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Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:55 pm

Four small engines to Lviv/Ukraine

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Zdrastujte, dear readers,

originally booked for the weekend are daytrips to Austria and France.
Some two weeks ahead, Mr. S. from the scheduling department approached me somewhat excited.
He saw a very good offer by Miles and More to the Ukraine, 10000 miles and some taxes only.
I´ve never been to the Ukraine before.
More interesting is the fact that Lviv airport is in major renovation works and therefore only small planes are permitted to operate. That is usually the basic scenery for high fares, what is the actual standard there.
Well, S. consulted C. from the controlling department and soon thereafter we receive three greens, as long as we cash back the taxes.
Hotels are also not that expensive for the night from Saturday to Sunday, so the whole thing is quickly booked.

This is the map with the actual departure airports


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Returned late last night from the UK

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and now I should set the heading to go the eastern way.

Saturday, 18.06.2011

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Lviv International Airport

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Service Lufthansa LH 2550 operated by Lufthansa CityLine
Scheduled: 09.25 // 12.15


5000 miles and 55.00 Euro´s taxes per leg, this is acceptable so far to fly out from Munich today.
Some two hours to go by car usually, but you never know, so the cell phone alarm is set for 03.00 am, after a short night.
On the road at 04.00 am.
Traffic is ok and finally at the designated low cost parking deck P81 at 06.30 am. The fare is 25.00 Euro´s, ok so far.
Only deck 6 and 7 are open for the public, all the other
decks are reserved.
A couple of covered meters now to walk till the suburban train station, where the ride to the terminal is included in the parking fee.
The next train approached soon. I´am impressed how many of LH employees used also this way to store the car´s and reach the terminal. The train station is in Terminal 1, more meters to go for the Lufthansa Terminal 2.
It´s the weekend now, but S. from the scheduling department decides to follow my adventure anyway.
Comfy armchair, specially imported Ukrainian Medowucha, Vodka with honey, produced by Majska, on the table. Aside Wareniki, local filled pastry, so everything is set for an enjoyable weekend.
OLCI, whenever possible, seat 18A for me, the last row window, it´s one of the few rows with two seats only.
A view from above to the biz counters, not that much action this Saturday morning, or maybe the action is located at the eco counters
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Now that´s a stylish bavarian restaurant
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Three friendly female agents and me at the Senator Star Alliance Gold desks to send my bag for the airport tunnels, see you soon!.
There is a special entrance to the security checks directly from the Senator desks, well done here Lufthansa.
No one in front and through in seconds.
Time enough to go for the Senator lounge now, just around the corner from the entrance
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The bar, everything what you want is served by nice staff
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Self service buffet
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My second breakfast
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Only a couple of customers around, it seems I´am pretty well ahead to the first departure wave
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Comfy seaters
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Relax chairs
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That´s the way to spend the time, surfing A.net reports
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So, here we go from gate H24
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I am really impressed to see that huge number of passengers around here, it seems LH doing well at MUC.
Ready ontime for boarding at the gate.
A bus is waiting downstairs, so it seems we´re doing the apron tour.
That´s the way, but not to the usual regional parking spots, just around the terminal to the other side.
Ah, this is the scheduled Avro RJ 85, D-AVRN, in service with Lufthansa Cityline since 12.09.1996.
14 examples are in the active fleet.
Leg no. 7 on type, it´s a new entry to my log and I´am in a good mood with this type today while the last flight is close to 300 legs ago
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It seems the first day with rain around my latest travels, joke!.
Therefore no apron pics, only some shorty´s from the bus like this nose detail
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Cockpit crew is from Germany, the captain with a short welcome during boarding.
09.35 am, ten minutes late, is the time to leave the European Union, 15 degrees, 1 hour 30 minutes for the Ukraine.
26L or 4000 meters beton, that´s fairly enough to go from MUC now.
The magic moment when you leave the clouds, how I love it
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Contrails, some other planes around
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Cabin view, that feels somewhat oldfashioned here.
The load is 100%, good biz for LH today
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Bright grey leather seaters, well used.
Legroom is ok in the second to last row, the aisle is also taken
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Cabin crew is two female FA´s, one middle aged, biz friendly to say the least, one young and nice.
The safety card
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My personal IFE and the LH cake served with free drinks
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Weather looks like better eastern side
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Hazy on approach. The captain is short again on the mike, but less detailed. No route or flightlevel information
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Some thunderstorms along the route.
Not that long to go for Lviv, the approach is once again from the shaky party, heavy to say the least
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A very hard touchdown with superheavy braking action at the shortened, 1630 meters concrete runway 13, it´s 12.10 local, short prior to schedule, 11.10 am in Germany. Warm with 26 degrees and partly cloudy.
Renovation works, it seems that´s really needed here with these runway
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A thousand of planes at the apron
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Modern style bus transfer
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The young captain is at the planes door during disembarking, he´s a cool looking guy with his pilot sunglasses.
Bye now, D-AVRN
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Wait, there are some more passengers
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Well, that building in the back looks interesting
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Believe it or not, this is the terminal
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Thanx god, it´s nice weather while queueing outside the small door, no more pictures with police protecting us or maybe the apron, who knows.
I´am at the end of the line, as usual and now that´s a really nice welcome to this country.
A young woman travelling with her mother in front and soon we´ve done a nice chat.
She is born in Lviv, but is now based in Munich for work.
We talked about life in Ukraine and what to do here in Lviv till we reached some small cabins with the officers.
He only want to see my hotel reservation and soon I was stamped, or better my passport receives another stamp and I´am allowed to enter the country.
There is no baggage belt, so you pick you´re suitcase up, walk along a grumpy old man, it seems the customs officer and reach the public area of the so called terminal.
Now, S. sitting relaxed in his comfy armchair, slurping from his icecold vodka and want to see a couple of location pictures. But first, where I want to stay this night and
how to reach the hotel from the airport?.
Well, I dont want to loose that much time and it´s Saturday early afternoon by now.
Sure, there is a public bus service but you need to change busses till the old town.
I´ve send a mail to the hotel about the best way and they offered me a personal ride with the hotels own car. The fare is less than 10.00 Euro´s, well gladly accepted.
The driver is waiting for me and soon thereafter I´am on the way. Catching some first impressions about the extremely secured driving style and the really well maintained roads here, irony out!.


