Personal service on TO and BritAir´s F100 RAK-ORY-SXB





Marhaba again, dear readers,

now I will continue my inbound story

A Rough Landing In Marrakech On RAM (by FLIEGER67 Mar 9 2010 in Trip Reports)

with some city sights and the return flights.

It was Tuesday afternoon, when I´ve reached my hotel,
the Dellarosa in Marrakech.

It´s possible to walk downtown from there.
Some 20 minutes to go, to reach the
Koutoubia mosque

built in the 12th century, a masterpiece and example for lots of later built minaret´s.
Going for a closer look around

and the surroundings

Also the place in front off the mosque with its palm trees, real nice


And not far away is the "Djemaa el Fna", the "place of the hanged man"
one of the most mystic places in Morroco.
Nearly unbelievable for us middle Europeans

Thiefs, acrobats, story tellers, musicians all here

Gnaoua musicians playing their instuments

and all in between driving cars, bikes and motorbikes

Back to the hotel in the evening, not that much action at the bar, so some sleep was warm welcomed.
On the way to my room

Warm and sunny weather welcomed me the following morning

but it was finally time to leave for the airport again.
Another smelly old Fiat shuttled me down there, ontime to do some pictures.
The ultra modern terminal building

RAK has a good number of flights to middle Europe, mainly loco traffic.

Wednesday, 17.02.2010




Paris-Orly

Service TO 3015 operated by Transavia France
Scheduled: 10.00 // 14.10
Actual: 10.30 // 14.05

My flight shows "enregistrement"

and also the arrival from Orly seems ontime

so time now to leave my bag.
Online-Check-In for flights from RAK wasn´t possible.
A friendly male agent was free for me and it seems always the same nowadays.
I´ve asked for window last row and received 29A, not the last row.
He accepted my bag and I was on the way trough security.
Well, I´ve vote for bodyscanners in any case, much better than here in RAK wehre all passengers
searched personal and that grumpy old police guy touched me, where I dont want to be touched.
No time to wait at passport control to receice my final stamp out of Morocco.
Up the stairs to the departure lounge with a first view on the apron.
It seems the same machines parked like yesterday

EZY to CDG shows some three hours delay, but it seems my flight goes ok

Some military action on the runway nice to follow

Performing double take offs

The palm tree surroundings

Another RAM machine on arrivals

and taxied in

Short thereafter followed by my machine

So it seems, at least

Turned and heading for my gate 01

Nice colours, from my point of view

F-GZHD, the scheduled 737-800,
delivered at 21.04.2008 to TO, leg no. 45 for me ontype and a new registration
TO operates seven 737-800´s with two more upcoming for the summer season.

Engines off and parked

Easy Swiss touching down in the background

And ground handlers prepared for service

Another angle to my plane

Boarding started finally self service above the apron with nice photo opportunities
during these sunny day with a temperature around 20 degrees

The machine good looking

And finally rear stairs boarding for me

RAM departed again

I've boarded, as usual, as one of the last pax and chatted with the nice male FA while the others searching for their seats.
29B and C occupied, the last row empty.
"What about changing to the last row", was my question, he answered, "Wait a second".
He called his purser in the front and received the information that the complete last row was free for crew rest.
He offered me 31 A and blocked all the other seats with the seat belts.
So, we had less than ten open seats according to his information and I´ve had three, sorry, six for me again, real personal and superb service for me here on Transavia France.
And this all together for some 30.-- Euros, booked at TO´s homepage, not bad at all.
The cabin fitted with green blue fabric seats, legroom ok, but not that really clean

A last view to Marrakech Menara and the terminal

Before it was time to head to the runway entrance while a Thomas Cook machine arrived

And Easy Swiss departed short ahead to GVA

Departure was from runway 28 like arrivals yesterday for the 2 hours 45 minutes flight to ORY

Another cabin shot short after departure

while we climbed away from Morroco

A closer view to the safety card follows, as usual

The route was somewhat different, we´re heading more western

and leaving mainland Morocco above the sea

Some traffic southbound here

Going above XRY, clouds along the whole way from southern spain, no more route or flightlevel informations

