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Air Pacific FJ 853: JAN/11: NAN-APW-HNL: J Cabin

Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:28 am

Feedback always appreciated.




I > Background:
Those who know me can attest, I usually combine work engagements with some vacation time. Since been involved in a rather "interesting" project in Sydney, I decided to take a long weekend to visit some friends in Fiji. The beaches there are not my type, so I spent most of the time with the expats in Suva. BTW, scaremongers in Australia and New Zealand should be ashamed - Fiji is probably one of the most stable places I have been to - and if an "unfree military junta" looks like this, give it to me anytime.

Now, going back from Fiji to Venezuela is no mean task, and involves several DAYS of flying. The lack of a Day 5 flight from NAN to LAX meant that most of the routings the agent offered were rather insane - for example, the fastest way quoted was a NAN-ICN-MAD-CCS all on SkyTeam. Since I am not a huge fan of Air Europa, and find SkyPesos rather useless, I refrained from the insane JCL fares being quoted. In the end, after countless research, I was able to self create an itinerary that involved using FJ's 738 1-stop (Apia, Samoa) service to HNL and then onwards on American via LAX and MIA. The only painful thing - from Fiji to Venezuela, ALL on narrow-bodies.

Interestingly, while there has been some Air Pacific reviews, especially on the trans-Pacific flagship LAX-NAN, this would be the first coverage of their other U.S. operation into Hawaii. Now, this might also be the first review of their 73H JCL.

II > Pre-Flight:

a) Before Airport:
Established in 1951 as Fiji Airways, Air Pacific has a network spanning the Pacific Rim, Asia, and the United States. Historically profitable, the airline began slipping into losses around 2004, as political tension, low-cost airlines on Australia-USA, and a decline in traditional inbound tourism markets such as Japan hit their bottom line. Now under smart management, Air Pacific aims to turn that around and has embarked on a strong turnaround strategy.

Air Pacific has a smart website and a smooth booking engine at www.airpacific.com, and I was able to not only browse, but also actually buy my ticket. I could not chose my seat - but that was fine by me. Later on, I could view my itinerary as well. The entire site worked very well and put to shame some of the sites of larger more touted carriers out there.

b) At Airport:
My friend drove me to Nadi around the King's Road and I arrived in Nadi around 1:15 minutes before the flight. Naturally, I was the last to check-in. The agent at the Business Class counter was busy checking in a non-rev traveler and I found that to be in poor taste. Anyways, she was surprised at me checking in so late and having no luggage, and urged me to run to the gate. Overall, a tad dramatic, but down without much rudeness. Anyway, for her sanity, I appeared to "run", and went through a painless immigration and security to the rather modest "BULA" lounge. Interestingly, the lounge had improved and offered far more amenities than during my last visit in 2007.

After a quick snack and downloading of emails, I headed to the boarding area. Now here, they had a "tent" setup to comply with additional screening requirements of U.S. bound flights - it was slightly tacky, but necessary to fly to the U.S. Boarding was in final moments and I was soon cleared to board.

I was greeted by a senior purser on board and got an offer to have my jacket hung. J load in this small cabin was 80% and Y load was around 75%.

Airport - External:

(Nadi Airport)


Check-in:



Airport - Internal:


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(FIDS: Amazing how at 2000, it is over!)

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(Post Security @ NAN)

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Scenes of the tarmac:

NONE



Lounge: Air Pacific's only lounge


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(Offerings have improved for the past years)

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Boarding:


(Gate Area)
NONE

(Boarding)
NONE



III> In-Flight:

a) Service Schedule + Impressions:
On the ground, pre-departure drinks (OJ/Champagne/Water), newspapers, menus, amenity kits. Upon take-off, hot towel, meal service. Same routine at APW, except post take-off, snack offered. Breakfast service prior to arrival at HNL.

The halt at Apia was for around 45 minutes and saw half the JCL and YCL cabin empty out with an equal amount being replaced. We were not allowed to leave the aircraft and the airport was rather uninviting anyways. One thing that is interesting is because Apia lies across the date line, the flight departs Friday evening Nadi time, arrives Thursday late evening Apia time, and then finally gets into Hawaii on Friday morning. Time travel back and forth indeed.

b) Aircraft + Seats:
To me, Air Pacific's colors look better on the 73H than on the 744 - but I recognize I am a minority here. While the cabin did feel a tad old, it was nothing like my experience on BW. The cloth interior had held its own with time and actually felt attractive in blue and red. There was a slight "old-school" feel to it. The seat itself was something I had encountered several times - though both legroom and recline felt below industry averages. I never have quite understood how the awkward footrest enhances the experience ...

