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PeterJ
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Comparing The Beech 1900D And The Dash 8, Oct 2011

Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:27 am

Hello all. Last month I had to travel home to Western Massachusetts for a wedding. Given that I am was in the middle of my first term of Grad School, and had only a short window to be home, my options were pretty well limited to Air Canada.

My original plan was to fly out on Thursday the 13th of October on a red-eye, then leave Hartford the morning of the 17th. All was set until the Sunday before. While working on a project and watching the news, I saw that the cabin crew was set to go on strike the morning of the 13th. The next morning I got an email from AC offering me a complimentary rebooking. After chatting with my professor, she released me from my Thursday class.

I was surprised to see that I actually had several options to rebook on. I decided to pick a bit of an unusual itinerary (surprise surprise, right?) I noticed that one itinerary had a layover of 8 hours and 55 minutes in Montréal. Seeing as I have only visited Montréal once before, I decided to go for it and treat myself to a free day in Québec. The other plus was one way I would have the Beech 1900D and on the way back the Dash 8. I looked forward to comparing the 2. I have never flown a Dash 8 before.

The only drawback was the flight left Tuesday night. I have class Tuesday evenings, which meant I would have to take my suitcase to UBC with me and go to the airport straight from campus via the bus and the Canada Line.

AC 182
YVR-YUL
Depart: Tue Oct-11, 2011 at 11:35 PM PDT
Arriving: Wed Oct-12, 2011 at 07:10 AM EDT
Airbus A321 Seat: 20F


I will spare a lengthy description of this flight. It was a typical AC domestic Y class flight. The flight was full, and was full of workers from the mining industry coming from the north. The man seated behind me was a bit much. He spent the first 2 hours hitting on the two young Swiss women seated next to him. He then ordered 4 drinks and proceeded to get absolutely blasted. (Which raises an observation: one usually will not be served 4 drinks for themselves at a bar. Why the cabin crew did is beyond me.)

King Edward station on a drizzly Vancouver night
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Destination: YVR!
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I got a seat near the front. The Canada Line is driverless, so if you sit up front you can get great views from Marine Drive station and South:
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I try to minimize the amount of carry on luggage I have so I feel no need to rush when boarding is called
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I settled in and did some work while watching the airshow. The airshow was sort of funky on this flight. As you can see the distance to destination and time to destination didn’t work. Also for about 20 minutes after take off it told us we were on final approach. After finishing my work I ordered a club soda and a scotch and watched some of the IFE.
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The flight was smooth, and before I knew it, we were almost in Montréal
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Since my bags were checked through, I exited the terminal and boarded the aptly numbered 747 express bus to downtown. The bus fare is a day pass for the Montréal transit system which is very convenient.

What was nice was that I had no real plan. My only priority was to get my father, a Canadiens fan a birthday gift. After grabbing breakfast, I strolled around a little.

McGill
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Being from Massachusetts I had to take a photo
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Bell Centre
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I liked the signs in the Metro blocking off the wet stairs
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Stylized Metro entrance in the Old Town
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After a lot of walking it was time to go, so I returned to YUL. As usual I took the opportunity to pick up a Starbucks mug
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Guess who used to own this hangar?
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QR, which I didn’t know served YUL
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AC7434
YUL-BDL
Depart: Wed Oct-12, 2011 at 04:05 PM EDT
Arriving: Wed Oct-12, 2011 at 05:22 PM EDT
Beechcraft 1900D Seat: 7A


There was some confusion on the ground as the boarding time came and went. From my limited French I could pick up that the plane wasn’t there, and the ground staff seemed confused by that. There were no windows looking out though so I can’t say for sure. I grabbed a cup of coffee that I sorely needed by that point and still nothing. Eventually almost 30 minutes late we were set to board.

Love these pics
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I quite like the pitch and layout
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Finally pushing back
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Farmland of Québec
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There was a beautiful view of the sunset on the right side of the plane. Unfortunately I was seated on the left.
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Almost there
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We landed with some force. The braking was strong enough that the foldable seats that were empty folded down from the force. The flight was pretty smooth. I relaxed and read the reformatted enRoute magazine, which is far better than it was previously.
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I enjoyed my extra time home, especially since it meant getting to actually see my sister outside of her wedding day. As the plans were previously I wasn’t going to have much time with her outside of the ceremony. But it was time to head home to Vancouver.

Unlike my previous departures I was able to leave at a more reasonable hour. The handling agent for Jazz waived my baggage fees too! I ate breakfast and settled in to see what was happening at BDL

I quite like the view
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My ride, with the now defunct Murphy terminal behind it
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I went to stretch my legs and actually bumped into my great uncle who had flown in from Alabama for the wedding. We chatted for a bit and went our separate ways, but it was a nice coincidence that our flights left at the same time.

