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Iran Air IR 811: 08/DEC/09: BOM-IKA: J Cabin

Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:50 am

Feedback always appreciated.

Trip Report: 090
Flight Category: J-IMR (See Report End)
Date: 8 Dec-09 (See Report End)
SDT/SAT/Dur/Delay: 0930/1155/04:25 hrs
Flight: Iran Air 811, 1739 miles
Routing: BOM-IKA
Aircraft: 74L
Seat: Business “Homa” Class, 5A

I > Background:
I had never flown the 747SP. With Syrian having retired their fleet (more or less) from trips to Europe, I thought my days of flying the beautiful aircraft had disappeared. While playing with a GDS at a client site in Astana, I noticed that Iran Air plies their 74L twice weekly to BOM. Immediately, my head started spinning with the desire to fly the aircraft. I HAD TO DO IT! Now, there were the logical challenges. While I maintained several passports, I only had my Liechtenstein one with me … and I could not afford any Iranian stamps with my love being an Israeli. Moreover, I had a business meeting in Addis Ababa.

After working through several permutations and combinations (let me tell you, non-daily flights are such a pain logistically), I decided to have the agent in Astana route me on Air Astana (via Almaty) to Delhi. There, I got on a Jet Airways flight to Bombay and checked-in at the ITC Maratha near the airport to find an agent willing to ticket me last minute on IR.

UK_Dispatcher had the last 74L report on the legendary CCS-DAM-IKA routing. This can be read at Iran Air B747SP Transatlantic DAM-CCS [+pics/vids] (by UK_Dispatcher Aug 24 2007 in Trip Reports). Now, this is going to be the only 3rd report for IR’s 74L, the first on BOM-IKA, and definitely the only Iran Air J class report … and I think the only J class 74L report.

II > Pre-Flight:

a) Before Airport:
Iran Air, or Airline of the Islamic Republic of Iran is the flag carrier airline of Iran, operating services to 20 scheduled and 5 charter destinations. The cargo fleet operates services to 35 international and 25 domestic destinations. Its main base is the Tehran Imam Khomeini International Airport. Its bird, Homa, comes from a griffin of Persian lineage.

Iran Air used to be the fastest growing airline in the world, and was poised to take the SSC’s … that is before the Revolution swept through to power.

While it has improved, Iran Air’s website at http://www.iranair.com/ is still a basket case. And, don’t expect to do any booking there. So fast forward to Bombay, the ITC Maratha hotel room, and my frustration as none of the booking engines would let me book IR. India has an excellent array of domestic travel sites – and while all of them offer multi-stop itineraries, none would let me book a trip next day. So, I ended up calling www.makemytrip.com and they were able to create one PNR and two tickets. IR Stock on BOM-IKA connecting to GF stock on IKA-BAH-ADD (BAH-ADD being a ET/GF code-share.) Of course, a last minute one-way ticket in J by a random man from Liechtenstein flying between India and Ethiopia via Iran raised lots of red flag and I had to send copies of my credit card, visa, passport, and Indian entry visa via e-mail before the wonderful agent could process my request. Poor chap kept on telling me that I could fly BOM-ADD nonstop in ET and save a bucket load of money. Haha.

Anyways, having spent the day at the airport hotel on buying the ticket, I treated myself to a very nice dinner at one of my favorite Bombay restaurants called “Vie” (http://www.vie.co.in/) with a good Venezuelan friend who lives there. We saw Mexican actor Gael Garcia Bernal who apparently now lives there a few months every year and has a flat there. Weird, globalized world.

b) At Airport:
My Mercedes chauffeur dropped me at Iran Air’s Gate D @ terminal 2A at BOM. After showing my passport and e-ticket, I walked to the rather busy Iran Air counter. Now, there was a separate line for “Homa Class” and I was not surprised that some of the people ahead of me were not J class passengers. However, an agent came quickly and asked if I was J class, and then quickly ushered me to the first empty counter. Nice.

When I got to the counter, I asked if the Upper Deck was J, and was told that it was not. I requested seat 1A, which prompted the out-sourced ground agent to call the IR manager to unblock the seat. Now this IR station manager was probably one of the rudest man I have ever seen. He started screaming at the young lady saying that the passenger can’t just get any seat he desires and that they should be just given any seat. WTF?! I was standing right there! Anyways, I hate when people abuse power and I made it a point to tell him that there was no need to shout. This made him angrier and he said it was a security block with “security agents” and I should be “grateful” for a seat. Now, this pissed me off. I reminded him that I am a full paying last minute J passenger and this language was inappropriate. He went off again and I told him I would call Indian security if he did not calm down. Now, interestingly, this calmed him down. He mumbled something and went away. The check-in woman was very nice and sweet and apologetic of her superior. She had to photocopy my onward tickets because she was paranoid of letting someone into Iran without a visa. Fine. I got a good window seat, a lounge tag, and some IR bag tags, and was on my way. What an experience at 7am! I was now beginning to get nervous about what lay ahead! Seriously though, where does Iran Air find these agents? They are men who are relics in the service industry. The Iran Air manager in Caracas is made of the exact same fiber!

Anyways, boarding card and departure card in hand, I made it past security and immigration. BOM’s terminal has improved tremendously and I was impressed by the amount of food and duty-free options that had cropped up. Iran Air uses the “Clipper Lounge” which I have used on previous GF and 9W flights. The peaceful Clipper lounge has also gone through significant improvements and I made myself a hot breakfast. There were lots of staff around eager to help out … but I chose to pick a quiet corner and check e-mail on the computer terminal available.

Boarding was called on time and I made it to the gate. It was interesting to see the passenger mix. Almost 75% of the passengers were Iranians who worked in India, and/or, were on shopping trips. There was a ton of very fashionable woman stocked with designer labels. Funny, I thought. I was later told that India had become a hot tourist destination for Iranians, and that Bombay was a big party destination for them to escape the repressive regime at home.

Anyways, I joined the line only to have an agent from the gate walk to me and we had the following conversation:

Agent: “Mr. AM – you are flying Business today right?”
Me: “Yes”
Agent: “Please come with me to the front of the queue”

Not bad. At the gate, the check-in girl apologized (again) for her supervisor and the entire ground staff wished me a pleasant flight. It was all very sweet.

