gabrielchew
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Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:27 pm

Part 2: Colombia with Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG



Hi!

Welcome to the second part of my trip report covering my first two flights inside Colombia. I hope you liked the first part, which can be found here.

Not long after I booked my international flights, I started looking at interesting places to fly to whilst in Colombia. There was a company called Easy Fly operating a fleet of Jetstream 31 that I fancied a ride on, as well as one of Copa’s Embraers. Oh, and of course, at least one flight on Avianca, ideally on the rather rare A318. However, it wasn’t until I was in Mexico last month that I actually hammered down some dates. I didn’t find the flight prices terribly good value. I had to discount Easy Fly quite early on as they had very high fares on very random routes. Copa too had high fares, normally a good 50% more than Avianca. Aires, Colombia’s no-frills airlines, have pretty much identical fares to Avianca, just without the frills.

I decided that I wanted to visit Cartagena, Santa Marta (both on the northern Caribbean coast), as well as Medellin, sort of in the middle. In the end I decided on a routing using just Avianca. It was a shame to just use AV, but then again, I did get a pretty good price on a five leg routing:



I had also found an even more interesting routing, which included a flight on Satena’s (the Government/Military owned airline) D328 between Bucaramanga and Medellin on an AV codeshare, which priced out even cheaper. However, the AV website wouldn’t let me book it, despite numerous attempts. A call to the AV call centre only created more questions rather than answers. Why have a codeshare if no one can book it?

Ideal itinerary


The entire itinerary
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After arriving in Bogota, I caught a taxi to my hotel. I had sort of planned to go out that night, but in the end decided to stay in as I wasn’t feeling great (and was dog tired). I just took a short stroll around the block, hoping I wouldn’t be knifed in the process.
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The next morning dawned bright and sunny, not something I was expecting for the rainy season. Before booking I had investigated the weather. October has Colombia’s heaviest rain. Still the air fare was a bargain, and the weather can’t be that bad, can it? Anyway, turns out my first morning in Bogota was warm and sunny. I had chosen the Ibis completely at randomly location-wise. It turned out to be a good choice, as the National Museum was literally a stone’s throw from the door, and also free on Sundays.
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View from my hotel window of the Torre Colpatria
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From the museum, it was a short walk to the bullring. Unfortunately, there was no way in.
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Next stop this morning was the Torre Colpatria, Colombia’s highest building. Not knowing the city’s geography terribly well, I wasn’t able to identify much. Still the views were nice, and I could just about make out the airport in the distance. Compared to last month’s trip up the Torre Latino Americana in Mexico City, Bogota is tiny in comparison.
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After a quick sandwich for lunch, I headed back to the hotel, checked out, and got a cab to the airport. Avianca uses the Puente Aero Terminal in Bogota. This is to all intents and purposes a concrete block, with pre-fab gates attached. Not a very prepossessing place!
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I had managed to check in online, and so headed to the bag drop desk, which had quite a bit queue (although not as big as for the normal desks). After around fifteen minutes I reached the front, where my bag was tagged, and I was given real boarding passes.
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I went straight through security (very quick) to the departures lounge expecting to browse some shops or something. Unfortunately, airside shopping consists of some vending machines, and that’s it. Not very interesting!
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Walking to the plane
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I was quite cautious at first taking photos, but by the end of my week I realised that people don’t care about photographers (unlike in Mexico).

October 2011
Bogota (BOG) – Medellin (MDE)
Avianca AV 9316
Scheduled: 1400-1457 (0h57m)
Actual: 1416-1443 (0h27m)
Airbus A320 N664AV



This flight was fully booked. There was a young family taking up two seats in the row in front, with the dad and toddler sitting in the middle seat next to me. Whilst the toddler wasn’t very noisy, he did manage to kick me a few times, as well as pour juice on me. Karma I’m sure!

