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TAM Brasil JJ 8020: 03/FEB/10: POA-EZE: J Cabin

Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:50 am

Feedback always appreciated.




I > Background:
My friend lives in Porto Alegre (or, the “other Brasil” as I call it) and I made a quick weekend to see him after visiting clients in Buenos Aires.

There are surprisingly few TR’s of TAM – this is becoming common of newer Star carriers it seems! Anyways, I believe this will be the first review of TAM’s regional J product; the first on the POA-EZE sector; and, the first featuring POA.

II > Pre-Flight:

a) Before Airport:
TAM Airlines is the biggest Brazilian airline and is headquartered in the city of São Paulo. Besides an extensive domestic operation, it has a growing international presence spanning to key markets in the Americas and Europe. It is supposed to be part of Star Alliance in 2011.

I bought my ticket on TAM’s website at www.tam.com.br. It is a well-designed site which is neatly laid out and easy to use. However, it still has some ways before becoming a world class site. Several of the areas reverted back to Portuguese as I navigated around it. However, the booking engine was relatively seamless and I enjoyed the ability to choose my seat. I could also view my itinerary … but not modify it or change my seat assignment.

b) At Airport:
After a fun crazy weekend in the “other Brasil”, I was ready to head back to BA. My friend dropped me at the rather calm Porto Alegre airport (the entire city seems to be obsessed with blue tinted glass) and I was the only one at the J class counter. The check-in agent was amused by my Liechtenstein passport and had to check TIMS several times before deeming me fit to fly to Argentina. She was super sweet and complied with my seat request and told me the flight load. Security did not open until 45 minutes prior to boarding and then immigration was quick. At POA, after immigration, there is basically one international gate with a little café and a little shop. So even the 40 minutes or so seemed long. Oh, there was no lounge access at POA. J class boarding was done first and I was welcomed on board by 2 flight attendants. They came by to offer water. Interestingly, they were not particularly chatty and there was no personalized welcome by name or anything.

J load was around 50%.

>Airport - External:

(Porto Alegre airport)
Check-in:



Airport - Internal:
(Internal)


(FIDS)


(Post Security @ POA’s only international gate)


Scenes of the tarmac:

NONE



Lounge

NONE

Boarding:



III> In-Flight:

a) Service Schedule + Impressions:
Soon after take-off, service commenced with the skimpiest hot (more like luke warm) towel. Menu cards were distributed and orders taken. Shockingly, in what has to be a rare thing … amenity kits were distributed! I mean, this is a less than 2 hour day-time flight! Interesting. Finally, meal service.

b) Aircraft + Seats:
TAM’s 320 looked smart outside and inside in the red corporate colors. The plush leather seats were extremely comfortable and perfect for the trip length. Recline was definitely average … though, seat legroom was rather modest. Bathroom amenities were almost absent in the J class cabin.

Aircraft:

(320 @ POA; photo courtesy as noted)

Views from Aircraft:


(POA)

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General Seat Views + Seat Legroom
(Seat controls)


(J Bulkhead seat)


(Blanket provided)


Seat Recline + Angle View:


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Cabin:



(Bathroom Amenities)

c) Meal + Beverage:
For this flight, meal service consisted of lunch consisting of either salmon or pasta. For the lack of menu choices, I found the actual menu way too elaborate and unnecessary. TAM would be better served if they saved the money on this printing and improved the actual quality of the meal. I chose the salmon in black tea crust and it turned out to be nasty. I have eaten better “TV dinner” meals before! Accompanying the salmon was some mashed potatoes and vegetables … and I could not figure out if this was part of the meal itself or the combined appetizer and main. The flight attendants were clueless! A.Netters, what do you think? The saving grace of the meal service was the rather rich “ganache pie” served with nice juicy berry sauce. However, as soon as I had enjoyed the pie, I was left with a disappointing finalé which arrived in the shape of probably the crappiest black water (passed off as a café) I had encountered in a LONG time.

The entire affair could have been saved if TAM actually cared about the catering. I mean, instead of spending money on designing a fancy menu, how about focus on the food itself?

