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Rwandair And Skyteam Airlines To Scotland

Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:10 pm

Hello everybody,

this is the return trip of Rwandese vacations where you can read the report here "Klm and Kenya Airways to Rwanda"


1 - Summary of the Journey

Date: 31/03/09
Route: KGL-NBO-AMS-EDI
Duration (with transit): 10H40 ( 15h40)
Airlines Boarded: Rwandair Express, Kenya Airways, KLM Cityhopper
Travel class: economy
Highlight: Rwandair express and KQ 116

After a pure moment in the, recent, peaceful Rwanda. it was time to go home in Scotland. I use to fly between NBO and europe with Skyteam and mostly with KLM and overnight, but it was time to change and finally try the KQ's day route KQ116





2 - INBOUND TRIP

I decided to do not sleep during the last evening, too afraid to miss the flight, and to get a better rest on the long segment.

Arrived at the airport, around 1h30 am, the hall was as busy as the day, with is quite surprising for the place.

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http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab52/kigalilongwe/CIMG1554.jpg Departure and Arrival hall

At Kigali Airport, The Security checks is before the check-in, which mean once you are in you can not go out, is there is anymore other place in this world similar?

The check-in took age, more than 30min, as the agent said i've been booked on the 13h45 flight (KQ473),she added if i wouldn't mind to be rerouted on this flight!!! that was surprising because obviously the 8h40 morning connection at Nairobi could not be made...

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After a quick stop, and a quick chat at the CIP business lounge totally deserted (because of the time) an agent called me as the last passenger to embark in a bus to the plane.
the aircraft painted on Rwandair express colours, but wearing the kenyian flag and registration (Jetkink), piloted by %u201Cmuzungu%u201D, codeshared with an other kenyan airline (KQ) and animated with a mixed Rwandan and Kenyan cabin crew (Jetlink and Rwandair) appeared fantastic.

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Rwanda Airport Autorities

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Business Class lounge

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Comfortable seat, and quiet night for her.

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An other Cargo visitor, any idea about who is it?





Flight N°: WB107
journey: KGL-NBO the the 31/03/09
Plane:CRJ200ER registration 5Y-JLE
scheduled departure time: 4H00 (GMT+2)
Duration: 1H25
Seat: 5A
rating: ☻☻☻☻☺

Rwandair has been used for the way back home, and to be honest, the early morning flight are not a real joy for me, but i've experienced the home's new airline, especially an african one.

It should have been originally a Kenya Air flight, KQ479 with a 738, but as the local airline ( Rwandair expresss) has to operated this flight, it has been upgraded in an unsual discovery.
The WB107, operated in a CRJ200ER by Jetlink, was a great opportunity to judge the quality of the national carrier of Rwanda since they left the B737 from Air Namibia for maintenance disagreement in 2008.

I was really happy to fly with this airline, because the opportunity may not come back in the future. Rwandair Express leases 2 aircrafts ( a Dash 800 and a CRJ200) and i flew on half on it lol. The domestic network is composed of 2 services on the shores of the Lake Kivu, including the latest service to Gisenyi in the north pf the country which is new from the 15th of march (see the advertising at Kigali airport in the 1st trip report) and flights are operated with the Dash 800. the international network links Kigali hub to JNB, Entebbe, NBO, Kilimandjaro and Bujumbura using the CRJ.


The flight was scheduled at 4H00 am but started taxiing at 4H25 and took off runway 10 at 4H35.
with a nice cabin crew half kenyan half rwandan, a correct and occidental breakfast, and clouds free flight, it was the best remenber to finish a family holidays in Rwanda.

The Plane landed on runway 6 at Nairobi around 6H04 and disembark passenger around 6H25.

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Kenyan and Rwandese flags

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The Copilot

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50% of load factor

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the generous breakfast served by Rwandair

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Our cabin crew today: Natasha (rwandair) and Irene (Jetlink) and Benson (but not on the picture)

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Flying over Serengetti before the descent to Nairobi

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Canadair CRJ200LR 5Y-JLE

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WB and its regionals partners.

The problem encountered at Kigali followed me at NBO, where the Kenyan Air agent told me that “my booking concern the KLM evening flight” (not really my favourite!!!). The queue at the transit desk started to become bigger when he told me to come back in half an hours for and alternative choice. Exactly the time for me to enjoy a bigger breakfast and a cup of tea in the “African style” Premier Lounge of Nairobi.

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Meridian Airline, Kenya Airways, and Delta connection

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A rare visitor at JKIA

Like a huge surprise he managed to find a seat on the original KQ116 flight and the following to amsterdam.