“Homa” Class is in the front of the aircraft. And immediately after I entered, I was thrown back to yesteryear. A huge smiled engulfed all of me. The friendly crew welcomed me, offered welcome drinks (water, OJ), and asked if I needed any assistance with the baggage. The senior purser came by and asked whether I wanted to change seats as my seat was close to the door and it was noisy! Nice little touch. J load was 30% (and the pilots who had brought the flight in from IKA); Y load was 70%.

>Airport - External:

(Bombay Airport)




Check-in:

(Check-in)


Airport - Internal:

(Internal)


(FIDS)


(Post Security @ BOM)






Scenes of the tarmac:

NONE

Lounge

(Clipper Lounge @ BOM)








Boarding:

(Organized boarding and I was called aside by staff)


III> In-Flight:

a) Service Schedule + Impressions:
While on the ground, beverage service is conducted. Also, purser comes with sweets and pens. Then the highlight, an amenity kit! YAY! I now have an Iran Air amenity kit. I feel special. Pretty impressive as it is a daytime flight of 4 hours. After take-off, hot towels and beverage. Then, an elaborate lunch service from the trolley with café and tea. Finally, another meal service prior to landing! Remember, this is a 4 hour flight!!!

Now the highlight. During boarding, I noticed that one of the pilots was talking to another gentleman in Farsi. I approached him and asked if the Saha Air 707 was still flying. He confirmed it was. Anyways, I told him my interest in aviation and we kept talking during boarding and he asked me if I’d like to join him upstairs to “check the lady out myself”. More importantly, he did it in front of the rude SM of BOM. Hehe. Redemption! Like a little kid, I nodded and could barely contain my excitement.

After lunch had been served, it seemed the entire crew knew of my love for aviation and came to share their stories about flying with the airline. There was the young stewardess who also was an athlete; the female purser who had designed the crew uniforms; a camera seeking steward; etc. I knew I was going to be in for a ride. They all thought my routing to fly the 74L was “so adorable”.

Anyways, after all the attention, the lead purser requested me to follow her upstairs. This is where IR crew and security personnel hang out. Entering the flight deck (crew of 4), I was transported to another era. As we crossed Pakistani airspace to Iranian, we traded stories on aviation; favorite aircraft; aviation in Iran; 74L, etc. The flight engineer was super excited to show me the 74L log (WOW!), the certification documents from Boeing, etc. All super cool and nothing like I have encountered before.

After 30 minutes, the cabin crew brought the meals for the flight deck … including a plate for me! I was very touched. They kept on saying, “What would you have?” … “you MUST”. It was all very surreal. I was hanging out with the boys and living the fantasy of anyone into airlines.

Anyways, prior to landing, they requested I return to my seat. I took the moment to walk around the 74L and soak in my first/last experience on the aircraft. I must say, it had an incredible feeling which you just don’t get from aircraft today.

After landing, the entire crew bid me adieu. All just amazing.

b) Aircraft + Seats:
Iran Air’s 74L looked great for her age. It was a trip down memory lane with controls that were from the golden era of air travel. What I thought was impressive was the good conditions of everything.

Iran Air’s J class seats will not be winning any accolade just yet. It was a very US domestic F seat with decent legroom and decent recline. I would not want to be taking this flight daily … but this was a very special situation. One thing – the leg rest seems to have been ill conceived and did not fit in with the overall seating comfort.

Aircraft:

(74L@ BOM)


Views from Aircraft:







General Seat Views + Seat Legroom



(Seat controls)




(Decent legroom …)


(…but don’t try to use the awkward legrest)


(Blanket provided)


Seat Recline + Angle View:





Cabin:







(Y Class)







(Upper Deck)




(Cockpit)


(Bathroom Amenities)





c) Meal + Beverage:

Lunch service was delivered from the trolley and started with an appetizer which was extremely healthy and fresh. Haha … at first, I thought that this was the entire meal service and we would be offered another small meal upon arrival at IKA . Boy, was I wrong! After the entrée, the main was a “trolley-buffet” service very reminiscent of the golden days (I keep on saying the “golden days”, but I was born in 1979. LOL). The food was EXCELLENT restaurant quality Persian fare. The crew was like family trying to overfeed me. Seriously folks, one of the best food I have EVER had on a flight … and I travel my fair bit. Meal service ended with fresh fruits, dessert (I did not have), and café. All incredibly fresh and good.

Prior to landing … and literally an hour after lunch … there was a snack service made of fresh fruits, café, and a very nice croissant. All, top class.

(Lunch)














(What was brought to me in the cockpit)


(pre-Arrival snack)


d) Inflight Entertainment:
As to be expected, IFE was not going to be the highlight of the trip. Besides, “my IFE” was sitting on the cockpit of a 74L and see the world go by. To IR’s credit, they did have an Iranian movie with subtitles play out with audio from some rather nasty headsets. The in-flight magazine was pretty interesting to say the least.





(Propaganda video at the beginning)


(“In-flight magazines”, Boarding Passes, etc.)
(I found the Carlsberg a tad ironic)




e) Crew:
I cannot say enough good things about the Iran Air crew. From the very minute we started boarding, their pro-active hospitality made me feel part of a family. From the head flight-attendant (who also designs their uniform), to the smiling and joking male crew members, to the beautiful woman who worked my section in J, there was a genuineness amongst them that is missing on many an airline.

I have already written at lengths on how they treated me during the flight. At the end, it all came together when they all came to me saying they wanted a picture taken  … and then, they brought me a big bouquet of flowers (!!!) and a couple of model Iran Air planes. Can a crew get any better than that? All of them came to wish me a safe onward trip upon leaving the aircraft. Just pure magical stuff!



IV> Post-Flight:
“Shockingly”, IKA does not get many transit passengers. Especially, those who go from Iran Air to a different airline. So, just prior to the immigration counters, there was a mad scramble by the young security boys as they rushed to figure out what to do with me. They wanted me to give my passport to them … and with the Israel stuff, I absolutely refused. After much persuasion, an airline agent came to verify my passport … go back to check-in … bring back my boarding pass. I was then allowed to take the escalator back to the departure level. All experiences that I will remember … and totally worth it for the 74L!

(Pictures of IKA – who would have thought there would be so many 747s!)



