Beverage options of alcohol and non-alcoholic drinks were adequate for a flight of this stage length.

(Menu)

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(Lunch service)

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d) Inflight Entertainment:
IFE consisted of some unmemorable TV programs that kept on playing on loop on the several TV monitors across the cabin. This was complimented by an average in-flight magazine.

(“In-flight magazines”, Boarding Passes, etc. – These Brasilian “grocery receipt” type boarding passes need to go!)
e) Crew:
Unremarkable. I think this is the best way to describe the JJ crew. They existed to do the basic duties such as greet passengers, distribute menu cards, take orders, do the meal service, respond to call buttons, and I am sure act in case of an emergency. However, I don’t think any of them stood out. They did not go beyond the call of duty and I did not see much of smiles or warmth.

IV> Post-Flight:
Arrival in Buenos Aires was fairly easy ... though, as usual, immigration took forever @ EZE. It is amazing that while the departure area of Ezeiza looks OK, the arrival area (and, many people’s first impression of Argentina) is so shoddy.


V> Impressions + Scores:
TAM was able to provide a stress-free way of getting me from Porto Alegre to Buenos Aires. In a continent where reliable airlines have been hard to find, TAM is going to succeed just because it can do the basics right. Just like LAN, it has developed a profitable model and has succeeded because it has not been challenged. As airlines such as Azul grow, I am convinced TAM needs to up their game. While everything was “good enough”, nothing was spectacular. Both the hard product and the soft product can be improved ... with the crew showing genuine warmth; a better set of IFE; and definitely better meal service.

To get you from point A to B, I’d recommend TAM. However, it would never have my strict loyalty when booking a flight and price and schedule would play a major role. A big thumps sideways ... hehe.




VI> Other Trip Reports:

PREMIUM:
8.66: Brussels Airlines (93): FIH-BRU: 01/2010
8.64: Turkish Airlines (59): JFK-IST: 11/2008
8.63: Jet Airways (88): JFK-BRU: 10/2009
8.61: Air Canada (49): YYZ-SCL: 06/2008
8.54: Turkish Airlines (77): GRU-DKR-IST: 04/2009
8.30: Jet Airways (74): KWI-BOM: 04/2009
8.23: United Airlines (72): SFO-SYD: 03/2009
8.11: Aeroflot (33): MOW-DEL: 09/2007
8.05: Air India (80): CCU-JFK: 06/2009
8.04: Korean Air (40): NRT-ICN: 10/2007
8.02: Delta Airlines (24): JFK-CDG: 08/2007
7.64: Royal Jordanian (91): AMM-YUL: 12/2009
7.46: LAN (55): YYZ-JFK: 09/2008
7.82: Singapore Airlines (06): EWR-SIN: 09/2006
7.25: Iran Air (88): BOM-IKA: 12/2009
7.23: Virgin Atlantic (81): BOS-LHR: 07/2009
7.14: Swiss (52): SCL-GRU: 06/2008
7.11: Austrian (79): VIE-JFK: 06/2009
7.07: Privatair (84): BOM-FRA: 08/2009
7.02: Qatar (68): DOH-JFK: 01/2009
6.96: Etihad (61): JFK-AUH: 12/2008
6.93: Delta Airlines (18): SEA-JFK: 11/2006
6.84: ConViasa (65): CCS-DAM: 01/2009
6.81: Air Canada (17): ICN-YYZ: 10/2006
6.70: KLM (32): EBB-AMS: 08/2007
6.36: Privatair (60): MUC-BOS: 12/2008
6.29: TAM Brasil (96): POA-EZE: 01/2010
6.25: Korean Air (45): NAN-ICN: 10/2007
6.21: Iberia (87): BOS-MAD: 10/2009
6.11: TAP Portugal (53): GRU-OPO: 06/2008
6.00: Gulf Air (75): BOM-BAH: 04/2009
5.88: African Express (89): DXB-NBO: 11/2009
5.75: Singapore Airlines (16): CCU-SIN: 10/2006
5.64: NorthWest (46): ICN-NRT-SEA: 10/2007
5.54: Ethiopian Airlines (95): ADD-BOM: 01/2010
5.46: Icelandair (83): KEF-BOS: 08/2009
5.39: LOT (54): WAW-JFK: 06/2008
5.21: Egypt Air (73): CAI-IST: 02/2009
5.07: TACA (66): JFK-SAP: 01/2009
4.42: Air France: CDG-JNB (25): 08/2007

