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More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:00 am

More MD´s for Genoa, please!


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Ciao, dear readers,

I want to catch some more examples of these classic rear engined plane type.
There are still a few around southern side of the alps.
No meeting planned this time. Therefore Mr.S., the usually relaxed guy from the scheduling department should work a bit more in the foreground this time.
"S. is there a place to go with at least the chance for some sunny pictures and also together with a couple of legs on the MD´s?.
And sure, a new departure airport is important again".
This is the exact description to the order.
Well, not as exact as it could be.
But anyway, S. accepted it and told me about some days to search the timetables up and down.
Not that long thereafter he is back on the biz line and showed me five legs with two MD´s, not from STR this time, but hey, that´s the price to pay, isn´t it?.

Here is today´s routemap:



Thanx to:

http://www.gcmap.com/

The updated departure airports log:


Departure Airports II auf einer größeren Karte anzeigen

And the latest done routes:


Tripreporters Flüge II auf einer größeren Karte anzeigen

Some three weeks after the return from the Cote de Azur:

Toulon, A Couple Of CR-K´s And A Nice Meeting (by FLIEGER67 Dec 29 2011 in Trip Reports)

I´am on the road once more.


Sunday, 30.10.2011

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Service AZ 403 operated by Alitalia
Scheduled: 12.00 // 13.55


All five upcoming legs are booked together via Exp.de, the fare real good this way 45.00 Euro´s per flight.
OLCI, do not talk about OLCI with the Skyteam Airlines.
It doesn´t work again here, seat selection is possible, but not the final check-in, strange again.
My car should shuttle me to FRA, on the road at 08.00 am. Tourcare in Neu-Isenburg is the place to go now to park the car for the two days. The fare acceptable, 30.00 Euro´s and the guys there know me well, so it seems.
A quick shuttle drive to the terminal and I´am ready to try the self service machines, no success, nothing else expected.
Well, the girl at the premium counter was nice, only one more pax in front. Two boarding passes printed for the two legs today and on the way down to the security check station.
Also no time to wait here and soon thereafter in the gate area.
Let´s go and explore the AF lounge at FRA T2 now.
AF is on strike today, french strike culture, I know.
Is the lounge open?.
It is, mainly for me
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There is simply no other customer beside me here
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Well stocked offers
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105003.jpg
And really enough open seaters
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105004.jpg
Wait, let me check the screen for my flight.
Inbound from FCO close to 30 minutes early
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And outbound looks like also ok from gate D21
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It´s close to impossible to do a decent pic of the plane at the gate
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105007.jpg
Much better this way
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105008.jpg
The registration is visible with the scheduled A319.
This is EI-IMN "Carlo Collodi", new to me, leg no. 71 on type.
Spotless clean, in service with AZ since 05.08.2011 only. One of 17 in the actual fleet
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A good number of pax in the waiting area for my flight.
Thanx god, 09F, the exit row window for me on this service.
Well, there are two exit rows on the seatmap, but these plane show me exactly one emergency exit on the fuselage during boarding. There is something wrong here. I should better wait till the other pax are all on the plane for more seat options, but there are to much people around.
Let´s go for 150 years in Italy now
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Hah, that´s Italy at it´s best. There are different seating layouts, according to the nice young male FA and so they show always two rows on the seatmap. But there is only one in the plane here and really bad choice, this is row 10 on this particular machine.
There is one more middle aged and nice male FA beside an elderly biz friendly, to say it in a positive way, female on this service.
Acceptable but not the best legroom from seat 09F, the aisle is taken by an grandmother style italian female and thanx god again, the middle seat remains open with a load around 80%
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Cockpit crew is from Italy. The male captain with a nice welcome during taxi and a female FO today.
12.00 am, ontime, 1 hour, 20 minutes to go now for "Alitalia" homebound from the 4000 meters runway 18.
14 cloudy degrees here in FRA.
Something learned from the big french mother
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The safety card
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And the actual magazine, looks nice
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105014.jpg
I always like these title´s on the wing
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Forward cabin view with the bright grey leather seats, the cabin is clean so far
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Some mountains down there. No route or flightlevel informations. Calm along the way
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Service Classica here, free drinks and Biscotti
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Touchdown at the 3880 meters 16L. 1.45 pm, ten minutes ahead to schedule, partly cloudy, but warmer than in FRA with 22 degrees.
Approaching our stand now at FCO
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My machine parked at the gate
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Looks like cute this way
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Time for the next lounge now, isn´t it?.
But wait, I should check the mobile first, if there is a message from S.!.
"Everything ok with the Classica guys and girls from Italy?"
"Well, ontime, a close to new plane, so it feels like, but seating differencies and nothing special with the staff, mixed emotions here. Any preparations from you´re hand?".
"Definitely, there is a Gotto filled up with ligurian white wine here and I will go for it with some Pasta and Pesto Genovese".
"Now that sounds really good, enjoy".

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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:03 am

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Sunday, 30.10.2011

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Service AZ 1391 operated by Alitalia
Scheduled: 17.45 // 18.50


Well, you know, I´am in Italy!. Simply follow the signs upstairs to the lounge and see that there is a construction site where it was a lounge long ago and maybe will be a lounge some years thereafter.
A nice female AZ agent at the transfer desk shows me the way to the other terminal wing with one more AZ lounge.
Is this one really operational?
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It is and the really nice young guy at the entrance decided that the less coloured black and white boarding pass on AF paper from FRA should be immediatelly switched to some green and red coloured real AZ paper.
Nice food on offer
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Well, this is Alitalia country here
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Also not that many customers around
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Well designed furniture
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But close to impossible to go for some pictures through the dirty windows
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105028.jpg
Back to the gates now.
"Marella Burani" or "crust", any idea what suits me better?
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An cute Embraer example
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The gate for my flight to Genoa
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No further info´s so far
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How I like these long MD´s
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Turning to my gate, yes that fit´s like on schedule.
Boarding is a little late, but not that really late, from gate B13, no I´am really not superstitious.
There are three premium biz row´s with two seats only on both sides of the cabin and these seats are open for me with the AF gold status during online seat selection. Sure the place to catch one, 03L for me. Self upgraded to say it this way.
Late boarding helps again, 02L is open, the first row on the plane.
The aisle is also taken by a young female, well not my style to go for a longer chat. The load is close to 100%
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105037.jpg
Spacious, yes, this is really classy spacious
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105038.jpg
You see a seat pocket on the planes fuselage, but there is simply no safety card inside.
So, this is definitely the plane type for the angry flyers. I´am sure, there is no need for any safety incident preparations here on this plane type.
Where is the irony out button, is there someone to show it to me?.
Cockpit crew is from Italy, the captain with a nice short welcome during boarding and he´s once again on the mike short during approach. No route or flightlevel details to notice.
5.45 pm, perfectly ontime, 45 minutes to go now for "Alitalia" in direction Genoa from the 3288 meters runway 25. Leaving 18 partly cloudy degrees behind.
Cabin crew is one elder nice male, one ok elder female together with one also elder really nice female.
Service on this short flight. Biz seating, but no biz service anymore in Italy
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Really oldfashioned green fabric seats, clean so far.
Legroom, it seems my feet are not that long enough here
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The only one of a good number of pictures from the final scenic amazing approach for GOA.Well I´am on the right side with the city and the mountains, but it seems we´re to fast for my camera
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Touchdown on the 2915 meters runway 28, 6.40 pm, ten minutes ahead to schedule, 15 degrees and clear sky.
My classy oldfashioned biz seat
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Ah, here is the chance to spot the registration.
I-DACZ "Castelfidardo" is an MD82, leg no. 11 on type and yes, this is a new registration.
In service with AZ since 29.10.1991.
17 examples are still in the fleet
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Switching on the mobile now, to see the awaited message from S.:
"Be aware when you try to explore the old town by night. There are not only nice women around!".