Bathroom was well maintained and featured very basic amenities. I could not complain really as the provided amenity kit was very generous.

Aircraft:
(FJ 73H)


Views from Aircraft:

(PX)


(FJ 744)


General Seat Views + Seat Legroom

(Seat)

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(Front of seat)
NONE
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(Seat controls: can someone tell me whose seats are these? Same controls seen in many places)

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(Legroom: average)


Seat Recline + Angle View:


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Cabin:


*
(Small FCL)


(Blanket ++)
NONE

(Bathroom)

(Amenities)


c) Meal + Beverage:
30 minutes into the NAN-APW sector, the meal service commenced. It consisted of a choice of 3 rather modest entrées - cheese plate, fruit platter, or a sandwich. Since I was hungry, I choise the sandwich which read far more interesting than the actual offering. The bread was OK, but the tandoori chicken was dry, and overall left much to be desired. The lime passionfruit tart was also synthetic, but I did enjoy making a Mimosa with the sparkling wine present onboard.

After taking off from APW, there was a drink run where I helped myself to some more Mimosa (the crew was excited to learn a new drink) and nuts.

Prior to landing, breakfast service commenced with some fresh fruit. The fruit was actually in good quantity and far higher than what is seen on airlines these days. Following the fruits, we were offered a fresh croissant and a nice warm cup of tea. Finally, my very unhealthy breakfast of cheese omelet and sausage arrived which was actually very good - though presentation could have been improved. Overall, breakfast was a step up from the dismal dinner. While I recognize this is common on many flights during this hour, and that it was advertized as a light meal, I am sure there are many who do not go to the airport for a 8-9pm departure having a full course meal!

(Menu)

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(Take off drink - Mimosa & Fiji Water - nice local touch)

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(Another one - note the coasters - I think FJ has some of the best coasters!)

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(Dinner)

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(Nuts and drink post take off at APW)

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(Breakfast)

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(Both dinner and breakfast service was from the trolley - personally, I found it a bit excessive for only 2 rows of seats)


d) Inflight Entertainment:
IFE options were lacking and included 3-4 channels playing unmemorable movies through the first generation individual monitor. We were given cheap headsets which left much to be desired. The saving grace was a rather impressive in-flight magazine that show cased all the wonders of the islands of Fiji.

(IFE Unit and Headset)


(Very retro)


(“In-flight magazines”, Boarding Passes, etc.)


e) Crew:
Business Class was taken care of by one single purser. She was not overtly friendly, but had the charm to hold her own. Her greeting at the door was genuine and she was very quick at responding to call requests. Being a red-eye flight, I don't think I was able to form a solid opinion about FJ crew - more so, because I was limited to one crew member.

IV> Post-Flight:
Landing in HNL was smooth, and being one of the first flights meant that I had cleared immigration and customs in a flat 15 minutes.

(@ HNL)

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V> Impressions + Scores:
Air Pacific tries to hold its own in a very difficult competitive situation. As an anchor carrier to Fiji's tourism industry, it obviously plays an important role and I wish it well. I think there are definitely things that it does OK - good website, good ground support at NAN, decent 738 JCL product, good crew. It could work overall on improving its catering and IFE. However, all of this begins with the question on what FJ wants to be. As an average carrier, it does well. I would rank its service to be on par with other such airlines as Air Seychelles and Air Mauritius and higher than what I experienced on Air Tahiti Nui (despite TN having lie-flat seats). It will not win any global accolades and I don't think it aspires to.

A rather good and modest flight - no thumps going either way. If offered choices, I would not mind looking at other airlines - but also keep Air Pacific firmly on my mind.




