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BA Up To A Snowy Glasgow

Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:19 pm

BA up to a snowy Glasgow, with a change of flights and delay

Not long after my return to the UK from Turkey and Georgia, I started to go into the usual panic that normally sets in if I have no future flights booked. I had actually already booked some flights to Far Eastern Russia for mid-December (First and Business class with Asiana from London-Khabarovsk/Yuzhno Sakhalinsk) for a scandalously low number of bmi miles, but regrettably ended up canceling as other commitments popped up. Also, Russian visas – what a hassle. As such, I turned to Expedia, and investigated my options. I qualified for BA Silver in August, and as I fear I won’t be able to requalify this year, I felt it my duty to get all the benefits out of BA whilst I could. My search was limited to BA, flying out of LHR (as I wanted to see what the other Galleries lounge there was like, having only been to the South lounge before). I ended up settling on a trip up to Glasgow, somewhere I’d never been before, and with a great choice of flights (around 16 flights a day to LHR, LGW and LCY). Thanks to Trip Advisor, I found a very nice little hotel, and I booked it.

Not long after booking, the earliest snows in nearly two decades descended on the UK, causing chaos. Thankfully, by the time my flights came around, things seemed to be running ok. I was a bit worried the day before I left as an unexpected snow storm closed both GLA and EDI, and basically shut the entire country. Weather forecasts for my trip duration, were, however, clear and cold – perfect for flying.

I left home, where the snow had vanished, and was replaced with a heavy frost.

I took the train into London, then changed at Kings Cross onto the tube. An hour later, I was in Terminal 5.
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I decided that I would try out the new iPhone app, and use that for my boarding pass. Of course, I still went to a desk and asked for a cardboard boarding pass for my collection. I asked the lady which of the lounges (North or South) was busier/bigger/better for my flight. She said to use to North lounge, as it would be closer to my gate, and that the South lounge was more for long haul flights. From there I headed to security. Annoyingly, the fast track queue was only for checking the boarding passes, and not for the actual security check. Thankfully, the queues weren’t long. The lady was quite shocked when I got to the front of the queue and she DIDN’T have to ask me to take off my belt, shoes, etc etc. Why is there not a proper fast track? Very frustrating being stuck with all the first time fliers.

The next hassle was getting to the lounge. From the Southern security checks to the lounge is around 20 metres. However, you have to walk 50 m, go down an escalator, walk back 200 m, go up two escalators before you can finally reach the entrance. Grrrr. Why didn’t BA make it easier for their lounge eligible customers? Suppose it keeps the less committed lounge visitors out?

The South lounge was busy near the entrance, but I made my way to the far end, and settled myself with a large Grey Goose, and some curry and snacks, along with a view of the security checks that I had just left.
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An a hour or so before the flight, I decided to head over to the North lounge, to see what that was like. Compared to the South lounge, it was packed. It took a good 5 minuets to find a seat. The seat I did find, though, had a great view (not as good as the bmi lounge in Terminal 1).
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The BA lounge bathrooms


Thankfully, my stay in the lounge was fairly short, and before long I headed to the gate, where boarding was already underway.
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December 2010
London Heathrow (LHR) – Glasgow (GLA)
Scheduled: 1400-1525 (1h25m)
Actual: 1435-1537 (1h02m)
British Airways BA 1484
Airbus A320 (G-俄UYF)