Flight N°: KQ116
journey: NBO-AMS the the 31/03/09
Plane:B777-200ER with registration 5Y-KQT
Scheduled departure time: 8H40 local time(GMT+3)
Duration: 8H50
Seat: 36A
rating:☻☻☻☻☻

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the face to face

For this last day, exclusively spent in the plane, the long haul part was absolutely amazing. Nice weather empty plane, great cabin crew, no late or lost luggage, great movies on the IFE ...etc

Most of the trip back home in Europe force me to fly with KLM during the evening with an overcrowded and Old B747, with untasty food and Sh...t collective IFE. For this time, thanks to the Cute Gemma L at the Edinburgh agency, she managed to gather outbound and inbound journey with KQ. Even if the previous earlier flight was really indegestive to catch because of the jetlagged and the bad hours, this one was my Best flight during this Rwanda 2009 trip.

Of all my experiences in NBO i've noticed that KQ always start bording people according to a colour sticker (from back to front???) and not by statut like europe (1st biz, elite...)
As i described before the loaded factor was about 20-25% in economy which means free seating anywhere. (it's really unprofitable for KQ and sad for all the tourist who have to squeeze in the KL evening flight but...this is an other story).

The huge Bird left on time from the tarmac of NBO, followed by the 738NG KQ452 to Moroni via Dzaoudzi, then shortly after tooking off they started serving breakfast. I choose this time to listen some new song RNB, before finishing my “night” up to Khartoum and across the Nile, in the opposite to the outbound flight, i selected a movie after a quick photo sequence. As the good appointed us it was ideally perfect to catch few pictures of the africa.

Usually, the plane acrosses over Kharthoum, Benghazi in Libya, Malta, Venice, then Alps and Germany, but today, It was impossible to view Corsica, France and and Geneva Lake, ( the reason i choose the seat) as for unknown reason, we flew over Egypt the Creta, Croatia Austria, and Germany, I was a wee bit disapointed but the unusual approch and landing on Runway 27 allowed a nice overview of south 'Dam as the the Arena Stadium.

Passengers who applaud a successful landing, are always funny, but in this case it was a group of Kenyan artists and performers coming in Holland for a 3 weeks show, and only few “muzungu” or wazungu were on board. That was an African magic.

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in need of Swahili lesson?

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1 Monarch is rare, what about 2, it's improbable!!!

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The Antonov AN-12B UR-CGV

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Breakfast

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Low load factor, maybe 35 % in economy

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Nile River

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Around Kharthoum

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Good bye Egypt and Africa

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The cap is approx 320°

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It's lunch time

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Amsterdam Arena

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I've already flown onboard the "City of Tokyo" for a trip...NBO-AMS, funny coincidence

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A quick stop at the lounge

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Flight N°: KL1289
journey: AMS-EDI the 31/03/09
aircraft: Fokker 100 with registration PH-OFB
scheduled departure time: 18H10
Duration: 1H25
Seat: 5A
rating: ☻☻☻☺☺


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this small fokker represent an huge sensation for 2 reasons:
- the buzzing noise can be heared by the passengers at the rear of the plane.
secondly because before boarding in AMS we have to take a bus to travel far around B pier (or gate ) is always a good thing for visiting as KLM employees on stage and backstage of Schiphol airport, the “second” zone destination can be found here. For the fisrt time the aircraft had to wait more than 15min on the taxiway for a clearance for parking few pics have been made of some airlines operating at EDI.


As i've checked-in on WB flight (with no business class), i was not entitled of the priority tag for Elite plus and Business, my luggage arrived among the last, but lucky that the flight AMS-EDI was not full.

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not really happy today

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Nice KLM's retro-special scheme

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B747 from Surinam Air and B757 (?) from Air Force one

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Porth of Leith before intercepting the ILS runway 24

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Edinburgh Airport

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Welcome back home




I hope you've enjoy this, maybe, out of date trip report. An another one, more up to date, is coming very soon on the Kenya Airways London route KQ101/102.

Seen you soon for more African adventures!!!

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Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:34 pm

I really enjoyed reading your TR. Well done!
 
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Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:47 am

Thanks so much for this trip report! Its always great to see some amazing and unique reports such as this one!
 
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Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:06 am



Quoting Eastafspot (Thread starter):
At Kigali Airport, The Security checks is before the check-in, which mean once you are in you can not go out, is there is anymore other place in this world similar?

For me, I only experienced this in IST

Quoting Eastafspot (Thread starter):
Low load factor, maybe 35 % in economy

Why did you cross their faces on this one but not in the Rwanadair CRJ?
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RE: Rwandair And Skyteam Airlines To Scotland

Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:22 am

Friendly cabin crew there  Smile
 
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Fri Dec 11, 2009 1:24 am

A truly refreshing report..Nice to see a positive and detailed review on your trip to Africa..
The cabin crew are very attractive..
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RE: Rwandair And Skyteam Airlines To Scotland

Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:07 am

Where do they fit 3 FA's on a CRJ? I think there is only one (maybe two?) jumpseats.