Cockpit crew was from France, with only a very short weather information during approach,
+ 3 degrees and some rain.
Service was BOB, nothing for free on TO.
Nothing to see till nearly touchdown on runway 06 also like yesterday.
Taxi along Terminal west with some AF subsidiaries

And further on to terminal sud

Airlinairs ATR´s and Aigle Azur at Terminal South

and finally the usual good bye foto with my seat

Some ten minutes at immigration, the french police officers seemed not that friendly to all that pax from the Maghreb states here.
Also bag delivery needs some more 15 minutes with a Tunisair service from TUN on the same belt.
Finally mine arrived and so I was on the way for the Orlyval station to change terminals again.

Wednesday, 17.02.2010



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Paris-Orly



Service Air France AF 7310 operated by Brit Air
Scheduled: 17.20 // 18.20
Actual: 17.20 // 18.20

Orlyval delivered me without any hassles at Orly west.
A first view to the board shows me the earlier service to SXB as cancelled, not good, hopefully not a major problem there, sorry no pic this time, I was to slow here.
Looking for the self service kiosks, well, impossible don´t locate one and typing my flying blue number in.
As expected, no more windows, but one aisle in the back with the two seaters, 18C,
secured and printed.
That will be mostly a n ightflight, so acceptable.
Leaving my bag at the dedicated counter and time to go now, for a closer view around.
Btw. booking was done also via Exp.de, the fare around 50.-- Euros.
Well, AF at every corner, some IB/UX and Vueling, but more or less AF all around.

A huge number of domestic departures in every corner of this huge country on the screen

And my plane´s nose in the lower right corner

F-GPXJ, the scheduled Fokker 100, delivered at 21.12.1990 to Lybian Arab Airlines,
further at 01.12.1993 to Transwede, heading for the US register with Midway Airlines at 10.07.1995, back to good old Europe registered in the UK for Gill Airways at 19.03.1999, further on at 30.05.2003 to EU Jet and since 11.04.2006 in service with Brit Air.
Brit Air operates 11 machines on type with F-GPXJ as the oldest example.
Leg no. 11 for me ontype and a new registration.
Lots of pax in this area, gate 10G for me and also a very small security control area, somewhat ancient airport design here.
But on the other hand side very comfortable leather seats.
Boarding started as announced with me as one of the last pax to check other seating options.
Much to my surprise 18A remained free, when I´ve walked down to the planes cabin end, so also here
two for me.
One male , one female in service, both together friendly.
The french captain also with a friendly welcome during boarding.
The load was finally at around 90%, lots of biz travellers on this flight.
The cabin fitted with dark grey comfortable leather seats, clean good legroom.

It´s looking much more modern than the younger Contact F100 on behalf of LH flown some days ago.
A view on the safety card as usual

and the cabin ceiling

Breaking the AF colours, nearby Vueling heading for Valencia.

Departure from runway 08, no route or flightlevel informations,
after another maghreb service on Air Algerie

Cruising above the clouds in the last daylight, nice with that red markers on the wings

and the engine close behind

Service was snacks and free drinks

and a last wing view prior to sundown

The captain informed us about the weather conditions during approach, wet and + 1 degrees.
Flight time was only 45 minutes. We landed finally on runway 23 like yesterdays departure.
With only one other plane at the apron, well known RAM

The captain was at the planes door during deboarding and wished me a good evening,
once more personal service here on AF and its subsidiaries.
Bye-bye Brit Air, see you again in a couple of weeks.

Finger deboarding and my bag was on the belt, when I was in the open baggage area.
Some two nightly hours on the motorway till I was back home again.

TO is recommendable, at least with that superb price earning ratio for my flight, real personal service there,
also AF/Brit Air was on schedule, friendly staff and once again personal service with the captain at the planes door during disembarking.

So, if nothing goes wrong, the next report will be titled
"Six circles around the Aetna".