V> Impressions + Scores:
I did not have many expectations from Iran Air. I flew on them to fly the 74L. However, I ended up being thoroughly impressed by the classiness of their service! Ok, the airport manager in Bombay was a complete ass; and, you do not want to be stuck in those J class seats for a ultra-long haul flight with their crappy IFE and no booze. However, this evaluation is for a short sector and the seats and IFE are adequate. What makes you overlook all that is the absolutely incredible service provided by the crew. As I wrote in their section, they were flawless. Genuine Persian warmth and a desire to help. All the small touches – from making sure I was fed, to treating me like a family member in the cockpit, to all personally coming to thank me and wish me well … a very positive reminder of why I love flying, and why I love this job.

Adding to the amazing crew was a wonderful meal service. Some of the best food I have had on air in a long time. Finally, small touches like the good amenity kit on a 4 hour flight was nice.

Iran Air excelled in most fields. I encourage everyone to try them before their 74L’s are retired. It is a fantastic machine and one that you will look back fondly. Flying on Iran Air makes the experience even more special. Two thumps way up.



VI> Other Trip Reports:

PREMIUM:
8.64: Turkish Airlines (59): JFK-IST: 11/2008
8.63: Jet Airways (88): JFK-BRU: 10/2009
8.61: Air Canada (49): YYZ-SCL: 06/2008
8.54: Turkish Airlines (77): GRU-DKR-IST: 04/2009
8.30: Jet Airways (74): KWI-BOM: 04/2009
8.23: United Airlines (72): SFO-SYD: 03/2009
8.11: Aeroflot (33): MOW-DEL: 09/2007
8.05: Air India (80): CCU-JFK: 06/2009
8.04: Korean Air (40): NRT-ICN: 10/2007
8.02: Delta Airlines (24): JFK-CDG: 08/2007
7.46: LAN (55): YYZ-JFK: 09/2008
7.82: Singapore Airlines (06): EWR-SIN: 09/2006
7.25: Iran Air (88): BOM-IKA: 10/2009
7.23: Virgin Atlantic (81): BOS-LHR: 07/2009
7.14: Swiss (52): SCL-GRU: 06/2008
7.11: Austrian (79): VIE-JFK: 06/2009
7.07: Privatair (84): BOM-FRA: 08/2009
7.02: Qatar (68): DOH-JFK: 01/2009
6.96: Etihad (61): JFK-AUH: 12/2008
6.93: Delta Airlines (18): SEA-JFK: 11/2006
6.84: ConViasa (65): CCS-DAM: 01/2009
6.81: Air Canada (17): ICN-YYZ: 10/2006
6.70: KLM (32): EBB-AMS: 08/2007
6.36: Privatair (60): MUC-BOS: 12/2008
6.25: Korean Air (45): NAN-ICN: 10/2007
6.21: Iberia (87): BOS-MAD: 10/2009
6.11: TAP Portugal (53): GRU-OPO: 06/2008
6.00: Gulf Air (75): BOM-BAH: 04/2009
5.88: African Express (89): DXB-NBO: 11/2009
5.75: Singapore Airlines (16): CCU-SIN: 10/2006
5.64: NorthWest (46): ICN-NRT-SEA: 10/2007
5.46: Icelandair (83): KEF-BOS: 08/2009
5.39: LOT (54): WAW-JFK: 06/2008
5.21: Egypt Air (73): CAI-IST: 02/2009
5.07: TACA (66): JFK-SAP: 01/2009
4.42: Air France: CDG-JNB (25): 08/2007

ECONOMY: Long + Medium:
9.26: Air India (48): JFK-DEL: 02/2008
7.38: Avianca (01): BOG-LIM: 07/2006
7.07: Sri Lankan (62): KWI-CMB: 12/2008
6.41: Avianca (78): JFK-BOG: 05/2009
6.41: American Airlines (58): LHR-BOS: 11/2008
6.39: Condor (85): SEZ-FRA: 09/2009
6.26: Jet Blue (21): CUN-JFK: 02/2007
6.06: Air Canada (04): YYZ-YVR: 09/2006
5.89: USA 3000 (19): PUJ-BDL: 01/2007
5.85: Spanair (69): MAD-LPA: 02/2009
5.79: Air New Zealand (42): RAR-NAN: 10/2007
5.52: Aerolineas (86): USH-AEP: 10/2009
5.46: TAP Air Portugal (23): OSL-LIS: 05/2007
5.19: Air Europa (70): LPA-MAD: 02/2009
5.16: Iberia (71): MAD-BOS: 02/2009
5.11: Air China (82): FRA-PEK: 08/2009

ECONOMY: Short
8.56: Paramount Airways (38): BLR-MAA: 09/2007
8.56: Kingfisher (64): HYD-CCU: 12/2008
8.24: Kingfisher (14): IXA-GAU: 10/2006
7.87: Indian (34): BOM-MAA: 09/2007
7.72: Alliance Air (13): CCU-IXA: 10/2006
7.57: Indian Airlines (10): DEL-CCU: 09/2006
7.23: West Jet (03): YYC-YVR: 09/2006
7.15: JetLite (37): BOM-GOI: 09/2007
6.70: Spice Jet (09): CCU-DEL: 09/2006
6.63: Air Fiji (44): NAN-SUV: 10/2007
6.63: Jazeera (67): DAM-KWI: 01/2009
6.58: Air Tran (02): EWR-MDW: 08/2006
6.48: Air India Express (63): CMB-MAA: 12/2008
6.44: CO Micronesia (39): ROR-YAP: 10/2007
6.41: Pacific Sun (43): NAN-SUV: 10/2007
6.37: Skybus (47): SWF-CMH: 02/2008
6.33: Kenya Airways (29): NBO-BJM: 08/2007
6.33: Sky Europe (56): LTN-BTS: 10/2008
6.31: Indigo (15): GAU-CCU: 10/2006
6.31: easyJet (57): BUD-LTN: 11/2008
6.22: Air Link Swazi (28): MTS-JNB: 08/2007
6.22: Air India (36): HYD-BOM: 09/2007
6.13: Adam Air (07): SIN-CGK: 09/2006
6.13: Air Rarotonga (41): RAR-AIT: 10/2007
6.00: Transairways (27): INH-MPM: 08/2007
5.95: Air Canada (05): ALB-YYZ: 09/2006
5.85: SAS Norge (22): OSL-AES: 05/2007
5.81: LAM Mozambique (26): JNB-MPM: 08/2007
5.69: Air Deccan (12): IXZ-CCU: 10/2006
5.67: Rwanda Air Exp (30): KGL-NBO: 08/2007
5.11: Aero Republica (76): BOG-CCS: 04/2009
5.07: Go Air (35): MAA-HYD: 09/2007
5.00: Sky Airline (51): IQQ-SCL: 06/2008
4.96: Valuair (08): CGK-SIN: 09/2006
4.78: Air Comet Chile (50): SCL-IQQ: 06/2008
4.74: Fly 540 (31): MYD-LAU: 08/2007
4.33: Viva Aerobus (20): ELP-MTY: 02/2007
4.11: Air Sahara (11): CCU-BOM: 09/2006

