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Part 1: London-Colombia Via ARN/MUC/FRA On BA & LH

Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:10 pm

Part 1: London to Colombia via ARN/MUC/FRA on BA & LH



Hi!

Welcome to the first part of my trip report covering my flights to Colombia. Despite 99% of Colombia’s international news coverage concerning drugs, violence and kidnappings, Colombia is somewhere I’ve always been curious about. I’d received a few emails from Lufthansa offering some pretty good fares down to Bogota (around GBP 450) from London. However, it wasn’t until I saw FlyingFinn76’s Facebook update about flying to Colombia that I started to think about actual times and dates. A quick email conversation with FlyingFinn76 and I found out that LH had misloaded the fares on flights to BOG from quite a few northern European airports. Instead of a fare of around GBP150 + tax, the fare was a grand total of GBP 0 + tax. FF76 had booked a long weekend to BOG for the end of October. After playing around with the dates, I decided on a rather long winded ARN-MUC-FRA-BOG-FRA-MUC-HEL routing, along with some connections with BA LHR-ARN/HEL-LHR. I’d be going out a few days before FF76, but we’d be flying back to HEL on the same flights. Once I’d added the BA flights, the total including tax wasn’t so much cheaper than an LHR-FRA-BOG routing, but of course that would have been far less interesting. Total airfare for the international flights was GBP 340 (EUR 390/USD 530). Bargain!

I also booked a series of flights inside Colombia, but I’ll cover those in the next report.

The map for today’s flights:
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The entire itinerary:
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As all the flights were booked a long way in advance (April), I wasn’t sure what I’d be doing nearer the time of departure. As it was, I wasn’t working the day I was leaving. I had booked the last flight of the day out of LHR to ARN which was scheduled to arrive at 2340. I decided to go to Heathrow early to see if I could get on the earlier 1640. This flight was pretty full, and my fare non-flexible, but I thought I’d give it a go.

On the bus to Heathrow
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Annoyingly, the bus I usually get ot LHR has recently dropped the extension from the Central bus station to T5, so I had to get the free Heathrow Express over to T5
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I arrived at LHR nice and early at around 2pm. I was directed to the customer services desk to see about changing to the early flight. As I had guesses, I was told that there would be a large change fee of around GBP150. No thanks. I tried to reason that it would save BA money to put me on the earlier flight (as otherwise I’d spend the afternoon drinking in the lounge), but it was to no avail. Interestingly, if I had booked the lunchtime B767 flight to ARN, I would have ended up on one of the longhual 767s with PTV in economy.

Departures
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After checking in, I took a few photos from the drop off area.
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Diplomat Parking
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Premium check in area
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BA don’t have a minimum check in time in Terminal 5 (they do in T3). Instead, there is a last time you have to have your boarding pass scanned by security (35 minutes). It’s the same for everyone, and if you turn up at security at T-34 minutes, then you’ll find you’ve already been automatically offloaded, even if you’re a Gold member in First.


Security wasn’t too busy today, and before long I was in the BA Galleries South lounge. Time for a bit of lunch. As I had six hours before my flight, I thought it a prudent idea to pace myself on both the food and the booze.
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I got a couple of pots of vanilla ice-cream. The guy sitting on the table over from me asked where I got them from. Clearly, not many people know where the ice-cream freezer is.
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After getting some food in the South Galleries, I took the metro over to Terminal 5B. This is mainly used for long-haul flights. Passengers are told NOT to go over to 5B or 5C until their gate is announced (normally an hour or so before the flight) as there is no “proper” way to get back to T5A (where most shorthual flights leave from). However, I had done my research (on Flyertalk) and found out about a “secret” passageway back to T5A without having to go through security again

The escalator to the metro


Views of T5B
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The lounge warden welcomed me into the lounge, disregarding the fact that I was very early, and in the wrong terminal. I took a seat, and a bottle of water, and logged onto the free wifi.
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I caught passing waiter, and ordered a glass of champagne.


A few views of the T5B lounge. Not too busy, mainly as people spend most of their time in the T5A lounges.
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After a while on my computer finishing off a few last minute tasks (including renewing my travel insurance which expired the day before, and hadn’t realised!) I decided to see what food was on offer, as well as move to a new seat.
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This B744 would shortly be leaving for CPT
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Is this you? Boarded the YUL flight after I took the photo.
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After 2 hours in the lounge, I moved again, this time to the computer area to print out a few things (I’d forgotten my guide book at home, so I printed off quite a few Google Maps!, as well as my insurance things). Nice view.
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Some more snacks
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CPT boarding


Around 50 minutes before my scheduled departure for ARN, I decided to head over to the A gates. For the record, take the lift next to the T5B Boots to level -2, then go down the stairs.


You then end up in a completely deserted area, with a tunnel going left for A, and right for C.
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Nice mood lighting
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Once back in T5A, I caught the lift back up to departures. The walk was actually much shorter and easier than I had thought, taking just 6 minutes from the T5b lounge to the Galleries South lounge. The tunnel is actually on -4, so it might be offlimits to passengers. Still the sign on the stairs DIDN’T say staff only. Maybe it’s only allowed going from B to A, and not visa versa?
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FIDS


T5A
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A quick check on the lounge FIDS showed a one hour delay. Not good news. I was quite tired by now, and the delay would mean an even shorter stay at the ARN Jumbo Hostel, and a consequently more grumpy day tomorrow.
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Nothing for it, but to have a bit more food!
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The future
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At 2030 I left the lounge, and headed down to the gate.
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By the time I arrived, boarding had just started. I joined the priority queue, and was soon on board.
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October 2011
London Heathrow (LHR) – Stockholm Arlanda (ARN)
British Airways BA 786
Scheduled: 2015-2340 (2h25m)
Actual: 2103-0006 (2h03m)
Airbus A320 G-EUXL



I had managed to snag the window seat behind Club Europe. This, along with the aisle seat are probably the best Y seats on the Airbus fleet as they are wider than normal, and the B seat isn’t sold. The load was around 75%, with the back 3 or 4 rows completely empty. The captain apologised for the delay, saying earlier in the day there’d been a mechanical error, and they’d spent the day playing catch up.

After a very short taxi, we took off 50 minutes late.
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Moving map
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Fifteen minutes after take off, the crew rolled the trolley to the front of Y. Tonight’s catering was a ham and cheese sub roll – very tasty actually. I asked just for a couple of gins (without the tonic), explaining to the bemused cabin crew guy that I’d taken some slimline tonic from the lounge (they’ve stopped serving it in Y).
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An interesting article in HighLife
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Hmmm, nice advert. I think I’ll go to Colombia tomorrow


En route to Denmark. As you can see, the moving map also had an earlier return flight from AMS stuck on the screen.
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BA routemap. GVA still missing despite being served up to 16 times a day from all three of BA’s London bases.
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Hitting the Swedish coast
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Safety Card
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Luckily, we managed to make up a little bit of time, and started our approach to ARN around 2345.
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Welcome to a dark and rather deserted ARN
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Being sat near the front, I was off the plane pretty quickly.
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Due to the late arrival, quite a lot of people were embarking on a fast-walking race for immigration (at this time of day there’d only be 2 or 3 immigration officers, so long waits for those at the back).
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Once through immigration, there was a longish wait for the bags, but they finally arrived
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I had booked a night in a dorm in the wonderful Jumbo Stay Hostel. This B747-212B has had a long and varied history having changed hands no less than 14 times, including stints with Singapore, Pan am, Garuda, Cathay and Tower Air.
http://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-b747-21162.htm
http://www.jumbostay.com/

Approaching the aircraft was great – it’s not often you can walk up to a B747 on your own, with no one else around. It’s just a shame that it was dark both when I arrived and left. A word or warning if you go, DON’T take the lift unless your bags are VERY heavy. Far quicker to walk.
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The café in the nose
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My room, which was surprisingly comfortable and well appointed. By the time I got into bed it was 1am. I was up again at 6am – way too little sleep.
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It was sad to have to leave so soon after arriving – I’ll have to come back in daylight next time. It’s nice to have finally joined the very exclusive “I’ve had a shower on a plane” club though!

The bus back to the terminal. It was FREEZING waiting for the bus. Stockholm in October is surprisingly cold.


