing goes wrong, there will be something more online in a couple of weeks
around the Toronto area, Toronto City Center, Kitchener and London, Ontario included.

Greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)

Thanks, Markus. Same for me – every STR trip report is a must-read.
Awesome – I'm looking forward to your Canada report! When are you going? If you're going to be in Kitchener, you will definitely notice the German influence there.

Quoting EIRules (Reply 20):
Excellent trip report, really detailed and excellent pics.

I'm flying CO in November and great to get an insight into them before it. Do CO serve alcohol in Y tranatlantic? Anyone have an idea when they will officially join Star?

Well done again
Andy

Thanks, Andy. What plane is scheduled for your flight in November? If you're on the T7, you definitely have something to look forward to. You get alcohol in Y for about 6$ as is common practice on all the American carriers.
I'm not sure but I think CO's move to Star is due for next year (Jan 1st).

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Hey, Gjunnar,

Quoting Gjunnar (Reply 22):
I'm looking forward to your Canada report! When are you going? If you're going to be in Kitchener, you will definitely notice the German influence there.

A long weekend in August with eight legs on AirTransat, AirCanada, Porter and Westjet.
I will miss the Kitchener ride on the AirGeorgian B1900 with the latest TS schedule change,
but still working on it.

Greetings,
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Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:34 pm

This is really one the best trip reports I've ever read. Excellent text and photos. And you traveled through two of the airports I have visited most often, EWR and BUF. What was the date of the LH 747 you had in the picture? I was on an LH 747 from EWR to FRA on 6/29/09. I have to agree with you about FRA, I was so disappointed. The airport didn't have any of the flavor of Germany, and it was so poorly laid out and the restrooms were so dirty that I couldn't believe I was at an international hub. They also have very limited ability to handle disabled passengers. I will report much more on my trip report, but I'm ashamed to say in advance that it will not nearly be as good and thorough as your trip report!
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Wed Jul 22, 2009 10:35 pm

What an excellent TR!!  You certainly have a rare talent for creating interesting and thoughtful reports.  I hope that you continue to document your travels whenever you are on holiday.  Again, job well done!!
 
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Quoting Gjunnar (Reply 22):
Thanks, Widget1580. Funny about your routing (especially since there is the nonstop DL flight ATL-STR! What brought you to STR? Why don't you write a trip report about it?

I have a friend who moved there from Chicago. I would have taken the non-stop but I only had 4 days off of work and the DL flight to STR is not daily. I nonrevved to LHR and bought a ticket on BA. He had to come back to the states for something so I gave him a buddy pass and we flew out of FRA together. I am planning on coming back towards the end of August.

I didn't write a TR becuase I didn't take any pictures. And TRs without pictures are no fun.
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Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:49 am

Hi Gjunnar! Great report with some amazing pictures from the planes on the airports.
Simply stunning!
Also CO is an average carrier, but I think you have got a good deal with them!
Considering FRA, it is strange as it is one of my favorite airports together with AMS,ZRH and MUC.
But I admit that it's getting very old, and some refurbishments are highly recommendable.
Thanks for sharing your experiences!

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Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:00 pm

Fantastic report and great job with the pics. My favorites are the FX birds at EWR.  Silly
 
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Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
Now that we slowed down and descended, the flight map got very detailed again. So are there accidentally any locals that are covered on that part of the map (NY state)?

Yep, looks like you flew right over my house  Smile

The larger lake in the pic is Saratoga Lake. The little round one beneath it is Round Lake. The North/South river is the Hudson and the East/West river is the Mohawk. KALB is close to where the rivers intersect.

I enjoyed your TR very much. Nice job!

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Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:36 pm

Hi Gjunnar,

Awesome TR! I especially like your LHR aerial pictures very much!

Cheers,
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Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:19 pm

Fantastic report and amazing photos. I also love the views of New York, makes me want to go. Glad you had a good CO experience apart from the food but that seems to the norm of Europe-USA flights these days on alot of carriers. Im looking forward to having CO in Star Alliance so I can earn and burn miles.