(Note on Codes: Y – Economy, J – Business, F – First :: I/D – International/Domestic :: SR/MR/LR – Short/Medium/Long Haul)
(Note on Date: Dates are modified to be +/- 3 days from actual flight date to not reveal actual flight pattern)

VII> Other Pictures:

(Pretty good amenity kit. Besides, how many have an Iran Air kit  Smile?)


[Edited 2010-01-30 17:52:42 by abrelosojos]
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TravelsUK
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Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:38 am

Excellent TR and definately a unique experience.

I don't know what anyone else agrees but I think the female cabin crew unifors look really attractive, not as bland or austere I would have expected.
 
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RE: Iran Air IR 811: 08/DEC/09: BOM-IKA: J Cabin

Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:04 am

What a truly fantastic trip report! Iran Air, especially in J class is something that is rare (This is the first IR trip report I have seen). The hospitality of the crew really shows the true nature of Iranian people. The area where I live back home has seen a HUGE influx of Iranian immigrants and I cannot say I've ever experienced anything short of polite and overly friendly interaction with them.

I do however wonder if their photos should be posted on a public forum such as this one. Them letting you into the cockpit/take pictures freely could be very frowned upon by the super fanatical religious government in Iran.
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RE: Iran Air IR 811: 08/DEC/09: BOM-IKA: J Cabin

Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:18 am

Really great report! Iran is one place i would love to go soon, its supposed to be a very beautiful place with great skiing in winter months. I just have too many stamps of a certain country in that neighborhood so I won't be on a flight to IKA in the near future.

What did you think of the terminal in IKA? It did not seem to crowded.
 
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RE: Iran Air IR 811: 08/DEC/09: BOM-IKA: J Cabin

Sun Jan 31, 2010 3:21 am

Wow another fantastic report. You are spoiling us.

I flew on a Pan Am 747SP in F from Los Angeles to New York in 1989 when you were 10. I can't believe how old this plane looks. It must be at least 30 years old.
 
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Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:23 am



Quoting TravelsUK (Reply 1):
Excellent TR and definately a unique experience.

= Yup.

Quoting TravelsUK (Reply 1):

I don't know what anyone else agrees but I think the female cabin crew unifors look really attractive, not as bland or austere I would have expected.

= Agreed.

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 2):
I do however wonder if their photos should be posted on a public forum such as this one. Them letting you into the cockpit/take pictures freely could be very frowned upon by the super fanatical religious government in Iran.

= You know, the thought did cross me. So, during the flight, I told them that I do coverage for some magazine and also that the pictures I was taking could end up as a report on A.Net. They did not mind me taking the picture of them. In fact, they volunteered. Usually, I NEVER take pictures of crew members as I find it weird. This time around, they wanted it.

My take on these situations is simple. Sometimes we have this obsessed view of any particular country and think many things. Yet, the reality might be much different. In this example, I sort of accepted that the staff members were more aware of the issues they can face than the paranoia some in the media keep telling us. Or at least, I hope so.

They were fantastic crew members and a beautiful representation of legendary Iranian hospitality.

Quoting N537FX (Reply 3):
Really great report! Iran is one place i would love to go soon, its supposed to be a very beautiful place with great skiing in winter months. I just have too many stamps of a certain country in that neighborhood so I won't be on a flight to IKA in the near future.

= Me too. My "lover" is Israeli. Just get multiple passports  .

Quoting N537FX (Reply 3):

What did you think of the terminal in IKA? It did not seem to crowded.

= Very functional and clean. Better than many airports in Europe or North America.

Quoting LYchemsa (Reply 4):
Wow another fantastic report. You are spoiling us.

= Thanks. Haha.

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Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:26 am



Quoting Abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(Propaganda video at the beginning)

Was this an actual kind of pro-regime or pro-Iran video? Or was it like the three minute cheesy Aeroflot advertisement video?

Keep up your great reports! They always make for great reads and re-reads when I'm stuck behind my desk on worthless conference calls.
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RE: Iran Air IR 811: 08/DEC/09: BOM-IKA: J Cabin

Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:52 am

What can I say - thank you again for a TREMENDOUS report.
 
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Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:16 am



Quoting JCS17 (Reply 6):
They always make for great reads and re-reads when I'm stuck behind my desk on worthless conference calls.

Thank God I'm not the only one!
 
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RE: Iran Air IR 811: 08/DEC/09: BOM-IKA: J Cabin

Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:22 am

Brilliant Alex!

Quoting Abrelosojos (Thread starter):
I noticed that Iran Air plies their 74L twice weekly to BOM. Immediately, my head started spinning with the desire to fly the aircraft. I HAD TO DO IT!

- Yes, if the chance is there!

Quoting Abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Poor chap kept on telling me that I could fly BOM-ADD nonstop in ET and save a bucket load of money. Haha.

- Some people will never get us.

Quoting Abrelosojos (Thread starter):
At the end, it all came together when they all came to me saying they wanted a picture taken  … and then, they brought me a big bouquet of flowers (!!!) and a couple of model Iran Air planes. Can a crew get any better than that? All of them came to wish me a safe onward trip upon leaving the aircraft. Just pure magical stuff!

- This just goes to show not all Iranians are as bad as the media make them out to be.

This is one of those once in a lifetime trip's, amazing stuff.

The cabin looks like the pictures Boeing produced back in the late 60's/early 70's, seems little if anything has changed, pure history!

Thanks for posting, a really enjoyable read.

Regards

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RE: Iran Air IR 811: 08/DEC/09: BOM-IKA: J Cabin

Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:26 am

Hi Alex,

another excellent report, one of your best. Fantastic to see how you were treated by the crew. I heard similar stories from enthusiasts flying on Iranian domestic routes. They were treated as special guests and got seats in Business Class even though they had booked Economy.

