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Lufthansa Business Class Long Haul CCS-FRA (+pics)

Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:20 pm

Lufthansa – The best way to fly!



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Introduction:



The December holidays are always a thrill. There’s always something interesting for me to do, and this year it was no different. Now living in Rome, Italy, I had to find my way back to my hometown in Caracas, Venezuela, to meet the family, parents and friends. I had initially planned on flying down with my original return ticket that had initiated with the obvious CCS-FCO route in Alitalia. The catch though, was a small trick I was ‘forced’ to do. Being an aviation junkie, I mixed this round-trip fare with a nice return flight on Air France’s B777-300ER, which got announced as an upgrade to the CDG-CCS-CDG route back in mid-2011 – all at no additional cost.

I must admit the 77W makes me go crazy. I immediately booked the trip in Business Class and couldn’t wait to hop on that amazing machine that I love so much. I had already flown on Air Canada’s (coach) and Turkish Airlines (Business), and thanks to that, the seven-seven-whiskey is now hovering on top of my favorite aircraft list.

Unfortunately, there’s a word that causes a lot of trouble every time it’s heard: EXAMS! Yes, exams are the disgrace of human race. Professors decided to riot my awesome flying plans and I was forced to postpone my return to CCS to the 23rd or 24th of December. Unfortunately, AF was packed… not a chance for me to get home for Christmas. The only option was Lufthansa, flying down on the 23rd of December at a very high price, Y fare on both legs.

My mind went into standby/self-destruct mode. I was literally pissed. I was quitting an awesome ride in Business Class for a tight 10-hr flight down to Venezuela… I then called in my travel agent and she gladly told me that for an additional $450 I could get the cheapest Business Class fare on the CCS-FRA-FCO legs. I then analyzed…

Already paying an expensive ticket for a ride in hell (coach it is), I decided to use some of my beloved savings and bump my arse up to the ride in heaven – Business Class indeed.

Here’s the trip report (and my first report in over a year-time) of this cool flight on Lufthy’s longest airliner, sitting up front. Hell yes! Let’s see if Lufthansa truly is “The best way to fly.”

The Trip: Bye Bye Caribbean



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Well there I was, in Margarita Island – the so-called Pearl of the Caribbean. After spending some quality time with family, friends and relatives, it was time to get a nice kick back to reality. The day to head back lastly arrived.

I woke up early in the morning. Drove my parents to the Margarita Airport (PMV) and then flew them to the private airport located in Southern Caracas (SVCS). The plane in question is a Twin Commander 695A One-Thousand.


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I took off at 09.30 with a full load of 9 passengers and numerous pieces of luggage.


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The new Garmin GTN650 & GTN750 with the Meggitt Displays

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Climbed up to FL180 and flew all the way to Caracas. Total flight time was 42 minutes. Enjoy the pictures and the Landing video (this is a pretty cool airport, just take a look at it).

Oscar Machado Zuloaga Airport – Caracas (SVCS)

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The Mil-Mi from the Venezuelan Air Force

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TWIN COMMANDER 1000 LANDING IN SVCS VIDEO


Later on, we had to drive back home, pick up my luggage, and then head over to the Simon Bolivar International Airport (CCS). I got there at 14.50, with the flight scheduled to depart at 17.35.

Psyched about my Business Class hop over the pond, I went straight to the dedicated line for the front-section of the plane.


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When I got to the counters, there were signs that depicted First and Business Class, but I was taken-care of by the Coach clerks. Not too sure why, but I had my two boarding passes less than 6 minutes after I had gotten there. Not bad at all!

Traveling from CCS in Business Class it’s usually tougher than from other locations. My experience with Alitalia has always been satisfactory, being quite good during check-in and most of all, during on-board service. Thus far, LH beats AZ in check-in proficiency. I was impressed with the processing speed and the clerk’s rapidness.

With my boarding pass in-hand, I went straight to the security queue and passport control, which at this time of day (when most EU-bound flights depart), it’s usually a quick visit to the underworld. Good to see, however, the ‘electronic passport’ control line was open and I was through in less than 4 minutes. WOW! Everything seems to be running smooth.