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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:57 pm

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That´s the hotel, the Reikartz Medievale, located in the old town close to the main place
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The lobby
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The restaurant
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My well done room
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Modern equipment and warm welcomed, free Wifi.
The fare is 65.00 Euro´s, sure ok
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The main place, Rynok
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And the city hall
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Arts at every corner
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Traffic on finals
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Beautiful young and old closeby
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The latin cathedral
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Everything is in walking distance.
One of the thousand churches
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Along the city wall
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And the arsenal
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Historic buildings
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Strange taxis
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The book market
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Refurbished and soon to refurbish houses closeby
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Is it only me or it feels like from one of these cold war James Bond movies
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Is this Russia?
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Around the main place
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The entrance to the Armenian church
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The sign at the entrance
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The garden
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The entrance from the rear side
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Flowers on the balcony
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Another soon to refurbish building beside the hotel
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That´s a tyre killer road
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But this cars are used to this kind of streets
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Public transport Ukrainian style
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If there are problems with you´re cellphone, take this one
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Historic house details
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The Dominikan church
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No I´am not interested in soviet style cars
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The black house
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The main square
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I was really lucky with the weather that Saturday afternoon and evening, warm and dry.
Historic houses, goodlooking churches and also well, people!.
They had a dance show on the main place, really interesting, so finally I had a pleasant day in Lviv, a recommendable city.


Sunday, 19.06.2011


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Lviv International Airport

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Service Lufthansa LH 2551 operated by Lufthansa Cityline
Scheduled: 12.55 // 13.50


I´am on the way for the included hotel breakfast early Sunday morning. Original intention was, to take a couple more pictures, but the weather changed and it´s raining steadily.
S., from the scheduling department is also again in his comfy chair, well, Vodka that Sunday morning, not my taste, to follow me on the way back to MUC.
The fare is again 5000 miles and 55.00 Euro´s taxes.
Well, anyway time to go to the airport.
The hotel arranged my taxi transfer, a pretty oldfashioned Skoda, but it works.
This should be the airport, surrounded by houses and industrial estates
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Like a train station, isn´t it?
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The main entrance
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And a view the other way around
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Check-In for LH is in a small building beside the main terminal. It´s not a real counter there, more like a kind of scale, where you place you´re bag.
Seat selection is done online from my mobile the night before. The last row is taken, therefore 16A, the second to last row, but it´s also a two seater.
My question for the secured seat is ok, boarding pass printed and with nothing else to do on the way through the single security station.
Now that´s airside where you find nothing else than a couple of different style seats, second hand lookalike. A small but anyway closed shop and a couple of pax waiting for the same flight like me, so it seems.
That looks like BT on the apron and what´s that on approach from the left hand side?
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This is the door to the apron from the extended, joke, waiting building, no seats, concrete floor, no lounge here.
Gate 4, sorry where are the other 3?
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BT and LH closeby on the apron
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Boarding now, again by bus
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That looks also nice
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So, that´s what an airport in the former soviet union
with the historic fuel truck looked like 40 years ago
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Boarding now
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Engine close up
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No problems as long as you go the secret way.
D-AVRA, another Avro RJ 85 should bring me to MUC. Leg no. 8 on type, one more new registration for the log.
In service with LH Cityline since 18.11.1994.
1 pm, close to ontime, 16 degrees, wet after rain here, 1 hour 35 minutes for MUC.
UTAir inbound from Russia
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And BT is leased by Ukraine International to operate during the runway works
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Cockpit crew is from Germany, the captain with a short welcome during boarding.
Departure from runway 31, LCY style, engines spooled up. The plane rattling and shaking around and soon we´re in the clouds again.
Cabin crew is one young nice male and one middle aged female, less interested to say the least.
She´s also serving my row and that´s one of the very few examples when LH served something with meat, there is nothing else for me on offer without it.
Clouds ahead in direction west, nothing else expected
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The FO is on the mike with detailed informations. Cruise level is 32000 feet above Krakow and south of Prague.
The actual LH magazine
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And another safety card
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Legroom is ok here. The same bright grey leather seats.
The load is again 100%
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The well used cabin again with an oldfashioned feeling for me
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Coming in to MUC on the 4000 meters 26R, 1.45 pm, close to ontime, pretty nice weather, joke, 12 degrees, cloudy and rain.
Now that´s summer in Germany.
Parked on the usual regional apron at MUC
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Bye D-AVRA
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By bus to the terminal. My bag is quickly on the belt, priority helps and the same way back to my car.
Two more hours on the motorway and finally back home for a couple of days on the biz road.
S. send me some compliments immediatelly!.

This trip to the Ukraine was a real pleasant surprise, a nice city, mostly nice people, beside that alcohol addicts, but these guy´s are not only around in the Ukraine. Two flights on not that well covered material in my log.

And further on?.
S. booked a couple of flights, five to substantiate it. The mission is to catch a new departure airport in Norway.
Some lounging, an upgrade and an A.netter joint flight on the last leg, coming up soon, you know.

Buwajte,
comments are really welcomed, I´am glad to stay in contact with all you readers out there, so let me know
if there are any questions.

FLIEGER67 or Markus Klaus Felger, that´s also the way Facebook know´s me!.
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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:20 pm

Hi Markus!

Another great tripreport, I like the pics of Lviv.

I was lucky enough to fly the Avro 85 on a flight with Malmö Aviation, I was expecting an Avro 100 since they have 10 of those, but only 2 85's. Cabin was worn on that example too, like the two LH birds featured in your report.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
My well done room

Looks really nice.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
Like a train station, isn´t it?

Yeah, it sure isn't looking like an Airport.