This was my first flight on one of the newer BA Airbus aircraft (delivered in Jan this year), not featuring the convertible seating. The cabin seemed new and fresh, and the seat pitch in row two was great. When boarding was completed, the captain came on saying that Glasgow was subject to space restrictions on the tarmac, and so we would have to taxi to a remote ramp to wait for GLA to say we could leave.
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The first of BA’s B777-300s
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Thankfully, our delay was short, and we ended up taking off just over half an hour late. We overtook a QR B77W, which had been sitting at the end of the runway for a while, and an EK A380.
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Not long after the seatbelt signs came off, did the cabin crew swing into action. I ordered a G&T, which was delivered with a packet of cheese biscuits. Acceptable for a short flight.
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The views changed from a frosty Southern England, to a heavily snow covered Northern England and Scotland.
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A few views from the moving map
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Around twenty minutes before we eventually landed, the captain came on again saying that visibility at GLA had gone down from 5km to just 900m, and so arrivals were being delayed. He then informed everyone that they shouldn’t worry as we had enough fuel to hold for six hours! The cabin immediately erupted in whispers, most of which were along the lines of “I hope we don’t have to hold for 6 hours”. Can anyone comment of the validity of his statement? Would a LHR-GLA flight be loaded with up to 7 hours fuel?
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Not long after that announcement, the captain came on again, saying that we should be landing in then next ten minutes. Phew! Not long after, we did land, with some atmospheric fog clinging to the ground.
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As previously mentioned, GLA was pretty full, and we had to wait around twenty minutes for the previous LHR flight to leave the gate so we could disembark. During the wait, I got some lovely shots of sunset. Ground temperature was announced as -10C, a good 15C less than LHR when we left

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The delayed EK B77W to DXB
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I thought GLA had a nice feel to it, no doubt helped by the ample windows showing a gorgeous snow-covered busy ramp.
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Arrivals
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I took the No.500 bus into the city, then walked to my hotel near the Botanical Gardens.
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Here are a few shots of Glasgow in the snow:
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A bridge over the Clyde
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I wouldn’t fancy driving down this in the ice


The Cathedral – definitely one of the most spectacular I’ve been into – def worth a visit


Museum of Modern Art
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An extremely tasty smoked haddock at Balthazar’s


City Halls
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Around 3pm I took the bus back to GLA.
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I headed to the nearly deserted BA check in desks. I tried to get one of the machines to issue me with a boarding pass, but they weren’t accepting my Executive Club card, so went to the bag drop desk and had one printed out there.
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FIDS


From there, I went upstairs to the screening area. My bag was pulled aside “as there was a suspicious object” which turned out to be a book. They said it was an unusual shape…..I decided not to ask what shape books in Scotland were.

I headed though the shopping area, and watched as the LGW flight left….
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…and the LCY flight arrived
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The check in area from departures (note the snow on the glass roof)


Lots of FlyBE
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The bmi lounge


The very delayed 1235 BA flight to LHR taking off
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I then headed to the lounge.


December 2010
Glasgow (GLA) – London Heathrow (LHR)
Scheduled: 1715-1840 (1h25m)
British Airways BA 1493
Airbus A321

The lounge had a very cosy feel to it, with big picture windows offering great views of the snowy tarmac.
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The lounge was, however, pretty small. There was a group of uniformed Army guys, heading off to Afghanistan. They had obviously told to stay off the booze, so were going through cans of Fanta and Coke like there was no tomorrow (which I suppose for them might have been true). They were pretty noisy, but most cracking jokes. Looking around the lounge, most people seemed to be smiling to themselves listening. The drinks selection was pretty good. Snacks were on par with Heathrow, although lacking any proper food.
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As I was settling into my second G&T, I was paged to the front desk. I was asked if I would like to change to the 1605 to LHR. As I had a good seat on the 1715, and a comfy seat in the lounge, I declined. I wasn’t in a rush. After sitting back down, I decided to see whether I could get a seat on the 1615 LCY flight instead. I love Embraers, and believe that LCY onboard service is slightly better than LHR. LCY isn’t as convenient as LHR for me, but I would be adding a route to my flightmemory map. The lady on the desk said it wasn’t a problem, and printed me a boarding card. The only problem, boarding was already underway, so I had to leave the lounge.