VI> Other Trip Reports:

PREMIUM:
9.27: JET AIRWAYS **FIRST** (110): LHR-BOM: 10/2010
9.27: THAI AIRWAYS **FIRST** (108): BKK-LHR: 07/2010
8.66: Brussels Airlines (93): FIH-BRU: 01/2010
8.64: Turkish Airlines (59): JFK-IST: 11/2008
8.63: Jet Airways (88): JFK-BRU: 10/2009
8.61: Air Canada (49): YYZ-SCL: 06/2008
8.54: Turkish Airlines (77): GRU-DKR-IST: 04/2009
8.36: Kingfisher (98): BOM-HKG: 01/2010
8.30: Jet Airways (74): KWI-BOM: 04/2009
8.23: United Airlines (72): SFO-SYD: 03/2009
8.11: Aeroflot (33): MOW-DEL: 09/2007
8.05: Air India (80): CCU-JFK: 06/2009
8.04: Korean Air (40): NRT-ICN: 10/2007
8.02: Delta Airlines (24): JFK-CDG: 08/2007
7.82: UNITED AIRLINES **FIRST** (110): SFO-ICN: 10/2010
7.82: Singapore Airlines (06): EWR-SIN: 09/2006
7.66: Sri Lankan (104): DEL-CMB: 07/2010
7.64: Royal Jordanian (91): AMM-YUL: 12/2009
7.61: China Southern (103): LOS-DXB: 04/2010
7.57: Pakistan Airlines (102): ORD-BCN: 06/2010
7.46: LAN (55): YYZ-JFK: 09/2008
7.38: AMERICAN AIRLINES **FIRST** (112): LHR-JFK: 10/2010
7.38: CATHAY PACIFIC **FIRST** (109): HKG-LHR: 10/2010
7.25: Iran Air (88): BOM-IKA: 12/2009
7.23: Air Pacific (120): 01/2011
7.23: Virgin Atlantic (81): BOS-LHR: 07/2009
7.14: Swiss (52): SCL-GRU: 06/2008
7.11: Aer Lingus (105): MAD-IAD: 05/2010
7.11: Austrian (79): VIE-JFK: 06/2009
7.07: Privatair (84): BOM-FRA: 08/2009
7.02: Qatar (68): DOH-JFK: 01/2009
6.96: Etihad (61): JFK-AUH: 12/2008
6.93: Delta Airlines (18): SEA-JFK: 11/2006
6.84: ConViasa (65): CCS-DAM: 01/2009
6.82: Air Burkina (106): BKO-OUA: 06/2010
6.81: Air Canada (17): ICN-YYZ: 10/2006
6.75: Afriqiyah + Libyan (113): CAI-TIP: 11/2010
6.70: KLM (32): EBB-AMS: 08/2007
6.52: Emirates (99): LHR-DXB: 02/2010
6.39: South African (97): EZE-JNB: 01/2010
6.36: Privatair (60): MUC-BOS: 12/2008
6.29: TAM Brasil (96): POA-EZE: 02/2010
6.25: Korean Air (45): NAN-ICN: 10/2007
6.21: Iberia (87): BOS-MAD: 10/2009
6.11: A SKY (107): OUA-COO: 06/2010
6.11: TAP Portugal (53): GRU-OPO: 06/2008
6.00: Gulf Air (75): BOM-BAH: 04/2009
5.88: African Express (89): DXB-NBO: 11/2009
5.75: Singapore Airlines (16): CCU-SIN: 10/2006
5.64: SATA Azores (101): BOS-PDL: 04/2010
5.64: NorthWest (46): ICN-NRT-SEA: 10/2007
5.54: Ethiopian Airlines (95): ADD-BOM: 01/2010
5.46: Icelandair (83): KEF-BOS: 08/2009
5.39: LOT (54): WAW-JFK: 06/2008
5.21: Egypt Air (73): CAI-IST: 02/2009
5.11: Tunisair (115): TUN-ORY: 12/2010
5.07: TACA (66): JFK-SAP: 01/2009
4.89: TAAG Angola (117): TMS-LAD: 12/2010
4.42: Air France: CDG-JNB (25): 08/2007