Once inside, I went to snap some photos at the Terminal, something that I somehow regret. The airport was refurbished and redesigned some 5 years ago… unfortunately, it seems as if it was done with play dough. Look at how it’s standing right now. Not looking too good. (And if one compares it to Frankfurt’s…)


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Roof details which are not so nice to see

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Air Europa coming in from MAD and LAN prepping up for MIA

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LAN and AA, both going to MIA – all fully-booked

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Busy Apron, with Conviasa’s A342, Air Europa’s A332, and Icelandair (SBA Airlines) B752

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Alitalia’s old B763 to Rome-FCO and SBA Airlines B763 to Madrid

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And there she is! My Ride to FRA

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Still, not looking so nice

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Anyhow, with nothing else to do or see, I went to the American Airlines Admirals Club, at which I was invited as a compliment from LH.

Here’s my Favorite Bankrupt Airline’s Club:

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The best drink in the world

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I was impressed to see it was being refurbished too. It desperately needed a touch, I’m glad they remembered.


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Refurbished Restrooms

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Since I was going to be sitting for the next 11 hours, I decided to go for a quick walk around the terminal and get a bit closer to Gate 26. Soon enough, boarding was called at 16.40, one-hour before scheduled departure.

Some views of the long Airliner

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Nice zoom at Laser’s MD-80 on top of the huge winglet

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And the copycat decided to show up, just DIRTY and behind schedule…

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Flight: Lufthansa 535
From: Caracas – Simon Bolivar International (CCS/SVMI)
To: Frankfurt Main International (FRA/EDDF)
Aircraft: Airbus A340-642 “Saarbrücken” (delivered in 2004)
Registration: D-AIHL
Configuration: F8C60Y238
Total Flight Time: 8h54m
Altitude: 39,000ft
Distance Flown: 8.883 km




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I was the 9th person to board. Thankfully, no National Guards were at the jetbridge to inspect every single passenger that goes into the plane. With Alitalia, Iberia, and Air Europa this is a Standard Operating procedure. If you book a flight with either of these, you’ll get a full pat down by the guards as a Combo. I was surprised not to see them with LH. Maybe they have an agreement?

Boarding queue

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Newspapers and Magazines before entering the aircraft. Apologies for the blur

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Exciting moment walking down the jetbridge!

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Entering the beautiful aircraft

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As I approached the aircraft’s L2 door, the cool moment of ‘turning left’ finally arrived. I went straight to my seat 7A, which is in the second to last row before the L2 door. Right after the door, there are two additional Business Class rows, and then Coach.

Here’s my seat for the next 11 hours.


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Excited, to say the least, I took some photos, unloaded my travel goodies (laptop, iPad, headsets…) and started inspecting the Recaro seat Lufthansa has to offer on this A346.

Already settled, with a Russian passenger sitting next to me, we were given some Orange Juice, out of a choice of Champagne and Water.


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The seat was very comfortable and spacious, albeit getting out to the aisle with a passenger sitting there would be almost impossible. Soon to be seen…

Looking out the window I could see the glass jetbridge with the boarding passengers moving in quickly. In no time, boarding was completed and doors were closed at 17.05. We pushed back 20 minutes ahead of schedule. Maybe Lufthansa is the only punctual thing in Venezuela, huh?

Unplugged

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Finally a view of the massive engines!

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Our neighbors: Three Airbus vs. One Boeing!

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The four RR Trent 556-61 Engines were turned on, though I noticed ONLY because I was looking at them. Otherwise, it would have been impossible to know. They are incredibly silent in the A346!

Before Taxi Checklist Complete

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When I was young, I wanted to do this job… Maybe still today?  

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Nice zoom

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We began rolling down the taxiway to the airport’s main Runway 10.

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Unfortunately, Venezuela’s ATC is something not to be proud of. We stood at the hold-short point of the runway for 20 minutes waiting for 3 aircraft to land. This always happens, they just don’t dare to dispatch aircraft when there’s incoming traffic (even with 15-mile separation!).

One of the three aircraft landing before our departure

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Lastly, it was lift-up time! Here’s the video of the powerful and heavy takeoff. Notice how the engines want to rip off from the wings when the power thrust is set. AMAZING!

LH535 TAKEOFF FROM CCS VIDEO


Takeoff was superb. We climbed our way to 36,000ft and soon later the sunset for a night crossing over the Atlantic. Enjoy the photos.

Check out the nice vortex coming out of the winglet

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Clean configuration for our climb out

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More vortex show!

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Immediately after reaching cruising altitude, we were handed Hot Towels and La Carte for the evening and pre-arrival meals. I was anxious to see the Business Class product from this great carrier.


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The Amenity Kit was already placed in a side compartment from the seat. To my surprise, it was this [very] cool A380 box.