When I tried to check in online for these flights, I was only allowed to select seats/get boarding passes for the MUC-FRA and FRA-BOG legs, not the ARN-MUC. This was rather odd, especially as the flight was LH operated, and wasn’t over booked or anything. I was told that I would get a seat assignment at the gate.
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When I got into the terminal I went over to a self service check in machine. I put my LH M&M card, and was able to check in and select a seat for my ARN-MUC sector. Flight didn’t seem too busy, and I got a row to myself near the back. The machine, however, only printed my ARN-MUC boarding pass. I went over to drop my bag at an adjacent desk. I asked the guy if he could print out my other boarding passes, but was told that he couldn’t, and I’d have to ask in MUC – not very coordinated LH!
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FIDS
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A nice seating area near the check in desks
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There was very little queue at security, and in just a few minutes I was airside.
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My plane from last night at the back. The other BA is the LCY flight
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My plane for today
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Is this only for AY pax?
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Can’t leave Scandinavia without visiting a Design store
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More comfy seating


Deicing for SK flight to FAO. Like I said, it was cold!
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Arriving from warmer climes
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Starbucks (Sweden’s’ only?)
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A few more of my A320
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Boarding started twenty minutes before scheduled departure. There wasn’t any boarding system, just a free for all.
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October 2011
Stockholm Arlanda (ARN) – Munich (MUC)
Lufthansa LH 2421
Scheduled: 0745-0955 (2h10m)
Actual: 0755-0939 (1h44m)
Airbus A320 D-AIPH



As I was waiting to walk down the aisle to my seat, the very friendly purser commented to the lady behind me “oh, I love your coat”. It’s nice when the cabin crew interact with passengers spontaneously!

As I had hoped, the flight was pretty lightly loaded, and I got a row of three seats to myself. Unfortunately the row ahead and across was filled up with a group of Swedish guys going on a drinking holiday to Munich. They were pretty loud.
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Yup, its an A320
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There wasn’t much to be seen out of the fogged up windows. Beautiful morning to be flying.
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http://my.flightmemory.com/shefgab Upcoming flights: LGW-OPO-LGW,LHR-FCO-CTA-LIN-LCY,LHR-AMS-GRQ-SEN,LTN-CPH-LHR-ORD
 
gabrielchew
Topic Author
Posts: 3720
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RE: Part 1: London-Colombia Via ARN/MUC/FRA On BA & LH

Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:17 pm

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Off we go
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Fifteen minutes after take off the trolley with breakfast reached my row – a nice ham and cheese sandwich – lucky I like the combo!
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And some tea, water and juice
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“Be invited”? What does that mean?
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A nice overview of PEK in the LH magazin
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South American Map
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Enjoying the views of the Swedish/Polish coastlines
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A quick visit to the loo
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Cabin
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A bit of a typo in the Magazin
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I didn’t know LH let 16 and 17 year olds drink!? What’s the drinking age in Germany?http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p207/shefgab/colombia/CIMG5332.jpg

The crew came through a couple of time, offering refills and trying up the cabin. The Swedes around me ordered more beer.

Starting our approach to MUC
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The Austrian border and Alps in the distance
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A short taxi brought us to a remote stand. The local temperature was announced at 3C – another cold city!
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I flew a couple of legs of this earlier in the year
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Once the bus dropped us off at the bottom of the terminal, I made my way to the LH Business lounge to pick up my boarding passes for my next two flights.
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I inquired about upgrading the FRA-BOG flight but was told that currently there this wasn’t possible, either with cash or miles. With only twenty minutes or so before boarding, I just got some bread and jam, some hot chocolate and some water.
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FIDS
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I headed down to the gate around twenty minutes before scheduled departure to find a lot of people queuing at the gate, and no plane. Hmmm. I took a seat and watched the people in the queue growing restless.
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A few minutes later our plane arrived from FRA
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I guess it was a member of staff that got the jumpseat? The flight was 100%+
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Boarding finally started ten minutes after our STD.
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October 2011
Munich (MUC) – Frankfurt (FRA)
Lufthansa LH 109
Scheduled: 1050-1155 (1h05m)
Actual: 1131-1210 (0h39m)
Airbus A321 D-AIRO

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I was greeted at the door by a smiling lady, holding a big box of chocolate bars. Interesting! I wondered if this was instead of an inflight service as the flight was scheduled to be too short or bumpy.
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There was a Liechtensteiner youth sports team onboard, and they all had very big carry ons. It took some effort to find somewhere to put my backpack. This plane had the old style seats. The legroom was noticeably worse than on the previous flight. Having a large middle seat neighbour didn’t help – lucky this was short flight.
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Neighbours
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We took off forty minutes late in the cold but sunny sky
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MUC
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I was happy to see the trolley roll out of the back galley less than ten minutes after takeoff. I was even happier to see them start serving from the back. Just a bottle of beer for me, with some music. The rows at the front of economy weren’t served until ten minutes before arrival – a rushed drink for them. A credit to the crew to serve everyone though – reminds me of BAs LHR-MAN service. It’s a race against time!
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Approach into FRA
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Touchdown in FRA after just 39 minutes, a quarter of an hour late
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As always, there was a long walk through the horrible tunnel from Schengen to non-Schengen
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FIDS
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A B744 for BOM
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I made a beeline for the lounge after a long wait for immigration. Everyone was dying to leave Germany today. A white beer and a tomato risotto. Very tasty.
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And a healthy plum
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Not the best views from the lounge
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Another B744, this one for MEX though


When I got down to the gate, there were more enormous queues. This was going to be a full flight, in Y at least. It turned out that there was an issue with the catering in economy, so they asked First and Business to board, whilst reminding status customers in economy to wait.
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After a good 20 minute wait, I was finally allowed to board
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There was a water trolley, with a “please help yourself!” sign at the end of the jetbridge – never seen this before – anyone else? I was going to take a glass, but thought there was a high chance of spilling it what with all my hand luggage and camera.
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October 2011
Frankfurt (FRA) – Bogota El Dorado (BOG)
Lufthansa LH 542
Scheduled: 1430-1905 (10h35m)
Actual: 1513-1844 (9h31m)
Airbus A340-600 D-AIHH



I was greeted by a bunch for friendly crew, and directed down the far aisle. I’d selected 40K, just ahead of the penultimate door, and next to the staircase down to the toilets. You get great views of the wing, without the wing getting in the way. However, service was a bit slow here as they start at the front of the cabins.
http://www.lufthansa.com/mediapool/pdf/70/media_871770.pdf

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Nice sized PTV (sorry about the reflections)
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View of the stairs from my seat
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I knew that the flight was fully booked, so I knew I’d have a seat mate. I think he was Colombian, but we never spoke, so I don’t know. He was pretty good at getting up so I could get out through.

The captain came on the blower and apologized about the catering delay, and said that we should be arriving on time anyway, so not to worry.
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Off we go!
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Moving map
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Views before lunch
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Hot towels were handed out. I was just reading (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/1270333-new-wt-improvements-bassas-not-happy.html) about how the unions on for BA’s old fleets (the ones who like to strike) have just been forced in handing out hot towels in Premium economy. Apparently they’d been resisting for a long time due to the extra work. On my LHR-SAN flight with the new Mixed Fleet crew, I got two towels, on the MEX-LHR I didn’t get any.
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Drink service before lunch. Yes, I had a G&T : )
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There were two choices for lunch, pasta with chicken, or potatoes and beef (?). I went with the former, which was really tasty.
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A post dinner G&T


Once the trays were cleared, there was nothing to do but look out the window and watch the map.
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Filling in my landing card. That question was phrased a bit strangely
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http://my.flightmemory.com/shefgab Upcoming flights: LGW-OPO-LGW,LHR-FCO-CTA-LIN-LCY,LHR-AMS-GRQ-SEN,LTN-CPH-LHR-ORD
 
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RE: Part 1: London-Colombia Via ARN/MUC/FRA On BA & LH

Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:19 pm

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I decided to go downstairs and have a look at the “underdeck”, there LH have put 5 toilets, and the crew rest. What a great idea! Plenty of space, bright and welcoming. They even had a small snack bar set up down there. And it’s always nice to use airplane stairs! http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p207/shefgab/colombia/CIMG5497.jpg
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Cabin views
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I spent the next few hours watching TV. Despite having a nice big TV, the entertainment choices weren’t great. I watched Bad Teacher (pretty good), and Something Borrowed (not so great). Out of interested, if they went from the current 20 (?) film choice up to say 100 choices, would there be a lot of additional cost/effort/space needed? I also caught up with some Scrubs (just one episode mind) and a rather lacklustre documentary on the Ocktoberfest.
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A chocolate bar handed out a few hours after lunch
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There was an announcement made sating that our flight had been selected for a survey. I volunteered to fill one out, mainly to pass the time (and get a free LH pen!).
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Alcohol free! Just orange and sparking water.


Map
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The sun slowly setting
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More map
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Roughly 90 minutes before landing, another hotel towel was handed out, shortly followed by dinner. Again, there were two hot choices, wither rice with honey roasted chicken (my choice) or pasta with two kinds of pesto. Again, very tasty. Well done LH. More lovely catering!
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As we flew over the Caribbean, I kept hoping to see some islands. I *think* I saw Bonaire, but it’s hard to tell!
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My first glimpses of South America, a new continent!
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Finally, we’re in Colombian airspace
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Despite the late departure, we began our descent early into Bogota. Unfortunately, by now it was dark, so I didn’t get any good views of the city.