42 legs to go now
and countries in order to visit:
Italy
Tunisia
Italy
France
Spain
Poland
France
Bosnia
UK
and Danmark.

Comments welcome
Markus (Flieger67)

Hi Markus,

very nice second part with good pictures. Marrakech looks like an interesting destination.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter): On the way to my room

The corridor doesn't look very attractive - how was the hotel in general?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter): Well, I´ve vote for bodyscanners in any case, much better than here in RAK wehre all passengers searched personal and that grumpy old police guy touched me, where I dont want to be touched.

Awful...

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter): The cabin fitted with green blue fabric seats, legroom ok, but not that really clean

Interesting seat design!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter): Much to my surprise 18A remained free, when I´ve walked down to the planes cabin end, so also here two for me.

That's luck!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter): "Six circles around the Aetna".

Hopefully you won't have to circle around Mount Etna in never-ending holding patterns...  


PH

[Edited 2010-03-15 13:54:23]

Hi Markus,

Great pictures of Marrakech. And it seems that you have made a right choice to fly HV to ORY. It makes me want ot fly HV again sometime. It has been 8 years ago.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter): that grumpy old police guy touched me, where I dont want to be touched.

How awful!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter): Up the stairs to the departure lounge with a first view on the apron. It seems the same machines parked like yesterday

Lovely, an open viewing gallery! RAK must be a nice spotting place.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter): He offered me 31 A and blocked all the other seats with the seat belts.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter): Much to my surprise 18A remained free, when I´ve walked down to the planes cabin end, so also here two for me.

Somehow, the last row policy would not work for me. On my outbound VY flight to BCN, the whole last row was occupied.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter): 42 legs to go now and countries in order to visit: Italy Tunisia Italy France Spain Poland France Bosnia UK and Danmark.

No Holland?   

Thank you for sharing. I really enjoyed it.

Cheers,
Suryo

Hi Markus,

Good to read your return trip, looks like it was pretty decent.

I like the look of the RAK terminal, at least from the outside, not sure why, looks kind of welcoming.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter): Well, I´ve vote for bodyscanners in any case, much better than here in RAK wehre all passengers searched personal and that grumpy old police guy touched me, where I dont want to be touched

- I tend to get that @ AMS, it's alway a guy touchingme, I'm quite happy to get a pad down from one of the younger girls  

The interior of your F100 flight looked much better than the one I took to CDG last year, seems the interiors of these used birds don't match.

Roll on the next segment  

Cheers

Mark

Hey, nice to follow that comments.

@PH:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1): very nice second part with good pictures. Marrakech looks like an interesting destination.

Thank you and indeed it´s worth a visit.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1): The corridor doesn't look very attractive - how was the hotel in general?

Not that expensive, but lot´s of things non-fixed, for example it wasn´t possible to close the door to the open terrace, somewhat dirty and else.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1): Awful...

Absolutely.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1): Six circles around the Aetna". Hopefully you won't have to circle around Mount Etna in never-ending holding patterns...

Six seems enough, two new airlines included, if nothing goes wrong.

@PH:

Quoting akhmad (Reply 2): Great pictures of Marrakech. And it seems that you have made a right choice to fly HV to ORY. It makes me want ot fly HV again sometime. It has been 8 years ago.

Thank you.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 2): How awful!

Absolutely.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 2): Somehow, the last row policy would not work for me. On my outbound VY flight to BCN, the whole last row was occupied.

You know, also not always for me, but sometimes at least.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 2): No Holland? Thank you for sharing. I really enjoyed it.

Thanx again and that´s indeed a good idea.

@Mark:

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 3): Good to read your return trip, looks like it was pretty decent. I like the look of the RAK terminal, at least from the outside, not sure why, looks kind of welcoming.

Thank you and indeed I was impressed about RAK terminal.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 3): - I tend to get that @ AMS, it's alway a guy touchingme, I'm quite happy to get a pad down from one of the younger girls

Me, too!.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 3): The interior of your F100 flight looked much better than the one I took to CDG last year, seems the interiors of these used birds don't match.