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Even though the A380 box is by far the coolest Amenity Kit in my collection, it lacks many of the things other carriers have to offer. There was only a pair of socks, lip balsam, eye and ear blockers, toothbrush and covers for the airplane’s headsets. The products don’t seem to belong to a particular brand, whereas in Alitalia they still have Bvlgari and Turkish has Do&Co. I was expecting some creams, soaps and other goodies that even American Airlines puts inside their kits.


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At 18.10 (Venezuelan time), service began. Our tables were set and we were given Nuts with a beverage choice. Trying to follow a friend’s advise, I went for the Champagne that was being served on-board with the intention of drinking it for the rest of the evening.


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Maybe German culture? The Champagne was not cold – whatsoever. It was served warm, truly a first for me.


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In the meantime, a better show was happening outside the window:


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With my warm champagne, I browsed the IFE to search for viable options. I immediately noticed its ‘mandatory’ to use Lufthansa’s headsets, as there’s no port for personal ones. Not too happy about it, I had to put my noise-cancelling headsets away to watch a movie and use the old/busted, which are provided by the airline.

Not comfortable with the IFE programming and the headset situation, I decided to bring out assistance: my iPad, who definitely allows me to use my Bose headsets, was fully loaded with nice TV series… so there, “Flying Wild Alaska” a-la warm champagne it is. (I recommend this TV Series for those of you who are Pilots or like flying).

Flying Wild Alaska

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Meanwhile, after heading North for a while, the Captain finally turned right heading toward the Old Continent. To my viewing pleasure, this is how it looked:

Try to beat this!

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The first course arrived. The Hors d’Oeuvre consisted on a Marinated Grilled Chicken Breast with Balsamic Syrup and Grilled Vegetables.


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The bread selection was really good. The Flight Attendant came in with a basket full of at least 6 different kinds of bread, of which I chose these two:


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The presentation of the first dish was OK. All the components of the dish were too cold, so the flavors were not outstanding. It could have been better.

The other choices were:

- Seafood Salad with Grilled Mango.
- Seasonal Greens, Roasted Fennel, Green Asparagus, and Toasted Pine Nuts.

The main course (entrée) then arrived in an aluminum container.


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I was offered a choice of:

- Tenderloin Beef with Port and Stillion Sauce Potatoes and String Beans
- Salmon Steak with Vegetable Crust in Champagne Sauce, Pearl Barley, Grilled Asparagus, and Pumpkin Balls
- Eggplant Raviolini with Tomato Sauce, Basil Compote and Vegetables.

I went for the latter, which consisted on triangular Raviolis with a mix of Asian-styled veggies.


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From an initial point of view, it’s almost impossible to see the ravioli. They were laying down-under.


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The dish was quite good. Not the best I’ve ever had, though.

Finally I decided to go for the Fruit and skip dessert. I was feeling good with what I had and all I needed was a Port Wine to close a rather nice meal.

Surprisingly, the Fruit was [by far] the best component of the entire meal.


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The Port came with a pair of Pralines, which paired incredibly well with it.


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In conclusion, the meal was good, though nothing to remember with excitement. What I disapproved was the whole presentation of the meal. I was expecting to see a more ‘personalized’ form of service, where they would actually serve the dish in front of you depending on what you really wanted. On this matter, Alitalia’s presentation, for me, is way ahead Lufthansa’s. Plates are served on-demand and look far more professional and delicate. The Flight Attendants narrate the available options and construct the dish in front of you. With this, the overall feeling one gets is that of freshness and innovation. The same applies with Turkish Airlines, which beats both altogether. In Lufthansa, plates look pre-built and there’s no freshness feeling involved.

Another detail I found quite unpleasant was that Flight Attendants didn’t care to remember the passenger’s choice of beverage. I was asked three times what I was drinking when a refill was necessary. And the champagne was also warm later on.

At that point, I wasn’t too fond on Lufthansa’s Business Class meal product. It made it look like a fancy Coach type of service. I would definitely get rid of the aluminum containers to begin with, and later on begin paying more attention to small details.

With the stomach full, I had to [literally] jump over the Russian guy to go use the restroom to prep-up for a nice rest. I closed the lids, set up for sleep, and try to charge my batteries for the next day.

The seat was VERY comfortable. I configured it to the flat position and thanks to the really comfortable pillow and cozy blanket; I managed to get a great rest. From the amenity kit, I used the socks with eye and ear blocks. Good night!

Albeit there was some strong turbulence along the flight, I managed to sleep 4 hours. I find it amusing to see how turbulence relaxes me. That’s a bit twisted, some say!