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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:34 pm

Hi Markus,

good to see your Ukraine report, that country doesn't show up here frequently. I also considered going to Ukraine for a weekend in August, but I didn't find interesting flight options, so I booked the trip to Egypt.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Traffic is ok and finally at the designated low cost parking deck P81 at 06.30 am. The fare is 25.00 Euro´s, ok so far.
Only deck 6 and 7 are open for the public, all the other
decks are reserved.

That's where I always leave my car, it's a great facility. And btw, nothing will happen if you park on the other decks.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The train station is in Terminal 1, more meters to go for the Lufthansa Terminal 2.

Actually you arrive in the Zentalbereich right in the middle between the terminals. Due to the different layout of the terminals you reach the T2 check-in area faster than most T1 check-in areas from the S-Bahn. It's just too bad that there is no tunnel connection to T2.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The load is 100%, good biz for LH today

Well, the question is how many people have used 10,000 miles for the flight.  

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
My personal IFE and the LH cake served with free drinks

That was all?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
She´s also serving my row and that´s one of the very few examples when LH served something with meat, there is nothing else for me on offer without it.

Did they hand out sandwiches or trays with meals?


PH
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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:43 pm

Hi, good to see some comments.


@Martin:

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 2):

Another great tripreport, I like the pics of Lviv.

Thank you.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 2):
was lucky enough to fly the Avro 85 on a flight with Malmö Aviation, I was expecting an Avro 100 since they have 10 of those, but only 2 85's. Cabin was worn on that example too, like the two LH birds featured in your report.

Also booked here but cancelled in July due to biz reasons, try to do it again.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 2):
Looks really nice

A real nice surprise.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 2):
eah, it sure isn't looking like an Airport.

Exactly my opinion.


@PH:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
good to see your Ukraine report, that country doesn't show up here frequently. I also considered going to Ukraine for a weekend in August, but I didn't find interesting flight options, so I booked the trip to Egypt.

Thank you and Egypt, you know, also interesting.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
That's where I always leave my car, it's a great facility. And btw, nothing will happen if you park on the other decks.

Good to know.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):
Actually you arrive in the Zentalbereich right in the middle between the terminals. Due to the different layout of the terminals you reach the T2 check-in area faster than most T1 check-in areas from the S-Bahn. It's just too bad that there is no tunnel connection to T2.

I remember a good walk lately, arrival on AB departure on KF.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):

Well, the question is how many people have used 10,000 miles for the flight.

Good point.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):

That was all?

Free drinks, the usual style, but nothing else to eat.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 3):

Did they hand out sandwiches or trays with meals?

Sandwiches only, I remember the small ones.

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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:55 pm

Hi Markus,

What a pleasant surprise to see your weekend trip to Lviv popping up. Judging on your excellent pictures, Lviv is immersed in somewhat mysterious atmosphere. Something like the attraction of the undiscovered. Great job of S. to get you there!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
A view from above to the biz counters

Ah, nice memories again from last year!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
There is a special entrance to the security checks directly from the Senator desks, well done here Lufthansa

Way to go!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
My second breakfast

You do not need to lose weight.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
A very hard touchdown with superheavy braking action at the shortened, 1630 meters concrete runway 13

I thought 1630 meter runway would be more than enough for RJ85.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
no more pictures with police protecting us or maybe the apron, who knows.

Wise decision.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
My well done room

Very nice. By the way, did you buy your suitcase from Lufthansa?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
it feels like from one of these cold war James Bond movies

How did it feel being James Bond?   


Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
That´s a tyre killer road

4WD is the solution.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
S., from the scheduling department is also again in his comfy chair, well, Vodka that Sunday morning, not my taste, to follow me on the way back to MUC.

I would not be surprised if S. did not sleep at all previously.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
Like a train station, isn´t it?
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
So, that´s what an airport in the former soviet union
with the historic fuel truck looked like 40 years ago

OMG, I thought it was just another Lviv’s historical city buildings, but no, it was a terminal building!


Excellent report. This happens to be my most favorite of yours. Thank you for sharing.

Best wishes,
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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:21 pm

Hoi, Suryo,

Quoting akhmad (Reply 5):
What a pleasant surprise to see your weekend trip to Lviv popping up. Judging on your excellent pictures, Lviv is immersed in somewhat mysterious atmosphere. Something like the attraction of the undiscovered. Great job of S. to get you there!

Thanx a lot for you´re warm welcomed reply. Sure, Lviv is not a real well known place here.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 5):

Ah, nice memories again from last year!

I remember you´re MUC connection.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 5):
Way to go!

Exactly me.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 5):
You do not need to lose weight.

More the other way around.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 5):
I thought 1630 meter runway would be more than enough for RJ85.

Sure, but it seems the pilot want to go the secure way.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 5):
Wise decision.

Especially in such countries.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 5):

Very nice. By the way, did you buy your suitcase from Lufthansa?

It´s originally from Rimowa, years ago.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 5):

How did it feel being James Bond?

Very special.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 5):
4WD is the solution.

That´s it, definitely.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 5):

I would not be surprised if S. did not sleep at all previously.

Good point.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 5):
OMG, I thought it was just another Lviv’s historical city buildings, but no, it was a terminal building!

Me, too, I wont believe it.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 5):


Excellent report. This happens to be my most favorite of yours. Thank you for sharing.

Thanx again, Suryo, warm welcomed, you know.

Greetings,
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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:31 pm

Hi Markus!

Very nice report with nice pictures!

CL's Avro looks the same as when I flew on D-AVRB in 1995 HAM-ARN.....still looks good!

Nice cake on the flight there!

Lviv looks very nice ! Good choice for a weekend trip! Too bad you did not add another carrier to get there but at least you flew on some new registrations!

I love the airport in Lviv! Very old-style looking !

Looking forward to your next reprot!

The777Man

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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:35 pm

Hi Markus,

interesting trip report, there aren't too many reports about Lviv around here, so great to read about it. And with some very nice pictures.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The bar, everything what you want is served by nice staff

That lounge really looks great. And you only get some bread and water  
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Believe it or not, this is the terminal
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
So, that´s what an airport in the former soviet union
with the historic fuel truck looked like 40 years ago

Wow, what an interesting building, certainly doesn't look like an airport.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
Modern equipment and warm welcomed, free Wifi.
The fare is 65.00 Euro´s, sure ok

That's a really good price, and the room as well looks very comfortable.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
I had a pleasant day in Lviv, a recommendable city.