Quoting Abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Now this IR station manager was probably one of the rudest man I have ever seen. He started screaming at the young lady saying that the passenger can’t just get any seat he desires and that they should be just given any seat. WTF?! I was standing right there! Anyways, I hate when people abuse power and I made it a point to tell him that there was no need to shout. This made him angrier and he said it was a security block with “security agents” and I should be “grateful” for a seat. Now, this pissed me off. I reminded him that I am a full paying last minute J passenger and this language was inappropriate. He went off again and I told him I would call Indian security if he did not calm down. Now, interestingly, this calmed him down.

Well done, you scared him!  

Quoting Abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(Pictures of IKA – who would have thought there would be so many 747s!)

Yes, there are quite a few. And interestingly, you can find all (basic) 747 variants at IKA - operated by only two carriers. Mahan Air has 747-300s and 747-400s (currently stored AFAIK), Iran Air has 747-200s, a 747-100 and 747SPs.

Quoting Abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Iran Air excelled in most fields. I encourage everyone to try them before their 74L’s are retired

All four 747SPs are back in service, chances are better now again than they used to be for some time.

Quoting JAGflyer (Reply 2):
I do however wonder if their photos should be posted on a public forum such as this one.

Interesting thought. It's fine if you tell these people about your intentions. However, I would never ever post pictures with people who are not aware of the consequences. That's why I always blur faces in my trip reports.


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Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:31 am

Thanks for a great report.
IR is a nice airline, i had opportunity to fly them from ARN to IKA , but only on a A300.
Also the IR Station manager is a total opposite from your experience.One of the best at ARN airport.
You flew on GF out of IKA?? Those winglets on that airbus looks just like QR
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Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:36 am

Hi Alex!!

Wow, another amazing reprot! Iran Air seems to have very good food and lots of it. Aboslutely amazing with that amount of food served on a 4 h flight! Crew seems to be fantastic and in my opinion, the crew is the most important factor in a good flight. A fantastic crew can make up for lack of IFE.

Quoting Abrelosojos, reply=9:
and then, they brought me a big bouquet of flowers (!!!) and a couple of model Iran Air planes.

I'ver never heard of such a thing; speechless! You got to keep the model planes ? What kind were they ? Just curioes....

The interior looks probably very much like it did when the aircraft was first delivered in the late 1970s. Seats looks okay; similiar to what United and TWA had in the early 1990s or earlier.

I flew on a UA 74L LHR-LAX (N144UA) in Oct92 so I have already had my 74L fix.

Thanks again for posting this report! Two amazing exotic reports back to back. Can't wait to see what's in store for us next!!!

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Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:42 am

Hi A.!
you did it again. Another brilliant report, and featuring another interesting route/aircraft combi. Indeed an understandable choice to book that SP flight now, you never know how long they continue to fly these odd aircrafts.
I'm happy to see this report, which is so positive about IR's crew. That means that it's not all that bad as we read/hear in the media.
I use to see the IR crew at AMS walking by my office, when they go to their aircraft. Usually a large group, for the A300 flights, but always very smiling and they seem to be in a good mood.
And of course, such a good pics again. I like the cabin shot with the stairs to UD in the background! Nicely done, very retro  

Regards,
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Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
Mahan Air has 747-300s and 747-400s (currently stored AFAIK)

@ PH; Mahan's B747-400's were due to fly in to AMS last week, but were called back to THR while enroute... Their purpose of visiting AMS was to be maintenance, with KLM.
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Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:33 pm

Alex I have always been a big fan of your trip reports, and I finally decided to take the plunge after a long time and join A.net! Iran Air definitely seems like a great airline to fly with and the crew seem fantastic. I am surprised the IR people at BOM let you board the plane with Israeli stamps, surely you are not allowed to transit with those in your passport? Anyway will be going to one of those countries, ie Lebanon, soon but don't have any Israeli stamps on mine. Anyway great trip report and I'm looking forward to more of your adventures!
 
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Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:48 pm

Hi Alex,
Fantastic TR. I loved it. Reminds me of my trip years ago, one that Id love to repeat but probably wont.
Shame these interiors and other such things are dying away. The Iran Air crew are gracious and welcoming.

Food looks lovely. Then again I loved the food in Iran.

Happy flying

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Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:18 pm

Nice TR! It looks like Iran Air has a very nice atmosphere in first class. Too bad about the lack of IFE.
 
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Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:27 pm

I had to make myself a cuppa and get comfortable for this one.

Smashing read. What a great crew you had. I have usually found the same with Iranian crews - they are usually extremely friendly and interested in our enthusiasm for flying with them.

I see you flew EP-IAD. I've flown this one twice in 2008. It looks like they have since changed the seat covers - these were photos I took of Homa Class on the same aircraft:

EP-IAD, Homa Class, 2nd October 2008
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/flymajj/2008_10_02%20NRT%20PEK/IMG_1389.jpg

Thanks for another fine report.
 
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Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:41 pm

Wow thanks for the amazing trip report! Again as always always impressed and thanks for giving us a glimpse into IR!
 
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Quoting JCS17 (Reply 6):
Was this an actual kind of pro-regime or pro-Iran video? Or was it like the three minute cheesy Aeroflot advertisement video?

= Sort of of a mix of all of them. There was the how amazing IR is and their expansion; Iran's progress as a country; and, finally the reason (the MAN) behind the progress.

Quoting JCS17 (Reply 6):
They always make for great reads and re-reads when I'm stuck behind my desk on worthless conference calls.

= Haha. I knew my TR's had a higher purpose  .

Quoting MilesDependent (Reply 7):
What can I say - thank you again for a TREMENDOUS report.

= Anytime.

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 9):
The cabin looks like the pictures Boeing produced back in the late 60's/early 70's, seems little if anything has changed, pure history!

= Nothing has changed ... except the weird flat screen TV in J class!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
Interesting thought. It's fine if you tell these people about your intentions. However, I would never ever post pictures with people who are not aware of the consequences. That's why I always blur faces in my trip reports.

= As mentioned earlier, I NEVER take pictures of crew. In this instance, they came and wanted one. Moreover, I had told them where it MAY appear.