I was pretty impressed with Aviancas A320s. Decent legroom, and great AVOD! I didn’t really like their moving map, but it was better than nothing.
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We pushed back a little late.
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Some info shown on the screens after takeoff. Quite god to see that they popaint out the location of the toilets onboard. LH could have done that on their A346 to avoid confusion of the underground toilets.
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I must say, Colombia is simply stunning from the air. I’m glad I managed to do a bit of flying in daylight, as the LH flights were in darkness.
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Service, as befits a very short domestic flight, was a choice of water, coffee or juice. Unfortunately no G&Ts!
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Moving Map
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Thanks to some schedule padding, we landed early into Medellin.
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MDE, in comparison to BOG, is a lovely little terminal. Unfortunately, there is a no direct airside connections possible so I had to go through the arrivals hall, then back up to departures for my flight to Cartagena. En route to security, I picked up a bottle of water.
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It was at security that I discovered that Colombia doesn’t have the ridiculous liquids rule (even for international flights). The plane that just took me from BOG
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My onward flight to CTG
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Airside, I found a café and had a (rather disgusting) cheese and omelette croissant.
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The terminal. Much nicer than BOG, but there were lots of TVs around showing ridiculous penguin cartoons with the volume on full
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The main reason for booking a flight via MDE for my flight up to Cartagena was to guarantee a flight on the rather rare A318, which is pretty much assured on this route as they are all MDE based.

October 2011
Medellin (MDE) – Cartagena (CTG)
Avianca AV 9510
Scheduled: 1540-1650 (1h10m)
Actual: 1548-1636 (0h48m)
Airbus A318 N594EL



This aircraft spent most of her life with Mexicana, before spending Winter 2010 off, then joining Avianca in April this year.

Boarding
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As this was a particularly short aircraft, it thought it best to book a seat near the back so I could fully appreciate the full length on the aircraft! The middle seat was empty, with a teenage girl on the aisle.
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Reasonable legroom
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It was nice to be able to tick off the final member of the A320 family, some 14 years after my first ride on an A320 (a -100 from BIO to LHR).
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Initial impressions were of … a short A319 (not very surprising!). The A318s are the only aircraft in the AV without personal TVs. There were ceiling mounted screens though, which played Friends (in English), although no headphones were given out.
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Taxi
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An AV A330 from Madrid landed just before we departed. This flight was over an hour early!
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More great views enroute to CTG
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Friends being shown – you need your own headphones
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The Avianca magazine was actually pretty good. Lots of interesting articles, and airplane info
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This time I got a juice and water
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Cruise
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The approach to CTG was very scenic, following the coastline.
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gabrielchew
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Posts: 3720
Joined: Tue Aug 02, 2005 5:43 am

RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Thu Oct 27, 2011 9:39 pm

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Taxiing to the terminal
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We parked on stand just as an A320 was boarding for BOG – we got quite a few stares
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A few cabin views
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Welcome to Cartagena. Cartagena has quite an attractive walkway from the planes to arrivals.
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After a very short wait, I was only my way with my bags to the taxi counter, and then on my way to Cartagena
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The next part of my report covering my other Avianca flights from Santa Marta to Medellin, and back to Bogota, will be up soon.

All comments and questions welcome!
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Some of my other TRs:

Part 1: London to Colombia via ARN/MUC/FRA on BA & LH
Part 4, British Airways Mexico City – London, World Traveller Plus
Part 3, USA and Mexico: Around Mexico with Aereo Calafia Cessna 208B & Viva
Aerobus B733

Part 2, USA and Mexico: Sightseeing tour of San Diego Airport, and American
Airlines San Diego - LA – Dallas - San Jose Cabo

Part 1, USA and Mexico: easyJet Luton to Paris, and BA Paris to San Diego
via LHR in World Traveller Plus

British Airways to Scandinavia (LHR-CPH,GOT-LHR)
Where’s my bag? British Airways, Milan to London
What airline am I flying again? Bmi/Lufthansa Italia LHR-MXP
Albania and Macedonia: Austrian LHR-VIE-TIA, Macedonian Airlines SKP-ZRH,
Swiss ZRH-LCY