Judging from your pictures I have to agree. I have never been to Ukraine before but your report really wants me to go there as well. Is it easy to get around there with English?

Thanks again for this report, and also say hello to Mr. S and Mr. C, they seem to do a good job there in keeping you flying and bringing us some interesting reports  

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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:59 pm

Hey, more comments, nice.

@Lars:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 7):

Very nice report with nice pictures!

CL's Avro looks the same as when I flew on D-AVRB in 1995 HAM-ARN.....still looks good!

Thank you, good to know about you´re LH Avro flight.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 7):

Nice cake on the flight there!

Exactly what I need.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 7):

Lviv looks very nice ! Good choice for a weekend trip! Too bad you did not add another carrier to get there but at least you flew on some new registrations!

Short notice, you know.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 7):
love the airport in Lviv! Very old-style looking !

Looking forward to your next reprot!

Also my opinion, you know, really special.


@Captain:

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 8):
nteresting trip report, there aren't too many reports about Lviv around here, so great to read about it. And with some very nice pictures.

Thank you.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 8):

That lounge really looks great. And you only get some bread and water

It is for sure recommendable, bread and water is absolutely ok that early morning time.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 8):

Wow, what an interesting building, certainly doesn't look like an airport.

I was really impressed, you know. Not what you expect from an airport these days.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 8):

That's a really good price, and the room as well looks very comfortable.

Absolutely recommendable.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 8):

Judging from your pictures I have to agree. I have never been to Ukraine before but your report really wants me to go there as well. Is it easy to get around there with English?

A really nice country. Not sure what happens at the countryside, but Lviv was ok with english only.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 8):

Thanks again for this report, and also say hello to Mr. S and Mr. C, they seem to do a good job there in keeping you flying and bringing us some interesting reports

Thanx again retour, they working hard catching something interesting, you know.

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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Wed Sep 07, 2011 7:30 pm

Lvov used to be part of Austria and then Poland. I always wanted to go there. Great hotel and a great price. Thanks for sharing.
 
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Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:19 pm

Hi, lychemsa,

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 10):
Lvov used to be part of Austria and then Poland. I always wanted to go there. Great hotel and a great price. Thanks for sharing.

Thanx for you´re feedback. Lviv is indeed a great place to visit. Real recommendable.

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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:06 am

Hi Markus,

Great Report! Very interesting to see a trip report about Ukraine. Lviv looks like a very nice town, very quaint & majestic. I wouldn't mind visiting there sometime. Also congrats on getting a couple of rides on the Avro RJ85, a lot more interesting then another boring ride on an A320/737.

Thanks for sharing.

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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:35 am

Hello Markus,

Verey surprised to see a report from you featuring only 2 flights   But it's ann interesting read on this small and rather unknown destination. Is LH the only WE carrier who flies here I wonder? Apparently the do well on this route (at least in the weekends) with these 2 full loads.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
so the cell phone alarm is set for 03.00 am
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
On the road at 04.00 am

I always wonder: what do you do then between these hours, a quick shower just takes 5 mins, doesn't it? It is the middle of the night for God's sake  

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
I´am impressed how many of LH employees used also this way to store the car´s and reach the terminal.

Maybe they are obliged to do this?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
it seems that´s really needed here with these runway

Indeed, looks more like the runway at FIH, for example.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Believe it or not, this is the terminal

Looks very 'Soviet' indeed!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Like a train station, isn´t it?

Ha ha, now you mention it, yes!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
And BT is leased by Ukraine International to operate during the runway works

Oh, that's the reason...

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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:32 am

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Four small engines to Lviv/Ukraine



Nice TR as always, great pictures. But I was very disappointed- why?! Khors Aircompany is flying RJ100's op. by Sky Wings Greece to Lviv from KBP. THAT would be an exotic airline...
 
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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:26 am

Hola Markus!

Great report as usual, I still have a bunch of them to read... I am a little behind, too many holidays I guess  

Very interesting city, I love the airport... there are not many of those left so it seems a real gem to find such a great looking building serving as an airport, when there was a time many of them looked alike... really great.

The city looks quite inviting as well.

I see you have not gone up any other clock-tower since your adventurous Riga (?) climbing  

Love jumbolinos on the run... great planes to fly and very reasonable M&M price, I guess Flysmart option, isn't it?

Salut!

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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:44 am

Hello Markus,

very interesting read, as always.

Lviv seems to be a great choice for a short weekend trip. I would love to go there one day. I hope that the fares become more acceptable once runway renovation is finished.

I enjoyed the pictures of the old town. Definitely plenty of interesting architecture there. The post Soviet vehicles on the streets look fascinating. Also the terminal building seems to be a special place. It looks very similar to the arrival hall at VNO.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
My second breakfast

If you found yourself in a 19th century prison, you would have definitely no problems to adjust to the existing menu, wouldn't you? 
Quoting lychemsa (Reply 10):
Lvov used to be part of Austria and then Poland.

The city has a very interesting history. Chronologically, Lviv was a part of the Kievan Rus, then it became part of Poland in 14th century. Next, it had been part of Austria from late 18th century till the end of the WWI. Then it was part of Poland again to become part of the USSR after Soviet agression on Poland in September 1939. It has been part of Ukraine since the breakdown of the USSR.

Once again great report, thanks for sharing! Looking forward to read your next reports.

Regards,
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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:22 am

Good morning Markus!

as promised, during my morning coffee, a look to your well-detailed tripreport.
Looks like Ukraine is easier to travel to then I would've expected, but not in the mood to try something domestic? Very good pics from the city and all the beautiful cars   It seems this can be a somewhat different destination for a short stay-away. How did you end up paying the taxi? By card or did you have some cash?
D-AVRA, also in my books so far, with quite a few AR8's flown on LH.