December 2010
Glasgow (GLA) – London City (LCY)
Scheduled: 1615-1740 (1h25m)
Actual: 1937-2026 (0h49m)
British Airways BA 8727
Embraer E190SR (G-LCYM)

I was the final passenger to board, just after a couple of off duty crew. I was sat near the back, with the previous 8 rows completely empty. I was sequence number 36, so a 36% load. Still, there were quite a few people sitting squashed up next to each other at the front. The aircraft was clean, and the seats comfortabloe, having only been delivered in May this year.
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The captain came on, and welcomed us aboard, and said that we were awaiting some paperwork to be signed. We waited and waited, then waited some more.

I was hoping for a departure still during the daylight for some more views; alas, it was not to happen.
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Twenty minutes after boarding, water and orange juice were served. You wouldn’t had got that on a late LHR flight!
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Twenty minutes after that, out came the cheese biscuits again. I also requested a G&T. the FA looked warily down the cabin, the whispered that they weren’t meant to serve alcohol on the ground, but when to get me one anyway, although without any of the giveaway signs!


The BA lounge as seen from the plane.
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An hour after scheduled departure, we were deiced – off we go?
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Fifteen minutes later, we pushed back, and taxied to the runway, ironically directly behind the 1715 to LHR that I had got off earlier.

The force is strong
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Tarmac
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A Loganair Twotter
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A Thomas Cook B767 with winglets
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We sat at the end of the runway. The captain came on saying that an emergency light had come on in the cockpit, unconnected to the earlier problem, and that we would have to go back to the gate. Oh dear.
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Two hours and 6 minutes after scheduled departure, we were back at the gate, and another snack had been served, this time a cereal bar.

The crew came through the cabin informing everyone that there were still seats on the 1935 LHR service if you wanted a change. I asked what the chances were of the flight being cancelled, and the FA said he didn’t know. I was secretly hoping for a cancellation, and then to be put up in a hotel, mainly so I could get the EU compensation money. Interestingly, the purser then timed out, so one of the off duty cabin crew took here place. When I asked about this later, I was told that she had been on since 9am.

It seemed apt to take a photo of this at this point!


As a member of crew passed, I asked for another G&T – it arrived not long after.
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Half an hour later, one of the off duty crew had joined in serving drinks on request, so I got another G&T.

Fifteen minutes after that, the problem was finally resolved, and we headed off back to the runway. We passed a PK A310 on route for Lahore. Finally three and a half hours after boarding, we took off. Thankfully, the entire time I was kept fed and watered (or more actually, biscuited and G&Ted), and had the Scottish Daily Mail for entertainment. I wasn’t in a rush, so was not unhappy with the delay. I imagine I was probably the only one though. Interestingly, of the four GLA-LCY flights that day, mine was only the second worst delayed, with two other being delayed around 4 hours. Not great on time stats for this route today! The captain announced the flight time at an hour and a quarter.
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The bright strobe
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Once the seatbelt signs were turned off, the cabin lights came on, and the crew started their drinks run. Given the light load (a few pax took up the 1935 LHR offer), the service was completed very quickly. Without even asking, doubles of everything were given.
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Shortly before the seatbelt sign was switched on again, I requested one further G&T. the FA asked me how much I had had. My response of “a couple” was deemed worthy of another drink, which was served just as we started our approach.
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We touched down finally 2 hours 46 minutes late. Thankfully, I was not in a rush, so the whole evening was fairly pleasant – unlimited free drinks in a nice warm cabin, with tarmac views and an engrossing tabloid! I can think or many far less enjoyable evenings.
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We disembarked, and walked a rather circuitous route to the arrivals area. In just a few minutes, I was on a DLR heading into the city.
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I felt BA offered a very good service. Being the only carrier now on the competitive London-Scotland route still serving free snacks/drinks, BA can hold it’s head up high. Staff were all very good, and accommodating of requests. Lounges were pretty good, although LHR T5 North is way too busy – looks like they need to expand, or make a new lounge. The delay in Glasgow would have been extremely frustrating if you were in a rush. Changing from a later flight (BA’s idea) only to end up leaving hours after it would have been infuriating to most. Thankfully to me, if wasn’t a problem at all. And the crew on the delayed LCY flight were excellent. I imagine having the last flight of the day extended from one to nearly 4 hours of service made for a bad evening for them – still, it didn’t show in the service.