Part 1, Lufthansa London-Munich-Frankfurt-Nanjing, Economy Class A321 and
A343

Part 2, Cathay Pacific Shanghai to Tokyo via Hong Kong, Business Class A330
and B747-400

Part 3, ANA Boeing B767 Tokyo to Shanghai, & Air China Airbus A340
Shanghai to Beijing, Business Class

Part 4: Chinese domestics, inc. Joy Air Xi’an MA60, Tianjin Airlines ERJ,
and China Express Airways CRJ

Part 5: Lufthansa Beijing-Frankfurt-London City, Economy Class A388 and
E90

5 Countries, 5 Flights, 5 Days, with Ryanair (FR)
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RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:23 pm

Hi Gabriel !

Thanks for a nice reporrt on destinations not often covered! Aviance looks pretty good and nice with PTVs on the 320. Nice also that you got to fly on a 318 something I have yet to do.

Extra thanks for the pics of CTG airport since I probably will go there in January or February next year.

Looking forward to more pics from Cartagena and of yout other flights.

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RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Thu Oct 27, 2011 10:25 pm

Hi Gabriel!

Great continuation of your TR series.
AV seems like a nice airline. And congrats on catching the A318, I'm jealous!  
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I was pretty impressed with Aviancas A320s. Decent legroom, and great AVOD! I didn%u2019t really like their moving map, but it was better than nothing.

Awwh, why don't european airlines have PTV's in their shorthaul aircrafts? I guess it's due to most flights being to short to make it worth it but it would be nice anyways...

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
LH could have done that on their A346 to avoid confusion of the underground toilets.

Underground toilets! Must be one long staircase!  

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RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:20 am

Thanks for the comment so far!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 2):

Thanks for a nice reporrt on destinations not often covered!

No problem

Quoting The777Man (Reply 2):
Aviance looks pretty good and nice with PTVs on the 320.

Yeah, very nice plane

Quoting The777Man (Reply 2):
Nice also that you got to fly on a 318 something I have yet to do.
Quoting deltamartin (Reply 3):
AV seems like a nice airline. And congrats on catching the A318, I'm jealous!

Yeah, was nice to catch the A318

Quoting The777Man (Reply 2):
Extra thanks for the pics of CTG airport since I probably will go there in January or February next year.

It's a nice airport on arrival, no idea about departures

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 3):
Great continuation of your TR series.

Thanks

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 3):
Awwh, why don't european airlines have PTV's in their shorthaul aircrafts? I guess it's due to most flights being to short to make it worth it but it would be nice anyways...

Yeah, hardly cost effective

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 3):
Underground toilets! Must be one long staircase!

Haha, you know what I mean!
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RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:28 am

Hi Gabriel,

interesting second part of your series, Colombia doesn't show up here very often. Good to see you got the A318.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I was quite cautious at first taking photos, but by the end of my week I realised that people don’t care about photographers (unlike in Mexico).

Very good! I hadn't expected that due to the troubled past of the country.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The A318s are the only aircraft in the AV without personal TVs.

They are all ex-Mexicana birds. AV also operates some ex-Mexicana A319s and I'm quite sure those don't have PTVs either.


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RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Fri Oct 28, 2011 8:58 am

Hi Gabriel,

Pretty nice to read about your Avianca experience. A lot of rain indeed as you mentioned somewhere else   Nothing special about the flights however I do like the PTV's throughout the A320 cabin. The A318's a nice catch as well. Apparently there is a relatively dense domestic network, operated by Avianca, judging from the photos out of their inflight mag.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Compared to last month’s trip up the Torre Latino Americana in Mexico City, Bogota is tiny in comparison.

Nice pics from up above however it's indeed difficult to Mexico City in vastness.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
It was nice to be able to tick off the final member of the A320 family, some 14 years after my first ride on an A320 (a -100 from BIO to LHR).