ECONOMY: Long + Medium:
9.26: Air India (48): JFK-DEL: 02/2008
7.38: Avianca (01): BOG-LIM: 07/2006
7.07: Sri Lankan (62): KWI-CMB: 12/2008
7.00: LAN (94): IPC-SCL: 01/2010
6.81: STP Airways/Euro Atlantic (116): LIS-TMS: 12/2010
6.41: Avianca (78): JFK-BOG: 05/2009
6.41: American Airlines (58): LHR-BOS: 11/2008
6.39: Condor (85): SEZ-FRA: 09/2009
6.26: Jet Blue (21): CUN-JFK: 02/2007
6.11: Caribbean Airlines (119): POS-FLL: 01/2011
6.06: Air Canada (04): YYZ-YVR: 09/2006
5.89: USA 3000 (19): PUJ-BDL: 01/2007
5.85: Spanair (69): MAD-LPA: 02/2009
5.79: Air New Zealand (42): RAR-NAN: 10/2007
5.52: Aerolineas (86): USH-AEP: 10/2009
5.46: TAP Air Portugal (23): OSL-LIS: 05/2007
5.19: Air Europa (70): LPA-MAD: 02/2009
5.16: Iberia (71): MAD-BOS: 02/2009
5.11: Air China (82): FRA-PEK: 08/2009

ECONOMY: Short
8.56: Paramount Airways (38): BLR-MAA: 09/2007
8.56: Kingfisher (64): HYD-CCU: 12/2008
8.24: Kingfisher (14): IXA-GAU: 10/2006
7.87: Indian (34): BOM-MAA: 09/2007
7.72: Alliance Air (13): CCU-IXA: 10/2006
7.57: Indian Airlines (10): DEL-CCU: 09/2006
7.23: West Jet (03): YYC-YVR: 09/2006
7.15: JetLite (37): BOM-GOI: 09/2007
6.98: Air Koryo (100): PEK-FNJ: 04/2010
6.70: Spice Jet (09): CCU-DEL: 09/2006
6.63: Air Fiji (44): NAN-SUV: 10/2007
6.63: Jazeera (67): DAM-KWI: 01/2009
6.58: Air Tran (02): EWR-MDW: 08/2006
6.48: Air India Express (63): CMB-MAA: 12/2008
6.44: CO Micronesia (39): ROR-YAP: 10/2007
6.41: Pacific Sun (43): NAN-SUV: 10/2007
6.37: Skybus (47): SWF-CMH: 02/2008
6.33: Kenya Airways (29): NBO-BJM: 08/2007
6.33: Sky Europe (56): LTN-BTS: 10/2008
6.31: Indigo (15): GAU-CCU: 10/2006
6.31: easyJet (57): BUD-LTN: 11/2008
6.22: Air Link Swazi (28): MTS-JNB: 08/2007
6.22: Air India (36): HYD-BOM: 09/2007
6.13: Adam Air (07): SIN-CGK: 09/2006
6.13: Air Rarotonga (41): RAR-AIT: 10/2007
6.04: Suriname Airways (118): PBM-POS: 01/2011
6.00: Transairways (27): INH-MPM: 08/2007
5.95: Air Canada (05): ALB-YYZ: 09/2006
5.85: SAS Norge (22): OSL-AES: 05/2007
5.81: LAM Mozambique (26): JNB-MPM: 08/2007
5.69: Air Deccan (12): IXZ-CCU: 10/2006
5.67: Rwanda Air Exp (30): KGL-NBO: 08/2007
5.52: Sevenair (114): TOE-TUN: 11/2010
5.37: Felix Airways (92): SCT-SAH: 12/2009
5.11: Aero Republica (76): BOG-CCS: 04/2009
5.07: Go Air (35): MAA-HYD: 09/2007
5.00: Sky Airline (51): IQQ-SCL: 06/2008
4.96: Valuair (08): CGK-SIN: 09/2006
4.78: Air Comet Chile (50): SCL-IQQ: 06/2008
4.74: Fly 540 (31): MYD-LAU: 08/2007
4.33: Viva Aerobus (20): ELP-MTY: 02/2007
4.11: Air Sahara (11): CCU-BOM: 09/2006

(Note on Codes: Y – Economy, J – Business, F – First :: I/D – International/Domestic :: SR/MR/LR – Short/Medium/Long Haul)
(Note on Date: Dates are modified to be +/- 3 days from actual flight date to not reveal actual flight pattern)

VII> Other Pictures:

(Neat amenity kit)

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(Old FJ timetable that I found in my library)
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Avianca
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RE: Air Pacific FJ 853: JAN/11: NAN-APW-HNL: J Cabin

Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:19 am

great report as usual!

also its a pitty to travel from NAN till CCS on narowbody aircrafts...

some days ago I looked for a similar routing but from HNL via HOU to CCS as I am looking forward to make maybe the pacific express by CO Micronesia next year....