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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Thu Sep 08, 2011 6:10 pm

Hi, nice to see all that comments.


@aflyingkiwi:

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 12):

Great Report! Very interesting to see a trip report about Ukraine. Lviv looks like a very nice town, very quaint & majestic. I wouldn't mind visiting there sometime.

Thank you and indeed it´s a recommendable place.

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 12):
Also congrats on getting a couple of rides on the Avro RJ85, a lot more interesting then another boring ride on an A320/737.

Exactly my opinion.


@Nils:

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 13):

Verey surprised to see a report from you featuring only 2 flights   But it's ann interesting read on this small and rather unknown destination. Is LH the only WE carrier who flies here I wonder? Apparently the do well on this route (at least in the weekends) with these 2 full loads.

Thank you, not sure with the other carriers, dont checked it en detail.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 13):

I always wonder: what do you do then between these hours, a quick shower just takes 5 mins, doesn't it? It is the middle of the night for God's sake

Well no hurry in the morning for a relaxed day and you know, when you dont eat that much around the day it should be important for something more in the morning!.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 13):
Maybe they are obliged to do this?

So it seems.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 13):

Indeed, looks more like the runway at FIH, for example.

Good point.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 13):

Looks very 'Soviet' indeed!

I´ve not been to Russia myself, but that´s what I´am waiting for there.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 13):

Ha ha, now you mention it, yes!

Isn´t it?.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 13):
Oh, that's the reason...

Not that easy for the airlines there these days.


@debonair:

Quoting debonair (Reply 14):

Nice TR as always, great pictures. But I was very disappointed- why?! Khors Aircompany is flying RJ100's op. by Sky Wings Greece to Lviv from KBP. THAT would be an exotic airline...

Good point, the booking is done just a week ahead and there was only one domestic option, Kiew on western built material only. And well it was far from cheap to say the least, so no option for me.


@Roger:

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 15):
Great report as usual, I still have a bunch of them to read... I am a little behind, too many holidays I guess

Thank you, looking forward to you´re story.

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 15):
Very interesting city, I love the airport... there are not many of those left so it seems a real gem to find such a great looking building serving as an airport, when there was a time many of them looked alike... really great.

The city looks quite inviting as well.

Recommendable, for sure.

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 15):

I see you have not gone up any other clock-tower since your adventurous Riga (?) climbing

Much to much churches to decide from!.

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 15):
Love jumbolinos on the run... great planes to fly and very reasonable M&M price, I guess Flysmart option, isn't it?

Also my opinion.


@M.:

Quoting SPLTA (Reply 16):
very interesting read, as always.

Lviv seems to be a great choice for a short weekend trip. I would love to go there one day. I hope that the fares become more acceptable once runway renovation is finished.

I enjoyed the pictures of the old town. Definitely plenty of interesting architecture there. The post Soviet vehicles on the streets look fascinating. Also the terminal building seems to be a special place. It looks very similar to the arrival hall at VNO.

Thank you and Lviv is for sure an recommendable place for a short stay. VNO, we talked about it, sure the case here.

Quoting SPLTA (Reply 16):
If you found yourself in a 19th century prison, you would have definitely no problems to adjust to the existing menu, wouldn't you?

So it seems no problem for me if something is going wrong!.

Quoting SPLTA (Reply 16):
The city has a very interesting history. Chronologically, Lviv was a part of the Kievan Rus, then it became part of Poland in 14th century. Next, it had been part of Austria from late 18th century till the end of the WWI. Then it was part of Poland again to become part of the USSR after Soviet agression on Poland in September 1939. It has been part of Ukraine since the breakdown of the USSR.

Once again great report, thanks for sharing! Looking forward to read your next reports

Thanx again and good to know more about Lviv.


@Eric:

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 17):
as promised, during my morning coffee, a look to your well-detailed tripreport.
Looks like Ukraine is easier to travel to then I would've expected, but not in the mood to try something domestic?

Thank you and good point, the booking is done just a week ahead and there was only one domestic option, Kiew on western built material only. And well it was far from cheap to say the least, so no option for me.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 17):
Very good pics from the city and all the beautiful cars   It seems this can be a somewhat different destination for a short stay-away. How did you end up paying the taxi? By card or did you have some cash?
D-AVRA, also in my books so far, with quite a few AR8's flown on LH.

Cash is the way to go there. Sure ok do have some Grywna´s in hand!.
Good to know about D-AVRA.

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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:16 am

Wow. Thanks for the report - especially enjoyed the pictures of Ukraine.

Saludos,
A.

PS: That MUST be the most empty LH lounge I had ever seen in my life.
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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:06 am

Hallo Markus,

Nice to see another one of your reports online.

This interesting one reminds me a lot of my visit to Ukraine (and Moldova) two years ago. Spent a night in L'viv/L'vov and I can only agree, it is such a nice city with very interesting history and culture. I wrote my second TR on that trip, actually.

Nice bargain with the LH award ticket, where were you originally scheduled to go during that weekend?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Comfy armchair, specially imported Ukrainian Medowucha, Vodka with honey, produced by Majska, on the table.

I prefer Nemiroff, the chili vodka is my absolute favorite!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Time enough to go for the Senator lounge now, just around the corner from the entrance

Hey, that looks like a familiar place! Oh and I completely agree with the above - it is peculiarly empty!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
My second breakfast

Markus, Markus, I know you Southerners are all about saying money and being stingy, but you know - everything in that lounge is free (as in free beer)! No need to limit yourself to just prison food!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Leg no. 7 on type, it´s a new entry to my log and I´am in a good mood with this type today while the last flight is close to 300 legs ago

Well, as a regular KF flyer I have logged 56 flights with the -85, over 30 with -100...

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
A thousand of planes at the apron

When I was there there was a huge boneyard of more or less broken and abandoned old Soviet planes there. Did you see it or was it gone?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Modern style bus transfer

That looks just like the buses in MUC sans the info display.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Believe it or not, this is the terminal

Yes, I know the feeling. But it is very cute actually.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
He only want to see my hotel reservation and soon I was stamped, or better my passport receives another stamp and I´am allowed to enter the country.