Congrats and a nice catch!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
An AV A330 from Madrid landed

Huh, AV flies MAD-MDE directly?

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RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Fri Oct 28, 2011 2:59 pm

Quoting sultanils (Reply 6):
Huh, AV flies MAD-MDE directly?

AV flies direct to MAD from MDE 2x week, from CLO 6x week and from BOG 7x week. Also to BCN from BOG direct.
 
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RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:16 pm

Quoting sultanils (Reply 6):
Apparently there is a relatively dense domestic network

It is a very dense domestic network not only by AV but also by other carries such as Copa Colombia, Aires (now LAN) plus Satena and Easyfly, and soon to be joined by Ryanair´s new starter Viva Colombia (cousin to Mexico´s Viva Aerobus).
Avianca has over 20 daily flights connecting BOG and MDE and a similar number connecting BOG and CLO. That plus flights operated by other airlines, other cities like CTG, BAQ or BGA also have 10+ flights a day connecting them to BOG. In general Colombian cities are quite large compared to Bogota, several 1 million plus and several 500,000 to 1 million cities, quite distant from each other with huge mountains dividing them.
 
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RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:29 pm

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 5):
interesting second part of your series,

Thanks

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 5):
Very good! I hadn't expected that due to the troubled past of the country.

Yeah, surpised me as well. Maybe the offical policiy is a bit more harsh though

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 5):
They are all ex-Mexicana birds. AV also operates some ex-Mexicana A319s and I'm quite sure those don't have PTVs either.

Oh, hadn't realised.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 6):

Pretty nice to read about your Avianca experience.

Thanks

Quoting sultanils (Reply 6):
I do like the PTV's throughout the A320 cabin

Yeah, they're pretty nice plane

Quoting sultanils (Reply 6):
Apparently there is a relatively dense domestic network, operated by Avianca, judging from the photos out of their inflight mag.
Quoting Bogota (Reply 8):
In general Colombian cities are quite large compared to Bogota, several 1 million plus and several 500,000 to 1 million cities, quite distant from each other with huge mountains dividing them.

Yeah, large cities, and big mountains = lots of flights

Quoting sultanils (Reply 6):
Congrats and a nice catch!

Thanks

Quoting sultanils (Reply 6):
Huh, AV flies MAD-MDE directly?
Quoting Bogota (Reply 7):
AV flies direct to MAD from MDE 2x week, from CLO 6x week and from BOG 7x week. Also to BCN from BOG direct.

Quite a few Spain-Colombia flights. Air Europa is adding MAD-CTG soon I hear too
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RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:06 pm

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 9):

Quite a few Spain-Colombia flights

In addition to the 11 or 12x week IB flies into BOG from MAD.
 
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RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:26 pm

Hi, Gabriel,

really good to see the first part of you´re Colombia domestic flights.
Sure something out of the ordinary here.
These AV livery looks like really nice, saw it a couple of times in MAD.
Well written, nice pictures, looking for more, you know.

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RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:18 pm

Very good report. It's too bad you got to experience the horrible weather we've been having this year thanks to "La Niña".

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
which is pretty much assured on this route as they are all MDE based.

There is an A318 base in MDE, but they're not all based there, just 2 or 3.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
although no headphones were given out.

On most domestic flights with AV, you can ask for them form the crew members, they just don't go by distributing them. They're yours to keep, so a lot of passengers save theirs for future flights.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Next stop this morning was the Torre Colpatria, Colombia’s highest building. Not knowing the city’s geography terribly well, I wasn’t able to identify much. Still the views were nice, and I could just about make out the airport in the distance. Compared to last month’s trip up the Torre Latino Americana in Mexico City, Bogota is tiny in comparison

Well you can't actually see the whole city from Torre Colpatria as some northern areas are blocked by the surrounding hills. It sure is small compared to Mexico City, but at 8.5 million people it's not tiny on any standard.   If it was in Europe, Bogotá would be the second largest city and third largest metropolitan area in the continent.