Cheers
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RE: Air Pacific FJ 853: JAN/11: NAN-APW-HNL: J Cabin

Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:56 am

You know I'm dying for you to review the infamous ETOPS busting South Pacific to South America crossings of LAN's SYD-SCL-AKL and QF's soon to be SYD-SCL changed from SYD-EZE...

How did SYD-AKL-SCL-CCS work out!?

Pure south pacific routing to South America then EL NORTE!?

Anyways interesting times in the South Pacific...
 
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RE: Air Pacific FJ 853: JAN/11: NAN-APW-HNL: J Cabin

Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:33 am

Good review of Air Pacific!

I read a report about a long-haul with Air Pacific not too long ago; looks like a pretty good airline! I like the presentation of your food in the small J cabin - Nice how secluded it looked.

Thanks for sharing!

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RE: Air Pacific FJ 853: JAN/11: NAN-APW-HNL: J Cabin

Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:41 am

Hi Alex!

Very nice and in tersting report! Fj looks okay especially for F on a narrowbody. It seems they can improve on somethings but they seem to have a good foundation to build on.

The coasters do look great and amenity kit looks nice as well.

Not so great routing back from NAN to CCS but not so many options. Seems crazy to fly NAN-ICN-MAD-CCS!

Looking forward to your next report!

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RE: Air Pacific FJ 853: JAN/11: NAN-APW-HNL: J Cabin

Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:45 am

Quoting Avianca (Reply 1):
great report as usual!

= Thanks a lot friend.

Quoting Avianca (Reply 1):

also its a pitty to travel from NAN till CCS on narowbody aircrafts...

= I know  . It was NOT fun.

Quoting Avianca (Reply 1):
some days ago I looked for a similar routing but from HNL via HOU to CCS as I am looking forward to make maybe the pacific express by CO Micronesia next year....

Cheers
Avianca

= Wow. Cool. There seems to be a lot of cheap flights on CO Mike. Having done it, I recommend  . When are you planning to go?

Quoting willzzz88 (Reply 2):
You know I'm dying for you to review the infamous ETOPS busting South Pacific to South America crossings of LAN's SYD-SCL-AKL and QF's soon to be SYD-SCL changed from SYD-EZE...

= Well, I have not yet crossed that ocean - and it is in my plans. Why are you so curious on it? It has got me intrigued.

Quoting willzzz88 (Reply 2):

How did SYD-AKL-SCL-CCS work out!?
Quoting willzzz88 (Reply 2):

Pure south pacific routing to South America then EL NORTE!?

Anyways interesting times in the South Pacific...

= The flight was really expensive, and given the lack of time savings, completely not worth it.

Thanks a lot for reading everyone.

Saludos,
A.
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RE: Air Pacific FJ 853: JAN/11: NAN-APW-HNL: J Cabin

Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:11 am

Nice! Very interesting....

The fruit actually did look much nicer and better quantity than I've seen on most airlines! Good for them!

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
or example, the fastest way quoted was a NAN-ICN-MAD-CCS all on SkyTeam. Since I am not a huge fan of Air Europa, and find SkyPesos rather useless

This made me laugh! I wish I could say I disagreed...but Delta has been doing a good job devaluing them as fast Amex can give them out!
 
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RE: Air Pacific FJ 853: JAN/11: NAN-APW-HNL: J Cabin

Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:49 am

Hi A.

Thanks for the great report. That brought back fond memories of a trip I did a few years back from SYD to NAN. What I remember is that the crew was really friendly. The cockpit and the cabin crew would always start their announcements with 'Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls...', which I thought was rather a nice touch. And the cabin looked very bright, with nice colours.

In any case, thanks for posting.
 
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RE: Air Pacific FJ 853: JAN/11: NAN-APW-HNL: J Cabin

Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:01 am

Hi A.,

great report as usual! Very nice to see a FJ review, the product is not impressive, but quite solid. I once considered flying LAX-NAN-AKL, but it didn't work out in the end. I still want to try the carrier one day.


