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KLM/KQ AMS-NBO Kenya + Safari (lots Of Pics!)

Fri Sep 04, 2009 5:23 pm

 
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This trip report will be pictures mostly, since I have little time to write. Last week I took my mother on a safari trip in Kenya. We flew AMS-NBO-AMS with KL and KQ (on KL metal) and Wilson to Masai Mara on Kenya Air.
 
AMS-NBO
August 25th 2009
KLM B777-200
Seats: Row 13 and 14 (low loads)

 
This was my first Y flight in a long time and I was not looking forward to it. I had a broken toe (almost healed but still painful) and had to use a crutch as well as be the tour guide and porter for my 71 year old mother. It all turned out to be not even half as bad as I anticipated. I chose a day flight so not to be inconvenienced too much. We arrived at AMS in due time to enjoy the lounge for a bit and made it to the gate.





The aircraft had a load factor of around 50% in Y and 20% in C. I tried for a courtesy upgrade but like always got nowhere with KLM. Still bugs me that in 5+ years of FB Gold I never received an upgrade even once and in 1 year of BAEC Gold I got upgraded 3 times already. Still, I wasn’t entitled to one since I had a deeply discounted M fare.


 
Not having been in the back section of an airplane for a long time I must say that I was pleasantly surprised. It looked pretty nice, no doubt helped by the many empty seats. I found it quite fun to travel in economy again. The crew was great and friendly as always. On board I got some recognition of my status and was approached by one of the crew that they would block two rows for us to change to after take off.

My original seat


My new seat row


Some more cabin shots




My view.


My 'normal' cabin...


The flight was pretty uneventful and boring as usual. Unfortunately flying is becoming very normal for me and I do not get the buzz out of it that I used to get. I watched some movies and read some magazines.

KLM has a great AVOD


Along the route we had some great views.


Along the route we had some mediocre food.


The flight lasted about 8:30 hours and soon we were approaching NBO. Unfortunately day had turned to night.

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Something I like about KLM is that the turn off the seatbelt signs early and back on late. They waited until 5 minutes before landing to turn them on.





We arrived in NBO around 7pm and proceeded directly to immigration. We heard some horror stories about the airport and the visa procedure but in fact it was a breeze. It took about 30 minutes in total and everybody was very friendly and relaxed. One tip: if you see a line at the first immigration point proceed to the second one. It is mostly empty.

We were met by our driver and taken to the Norfolk hotel. This was a very good choice. We had a great dinner and went to sleep early.





The next day we flew from Wilson Airport to Masai Mara. We took the afternoon flight which was a direct one, taking about 45 minutes. Wilson airport is a strange mix of small airlines and an aircraft cemetery.

The waiting room


Some aircraft
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We had to wait for about half an hour before our flight was called. We walked to a Twin Otter together with one other passenger. Very private flight. The pilot told us it might be a bit bumpy but in the end it wasn't that bad. You do feel the turbulence more intensely (of course) and I can see how people find it scary. Especially when the wind blows the aircraft sideways. I loved it!

The cabin


The safety card


The views were fantastic. Especially the Rift Valley.




The landing in a Twin Otter is very spectacular. You more or less dive to the runway. It was fun to see cows getting out of the way of the rolling plane...



At the airstrip we were met by the staff of the hotel


We stayed at the Fairmont Mara Safari Club (MSC) which was an excellent choice. We got a very good rate thanks to a promotion. The rooms (rather tents) were very luxurious and were lacking things like TV's, wireless, etc. I was very happy about that!







We stayed at the hotel for 5 days so we could combine game drives with relaxation. I am not the 'continuously running around' type. We did a lot of drives and tried for a balloon safari. Unfortunately there was too much wind for that. Below you find a selection of the pictures I took.















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Yours truly


We also visited a Masai village (very touristy!)










It had been a great 5 days. Like always, also this trip has to come to an end.



We left for Wilson airport with a Twin Otter again. This time we were the first stop in a series of 4. That was good since we basically did an air safari. The hops between the airstrips took no more than 8 minutes each and they fly relatively low.

Our plane arriving












A glance in the cockpit. Interesting frequency for such a little plane...  Smile




After the 4 stops we flew for around 45 minutes to Wilson where we dove to the runway once again.







A look at the terminal from the runway


The terminal from the road


Here is where you collect your luggage: street side!


We overnighted in the Norfolk again and got a club room this time.