And as for Glasgow, what a nice city. The snow and freezing temperatures made for an interesting trip – hopefully I’ll get back there soonish, in more mellow weather.

My next flights are next week – I found a deal on Monarch flying from Luton to Gibraltar for just over GBP 50 return – not bad!
http://my.flightmemory.com/shefgab Upcoming flights: LGW-OPO-LGW,LHR-FCO-CTA-LIN-LCY,LHR-AMS-GRQ-SEN,LTN-CPH-LHR-ORD
 
AlwaysOnAPlane
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RE: BA Up To A Snowy Glasgow

Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:22 pm

Wow, i absolutely loved your pictures from the trip North and the scenes at GLA were like something from the North Pole  .
Interesting to see how you got on as i had my own problems around this time. Your pictures of T5 brought back some memories for sure.

Just an aside: Would you be entitled to the EU compensation if the delay is weather related? As i understand it this not to the the case but im happy to be corrected (as in, if so i qualify for it)

Cheers, Lee
 
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RE: BA Up To A Snowy Glasgow

Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:10 pm

Great report, good pictures too -)

Did they tell you what the problem was that made the light on the dashboard come on?
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RE: BA Up To A Snowy Glasgow

Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:38 pm

Hi GC,

Really enjoyed your report.

I finally made it up to EDI this week, last weeks trip was cancelled as EDI was closed, though only flound out when I got to T5 security @ 5am!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Why is there not a proper fast track? Very frustrating being stuck with all the first time fliers.

- It's hit am miss, 3 weeks ago no queue at all, last week a huge queue inc passengers with babies in prams!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I decided to head over to the North lounge, to see what that was like. Compared to the South lounge, it was packed.

- North lounge is much smaller than the South so feels busier, however it is closer to the domestic gates.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The lounge had a very cosy feel to it, with big picture windows offering great views of the snowy tarmac.

- Nice, shame the BA lounge in EDI lacks this, no views at all.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Twenty minutes after boarding, water and orange juice were served. You wouldn’t had got that on a late LHR flight!

- Not wrong!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Twenty minutes after that, out came the cheese biscuits again. I also requested a G&T. the FA looked warily down the cabin, the whispered that they weren’t meant to serve alcohol on the ground, but when to get me one anyway, although without any of the giveaway signs

- Great FA!

Good stuff, and good to see you took the extra delays on LCYM in your stride.

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RE: BA Up To A Snowy Glasgow

Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:27 pm

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 1):
Wow, i absolutely loved your pictures from the trip North and the scenes at GLA were like something from the North Pole .

Thanks!

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 1):
Interesting to see how you got on as i had my own problems around this time.

Yeah, I was fearing the worst, what with GLA and EDI being shut most of the preceeeding week, but everything worked out well in the end.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 1):
Would you be entitled to the EU compensation if the delay is weather related?

Don't know, although as far as I know, the delay on the LCY flight was mechanical, not weather.

Quoting LX138 (Reply 2):
Great report, good pictures too -)

Thanks!

Quoting LX138 (Reply 2):

Did they tell you what the problem was that made the light on the dashboard come on?

Nope

Quoting LX138 (Reply 2):
Really enjoyed your report.

Thanks!

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 3):
I finally made it up to EDI this week, last weeks trip was cancelled as EDI was closed, though only flound out when I got to T5 security @ 5am!

How annoying!

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 3):
Great FA!

Yeah, they were good. It was funny, with my first 2 G&Ts (served by different FA each time), they both said that they weren't meant to be serving alcohol, so looked down the cabin to see where their colleague was, then told me not to tell the other!
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RE: BA Up To A Snowy Glasgow

Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:27 pm

It was a pleasure to read this - guessing by the arrival screens, you landed in GLA on the day I failed to fly out to BFS on U2. The 07:00 departure eventually departed at around 15:00, which was no use for my day trip.