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RE: Air Pacific FJ 853: JAN/11: NAN-APW-HNL: J Cabin

Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:32 am

Hi A

Ditto as per the other posters. I really enjoyed your report. It is certainly one of the few, if any, I have read of the mid Pacific hop to HNL from NAN.

Quite an amazing stat that you were on narrowbodies all the way home. Wow! Are you planning to post the rest of your journey home? I'd love to read it.

Despite media hype about the political situation in Fiji, it always has and will be a favourite place for Australian tourists. Most Aussies don't believe (or at best, take onboard) whatever the media says about the political situation. I have numerous friends who go to Fiji often and that does not look like it will change.

Air Pacific has been flying into my hometown airport (BNE) for probably as long as I have been alive, if not longer. I have very faint memories of seeing their BAC1-11 back in the late 70s at the old BNE international terminal. I then watched them slowly evolve during the 80s - I used to love seeing their 732 come and go over our house, and then the 733 and 735 used to be commonplace in BNE as well. I remember in the mid 80s looking up and seeing FJ's first 742 (lsf QF) arriving into BNE although I think at the time it was operating a QF flight. That was a magical site for an 11 year old obsessed with aviation. FJ has provided some great memories for me over the years and I certainly wish them well.

Thanks again P/jet
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RE: Air Pacific FJ 853: JAN/11: NAN-APW-HNL: J Cabin

Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:31 am

Hi A.!

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
a NAN-ICN-MAD-CCS all on SkyTeam. Since I am not a huge fan of Air Europa

uuuaauuu super route ... how much it costs ? ... pity Air Europa offers the cheapest business class from FCO to CCS and I took them seriously into account especially after RICARIZA trip report ( AirEuropa MIA-TFN-MAD And Iberia MAD-FCO (Pics) (by RICARIZA Dec 13 2009 in Trip Reports) ... ok old one but ...)

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Anyway, for her sanity, I appeared to "run",

hahahaha how it looked like ? hehehe but in the end you have the time for "BULA" lounge ...

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Air Pacific's colors look better on the 73H than on the 744

definitely looks better on a smaller scale ... otherwise missed opportunity ...

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
can someone tell me whose seats are these?

B/E Aerospace ... old model of BA business class

thanks ... stipica
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RE: Air Pacific FJ 853: JAN/11: NAN-APW-HNL: J Cabin

Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:56 am

Hey Alex...

Great TR...really nice to see something out of the ordinary, and in regard to the seat controls, that is also similar to GA's B738 J seats, although GA already has newer Gen seats on their B738 with AVOD.

Looking forward to your next TR
 
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RE: Air Pacific FJ 853: JAN/11: NAN-APW-HNL: J Cabin

Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:49 pm

Hi Alex,

You never ceased me with discovery of an exotic airline. Air Pacific is no exception. Very nice report!


Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Take off drink - Mimosa & Fiji Water - nice local touch

A bit of yours and a bit of Fiji.   


Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Time travel back and forth indeed.

Nice to know that it is possible.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Finally, my very unhealthy breakfast of cheese omelet and sausage arrived which was actually very good

Very unhealthy? You should compare it to the plate I had at Schiphol last year before leaving for Barcelona.


Thank you for sharing.

Best wishes,
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RE: Air Pacific FJ 853: JAN/11: NAN-APW-HNL: J Cabin

Mon Oct 24, 2011 11:02 pm

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
note the coasters - I think FJ has some of the best coasters

How did you manage to cope with not having a 'coaster' (napkin) advertising the airlines frequent flyer program or some other branded drinks product?!!!

Thanks for the TR, enjoyed it as always!

Cheers!
 
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RE: Air Pacific FJ 853: JAN/11: NAN-APW-HNL: J Cabin

Tue Oct 25, 2011 8:16 pm

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
The only painful thing - from Fiji to Venezuela, ALL on narrow-bodies.

Ouch. That’s a long way on small planes!

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
NAN-ICN-MAD-CCS

I’d have gone for that routing in J! Interesting that you can get three longhual flights in a row – not many destinations where you can do that without going far out of your way

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(“In-flight magazines”, Boarding Passes, etc.)