A finger to disembark, no bag to collect and quickly out in the public for the italian style airport express called Volabus. 6.00 Euro´s one way, now that should be a really fast example.
We had to wait for the pax with bags, we had to wait till the driver finished his smoke, we had to wait till someone with a couple of papers walked around the corner and finally we´re on the, also this sunday evening, crowded roads to the city center.
The main train station Genoa Piazza Principe is my place to leave the bus now
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The monumento Christofero Colombo with some hundred Maghreb style young men around who completely disappeared only seconds thereafter
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It´s pitch black outside, some more strange subjects around, but my hotel should be only some 200 meters to walk from here.
Found, you should ring the bell for someone to open the door for the Nuovo Nord hotel.
A refurbished really oldfashioned building
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105069.jpg
The small lobby
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105072.jpg
Go here for breakfast tomorrow
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105073.jpg
Up the stairs through some long corridors for my room
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Not that large, but well designed and clean
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105052.jpg
Do not miss the chance to walk the city. No rain and moderate temperatures, so let´s go.
This looks like an open pizza oven, somewhere in the not well illuminated old town, with it´s narrow routes, where you lost you´re direction from one corner around the other.
Don´t get me wrong, this feels more like Africa than Italy, also with the people around, but hey, do not loose you´re precious time when you are in a new city
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Down by the sea, the ocean museum Galata
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Anyone followed the movie "Pirates", that´s the "Neptune"
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105059.jpg
I´am addicted more and more for these nightly views
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The Banco di San Giorgio
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Hey, what´s that?
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The Biosphere by night
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Sailing away
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Back to the hotel now, not that many people left on the streets
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Had a good nights sleep despite the street under my window.
More time to walk the city now in daylight.
The train station
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The entrance to the Palazzo Reale
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That´s what I like here with these historic buildings
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105077.jpg
Well preserved
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105078.jpg
How to study in Genoa
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Palms and oldfashioned buildings
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And the blue sky above
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One more indoor garden
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Small streets
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Definitely italian style
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105084.jpg
The "Neptune" again
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105085.jpg
Details
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Surrounded by palm trees
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Looks not that really fitting here
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105088.jpg
The biosphere
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105089.jpg
And a couple of ships in the back
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105090.jpg
The open exhibition area
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105091.jpg
The sun sails
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105092.jpg
Well, it´s Italy, with the Fiat in front off the Banco di San Giorgio
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105093.jpg
The entrance to the first ever banking company worldwide, established back in 1407
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105095.jpg
I´ve never been to Kabul, but it looks like not that far away
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105096.jpg
Old town streets
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105097.jpg
Here is the place to catch my Volaexpress back to the airport
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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:05 am

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Monday, 31.10.2011


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Service AZ 1386 operated by Alitalia
Scheduled: 11.25 // 12.25


What about OLCI?. Well, me or better said AZ, failed again.
After several attempts on the mobile it shows me, that I should check-in at the counters.
Well, it seems three flights in a row is simply to much for AZ´s system.
And to sum it up, there was no free Wifi at the hotel. I´ve had to pay 2.00 Euro´s without any check-in success.
Let´s try my luck at the self service kiosks. To my big surprise, it works. Quickly seats selected and printed.
Welcome to my new departure airport. Flying out of Genoa, which looks like a bit oldfashioned, for the first time
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105105.jpg
MSC Crociere on top
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105106.jpg
Hey, what´s that?. Myjet, a scheduled biz jet operator
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105101.jpg
Anyone here with 700.00 Euro´s to much in the pocket
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105100.jpg
No, I´am not in Sicilia, this is Liguria here, isn´t it?
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MSC Crociere with a private open viewing deck
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Partenze, FCO from gate 4 looks like ok so far
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105107.jpg
No lounge for me here. There is a small landside place for Mille Miglia members only. Strange again within the Skyteam Alliance.
No time to wait at security now and ready for a view to the apron. Biz jets parked here
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105108.jpg
Oldfashioned seaters, but leather is anyway better than metal
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105109.jpg
Arts and Air Dolomiti on the apron
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This is another seaside airport here
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The gate area with not much on offer
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Ah, here it is. The MD in the bright sunlight
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Not that it feels oldfashioned to me
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Boarding for I-DANW "Siena" now, the scheduled MD 82
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Once again new to me and leg no. 12 on type.
In service with AZ since 30.11.1992
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Air Dolomiti heading for MUC
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11.25 am, ontime, 45 minutes back for Roma. Sunny and windy here with 18 degrees.
"Alitalia" leaves GOA from runway 28 like arrivals yesterday.
The ligurian mountains in the distance
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Cockpit crew is from Italy, the captain with a nice welcome right after departure. He´s once again on the mike short during approach later on.
The big A on the wall
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Legroom, sure the legroom is good here again.
02L, you know, the first row window, it´s ok that the aisle is also taken by an elder italian female.
The load is 70%
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105121.jpg
Cabin crew is one elder ok male, together with one younger, nice and one elder biz not friendly female, no smile here at all.
Oldfashioned cabin paneel
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105122.jpg
Turning on the active
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Ready to go
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There is a nasty chemical smell clearly to notice short after departure, but it disappears a minute or so later.
Water, houses and the mountains behind
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The pool by the sea
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Leaving the coastline
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Ah, there is really a safety card on this machine
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That´s a new wing view to me
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105130.jpg
Love it
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105131.jpg
Really comfy here definitely
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105132.jpg
Service is drinks only on this leg.
No further route or flightlevel informations.
The window doesn´t really fit here
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Oldfashioned seaters
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105134.jpg
Some clouds ahead
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Touchdown at 16L like yesterday, 12.15 am, ten minutes ahead to schedule, 22 degrees and partly cloudy.
Seats en detail
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Really oldfashioned
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105137.jpg
But comfy
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Leaving this long bird now
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105139.jpg
Where is the end of these fuselage?
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105140.jpg
The classic green one
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105141.jpg
Alitalia and the blue sky above
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105142.jpg
SU in the distance
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105143.jpg
By bus to the terminal and ready for the lounge.
What about S.?.
"Are you satisfied with the MD´s?".
"Sure, two more for the log, that´s exactly my intention around these trip".

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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:06 am

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Monday, 31.10.2011

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Service AZ 2068 operated by Alitalia
Scheduled: 14.00 // 15.10


I know the way here, definitely.
The same place like yesterday, but with much better food offers
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105144.jpg
Everything ok with my flight from gate B03
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105145.jpg
Well, the bar was staffed yesterday with an ok, but not that especially friendly female. Much nice here today. That´s what I call an attentive and really in a good mood working barkeeper. Well done, a perfect good job here.
He´s not that really fluent in english, but we had a nice conversation here
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105146.jpg
Back to the gates now. We will see a new registration, sure
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105147.jpg
It looks like EI-IME "Isola di Panarea" for me now
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105148.jpg
So it is
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105149.jpg
Leg no. 72 on the A319 like on the schedule and it´s a new one. In service with AZ since 27.06.2002, the second oldest in the fleet.
2.00 pm, ontime, still 23 degrees and partly cloudy.
Runway 25 is the place to go for "Alitalia", Milano- Linate bound, there is no duration info to notice.
Legroom is ok here. Seat 25A, the last row window and thanx to the very nice young male FA.
He directed two elderly italian women to a free row.
Finally three for me here with a 70% load.
There is one more ok young male and also one young ok female here on this plane
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105150.jpg
Cockpit crew is from Italy, the captain is short to hear inflight in a nice style with weather details for Milano.
No route or flightlevel information.
The safety card
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105151.jpg
The clean cabin with the bright grey leather seaters
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105152.jpg
Service, Biscotti and free drinks
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105153.jpg
Cruising in the blue
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105155.jpg
Arrival on the 2442 meters runway 36, 2.55 pm, 15 minutes ahead to schedule, 18 degrees and some haze.
Apron disembarking at LIN. Not that I want to fly these plane on the next leg!
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105156.jpg
Some oil lost on the engine
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105157.jpg
In the terminal now, well it seems LIN is not that really prepared for connecting pax.
There is simply no way for the gates intra security. Strange with this as the main biz airport for Milano close to the city center.
Ok, out in the public and the next security check ahead.
S. messaged me: "Welcome to Milano, anything special around that flight?".
"Three for me, that was sure ok. But much more ok was the barkeeper at the Roma lounge, sure a perfect example how to do the job".