It's also great to read about the BA experience - I'm steadfastly loyal to BMI and the Star Alliance (it's those amazing value miles that you mentioned!) so it's interesting to read about the experience from LHR and to LCY, especially as you can watch three distinct fleets serving those three routes from the BA end of the domestic terminal.

Hope you enjoyed your stay in Glasgow; it's not normally that cold in December!
 
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RE: BA Up To A Snowy Glasgow

Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:56 am

Nice trip report, I like the sunset pictures that have been taken in GLA.
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RE: BA Up To A Snowy Glasgow

Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:32 am

Hey Gabrielchew!

what a good read! I'm happy your Scottish trip went on well, at least better than mine. Still, I wonder how snow can bring Britain to the standstill I've experienced up there. And I thought Italians were unprepared, especially in large towns of the Po valley, but that's remarkable nonetheless.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I started to go into the usual panic that normally sets in if I have no future flights booked.

Oh, how I understand. I think it's a sort of illness, we should call it the Airnutter syndrome, and ask our National Health Services to consider those affected eligible for State-paid cures, i.e. more flights!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
From there, I went upstairs to the screening area. My bag was pulled aside “as there was a suspicious object” which turned out to be a book. They said it was an unusual shape…..I decided not to ask what shape books in Scotland were.

You decided wisely, better not to joke with security staff. Once, when I was leaving Sweden with my dad, it was 2002 and everyone was bonkers with airport security, the Arlanda staff found that my on-board baggage contained a compasses, the sort of thing you'd expect to use at technical drawing lessons (as I did). The officer said he was to confiscate the steel point you use to hold firm the compasses on paper as you draw circles. I had the ill-omened idea to joke about it, saying that a pair of compasses hardly was a chainsaw and that particolar point had troubles cutting paper, let alone human bodies. The good folks of Arlanda didn't find it funny and gave me some looks which they must have learned from KGBs runaways during the Cold War...

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The force is strong

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RE: BA Up To A Snowy Glasgow

Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:33 am

Quoting jamesontheroad (Reply 5):
It was a pleasure to read this - guessing by the arrival screens, you landed in GLA on the day I failed to fly out to BFS on U2. The 07:00 departure eventually departed at around 15:00, which was no use for my day trip.

Thats a shame - hope it wasn't anything too important?

Quoting jamesontheroad (Reply 5):
It's also great to read about the BA experience - I'm steadfastly loyal to BMI and the Star Alliance (it's those amazing value miles that you mentioned!) so it's interesting to read about the experience from LHR and to LCY, especially as you can watch three distinct fleets serving those three routes from the BA end of the domestic terminal.

I like the little extras, so the free food and drinks on BA wins me over. Also, I get lounge access with BA. Ironically, if I fly out of LHR T1 with Lufthansa (or OS/LX/LO) I can use the BD lounge, but not when flying BD.

Quoting jamesontheroad (Reply 5):
Hope you enjoyed your stay in Glasgow

Yes, it was good, hopefully will be back sometime in the future.

Quoting jamesontheroad (Reply 5):
Nice trip report, I like the sunset pictures that have been taken in GLA.

Thanks, I was very happy with those photos.
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RE: BA Up To A Snowy Glasgow

Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:53 am

Hi Gabriel

An enjoyable saturday morning read,

despite the late, you seem had a pleasant flight,

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
He then informed everyone that they shouldn’t worry as we had enough fuel to hold for six hours!