The cabin prepared for landing.
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And we’re down! Welcome to Colombia, continent no. 6 for me, and country no. 76!
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Seatbelt sign off, time to go! I’d had an email conversation with DavidCA (that’s, your emails were very helpful!), and been advised to make a dash for immigration, which I did.
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The corridor to immigration
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Waiting. Luckily, the queue moved very quickly. There were around 20 counters open for just our flight. After answering a few questions about my trip (the guy only spoke Spanish), I was stamped in, and sent off to get my bag.
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After only a few minutes wait, my bag appeared.
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p207/shefgab/colombia/CIMG5575.jpg


My customs declaration to stamped, and I went through to the arrivals area. There weren’t any ATMs to be found, but there were a lot of exchange counters. Interestingly, you have to leave a fingerprint on your exchange certificate….not sure the reason for that. There was a passageway off to the official taxi waiting area, where after giving my hotel address to the lady, I was given a receipt with the fare to be paid. Easy. Before long I was on my way to my hotel for the night, the well priced and located Ibis.
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p207/shefgab/colombia/CIMG5576.jpg
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p207/shefgab/colombia/CIMG5577.jpg


So, I’d made it to Colombia. I’m currently in Cartagena on the Caribbean coast, waiting for yet another thunderstorm to pass (it’s mid-rainy season at the moment). I was very pleased with my LH flights. Their service (both long and shorthual) might not be fancy, but is generally efficient and sufficient. There were a few problems, like the check in issue in ARN/online, and the catering in FRA. But the flights themselves were very pleasant. BA were perfectly adequate on the short hop to ARN, although the delay was a bit tiring given the time of day. My domestic Avianca report will be out sometime next week I imagine.

I’m looking forward to seeing your comments and questions!

Some of my other TRs:

Part 4, British Airways Mexico City – London, World Traveller Plus
[url=http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/trip_reports/read.main/199218/]Part 3, USA and Mexico: Around Mexico with Aereo Calafia Cessna 208B & Viva Aerobus B733

Part 2, USA and Mexico: Sightseeing tour of San Diego Airport, and American Airlines San Diego - LA – Dallas - San Jose Cabo
Part 1, USA and Mexico: easyJet Luton to Paris, and BA Paris to San Diego via LHR in World Traveller Plus
British Airways to Scandinavia (LHR-CPH,GOT-LHR)
Where’s my bag? British Airways, Milan to London
What airline am I flying again? Bmi/Lufthansa Italia LHR-MXP
Albania and Macedonia: Austrian LHR-VIE-TIA, Macedonian Airlines SKP-ZRH, Swiss ZRH-LCY
Part 1, Lufthansa London-Munich-Frankfurt-Nanjing, Economy Class A321 and A343
Part 2, Cathay Pacific Shanghai to Tokyo via Hong Kong, Business Class A330 and B747-400
Part 3, ANA Boeing B767 Tokyo to Shanghai, & Air China Airbus A340 Shanghai to Beijing, Business Class
Part 4: Chinese domestics, inc. Joy Air Xi’an MA60, Tianjin Airlines ERJ, and China Express Airways CRJ
Part 5: Lufthansa Beijing-Frankfurt-London City, Economy Class A388 and E90
5 Countries, 5 Flights, 5 Days, with Ryanair (FR)
bmiFriday: Welcome to Sunny Norway, London to Bergen, A319)
Royal Jordanian, London to Aqaba via Amman. A330 and A320
Royal Jordanian, Amman to London, A330
London City to Antwerp with Cityjet and the Fokker 50
Croatian Airlines, LHR-ZAG,PUY-ZAD-ZAG-LHR, A319 and Dash 8
British Airways, Iberia & Binter to Tenerife and Gran Canaria, LHR-MAD-TFN-LPA-MAD-LHR, A320,ATR, A321
British Airways, London To Amsterdam, LGW-AMS-LHR, B737 & A321
British Airways up to a snowy Glasgow, with a change of flights and delay, LHR-GLA-LCY A321 and E90
Turkish Airlines Business Class from London to Istanbul. From Terrible To Fantastic
Turkish Airlines Business Class from Istanbul to Batumi (Georgia). Not again!
bmi Business Class, Tbilisi to London via Azerbaijan
Tallinn to London, with Estonian Air and BA, via ARN
Cuba! BA/IB London-Madrid-Havana, Business Class
Aerocarribean, Baracoa to Havana
Asia Trip, Pt 1: Qatar Airways Business Class (LHR-DOH-ICN)
Asia Trip, Pt 2: China Southern and Hainan Airlines (A321/A346)
Asia Trip, Pt 3: Malaysia Airlines, Hong Kong to Penang
Asia Trip, Pt 4: Qatar Airways Economy (HKG-DOH-LHR)
A weekend in Transylvania with Blue Air (LTN-SBZ)
Helsinki for the weekend on BA and KF
Easter in Ukraine with Austrian
UAE and Oman with BA and Air Arabia. Y & Y+
HKG-LHR-HKG Air New Zealand, Premium Economy and Economy
US Airways LGW-DCA-MSP-LGA-LGW
London Heathrow - Zurich - Venice on Swiss Business for the weekend
Chasing the Eclipse on China Eastern
Taiwan: EVA Air (HKG-TPE rtn), UNI Airways (TSA-HCN), Daily Air (TTT-KYD rtn)
UA HKG-SIN-HKG Y Class, SQ KUL-SIN C Class
Bangkok to Beijing, Egyptair Business Class
Air China Beijing to Harbin, B777 Economy outbound, A330 First Class return
Tiger Airways, Singapore to Darwin return
A selection of Chinese Domestics; China Eastern, Air China and Shenzhen Airlines
Hong Kong to London on Singapore Airlines (744/380/77W)
Qatar Airways Beijing-Doha-London Heathrow (A330/A340)
Air China First Class. Beijing-Guilin via Xi’an
Round Asia Trip. URC-HTN,OSS-FRU,ALA-URC-LHW-KMG-JHG-KMG-SYX,HAK-NKG-PEK-NRT-LHR,
Hainan Airlines, China Eastern, China Southern, Lucky Air, ANA, Economy and Business Class.

SAS and Lufthansa Business Class, LHR-OSL-FRA-FRA, B73G and B744
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:57 pm

Hi Gabriel!

Great tripreport, I really enjoyed reading about your flights with Lufthansa since I have some upcoming longhaul flying with them myself, although not until next year.

I love the pictures on your flight over the Atlantic. The wing and the sea... Beautiful!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Starbucks (Sweden’s’ only?)

Indeed it's our only one.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
a nice ham and cheese sandwich – lucky I like the combo!

Who doesn't?  
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Again, very tasty. Well done LH. More lovely catering!

Both dishes looks nice for Y meals.

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Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:45 pm

Hi Gabriel,

I do vaguely remember reading about the misprice on FB, but didn't take it in. Great bargain you managed to snatch there with a nice exotic routing.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I tried to reason that it would save BA money to put me on the earlier flight (as otherwise I’d spend the afternoon drinking in the lounge), but it was to no avail

Bet they'd never heard that one before!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Instead, there is a last time you have to have your boarding pass scanned by security (35 minutes). It’s the same for everyone, and if you turn up at security at T-34 minutes, then you’ll find you’ve already been automatically offloaded, even if you’re a Gold member in First

Strict rules indeed. Can imagine there would be some Gold members or First passengers who don't agree with it.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I didn’t know LH let 16 and 17 year olds drink!? What’s the drinking age in Germany?

You're allowed to drink beer & wine from 16, spirits from 18

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
guess it was a member of staff that got the jumpseat? The flight was 100%+

Am sure that screen makes for interesting reading, never seen anything like it.

Nice to see some 747s, it really is a beautiful aircraft.

Hope you're enjoying your time in Colombia!

Happy flying
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:26 pm

Hi Gabriel,

interesting first part of your Colombia series. The food on LH looks quite good as in most cases.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):

A bit of a typo in the Magazin

Nice. Mistakes are really rare in LH's inflight magazine.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Airbus A321 D-AIRO

Interesting, I flew FRA-MUC on that one some weeks ago. But you had a different seat this time...

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I volunteered to fill one out, mainly to pass the time (and get a free LH pen!).

Nice, I secured a yellow one recently.


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Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:50 pm

Hey gabrielchew,

Thanks for writing and sharing this trip report. Really nice to read a flight report on Lufthansa's flight to Bogota. I recently flew on Iberia to Bogota (still in the middle of writing a flight review about this flight) and I must admit that it looks like that Lufthansa would have been a better choice.
What was the cabin crew like on your flight? Iberia's flight attandants are not the friendliest around.

How long did you spend in Bogota? Did you like the city?

Cartagena is just an amazing city. Have fun there!

I'm looking forward to your Avianca trip reports.
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:23 pm

Quoting infodesk (Reply 4):
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Instead, there is a last time you have to have your boarding pass scanned by security (35 minutes). It’s the same for everyone, and if you turn up at security at T-34 minutes, then you’ll find you’ve already been automatically offloaded, even if you’re a Gold member in First

Strict rules indeed. Can imagine there would be some Gold members or First passengers who don't agree with it.