Good report BTW
 
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Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:43 am

Nice report, but you know what, it wouldn't surprise me if those Monarch flights were RAF Troop flights going to EDI as well  Wink
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RE: Rwandair And Skyteam Airlines To Scotland

Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:41 pm

Nice report! Always love the African ones.

Quoting Eastafspot (Thread starter):
is there is anymore other place in this world similar?

Yes, it's somewhat common, especially in the developing world.

Quoting Eastafspot (Thread starter):
B757 (?) from Air Force one

Technically it is just the US Government. Air Force One is only then the President is on board, and he would always fly a 747 for long trips like those (and really almost any trip). The 757 is often the plane for the Vice President, which would make it Air Force Two, but other people use it too.
 
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Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:50 pm

Nice report and pictures, enjoyed, made a nice change from our usual LX/SQ etc.

The lunch meal looked quite decent.

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Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:55 pm



Quoting Gkirk (Reply 7):
it wouldn't surprise me if those Monarch flights were RAF Troop flights going to EDI

Well, you're almost right except for the destination as i've heard it was for carrying RAF troop

Quoting SW733 (Reply 8):
The 757 is often the plane for the Vice President, which would make it Air Force Two

that's much clear for me
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Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:54 pm

Thanks for this interesting TR, for sure an interesting leg from KGL-NBO

However i wouldn't be too happy if i would be photographed from the front.

Quoting Eastafspot (Thread starter):
At Kigali Airport, The Security checks is before the check-in, which mean once you are in you can not go out, is there is anymore other place in this world similar?

Yeah also at LED terminal 1 (mostly used for domestic and charter flights).

Quoting Eastafspot (Thread starter):
B747 from Surinam Air and B757 (?) from Air Force one

That was the plane used by Ms. Clinton for the Afghanistan summit
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RE: Rwandair And Skyteam Airlines To Scotland

Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:03 pm

Didn't the CRJ crash into a concrete wall recently in Kigali??
 
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Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:37 pm



Quoting Eastafspot (Reply 10):
Well, you're almost right except for the destination as i've heard it was for carrying RAF troop

Possibly to Akrotiri then? Quite a number of trooping flights from Nairobi have flown to EDI using airlines such as Monarch, Air Caraibes, and FlyGlobespan.
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Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:47 pm



Quoting Eastafspot (Thread starter):
A rare visitor at JKIA



Quoting Eastafspot (Thread starter):
1 Monarch is rare, what about 2, it's improbable!!!

Nope, not true at all!

After ASA-African Safari Airways and the (in)famous travel agent African Safari Club collapsed, a "new" company was founded.

This new company is offering flights from Manchester, Gatwick and Basle to Mombasa. The A321 might be a rare sight, but is is not! The A321 is doing a flight pattern Gatwick-Luxor-Mombasa (like the A330 from MAN), for special "offers" 1week Nile Cruise plus (one week later) 1 week Kenya Beach & Safri!
 
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Sat Dec 12, 2009 3:07 pm



Quoting AsoRock (Reply 12):
Didn't the CRJ crash into a concrete wall recently in Kigali??

They have 3, 1 CR1 and 2 CR2s the one that crashed into the VIP terminal was the sole CR1, 5Y-JLD....eastafspot flew on 5Y-JLE...
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RE: Rwandair And Skyteam Airlines To Scotland

Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:26 pm

Great report about a very rare carrier! Good to get an impression of KGL, too!

Interesting to see the CRJ is still equipped with the ex-Lufthansa Cityline seats.

Quoting Eastafspot (Thread starter):
Rwandair Express leases 2 aircrafts ( a Dash 800 and a CRJ200) and i flew on half on it lol.

The fleet consists of two CRJ200s now.


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Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:48 pm



Quoting USFlyer MSP (Reply 6):
Where do they fit 3 FA's on a CRJ?

Well, no idea, but i've noticed few time, with AF in Avro RJ, some cabin crew (in uniform) sitted on the first row, maybe they were not on duty...

Quoting Debonair (Reply 14):

This new company is offering flights from Manchester, Gatwick and Basle to Mombasa

For this reason it's uncommon to see Monarch at Nairobi  Wink

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 16):

The fleet consists of two CRJ200s now

During the trip the fleet was composed of 2 A/Cs, before the crash, it was 3, and now, after the contrat suspension with Jetlink, WB leases a Dash 8-102 to Air Services, an will receive its own aircraft an CRJ200 before Christmas...  santahat 
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RE: Rwandair And Skyteam Airlines To Scotland

Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:41 pm



Quoting Gkirk (Reply 13):
Quoting Eastafspot (Reply 10):
Well, you're almost right except for the destination as i've heard it was for carrying RAF troop

Possibly to Akrotiri then? Quite a number of trooping flights from Nairobi have flown to EDI using airlines such as Monarch, Air Caraibes, and FlyGlobespan.

Having checked today, the A321 had arrived from Edinburgh via Luxor, the A330 had arrived from Edinburgh and was departing to Brize Norton. That should end the speculation!
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