Thanks again

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Hi Gjunnar,

thanks for the interesting report. For sure an good routing to fly and definetly more interesting then just a one-stopper via AMS or so!
Good amount pictures. The NYC views are nice, remembers me on my visit last April to the Big Apple. Really want to return, hopefully soon!
I think legroom is a good think on the US carriers' B777s ? I flew on AA's B772, and legroom was very good as well.

Regards,
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Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:42 pm

Again, thank you all for your replies. I really appreciate it!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 23):
A long weekend in August with eight legs on AirTransat, AirCanada, Porter and Westjet.
I will miss the Kitchener ride on the AirGeorgian B1900 with the latest TS schedule change,
but still working on it.

Wow, all the way to Canada just for a long weekend  Wink And I believed 10 days that my trip took all together was short...You seem to have a long list of flights on that trip - that certainly will be one interesting trip report. Hopefully you will make the Kitchener flight, I've never seen a report about Kitchener airport before.

Quoting Daviation (Reply 24):
This is really one the best trip reports I've ever read. Excellent text and photos. And you traveled through two of the airports I have visited most often, EWR and BUF. What was the date of the LH 747 you had in the picture? I was on an LH 747 from EWR to FRA on 6/29/09. I have to agree with you about FRA, I was so disappointed. The airport didn't have any of the flavor of Germany, and it was so poorly laid out and the restrooms were so dirty that I couldn't believe I was at an international hub. They also have very limited ability to handle disabled passengers. I will report much more on my trip report, but I'm ashamed to say in advance that it will not nearly be as good and thorough as your trip report!

Thanks, Daviation. There are plenty of really great trip reports in this forum so I sincerely appreciate your kind words. The LH 747 was in the morning of July 5, a week later than your flight.
Sorry you didn't have a good time at FRA either. I know there's a lot of people that like FRA so maybe we've just seen the bad parts and there's better parts (the F class terminal for instance  Wink ). I'm very much looking forward to your trip report!

Quoting Caleb1 (Reply 25):
What an excellent TR!! You certainly have a rare talent for creating interesting and thoughtful reports. I hope that you continue to document your travels whenever you are on holiday. Again, job well done!!

Thanks, Caleb. As I said before, there are many really good reports here (thank god). I will certainly write more reports whenever I get to go on interesting trips (probably not more than one a year - after all I don't fly that often).

Quoting Widget1580 (Reply 26):
I have a friend who moved there from Chicago. I would have taken the non-stop but I only had 4 days off of work and the DL flight to STR is not daily. I nonrevved to LHR and bought a ticket on BA. He had to come back to the states for something so I gave him a buddy pass and we flew out of FRA together. I am planning on coming back towards the end of August.

I didn't write a TR becuase I didn't take any pictures. And TRs without pictures are no fun.

Alright, I see. Non-reving definitely is good reason to take such a routing let alone flying through JFK and LHR. I agree that reports should have pictures so maybe you wanna bring a camera on your trip in August  Wink

Quoting DALCE (Reply 27):
Hi Gjunnar! Great report with some amazing pictures from the planes on the airports.
Simply stunning!
Also CO is an average carrier, but I think you have got a good deal with them!
Considering FRA, it is strange as it is one of my favorite airports together with AMS,ZRH and MUC.
But I admit that it's getting very old, and some refurbishments are highly recommendable.
Thanks for sharing your experiences!

viele Grüsse,
Joost (D-ALCE)

Thanks, Joost. I was really surprised to get such a good deal during peak season. Sometimes a recession brings about good things as well  Wink (not for the airline tho).
FRA seems to be one giant construction site and will probably never be finished. However, traffic there of course is fantastic! Unfortunately I've never flown thru MUC and ZRH, I'm sure they are a lot nicer. I have been to AMS though, back in 1989 (I was very little then, so not too many memories  Wink )

Quoting Fxramper (Reply 28):
Fantastic report and great job with the pics. My favorites are the FX birds at EWR. Silly

I bet  Wink. Seriously, those planes are fantastic and I wish they were still around in Europe. How about FX buy some Tristars, those would fit right in  Smile

Quoting SmAlbany (Reply 29):

Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
Now that we slowed down and descended, the flight map got very detailed again. So are there accidentally any locals that are covered on that part of the map (NY state)?