NBO=AMS
September 3rd 2009
KLM MD-11 (Leased by KQ)
Seats: 25JK


The next day we left for the airport at 6 am for the 8:40 flight. We were told to be early but in the end there was no need at all. Traffic was absent and getting through customs was quicker than at AMS. We did have carry on only so maybe that makes a difference but the airport looked and felt organized.

We made our way to the lounge. KQ uses two. The Simba lounge on the ground floor for business class pax only and a second lounge on the first floor that is accessible to elite pax when traveling in economy. The lounge does not look like much but it actually not that bad with ok food and drinks.

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They made a boarding call very early and since I was half asleep I reacted and went to the gate. One whole hour too soon I might add.

Our plane (on semi wet-lease to KQ – cabin crew is KQ, flight crew is KL)


The waiting area


The boarding process went rather organized and smoothly. We found our seats and settled in for a long 8 hours in whY. The flight was about 95% full this time. The KQ crew came across as very uninterested and unprofessional.

The MD-11 Cabin






The most surprising thing was that the crew were actively seat shifting pax during taxiing. It later turned out to be KQ staff being upgraded to C about 1 minute before take off. I also noticed that they did not inspect the cabin before take off and left pax with the seat reclined. That lousy attitude would continue during the flight.









Take off in an MD-11 is always nice. Pretty soon after take off they called for the blind to be closed. I personally like that but on a day flight I don't mind people keeping them open. Almost everyone complied however and when pax opened them the fellow pax intervened quite quickly.





Catering out of NBO was very poor. I did not take a picture of breakfast because I was too stumped by the low quality. The crew almost threw you the tray and looked annoyed when you asked anything. They announced there would be self service bars in the aisles (water and juice only!) and that was it. They went to the back galley and stayed there until lunch. When I went back there they acted really annoyed and when I asked if I could take a picture of them they became unfriendly. I wonder why...  Smile

Lunch


We had some nice clouds coming into AMS

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Now this you might not believe. I still can't believe it actually happened. During descent several pax were making phone calls on their cell phones. Yes, you read it right. The crew was still walking around and did nothing. Nada. Zilch. They did see the people doing it, butt said noting. Also once again no seatbelt inspection and lots of pax (including myself) left their seat reclined. Bad, bad, bad job KQ. I will take KLM crew over KQ's any day.

Luckily we made it home safely.
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I hope you enjoyed this pictures mostly TR. I did not have much time to prepare it since I am leaving for DXB on Sunday. As always feedback and comments are greatly appreciated.
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Fri Sep 04, 2009 5:47 pm

Some additional pics:

















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Too much, I know...  Smile
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Fri Sep 04, 2009 5:58 pm

Hello Henk, not too much at all! The KL Y isn't that bad indeed, i.e. when your flying on any wibo except the 744. (Though even they are being converted) I love the pictures of the twotter flights, the landing picture really illustrates the dirt-strip operations!

Thanks for sharing and regards,

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Fri Sep 04, 2009 6:03 pm

Fantastic. I really enjoyed looking at the beautiful pictures. I hear Sarengeti, Ngorongo nearby is also great.
 
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Fri Sep 04, 2009 7:13 pm

How nice off you too take your mother on holiday, she is a lucky mother. Magnificent photo's, I have been on safari in South Africa and had the pleasure of seeing it myself. Looks like I have to plan a vacation to Kenya (this is a good excuse), I 'll book KL instead of KQ, a cabin crew can make or break an experience in my opinion.
 
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Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:10 pm

Fantastic photos, sir. They are almost equal to your cloud-scape shots on the DPS to HKG sector. Thanks for sharing.  Smile
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Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:00 pm

good report! loved the pics...... wilson airport still the same nothing new!
 
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Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:12 pm

Hi again. Something different from you, behind the curtain. Didn't expect that one soon, but nicely reported  Wink
Your safari pictures are outstanding. You've seen great animal action! I have the feeling that you must have been very lucky to catch all of this? Or is this just a 'normal score' on such tours?
I know about that MD11 lease-out to KQ. When the crew lacks the safety procedures, I wonder if KLM is doing the right thing with their aircraft. Although I've noticed similar experiences on my MD11 flight with former RG. After landing on 18R in AMS, passengers just stood up and walked to the exit, when still taxiing ... Not one of the crew said anything about it! Just unbelievable, and such crew should receive a oneway ticket to their homes, and not come back in service with the company. I thought to rate KQ higher, but I know really doubt it. It seems safety is not priority one with KQ ...