Monday, 31.10.2011

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Service AZ 410 operated by Alitalia
Scheduled: 17.45 // 19.10


Back in the gate area and ready for the next lounge.
The next lounge?. Simply follow the signs, that´s my german education.
But well, I´am in Italy!.
When you follow the signs fo the AZ lounge on the ground floor you will find the BA example, but by no means an AZ lounge.
Also no more signs on the upper level, till I decide for a up
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105158.jpg
Nice seaters and views to the apron
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105160.jpg
My place to rest for the next hours
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105161.jpg
Mainly green on the apron
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105162.jpg
The bar
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105163.jpg
This is fashion country where you also use the hangar for something like Emporio Armani
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105164.jpg
Maybe my plane on taxi
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105165.jpg
Two flights for FRA close to the same time, always good for some confusion
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105166.jpg
My machine for the gate A20
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105167.jpg
Looks like the scheduled A319
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105168.jpg
And also a new registration.
This is EI-IMF "Isole de Tremiti", leg. no 73 on type.
In service with AZ since 28.11.2003.
There is one incident recorded with the plane when it diverted in June 2011 on the way from Linate to Brussels to Geneva with a burning smell on board and the oxygen masks donned
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105170.jpg
Fashion all the way
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105173.jpg
5.45 pm, ontime, still 14 degrees and haze. Again no flight duration iinformation here to follow.
"Alitalia" is leaving LIN from runway 36 like arrivals now.
Bright grey leather seats, clean so far.
Seat view from 10F, the exit row. Never do the same mistake twice. Three for me. The load is 70%
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105174.jpg
Cabin crew is one middle aged nice female together with an middle aged ok male FA.
Working in the cabin is also the top notch FA example around these trip.
One elder supernice male acting really cool with his uniform and Alitalia hat along the whole flight.
He´s proud about his job and this is clearly to notice.
Not so the flightdeck, not a single word from upfront to hear.
The nightly cabin
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105176.jpg
The safety card
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105177.jpg
Legroom is really ok here
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105178.jpg
Service is Biscotti and free drinks
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105179.jpg
The route is Lugano-ZRH-STR, no flightlevel information to follow.
That´s where we want to go
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105180.jpg
Touchdown on the 4000 meters runway 07R, 6.50 pm, 20 minutes ahead to schedule, 14 degrees and clear sky.
Parked on the apron.
Bye now to AZ
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b305/FLIEGER67/I1105/I1105181.jpg
Some minutes to wait for the shuttle,
some more time on the motorway
and with some more pictures soon on the laptop back home not that long thereafter.

Sure, Genoa is an interesting place to visit, but be prepared for some special subjects while walking the old town in the night.
AZ and the MD´s, sure a nice catch here.

One week only now for the next flights.
"The quest for gold on One World and one more new departure airport to catch.

Ciao, comments are welcome and appreciated.
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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:55 am

Hi Markus,

nice to see another of your "catchup" reports  

So how does AZ compare with their reputation? Your flights all looked smooth, ontime, with friendly or professional service. And 5 sectors towards maintaining status  

At least your arrival was ontime, and you could take the bus, unlike a certain Finnish reporter who was forced into a taxi!

After my own visit to LIN, was good to see it again so soon afterwards! And the same route as well, albeit on a different airline. Strange that the "fashon" hangar seems to house only the busses - not so fashonable!

Thanks again!

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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Fri Jan 06, 2012 6:05 am

Hi Markus,

interesting report about this all-Alitalia experience. Genoa looks like a nice city.

Did they switch on the PTVs on EI-IMN? It's interesting to see that they keep adding them to new aircraft. I have never seen them operational, though.


PH
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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Fri Jan 06, 2012 7:44 am

Hello Markus ,

Good to see a TR with AZ . I haven´t seen that many on A.net lately , only a few . Nice and interesting pictures . It seems you had another great trip .

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
OLCI, do not talk about OLCI with the Skyteam Airlines.
It doesn´t work again here, seat selection is possible, but not the final check-in, strange again.

Too bad that there still are many problems with OLCI .


Thank you for posting .


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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:03 am

Hi Markus !

Thanks for another great and interesting report ! Italy looks very nice as always and Alitalia looks okay too. Good that your plan to get on some more M80s worked out as planned.

I'm very surprised at the bad legroom in the exit row on the 319s; you can see on your return that the seat block the exit and that would not be allowed on a US (N) registrered aircraft, I think. Legroom on US carriers' 319s in the exit rwo is very good, probably almost twice the legroom shown in your picture.

Looking forward to your next report!

The777Man
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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:10 am

Hi

Nice trip report, enjoyed the read!
Good to hear you got upgraded on the MD-segments.
Those MD-82 seats look old but classy.
Genova looks interesting as well

Greetings
Marc
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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:10 am

Very cool trip reports, especially for those of us who have never been to Italy!

The photos are really great... What exactly is the "Biospshere" for?

So which lounge did you prefer, the Alitalia lounge or the Air France lounge?
 
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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:59 am

DARWIN will start Geneva to Genoa service soon. Good entry point to tour Cinque Terre. My grandfather said that the cemetry in Genoa is very interesting to visit.
 
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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:21 pm

Hi Markus,

interesting report, great you could have fitted two MDs in one trip. These Alitalia planes look so classic, very nice. Your experience reminded me a lot on my first (and so far only) flight with AZ, similar service, professional crew but not overly friendly and basically no info at all from the flight deck.

Also thanks for the pictures from Genoa, looks like an interesting city. Especially that pirate galleon looks cool.

Greetings
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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:08 pm

Hi Markus,

Yet another really interesting report! To catch a T-tail is always enough reason to leave on a trip if you ask me. Many really nice pics of the MD-80 plus some really nice scenery in Genoa. I have a really good friend living there so I should visit him someday.

I'm flying Alitalia for the first time in February to Sicily, unfortunately not on the MD, but anyway a new airline. I hope there will be no OLCI check in problems then.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
It´s close to impossible to do a decent pic of the plane at the gate

I know this feeling, it is so irritating. Once at HEL an Austrian flight to VIE was boarding and for once the F100 was parked at a jetway instead of bus boarding. Well, some of the passengers were starting to get worried as they did not see any aircraft parked there. So I told them to look closer, and indeed, they saw a bit of the tail there.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Much better this way

Wait? Was there a sudden aircraft change and now you're flying Srilankan Airlines? 
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Something learned from the big french mother

Oh dear, airline city buses can be quite a pain sometimes. I do not know how many people arriving at HEL I have directed from the Finnair city bus to a cheaper city bus. Both buses run to the same place in the end - the AY bus only stops at some hotels on the way. Those AY bus tickets are priced at 6-7 EUR while I can buy them a ticket in the other bus for some 3 EUR...
But sure, who wouldn't be tempted to jump on an airport bus with an airline logo on it?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
I always like these title´s on the wing

Looks very nice! It's the first time I see it.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
"Marella Burani" or "crust", any idea what suits me better?

Hmm, I think I know the answer to this one!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
No, I´am not in Sicilia, this is Liguria here, isn´t it?

Sicilia sounds good, should go there in the near future!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 2):
Ah, there is really a safety card on this machine

Did you borrow it by any chance?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Leaving this long bird now

Absolutely the best picture in this report!  
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 2):
In the terminal now, well it seems LIN is not that really prepared for connecting pax.
There is simply no way for the gates intra security. Strange with this as the main biz airport for Milano close to the city center.
Ok, out in the public and the next security check ahead.