A friend of mine missed her flight to Aberdeen by passing through security 30 minutes before departure. Stupid idea for BA/LHR to implement something like this. I thought checkin for LHR T5 generally closes 45 minutes before departure. Whatever, we just made an excuse for my friend and said that she was asked by the security to do extra screening, and it was their fault..... She was booked on a later flight eventually.

This requirement will definitely take away a lot of domestic O&D passenger, however, having something like this does not make BA any more puntual than their counterparts.
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:25 pm

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 3):
Great tripreport,

Thanks!

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 3):
I have some upcoming longhaul flying with them myself, although not until next year.

Where are you off to?

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 3):
Both dishes looks nice for Y meals.

Yeah, great catering!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 4):
I do vaguely remember reading about the misprice on FB, but didn't take it in. Great bargain you managed to snatch there with a nice exotic routing.

Yeah, it was lucky saw Petteris FB update, otherwise I would have missed it!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 4):
Bet they'd never heard that one before!

Bet they have! Still, BA are well known for not being flexible with things like this. That's why they make money!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 4):
Strict rules indeed. Can imagine there would be some Gold members or First passengers who don't agree with it.

Perhaps, although you have to draw the line somewhere.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 4):
Hope you're enjoying your time in Colombia!

I am - I'm going for a massage in a bit, such a bargain compared to London!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 5):
interesting first part of your Colombia series.

Thanks

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 5):
Nice. Mistakes are really rare in LH's inflight magazine.

Yeah, I imagine they would be. Strange mistake to make though, featuring the B733, then picturing the B735!

Quoting amsspot (Reply 6):

Thanks for writing and sharing this trip report.

No problem!

Quoting amsspot (Reply 6):
I recently flew on Iberia to Bogota (still in the middle of writing a flight review about this flight) and I must admit that it looks like that Lufthansa would have been a better choice.

I think LH would have been better (unless yo don't like having a PTV!)

Quoting amsspot (Reply 6):
What was the cabin crew like on your flight? Iberia's flight attandants are not the friendliest around.

LH cabin crew were good. Efficient, and occasionaly friendly : )

Quoting amsspot (Reply 6):
How long did you spend in Bogota? Did you like the city?

Just one night, but got 30 odd hours there next weekend

Quoting amsspot (Reply 6):
Cartagena is just an amazing city. Have fun there!

Yeah, it's beautiful, loving it here. Great food too!
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RE: Part 1: London-Colombia Via ARN/MUC/FRA On BA & LH

Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:33 pm

Hola Gabriel!

What an interesting read your TR is.

Great you were able to catch that bargain fare to BOG and obviously the interesting routing. This is always I look forward to, the more planes you catch, the more airports you are able to visit, the more fun the trip is.... my travel mates do not think the same though.

Interesting to see LH service and catering. I am surprised when the same company cannot print boarding passes for their own flights on the same ticket, puzzling to say the least.

It is always great to explore a beautiful country like Colombia, and I am sure Cartagena is a great city with very beautiful housing and interesting history. I have never been but I have heard a lot of positive things about the country and its natural beauty.

Enjoy your stay and have a great trip back! Looking forward to reading it!

Salut!

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Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:58 pm

Hi Gabriel
Great report, didn't want to stop reading I enjoyed it that much. Really looking forward to part 2 now  
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:04 pm

Hi Gabriel

I was so pleased to see the first instalment of your travels to South America.

Firstly, a massive THANK YOU for spelling COLOMBIA correctly!! The number of times I have seen it misspelled "COLUMBIA" by other people, including the official press in many different countries, is nothing short of astounding. It has never been spelled Columbia. It's not hard to check the spelling so it beggars belief why it seems to be one of the most common misspelled words (at least for English speakers).

I really enjoyed your report. Seems like a nice LH A346 experience for you - was that your first LH 346?

The registration on your first flight out of LHR - the BA flight, indicates it was an A321 (and not an A320)?

Shame you did not get longer overnight at ARN. Looks like a great place to stay for avia geeks! I will have to bear that in mind.

Looking forward to hearing about your domestic flights within Colombia, and of course, whether you made that rendezvous with FF76!

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Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:23 pm

Thanks for all your comments so far

Quoting musapapaya (Reply 7):

A friend of mine missed her flight to Aberdeen by passing through security 30 minutes before departure. Stupid idea for BA/LHR to implement something like this. I thought checkin for LHR T5 generally closes 45 minutes before departure. Whatever, we just made an excuse for my friend and said that she was asked by the security to do extra screening, and it was their fault..... She was booked on a later flight eventually.
This requirement will definitely take away a lot of domestic O&D passenger, however, having something like this does not make BA any more puntual than their counterparts.

Well, the 35 min rule is well publicised. If you check in online it will say on your boarding card. If you check in at the airport, the machines will tell you to go straight to security. The only way to miss your flight is if you don't pay attention and dawdle.

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 9):
What an interesting read your TR is.

Thanks!

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 9):
my travel mates do not think the same though.

Mine too. They think I'm wierd for doing these flights, but then always ask how I can fly business classmwith airmiles!

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 9):
I am surprised when the same company cannot print boarding passes for their own flights on the same ticket, puzzling to say the least.

Yeah, still don't know what happened with the check in - not very efficient of LH

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 9):
Enjoy your stay and have a great trip back! Looking forward to reading it!

I will do!

Quoting eicvd (Reply 10):
Great report

Thanks!

Quoting eicvd (Reply 10):
didn't want to stop reading I enjoyed it that much. Really looking forward to part 2 now

Part 2 coming soon!

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 11):
I was so pleased to see the first instalment of your travels to South America.

Glad you enjoyed it!

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 11):
Firstly, a massive THANK YOU for spelling COLOMBIA correctly!! The number of times I have seen it misspelled "COLUMBIA" by other people, including the official press in many different countries, is nothing short of astounding. It has never been spelled Columbia. It's not hard to check the spelling so it beggars belief why it seems to be one of the most common misspelled words (at least for English speakers).

I think that was more luck, as I never really thought about the spelling. Neither looks wrong (in my eyes), so it's chance that I wrote the right one! I suppose its hard because most people pronounce it col-UM-bia, rather than col-OM-bia.

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 11):
I really enjoyed your report. Seems like a nice LH A346 experience for you - was that your first LH 346?

Yeah, my first LH A346, but done 3 other A346, 2 on QR, and 1 on HU.

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 11):
The registration on your first flight out of LHR - the BA flight, indicates it was an A321 (and not an A320)?

Yes indeed, that should have said A321, sorry.

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 11):
Shame you did not get longer overnight at ARN. Looks like a great place to stay for avia geeks! I will have to bear that in mind.

yeah, will have to stay for longer next time

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 11):
Looking forward to hearing about your domestic flights within Colombia, and of course, whether you made that rendezvous with FF76!

Well, the rendezvous is this Friday, so we shall see!
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RE: Part 1: London-Colombia Via ARN/MUC/FRA On BA & LH

Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:42 pm

Hi Gabriel ! ... have a nice time in my favorite continent ... last weekend I had "the gabrielchew weekend" ...hehehe ...I read a series of asia and usa / mexico trip reports ... and now begins "a gabrielchew week" and "Finn in Colombia "... happy stipica  
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RE: Part 1: London-Colombia Via ARN/MUC/FRA On BA & LH

Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:00 pm

Gabriel, well done.

A real good idea to do that routing finally and also with the upcoming meeting much better.
LH service looks nice. Interesting to follow that screen in MUC for the waiting pax. The jump for me please!.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):

“Be invited”? What does that mean?

"Sie sind eingeladen". It´s for free.

Well, I´ve not fixed you´re earlier US/Mexico series, but finally looking for the next part now.

Greetings,
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:29 pm

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 12):
Quoting musapapaya (Reply 7):

A friend of mine missed her flight to Aberdeen by passing through security 30 minutes before departure. Stupid idea for BA/LHR to implement something like this. I thought checkin for LHR T5 generally closes 45 minutes before departure. Whatever, we just made an excuse for my friend and said that she was asked by the security to do extra screening, and it was their fault..... She was booked on a later flight eventually.
This requirement will definitely take away a lot of domestic O&D passenger, however, having something like this does not make BA any more puntual than their counterparts.


Well, the 35 min rule is well publicised. If you check in online it will say on your boarding card. If you check in at the airport, the machines will tell you to go straight to security. The only way to miss your flight is if you don't pay attention and dawdle.

I do agree that it is very well publicised, and we didnt check in online, my friend was not advised by the gate agent, however there were signs on the screens. My ultimate question is whether this measures improve BA's in time performance or not.
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Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:31 pm

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 8):
Where are you off to?

PEK and NRT, will be first time on the A380!  