As you said, it's hard to know if it was a good or bad news  
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
although lacking any proper food.

too bad indeed, in another hand consider the length and type of the flight.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Scheduled: 1615-1740 (1h25m)
Actual: 1937-2026 (0h49m)

my brother transiting at LHR to EDI begin of Dec had experienced a similar delay

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The force is strong

ah nice, good catch   

btw same comment as MSS658, the sunset at GLA is beautiful.

thanks for posting

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RE: BA Up To A Snowy Glasgow

Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:23 am

Nice report ! Also amazing to see how much snow Scotland has had so far this winter. Nice that you got the E190 for your return flight too - the 170/190 is my favourite aircraft at the moment for sure! Notwithstanding the delay, looks like you had a good time in GLA. Thanks for posting this. P/jet
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Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:37 am

How was the Galleries lounge at T5? I'm going to London next week, and going back 22 December, in Club. I hope the drinks such as cola are free   Nice trip report by the way :P
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RE: BA Up To A Snowy Glasgow

Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:23 pm

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 9):
An enjoyable saturday morning read,

Glad you enjoyed it

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 9):
As you said, it's hard to know if it was a good or bad news

I think a 6 hour hold would have been a bit trying.

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 10):
Nice that you got the E190 for your return flight too - the 170/190 is my favourite aircraft at the moment for sure!

Yeah, the 170/190 are really nice aircraft, esp compared to other 2x2 seaters like the horrible CRJ.

Quoting TBloemink (Reply 11):
How was the Galleries lounge at T5? I'm going to London next week, and going back 22 December, in Club. I hope the drinks such as cola are free

Head straight to the South lounge, unless you are in a rush, and have a flight departing from the North end. If you go to the far right hand side when you go in, that seems to be the quietest place, although I think better views are had from the right hand side. And yes, the coke is free!
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RE: BA Up To A Snowy Glasgow

Sun Dec 12, 2010 1:45 am

Great report with some excellent humour! Being served frequent complimentary G&T's doesn't sound too bad an evening to me either!
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Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:30 am

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 12):
Head straight to the South lounge, unless you are in a rush, and have a flight departing from the North end. If you go to the far right hand side when you go in, that seems to be the quietest place, although I think better views are had from the right hand side. And yes, the coke is free!

I already thought the coke was free :P Thanks  
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RE: BA Up To A Snowy Glasgow

Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:31 pm

Hey great snowy/Xmas feel report  

I love Glasgow as a city . I also like the BA lounge in GLA some nice views. I still didnt try out the BA T5 lounges, must do that sometime.

A really nice short trip , sometimes they are the best  

Thanks for the report.

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RE: BA Up To A Snowy Glasgow

Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:36 pm

Quoting A340600 (Reply 13):
Great report with some excellent humour! Being served frequent complimentary G&T's doesn't sound too bad an evening to me either!

Thanks! The continuous G&Ts made the evening very plesant!

Quoting oa260 (Reply 15):
I also like the BA lounge in GLA some nice views.

Yeah, it's a nice little lounge. Better views than the BD lounge.

Quoting JL418 (Reply 7):

Oh, how I understand. I think it's a sort of illness, we should call it the Airnutter syndrome, and ask our National Health Services to consider those affected eligible for State-paid cures, i.e. more flights!

Somehow I don't think that the NHS will pay for me to fly around!
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RE: BA Up To A Snowy Glasgow

Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:09 pm

Hi Gab,

Wow, what a difference between your photos of Glasgow and my trip there just barely a month previously! Back then it was the usual UK late autumn weather, gray, not too cold and wet, but now you had this winter wonderland all around you! Looks very beautiful in places, I especially like the atmospheric airport photos with the low hanging sun painting the sky red.

Sounds like BA did take very good care of you on the messy day of your return, glad they managed to keep you well into your GTs and of course scoring an unexpected E-jet ride to LCY is a nice surprise.
 
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RE: BA Up To A Snowy Glasgow

Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:08 am

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 17):
Wow, what a difference between your photos of Glasgow and my trip there just barely a month previously! Back then it was the usual UK late autumn weather, gray, not too cold and wet, but now you had this winter wonderland all around you! Looks very beautiful in places, I especially like the atmospheric airport photos with the low hanging sun painting the sky red.