Awakened by the smell of coffee and breakfast I set up my table once again. I was offered a choice of a 39,000ft Omelette with Smoked Bacon and Ratatouille or a ‘Cold’ breakfast of Smoked Salmon, Black Forest Ham, Visking Ham, Cream and Smoked Cheese.

I chose to have the warm dish, which had a small plain omelette and a rather fatty/greasy piece of bacon with a garnish of ratatouille.


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The omelette was good, but I didn’t dare to taste Mr. Cholesterol. If I had had a hangover then it would have been another story!

Do you all back me up on the bacon decision?

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Along with it, came a plate of fruit: Papaya with a Passion Fruit topping. I hate Papaya, so I had to pass.


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I also had some Orange Juice, with the always-necessary cup of black coffee.


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One-hour and thirty minutes to go…


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1007 KM/H! – we got to fly at 1018 KM/H at one point! Just 218 KM/H below the speed of sound!

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Breakfast, yet again, didn’t fulfill my expectations. I bet in Coach people got served the same omelette but in a different presentation.

Right after the service, we were handed a Business Class Survey, which I gladly completed. I am truly amazed by the ‘perfection’ of Lufthansa’s service. They have been trained so much that there’s no personalization in what they do, and that could hurt their performance a bit. Their punctuality is beyond belief. Of all the flights I have taken with them, there has never been a +10 minute delay in departing the gate. That’s why I love LH.

Survey

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Meanwhile, outside it was still pitch dark, with a little less than 45 minutes to go.


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A few minutes later, the Captain came on the PA announcing our descent into Frankfurt. He also mentioned the weather being ‘nasty’ down at the airport and apologized for the continuous turbulence during the pond crossing.

In no-time, we got inside some really denser IFR conditions. The clouds were so dense I couldn’t see the winglet of the massive wing.


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Finally, with some lights coming out from below, we cleared the clouds and approached Frankfurt.


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Landing was a smooth one, kudos for the pilots. Enjoy the video.

LH535 LANDING IN FRA


Sad to see the flight end, the A346 taxied to a remote stand, which I now realize is a common from almost all European carriers flying to CCS. Alitalia, Air France and Lufthansa all park their CCS-bound flights at remote stands, something that could get a bit annoying if there’s rain or snow, or even if you’re flying in Business and want to exit the airport rapidly.

On my way out of the plane, I took some photos at the First Class, which wasn’t offered on this flight when I booked it.


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On my way to the bus, I managed to take some photos at the beautiful A340-600.


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Saarbrücken

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Bye Bye, Thank you!!!

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Racing an A321 in the Bus

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Once out of the bus, it took over 5 minutes for me to go through Passport Control and then on to the A terminal at FRA. The walk was nice and entertaining as this is truly a magnificent airport.

Conclusions:


Flying with Lufthansa is great. Their flights are on time and their airports work close to perfection. They have great views of the aircraft and their fast taxiways are a few feet off the windows. I just enjoy so much traveling through FRA, DUS and MUC that it might become one of my first options. If I weren’t married to the OneWorld and SkyTeam FFPs I would definitely consider it!

From the Business Class point of view, I would definitely consider flying them again. However, for a similar price I might just go with Alitalia, which in May will start taking their new metal (A330) down to CCS. With their fully-flat beds in Business, and their service which I honestly find much better than Lufthansa, it may very well be my option for the next time. However, if they were to keep the old/busted B763s, then Lufthansa is the winner.

I still have to try the Air France product, however. Unfortunately, I won’t be able to fly their B77Ws any more. I might have a chance to fly their B772s, or more likely, the A343s from CCS, which will return in the schedules from March 2012. I hope their products don’t change much so that I can have a better perspective in the TATL market from CCS.

My personal opinion is, with such a large Business Class (60 seats), service can’t be perfect. There are just too many passengers for a service to get close to being personalized. In Alitalia, Turkish and American, there are usually from 28 to 36 passengers in the Business Cabin, and I truly find the service better and less hassled. Maybe you seasoned travelers can correct me if I’m wrong? These are just my two cents from the few premium experiences I’ve had. I would have felt not so good if I had spent my miles on a LH upgrade... I'd love to spend them on an airline that takes away my breath in Business Class.

With regards to the plane, I definitely like the B77W better. The windows are much larger, the cabin seems more comfortable, and the engines do sound much better!! Just my opinion here too  

I hope you all enjoyed my trip report. I wrote it on the FRA-FCO leg, just so I had all the input fresh for it.

I’ll be glad to answer your questions to the best of my ability.

Comments are much appreciated.