Really? Thanks for this information. I'm connecting in LIN on the way back from Sicily trip. I trust AZ to be pretty on time, my next flight is on SK. We'll hope it works out in the end!

Seems like Alitalia did the job - on time on all your flights, but nothing out of the ordinary. Now I'm looking forward to the next story!

Regards,
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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:19 pm

Hey and great to follow such a number of comments.


@R.:

Quoting signol (Reply 4):

nice to see another of your "catchup" reports

Thank you and there is one more to come.

Quoting signol (Reply 4):

So how does AZ compare with their reputation? Your flights all looked smooth, ontime, with friendly or professional service. And 5 sectors towards maintaining status

Good point with the status, so it was.

Quoting signol (Reply 4):

At least your arrival was ontime, and you could take the bus, unlike a certain Finnish reporter who was forced into a taxi!

My advantage this time!.

Quoting signol (Reply 4):

After my own visit to LIN, was good to see it again so soon afterwards! And the same route as well, albeit on a different airline. Strange that the "fashon" hangar seems to house only the busses - not so fashonable!

Sure I know you´re story, good to compare.


@PH:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 5):

interesting report about this all-Alitalia experience. Genoa looks like a nice city.

Thank you.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 5):

Did they switch on the PTVs on EI-IMN? It's interesting to see that they keep adding them to new aircraft. I have never seen them operational, though.

Never ever. It seems this is show only.


@Daniel:

Quoting LH4532 (Reply 6):

Good to see a TR with AZ . I haven´t seen that many on A.net lately , only a few . Nice and interesting pictures . It seems you had another great trip .

Thank you.

Quoting LH4532 (Reply 6):

Too bad that there still are many problems with OLCI .

Still the case with AZ and the Skyteam airlines.


@Lars:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 7):

Thanks for another great and interesting report ! Italy looks very nice as always and Alitalia looks okay too. Good that your plan to get on some more M80s worked out as planned.

Thank you.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 7):

I'm very surprised at the bad legroom in the exit row on the 319s; you can see on your return that the seat block the exit and that would not be allowed on a US (N) registrered aircraft, I think. Legroom on US carriers' 319s in the exit rwo is very good, probably almost twice the legroom shown in your picture.

Interesting. It´s Italy, you know. There is a special way to go with the rules.


@Marc:

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 8):

Nice trip report, enjoyed the read!
Good to hear you got upgraded on the MD-segments.
Those MD-82 seats look old but classy.
Genova looks interesting as well

Thank you and sure the case with the MD´s. Real classy birds.


@A.:

Quoting burj (Reply 9):

Very cool trip reports, especially for those of us who have never been to Italy!

Thank you.

Quoting burj (Reply 9):

The photos are really great... What exactly is the "Biospshere" for?

It´s part of the ocean museum.

Quoting burj (Reply 9):

So which lounge did you prefer, the Alitalia lounge or the Air France lounge?

Sure the AZ place with the nice barkeeper.


@lychemsa:

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 10):
DARWIN will start Geneva to Genoa service soon. Good entry point to tour Cinque Terre. My grandfather said that the cemetry in Genoa is very interesting to visit.

Thank you and good to know.

@Captain:

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 11):
interesting report, great you could have fitted two MDs in one trip. These Alitalia planes look so classic, very nice. Your experience reminded me a lot on my first (and so far only) flight with AZ, similar service, professional crew but not overly friendly and basically no info at all from the flight deck.

Thank you, same here, you know.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 11):

Also thanks for the pictures from Genoa, looks like an interesting city. Especially that pirate galleon looks cool.

Sure an interesting place to go, definitely.

Greetings,
Markus(FLIEGER67)
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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:33 pm

Ciao Markus,

Back to your beloved Italy, it seems. For sure a good decision, it yielded a nice trip with some ‘other’ more nicely colored MD’s (beside the much featured SAS ones!), some new reg’s and a new departure airport. A job well done by mr S and you of course!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
There are still a few around southern side of the alps.

Yes and they look even better than the ones in the Nordics imho.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
do not talk about OLCI with the Skyteam Airlines.

Please Skyteam, get your act together concerning this one. No OLCI possibilities today is ‘not done’ for a proper airline, let alone alliance. Is it maybe because of the booking by exp.de? I have got the same problem as well with another booking: booked a SN flight via jetair.com, got a booking ref but the booking is not found by de SN website. Mail sent to jetair.com yielded the following answer: ‘maybe the website of SN is down, you should try again later’. As if I’m stupid. With a booking made on SN website, all works fine however. Have to call SN to sort it out, those travel sites are of no use…

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
I always like these title´s on the wing

…and under the wing of course as well.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Self upgraded to say it this way.

If only that would be possible all the time   

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Anyone followed the movie "Pirates", that´s the "Neptune"

Maybe cpt Jack Sparrow was in town?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Partenze

What’s that LH flight to Monaco??

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
There is simply no way for the gates intra security. Strange with this as the main biz airport for Milano close to the city center.

Strange. But isn’t LIN more used as a point to point airport so supposedly not many people connecting?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
There is one incident recorded with the plane when it diverted in June 2011 on the way from Linate to Brussels to Geneva with a burning smell on board and the oxygen masks donned

That one was in the paper, I remember. Sensational journalism it was: high emergency but luckily everyone survived   

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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:31 pm

Hey, good to see more comments.


@R.:

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 12):

Yet another really interesting report! To catch a T-tail is always enough reason to leave on a trip if you ask me. Many really nice pics of the MD-80 plus some really nice scenery in Genoa. I have a really good friend living there so I should visit him someday.

Thank you and you should visit him definitely.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 12):

I'm flying Alitalia for the first time in February to Sicily, unfortunately not on the MD, but anyway a new airline. I hope there will be no OLCI check in problems then.

Wish you good weather for nice pictures.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 12):

I know this feeling, it is so irritating. Once at HEL an Austrian flight to VIE was boarding and for once the F100 was parked at a jetway instead of bus boarding. Well, some of the passengers were starting to get worried as they did not see any aircraft parked there. So I told them to look closer, and indeed, they saw a bit of the tail there.

Absolutely bad for us enthusiasts.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 12):

Wait? Was there a sudden aircraft change and now you're flying Srilankan Airlines? 

Yeah, that´s it!.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 12):

Oh dear, airline city buses can be quite a pain sometimes. I do not know how many people arriving at HEL I have directed from the Finnair city bus to a cheaper city bus. Both buses run to the same place in the end - the AY bus only stops at some hotels on the way. Those AY bus tickets are priced at 6-7 EUR while I can buy them a ticket in the other bus for some 3 EUR...
But sure, who wouldn't be tempted to jump on an airport bus with an airline logo on it?

The very same with AF´s Paris connections.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 12):

Looks very nice! It's the first time I see it.

AZ especially.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 12):

Hmm, I think I know the answer to this one!

Me, too!.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 12):

Sicilia sounds good, should go there in the near future!

You should do it maybe next month.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 12):

Did you borrow it by any chance?

No way.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 12):

Really? Thanks for this information. I'm connecting in LIN on the way back from Sicily trip. I trust AZ to be pretty on time, my next flight is on SK. We'll hope it works out in the end!

Maybe better with gate arrival but this was the situation for me.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 12):

Seems like Alitalia did the job - on time on all your flights, but nothing out of the ordinary. Now I'm looking forward to the next story!

Coming up soon.


@Nils:

Quoting sultanils (Reply 14):

Back to your beloved Italy, it seems. For sure a good decision, it yielded a nice trip with some ‘other’ more nicely colored MD’s (beside the much featured SAS ones!), some new reg’s and a new departure airport. A job well done by mr S and you of course!

Thank you.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 14):

Yes and they look even better than the ones in the Nordics imho.