Thanks, and hope to read more of your stories in the future!

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Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:04 pm

Great TR. I really enjoyed it. KL's MD's are in much better shape than I tought. Awesome photos!
 
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Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:27 am

Really great pics on Masai Mara. That is one part of the world I still have yet to visit.
I know u would have loved courtesy upgrade on KL. It depends on the airline. When I was at AA we gave our most elite frequent fliers (Executive Platinum, Platinum with 2 million miles) upgrade certificates subject to availability. And on an oversold flight if you are elite you might find yourself upgraded to the next class of service.
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Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:41 am

Thanks for this interesting TR. Such a shame about the KQ crew and pretty surprising really!

Great photos of the safari!
 
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Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:42 am

Thanks for the replies and the compliments!

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 2):
the landing picture really illustrates the dirt-strip operations!

If you haven't experienced it you will not believe how steeply they dive to the strips. The first time I was taken by surprise. It really is a 45 degree dive almost.

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 2):
I hear Sarengeti, Ngorongo nearby is also great

I have truly fallen in love with this part of the world and these two are high on my list as well.

Quoting BartBus (Reply 4):
How nice off you too take your mother on holiday, she is a lucky mother

It was a 'guilt trip'.   I am taking a 6 months sabbatical next year (doing a RTW) and she is very worried about that. Creating some good memories now helps to ease her anxiety.

Quoting TravellerPlus (Reply 5):
Fantastic photos, sir

Thank you! It is almost hard not to take amazing pictures though since the light and the subjects are fantastic. Best light in the world.

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 7):
Or is this just a 'normal score' on such tours?

In a way 'yes' this is quite normal for the season we were in (Aug/Oct is the best time to visit) and the number of animals is much, much higher than in SA. I did bring 2 SLR's with a 70-200 and a 170-500 lens. You do need at least one 400mm and with a nice aperture. Mine had 6.3 and that is even too little. 5.8 or 4.0 would be better. Active vibration reduction is a must (mine did not have that either) so some pictures are not half as sharp as I would want them.

Quoting Jambo (Reply 6):
wilson airport still the same

It is a very strange place... So many 'dead' aircraft piled up around the place. Heaven for a small aircraft enthusiast though! I would love to have free reign of the place with a camera...

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 7):
Thanks, and hope to read more of your stories in the future!

Next trip Dubai but that is too boring to take serious camera equipment. After that you will have to wait until January for my sabbatical to begin.

Quoting Triple7man (Reply 9):
That is one part of the world I still have yet to visit

I was hesitant about Africa too. After visiting Ghana, SA, MRU and Kenya I can only say: GO GO GO! (But skip MRU).

Quoting Triple7man (Reply 9):
When I was at AA

Yes, but the US Domestic market is organized rather differently. EU carriers are not so quick to upgrade.

Quoting Tk747 (Reply 10):
Such a shame about the KQ crew and pretty surprising really!

I was surprised also since I heard great stories. I was actually looking forward to flying with them. Maybe I am just too partial to KL crew or maybe I have been spoiled too much in J and F.

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Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:07 am



Quoting Henkybaby (Thread starter):
When I went back there they acted really annoyed and when I asked if I could take a picture of them they became unfriendly. I wonder why...

Ahaha....great move :P. I suspect that their picture would have made the other animals shown look like docile and tame pets.

Great TR-shame about the KQ experience-they most certainly aren't the pride of Africa. But the pictures are lovely-good enough for National Geopgraphic. I really must go to Africa and do a safari soon. Is 5 days enough?

Thanks for sharing Big grin
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Quoting Directorguy (Reply 12):
Is 5 days enough?

In my experience: yes. 3 days per park would do too.

However if you have the chance to visit more than one park I would go for it. Believe it or not, there is a sort of 'safari fatigue' that sets in after seeing the umpteenth lion. A change of location is then in order or you can just call it a day.
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Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:05 pm

Great TR! I especially like your safari pictures. It is just like a report of The National Geographic I think you should sell those pictures to the park proprietor.

Quoting Henkybaby (Thread starter):
My view.

The old man does not look really amused. Perhaps envy of your "J"seat?  Silly

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Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:18 pm

Really nice TR. I like the photo of landing the Twotter.

I thought KQ offered a better service than this. This is a shame.