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RE: Part 1: London-Colombia Via ARN/MUC/FRA On BA & LH

Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:15 pm

Hi Gabriel,

thank you for taking us with you on your journey to Columbia. I also read about LHs pricing mishap in spring, but unfortunately timing was just not right for me. Great that you were able to take advantage of it!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
When I tried to check in online for these flights, I was only allowed to select seats/get boarding passes for the MUC-FRA and FRA-BOG legs, not the ARN-MUC.
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The machine, however, only printed my ARN-MUC boarding pass. I went over to drop my bag at an adjacent desk. I asked the guy if he could print out my other boarding passes, but was told that he couldn’t, and I’d have to ask in MUC – not very coordinated LH!

That's weird. Never had problems with LH self-service machines, always found them to work like a glitch.


We don't have too much reports of South America here, so I'm really looking forward to the Tripreports of your domestic flights (hopefully including some destination pics!) and your joint flight back to Europe. Enjoy your remaining time in Colombia!
 
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RE: Part 1: London-Colombia Via ARN/MUC/FRA On BA & LH

Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:52 am

Quoting stipica (Reply 13):
last weekend I had "the gabrielchew weekend"

Really? I feel so famous now!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 14):
well done.

Thanks

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 14):
LH service looks nice. Interesting to follow that screen in MUC for the waiting pax. The jump for me please!.

Me to if it was a cockpit jumpsead. Not me if it was the jumpset next to L4.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 14):
"Sie sind eingeladen". It´s for free.

Doesn't really translate well into English

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 14):
Well, I´ve not fixed you´re earlier US/Mexico series, but finally looking for the next part now.

Well, please read and enjoy!

Quoting musapapaya (Reply 15):
I do agree that it is very well publicised, and we didnt check in online, my friend was not advised by the gate agent, however there were signs on the screens. My ultimate question is whether this measures improve BA's in time performance or not.

Yeah, it's be iteresting to know if T5 is better timewise than T3.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 16):
PEK and NRT, will be first time on the A380!

Enjoy it. The LH A380s are quite nice, and PEK and NRT are AWESOME!

Quoting volvair (Reply 17):

thank you for taking us with you on your journey to Columbia

No problem!

Quoting volvair (Reply 17):
I also read about LHs pricing mishap in spring, but unfortunately timing was just not right for me. Great that you were able to take advantage of it!
Quoting volvair (Reply 17):
That's weird. Never had problems with LH self-service machines, always found them to work like a glitch.

Well, it was the online checkin that had the issues, and not giving me my ARN-MUC bp in the first place.

Quoting volvair (Reply 17):
We don't have too much reports of South America here, so I'm really looking forward to the Tripreports of your domestic flights (hopefully including some destination pics!) and your joint flight back to Europe. Enjoy your remaining time in Colombia!

Yes, there will be lots of pics in the follwing parts!
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RE: Part 1: London-Colombia Via ARN/MUC/FRA On BA & LH

Wed Oct 19, 2011 1:07 am

Another good report, gabrielchew!

Looks like you had a few nice flights with LH. I'd love to stay in that 747 near Arlanda airport. How cool ! I read a report about the hostel; looks like a cool place to stay for one night.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Is this only for AY pax?

AY had the same set up in Copenhagen when we were about to head back to the USA. The agents manning the area were trying to sign as many people up with AY frequent flier numbers as possible!

Thanks for sharing,

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Wed Oct 19, 2011 4:59 am

Quoting 767747 (Reply 19):
Another good report,

Thanks!

Quoting 767747 (Reply 19):
Looks like you had a few nice flights with LH

Yeah, LH were great

Quoting 767747 (Reply 19):
I'd love to stay in that 747 near Arlanda airport. How cool ! I read a report about the hostel; looks like a cool place to stay for one night.

That place seems designed for a.netters!

Quoting 767747 (Reply 19):
Thanks for sharing,

No problem!
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Wed Oct 19, 2011 5:40 am

Hi Gabriel !

Great first installment in this South America series !

Too bad the BA flight was delayed and that your stay in the Jumbo Hostel was cut short. It seems like a nice place to stay.

I think the legroom on LH's 321s is less than on their 320s but I'm not sure. I've always felt very cramped on LH's 321 and never had that feeling on their 320s.

Food looks really good on FRA-BOG and a nice routing just straight over the Atlantic. I flew LH's D-AIHR MUC-LAX in March this year and had a similiar good food and okay service but I was close to two infants.......I agree that the PTV selection could be a lot better.

Looking forward to the next part!

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RE: Part 1: London-Colombia Via ARN/MUC/FRA On BA & LH

Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:52 am

Hi gabriel

Thanks for sharing this report with us. Quite interested in the ARN-stay, gives me a nice overview of what to expect in january next year when I get there.
The featured aircraft in LH's magazine is indeed a 737-500. I have already flewn on this bird in August last year from FRA to BRU
It seems like you got similar service on your FRA-BOG sector as I did on my MUC-MIA sector last year!!
Looking forward to more!!


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[Edited 2011-10-19 02:15:09]
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RE: Part 1: London-Colombia Via ARN/MUC/FRA On BA & LH

Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:24 am

Hi Gabriel,

A good picture plenty report, thanks for that. You managed to get it online quickly, I wonder if you do all the uploading and typing in a cybercafé or on your own PC and make use of a Wifi network somewhere?
I keep being amazed at LHR’s T5, the transfers on BA are made a lot easier now. FRA has it’s glitches but I find it to be a most ‘entertaining’ airport, lots of great views everywhere you look.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Total airfare for the international flights was GBP 340 (EUR 390/USD 530). Bargain!

€ 390 is a nice price for this routing. LH certainly doesn’t make a profit out of you this time…

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Interestingly, if I had booked the lunchtime B767 flight to ARN, I would have ended up on one of the longhual 767s with PTV in economy.

Why did you not book this then? Too much time in ARN? You could’ve enjoyed the Jumbo Hostel some more then.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
It’s the same for everyone, and if you turn up at security at T-34 minutes, then you’ll find you’ve already been automatically offloaded, even if you’re a Gold member in First.

I don’t know if this is better or worse than the checking in before a certain time.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
explaining to the bemused cabin crew guy that I’d taken some slimline tonic from the lounge (they’ve stopped serving it in Y).

you cheeky b…  

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I guess it was a member of staff that got the jumpseat?

Maybe it was fellow a.netter Infodesk   

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I wondered if this was instead of an inflight service as the flight was scheduled to be too short or bumpy.

I had the same on a LH flight FRA-BRU a few months ago. To speed up service on the very short runs, most likely?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Another B744, this one for MEX though

Great head on shot!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Out of interested, if they went from the current 20 (?) film choice up to say 100 choices, would there be a lot of additional cost/effort/space needed?

Maybe just some extra harddisk space and some extra cash for copyrights?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
continent no. 6 for me, and country no. 76!

Congrats on these stats, amazing!

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RE: Part 1: London-Colombia Via ARN/MUC/FRA On BA & LH

Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:58 am

Hi gabrielchew,

great report, thanks for taking us with you on your long journey down to Colombia. Never been here myself but for sure an interesting country.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Total airfare for the international flights was GBP 340 (EUR 390/USD 530). Bargain!

Wow, now that's indeed an amazing price. And you also put together an interesting itinerary with some short-haul flights before. Plus the stay in the Jumbo hostel (even if only a short one), well done. But why that routing via MUC, for sure there are enough direct flight from ARN to FRA?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I tried to reason that it would save BA money to put me on the earlier flight (as otherwise I%u2019d spend the afternoon drinking in the lounge), but it was to no avail.

Good argument here   Hope you at least enjoyed your lounge visit then and had your fair amount of drinks and meals.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
There was a water trolley, with a %u201Cplease help yourself!%u201D sign at the end of the jetbridge %u2013 never seen this before %u2013 anyone else? I was going to take a glass, but thought there was a high chance of spilling it what with all my hand luggage and camera.

Interesting, never seen something like that before. I would think that this slows down the whole boarding process quite a lot. Plus, as you said, the risk of spilling.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Airbus A340-600 D-AIHH

Cool to get a A346, really looong nice looking airplane.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
There were two choices for lunch, pasta with chicken, or potatoes and beef (?). I went with the former, which was really tasty.

Indeed, looks good. Glad you enjoyed your LH flights, despite some small problems. I think they offer an overall very good product, even in economy.

Now I am looking forward about your adventures within Colombia  

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RE: Part 1: London-Colombia Via ARN/MUC/FRA On BA & LH

Wed Oct 19, 2011 1:01 pm

Quoting The777Man (Reply 21):
Great first installment in this South America series !

Thanks!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 21):
Too bad the BA flight was delayed and that your stay in the Jumbo Hostel was cut short. It seems like a nice place to stay.

Yeah, it's a great hostel. Pricey, but this is Sweden!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 21):
I think the legroom on LH's 321s is less than on their 320s but I'm not sure. I've always felt very cramped on LH's 321 and never had that feeling on their 320s.

The A320 has the new NEK with space saver seats

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 22):
Thanks for sharing this report with us.

No problem!

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 22):
It seems like you got similar service on your FRA-BOG sector as I did on my MUC-MIA sector last year!!

Two hot meals as well? LH is doing something right!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 23):
A good picture plenty report, thanks for that.