Thanks to you all!

- Enrique (797).

P.S. Posting reports in A.net has truly become a challenge!!! No photo compatibility and the HTML kills ya!
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bakersdozen
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RE: Lufthansa Business Class Long Haul CCS-FRA (+pics)

Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:43 pm

Can you repost w/ photos fixed? I look forward to reading it then.
 
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RE: Lufthansa Business Class Long Haul CCS-FRA (+pics)

Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:49 pm

Great trip report, you gave us just enough information. Very easy to read without including random conversations and pictures of every corner of the aircraft.  
Quoting 797 (Thread starter):
And the copycat decided to show up, just DIRTY and behind schedule…

LOL! This is probably one of the best comments on this website!
 
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RE: Lufthansa Business Class Long Haul CCS-FRA (+pics)

Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:56 pm

Thanks for sharing. I had a similar feeling about my meals in Business Class with LH. I had a flight from BOG, and I can tell you they definitely had no agreement with the local authorities concerning a special gate check exemption  
I find it strange that they use AA's lounge in BOG and CCS, while using AV's lounge would make more sense...

Deboarding/Boarding flights with busses in FRA is unfortunately very frequent and has nothing to do with CCS... You should see the amoun of North American carrier's (Jumbo's, 777's...) waiting on remote positions during mornings...
 
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RE: Lufthansa Business Class Long Haul CCS-FRA (+pics)

Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:23 am

Good to see a report from you, 797! I haven't seen a report from you show up in a while ..  

I'm underwhelmed by the photos of your LH J class service - the food definitely looks like plated Economy Class meals. We had a much better presentation on SAS J back in September from IAD-CPH ...

Thanks for sharing!

Matthew
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RE: Lufthansa Business Class Long Haul CCS-FRA (+pics)

Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:07 am

Great report and especially nice since it was a Lufthansa A340-600!!!

Quoting 797 (Thread starter):
I must admit the 77W makes me go crazy.

I love the 77W myself...........

Quoting 797 (Thread starter):
And there she is! My Ride to FRA

But the A340-600 will always be my favourite aircraft (which I have yet to fly)

Quoting 797 (Thread starter):
Refurbished Restrooms

That restroom looks too cramped!!!

Quoting 797 (Thread starter):
And the copycat decided to show up, just DIRTY and behind schedule…

Absolutely hilarious statement!!

Quoting 797 (Thread starter):
Finally a view of the massive engines!

The best part of this aircraft along with the winglets.

Quoting 797 (Thread starter):
We climbed our way to 36,000ft

Must have been some super slow climb.

Quoting 797 (Thread starter):
Amenity Kit in my collection, it lacks many of the things other carriers have to offer. There was only a pair of socks, lip balsam, eye and ear blockers, toothbrush and covers for the airplane’s headsets.

Very basic for Business Class

Quoting 797 (Thread starter):
Do you all back me up on the bacon decision?

You should have gone for it !!

Quoting 797 (Thread starter):
Saarbrücken

For some reason I have never come across this aircraft before. And she's been around since 2004
 
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RE: Lufthansa Business Class Long Haul CCS-FRA (+pics)

Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:07 am

Hey 797,

thanks for the nice reports! I loved the pics! And the comment about the IB A346 made me laugh for like an hour  

The only thing I did not like much about your report were your references to coach as "hell" and the "coach people" remark was rather un-diplomatic. Just because one pays a higher fare does not allow him*her to refer to other people in contempt. I fly coach, I don´t have the money to pay J, but I do not feel to be a second category person, or as you tell it "coach people".

Otherwise, great report! Thanks for sharing!

Adam
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RE: Lufthansa Business Class Long Haul CCS-FRA (+pics)

Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:03 am

Hey all,

Thanks for your replies!

Quoting bakersdozen (Reply 1):
Can you repost w/ photos fixed? I look forward to reading it then.

I don't understand what you mean. I had to re-post the TR so that the pictures looked fixed in Firefox. I just noticed they don't look the same in Safari.

Quoting ju068 (Reply 2):
Great trip report, you gave us just enough information. Very easy to read without including random conversations and pictures of every corner of the aircraft.

I'm glad you liked it!!!

Quoting reifel (Reply 3):
I find it strange that they use AA's lounge in BOG and CCS, while using AV's lounge would make more sense...

Me too. I feel LH should have their own in CCS. IB and AA are the only ones with own lounges. I had also the possibility of going to the Premiere Lounge, but I had already been there and I don't like it at all, too small and cramped. AA's Admirals is way better.