ECONOMY: Long + Medium:
9.26: Air India (48): JFK-DEL: 02/2008
7.38: Avianca (01): BOG-LIM: 07/2006
7.07: Sri Lankan (62): KWI-CMB: 12/2008
7.00: LAN (94): IPC-SCL: 01/2010
6.41: Avianca (78): JFK-BOG: 05/2009
6.41: American Airlines (58): LHR-BOS: 11/2008
6.39: Condor (85): SEZ-FRA: 09/2009
6.26: Jet Blue (21): CUN-JFK: 02/2007
6.06: Air Canada (04): YYZ-YVR: 09/2006
5.89: USA 3000 (19): PUJ-BDL: 01/2007
5.85: Spanair (69): MAD-LPA: 02/2009
5.79: Air New Zealand (42): RAR-NAN: 10/2007
5.52: Aerolineas (86): USH-AEP: 10/2009
5.46: TAP Air Portugal (23): OSL-LIS: 05/2007
5.19: Air Europa (70): LPA-MAD: 02/2009
5.16: Iberia (71): MAD-BOS: 02/2009
5.11: Air China (82): FRA-PEK: 08/2009

ECONOMY: Short
8.56: Paramount Airways (38): BLR-MAA: 09/2007
8.56: Kingfisher (64): HYD-CCU: 12/2008
8.24: Kingfisher (14): IXA-GAU: 10/2006
7.87: Indian (34): BOM-MAA: 09/2007
7.72: Alliance Air (13): CCU-IXA: 10/2006
7.57: Indian Airlines (10): DEL-CCU: 09/2006
7.23: West Jet (03): YYC-YVR: 09/2006
7.15: JetLite (37): BOM-GOI: 09/2007
6.70: Spice Jet (09): CCU-DEL: 09/2006
6.63: Air Fiji (44): NAN-SUV: 10/2007
6.63: Jazeera (67): DAM-KWI: 01/2009
6.58: Air Tran (02): EWR-MDW: 08/2006
6.48: Air India Express (63): CMB-MAA: 12/2008
6.44: CO Micronesia (39): ROR-YAP: 10/2007
6.41: Pacific Sun (43): NAN-SUV: 10/2007
6.37: Skybus (47): SWF-CMH: 02/2008
6.33: Kenya Airways (29): NBO-BJM: 08/2007
6.33: Sky Europe (56): LTN-BTS: 10/2008
6.31: Indigo (15): GAU-CCU: 10/2006
6.31: easyJet (57): BUD-LTN: 11/2008
6.22: Air Link Swazi (28): MTS-JNB: 08/2007
6.22: Air India (36): HYD-BOM: 09/2007
6.13: Adam Air (07): SIN-CGK: 09/2006
6.13: Air Rarotonga (41): RAR-AIT: 10/2007
6.00: Transairways (27): INH-MPM: 08/2007
5.95: Air Canada (05): ALB-YYZ: 09/2006
5.85: SAS Norge (22): OSL-AES: 05/2007
5.81: LAM Mozambique (26): JNB-MPM: 08/2007
5.69: Air Deccan (12): IXZ-CCU: 10/2006
5.67: Rwanda Air Exp (30): KGL-NBO: 08/2007
5.37: Felix Airways (92): SCT-SAH: 12/2009
5.11: Aero Republica (76): BOG-CCS: 04/2009
5.07: Go Air (35): MAA-HYD: 09/2007
5.00: Sky Airline (51): IQQ-SCL: 06/2008
4.96: Valuair (08): CGK-SIN: 09/2006
4.78: Air Comet Chile (50): SCL-IQQ: 06/2008
4.74: Fly 540 (31): MYD-LAU: 08/2007
4.33: Viva Aerobus (20): ELP-MTY: 02/2007
4.11: Air Sahara (11): CCU-BOM: 09/2006