No problem

Quoting sultanils (Reply 23):
You managed to get it online quickly, I wonder if you do all the uploading and typing in a cybercafé or on your own PC and make use of a Wifi network somewhere?

Well, I wanted to beat FlyingFinn! I've brought my laptop, and the places I've been staying have wifi. It's been raining A LOT so i've have plenty of time indoors!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 23):
I keep being amazed at LHR’s T5, the transfers on BA are made a lot easier now. FRA has it’s glitches but I find it to be a most ‘entertaining’ airport, lots of great views everywhere you look.

Yeah, T5 is a very easy terminal to use.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 23):
€ 390 is a nice price for this routing. LH certainly doesn’t make a profit out of you this time…

Well, I still paid LH's high fuel surcharges

Quoting sultanils (Reply 23):
Why did you not book this then? Too much time in ARN? You could’ve enjoyed the Jumbo Hostel some more then.

I thought I'd be working that day, so booked the final flight

Quoting sultanils (Reply 23):
you cheeky b…

I actually contacted a member of cabin crew before the flight asking about this, and he said taking the slimline tonic from the lounge was fine!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 23):
I had the same on a LH flight FRA-BRU a few months ago. To speed up service on the very short runs, most likely?

I think it's the drinks that take the time, not handing out a bat of chocolate

Quoting sultanils (Reply 23):
Congrats on these stats, amazing!

I missed one off, Ireland (Doh! I'm 1/2 Irish!) so actually No. 77

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 24):

great report, thanks for taking us with you on your long journey down to Colombia.

No problem

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 24):
Wow, now that's indeed an amazing price. And you also put together an interesting itinerary with some short-haul flights before. Plus the stay in the Jumbo hostel (even if only a short one), well done. But why that routing via MUC, for sure there are enough direct flight from ARN to FRA?

Cos I love flying! I also get bonus miles on the MUC-FRA leg. FlyingFinn had already booked his flights, so on the way back I just copied him!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 24):
Interesting, never seen something like that before. I would think that this slows down the whole boarding process quite a lot. Plus, as you said, the risk of spilling.

Well, I suppose it means LH can say they do a pre-departure drink service in Y!
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RE: Part 1: London-Colombia Via ARN/MUC/FRA On BA & LH

Wed Oct 19, 2011 3:36 pm

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
South American Map

The city of Barranquilla is so misplaced on that map!

Anyway, great report, very detailed. Looking forward to you colombian flights.
 
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RE: Part 1: London-Colombia Via ARN/MUC/FRA On BA & LH

Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:31 pm

Great trip report!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Around 50 minutes before my scheduled departure for ARN, I decided to head over to the A gates. For the record, take the lift next to the T5B Boots to level -2, then go down the stairs.

I never even knew this existed, I guessed there would be some sort of staff tunnel, but not something that big or that flashy! They should use that space for something, e.g. more seating areas, they could even have a sleeping area or something with relaxing chairs where people don't mind not having a view... even more shops! Next time I'm coming through LHR, I'm going to try this one out (maybe go all the way over to C and walk back from there!)
 
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RE: Part 1: London-Colombia Via ARN/MUC/FRA On BA & LH

Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:44 pm

Hi Gab,

You sure are fast with these reports - I guess the downpour at Cartagena kept you a prison of your hotel room and afforded you plenty of time for TR writing...  

Great to read your impressions of the outbound trip as I'm embarking on the same journey (but of course with a bit different routing into FRA) tomorrow morning! Lufthansa transatlantic on the A346 looks very good, so really looking forward to it!

Interesting to read on your journey through ARN as well, considering that I was sitting in the Scandinavian lounge at ARN when I was reading through this report  .

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
However, it wasn’t until I saw FlyingFinn76’s Facebook update about flying to Colombia that I started to think about actual times and dates. A quick email conversation with FlyingFinn76 and I found out that LH had misloaded the fares on flights to BOG from quite a few northern European airports. Instead of a fare of around GBP150 + tax, the fare was a grand total of GBP 0 + tax. FF76 had booked a long weekend to BOG for the end of October.

You are welcome.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
, I decided on a rather long winded ARN-MUC-FRA-BOG-FRA-MUC-HEL routing, along with some

Hey, you have to use up the rather liberal routing rules...  
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):

As all the flights were booked a long way in advance (April), I wasn’t sure what I’d be doing nearer the time of departure.

I had the same problem - that's why I booked such a short trip as I didn't know how many days I could get off...

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I would have ended up on one of the longhual 767s with PTV in economy.

That would've been something special!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
BA don’t have a minimum check in time in Terminal 5 (they do in T3). Instead, there is a last time you have to have your boarding pass scanned by security (35 minutes). It’s the same for everyone, and if you turn up at security at T-34 minutes, then you’ll find you’ve already been automatically offloaded, even if you’re a Gold member in First.

Really? That sounds very harsh to me! But at least it helps them to achieve on time flights... I bet they get a lot of complaints from late pax, "I will never fly with this airline!", "Don't you know who I am? I have this SILVER card!!!" etc.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I caught passing waiter, and ordered a glass of champagne.

Is there champers also in the main terminal lounge or only in the satellite one?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Is this you? Boarded the YUL flight after I took the photo.

Looks like a Finn actually.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
For the record, take the lift next to the T5B Boots to level -2, then go down the stairs.

Wow, that sounds quite well hidden. But a nice discovery! Wonder how long it will stay that way now that the secret's out.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Fifteen minutes after take off, the crew rolled the trolley to the front of Y. Tonight’s catering was a ham and cheese sub roll – very tasty actually.

No Dormen crackers for you this time?  
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Hmmm, nice advert. I think I’ll go to Colombia tomorrow

I can say the same!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
En route to Denmark. As you can see, the moving map also had an earlier return flight from AMS stuck on the screen.

I was very confused by the holding pattern on your departure map shot, but this explains it. Very weird - I guess they forgot to reset the software or something?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
My room, which was surprisingly comfortable and well appointed.

I quite liked my stay at the Jumbo Hostel last December. Especially since I was the only one in my dorm room.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
It’s nice to have finally joined the very exclusive “I’ve had a shower on a plane” club though!

Hey, I am a member of that club as well!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
When I tried to check in online for these flights, I was only allowed to select seats/get boarding passes for the MUC-FRA and FRA-BOG legs, not the ARN-MUC. This was rather odd, especially as the flight was LH operated, and wasn’t over booked or anything. I was told that I would get a seat assignment at the gate.

This is caused by the fact that SK handles LH check in in Scandinavia (but not at HEL any more!) and LH handles SK check in in Germany and their systems do not really talk with each other. That's why you need to do OLCI on the SAS website for Scandinavia-Germany with LH, and likewise OLCI on the LH website for Germany-Scandinavia on SAS. Very confusing and not very well documented, although they do mention it at least on the SAS OLCI pages.

Still it doesn't always work, for example I now have boarding passes for HEL-ARN on SAS and FRA-BOG on LH, but am not able to check in for the ARN-FRA leg. Well, I'll do that at ARN tomorrow I guess...

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Fifteen minutes after take off the trolley with breakfast reached my row – a nice ham and cheese sandwich – lucky I like the combo!

Was it warm? The last time I flew the morning HEL-FRA flight we got a warm cheese and ham sandwich, quite nice.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I headed down to the gate around twenty minutes before scheduled departure to find a lot of people queuing at the gate, and no plane. Hmmm. I took a seat and watched the people in the queue growing restless.

Ahh, Germany. The country where a one minute delay causes major chaos in the überpunctual people!   Also the MUC-FRA route is heavily traveled by businessmen (I used to call the planes "Suitliners") who are well used to the process and LH's punctuality... A friend of mine once flew that route and was the only passenger not wearing a business attire  
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I wondered if this was instead of an inflight service as the flight was scheduled to be too short or bumpy.

SOP on this route - although it sort of escapes me how this speeds things up as they do the drinks run anyway. You yourself reported on this when you were going to Nanking...

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Touchdown in FRA after just 39 minutes, a quarter of an hour late

Talk about heavy schedule padding!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I made a beeline for the lounge after a long wait for immigration. Everyone was dying to leave Germany today. A white beer and a tomato risotto. Very tasty.

You managed to find a seat? That B business lounge is notorious for getting really packed, I've been there when it was standing room only, ugh. Really looking forward to my chance to try the new Senator lounge tomorrow!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I knew that the flight was fully booked, so I knew I’d have a seat mate. I think he was Colombian, but we never spoke, so I don’t know. He was pretty good at getting up so I could get out through.

Hey, my seatmap is still showing some 15-20 free seats, including the one next to me! Fingers crossed it stays that way.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
There were two choices for lunch, pasta with chicken, or potatoes and beef (?). I went with the former, which was really tasty.

Looks good!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Filling in my landing card. That question was phrased a bit strangely

Remember the Ukrainian landing card? I think that is the most hilarious one I've ever filled.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Again, very tasty. Well done LH. More lovely catering!