Yeah, the weather's been pretty crazy over the past month. I was pretty lucky with the weather - provided some good photo ops.
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RE: BA Up To A Snowy Glasgow

Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:11 am

Hi Gabriel,

Yet another interesting read and no doubt I was glad to see that you weren't affected by the snow that much, although I'm sure a bit of EU compensation money would have gone down well towards another trip?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Not long after my return to the UK from Turkey and Georgia, I started to go into the usual panic that normally sets in if I have no future flights booked.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks that way!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I ended up settling on a trip up to Glasgow, somewhere I’d never been before, and with a great choice of flights (around 16 flights a day to LHR, LGW and LCY).

If I had known you were travelling, I would have come along as I've never been to Glasgow either.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I wouldn’t fancy driving down this in the ice

That would be so much fun though. Get the ski's on and slide down the road.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
They said it was an unusual shape…..I decided not to ask what shape books in Scotland were.

I highly doubt that they would have been impressed with that question! LOL!

Looking forward to read about your Monarch flights if you write a TR.

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RE: BA Up To A Snowy Glasgow

Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:36 pm

Hello(!),

Just to say many thanks for the report and pics etc. Have also flown up to Glasgow from London with British Airways a couple of times as their fares on the route are usually quite cheap. Whenever I've flown up in the morning they usually serve a full hot breakfast on the flight which is great. Interesting that you got to fly on an Embraer EJet on the way back and glad the delay wasn't too much inconvenience. Thanks also for the pictures of Glasgow, it's a city I also like and is great for a day or couple of days trip from London.

Many thanks,

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RE: BA Up To A Snowy Glasgow

Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:10 pm

Wow nice TR!!! Glasgow looks so beautiful covered in snow. I really need to go to Scotland one day!!!

The BA lounge bathroom looks soo cool  

Well done!

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RE: BA Up To A Snowy Glasgow

Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:18 pm

Quoting AI151 (Reply 19):
Yet another interesting read and no doubt I was glad to see that you weren't affected by the snow that much, although I'm sure a bit of EU compensation money would have gone down well towards another trip?

Yeah, the EU comp would have been nice

Quoting AI151 (Reply 19):

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks that way!

Thankfully, just after getting back from GIBQuoting AI151 (Reply 19):

If I had known you were travelling, I would have come along as I've never been to Glasgow either.

Well, I'll let you know when I;m next flying around the UK

Quoting AI151 (Reply 19):

Looking forward to read about your Monarch flights if you write a TR.

A report is coming (slowly)

Quoting Ps76 (Reply 20):
Just to say many thanks for the report and pics etc.

No problem!

Quoting Ps76 (Reply 20):
Thanks also for the pictures of Glasgow, it's a city I also like and is great for a day or couple of days trip from London.

Yeah, it's a nice short trip

Quoting Ps76 (Reply 20):
Whenever I've flown up in the morning they usually serve a full hot breakfast on the flight which is great.

Can't beat BA for domestic service in Europe

Quoting JFKMan (Reply 21):

The BA lounge bathroom looks soo cool

Yeah, they're nice, although when soap squirted over my jumper - I think I pushed it too hard
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RE: BA Up To A Snowy Glasgow

Sun Dec 26, 2010 12:20 am

Super report with some great shots of a snowy GLA as well as the city. My old home has been having a bad winter so far. Glad you managed to get in and out without too much trouble.

It's made me homesick seeing those pictures.  
 
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RE: BA Up To A Snowy Glasgow

Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:57 pm

A lovely report with great pictures. Thanks for the entertainment - glad you enjoyed your trip!
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RE: BA Up To A Snowy Glasgow

Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:52 pm

Nice trip report, looks like we really missed a bad season this year compared to your report from 2010.

I can answer your question about the lounge. First and Concorde card holders can go thru the double doors just after south security, however everyone else has to go down thru Duty free to get to the lounge. BAA charge BA a lot of money (remember BA only rent the terminal) for first and Concorde card holders to be allowed to miss going thru duty free and have direct access to the lounge. The cost is said to be how much BAA loose (or could loose) in duty free sales from These premium paying customers.
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RE: BA Up To A Snowy Glasgow

Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:38 pm

Hi Gabriel..