(Note on Codes: Y – Economy, J – Business, F – First :: I/D – International/Domestic :: SR/MR/LR – Short/Medium/Long Haul)
(Note on Date: Dates are modified to be +/- 3 days from actual flight date to not reveal actual flight pattern)

VII> Other Pictures:
(Not only was the amenity kit surprising, it was also rich in content)

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RE: TAM Brasil JJ 8020: 03/FEB/10: POA-EZE: J Cabin

Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:41 am

Hi A.,

another interesting report about a carrier which can't be found very often here.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
There are surprisingly few TR’s of TAM – this is becoming common of newer Star carriers it seems!

Star Alliance is simply growing too fast...  
Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
The plush leather seats were extremely comfortable and perfect for the trip length.

They look really comfortable.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
I chose the salmon in black tea crust and it turned out to be nasty. I have eaten better “TV dinner” meals before! Accompanying the salmon was some mashed potatoes and vegetables … and I could not figure out if this was part of the meal itself or the combined appetizer and main. The flight attendants were clueless! A.Netters, what do you think? The saving grace of the meal service was the rather rich “ganache pie” served with nice juicy berry sauce. However, as soon as I had enjoyed the pie, I was left with a disappointing finalé which arrived in the shape of probably the crappiest black water (passed off as a café) I had encountered in a LONG time.

Sounds very bad. The presentation is quite poor, too.


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RE: TAM Brasil JJ 8020: 03/FEB/10: POA-EZE: J Cabin

Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:37 am

Hi Alex!

Another great trip report from with very nice pictures including local airlines at POA.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Menu cards were distributed and orders taken

Very nice menu card! Too bad the meal wasn't very good.......

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Shockingly, in what has to be a rare thing … amenity kits were distributed!

Amazing with amenity kit for such a short flight and it looks really nice too!

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
. I chose the salmon in black tea crust and it turned out to be nasty. I have eaten better “TV dinner” meals before! Accompanying the salmon was some mashed potatoes and vegetables … and I could not figure out if this was part of the meal itself or the combined appetizer and main

That's really bad.......Perhaps it's just the local catering at POA ? How do you compare this to other flights by JJ ? I/m sure you probably even flown JJ on intercontinental flights ?

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RE: TAM Brasil JJ 8020: 03/FEB/10: POA-EZE: J Cabin

Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:30 pm

Hi Alex,

Nice to see how the transcontinental J service of JJ looks like. The amenity kit on a minus 2 hour flight is simply a nice touch. The menu card design looks great with detailled information about the cook.

Pity that other things like lounge access, main course and coffee serving and the toilet amenities did not live up to expectations.

Interesting J seat design. A bit Concorde like.

Thanks for sharing.

Cheers,
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RE: TAM Brasil JJ 8020: 03/FEB/10: POA-EZE: J Cabin

Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:33 pm

Hi Alex,

Great TR as per usual, the seats looked quite comfortable as mentioned and legroom looked rather generous. It's rather a shame that the food wasn't up to scratch especially as the menu looks very good.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
The check-in agent was amused by my Liechtenstein passport and had to check TIMS several times before deeming me fit to fly to Argentina

I'm surprised she wasn't amused with the amount of stamps inside your passport??!!

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Interestingly, they were not particularly chatty and there was no personalized welcome by name or anything.

The last time this happened to me when flying in Business Class was with BIMAN Bangladesh Airlines and the less I say about the crew on that flight the better. They made the crew on your flight seem top notch! LOL!

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RE: TAM Brasil JJ 8020: 03/FEB/10: POA-EZE: J Cabin

Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:11 pm

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
another interesting report about a carrier which can't be found very often here.

= That is what I try to do from most of my reports.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Star Alliance is simply growing too fast...

= I think so ... but, perhaps I am flying the lesser known members of Star (SN) or ones joining soon (JJ, ET).

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
They look really comfortable.

= It was.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 2):
Very nice menu card! Too bad the meal wasn't very good.......

= Yup.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 2):
Amazing with amenity kit for such a short flight and it looks really nice too!