Good to know.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 14):

Please Skyteam, get your act together concerning this one. No OLCI possibilities today is ‘not done’ for a proper airline, let alone alliance. Is it maybe because of the booking by exp.de? I have got the same problem as well with another booking: booked a SN flight via jetair.com, got a booking ref but the booking is not found by de SN website. Mail sent to jetair.com yielded the following answer: ‘maybe the website of SN is down, you should try again later’. As if I’m stupid. With a booking made on SN website, all works fine however. Have to call SN to sort it out, those travel sites are of no use…

Strange again, sounds possible this way.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 14):

…and under the wing of course as well.

Good point, so it is.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 14):

If only that would be possible all the time

Sure, count me in.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 14):

Maybe cpt Jack Sparrow was in town?

I dont saw him but it seems possible.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 14):

What’s that LH flight to Monaco??

Monaco = Munich with our Italian friends.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 14):

Strange. But isn’t LIN more used as a point to point airport so supposedly not many people connecting?

Sounds possible but anyway I wasn´t impressed.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 14):

That one was in the paper, I remember. Sensational journalism it was: high emergency but luckily everyone survived

Sure the case here.

Greetings,
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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:59 pm

Hi Markus,

really nice to read about your latest Genoa experience. Some good pictures along the way, make an interesting report!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
I want to catch some more examples of these classic rear engined plane type.

Well, that is something I can understand. Great flying machines!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Thanx god, 09F, the exit row window for me on this service.

It seems no last rows anymore since recently...

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Acceptable but not the best legroom from seat 09F,

And probably no recline either, with the real exit row behind...

Thanks for sharing with us!

Eric
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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:26 am

Hi Markus!

As usual a great report, for sure an enjoyable read!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
I always like these title´s on the wing

Indeed a nice detail.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
How I like these long MD´s

Hopefully I'll be flying one of those AZ examples later this year.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The big A on the wall

Stylish! I love when airlines put their motif on the cabin walls.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Love it

Defenently.

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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:36 am

Hi Markus,

Great to see the MD again. The crews on AZ seemed to be consistenly good, always nice to hear. I enjoyed your pictures of Genoa, it was a welcome tonic to see some Italian sunshine!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
now.
AF is on strike today, french strike culture, I know.
Is the lounge open?.

Ah you see, the advantages of strike culture...an empty lounge!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
I always like these title´s on the wing

Very stylish

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Back to the gates now.
"Marella Burani" or "crust", any idea what suits me better?

I couldn't possibly guess!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
You see a seat pocket on the planes fuselage, but there is simply no safety card inside.

Maybe a fellow a.netter had been sitting there before you and added it to their collection?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Where is the irony out button, is there someone to show it to me?.

Have you still not found it?  
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The entrance to the first ever banking company worldwide, established back in 1407

Beautiful building

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Anyone here with 700.00 Euro´s to much in the pocket

No 700E to spare, but a nice idea, advertising the timetable & prices that way.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
There is a nasty chemical smell clearly to notice short after departure, but it disappears a minute or so later.

Thank goodness it was nothing serious.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Simply follow the signs, that´s my german education.
But well, I´am in Italy!.

If only everyone had a German education!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The route is Lugano-ZRH-STR, no flightlevel information to follow.

Any views?

Happy flying
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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:20 pm

Thanks for posting this report, I enjoyed reading it as usual.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
Water, houses and the mountains behind

Wow, that's a great view of the city and the coastline, after departure.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
In the terminal now, well it seems LIN is not that really prepared for connecting pax.
There is simply no way for the gates intra security. Strange with this as the main biz airport for Milano close to the city center

I believe LIN mostly focusses on O&D traffic, so no need for connecting-pax facilities. I don't think AZ offers that many connections on their own website either.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 5):
Did they switch on the PTVs on EI-IMN? It's interesting to see that they keep adding them to new aircraft. I have never seen them operational, though.

I was wondering the same thing. I read in your reply that they weren't on. Just a black screen, not even an airshow or a generic Alitalia logo?
 
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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:53 pm

Hi and good to see more comments.


@Eric:

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 16):

really nice to read about your latest Genoa experience. Some good pictures along the way, make an interesting report!

Thank you.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 16):

Well, that is something I can understand. Great flying machines!

If ever possible to catch one, you know.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 16):

It seems no last rows anymore since recently...

More and more exit rows for me!.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 16):

And probably no recline either, with the real exit row behind...

So it was!.


@Martin:

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 17):

As usual a great report, for sure an enjoyable read!

Thank you.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 17):

Indeed a nice detail.

I like it, you know.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 17):

Hopefully I'll be flying one of those AZ examples later this year.

Good to know, I hope so, too.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 17):

Stylish! I love when airlines put their motif on the cabin walls.

Exactly my opinion.


@Hannah:

Quoting infodesk (Reply 18):

Great to see the MD again. The crews on AZ seemed to be consistenly good, always nice to hear. I enjoyed your pictures of Genoa, it was a welcome tonic to see some Italian sunshine!

Thank you.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 18):

Ah you see, the advantages of strike culture...an empty lounge!

Hah, good point here.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 18):

Very stylish

Also my opinion.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 18):

I couldn't possibly guess!

No idea, absolutely no idea!.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 18):

Maybe a fellow a.netter had been sitting there before you and added it to their collection?

That might be possible.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 18):

Have you still not found it?

Searching till now!.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 18):

Beautiful building

It looks like really special.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 18):

No 700E to spare, but a nice idea, advertising the timetable & prices that way.

I wonder how many people use this service.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 18):

Thank goodness it was nothing serious.

Exactly my opinion.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 18):

If only everyone had a German education!

You never know what happens in this case!.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 18):

Any views?

Sadly not at all.


@R.:

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 19):
Thanks for posting this report, I enjoyed reading it as usual.

Thank you.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 19):

Wow, that's a great view of the city and the coastline, after departure.

Lucky me, the right side on the plane.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 19):

I believe LIN mostly focusses on O&D traffic, so no need for connecting-pax facilities. I don't think AZ offers that many connections on their own website either.

So it seems after some searching.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 19):

I was wondering the same thing. I read in your reply that they weren't on. Just a black screen, not even an airshow or a generic Alitalia logo?

I´ve done lots of flights on AZ and never saw one working.

Greetings,
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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:31 pm

Hi Markus,

This is what I call a birthday present. A guided tour along Genoa and of course exciting flying tours around Italy. It was so entertaining! I was really excited to follow your story until suddenly, it came to an end.  
‘Time flies when you are having fun’

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
"S. is there a place to go with at least the chance for some sunny pictures and also together with a couple of legs on the MD´s?.

I wish that place could have been Semarang.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
It is, mainly for me

Of course! Strike or not, the ambassador needs to be attended.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Service Classica here, free drinks and Biscotti

Yummy, it has been a while that I savored Italian biscotti.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
the really nice young guy at the entrance decided that the less coloured black and white boarding pass on AF paper from FRA should be immediatelly switched to some green and red coloured real AZ paper.

The guy knew the rules of the game. 


Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
"Marella Burani" or "crust", any idea what suits me better?

“Crust”. “Marella Burani” is not blond.   


Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
Where is the irony out button, is there someone to show it to me?.

Hang on! There is a button here. (pushing the button) Does it help?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
"Be aware when you try to explore the old town by night. There are not only nice women around!".

Useful warning of Mr. S.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
Not that large, but well designed and clean

And comfortable, so it seems.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
with some hundred Maghreb style young men

I like this particular description of yours.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
I´ve never been to Kabul, but it looks like not that far away

  


Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 2):
I´ve had to pay 2.00 Euro´s without any check-in success.

How dare they?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 2):
Anyone here with 700.00 Euro´s to much in the pocket

Not me!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 2):
Love it

Count me in!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 2):
Oldfashioned seaters

Call me old fashioned, but I like the seats more than the current European flexible premium seats.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3):
He´s not that really fluent in english, but we had a nice conversation here
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3):
But much more ok was the barkeeper at the Roma lounge, sure a perfect example how to do the job".