No immigration card any more? The one I had was quite funny, worst English I've seen for quite some time. There was a special immigration officer lady who helped me to go through it and made sure it was properly filled, I think I had to write down my hotel's name and address four or five times on the same sheet... so pointless.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
I´ve send a mail to the hotel about the best way and they offered me a personal ride with the hotels own car. The fare is less than 10.00 Euro´s, well gladly accepted.

Heh. I took a taxi, we agreed on 40 or 50 Hrivna. When we got to my hotel I only had notes of 100 and he didn't have any change, so I ended up paying him the full 100 - which is around 10 EUR. He was very happy, shook my hand etc.  
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Historic houses, goodlooking churches and also well, people!.

Well, you know Ukrainian brides is big business around there. You should go to Odessa one day. The adverts for the marriage brokers etc. are amazing.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
This should be the airport, surrounded by houses and industrial estates

Such a nice airport. These old Soviet airports are so grand. Totally insufficient for modern day's requirements, but very beautiful and nice. I like how they have incorporated the old facade into the new airport at VNO.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
And BT is leased by Ukraine International to operate during the runway works

I was wondering what it was doing there, thanks for the explanation.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 17):
How did you end up paying the taxi? By card or did you have some cash?

Cards in taxis in Ukraine? Dream on, maybe in twenty years!
 
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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Fri Sep 09, 2011 3:33 pm

Hey, nice to see more comments.


@A.:

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 19):
Wow. Thanks for the report - especially enjoyed the pictures of Ukraine.

Saludos,
A.

PS: That MUST be the most empty LH lounge I had ever seen in my life.

Thank you and it seems that was the perfect time in between the first and second morning wave to use the lounge.


@P.:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 20):
Nice to see another one of your reports online.

This interesting one reminds me a lot of my visit to Ukraine (and Moldova) two years ago. Spent a night in L'viv/L'vov and I can only agree, it is such a nice city with very interesting history and culture. I wrote my second TR on that trip, actually.

Thank you and for sure I remember you´re stories, well done.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 20):
Nice bargain with the LH award ticket, where were you originally scheduled to go during that weekend?

FRA-TXL-GRZ-FRA and STR-CDG-NTE-LYS-STR.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 20):

I prefer Nemiroff, the chili vodka is my absolute favorite!

Ah, good to know.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 20):
Hey, that looks like a familiar place! Oh and I completely agree with the above - it is peculiarly empty!

Also my impression, perfectly timed but not planned this way.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 20):

Markus, Markus, I know you Southerners are all about saying money and being stingy, but you know - everything in that lounge is free (as in free beer)! No need to limit yourself to just prison food!

You know, the picky eater, that´s me!.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 20):

Well, as a regular KF flyer I have logged 56 flights with the -85, over 30 with -100...

Far from my records.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 20):
When I was there there was a huge boneyard of more or less broken and abandoned old Soviet planes there. Did you see it or was it gone?

Nothing else than a Yak42 in the distance to see.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 20):

That looks just like the buses in MUC sans the info display.

Good point.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 20):

Yes, I know the feeling. But it is very cute actually.

That´s exactly my impression.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 20):
No immigration card any more? The one I had was quite funny, worst English I've seen for quite some time. There was a special immigration officer lady who helped me to go through it and made sure it was properly filled, I think I had to write down my hotel's name and address four or five times on the same sheet... so pointless.

Not at all, the hotel reservation copy only and I was stamped.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 20):
Heh. I took a taxi, we agreed on 40 or 50 Hrivna. When we got to my hotel I only had notes of 100 and he didn't have any change, so I ended up paying him the full 100 - which is around 10 EUR. He was very happy, shook my hand etc.

Hah, good story, also the ride from the hotel to the airport was around 5.00 Euros only.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 20):
ell, you know Ukrainian brides is big business around there. You should go to Odessa one day. The adverts for the marriage brokers etc. are amazing.

Will do so!.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 20):
Such a nice airport. These old Soviet airports are so grand. Totally insufficient for modern day's requirements, but very beautiful and nice. I like how they have incorporated the old facade into the new airport at VNO.

Good point with VNO. We will see what´s going on at Lviv.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 20):

I was wondering what it was doing there, thanks for the explanation.

This bird was also a surprise for me, you know.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 20):

Cards in taxis in Ukraine? Dream on, maybe in twenty years!

Or maybe a couple more!.

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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:27 pm

WOW Markus thats a fab report. Lovely city and hotel looks really nice. That Airport is unique I hope they never change it. Such history.

The Armenian Churches have a unique design reminds me of the one in Beirut.

Did you hole punch your Gold card? Just I see you don't use the Red leather tag which it goes inside.


Thanks for the lovely read.

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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:00 am

Hi, Phil,

Quoting OA260 (Reply 22):
WOW Markus thats a fab report. Lovely city and hotel looks really nice. That Airport is unique I hope they never change it. Such history.

Thanx for you´re nice feedback. It is for sure a special place.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 22):

The Armenian Churches have a unique design reminds me of the one in Beirut.

Good to know, something also for me.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 22):
Did you hole punch your Gold card? Just I see you don't use the Red leather tag which it goes inside.

Well, there is another "frequent traveller" here, catching always these kind of things.

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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:33 am

Hi Markus,
Nice to follow your travels with yet another great trip report. Ukraine is still undiscovered for me so most interesting to see some photos from there.
Also nice to see D-AVRN again, it's a familiar one for me, flew FRA-FLR on it last year.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
S. from the scheduling department decides to follow my adventure anyway.
Comfy armchair, specially imported Ukrainian Medowucha, Vodka with honey, produced by Majska, on the table. Aside Wareniki, local filled pastry, so everything is set for an enjoyable weekend.

These gentlemen keep to amaze me - I'm running on a "one-man-operation" instead, but well...  
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Well, S. consulted C. from the controlling department and soon thereafter we receive three greens, as long as we cash back the taxes.