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Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:21 pm

Wow great TR. Loved the pics, i havent been on a twin in ages, makes me want to go back to do a Safari...thanks!

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Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:58 pm

So much negativity about KQ staff, wonder if you are a little biased. You didn't like KQ crew nor the catering. Your first remark about KQ crew is they were unprofessional; in what sense? This is before the comment you made about shifting paxs during taxiing, just curious.
 
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Quoting PRAirbus (Reply 17):
So much negativity about KQ staff, wonder if you are a little biased. You didn't like KQ crew nor the catering. Your first remark about KQ crew is they were unprofessional; in what sense? This is before the comment you made about shifting paxs during taxiing, just curious.

What on earth are you implying?

I do not write my reports (nor does my mind work) linear so my unprofessional remark (the conclusion) came before the reasons for reaching it. Unless you find it normal that no drinks services are done, pax are shifted while taxiing, people are allowed to leave their seat reclined and make phone calls during landing I do not see how I can qualify their behavior as anything but unprofessional.

So I would appreciate an apology for your ridiculous insinuation that I would be biased for whatever reason, sir.
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Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:11 am

Fantastic pictures! Thank you for sharing.
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Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:32 am

Verry nice report. reminds me of the time i was there a few years ago.

great job man  Wink
 
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Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:31 am

I was recently reminded that the KQ staff had been on strike not that long ago (because of lay offs) and labor disputes may have been the reason for their less than stellar performance. It is still no excuse for compromising safety but at least it may explain how reality was so far removed from expectation. I also expected KQ to deliver excellent service.
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Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:16 pm

Thanks for sharing this report Henkybaby! Nice pics as well, looking forward to seeing more reports from you.

(off topic)
BTW, what did you do on FT to get banned?
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Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:10 pm

Hi Henkybaby,

Great report and pictures, especially the pictures, really excellent, especially of the wildlife.

Quoting Henkybaby (Thread starter):
I tried for a courtesy upgrade but like always got nowhere with KLM. Still bugs me that in 5+ years of FB Gold I never received an upgrade even once and in 1 year of BAEC Gold I got upgraded 3 times already.

- Fully, BA have never upgraded me but IB have!

Quoting Henkybaby (Thread starter):
During descent several pax were making phone calls on their cell phones. Yes, you read it right. The crew was still walking around and did nothing. Nada. Zilch. They did see the people doing it, butt said noting

- This is just amazing, never seen or heard of this before!

I've always had the impression KQ were a really good airline, the service and actions of this crew seem to say something different!

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Quoting AJO (Reply 22):
BTW, what did you do on FT to get banned?

I openly criticized the moderation of the Flying Blue part of the forum. Then I had the audacity to ask them to explain their decision. No prizes for guessing they never had the courtesy to reply. Remember, FT is not a democracy at all.

I wonder if this will get me banned again...  Smile
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Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:01 pm

Good report, good pics.

Quoting Henkybaby (Reply 11):
I was hesitant about Africa too. After visiting Ghana, SA, MRU and Kenya I can only say: GO GO GO! (But skip MRU).

What's wrong with Mauritius? On your list there are lesser destinations.

Quoting Vandenheuvel (Reply 15):
I thought KQ offered a better service than this. This is a shame.

Unfortunately, KQ has been going down hill for some time. Their peak, in my opinion, was around 2002, when service was a priority. I blame management, particularly top management, which does not seem to understand the airline business, or if it does, does not manage. Staff quality has plummetted, although there are still great staff among them.
 
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Quoting 787KQ (Reply 25):
What's wrong with Mauritius? On your list there are lesser destinations.

Me and MRU just did not click. I found the hotels to be poor for the price and too much oriented on the one-time honeymoon guests (so not focused on creating repeat customers). It was overpriced and relatively boring. I will take Asia anytime.
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Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:20 pm

Forget the flights: your photos are absolutely spectacular. This is certainly the most strikingly beautiful TR I've seen on these forums. Please keep snapping away as you are clearly a very talented photographer. Breathtaking!

Quoting Henkybaby (Thread starter):
Not having been in the back section of an airplane for a long time I must say that I was pleasantly surprised. It looked pretty nice, no doubt helped by the many empty seats. I found it quite fun to travel in economy again

I chuckled at this and I admire your optimism. Perhaps there is hope! Oh and I have to confess I find KLM's Y carpet quite appealing...oops.
 