Yep, looks like you flew right over my house Smile

The larger lake in the pic is Saratoga Lake. The little round one beneath it is Round Lake. The North/South river is the Hudson and the East/West river is the Mohawk. KALB is close to where the rivers intersect.

I enjoyed your TR very much. Nice job!

Dan

Thanks, Dan. I figured there will be someone - cool that you answered. Also thanks for your info about the area. Unfortunately we flew through thick clouds there so I didn't get a chance to spot ALB and the other sites you mentioned.

Quoting Akhmad (Reply 30):
Hi Gjunnar,

Awesome TR! I especially like your LHR aerial pictures very much!

Cheers,
Suryo

Thanks, Suryo. I have to agree here - of all my pictures I like the LHR aerials the most, too  Smile

Quoting OA260 (Reply 31):
Fantastic report and amazing photos. I also love the views of New York, makes me want to go. Glad you had a good CO experience apart from the food but that seems to the norm of Europe-USA flights these days on alot of carriers. Im looking forward to having CO in Star Alliance so I can earn and burn miles.

Thanks again

OA260

Thanks, OA260. CO sticks out from the crowd a little bit as they still offer full meals on domestic flights (I hear, I didn't get to chance to find out myself) so you hear a lot of good things about them. I agree they did a good job (nothing out of the ordinary, but very ok).
NYC definitely is on my to-see list, too!

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 32):
Hi Gjunnar,

thanks for the interesting report. For sure an good routing to fly and definetly more interesting then just a one-stopper via AMS or so!
Good amount pictures. The NYC views are nice, remembers me on my visit last April to the Big Apple. Really want to return, hopefully soon!
I think legroom is a good thing on the US carriers' B777s ? I flew on AA's B772, and legroom was very good as well.

Regards,
Eric

Thanks, Eric. As I said earlier, the last time I flew through AMS (to YYZ) was in 1989 when I was very little so it is about time I should get an update  Wink Chances actually are I will be flying to AMS in September - as the final destination, not to connect.
I've been on AA's 777 and their legroom was very good, too. Unfortunately I don't know about DL's and UA's 777. Yet another reason to go back to the states soon  Smile
 
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Fri Jul 24, 2009 9:32 am



Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
Who wants to help me here? What kind of special (government?) 747-400 is that?

Look for a white and yellow 767 in one of your pictures. Compare the logo on the tail with the one on the 744. Voila!  Smile

BTW, great trip report!  bigthumbsup 
 
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Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:00 am

I was at Niagara Falls that same day...I wonder if we saw each other. Great report; great pictures and great descriptions. And now I know to bring my own food if I ever find myself flying CO long haul. Thanks!
 
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Sun Jul 26, 2009 7:33 pm



Quoting Afterburner (Reply 34):
Look for a white and yellow 767 in one of your pictures. Compare the logo on the tail with the one on the 744. Voila! Smile

BTW, great trip report! bigthumbsup

Thanks, Afterburner. Indeed, who would have thought the answer is that simple  Wink Nice plane for such a small nation (the 747)!

Quoting Hurricane (Reply 35):
I was at Niagara Falls that same day...I wonder if we saw each other. Great report; great pictures and great descriptions. And now I know to bring my own food if I ever find myself flying CO long haul. Thanks!

Thanks, Hurricane. We were in Niagara Falls from about 9 to 11am, so pretty early. There were LOADS of arguably Indian tourists there, really conspicuous.
I don't know about CO's domestic food, but the transatlantic meals really were pretty poor.
 