Thanks for the the report!
 
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RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:48 am

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 11):

really good to see the first part of you´re Colombia domestic flights.

Thanks

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 11):
These AV livery looks like really nice, saw it a couple of times in MAD.

Yeah, it does looks pretty good

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 12):
Very good report. It's too bad you got to experience the horrible weather we've been having this year thanks to "La Niña".

I hadn't realised it was "La Niña". Is it not normally this wet?

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 12):
There is an A318 base in MDE, but they're not all based there, just 2 or 3.

Thanks, didn't know that

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 12):
On most domestic flights with AV, you can ask for them form the crew members, they just don't go by distributing them. They're yours to keep, so a lot of passengers save theirs for future flights.

Well, I had my own pair, so wasn't a problem

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 12):
Well you can't actually see the whole city from Torre Colpatria as some northern areas are blocked by the surrounding hills. It sure is small compared to Mexico City, but at 8.5 million people it's not tiny on any standard. If it was in Europe, Bogotá would be the second largest city and third largest metropolitan area in the continent.

Hmm, BOG is bigger than I thought!
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RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:53 am

Hi Gabriel,

Nice to read something out of the ordinary about Colombian aviation.

I like your photos of the contrasting landscapes - from high rise blocks in Bogota, to the torrential rain, dark clouds and green fields near Medellin to the coastline round Cartagena.

Great that you caught the A318 and I love the cute illustation in the in-flight magazine of it, it looks so short and chubby like it's been squashed   

Happy flying
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RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:10 pm

Hi Gabriel,

Very nice continuation of your Colombian adventure!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
as the National Museum was literally a stone’s throw from the door, and also free on Sundays.

Good to know. How big is the museum?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
but by the end of my week I realised that people don’t care about photographers (unlike in Mexico).

That is what I call a spotter friendly country.   


Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Service, as befits a very short domestic flight, was a choice of water, coffee or juice. Unfortunately no G&Ts!

Are alcoholic beverages served on domestic flights in Colombia?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
It was at security that I discovered that Colombia doesn’t have the ridiculous liquids rule (even for international flights).

Wow, not even liquid rule for international flights? Give me Colombia then at any time!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Lots of interesting articles, and airplane info

Nice!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
Cartagena has quite an attractive walkway from the planes to arrivals

It reminds me of KUL LCCT somehow.


Thanks for sharing and looking forward to your Santa Marta experience with her short runway.

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RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:57 pm

Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
Good to know. How big is the museum?

20,000 objects in the collection, 17 exhibit rooms, 13,000 m2 of exhibit space. An additional 26,000 m2 will be added with the new complex that will be added. The Museum of Modern Art is just a block away from there and together with the Botero Museum and the Gold Museum, which are located in La Candelaria, these are probably the 4 most important musuems in town.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
Are alcoholic beverages served on domestic flights in Colombia?

Only in business class.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
Wow, not even liquid rule for international flights? Give me Colombia then at any time!

Unless the international flight is heading to the USA.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
It reminds me of KUL LCCT somehow.

Its nicer at night, as the corridors have spoted floor lights similar to a runway on both sides of the walkways.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
Santa Marta experience with her short runway.

Best wishes,

Nice to land as it feels you are about to land on water when you touch the runway.
 
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RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:49 pm

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 13):
I hadn't realised it was "La Niña". Is it not normally this wet?

No! Even though rains in the tropics are always strong, Colombia has been experiencing the worse rains in it's history as an independent nation. Since La Niña attacked for nine months that started last year, stopped briefly and started again in august, over two million people have lost their homes to floods and landslides, towns have literally been erased from the map as they collapsed, thousands of acres of food products have been lost and the roads are in horrible condition. It has been a great year for the airlines though, as driving between some major cities in the country is almost impossible.
 