That looks good too! Well done Lufty.

See you on Friday!
 
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RE: Part 1: London-Colombia Via ARN/MUC/FRA On BA & LH

Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:31 pm

Nice report GC,

I stepped foot in Colombia earlier in the year, wish I'd taken some time outside the ariport though, perhaps next time.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Total airfare for the international flights was GBP 340

- That's a good deal for all the travel you had.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I was directed to the customer services desk to see about changing to the early flight. As I had guesses, I was told that there would be a large change fee of around GBP150. No thanks. I tried to reason that it would save BA money to put me on the earlier flight (as otherwise I’d spend the afternoon drinking in the lounge), but it was to no avail

- It would be good if BA allowed you to travel on an earlier flight for a nominal fee, assuming empty seats of course, gives them an opportunity to re-sell the later seat for last minute bookings,oh well, what do we know!?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
As I had six hours before my flight, I thought it a prudent idea to pace myself on both the food and the booze.

- Good idea given the duration  
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I caught passing waiter, and ordered a glass of champagne

- I must do that next time in the lounge, never done it!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I decided to head over to the A gates. For the record, take the lift next to the T5B Boots to level -2, then go down the stairs.
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
You then end up in a completely deserted area, with a tunnel going left for A, and right for C.

- Thanks for the tip  
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Airbus A320 G-EUXL

- Err A321  
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The machine, however, only printed my ARN-MUC boarding pass. I went over to drop my bag at an adjacent desk. I asked the guy if he could print out my other boarding passes, but was told that he couldn’t, and I’d have to ask in MUC – not very coordinated LH!

- Indeed, seems odd you could not get the other boarding passes issued at the same time.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
There was a water trolley, with a “please help yourself!” sign at the end of the jetbridge – never seen this before – anyone else? I was going to take a glass, but thought there was a high chance of spilling it what with all my hand luggage and camera.

- Seems an odd idea, bottles I get not cups!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
There were two choices for lunch, pasta with chicken, or potatoes and beef (?). I went with the former, which was really tasty.

- Looks pretty ok, nice big chunks of chicken.

All in all a decent bunch of flights, LH longhaul in Y is nothing special, having experienced it myself, but is perfectly fine to get your from A to B and they are not tight on the booze either  

Cheers

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RE: Part 1: London-Colombia Via ARN/MUC/FRA On BA & LH

Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:45 pm

Thanks for all your comments so far!

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 26):
Anyway, great report, very detailed.
Quoting planejamie (Reply 27):
Great trip report!

Thanks!

Quoting planejamie (Reply 27):
I never even knew this existed, I guessed there would be some sort of staff tunnel, but not something that big or that flashy! They should use that space for something, e.g. more seating areas, they could even have a sleeping area or something with relaxing chairs where people don't mind not having a view... even more shops! Next time I'm coming through LHR, I'm going to try this one out (maybe go all the way over to C and walk back from there!)

I think it's strange that BAA keep this such a secret. For a staff only tunnel, it's quite nice. They must be really desperate to keep everyone shopping in T5A!!! There are so many spaces in T5 that could be made so much better. From the South lounges you can see acres of empty 'roof' space, that could be used for some relaxing chairs, or whatnot.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 28):
You sure are fast with these reports - I guess the downpour at Cartagena kept you a prison of your hotel room and afforded you plenty of time for TR writing...

Well, I can be quite tardy, and didn't want to flying AFTER be and publishing BEFORE! I'm actually sitting outside now - not raining!!!!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 28):
You are welcome.

I'll buy you an Aguila on Friday!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 28):
Hey, you have to use up the rather liberal routing rules...

I'm still puzzling why I chose ARN-MUC-FRA-BOG on the way out, and not via DUS, TXL or HAM - never been to those.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 28):
Really? That sounds very harsh to me! But at least it helps them to achieve on time flights... I bet they get a lot of complaints from late pax, "I will never fly with this airline!", "Don't you know who I am? I have this SILVER card!!!" etc.

Well, it is well documented that there is a cut off. Any all frequent travellers would know about it too.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 28):
Is there champers also in the main terminal lounge or only in the satellite one?

All lounges have champagne, but the Biz/Silver lounges is on request only.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 28):
No Dormen crackers for you this time?

Haha, no, although still no choice!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 28):
This is caused by the fact that SK handles LH check in in Scandinavia (but not at HEL any more!) and LH handles SK check in in Germany and their systems do not really talk with each other. That's why you need to do OLCI on the SAS website for Scandinavia-Germany with LH, and likewise OLCI on the LH website for Germany-Scandinavia on SAS. Very confusing and not very well documented, although they do mention it at least on the SAS OLCI pages.

Of course, should have tried the SK OLCI. Will rememeber for next time. Still, you should still be able to OLCI -shuldn't matter who the handling agent is

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 28):
Was it warm? The last time I flew the morning HEL-FRA flight we got a warm cheese and ham sandwich, quite nice.

No, cold. BA don't do hot Y food shorthual

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 28):
Ahh, Germany. The country where a one minute delay causes major chaos in the überpunctual people! Also the MUC-FRA route is heavily traveled by businessmen (I used to call the planes "Suitliners") who are well used to the process and LH's punctuality... A friend of mine once flew that route and was the only passenger not wearing a business attire

I was quite surpised they only announced the delay around 15 mins before STD. Surely they knew the plane was probably still in FRA!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 28):
SOP on this route - although it sort of escapes me how this speeds things up as they do the drinks run anyway. You yourself reported on this when you were going to Nanking...

ON my MUC-FRA-NKG, the chocolcate bar was served along with the drinks

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 28):
You managed to find a seat? That B business lounge is notorious for getting really packed, I've been there when it was standing room only, ugh. Really looking forward to my chance to try the new Senator lounge tomorrow!

Not only did I find a seat, but I got one of the 4 electronic reclining seats!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 28):
See you on Friday!

Looking forward to it! HRC?  
Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 29):
Nice report GC,

Thanks!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 29):
- That's a good deal for all the travel you had.

Very good deal

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 29):
- I must do that next time in the lounge, never done it!

it's not the best champagne, but it's always served nicely chilled!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 29):
- Thanks for the tip

No problem!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 29):
- Err A321

Yeah, someone else noticed that too!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 29):
All in all a decent bunch of flights, LH longhaul in Y is nothing special, having experienced it myself, but is perfectly fine to get your from A to B and they are not tight on the booze either

No, they're not. Big pours of Gin!
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RE: Part 1: London-Colombia Via ARN/MUC/FRA On BA & LH

Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:14 am

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 30):
I think it's strange that BAA keep this such a secret. For a staff only tunnel, it's quite nice. They must be really desperate to keep everyone shopping in T5A!!! There are so many spaces in T5 that could be made so much better. From the South lounges you can see acres of empty 'roof' space, that could be used for some relaxing chairs, or whatnot.

It actually looks too smart to be a staff tunnel, with the mood-lighting and the polished floors etc. I can see it as a backup if the trains ever failed, but they could seriously stick some more shops down there and have it like an underground mall or even an airside hotel area for during transfers!

Is there a similar entrance at Terminal 5C?
 
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RE: Part 1: London-Colombia Via ARN/MUC/FRA On BA & LH

Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:54 am

Hi again,

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 30):
Was it warm? The last time I flew the morning HEL-FRA flight we got a warm cheese and ham sandwich, quite nice.
No, cold. BA don't do hot Y food shorthual

Actually I was asking about that LH breakfast sandwich on ARN-MUC, not BA...
 
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RE: Part 1: London-Colombia Via ARN/MUC/FRA On BA & LH

Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:29 pm

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 32):

Oh, sorry, the sandwich was cold

Quoting planejamie (Reply 31):

I think there must also be one in 5c
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RE: Part 1: London-Colombia Via ARN/MUC/FRA On BA & LH

Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:58 pm

Hey there Gabriel Caramel Chew Chew, great report! 
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Instead of a fare of around GBP150 + tax, the fare was a grand total of GBP 0 + tax.

Wow, now that's a bargain! Still can't believe the fare was GBP 0, how comes? I'm guessing the airline didn't make any revenue on that.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I tried to reason that it would save BA money to put me on the earlier flight (as otherwise I’d spend the afternoon drinking in the lounge)

Well spending the day in the lounge sounds more fun to me.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I got a couple of pots of vanilla ice-cream. The guy sitting on the table over from me asked where I got them from. Clearly, not many people know where the ice-cream freezer is.

Didn't know they made ice cream! On SAS they serve those but as chocolates.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I had done my research (on Flyertalk) and found out about a “secret” passageway back to T5A without having to go through security again

Interesting, so you didn't have to pass through any passport controls? Is this legal?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I caught passing waiter, and ordered a glass of champagne.

Wow that's nice, didn't know they had champagne in a business class lounge these days! 
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Nothing for it, but to have a bit more food!

Clearly you're making your money worth   That's the way to go!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
This, along with the aisle seat are probably the best Y seats on the Airbus fleet as they are wider than normal, and the B seat isn’t sold.