You should write a compliment to AZ about him. The barman has deserved it.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3):
He directed two elderly italian women to a free row.

That is how it should have to be. Good job on him.


Thank you so much for sharing another beautiful journey in Italy.

Best wishes,

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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:23 pm

Great trip report! Thanks for writing.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
Don´t get me wrong, this feels more like Africa than Italy

May I ask why?
 
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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:55 pm

Hi Markus,

Nice report and pictures, thnaks for sharing.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
"Marella Burani" or "crust", any idea what suits me better?

- I'll take Marella Burani!

AZ seems to have performed pretty well on your flights, I looked at using them longhaul for my Feb trip but the service reviews are not good, decided not to risk a poor experience.

Good catch of a couple of MD-80's, looking back, my last AZ MD-80 flight was in 1992, last MD-80 flight, a -82 model was in 1997, CO IAH-MIA.

Cheers

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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Sun Jan 08, 2012 7:29 am

Hey, more comments, nice.


@Suryo:

Quoting akhmad (Reply 21):

This is what I call a birthday present. A guided tour along Genoa and of course exciting flying tours around Italy. It was so entertaining! I was really excited to follow your story until suddenly, it came to an end.  
‘Time flies when you are having fun’

Thank you, nice words and warm welcomed.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 21):

I wish that place could have been Semarang.

No more MD´s in Indonesia.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 21):

Of course! Strike or not, the ambassador needs to be attended.

They do it well.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 21):

Yummy, it has been a while that I savored Italian biscotti.

I like it, too.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 21):

The guy knew the rules of the game.

Sure he knows it.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 21):

“Crust”. “Marella Burani” is not blond.

Good point, Suryo.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 21):

Hang on! There is a button here. (pushing the button) Does it help?

It helps!.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 21):

Useful warning of Mr. S.

Well needed here.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 21):

And comfortable, so it seems.

Definitely.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 21):

I like this particular description of yours.

Thanx again.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 21):

How dare they?

It´s Italy, you know.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 21):

Not me!

Not me, too.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 21):

Count me in!

Me, too, you know.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 21):

Call me old fashioned, but I like the seats more than the current European flexible premium seats.

Another one, also for me.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 21):

You should write a compliment to AZ about him. The barman has deserved it.

I should do so.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 21):

That is how it should have to be. Good job on him.

Exactly.


@alsberg:

Quoting alsberg (Reply 22):
Great trip report! Thanks for writing.

Thank you.

Quoting alsberg (Reply 22):

May I ask why?

I was in Cairo, Tunis, Marrakech lately and it feels somewhat like this with it´s small streets, old houses and more african style fake product dealers around than customers.


@Mark:

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 23):

Nice report and pictures, thnaks for sharing.

Thank you.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 23):

- I'll take Marella Burani!

Well done, Mark.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 23):

AZ seems to have performed pretty well on your flights, I looked at using them longhaul for my Feb trip but the service reviews are not good, decided not to risk a poor experience.

No longhaul on AZ for me till now, sounds interesting.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 23):

Good catch of a couple of MD-80's, looking back, my last AZ MD-80 flight was in 1992, last MD-80 flight, a -82 model was in 1997, CO IAH-MIA.

That´s a pretty long time ago, definitely.

Greetings,
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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:02 am

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 24):
No more MD´s in Indonesia.

Markus; Lion Air flies MD's still. Got to see quite a few in late October 2011.

Still an option to do, it seems.

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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:54 pm

Hoi, Eric,

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 25):

Markus; Lion Air flies MD's still. Got to see quite a few in late October 2011.

Still an option to do, it seems.

Sounds like a real good idea.

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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:08 am

Hi Markus,

Good to see another episode of your adventures in backlog land. Looks very familiar to me having visited Genoa back in July, although my experience with Blu-Express was quite a horrible one. Looks like you took pretty much the same walk as I did during the morning before my flight - Genoa certainly is a nice and beautiful city! Sure there are tons of riff raff around, but you can mostly ignore them. And if you can't a few choice Finnish swearwords always do the trick.

A bit disappointment at the lack of variety in the airlines, maybe some Alitalia Express E170s would've been a nice interlude, or how about an open jaw and Blu-Express to fill the gap (no, don't do it it is a horrible airline!  ).

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
There are still a few around southern side of the alps.

Don't forget the North - plenty of T-tails flying around!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
OLCI, do not talk about OLCI with the Skyteam Airlines.
It doesn´t work again here, seat selection is possible, but not the final check-in, strange again.

Lame.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Let´s go and explore the AF lounge at FRA T2 now.
It is, mainly for me

Hey, AY and BT logos there as well. Nice.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Well designed furniture

Hmm, looks much better than the nasty wildcard lounge opposite where I had to spend quite a few hours last year, coincidentally also going and coming from GOA...

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
"Marella Burani" or "crust", any idea what suits me better?

My my, what a well endowed... coat!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The gate for my flight to Genoa

Ahh, these FCO gates are just so ugly. Like the whole place actually.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
There are three premium biz row´s with two seats only on both sides of the cabin and these seats are open for me with the AF gold status during online seat selection. Sure the place to catch one, 03L for me. Self upgraded to say it this way.

Markus, Markus. You certainly know how to mislead people - you mentioned two upgrades on your trip but those aren't upgrades. Sure you got some preferred seating thanks to status, but an upgrade it isn't.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The only one of a good number of pictures from the final scenic amazing approach for GOA.Well I´am on the right side with the city and the mountains, but it seems we´re to fast for my camera

Yep, sounds very familiar. One should really fly there during the daytime.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
A finger to disembark, no bag to collect and quickly out in the public for the italian style airport express called Volabus. 6.00 Euro´s one way, now that should be a really fast example.

Well, at least you could still catch the bus. Thanks to Blu-Express' antics there were no buses anymore when I got there and I had to take a very expensive taxi.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The entrance to the first ever banking company worldwide, established back in 1407

Probably in debt and causing financial crisis ever since, in true PIGS-style.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
I´ve never been to Kabul, but it looks like not that far away

I think I shot a photo of the very same graffiti!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Anyone here with 700.00 Euro´s to much in the pocket

That's actually not too expensive.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
No lounge for me here. There is a small landside place for Mille Miglia members only. Strange again within the Skyteam Alliance.

Hah, I tried to get access to the very same lounge, unsuccessfully of course.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Oldfashioned seaters, but leather is anyway better than metal

Hey, at least it wasn't packed to the brim by millions of Russians like in my case. But the Tu-204 I saw was a small condolence though.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
There is a nasty chemical smell clearly to notice short after departure, but it disappears a minute or so later.

Sounds like my Air Åland/NextJet Saab back in November.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Really oldfashioned
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
There is simply no way for the gates intra security. Strange with this as the main biz airport for Milano close to the city center.

Not so strange. As you said yourself, it is the main business airport for Milan, meaning mainly an O/D airport, thus there isn't too much connecting traffic there.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 7):
I'm very surprised at the bad legroom in the exit row on the 319s; you can see on your return that the seat block the exit and that would not be allowed on a US (N) registrered aircraft, I think. Legroom on US carriers' 319s in the exit rwo is very good, probably almost twice the legroom shown in your picture.

Really? All the A319/320s I've flown have always had rather small legroom on the exit row, at best maybe two inches more than regular seating. Not really worth it, apart from easyJet and Wizz where the regular pitch can be considered the next waterboarding. Definitely nowhere near the generous legroom on the 737s. A321s are of course a different breed.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 12):
Oh dear, airline city buses can be quite a pain sometimes. I do not know how many people arriving at HEL I have directed from the Finnair city bus to a cheaper city bus. Both buses run to the same place in the end - the AY bus only stops at some hotels on the way. Those AY bus tickets are priced at 6-7 EUR while I can buy them a ticket in the other bus for some 3 EUR...