Quoting Flyboy_se (Reply 11):
Also the IR Station manager is a total opposite from your experience.One of the best at ARN airport.

= Cool. I have not had good luck with IR managers. The one at CCS is a total *ss with a very "interesting" construct of women.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 12):
boslutely amazing with that amount of food served on a 4 h flight! Crew seems to be fantastic and in my opinion, the crew is the most important factor in a good flight. A fantastic crew can make up for lack of IFE.

= Agreed on IFE. Ya, the food served was indeed amazing.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 12):
You got to keep the model planes ? What kind were they ? Just curioes....

= I will post a picture of them soon.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 12):
Two amazing exotic reports back to back. Can't wait to see what's in store for us next!!!

= Haha. Nothing as exotic anymore. I rarely get as much time with my engagements from work ... and as people know, I dont write reports on work trips.

Quoting Airbuseric (Reply 13):
That means that it's not all that bad as we read/hear in the media.

= Nope  .

Quoting Malayil (Reply 15):
I am surprised the IR people at BOM let you board the plane with Israeli stamps, surely you are not allowed to transit with those in your passport?

= Remember, the Israeli stamps prevent someone from entering Iran. I was transiting - and so BOM/Indians would not care. Besides, they are more open-minded than the lunatic EK agent at CAI who refused to board me on a EK connect to SIN once. To be fair, I should be grateful, I know of several people who were denied entry for transit by Dubai authorities.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 16):
Fantastic TR. I loved it. Reminds me of my trip years ago, one that Id love to repeat but probably wont.
Shame these interiors and other such things are dying away. The Iran Air crew are gracious and welcoming.

= GO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quoting CanadianDC10 (Reply 17):
Too bad about the lack of IFE.

= Trust me, I did not notice.

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 18):
I had to make myself a cuppa and get comfortable for this one.

= LOL. Now, I never received any email from you about our plans for 2010  .

Saludos,
A.
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Quoting Fly2YYZ (Reply 19):
Wow thanks for the amazing trip report! Again as always always impressed and thanks for giving us a glimpse into IR!

= Anytime  . BTW, who do you work for at KBL? I am sure we have crossed paths then  .

Saludos,
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Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:53 pm

AWESOME....i always watch the 74L land by my house and the loud noise just excites me!
I really really dint know how the J would be...but looking at your TR, it wouldn't be any better!


Nice job man!...hope you have many surprises lined up  

Quoting Abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Lunch service was delivered from the trolley and started with an appetizer which was extremely healthy and fresh. Haha … at first, I thought that this was the entire meal service and we would be offered another small meal upon arrival at IKA . Boy, was I wrong! After the entrée, the main was a “trolley-buffet” service very reminiscent of the golden days (I keep on saying the “golden days”, but I was born in 1979. LOL). The food was EXCELLENT restaurant quality Persian fare. The crew was like family trying to overfeed me. Seriously folks, one of the best food I have EVER had on a flight … and I travel my fair bit. Meal service ended with fresh fruits, dessert (I did not have), and café. All incredibly fresh and good.

Prior to landing … and literally an hour after lunch … there was a snack service made of fresh fruits, café, and a very nice croissant. All, top class.

(Lunch)

Wow, isn't this how the food was served in J before in the early 70's?
Simply tasty!
Couldn't be more better!

Marvelous report!

Keep flying!
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Quoting Jayeshrulz (Reply 22):
Nice job man!...hope you have many surprises lined up

= Haha. Unfortunately, these "exotic" reports come to an end for a little bit.

Quoting Jayeshrulz (Reply 22):
Wow, isn't this how the food was served in J before in the early 70's?
Simply tasty!
Couldn't be more better!

= I would guess so ... was not really born  .

Thanks for reading,
A.
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Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:15 pm

Hi Abrelosojos,

I always read your reports with great pleasure, and this is - again - a fantastic report!

The treatment you got i guess it's totally uncommon for airline standards, but pretty common for Iranian standards. If you have some time left in the future (and an "Israeli-free" passport) don't hesitate to spend some time there. Just like JAGFlyer said, Iranians are just as hospitable and friendly as you have experienced...! My four week holiday consisted of highlights only...
By the way, I have experienced myself how Israeli officials can be pretty creative and understanding concerning putting their stamps on an extra -removable- paper which they attach your passport.

And keep them coming, those TRs!

Cheers,
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Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:50 pm

Excellent report again! What a great routing! I would have been anxious to be denied boarding although having an onward ticket, but since it's a seperate ticket on another airline... Good to know those things work out well.

As you may know I work in a IATA-Agency. We get faxes on a regular basis from Iran Air.. They promote some special IT fares (with IT codes showing they're 5 or 6 years old). it's so old school. Those fare are not filed in the GDS and each single sheet seems to be faxed manually after being photocopied a million times... What's more is that every sheet is signed and stamped by the german IR manager... So old school... Did I mentioned we never sold them?   Must be another world, but they have avery high luguage allowance (I guess 40 kg in eco). Nice to see the crew is so nice. They must be like a family too...
 
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Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:21 pm

One cannot miss a day on Airliners.net these days.... Awesome trip reports every single day.....This one is very much appreciated. I couldn't be happier that the crew asked to have their pic taken!! Looking forward to the pictures of the model planes. Thank you again so much for the trip report.
 
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Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:56 am

Brilliant , yet another spectacular one.

I know that you flew on a Tuesday.  wink 

The food looked good and the front end looked like a private jet.

Here is another suggestion, back in the days having PTV's was a wow thing and now we have upgraded our taste to AVOD.
Now after almost 100 TRs, I think it would be fair if you can upgrade your TRs to ATOD (Abrelosojos TRs On Demand). I'll put my request list soon :P
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Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:03 am



Quoting Abrelosojos (Thread starter):
While it has improved, Iran Air’s website at http://www.iranair.com/ is still a basket case. And, don’t expect to do any booking there. So fast forward to Bombay, the ITC Maratha hotel room, and my frustration as none of the booking engines would let me book IR. India has an excellent array of domestic travel sites – and while all of them offer multi-stop itineraries, none would let me book a trip next day.

For future reference (and for anyone else wanting to fly Iran Air), www.alternativeairlines.com (based in the UK) can book Iran Air and many other weird and wonderful airlines, with e-tickets, and payment by credit card. I used them to purchase several domestic Iran Air flights last year. They charge about 10 GBP fee on top of the fare. Worked without a hitch. They supposedly can also book Mahan Air and others though I didn't try.
 