AC7951
BDL-YYZ
Depart: Mon Oct-17, 2011 at 10:25 AM EDT
Arriving: Mon Oct-17, 2011 at 12:22 PM EDT
Dash 8-100 Seats: 7F


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Tarmac views
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Up close and personal. I believe this livery is being phased out though.
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Take off was on time, and we headed to Toronto. In contrast to the flight down, this one was quite turbulent.

Unlike the flights on the Beech, this flight actually has a FA, and there is drink service. Actually you get pretzels too—more than you get on mainline AC!
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Unfortunately the coffee warmer wasn’t functioning right and the coffee was lukewarm. The FA was apologetic and up front about it. I decided to try it, and regretted it.

You get unique views
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There has to be at least one photo like this
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Just over 50% load
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Second service before landing
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The weather was clear and I had some beautiful views
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A crummy photo which doesn’t do the actual view much justice
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The approach was very turbulent; enough to make me a little motion sick actually. We did get some great views of downtown Toronto, though I couldn’t snap a picture as we were making a lot of turns.

After the long long walk from the US regional gates to immigration and through to the domestic hall I decided to check some email and treat myself
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After a few hours it was back to BC

AC147
YYZ-YVR
Depart: Mon Oct-17, 2011 at 03:00 PM EDT
Arriving: Mon Oct-17, 2011 at 04:56 PM PDT
Airbus A320 Seat: 27D


I will again try to keep this section brief. It was another full flight.

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Ah but they had The Simpsons!
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I love the stirrers
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I was surprised to see The Darjeeling Limited on the IFE and so watched that along with The Whistleblower

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It was an unremarkable flight. When I got home I noticed that I had a love note from the TSA inside. I am guessing it is because I had my Xbox packed inside.
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Conclusion:
I am enjoying the prop flights I get to take between YUL/YYZ and BDL. I am not sure which I like better. The Beech is incredibly loud, but the seats I find more comfortable, especially with the single aisle. The Dash 8 was nice though too. It offered better views, and drink service, which is always nice. For now I will say I am partial to the Beech, but I wouldn’t turn down a chance to fly on either one again soon.

In a few weeks I will be headed home again for Christmas. On the way back I will fly CO one last time BDL-EWR-SEA-YVR. More than likely I will be posting about that trip as well, though hopefully with less of a delay.

Thanks for reading!
-Peter


Check out my previous trip reports:
Moving to Vancouver: AC BDL-YYZ-YVR 3 August 2011
Day Trip To The West Coast, BDL-ORD-LAX-IAD-BDL
 
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RE: Comparing The Beech 1900D And The Dash 8, Oct 2011

Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:58 am

Nice pics and good TR. Beech 1900 is on my list for a long time. I have missed when I have lived in Canada for almost 7 years, and here in Europe, there are only handful of operators of this a/c.
 
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RE: Comparing The Beech 1900D And The Dash 8, Oct 2011

Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:32 pm

Looks like you had a nice trip - great that you managed a trip on the Beech - not very easy to find.
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RE: Comparing The Beech 1900D And The Dash 8, Oct 2011

Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:50 am

Hi

nice trip report, the older beach-series seem to get very rare!

Greetings
Marc
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RE: Comparing The Beech 1900D And The Dash 8, Oct 2011

Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:43 pm

Quoting PeterJ (Thread starter):
I am guessing it is because I had my Xbox packed inside.

Bad, bad idea to check these types of items in as checked baggage. You are lucky TSA didn't "confiscate" it and sold it on Ebay/Craigslist.
 
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RE: Comparing The Beech 1900D And The Dash 8, Oct 2011

Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:04 pm

Quoting PeterJ (Thread starter):
As usual I took the opportunity to pick up a Starbucks mug

Nice, I have Starbucks mugs from Barcelona, Seattle and New York.

Quoting PeterJ (Thread starter):
QR, which I didn’t know served YUL

I was up in the Adirondaks last month and the local tv was all Montreal channels, they were running QR commercials nonstop. They are quite different from the ones the run in then NYC market I usually see.
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RE: Comparing The Beech 1900D And The Dash 8, Oct 2011

Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:08 pm

Thanks for the kind words. The Beech is a gem, in my opinion. It may not have a ton of bells and whistles, but it gives me many options from Canada to BDL.

Quoting Phatfarmlines (Reply 4):
Bad, bad idea to check these types of items in as checked baggage. You are lucky TSA didn't "confiscate" it and sold it on Ebay/Craigslist.

You know, you are absolutely right, and I never even considered that until I read your comment. That was the first time I had ever done that. And it is the last time I ever will.

Quoting STT757 (Reply 5):
Nice, I have Starbucks mugs from Barcelona, Seattle and New York.

They are nice souvenirs! After a trip to South Korea and Hong Kong I ended up picking some up. Suddenly it became a thing! As of this summer my collection was a decent size:

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