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Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:47 am

That's a great report with amazing pictures of some of my favorite places in the whole world - namely NYC, Toronto and the whole Southern Ontario region, including the Niagara peninsula.

Never flown CO, although sure would like to! Maybe it's time to start thinking about another trip over the pond to catch a number of American carriers...

Thanks for posting and keep up the good work, I've always enjoyed your reports.
 
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Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:27 pm

Hi Gjunnar!

Interesting story and great pictures! I was at LHR on the same day. I flew HAM-LHR-JFK on BA, so I stayed at T5.

Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
It was a bummer we had to leave on Independence Day, I would have loved to witness the festivities.

So true. We stayed till July 6th and enjoyed the fireworks on the Hudson river on Independence Day. What a great experience!

Quoting Richierich (Reply 4):
Next time, why don't you try BA to JFK (seeing as you seem to like BA a lot; I also think they turn out a consistently good product)

I can confirm that. BA offered a great product for an unbeatable fare.

Quoting Gjunnar (Reply 21):
I was afraid I was gonna piss off some FRA-lovers here (still am) Wink

Well, I love FRA, but that's another story  Smile

Thanks for your effort to write such a long and nice report.

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Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:36 am



Quoting Gjunnar (Reply 36):
We were in Niagara Falls from about 9 to 11am, so pretty early. There were LOADS of arguably Indian tourists there, really conspicuous.

I was there from about 10 to 4 or so, and yes there were lots of Indian tourists. I took, if I remember correctly, 3 separate Indian families' pictures for them. And to think, I had wondered why there were all the signs for Indian Food in the downtown area of the US side...
 
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Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:28 pm

CO serve the worst meals of any transatlantic airline I have travelled on. However they are efficient. I worry that soon all airlines will copy them due to the lousy economy.
 
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Fri Jul 31, 2009 7:24 pm

Nothing can sum up how awesome this trip report was.

The views of New York on departure just made me fall in love with the city a million times over. You can see the university I wish to attend, NYU, in some of them  Smile

The shots of the departing planes at LHR are pretty amazing too. I'm flying on the QF A380 in September, so I'm hoping to get some shots like that too, provided they're on 09R for take off  Smile

Keep 'em coming  Smile

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Sat Aug 01, 2009 8:27 am

Nice report & some pretty excellent pictures, thanks for sharing!

Seems like you enjoyed BA & CO's service, though we got your vibes about CO's food!  Smile

You are right about those CO J seats, pretty bad but they have new ones under development.

Cheers

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Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:26 pm



Quoting StefanPAD (Reply 38):
Hi Gjunnar!

Interesting story and great pictures! I was at LHR on the same day. I flew HAM-LHR-JFK on BA, so I stayed at T5.

Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
It was a bummer we had to leave on Independence Day, I would have loved to witness the festivities.

So true. We stayed till July 6th and enjoyed the fireworks on the Hudson river on Independence Day. What a great experience!

Thanks, Stefan. I seriously hope that I will get to be in the States for a 4th of July in the future. At least we could celebrate Canada Day with fireworks which was really nice (considering that our German national holiday is virtually non-existent with festivities).

Quoting StefanPAD (Reply 38):
Quoting Richierich (Reply 4):
Next time, why don't you try BA to JFK (seeing as you seem to like BA a lot; I also think they turn out a consistently good product)

I can confirm that. BA offered a great product for an unbeatable fare.

I have had really good fares on BA but this time, CO really was the cheapest and believe me - I have checked each and every website for fares  Smile. In the future I will definitely try to fly BA on the longhaul (or even better, VS) if fares are competitive.

Quoting StefanPAD (Reply 38):
Quoting Gjunnar (Reply 21):
I was afraid I was gonna piss off some FRA-lovers here (still am) Wink

Well, I love FRA, but that's another story Smile

Good thing a.nutters are tolerant folks  Wink

Quoting Hurricane (Reply 39):
Quoting Gjunnar (Reply 36):
We were in Niagara Falls from about 9 to 11am, so pretty early. There were LOADS of arguably Indian tourists there, really conspicuous.