= I know ... considering how many "top" airlines do not even have amenity kit on their transcontinental J class daytime flights. A little unnecessary though ...

Quoting The777Man (Reply 2):
How do you compare this to other flights by JJ ? I/m sure you probably even flown JJ on intercontinental flights ?

= I have usually had VERY good experience on JJ in J. Perhaps, this is why I was so surprised at the "blah" nature of the flight. Usually, their service is better than LAN's.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 3):
Interesting J seat design. A bit Concorde like.

= Suryo, I wish the Concorde seats had that much width  .

Quoting AI151 (Reply 4):
I'm surprised she wasn't amused with the amount of stamps inside your passport??!!

= Those reactions are saved for the immigration officers  .

Quoting AI151 (Reply 4):
The last time this happened to me when flying in Business Class was with BIMAN Bangladesh Airlines and the less I say about the crew on that flight the better. They made the crew on your flight seem top notch! LOL!

= I have a BIMAN report coming up soon ... their crew is quite something!

Saludos,
A.
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RE: TAM Brasil JJ 8020: 03/FEB/10: POA-EZE: J Cabin

Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:47 pm

Hi Alex,

Another great report, thanks for travelling and posting!

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
There are surprisingly few TR’s of TAM

- Indeed true & interesting as I am actually considering them for a trip to South America next year.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Shockingly, in what has to be a rare thing … amenity kits were distributed! I mean, this is a less than 2 hour day-time flight! Interesting

- That's amazing and the contents are better than the ones I get on BA & QR longhaul flights!

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
The entire affair could have been saved if TAM actually cared about the catering. I mean, instead of spending money on designing a fancy menu, how about focus on the food itself?

- The menu's look impressive, well though out, the meal itself from the picture looks poor.

Shame about the coffee, haveing drunk many cups of decent coffee in Portugal, I'd expect the same in Brazil and on TAM.

On the plus side, seats looked like a decent place to spend some time.

Looking forward to the Bimen TR!

Cheers

Mark
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RE: TAM Brasil JJ 8020: 03/FEB/10: POA-EZE: J Cabin

Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:48 pm

Hello, Alex,

interesting and detailed story.

It´s not my part of the world to travel as a frequent traveller, but nevertheless interesting to read about
TAM and POA.
The meal looks indeed, also for me, not that inviting.

Greetings,
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Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:29 am

Another great trip report.
TAM's flight attendants are there to look pretty. Like alot of Latin American carriers the flight attendants apply for the job to see the world and view the job as glamorous, but they seem to forget they are there for customer service. But if there is something they do well is look very good, while at EZE last May I saw a bunch of them parading through the duty free shops and the female flight attendants looked very smart in their stylish uniforms.
I share your sentiments on the immigrations hall at EZE, it needs a facelift ASAP- it looks like something from the 60's as a matter of fact half the airport looks like this. Such a beautiful city and country, but the first impression you get is not the best. However, the immigrations officers on duty the morning I arrived were quite speedy. 3 long haul flights had arrived within a couple of minutes of each other, all intercontinental widebodies and we were out in less than 20 minutes. I just showed my passport and voila- hola Argentina.

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RE: TAM Brasil JJ 8020: 03/FEB/10: POA-EZE: J Cabin

Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:59 am

I wonder why you chose JJ over AR, which also flies EZE-POA  
Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
While everything was “good enough”, nothing was spectacular.

I got to agree on that. I have flown JJ quite a few times on the EZE-GRU-EZE route (both C and Y) and their product was very consistent, although it lacked of something - don't ask me why, but I always thought they tried their best to be spectacular, but no matter how hard, something was always missing.

These kind of things make me miss RG a lot. Varig was Latin America's closest try to a world-class airline.

Saludos,
Marambio

[Edited 2010-04-07 20:04:08]

[Edited 2010-04-07 20:04:50]
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RE: TAM Brasil JJ 8020: 03/FEB/10: POA-EZE: J Cabin

Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:21 pm

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 6):
- Indeed true & interesting as I am actually considering them for a trip to South America next year.

= Where are you planning to visit? Come to Venezuela ... one of the best kept secrets in the continent. I will show you the best beaches in the area (Los Roques) and give you a memorable drive through the Gran Sabana! And if I am not here, you can use my car and flat. CCS has some really good nightlife  .