Interesting, so they don't sell the B seat at all, despite being Y? So in that case it's CE comfort all the way!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Starbucks (Sweden’s’ only?)

Yupp, the one and only. Some rumors about them opening up on a second location, in Malmö.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
Fifteen minutes after take off the trolley with breakfast reached my row – a nice ham and cheese sandwich – lucky I like the combo!

Must say for a 2hr + flight, that looks really poor. I mean 1hr flights FRA-AMS get a full proper meal service. Really poor.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
“Be invited”? What does that mean?

Suppose it's just an euphemism for serving poor food  
Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
I just got some bread and jam, some hot chocolate and some water.

Is that really water? Looks like a G&T to me.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
I guess it was a member of staff that got the jumpseat? The flight was 100%+

That's one lucky bastard!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
Everyone was dying to leave Germany today. A white beer and a tomato risotto. Very tasty.

Food looks nice indeed. Once again I'm stunned by the amount of alcohol, 2 G&T's and a liter of beer

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
When I got down to the gate, there were more enormous queues.

Hmm, why didn't you ask the gate agent for a last minute op-up?

Thanks for the report Gab, looking forward to Petteri PP's side of the story! And of course your joint return

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RE: Part 1: London-Colombia Via ARN/MUC/FRA On BA & LH

Wed Oct 26, 2011 10:57 am

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 34):
great report!

Thanks!

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 34):
Wow, now that's a bargain! Still can't believe the fare was GBP 0, how comes? I'm guessing the airline didn't make any revenue on that.

Well, I still paid the enormous fuel supplement

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 34):
Interesting, so you didn't have to pass through any passport controls? Is this legal?

No, no controls. It is legal. If you take the train back, the you have to go through security as you are with other arriving pax.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 34):
Wow that's nice, didn't know they had champagne in a business class lounge these days!

Yup, free champagne in BA's lounges, but only on request

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 34):
Interesting, so they don't sell the B seat at all, despite being Y? So in that case it's CE comfort all the way!

Yup, CE seat.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 34):
Is that really water? Looks like a G&T to me.

Yes Jonas, it's water!

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 34):
Food looks nice indeed. Once again I'm stunned by the amount of alcohol, 2 G&T's and a liter of beer
Quoting LH4116 (Reply 34):
Hmm, why didn't you ask the gate agent for a last minute op-up?

Well, I asked if I could pay for an upgrade, but they said my fare was loo low, and that I couldn't get it for free  
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RE: Part 1: London-Colombia Via ARN/MUC/FRA On BA & LH

Wed Oct 26, 2011 3:58 pm

Wow Gabriel,

Great report. I feel like tagging along with you all the way to Colombia.


Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Total airfare for the international flights was GBP 340 (EUR 390/USD 530). Bargain!

What a steal!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
and if you turn up at security at T-34 minutes, then you’ll find you’ve already been automatically offloaded, even if you’re a Gold member in First

Nice to know BA is consequent.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
However, I had done my research (on Flyertalk) and found out about a “secret” passageway back to T5A without having to go through security again
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
For the record, take the lift next to the T5B Boots to level -2, then go down the stairs.
You then end up in a completely deserted area, with a tunnel going left for A, and right for C.

Thanks for the tip.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
A few views of the T5B lounge. Not too busy, mainly as people spend most of their time in the T5A lounges

Good to know.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Hmmm, nice advert. I think I’ll go to Colombia tomorrow

A good idea!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
En route to Denmark. As you can see, the moving map also had an earlier return flight from AMS stuck on the screen.

What if the moving map showed all assigned flights of that day? 


Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
This B747-212B has had a long and varied history having changed hands no less than 14 times, including stints with Singapore, Pan am, Garuda, Cathay and Tower Air.

Truly world traveler.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
A nice seating area near the check in desks

It looks comfy.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
the very friendly purser commented to the lady behind me “oh, I love your coat”. It’s nice when the cabin crew interact with passengers spontaneously!

That is my LH!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
a nice ham and cheese sandwich – lucky I like the combo!

  


Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
Be invited”? What does that mean?

I think it is something you just have to feel once you are on board.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
The Swedes around me ordered more beer.

Could they become Warsteiner fan?

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
guess it was a member of staff that got the jumpseat? The flight was 100%+

Or anyone of us?

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
was greeted at the door by a smiling lady, holding a big box of chocolate bars. Interesting!

It reminds me of our short flight from Abu Simbel to Aswan two years ago.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
Just a bottle of beer for me, with some music

There is always something about being served beer in a bottle.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
A white beer

Great choice! I had a glass of two during the evening last July in Frankfurt.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
There was a water trolley, with a “please help yourself!” sign at the end of the jetbridge – never seen this before – anyone else?

Me neither. Nevertheless, a nice touch!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
The captain came on the blower and apologized about the catering delay, and said that we should be arriving on time anyway, so not to worry

Did the wait last long?

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
Drink service before lunch. Yes, I had a G&T : )

Your signature drink!   


Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
That question was phrased a bit strangely

‘How long will you stay in Colombia or how long did you stay outside Colombia?’Geez, what was your answer, may I ask?

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 2):
wither rice with honey roasted chicken (my choice)

Good choice!


Thank you for sharing.

Best wishes,
Suryo

[Edited 2011-10-26 09:02:56]
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RE: Part 1: London-Colombia Via ARN/MUC/FRA On BA & LH

Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:01 pm

Quoting akhmad (Reply 36):
Great report. I feel like tagging along with you all the way to Colombia.

Thanks, enjoy the trip!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 36):
What a steal!

Yup, great price

Quoting akhmad (Reply 36):
It looks comfy.

Comfy, but cold near the door

Quoting akhmad (Reply 36):
Or anyone of us?

I should have asked if I could sit there!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 36):
Great choice! I had a glass of two during the evening last July in Frankfurt.

I love White beer!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 36):
Did the wait last long?

About 30 mins. Where's the German efficiency?

Quoting akhmad (Reply 36):
Your signature drink!

Yup  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 36):
‘How long will you stay in Colombia or how long did you stay outside Colombia?’Geez, what was your answer, may I ask?

Um, I think I wrote a week. Strangely phrased question!
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RE: Part 1: London-Colombia Via ARN/MUC/FRA On BA & LH

Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:08 pm

Hi Gabriel,

nice to compare yours and P. flights on the same route, seems you both have enjoyed and you both did a great job in providing us with the details along with some great pictures.

I think that Seatguru or some other similar website states that the seats next to the stairs to the lower toilets are not so good because there is a lot of foot traffic in that aisle. Did you find that was the case? It seems to me that they have a bit more of a private feel because there is no one on the left side.

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RE: Part 1: London-Colombia Via ARN/MUC/FRA On BA & LH

Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:48 am

Quoting SloAir (Reply 38):
nice to compare yours and P. flights on the same route, seems you both have enjoyed and you both did a great job in providing us with the details along with some great pictures.

Thanks! So, who's was better  
Quoting SloAir (Reply 38):
I think that Seatguru or some other similar website states that the seats next to the stairs to the lower toilets are not so good because there is a lot of foot traffic in that aisle. Did you find that was the case? It seems to me that they have a bit more of a private feel because there is no one on the left side.

Well, there is no more traffic in the aisle, but if you were in row 41, the noise from people waiting there (espeicaly at night) might be annoying. I liked the seat during the day, as like you said, they are a bit more private.
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RE: Part 1: London-Colombia Via ARN/MUC/FRA On BA & LH

Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:13 am

Excellent report Gabriel, and good to compare with FF's  
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Total airfare for the international flights was GBP 340 (EUR 390/USD 530). Bargain!

Indeed a bargain, and that's including the BA flights!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
“secret” passageway back to T5A

Interesting...

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
“I’ve had a shower on a plane”

I've had a shower on a train, but that doesn't really count... Still, the Jumbo Hostel is on my to-do list.

It looks from the T5 photos you certainly got your money's worth from the lounges!

Thanks again,

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RE: Part 1: London-Colombia Via ARN/MUC/FRA On BA & LH

Mon Oct 31, 2011 5:01 pm

Quoting signol (Reply 40):
Excellent report Gabriel, and good to compare with FF's

Thanks!

Quoting signol (Reply 40):
It looks from the T5 photos you certainly got your money's worth from the lounges!

Well, I try my best to maximise the lounges! Currently maximising the HAM lounge!
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RE: Part 1: London-Colombia Via ARN/MUC/FRA On BA & LH

Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:09 pm

Hey very nice report and nice to see your journey after reading P's series .

Im going to look through your other parts now  

Love the meals on LH pretty decent.


Thanks for the report.

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RE: Part 1: London-Colombia Via ARN/MUC/FRA On BA & LH

Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:11 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 42):
Hey very nice report and nice to see your journey after reading P's series .

No problem!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 42):
Im going to look through your other parts now

Well, the fourth and final part is now out

Quoting OA260 (Reply 42):
Love the meals on LH pretty decent.

Yeah, they were good
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