Another flight booked for early April, good to compare.

Greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)

Hi Markus,

Great report - having recently visited RAK myself, I was really looking forward to your report and your impressions.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter): Boarding started finally self service above the apron with nice photo opportunities

Yes, I liked that as well - walking to the plane and taking pictures without any problems.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter): F-GPXJ, the scheduled Fokker 100, delivered at 21.12.1990 to Lybian Arab Airlines, further at 01.12.1993 to Transwede, heading for the US register with Midway Airlines at 10.07.1995, back to good old Europe registered in the UK for Gill Airways at 19.03.1999, further on at 30.05.2003 to EU Jet and since 11.04.2006 in service with Brit Air.

Impressive - I like flying on planes that have a history.

I'm looking forward to your next reports.

Regards
Christoph

Hi Markus,

nice to read this report. First on Transavia France me thinks. Good to see the nice service you received. Seating design exactly same with the Dutch mainline Transavia.com, but the seatback top is round-shaped, where the PH-registered B737's are in usual 'block-shape'. I will check out the newer delivered B737's (PH-HSA/HSW/ZOM) when I get the chance. I have some more HV flights booked for this year, so we'll see...

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter): Well, I´ve vote for bodyscanners in any case, much better than here in RAK wehre all passengers searched personal and that grumpy old police guy touched me, where I dont want to be touched.

No way! Everytime I use them during work at AMS, I get the secondary bodycheck by hands. These machines don't work well yet.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 2): Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter): that grumpy old police guy touched me, where I dont want to be touched. How awful!

But what about a nice securityguy Suryo  

Brit Air is fine as well. Do I see a similar snack-bag as we get on LH domestic flights nowadays? Flying the F100 is fun, although they seem to have their problems right now. I won't be my first choice anymore to fly..., give me an Embraer 170/190 series everyday and I'll be fine with it.

Regards,
Eric

Hi Markus!

Great conclusion to this Morrocan adventure!

Transavia France looks nice except for the interior design......looks awful.......

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1): Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter): The cabin fitted with green blue fabric seats, legroom ok, but not that really clean Interesting seat design!

Understatment of the year!

Nice that you got to go on a F100 again!

Keep up the great work and look forward to your next trip!

The777Man

Hi Markus,

Good conclusion on your quick trip to Morocco, although don't you get bored at flying the same route at both directions?   At least the route and the carrier were different ones.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter): "What about changing to the last row", was my question, he answered, "Wait a second". He called his purser in the front and received the information that the complete last row was free for crew rest. He offered me 31 A and blocked all the other seats with the seat belts.

That's pretty good and friendly service. I guess it never hurts to ask.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter): And this all together for some 30.-- Euros, booked at TO´s homepage, not bad at all.

That's a bargain if ever. I've been looking for opportunities to fly the French and Danish variants of Transavia for a while now, but so far haven't come up with any solid plan.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter): The cabin fitted with green blue fabric seats, legroom ok, but not that really clean

Nice to see they have the same interesting seat design than the Dutch parent company. I kinda like it.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter): But on the other hand side very comfortable leather seats.

Looks nice.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter): So, if nothing goes wrong, the next report will be titled "Six circles around the Aetna".

Good luck, hope that the weather is nice and you get the same great approach as me in February!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 3): I tend to get that @ AMS, it's alway a guy touchingme, I'm quite happy to get a pad down from one of the younger girls

Mark, you should travel to Sweden some day. In true Swedish equalitarian spirit they have no gender regulations on security screenings - on more occasions than one I've been "handled" by a girl. Some nice and hot, some a little less so. But at this age I'm just happy to get any attention from younger females!  