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RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:56 am

Thanks for all the comments so far

Quoting infodesk (Reply 14):
Nice to read something out of the ordinary about Colombian aviation.
Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
Very nice continuation of your Colombian adventure!

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it

Quoting infodesk (Reply 14):
Great that you caught the A318 and I love the cute illustation in the in-flight magazine of it, it looks so short and chubby like it's been squashed

Yeah, it's a nice little aircraft

Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
Good to know. How big is the museum?
Quoting Bogota (Reply 16):
20,000 objects in the collection, 17 exhibit rooms, 13,000 m2 of exhibit space. An additional 26,000 m2 will be added with the new complex that will be added. The Museum of Modern Art is just a block away from there and together with the Botero Museum and the Gold Museum, which are located in La Candelaria, these are probably the 4 most important musuems in town.

Thanks Bogota!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
Are alcoholic beverages served on domestic flights in Colombia?
Quoting Bogota (Reply 16):
Only in business class.

Once again, thanks!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 15):
Wow, not even liquid rule for international flights? Give me Colombia then at any time!

Yeah, it's great not having to deal with that rule!

Quoting Bogota (Reply 16):
Nice to land as it feels you are about to land on water when you touch the runway.

The airport is so close to the sea, it doesn't matter which side of the plane you're on, you'll still have a 'sea view' seat!

Quoting RCS763AV (Reply 17):
No! Even though rains in the tropics are always strong, Colombia has been experiencing the worse rains in it's history as an independent nation. Since La Niña attacked for nine months that started last year, stopped briefly and started again in august, over two million people have lost their homes to floods and landslides, towns have literally been erased from the map as they collapsed, thousands of acres of food products have been lost and the roads are in horrible condition. It has been a great year for the airlines though, as driving between some major cities in the country is almost impossible.

I hadn't realised. Bad flooding everywhere this year
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RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:15 pm

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 18):
The airport is so close to the sea, it doesn't matter which side of the plane you're on, you'll still have a 'sea view' seat!

That is true but I tend to like the A seat better as most of the time the landing is via runway 01 and sense of open sea is better. That said landing on a right hand seat gives you a great view of the snow peaks on a clear day on approach.
 
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RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Mon Oct 31, 2011 4:12 pm

Hey there Gabriel, nice report!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I just took a short stroll around the block, hoping I wouldn’t be knifed in the process.

Hmm, so you didn't know whether the hotel you picked was in a good or bad neighbourhood?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I had chosen the Ibis completely at randomly location-wise. It turned out to be a good choice,

That's nice. Suppose it's always best to stick with the chains. Actually canceled my reservation at the Rayfont in Shanghai, and moved over to the Holiday Inn. Turns out to be a better hotel, complimentary breakfast and closer to the city  
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I was pretty impressed with Aviancas A320s. Decent legroom, and great AVOD! I didn’t really like their moving map, but it was better than nothing.

Nice to see PTV's installed on them. I'm guessing they are used for longer routes as well.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Airside, I found a café and had a (rather disgusting) cheese and omelette croissant.

Hehe, perhaps not the best combo.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Initial impressions were of … a short A319 (not very surprising!).

I found it rather interesting that you went all the way to SA to fly the A318. AF's got plenty of them  

Thanks for sharing!
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RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Mon Oct 31, 2011 6:22 pm

Great report! Love reading about Colombia - really looking forward to your report on the flight into EOH.

Tell everyone how great Colombia is!
 
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RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Mon Oct 31, 2011 7:06 pm

Hi Gab,

Good to read your second part. A familiar flight for me, that BOG-MDE with Avianca A320  . Good to see their product being consistently good.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Aires, Colombia’s no-frills airlines, have pretty much identical fares to Avianca, just without the frills.
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Service, as befits a very short domestic flight, was a choice of water, coffee or juice. Unfortunately no G&Ts!