Well, the AY bus is much faster as well, especially ever since they decided to route some of the 615 departures through Kartanonkoski and the surrounding residential areas. On many occasions it is worth paying a couple of Euros extra for speed (like when you are trying to get to your office after an early morning flight from somewhere, been there done that). Plus you can pay with a credit card which is a huge plus.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 14):
Yes and they look even better than the ones in the Nordics imho.

Never!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 14):
Please Skyteam, get your act together concerning this one. No OLCI possibilities today is ‘not done’ for a proper airline, let alone alliance

Norwegian anyone?

Quoting sultanils (Reply 14):
What’s that LH flight to Monaco??

Your Italian is a bit rusty, isn't it? Think Bavaria, not Cote D'Azur.
 
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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:40 pm

Hey, P.,

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):

Good to see another episode of your adventures in backlog land. Looks very familiar to me having visited Genoa back in July, although my experience with Blu-Express was quite a horrible one. Looks like you took pretty much the same walk as I did during the morning before my flight - Genoa certainly is a nice and beautiful city! Sure there are tons of riff raff around, but you can mostly ignore them. And if you can't a few choice Finnish swearwords always do the trick.

Good to see you´re reply. Thank you.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):

A bit disappointment at the lack of variety in the airlines, maybe some Alitalia Express E170s would've been a nice interlude, or how about an open jaw and Blu-Express to fill the gap (no, don't do it it is a horrible airline!

Good idea, but not this time.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):

Don't forget the North - plenty of T-tails flying around!

Sure I will do more also this way.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):

Lame.

Definitely.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):

Hey, AY and BT logos there as well. Nice.

Exactly my opinion. Plenty of interesting stuff around.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):

Hmm, looks much better than the nasty wildcard lounge opposite where I had to spend quite a few hours last year, coincidentally also going and coming from GOA...

You never know at FCO.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):

My my, what a well endowed... coat!

Hah, good point.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):

Ahh, these FCO gates are just so ugly. Like the whole place actually.

Sure, also my opinion.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):

Markus, Markus. You certainly know how to mislead people - you mentioned two upgrades on your trip but those aren't upgrades. Sure you got some preferred seating thanks to status, but an upgrade it isn't.

But it feels like this!.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):

Yep, sounds very familiar. One should really fly there during the daytime.

Count me in for this approach.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):

Well, at least you could still catch the bus. Thanks to Blu-Express' antics there were no buses anymore when I got there and I had to take a very expensive taxi.

Sure I remember that story.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):

Probably in debt and causing financial crisis ever since, in true PIGS-style.

That´s it.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):

I think I shot a photo of the very same graffiti!

Really special.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):

That's actually not too expensive.

Not for this kind of flying.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):

Hah, I tried to get access to the very same lounge, unsuccessfully of course.

Good point again.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):

Hey, at least it wasn't packed to the brim by millions of Russians like in my case. But the Tu-204 I saw was a small condolence though.

Cruisers, so it seems.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):

Sounds like my Air Åland/NextJet Saab back in November.

Something like this.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):

Not so strange. As you said yourself, it is the main business airport for Milan, meaning mainly an O/D airport, thus there isn't too much connecting traffic there.

Yeah, that might be true.

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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Tue Jan 10, 2012 1:15 am

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 27):
Really? All the A319/320s I've flown have always had rather small legroom on the exit row, at best maybe two inches more than regular seating. Not really worth it, apart from easyJet and Wizz where the regular pitch can be considered the next waterboarding. Definitely nowhere near the generous legroom on the 737s. A321s are of course a different breed.

Hi P1

Yes, legroom is much better than in regular seats. On the 319 the window seats in the row in front of the exit is taken out so there are only the aisle and center seat there which gives you almost two meters from the window exit seat to the next seat in front of you.

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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:13 pm

Hello FLIEGER67

Nice report, always nice to catch some MD-80's in 2011.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
"Marella Burani" or "crust", any idea what suits me better?

Everything has been said already....

Surprised that they have no transfer facilities at LIN. With AZ moving most flights to LIN, transfer connections are bound to happen, even if LIN is not promoted as a transfer hub. Have never been to LIN, always wondered how it looks like - so thanks for your report and pictures!

Best regards,
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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:25 pm

Hey, good to see more comments.

@Lars:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 29):

Yes, legroom is much better than in regular seats. On the 319 the window seats in the row in front of the exit is taken out so there are only the aisle and center seat there which gives you almost two meters from the window exit seat to the next seat in front of you.

Thank you for the further informations.

@J.:

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 30):

Nice report, always nice to catch some MD-80's in 2011.

Thank you and always my intention, you know.

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 30):

Everything has been said already....

So it seems!.

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 30):

Surprised that they have no transfer facilities at LIN. With AZ moving most flights to LIN, transfer connections are bound to happen, even if LIN is not promoted as a transfer hub. Have never been to LIN, always wondered how it looks like - so thanks for your report and pictures!

Thanx again and this is Italy, you know!.

Greetings,
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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:17 pm

Ciao Markus!

Thanks for another great story! What a good idea to catch some more MD flights before AZ retires them. Maybe some trips up here to us in the North in the future to catch some SK MD´s before they retire them too? 

Genoa looks like a very beautiful city. It looks like a place to visit some day. I´ve have only been to Italy once.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
on the road at 08.00 am

So late?!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
There is simply no other customer beside me here

Strange for such a big airport

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Let´s go for 150 years in Italy now

I thought Italy was older!?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
the nice young male FA

It seems that male F/A´s are quit common in Italy? For sure not the case up here

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
And the actual magazine, looks nice

I agree! I love Italian architecture

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
I always like these title´s on the wing

Me too. Are there any other airline having this?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
My machine parked at the gate

Pity they drop the black nose

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
but there is simply no safety card inside

Maybe a aviation enthusiast was on the previous flight and took it ?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Legroom, it seems my feet are not that long enough here

Nice, I´ve never been seated in the front on a MD. It most be quite quit?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
the driver finished his smoke,

You´re in Italy you know 
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The Banco di San Giorgio

Beautiful!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
established back in 1407

Impressive

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
FCO from gate 4 looks like ok so far

Interesting with "Parigi". I guess some non-Italians find it hard to find there flight to Paris. Just like me when flying from VER to MUC a couple of years ago. No Munich anywere to find, but Monaco!:D

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
When you follow the signs fo the AZ lounge on the ground floor you will find the BA example, but by no means an AZ lounge.

Again you´re in Italy!

Thanks again!

BTW are you in the US now? Just wonder since your nationality have been American here on A-net for a while!?

Greetings
Robert
 
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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:19 pm

What a great report Markus . I always liked AZ and your report makes me want to try them again sometime. I love the MD-80s and interior , truly unique !

Lovely photos of the place also as usual.

MSC not the best BTW the other cruise lines are better ! .

Looking forward to the next report.

Regards

Philip  
 
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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:07 pm

Hola Markus!

Thanks for this report, as usual a great choice and combination of flights and airlines. I have not flown AZ very much but I had the same combination as you last time I did: BCN-FCO-LIN-BCN (A319 + MD80)... I guess they use MDs extensively for domestic flights.

Genoa looks a pretty nice city, I have only been to the port to catch the ferry back to BCN, almost 24 hours trip, but never in the city so your pictures came in really handy.

All the best for this new year. Many happy flights.

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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:46 pm

Hey Markus, Great report!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Let´s go for 150 years in Italy now

What? Are they seriously referring to Alitalia as the world's oldest scheduled airline  
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
And really enough open seaters

Then that raises the question, were they comfy seaters?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Wait, let me check the screen for my flight.