Hi Flieger! Nice report. I flew on an AF F100 from CDG - STR in 2007 (par régional, not Brit Air though) which was used as a substitute for the regular A318. I was actually disappointed not to fly on the baby bus, but looking back at it, the Fokker is surely much less common than the Airbus, so good to have it logged...
The flight itself was very much like yours, friendly and pretty F/As in addition to a decent service (drinks, tuna sandwich).
Thanks for sharing.

[Edited 2010-03-16 02:30:27]

Hey Markus,
Nice end to your Moroccan trip and this months Moroccan theme.

Transavia look good I would like to try them sometime although no routes near me sadly. Nice pics and the seats on Brit Air look nice.

Look forward to the Bosnian trip with lots of photos.  


Regards

Philip

Hey, good to follow some more comments.

@Christoph:

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 5): Great report - having recently visited RAK myself, I was really looking forward to your report and your impressions.

Thank you and you know, I like your pictures also. So, what´s next to compare?.

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 5): Yes, I liked that as well - walking to the plane and taking pictures without any problems.

Especially with that nice weather at RAK

Quoting Contact Air (Reply 5): Impressive - I like flying on planes that have a history.

Another 100% agreement.

@Eric:

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 6): nice to read this report. First on Transavia France me thinks. Good to see the nice service you received. Seating design exactly same with the Dutch mainline Transavia.com, but the seatback top is round-shaped, where the PH-registered B737's are in usual 'block-shape'. I will check out the newer delivered B737's (PH-HSA/HSW/ZOM) when I get the chance. I have some more HV flights booked for this year, so we'll see...

Thank you and hope to see something more HV from you´re point of view.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 6): No way! Everytime I use them during work at AMS, I get the secondary bodycheck by hands. These machines don't work well yet.

Both together, thats not nice.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 6): Brit Air is fine as well. Do I see a similar snack-bag as we get on LH domestic flights nowadays? Flying the F100 is fun, although they seem to have their problems right now. I won't be my first choice anymore to fly..., give me an Embraer 170/190 series everyday and I'll be fine with it.

I know, but some more F70/100´s here booked.

@Lars:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 7): Great conclusion to this Morrocan adventure!

Thank you.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 7): Transavia France looks nice except for the interior design......looks awful.......

It doesn´t looks like that usual airline stuff, thats really true.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 7): Nice that you got to go on a F100 again! Keep up the great work and look forward to your next trip!

Thank you and if nothing goes wrong that will be next week.
I remember you stated FRA these days, hopefully also something to follow for us.

@P.:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 8): Good conclusion on your quick trip to Morocco, although don't you get bored at flying the same route at both directions? At least the route and the carrier were different ones.

Thank you and bored about flying the same route up and down, not till now!.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 8): That's pretty good and friendly service. I guess it never hurts to ask.

True words.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 8): That's a bargain if ever. I've been looking for opportunities to fly the French and Danish variants of Transavia for a while now, but so far haven't come up with any solid plan.

The danish variant sounds also interesting for me.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 8): Good luck, hope that the weather is nice and you get the same great approach as me in February!

Hope so, the weather looks not that bad till now.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 8): Mark, you should travel to Sweden some day. In true Swedish equalitarian spirit they have no gender regulations on security screenings - on more occasions than one I've been "handled" by a girl. Some nice and hot, some a little less so. But at this age I'm just happy to get any attention from younger females!

Ah, good to know, GOT on an MD80/B736 combination is in sight for late June.

@Luftfahrer:

Quoting Luftfahrer (Reply 9): Hi Flieger! Nice report. I flew on an AF F100 from CDG - STR in 2007 (par régional, not Brit Air though) which was used as a substitute for the regular A318. I was actually disappointed not to fly on the baby bus, but looking back at it, the Fokker is surely much less common than the Airbus, so good to have it logged... The flight itself was very much like yours, friendly and pretty F/As in addition to a decent service (drinks, tuna sandwich). Thanks for sharing.

Thank you and good to know you´re review about the AF sub F100´s.

@Phil:

Quoting oa260 (Reply 10): Nice end to your Moroccan trip and this months Moroccan theme.

Thank you.