Nice selection
http://my.flightmemory.com/shefgab Upcoming flights: LHR-CDG,LHR-BKK-AKL-TBU,EUA-TBU-NAN-WLG,WHK-AKL-BKK-LHR
 
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RE: Air Pacific FJ 853: JAN/11: NAN-APW-HNL: J Cabin

Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:12 pm

Hi Alex

Nice trip report, thanks for sharing it with us!
We don't see to many Island hopper trips over here.
FJ J-class looks to be pretty retro, but being on a exotic airline is always a bonus  


Greetings
Marc
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RE: Air Pacific FJ 853: JAN/11: NAN-APW-HNL: J Cabin

Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:03 am

Quoting Burj (Reply 6):

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
or example, the fastest way quoted was a NAN-ICN-MAD-CCS all on SkyTeam. Since I am not a huge fan of Air Europa, and find SkyPesos rather useless

This made me laugh! I wish I could say I disagreed...but Delta has been doing a good job devaluing them as fast Amex can give them out!

= Ya. Please tell me what's up with DL's Skymiles program. I still have around 200,000 of them and have NEVER been able to find an itinerary to use it in the lowest bucket. Any tips I should know of?

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 7):
Hi A.

Thanks for the great report. That brought back fond memories of a trip I did a few years back from SYD to NAN. What I remember is that the crew was really friendly. The cockpit and the cabin crew would always start their announcements with 'Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls...', which I thought was rather a nice touch. And the cabin looked very bright, with nice colours.

In any case, thanks for posting.

= Thanks. Malaysian also does the "Boys and Girls" part - any idea where it originated?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 8):
Hi A.,

great report as usual! Very nice to see a FJ review, the product is not impressive, but quite solid. I once considered flying LAX-NAN-AKL, but it didn't work out in the end. I still want to try the carrier one day.


PH

= PH, you must go soon!

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 9):

Hi A

Ditto as per the other posters. I really enjoyed your report. It is certainly one of the few, if any, I have read of the mid Pacific hop to HNL from NAN.
Quoting Palmjet (Reply 9):
Quite an amazing stat that you were on narrowbodies all the way home. Wow! Are you planning to post the rest of your journey home? I'd love to read it.

= Not really. The rest were kinda boring flights and I was fading in and out the entire time.

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 9):
Despite media hype about the political situation in Fiji, it always has and will be a favourite place for Australian tourists. Most Aussies don't believe (or at best, take onboard) whatever the media says about the political situation. I have numerous friends who go to Fiji often and that does not look like it will change.

= Agreed. I did not find it to be any signs of a "military junta".

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 9):
Air Pacific has been flying into my hometown airport (BNE) for probably as long as I have been alive, if not longer. I have very faint memories of seeing their BAC1-11 back in the late 70s at the old BNE international terminal. I then watched them slowly evolve during the 80s - I used to love seeing their 732 come and go over our house, and then the 733 and 735 used to be commonplace in BNE as well. I remember in the mid 80s looking up and seeing FJ's first 742 (lsf QF) arriving into BNE although I think at the time it was operating a QF flight. That was a magical site for an 11 year old obsessed with aviation. FJ has provided some great memories for me over the years and I certainly wish them well.

Thanks again P/jet

= P/jet, do you live in BNE? I am going to be flying NAN-BNE-POM soon  .

Quoting stipica (Reply 10):

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
a NAN-ICN-MAD-CCS all on SkyTeam. Since I am not a huge fan of Air Europa

uuuaauuu super route ... how much it costs ? ... pity Air Europa offers the cheapest business class from FCO to CCS and I took them seriously into account especially after RICARIZA trip report ( AirEuropa MIA-TFN-MAD And Iberia MAD-FCO (Pics) (by RICARIZA Dec 13 2009 in Trip Reports) ... ok old one but ...)

= I don't remember - but it was expensive for what I was getting. Remember, none of the routes had a full flat JCL.

Quoting stipica (Reply 10):

hahahaha how it looked like ? hehehe but in the end you have the time for "BULA" lounge ...

= I am one of those annoying passengers who get the "Mr. A, your bags are going to be offloaded" message - tribute to AMS.

Quoting thaia345 (Reply 11):
Hey Alex...

Great TR...really nice to see something out of the ordinary, and in regard to the seat controls, that is also similar to GA's B738 J seats, although GA already has newer Gen seats on their B738 with AVOD.