Must say, that's a really nice touch to show the regs. Surely it's all there for the spotters, doubt any Biz traveler would care about the reg.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The safety card

Hmm, don't recall there being such aircraft as the A319 Enhanced. Only the A330/340 have the E designation.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Well designed furniture

Looks stylish. Were you stylish enough that day to blend in?  
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Cabin crew is one elder nice male, one ok elder female together with one also elder really nice female.

Too bad about the lack of Biz service. But I hope the crew were at least Biz friendly.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Anyone here with 700.00 Euro´s to much in the pocket

Quite a substantial amount of money, but rather cheap for a private jet. There are 8 seats in those? So surely a group of a.netters could share a flight for not much more then regular tickets. Would be quite the experience  

Thanks for sharing!
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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Wed Jan 11, 2012 4:54 pm

Hi,

Nice report, and great photos! Always nice to see a little bit of sun in the cold dark winter months. Good that you got the 2 MD's, something on my wish list also.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
There are different seating layouts, according to the nice young male FA and so they show always two rows on the seatmap. But there is only one in the plane here and really bad choice, this is row 10 on this particular machine.

The seating layouts on Alitalia is the only thing that bugs me about them.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
well it seems LIN is not that really prepared for connecting pax.
There is simply no way for the gates intra security.

I found this out myself last May, whilst connecting to/from Madrid. No way of connecting without going out and in, not good if you're on a tight schedule.

Thanks again for sharing!

Regards,
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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:01 pm

Thanks for sharing. Alitalia seems to do no too bad acutally.

Do the actually use the PTV's in the Airbusses? While in the Lounge in Vienna last Sunday there was an AZ magazine and I read that they have 4 channels in a loop, but on your flights it seemed not to work.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
There are three premium biz row´s with two seats only on both sides of the cabin and these seats are open for me with the AF gold status during online seat selection. Sure the place to catch one, 03L for me. Self upgraded to say it this way.

This is acutally not correct   Everyone can access this seats, status or not. One type of the MDs has regular 2-3 seating over all rows and the other type of MDs have a couple of 2x2 seating rows in the front. Alitalia allows seat reservations for domestic service through the GDS. So everyone - status or not - can reserve those seats, and this already at time of booking. Quite cool, huh? Strangely enough for intraeuropean flights any seat reservartion is not possible. All you can do is give a seatwish (i.e. Aisle or Window) which will be confirmed in the GDS, i.e. Amadeus.
 
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RE: More MD´s For Genoa, Please!

Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:24 pm

Hi and good to see more comments.


@Robert:

Quoting Parton87 (Reply 32):

Thanks for another great story! What a good idea to catch some more MD flights before AZ retires them. Maybe some trips up here to us in the North in the future to catch some SK MD´s before they retire them too?

Thank you and sure a good idea to catch alos more northern stuff this year.

Quoting Parton87 (Reply 32):

Genoa looks like a very beautiful city. It looks like a place to visit some day. I´ve have only been to Italy once.

Sure a place to visit.

Quoting Parton87 (Reply 32):

So late?!

Not everytime, you know.

Quoting Parton87 (Reply 32):

Strange for such a big airport

Definitely.

Quoting Parton87 (Reply 32):

I thought Italy was older!?

You never know what happens in Italy.

Quoting Parton87 (Reply 32):

It seems that male F/A´s are quit common in Italy? For sure not the case up here

Not the case here.

Quoting Parton87 (Reply 32):

I agree! I love Italian architecture

Count me in.

Quoting Parton87 (Reply 32):

Me too. Are there any other airline having this?

Not at all from my impression.

Quoting Parton87 (Reply 32):

Pity they drop the black nose

Hah, good point, love that black spot.

Quoting Parton87 (Reply 32):

Maybe a aviation enthusiast was on the previous flight and took it ?

That might be true.

Quoting Parton87 (Reply 32):

Nice, I´ve never been seated in the front on a MD. It most be quite quit?

It was.

Quoting Parton87 (Reply 32):

You´re in Italy you know

Well, that´s the case.

Quoting Parton87 (Reply 32):

Beautiful!

Exactly my opinion.

Quoting Parton87 (Reply 32):

Impressive

Also my impression, you know.

Quoting Parton87 (Reply 32):

Interesting with "Parigi". I guess some non-Italians find it hard to find there flight to Paris. Just like me when flying from VER to MUC a couple of years ago. No Munich anywere to find, but Monaco!:D

Always the Italians!.

Quoting Parton87 (Reply 32):

Again you´re in Italy!

Thanks again!

BTW are you in the US now? Just wonder since your nationality have been American here on A-net for a while!?

Final preparations for the States now, not that long to go there.


@Phil:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 33):
What a great report Markus . I always liked AZ and your report makes me want to try them again sometime. I love the MD-80s and interior , truly unique !

Lovely photos of the place also as usual.

Thank you.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 33):

MSC not the best BTW the other cruise lines are better ! .

Also my opinion, not my real choice.


@Roger:

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 34):

Thanks for this report, as usual a great choice and combination of flights and airlines. I have not flown AZ very much but I had the same combination as you last time I did: BCN-FCO-LIN-BCN (A319 + MD80)... I guess they use MDs extensively for domestic flights.

Thank you.

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 34):

Genoa looks a pretty nice city, I have only been to the port to catch the ferry back to BCN, almost 24 hours trip, but never in the city so your pictures came in really handy.

Genoa is for sure a nice place and good idea to catch a ferry there.

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 34):

All the best for this new year. Many happy flights.

The very same to, Roger.


@Jonas:

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 35):
Hey Markus, Great report!

Thank you.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 35):


What? Are they seriously referring to Alitalia as the world's oldest scheduled airline

Hey, that´s Italy, you never know what they are doing.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 35):

Then that raises the question, were they comfy seaters?

Sure they are.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 35):

Must say, that's a really nice touch to show the regs. Surely it's all there for the spotters, doubt any Biz traveler would care about the reg.

Definitely.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 35):

Hmm, don't recall there being such aircraft as the A319 Enhanced. Only the A330/340 have the E designation.

Interesting point.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 35):

Looks stylish. Were you stylish enough that day to blend in?

Sure I was.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 35):

Too bad about the lack of Biz service. But I hope the crew were at least Biz friendly.

Not that really.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 35):

Quite a substantial amount of money, but rather cheap for a private jet. There are 8 seats in those? So surely a group of a.netters could share a flight for not much more then regular tickets. Would be quite the experience

That would be for sure an experience.


@Daniel:

Quoting DanTaylor2006 (Reply 36):

Nice report, and great photos! Always nice to see a little bit of sun in the cold dark winter months. Good that you got the 2 MD's, something on my wish list also.

Thank you.

Quoting DanTaylor2006 (Reply 36):

The seating layouts on Alitalia is the only thing that bugs me about them.

Yoer never know with this airline, definitely.

Quoting DanTaylor2006 (Reply 36):

I found this out myself last May, whilst connecting to/from Madrid. No way of connecting without going out and in, not good if you're on a tight schedule.

Good to know.


@Reifel:

Quoting reifel (Reply 37):
Thanks for sharing. Alitalia seems to do no too bad acutally.

Thank you.

Quoting reifel (Reply 37):

Do the actually use the PTV's in the Airbusses? While in the Lounge in Vienna last Sunday there was an AZ magazine and I read that they have 4 channels in a loop, but on your flights it seemed not to work.

I´ve done a good number of flights but never saw one working.

Quoting reifel (Reply 37):

This is acutally not correct   Everyone can access this seats, status or not. One type of the MDs has regular 2-3 seating over all rows and the other type of MDs have a couple of 2x2 seating rows in the front. Alitalia allows seat reservations for domestic service through the GDS. So everyone - status or not - can reserve those seats, and this already at time of booking. Quite cool, huh? Strangely enough for intraeuropean flights any seat reservartion is not possible. All you can do is give a seatwish (i.e. Aisle or Window) which will be confirmed in the GDS, i.e. Amadeus.

Hey, interesting to know. It works perfectly here for me.

Greetings,
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