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Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:08 am

Hi A.,

What a great TR! Very unique. Sounds like you had an excellent time onboard and the crew seemed great! I really wish I had an opportunity to travel on the 747SP.

Unfortunate about the poor service received at check in but the rest of the flight certainly made up for it! And even topping it off with a bouquet - I mean I have never heard of any airline doing this! Food looks fantastic.

Thanks for sharing such an experience here with us all!

Regards,
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Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:40 pm

Hi, Abrelosojos,

My dad is from Iran, and flew these same birds many years ago... I showed him your report, (Still trying to convince him that he will take me on an-SP) And, he said, gave him old memories... He did like it a lot, and really liked your report. The J class was the same as the last time he left Iran! (25ish years ago, I believe.) So thank you, for bringing my dream of SP flying closer!
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Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:14 pm

Hi Abrelosojos

Great TR! I throughly enjoyed reading a report about IR and their 74SP. Its just experiences like that that makes me wish I could have experienced the so called "golden era" that existed.

Thanks for taking the time to do such a good report.
 
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Quoting Floris83 (Reply 24):
The treatment you got i guess it's totally uncommon for airline standards, but pretty common for Iranian standards. If you have some time left in the future (and an "Israeli-free" passport) don't hesitate to spend some time there. Just like JAGFlyer said, Iranians are just as hospitable and friendly as you have experienced...! My four week holiday consisted of highlights only...

= I have 5 passports   ... so this is never an issue. It was just that I didn't carry another one on this trip. I had no real thought of flyin gthe 74L until I was at client site.

Quoting Floris83 (Reply 24):
By the way, I have experienced myself how Israeli officials can be pretty creative and understanding concerning putting their stamps on an extra -removable- paper which they attach your passport.

= Yup. However, they have changed their ways of late.

Quoting Reifel (Reply 25):
Excellent report again! What a great routing! I would have been anxious to be denied boarding although having an onward ticket, but since it's a seperate ticket on another airline... Good to know those things work out well.

= Yup.

Quoting Reifel (Reply 25):
As you may know I work in a IATA-Agency. We get faxes on a regular basis from Iran Air.. They promote some special IT fares (with IT codes showing they're 5 or 6 years old). it's so old school. Those fare are not filed in the GDS and each single sheet seems to be faxed manually after being photocopied a million times... What's more is that every sheet is signed and stamped by the german IR manager... So old school... Did I mentioned we never sold them? Must be another world, but they have avery high luguage allowance (I guess 40 kg in eco). Nice to see the crew is so nice. They must be like a family too...

= I owe you a message soon ... am trying to get a weird ticket done  .

Quoting Flightsimboy (Reply 26):
I couldn't be happier that the crew asked to have their pic taken!! Looking forward to the pictures of the model planes. Thank you again so much for the trip report.

= Will do when I am back in CCS. In Mali now for work. People should visit ... it is a beautiful country.

Quoting Ojas (Reply 27):
The food looked good and the front end looked like a private jet.

= Food was excellent. I think they are catered by TAJ SATS out of Bombay. I could be wrong.

Quoting Ojas (Reply 27):
Now after almost 100 TRs, I think it would be fair if you can upgrade your TRs to ATOD (Abrelosojos TRs On Demand). I'll put my request list soon :P

= Willing to pay my billing rates  ? I can quit then.

Quoting Pagophilus (Reply 28):
For future reference (and for anyone else wanting to fly Iran Air), www.alternativeairlines.com (based in the UK) can book Iran Air and many other weird and wonderful airlines, with e-tickets, and payment by credit card. I used them to purchase several domestic Iran Air flights last year. They charge about 10 GBP fee on top of the fare. Worked without a hitch. They supposedly can also book Mahan Air and others though I didn't try.

= Good advice ... however, a word of caution that I have had issues with e-tickets generated through them on some obscure carriers.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 29):
Unfortunate about the poor service received at check in but the rest of the flight certainly made up for it! And even topping it off with a bouquet - I mean I have never heard of any airline doing this! Food looks fantastic.

= Yup. A bit impractical ... visualize me walking through IKA with a bouquet of flower ... but the thought itself was absolutely amazing.

Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 30):
My dad is from Iran, and flew these same birds many years ago... I showed him your report, (Still trying to convince him that he will take me on an-SP) And, he said, gave him old memories... He did like it a lot, and really liked your report. The J class was the same as the last time he left Iran! (25ish years ago, I believe.) So thank you, for bringing my dream of SP flying closer!

= He was IR captain?

Quoting FirstAlways (Reply 31):
Its just experiences like that that makes me wish I could have experienced the so called "golden era" that existed.

= You still can ... just not in several parts of the world  

Saludos,
A.
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Tue Feb 02, 2010 10:18 am

Wow, that's incredibly impressive. I spend most of the flights I'm lucky enough to go on praying for a cockpit visit, it's never happened so far. Any tips to make it happen?
 
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Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 32):
= He was IR captain?

Now that I see my post, I did not word it well. No, he was a frequent traveler in and out of Iran, and the last time he flew out, he flew on the same J class seats.
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Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:19 pm

What a wonderful trip report; wish I could have done it. I'm really surprised you got so many photos around the cabin; whatever about the cabin crew, I thought the security personnel might have objected, but well done nonetheless! It just goes to show that well maintained acft can go on forever!

Do you find, in a situation, like this, that the way you calculate your flight scores - which is very methodical and well organised, doesn't always reflect how much you actually enjoyed the flight; although you have a few flights higher than this in your scoring, it occurs to me that if you had to repeat any flight, this would be it?!

Incidentally, did you get to fly on the Saha 707?
 
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Quoting Abrelosojos (Thread starter):
We saw Mexican actor Gael Garcia Bernal who apparently now lives there a few months every year and has a flat there. Weird, globalized world.

Awesome...I loved The Motorcycle Diaries and Babel.


Wonderful report....like UK_dispatcher I also had to make myself a 'cuppa' (ice-cream in my case) and get comfortable for what was a very enjoyable read...thank you yet again. You are spoiling us ...a gratifying end to a long day. Will leave this open to read for a few days
Thanks Alex.
Best regards
Omar
 
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Quoting MarcW10 (Reply 33):
Wow, that's incredibly impressive. I spend most of the flights I'm lucky enough to go on praying for a cockpit visit, it's never happened so far. Any tips to make it happen?