I was there from about 10 to 4 or so, and yes there were lots of Indian tourists. I took, if I remember correctly, 3 separate Indian families' pictures for them. And to think, I had wondered why there were all the signs for Indian Food in the downtown area of the US side...

So yeah, we might have actually seen each other. I also was asked to take a picture of an Indian couple  Wink.

Quoting Semsem (Reply 40):
CO serve the worst meals of any transatlantic airline I have travelled on. However they are efficient. I worry that soon all airlines will copy them due to the lousy economy.

Haha, thanks Semsen. We certainly don't hope that airlines will copy CO's food, and honestly, I don't think they will.

Quoting Pawsleykat (Reply 41):
Nothing can sum up how awesome this trip report was.

The views of New York on departure just made me fall in love with the city a million times over. You can see the university I wish to attend, NYU, in some of them Smile

The shots of the departing planes at LHR are pretty amazing too. I'm flying on the QF A380 in September, so I'm hoping to get some shots like that too, provided they're on 09R for take off Smile

Keep 'em coming Smile

JG Yeah sure

Thanks Pawsleykat. I'm really flattered by your kind words.
Good luck with your effort of getting into NYU, I hear it's a great school. I would definitely love to see a trip report by you! Looking forward to some more LHR pictures!

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 42):
Nice report & some pretty excellent pictures, thanks for sharing!

Seems like you enjoyed BA & CO's service, though we got your vibes about CO's food! Smile

You are right about those CO J seats, pretty bad but they have new ones under development.

Cheers

Mark

Thanks, Mark. Haha, I'm still amazed how really everybody's remarking on their - admittedly - bad food offering.
Good to hear CO is investing into their J product; those seats on the 764 really looked outdated.
 
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Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:44 pm

A great read, BRAVO!!!!! Good format, excellent photos.

Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
Definitely one of the best things about Canada:

Yup!  Big grin Nothing terrific here, except for Timmy's.

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Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:56 am



Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
Kids handling the baggage. In Europe I have never seen anyone that young working on the apron…

Those are kids! wow talk about cheap labor
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Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:44 am

Great aerial shots! Just one question - was the ICE journey bought as part of the flight (ie. STR-LHR-EWR-FRA-STR(ZWS), code-shared with the airline, or was it bought separately?

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Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:04 am

That's a really good report right there. Thanks for posting.
 
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Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:16 pm



Quoting YYZRWY23 (Reply 44):
A great read, BRAVO!!!!! Good format, excellent photos.

Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
Definitely one of the best things about Canada:

Yup! Big grin Nothing terrific here, except for Timmy's.

Jason

Thanks Jason. There's A LOT of great things about Canada, one of them definitely is Timmy!

Quoting ThegreatRDU (Reply 45):
Quoting Gjunnar (Thread starter):
Kids handling the baggage. In Europe I have never seen anyone that young working on the apron…

Those are kids! wow talk about cheap labor

Thanks, ThegreatRDU. Probably a summer job...good money for the kids, but not enough for a head of a family.

Quoting Signol (Reply 46):
Great aerial shots! Just one question - was the ICE journey bought as part of the flight (ie. STR-LHR-EWR-FRA-STR(ZWS), code-shared with the airline, or was it bought separately?

signol

Thanks, Signol. The train ride was part of the itinerary bought. I had a Lufthansa ticket for that last segment. I could have taken the plane but I would have arrived 2h later and it would have cost ~30EUR more. There are still 6 daily flights on STR-FRA (distance 200k, actual flying time ~25min) but in the long run I think the trains are supposed to replace the flights (as they have on CGN-FRA).

Quoting MilesDependent (Reply 47):
That's a really good report right there. Thanks for posting.

Thanks, MilesDependent! I appreciate it.

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