Backcataloguing here a little as I was away last year and missed the big freeze. You gave a stunning incite into it!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Also, Russian visas – what a hassle.

Hmmmmm . . .

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
We overtook a QR B77W, which had been sitting at the end of the runway for a while, and an EK A380.

Impressive. I take it special priority is given to them given domestic flights limited window of opportunity. Great to see wee airbuses overtake these monsters.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The delayed EK B77W to DXB

Gosh. She barely ever leaves in the dark. Now . . . a little earlier where some stunning photos of sunset at GLA. It looks like Scandinavia. Brilliant stuff - any chance you could e-mail me a co[y of these. They're great.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
. I also requested a G&T. the FA looked warily down the cabin, the whispered that they weren’t meant to serve alcohol on the ground, but when to get me one anyway, although without any of the giveaway signs!

Well. This is the challenge. FA's will always be cautious. I consider I have not drank enough if they do not at least question me. Good to see the passion burning strong for the G&Ts!

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RE: BA Up To A Snowy Glasgow

Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:38 pm

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 3):
Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 26):

BA do not have a licence to provide alcohol on the ground. By serving alcohol this member of staff could have been sacked leading to a fine for both herself/himself as well as the company. I'm sure you were unaware of this however I would urge you not to put crew in this position in the future.

Whilst it may be pleasant for you to have an alcoholic drink before take-off it isn't worth loosing someone there livelihood.

I'm glad you were looked after with other refreshments whilst on the ground, which is what should be done as instructed by any Purser worth their salt.
 
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RE: BA Up To A Snowy Glasgow

Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:56 pm

Thanks for the comments (and for giving the thread a new lease of life!)

Quoting comeflywithme (Reply 23):
Super report with some great shots of a snowy GLA as well as the city

Thanks!

Quoting comeflywithme (Reply 23):
Glad you managed to get in and out without too much trouble.

Yeah, I think I was quite lucky with my timing

Quoting comeflywithme (Reply 23):
It's made me homesick seeing those pictures.

You're not HIDDY are you by any chance?

Quoting NDiesel (Reply 24):
A lovely report with great pictures.

Thanks!

Quoting lhr380 (Reply 25):
Nice trip report, looks like we really missed a bad season this year compared to your report from 2010.

Yeah, hardly any snow this year - very dissapointing

Quoting lhr380 (Reply 25):
I can answer your question about the lounge. First and Concorde card holders can go thru the double doors just after south security, however everyone else has to go down thru Duty free to get to the lounge. BAA charge BA a lot of money (remember BA only rent the terminal) for first and Concorde card holders to be allowed to miss going thru duty free and have direct access to the lounge. The cost is said to be how much BAA loose (or could loose) in duty free sales from These premium paying customers.
Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 26):
You gave a stunning incite into it!

Of course, it's all about $$$$$$$!

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 26):
Now . . . a little earlier where some stunning photos of sunset at GLA. It looks like Scandinavia. Brilliant stuff - any chance you could e-mail me a co[y of these. They're great.

Thanks. PM me your email, and I'll send them over.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 26):
Good to see the passion burning strong for the G&Ts!

The perfect drink to fly with

Quoting baexecutive (Reply 27):
BA do not have a licence to provide alcohol on the ground. By serving alcohol this member of staff could have been sacked leading to a fine for both herself/himself as well as the company. I'm sure you were unaware of this however I would urge you not to put crew in this position in the future.
Whilst it may be pleasant for you to have an alcoholic drink before take-off it isn't worth loosing someone there livelihood.

Well, I never forced anyone to do anything. I request a drink, and was given one. If they were honestly worried about loosing their job, they could have said no because...blah blah blah. An hour or two into the delay and all the crew were openly serving booze, which is why the later photos show the bottle and can.
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