= Be nice. Show your interest in aviation and just ask. You'd be surprised how less stifling regulations are outside Europe/USA. In Europe (recent experiences on FI and OS), one can go to the cockpit ... but only if the captain fancies you apparently  .

Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 34):
Now that I see my post, I did not word it well. No, he was a frequent traveler in and out of Iran, and the last time he flew out, he flew on the same J class seats.

= Either way, super cool.

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 35):
What a wonderful trip report; wish I could have done it. I'm really surprised you got so many photos around the cabin; whatever about the cabin crew, I thought the security personnel might have objected, but well done nonetheless! It just goes to show that well maintained acft can go on forever!

= I was surprised too ... especially given the entire upper deck was pretty much IR security.

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 35):
Do you find, in a situation, like this, that the way you calculate your flight scores - which is very methodical and well organised, doesn't always reflect how much you actually enjoyed the flight; although you have a few flights higher than this in your scoring, it occurs to me that if you had to repeat any flight, this would be it?!

= Well. A few things. It is a trip report and so I will always judge based on the pre-set categories and weight as I do believe airlines should be judged on these benchmarks. Of course, individuals will defer on the "weights" places on each of the category. You're right in that some "exotic" routes are much more enjoyable than others - this can be seen in the "Ambience" category. But does IR provide a better service in general than say 9W or TK? I'd say NO. While they are fun to take, I wouldn't repeat or do a 74L flight (even for business) between 2 long haul points when other options exist. They are not that good  . Having said that, hardware is just one aspect of evaluation. My IR (and XU) flight beat out SQ because the later (on that flight) just sucked.

I know this is a complicated long winded answer. To be honest, I think any system developed may have flaws ... currently, I like what I have ... and it has evolved from the initial one which had less categories and no weighting. A fellow A.Netter helped me realize I needed weights!

Quoting Kaitak (Reply 35):
Incidentally, did you get to fly on the Saha 707?

= No. Remember that Israeli stamp  ?

Quoting Directorguy (Reply 36):
Awesome...I loved The Motorcycle Diaries and Babel.

= Me too.

Thanks for reading.

Saludos,
A.
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tonyban
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Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:53 pm

An excellent trip trip repot. I flew the 747SP back on Dec 25th 1991 from EWR to LHR on UA.
The Iran Air crew really deserve special praise for their service.
 
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:48 am

Wow, what a great report! I have always enjoying reading your reports. I was able to ride the AA 747sp DFW/NRT in F and NRT/DFW in C class back in the day. The DFW/NRT F class service was just incredible and one of the nicest flights I have ever taken. They had just removed the stand-up bars in the F and C cabins, so I was sorry I missed that. What a treat for you to be able to experience a flight that was back in time!

All the best,

will
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Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:51 pm

Wow! A very nice trip report man!! It is very rare to experience such a flight! I am sure the crew got a hatred for the American Navy to shot down IR655. How was the flight? Does the Flat Screen TV shows an Inflight map feature? By the way, the models aircraft you get from them,what do they look like? Would love to fly Iranair one day!
 
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Fri Feb 05, 2010 3:45 pm

Quoting CYSAFAN (Reply 40):
I am sure the crew got a hatred for the American Navy to shot down IR655.

Why would you say that ? The crew ought to be professional and unbiased and politics shouldn't be a factor. Besides, that event took place 22 years ago.
 
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Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:26 am

Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 20):

= Sort of of a mix of all of them. There was the how amazing IR is and their expansion; Iran's progress as a country; and, finally the reason (the MAN) behind the progress.

How poor (or awesome) was the production value? I'm guessing it probably had an early-90s feel.
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Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:40 am

Wow, how are you going to top this one? Just amazing stuff.
I thought it was going to go downhill after you had the problems with the guy at the desk but what a great turn of events.
Thanks for sharing, made my day, oh by the way it is 4:40am.
 
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Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:28 am

Quoting tonyban (Reply 41):
he crew ought to be professional and unbiased and politics shouldn't be a factor. Besides, that event took place 22 years ago.

Maybe.. I don't know. Besides, we can't read their minds lol!
 
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Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:13 pm

Quoting Tonyban (Reply 38):
The Iran Air crew really deserve special praise for their service.

= They do. They were amazing.

Quoting CYSAFAN (Reply 40):
Does the Flat Screen TV shows an Inflight map feature?

= Yes.

Quoting CYSAFAN (Reply 40):
By the way, the models aircraft you get from them,what do they look like?

= I will post a picture when I am back in Caracas. Am on the road and in Abidjan. I love this country!

Quoting JCS17 (Reply 42):
How poor (or awesome) was the production value? I'm guessing it probably had an early-90s feel.

= Pretty poor production value. Guessing Mr. Ahmedinijad was prominently featured visiting "scientific places", I'd think it was new.

Quoting TK787 (Reply 43):
Wow, how are you going to top this one?

= Haha.

Quoting TK787 (Reply 43):
Thanks for sharing, made my day, oh by the way it is 4:40am.

= Guess you had a late night too  .

Thanks for reading.

Saludos,
A.
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Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:47 am

This is an incredible trip report!
That is awesome to you were able to get a flight on a rare bird such as the Iran Air 747-SP.
I saw your plane in Tokyo about 2 years ago.
Bring back the Concorde
 
LH648
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Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:40 pm

As usual, great report!

p.s. Let's have some beer next time you in Kazakhstan : )
 
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Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:02 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 46):
This is an incredible trip report!
That is awesome to you were able to get a flight on a rare bird such as the Iran Air 747-SP.
I saw your plane in Tokyo about 2 years ago.

= Ya. I wish I had more time these days to fly for leisure. Too much work.

Quoting LH648 (Reply 47):
p.s. Let's have some beer next time you in Kazakhstan : )

= You know, Kazakhstan is VERY high on my agenda of places to visit. However, I feel I need at least 2 weeks to do it justice. What do you do there?

Saludos,
A.
Live, and let live.
 
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RE: Iran Air IR 811: 08/DEC/09: BOM-IKA: J Cabin

Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:32 pm

Fantastic report Alex. And, the drinks in BOM were fun. Come back soon and see us! You can even meet all the crazy Iranian partiers  .

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