Considering that the Aires service is coffee or water (and apparently soft drinks as well on longer flights) I'm not sure what the frills are? Business class, lounges and a loyalty program?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Avianca uses the Puente Aero Terminal in Bogota. This is to all intents and purposes a concrete block, with pre-fab gates attached. Not a very prepossessing place!

Yep, not the nicest of terminals that's for sure, but I've seen far worse.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I went straight through security (very quick) to the departures lounge expecting to browse some shops or something. Unfortunately, airside shopping consists of some vending machines, and that’s it. Not very interesting!

Heh yeah, I guess you are not expected to spend much time there! Unless there's a delay, of course...

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
This aircraft spent most of her life with Mexicana, before spending Winter 2010 off, then joining Avianca in April this year.

Here's Mexicana and Mexico haunting you again!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
It was nice to be able to tick off the final member of the A320 family, some 14 years after my first ride on an A320 (a -100 from BIO to LHR).

Congratulations! I'm a bit buggered I missed mine, although luckily I've flown a RO example before. It's an interesting stubby plane...
 
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RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Mon Oct 31, 2011 11:45 pm

Thanks for all the replies!

Quoting Bogota (Reply 19):
That is true but I tend to like the A seat better as most of the time the landing is via runway 01 and sense of open sea is better. That said landing on a right hand seat gives you a great view of the snow peaks on a clear day on approach.

Wrong time of year for snow, but would be cool to see in the winter

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 20):
nice report!

Thanks

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 20):
Hmm, so you didn't know whether the hotel you picked was in a good or bad neighbourhood?

Well, the trip advisor reports were ok, but you can never tell exactly what a place will be like before you arrive

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 20):
That's nice. Suppose it's always best to stick with the chains. Actually canceled my reservation at the Rayfont in Shanghai, and moved over to the Holiday Inn. Turns out to be a better hotel, complimentary breakfast and closer to the city

Which SA)">HI did you book? There are plenty in Shanghai

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 20):
I found it rather interesting that you went all the way to SA to fly the A318. AF's got plenty of them

AF don't fly them anywhere interesting from LHR!

Quoting turk223 (Reply 21):
Great report! Love reading about Colombia - really looking forward to your report on the flight into EOH.

Unfortunately I didn't do EOH, just MDE.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 22):
Considering that the Aires service is coffee or water (and apparently soft drinks as well on longer flights) I'm not sure what the frills are? Business class, lounges and a loyalty program?

I hadn't realised the service on Aires was basically the same as Avianca.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 22):
Heh yeah, I guess you are not expected to spend much time there! Unless there's a delay, of course...

Mmm, it's not a good place to be delayed!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 22):
Here's Mexicana and Mexico haunting you again!

Yeah, keeps following me around
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RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:03 am

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 23):
Wrong time of year for snow, but would be cool to see in the winter

Don´t forget this is the middle of the world, no seasons around here. Eternal snow is always sitting a top of the Sierra Nevada, arguably the highest mountain in the world by the sea. 0 to 5775 mts on a straight line. The only "seasons" we see around here are rainy season and dry season.

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RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Tue Nov 01, 2011 12:53 pm

Quoting Bogota (Reply 24):
Don´t forget this is the middle of the world, no seasons around here. Eternal snow is always sitting a top of the Sierra Nevada, arguably the highest mountain in the world by the sea. 0 to 5775 mts on a straight line. The only "seasons" we see around here are rainy season and dry season.

Hmm, hadn't thought of that! Still, there wasn't any snow to see.
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RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Tue Nov 01, 2011 2:15 pm

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 23):
Which SA)">HI did you book? There are plenty in Shanghai

I picked the Holiday Inn Express in Zhabei. Close to the train station.
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Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:10 pm

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 26):
I picked the Holiday Inn Express in Zhabei. Close to the train station.

Hmm, a better choice than the Rayfont, but still not the best location. You want to be next to the River, somewhere near Nanjing Road/Fuzhou Road. There's nothing to see/do near the station.
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RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:10 pm

Hi Gabriel

Great continuation of your trip report series! I'm amazed by how well the 320's are equipped on such short flights!
Good work catching the 318, i'm amazed by the scenery pics as well!