Quoting oa260 (Reply 10): Transavia look good I would like to try them sometime although no routes near me sadly. Nice pics and the seats on Brit Air look nice.

Do it, not bad at all.

Quoting oa260 (Reply 10): Look forward to the Bosnian trip with lots of photos.

A couple of legs to go till Bosnia, but some hours there for pictures included.

Greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)

Hi Flieger

Nice report as expected  
I love the patterns on the green seat on the Transavia 738, really feels like summer!
Looking forward to your next episode,

Sultanils

Hello Markus! I have been very busy lately, and haven't been reading much TR's, but I see you definitely didn't cut down on flying! This really does make me want to fly the F100 myself! Nice to see HV France as well.

Keep up the good work,

Martijn

Hey, nice to follow that new comments.

@Sultanils:

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 12): Nice report as expected I love the patterns on the green seat on the Transavia 738, really feels like summer! Looking forward to your next episode,

Welcome here on A.net and thank you.
Indeed, HV looks something special, green as a summer impressions, warm welcomed.

@Martijn:

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 13): have been very busy lately, and haven't been reading much TR's, but I see you definitely didn't cut down on flying! This really does make me want to fly the F100 myself! Nice to see HV France as well. Keep up the good work,

Thank you, flying as much as possible during the spring months ahead.
And one more BritAir F100 soon.

Greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)

Hi Markus,

It seems 2010 is also becoming the year of the F100. Catch them whilst you can! The seats on Britair look nice and new and it seems that boarding last paid off as you got your window seat. It's quite unusual for you to use the same route on both legs, but great that you still managed to combine different airlines and aircraft.

Nice shot from your hotel of the early morning light.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter): Well, I´ve vote for bodyscanners in any case, much better than here in RAK wehre all passengers searched personal and that grumpy old police guy touched me, where I dont want to be touched.

Poor you. Yet I feel it'll be sometime before they get bodyscanners in RAK!

Great that you got a row of seats to yourself on Transavia. If you don't ask, you don't get. Seats are a bit garish though. They could do with a bit of a makeover  

Happy flying
Infodesk

Hey, Hannah,

really nice to read you´re feedback.

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 15): It seems 2010 is also becoming the year of the F100. Catch them whilst you can!

For sure, I will do so.

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 15): Poor you. Yet I feel it'll be sometime before they get bodyscanners in RAK!

So it seems, more search-by-hand ahead.

Quoting Infodesk (Reply 15): Great that you got a row of seats to yourself on Transavia. If you don't ask, you don't get.

Indeed, it works not every time, but sometimes it works really well.

Best wishes,
Markus (FLIEGER67)

Hi Markus,

Very interesting report once again. Really nice photos!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter): all passengers searched personal and that grumpy old police guy touched me, where I dont want to be touched.

That's just horrible.


The service you received was great! How nice of them to do that.

Good to see another F100. Nice to see a free snack on the flight.

Looking forward to seeing your next adventure!

Regards,
Nicholas

Hey, Nicholas,

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 17): Very interesting report once again. Really nice photos!

Thank you.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 17): That's just horrible.

Absolutely.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 17): The service you received was great! How nice of them to do that. Good to see another F100. Nice to see a free snack on the flight. Looking forward to seeing your next adventure!

I was really impressed with both airlines and the next story is still on short finals.

Greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)

Hi Markus,

Fantastic trip report again, well done. It's nice to see something else like Transavia France covered in a trip report.  

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter): The cabin fitted with dark grey comfortable leather seats, clean good legroom.

I like those seats, looks like they are the same as in the Cityjet Avro RJ's.

Hey, Jeroen,

Quoting BasilFawlty (Reply 19): Fantastic trip report again, well done. It's nice to see something else like Transavia France covered in a trip report.

and thank you. Not that much here posted about TO lately, one of the reasons for this combination.

Quoting BasilFawlty (Reply 19): I like those seats, looks like they are the same as in the Cityjet Avro RJ's.

And really comfortable.

Greetings,
Markus (FLIEGER67)