Why did you change your original travel plan?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
My personal IFE and the LH cake served with free drinks

I think that is an improvement from my LH Cityline flight roughly a year ago - back then a completely disgusting vacuum-packed was served. Lufthansa seems to offer a very solid product otherwise also - on time, reliable, you know.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
Like a train station, isn´t it?

Yes, I can definitely see some similarities.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
And BT is leased by Ukraine International to operate during the runway works

Weird to see BT operating FOR someone as you've seen most interesting airlines operating for BT lately.

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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:01 am

Hi Markus,

Great report, loved the pictures of Lviv, looks like a lovely old city, love the archetecture.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Lviv airport is in major renovation works and therefore only small planes are permitted to operate.

- Interesting to know.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
This is the door to the apron from the extended, joke, waiting building, no seats, concrete floor, no lounge here.

- Looks a bit grim, bet it's cold in winter!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
So, that´s what an airport in the former soviet union
with the historic fuel truck looked like 40 years ago

- Looks fantastic!

Your hotel looked pretty decent, nice to see plenty of old Russian cars still on the streets.

Cheers

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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:24 am

Hey, nice to see more comments.


@R.:

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 24):
Nice to follow your travels with yet another great trip report. Ukraine is still undiscovered for me so most interesting to see some photos from there.
Also nice to see D-AVRN again, it's a familiar one for me, flew FRA-FLR on it last year.

Thank you and good to know about our familiar Avro plane.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 24):

These gentlemen keep to amaze me - I'm running on a "one-man-operation" instead, but well..

We will see how long it´s going this way!.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 24):

Why did you change your original travel plan?

Well, that offer to Lviv sounds to good to miss.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 24):
I think that is an improvement from my LH Cityline flight roughly a year ago - back then a completely disgusting vacuum-packed was served. Lufthansa seems to offer a very solid product otherwise also - on time, reliable, you know.

Good point and also my opinion.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 24):

Yes, I can definitely see some similarities.

Definitely.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 24):
Weird to see BT operating FOR someone as you've seen most interesting airlines operating for BT lately.

It seems with the arrival of the Dash´s it´s no more need for more leased in planes.


@Mark:

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 25):

Great report, loved the pictures of Lviv, looks like a lovely old city, love the archetecture.

Thank you.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 25):

- Interesting to know.

One more reason for me to go.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 25):

- Looks a bit grim, bet it's cold in winter!

No way for me in winter.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 25):
- Looks fantastic!

Your hotel looked pretty decent, nice to see plenty of old Russian cars still on the streets.

Thanks again, sure a country to visit somedays.

Greetings,
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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:52 am

Hi Markus - I very much enjoyed your Avro report. I was due to fly with LH last year to SOF via MUC from LCY and unfortunately my Avro developed a technical problem in MUC so it never left there to fly to LCY. As a result LH rebooked me on LX via ZRH instead - plenty of Avro action there too !

I very much enjoyed your destination pics as well, including the airport there and the Armenian church. Lviv looks like an interesting place to visit. Thanks for highlighting this as a travel option.

Cheers for now, P/jet
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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:52 pm

Hi, PJ,

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 27):
Hi Markus - I very much enjoyed your Avro report. I was due to fly with LH last year to SOF via MUC from LCY and unfortunately my Avro developed a technical problem in MUC so it never left there to fly to LCY. As a result LH rebooked me on LX via ZRH instead - plenty of Avro action there too !

Thanx for you´re feedback and really interesting to follow you´re Avro adventure.

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 27):
I very much enjoyed your destination pics as well, including the airport there and the Armenian church. Lviv looks like an interesting place to visit. Thanks for highlighting this as a travel option.

Sure a recommendable place to go.

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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:27 am

Hi Markus,

Thanks for this special report about a more off-the-beaten track destinations. It seems it was worth cancelling your other trips & taking advantage of the M&M offer. And catching the RJ85 again is of course a welcome change, I only have one in my log!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
I´am impressed how many of LH employees used also this way to store the car´s and reach the terminal.

I'm guessing they're obliged to use it, passengers always have priority.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Believe it or not, this is the terminal

Wow, what a stylish building. That's the way airports should look! Although they could do with improving the gate area, imagine getting there & finding out your flight's delayed.......

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
it only me or it feels like from one of these cold war James Bond movies

Yes, I can just see Bond jumping into that green car & an exciting chase ensuing!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
that´s one of the very few examples when LH served something with meat, there is nothing else for me on offer without it.

Not what we want to hear and of course it had to be from a departure airport where there was no lounge!

By the way, what do you do with all the guidebooks you buy? Do you keep them all? If so, you must have quite an impressive collection by now.

Happy flying
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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:39 pm

Hoi, Hannah,

Quoting infodesk (Reply 29):
Thanks for this special report about a more off-the-beaten track destinations. It seems it was worth cancelling your other trips & taking advantage of the M&M offer. And catching the RJ85 again is of course a welcome change, I only have one in my log!

Thank you and for me it was really worth it to spend the time this way.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 29):
I'm guessing they're obliged to use it, passengers always have priority.

Good point, a few pax only and lots of staff this time.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 29):

Wow, what a stylish building. That's the way airports should look! Although they could do with improving the gate area, imagine getting there & finding out your flight's delayed.......

Definitely not the place to spend a couple of hours.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 29):

Yes, I can just see Bond jumping into that green car & an exciting chase ensuing!

Exactly what it feels like.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 29):
Not what we want to hear and of course it had to be from a departure airport where there was no lounge!

Good point again and one of the very few examples without an alternative offer.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 29):
By the way, what do you do with all the guidebooks you buy? Do you keep them all? If so, you must have quite an impressive collection by now.

Well, that´s the only travel related stuff on paper in my house and the accumulation is growing!.

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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:33 pm

Hi FLIEGER67

Good report! Thanks for adding so many pictures of Lviv, a city I always wanted to go. I haven't managed to do it yet, maybe later when the airport will fully operate again. Wizzair, maybe, from FMM.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Like a train station, isn´t it?
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
So, that´s what an airport in the former soviet union
with the historic fuel truck looked like 40 years ago

I love this airport architecture from another era. Some airports and fuel trucks in Russia still look like this...