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RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:19 am

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 28):
Great continuation of your trip report series!

Thanks!

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 28):
I'm amazed by how well the 320's are equipped on such short flights!

Well, I guess that AV orginally thought they'd be used on longer regional routes (which a lot of them are)
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RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:23 pm

Thanks for your TR's and specially, this Colombian seires. I'm really happy you enjoyed your visit and flying aroung the country.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 29):
Well, I guess that AV orginally thought they'd be used on longer regional routes (which a lot of them are)

AV does some shourt haul international flying with the 320s (CCS, UIO, PTY, SJO, GYE, LIM, etc). Longer intl sectors would be Colombia (CLO, MDE, BOG, BAQ, CTG)-MIA. With the 319, they fly the longer, thinner routes that are way to big for the 330 and might require more frequencies, just like MEX. The 319 also serves JFK from BOG as a second daily, and also SCL and IAD. It also served GIG not too long ago. I don't know about the 318 flying internationally, but I once heard and AV management guy they tend to shuffle the 319 and the 318 to IAD depending on the demand.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 2):
A few cabin views

You should've asked the crew for a cockpit picture, most of them wouldn't have a problem with that.


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Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:53 pm

Another nice report. Love the Tourism logo and line  

AV look nice love the J Class seats. Some very nice scenary and some dodgy looking streets  

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RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Fri Nov 04, 2011 12:11 am

Quoting 777jaah (Reply 30):
Thanks for your TR's and specially, this Colombian seires. I'm really happy you enjoyed your visit and flying aroung the country.

No problem, glad you liked it!

Quoting 777jaah (Reply 30):
AV does some shourt haul international flying with the 320s (CCS, UIO, PTY, SJO, GYE, LIM, etc). Longer intl sectors would be Colombia (CLO, MDE, BOG, BAQ, CTG)-MIA. With the 319, they fly the longer, thinner routes that are way to big for the 330 and might require more frequencies, just like MEX. The 319 also serves JFK from BOG as a second daily, and also SCL and IAD. It also served GIG not too long ago. I don't know about the 318 flying internationally, but I once heard and AV management guy they tend to shuffle the 319 and the 318 to IAD depending on the demand.

Thanks for that info, interesting to know

Quoting 777jaah (Reply 30):
You should've asked the crew for a cockpit picture, most of them wouldn't have a problem with that.

Yeah, I should have done. Haven't asked to visit the cockpit in years

Quoting OA260 (Reply 31):
Love the Tourism logo and line

Yeah, it's a great tag line!
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RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:54 pm

Hi GC,

Nice report and pictures, thanks for posting.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
It was a shame to just use AV, but then again, I did get a pretty good price on a five leg routing:

- I had a similar thing in Brazil, TAM were miles cheaper than GOL etc.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I was quite cautious at first taking photos, but by the end of my week I realised that people don’t care about photographers

- I found that too, had almost 8 hours in the AV lounge, nobody was bothered about my camera or binoculars  
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I must say, Colombia is simply stunning from the air

- Agreed, I want to go back and see more of the country, sometimes spotting stops you seeing more of the bigger picture.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
A318, which is pretty much assured on this route as they are all MDE based.

- Good to know, the 318's were not in service when I was there earlier in the year.

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RE: Part 2: Colombia With Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG

Sun Nov 06, 2011 10:59 am

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 33):
Nice report and pictures, thanks for posting.

Hi Mark, glad you enjoyed it!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 33):
- I found that too, had almost 8 hours in the AV lounge, nobody was bothered about my camera or binoculars

Thats the way it should be, people worrying more about their jobs than what people are looking at out of the window

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 33):
- Good to know, the 318's were not in service when I was there earlier in the year.

I hadn't realised the 318s were so new to the fleet. Good timing for me!
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