Looking forward to your next TR

= That is right - forgot GA had those seats as well.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 12):
You never ceased me with discovery of an exotic airline. Air Pacific is no exception. Very nice report!

= Thanks Suryo.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 12):
Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Finally, my very unhealthy breakfast of cheese omelet and sausage arrived which was actually very good

Very unhealthy? You should compare it to the plate I had at Schiphol last year before leaving for Barcelona.


Thank you for sharing.

Best wishes,
Suryo

= The difference is that you can eat this and get away ... mine shows  .

Quoting TravelsUK (Reply 13):

How did you manage to cope with not having a 'coaster' (napkin) advertising the airlines frequent flyer program or some other branded drinks product?!!!

= ?

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 14):
Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
The only painful thing - from Fiji to Venezuela, ALL on narrow-bodies.

Ouch. That’s a long way on small planes!

= Tell me about it  .

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 14):

I’d have gone for that routing in J! Interesting that you can get three longhual flights in a row – not many destinations where you can do that without going far out of your way

= Ya well   - the world is indeed quite a place.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 15):
Hi Alex

Nice trip report, thanks for sharing it with us!
We don't see to many Island hopper trips over here.
FJ J-class looks to be pretty retro, but being on a exotic airline is always a bonus  


Greetings
Marc

= Thanks Marc.

On another note, I am responding to the PM's and emails. I promise I will get to it soon and apologize - have been busy with an airline restructuring with MAJOR labour issues ... you can figure out which one.

Saludos,
A.
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RE: Air Pacific FJ 853: JAN/11: NAN-APW-HNL: J Cabin

Sun Nov 20, 2011 10:31 pm

Alex,

The discontinuity of your report are excellent to follow as they come up "randomly" by worldwide region. keep it up man!

Thanks for sharing an airline that i'll probably never try.
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RE: Air Pacific FJ 853: JAN/11: NAN-APW-HNL: J Cabin

Mon Nov 21, 2011 12:26 am

Hi Alex!
Great TR as usual. However, I noticed you scored FJ's seat 7 out of 10 while in you scored Privatair's seat 5 out of 10 (In your BOM-FRA TR). Honestly, I think Privatair's seat deserves higher score than FJ's. Would you share the specific reason you scored FJ's seat higher than Privatair? Thanks!

Cheers,
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RE: Air Pacific FJ 853: JAN/11: NAN-APW-HNL: J Cabin

Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:47 am

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 17):
Alex,

The discontinuity of your report are excellent to follow as they come up "randomly" by worldwide region. keep it up man!

= Thanks. I try to mix it up  .

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 17):

Thanks for sharing an airline that i'll probably never try.

= Never say never! What is the next one we get to see from you?

Quoting amax1977 (Reply 18):
Hi Alex!
Great TR as usual. However, I noticed you scored FJ's seat 7 out of 10 while in you scored Privatair's seat 5 out of 10 (In your BOM-FRA TR). Honestly, I think Privatair's seat deserves higher score than FJ's. Would you share the specific reason you scored FJ's seat higher than Privatair? Thanks!

Cheers,
Alan

= Alan, my standards have slipped  . Kidding. As I mention, I tend to score based on a relative scale within COS. A Privatair ticket worth 8,000 USD has a different set of expectation than one of mostly domestic F worth 1,000 USD. Also, it is not perfect, and I am continuously learning how to make it better through feedback like yours.

Thank you for it.

Saludos,
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RE: Air Pacific FJ 853: JAN/11: NAN-APW-HNL: J Cabin

Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:33 pm

Another great report..and on a flight I took just about 2 years ago.

Unfortunalty I was in Y all the way, and at that time they made everyone get off at APW, go throught security again and get back on, to the constant complaining of the "ugly Americans". It really was a bit annoying, but was great to just go into the old terminal to see what it was like.
You are correct, it is a tiny an not to attactive airport, but has that old time feel that you don't see much any more.

Actually on Y AIR PACIFIC as pretty good, I managed to get the exit row both ways (on the non stop down too) and there was nobody in the middle seat, as good as you can ask for.

The service was above average for a Y class flight and all flights were right on time.

If anyone is interested, here is a link to the takeoff from HNL to NAN and the approach and landing at NAN.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtZDK954-9A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9I_OautNXms

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