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Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:58 am

excellent trip report

shame about the service of the KQ staff on the return trip. On my return flight, also on an MD 11 with KQ crew, i saw a very dedicated and efficent team. Maybe the recent strike affected their work.
 
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Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:55 am

Fantastic TR.
Shame about the KQ crew.....I was under the impression that KQ were top notch in Africa, which according to yoor experience it's far ' very far from this.
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Sun Sep 20, 2009 6:22 am



Quoting Henkybaby (Thread starter):
Take off in an MD-11 is always nice. Pretty soon after take off they called for the blind to be closed. I personally like that but on a day flight I don't mind people keeping them open. Almost everyone complied however and when pax opened them the fellow pax intervened quite quickly.

I simply hate that!  mad 
The thing I like to do the most on flight is to stick my head in the window and watching the view for most of the flight, it's way more interesting from the airline's entertainment. Execpt on night flights that go over the sea or over un-populated areas, there is always some view to see, and forcing me to close the shade can destroy for me the hole flight. I can't understand why they told you to do so on day flight with PTV. From Israel, on day flights no one ask to close the shades (even on transatlantic flights) but on night flights going back to Israel they do, and its very annoying.

Thank you for this report, great photos. You were lucky to fly the MD-11 too, they are getting rare this days.
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Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:18 am

Stunning pictures you took in the Massai Mara NP !
Let my desire grow to go back to that place again some time in the future - my last visit was more than 10 years ago ...
-HT

EDIT: Which type of vehicles were used for the game drives ? Open Land Rovers / Range Rovers or japanese Minibusses with a single central opening in the roof ? (I am accustomed to the former type usually with 3 passengers only ...)
-HT

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Sun Sep 20, 2009 12:04 pm

Thanks for the compliments on the pictures.

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 30):
I simply hate that!

I actually don't. I prefer a more relaxed atmosphere on a flight and that is more easily achieved with the blinds closed. No point in repeating this heated debate though...  Smile

Quoting HT (Reply 31):
Which type of vehicles were used for the game drives ?

They used 2 types of LandCruiser. One with an open roof only and one completely open. Pretty new vehicles too.
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RE: KLM/KQ AMS-NBO Kenya + Safari (lots Of Pics!)

Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:44 pm

Amazing!
The animals are beautiful.

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RE: KLM/KQ AMS-NBO Kenya + Safari (lots Of Pics!)

Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:04 pm



Quoting Henkybaby (Reply 32):
They used 2 types of LandCruiser. One with an open roof only and one completely open. Pretty new vehicles too.

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Back then, my party (father and older sister) and I always made fun about those unlucky souls who had to fight to stand in the center opening of their mini busses and about the fact that they couldn't reach those places that required 4WD (usually when passing fords).

On our first Safari (in Massai Mara) we just were lucky that we had those Rovers locally.
When we returned 2 years later, we knew what we had to look into and ask the travel agent for ... Was fairly difficult to find an agency with such a tour but it was managed in the end.
Also, we preferred to fly to Kenya and stay on the beach for 2 weeks and then decide on the spot which park to visit, based on recent weather: our primary selection of "Amboseli NP" had become a no-no after extensive rain earlier, so we opted to visit Tsavo West and East on some tour labelled "Exclusive" which it really was.
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RE: KLM/KQ AMS-NBO Kenya + Safari (lots Of Pics!)

Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:29 pm

Awesome trip report! I love the wildlife photography!
 
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RE: KLM/KQ AMS-NBO Kenya + Safari (lots Of Pics!)

Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:51 pm

Thanks for the interesting trip report.

Quoting Henkybaby (Thread starter):
Wilson airport is a strange mix of small airlines and an aircraft cemetery.

Do you happen to know the distance between Wilson and NBO airport?

From Wilson Airport to Mara airstrip what are the airlines that operate this segment? I know reports that Safari Air is the best, with another option being the one you reported (Air Kenya). Is Air Kenya owned by KQ?

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RE: KLM/KQ AMS-NBO Kenya + Safari (lots Of Pics!)

Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:11 pm

Thanks for the wonderful trip report. Really makes me want to visit Kenya... but then again, I've always wanted to visit Kenya.

Really sorry to hear about the KQ crew. Like many others have thought, I was always under the impression that KQ is one of the better airlines in Africa, and their crew would be alright. But then again, as much as first impressions are important, maybe this is just a one-time thing and KQ crew isn't normally like this.

Oh, how was the airport at NBO? I've always wondered.
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