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 6):
- That's amazing and the contents are better than the ones I get on BA & QR longhaul flights!

= Isn't it amazing? Puts things into perspective!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 6):
Shame about the coffee, haveing drunk many cups of decent coffee in Portugal, I'd expect the same in Brazil and on TAM.

= Brasil has EXCELLENT coffee ... hence the TAM experience was more disappointing.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 7):
It´s not my part of the world to travel as a frequent traveller, but nevertheless interesting to read about
TAM and POA.

= Markus, POA is actually a fun city to pass through ... and since they get zero tourists, you'll be amazed at the treatment you get.

Quoting chepos (Reply 8):
Like alot of Latin American carriers the flight attendants apply for the job to see the world and view the job as glamorous, but they seem to forget they are there for customer service.

= Sadly this is true. What bothers me is that so many FA's in many of the Latin carriers are from our very non-existant middle-class ... and, they find it beneath them to serve their fellow countrywomen who work as laborers elsewhere.

Quoting chepos (Reply 8):
I share your sentiments on the immigrations hall at EZE, it needs a facelift ASAP- it looks like something from the 60's as a matter of fact half the airport looks like this. Such a beautiful city and country, but the first impression you get is not the best. However, the immigrations officers on duty the morning I arrived were quite speedy. 3 long haul flights had arrived within a couple of minutes of each other, all intercontinental widebodies and we were out in less than 20 minutes. I just showed my passport and voila- hola Argentina.

= Personally, the people at EZE are great. I find Argentinians extremely helpful in general and staff at EZE are no different. I recently had a AR woman walk me from one end to the other as I looked for the hidden transfer counter (next to gate 4 I think). Very sweet.

Quoting Marambio (Reply 9):
I wonder why you chose JJ over AR, which also flies EZE-POA

= AR flight was in the evening ... I had to arrive in EZE, have a meeting, and then fly to SCL for work.

Quoting Marambio (Reply 9):
don't ask me why, but I always thought they tried their best to be spectacular, but no matter how hard, something was always missing.

= Agreed.

Quoting Marambio (Reply 9):
These kind of things make me miss RG a lot. Varig was Latin America's closest try to a world-class airline.

= Call me nostalgic ... but I also find AR service to be actually very good once they get off the ground. I have usually had tremendously good AR crew and prefer them to the robots that are all over LA.

Saludos,
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RE: TAM Brasil JJ 8020: 03/FEB/10: POA-EZE: J Cabin

Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:36 pm

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 10):
Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 6):
- Indeed true & interesting as I am actually considering them for a trip to South America next year.

= Where are you planning to visit? Come to Venezuela ... one of the best kept secrets in the continent. I will show you the best beaches in the area (Los Roques) and give you a memorable drive through the Gran Sabana! And if I am not here, you can use my car and flat. CCS has some really good nightlife

- Very kind of you Alex!  

Rough plans at the moment are spotting in Brazil and perhaps Columbia, early days so plans could change, I'll let you know.

Best Wishes

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RE: TAM Brasil JJ 8020: 03/FEB/10: POA-EZE: J Cabin

Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:02 am

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 11):
- Very kind of you Alex!

Rough plans at the moment are spotting in Brazil and perhaps Columbia, early days so plans could change, I'll let you know.

Best Wishes

Mark

= Mark, keep me posted ... but remember, there are some fantastic itineraries to keep your spotting needs and your wife's general sight-seeing desires fulfilled by combining NE Brasil and linking with Venezuela and Guyana/Suriname.

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RE: TAM Brasil JJ 8020: 03/FEB/10: POA-EZE: J Cabin

Sat Apr 10, 2010 5:05 am

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 12):
= Mark, keep me posted ... but remember, there are some fantastic itineraries to keep your spotting needs and your wife's general sight-seeing desires fulfilled by combining NE Brasil and linking with Venezuela and Guyana/Suriname.

- Alex, wife is staying at home to look after Fred (the dog), this is a pure flying and spotting jolly  

Cheers

Mark
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