It was interesting to note that the airport information screen in MUC showed most of the city names in German such as
Lemberg = Lviv; Posen = Poznan; Tiflis = Tbilisi; Genf = Geneva but not Klausenburg = Cluj. It seems a bit provinicial to use German spelling, or does the screen switch between German and English?

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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:31 am

Hi Markus, thanks for sharing. Nice logging the LH AR8 twice, unfortunately they wont be around for much longer! The pictures of Lviv look great.

Rgds

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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:15 pm

Hi Markus

Superb report you have there. Enjoyed reading it. Nice you get to log the AR8, a plane on my to-fly list.
Glad you enjoyed Lviv as well.

Greetings
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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:48 pm

Hi, good to see more comments.


@J.:

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 31):
Good report! Thanks for adding so many pictures of Lviv, a city I always wanted to go. I haven't managed to do it yet, maybe later when the airport will fully operate again. Wizzair, maybe, from FMM.

Thank you and it´s sure an interesting place to visit. Wizz from FMM, good idea.

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 31):
I love this airport architecture from another era. Some airports and fuel trucks in Russia still look like this..

Really special, you know.

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 31):
It was interesting to note that the airport information screen in MUC showed most of the city names in German such as
Lemberg = Lviv; Posen = Poznan; Tiflis = Tbilisi; Genf = Geneva but not Klausenburg = Cluj. It seems a bit provinicial to use German spelling, or does the screen switch between German and English?

Good point. I´ve noticed it in german only.


@Martijn:

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 32):
Hi Markus, thanks for sharing. Nice logging the LH AR8 twice, unfortunately they wont be around for much longer! The pictures of Lviv look great.

Thank you and I know, that more and more Avro´s leaving the LH fleet.


@Marc:

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 33):
Superb report you have there. Enjoyed reading it. Nice you get to log the AR8, a plane on my to-fly list.
Glad you enjoyed Lviv as well.

Thank you and good to know that you looking to catch the Avro soon.

Greetings,
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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:24 am

Hi FLIEGER67,

Thanks for a pleasant report. As one of my hometown airports I was very pleased to see a report about this. I would love to know whether or not the staff are friendly and was the check-in process speedy? I would like to fly through Lviv rather than a big airport like UKBB  
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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:00 pm

Hi, irshava,

Quoting irshava (Reply 35):

Thanks for a pleasant report.

Thank you for you´re feedback.

Quoting irshava (Reply 35):
As one of my hometown airports I was very pleased to see a report about this. I would love to know whether or not the staff are friendly and was the check-in process speedy?

Staff and check-in was ok.

Quoting irshava (Reply 35):
I would like to fly through Lviv rather than a big airport like UKBB

One more place to go for me!.

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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:53 am

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 36):
One more place to go for me!.

A great airport (for Eastern Europe that is :P)

Thanks again Markus!

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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:49 am

Hi Markus,

another lovely TR from you and what a nice trip to Ukraine. Very lovely architecture they have over there and the airport terminal building is just as quaint. Very interesting gateway into the city! Those old-fashioned Soviet cars are really cute as well. I believed the atmosphere from the airport to the city was really like a step back to the past.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
He saw a very good offer by Miles and More to the Ukraine, 10000 miles and some taxes only.
Nice to hear that you've got it for a steal as well.

Also nice to hear that you've got two nice registrations for your log!

Thanks for sharing and I loved those pictures of the city.

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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:35 am

Nice report there to Lviv. Looks like a typical pretty Eastern European town. Lucky you were there when it was sunny!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
My well done room

Looks very nice
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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:23 pm

Hey, good to see more comments.

@Max:

Quoting irshava (Reply 37):
A great airport (for Eastern Europe that is :P)

Thanks again Markus!

Not yet fixed but something to go for a view sometimes next year, maybe.


@Gavin:

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 38):
another lovely TR from you and what a nice trip to Ukraine. Very lovely architecture they have over there and the airport terminal building is just as quaint. Very interesting gateway into the city! Those old-fashioned Soviet cars are really cute as well. I believed the atmosphere from the airport to the city was really like a step back to the past.
Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 38):

Thanks for sharing and I loved those pictures of the city.

Thank you and Lviv is definitely a interesting place to stay. Especially that differencies between the Soviet area and the modern times, really special.

Quoting RvXKaz (Reply 38):
Nice to hear that you've got it for a steal as well.

Also nice to hear that you've got two nice registrations for your log!

The fare was sure ok and also the new reg´s.


@gabriel:

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 39):
Nice report there to Lviv. Looks like a typical pretty Eastern European town. Lucky you were there when it was sunny!

Thank you, sure an interesting place to go.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 39):
Looks very nice

Good value, from my point of view.

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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:32 am

Hello Markus!

Thanks for the story. Nice too see something different like L´viv, not the most covered place here 
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
I´ve never been to the Ukraine before



Congratulations to that! I´m looking on flights too Kiev next spring

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
55.00 Euro´s taxes per leg,



More then 100 euros in taxes is quit expensive I think!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
My second breakfast



A light one 
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Believe it or not, this is the terminal



Beautiful!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The plane rattling and shaking around and soon we´re in the clouds again.



Nice! I love these take-offs! Make me think about BMA

´Thanks again Markus!

Greetings
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RE: Four Small Engines To Lviv/Ukraine

Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:46 pm

Hi, Robert

Quoting Parton87 (Reply 41):

Thanks for the story. Nice too see something different like L´viv, not the most covered place here 

Good to follow you´re comment. Thank you.

Quoting Parton87 (Reply 41):


Congratulations to that! I´m looking on flights too Kiev next spring

That sounds really interesting.

Quoting Parton87 (Reply 41):

More then 100 euros in taxes is quit expensive I think!

Sure the case.

Quoting Parton87 (Reply 41):

A light one

As usual.

Quoting Parton87 (Reply 41):

Beautiful!

Definitely.

Quoting Parton87 (Reply 41):

Nice! I love these take-offs! Make me think about BMA

BMA, also a place missing from my log.

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