Quoting reifel (Reply 3):
Deboarding/Boarding flights with busses in FRA is unfortunately very frequent and has nothing to do with CCS... You should see the amoun of North American carrier's (Jumbo's, 777's...) waiting on remote positions during mornings...

Thanks for the info. What I really meant is that CCS gets ramp parking too often  
Quoting 767747 (Reply 4):
I'm underwhelmed by the photos of your LH J class service - the food definitely looks like plated Economy Class meals. We had a much better presentation on SAS J back in September from IAD-CPH ...

I was underwhelmed too. I was truly expecting something nicer than what I had. It was great! but not awesome!

Quoting 767747 (Reply 4):
Good to see a report from you, 797! I haven't seen a report from you show up in a while ..

Thanks! I have been away for a while. Hopefully I'll come back soon with a new one  
Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 5):
Absolutely hilarious statement!!

Haha, I didn't think that remark would make such impact 
Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 5):
The best part of this aircraft along with the winglets.

I'm with you here!!! That's why I like so much more the A340-500, MASSIVE engines and beautiful winglets.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 5):
Must have been some super slow climb.

It was. A340 at its best!!! 
Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 5):
Very basic for Business Class

It was very basic. I'm guessing airlines which have First and Business together can run into this kind of trouble. Airlines who have only a Business Class, though, perform a lot better.

Quoting Checo77 (Reply 6):
thanks for the nice reports! I loved the pics! And the comment about the IB A346 made me laugh for like an hour

Haha thanks!!! I'm glad  
Quoting Checo77 (Reply 6):
The only thing I did not like much about your report were your references to coach as "hell" and the "coach people" remark was rather un-diplomatic. Just because one pays a higher fare does not allow him*her to refer to other people in contempt. I fly coach, I don´t have the money to pay J, but I do not feel to be a second category person, or as you tell it "coach people".

You're absolutely right, Adam. I'm a coach flyer myself. As a matter of fact, the FRA-CCS leg I had to fly it in coach, like I mentioned it in the report. I just see it this way because I've been blesse to fly in Business a few times in my life, and when I do, it just feels too good to be true!

I'm not putting the coach travelers in a second category. I just wanted to portray the difference of flying in J and Y, an maybe I got a screw loose when I was letting myself go through the keyboard  

Thanks for the input!

797
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RE: Lufthansa Business Class Long Haul CCS-FRA (+pics)

Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:21 pm

Very nice trip report--thank you for posting it!

I definitely agree with you about the chunk of fat, er, bacon that was served for your breakfast. I wouldn't have touched it either.

Venezuela is a beautiful country, and it's so sad to see things going downhill by the takeover of that nut Chavez. Maybe someday, it will once again be a free country.
 
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RE: Lufthansa Business Class Long Haul CCS-FRA (+pics)

Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:50 pm

Great trip report. I love the oversized photos!
I flew CCS-PTY-LAX on the tiny 737-700/800 Winglet with Copa Airlines 3 yeas back.
Still remember all my memory from Caracas, crazy and amazing!!

Thanks for sharing!
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RE: Lufthansa Business Class Long Haul CCS-FRA (+pics)

Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:55 pm

Enrique,

What can I say? Great report, as usual. Your reports are usually funny and fun to read and this is no exception (aside from your nasty "dont mingle with the peasants" comment, hehe).

I have flown lufthansa long haul in J (FRA-EZE on a 744) and have to say that I truly liked their service. Yes, they were not all smiley, but they were very polite, and efficient...

AA´s admirals club in CCS is appaling, very crowded usually, and with very poor selection of drinks and food.

It would have been nice to do a trip report on your "cattle class" experience to see the difference on the same route!
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Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:48 pm

11849 views in less than 24 hours..    Very nice   
This has got to be the highest number of views in one day!!!!
 
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Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:17 pm

Hi Enrique,

what a great report, combined with many high quality pictures.
I think the lounge in CCS could be improved, are all airlines using this one?
The flight seemed to be perfect: Good service, you were looking Flying Wild Alaska, one of my favorite shows, and then you flew on SAARBRÜCKEN, which is my hometown.

Thanks a lot for sharing

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Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:10 pm

Awesome trip report....what can be better than a transatlantic flight on the A340-600 and Flying Wild Alaska...?! 
 
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Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:37 pm

Nice report, thanks for sharing!

Quoting 797 (Thread starter):
The Amenity Kit was already placed in a side compartment from the seat. To my surprise, it was this [very] cool A380 box.

Seems to be all the rage now giving out these tin boxes on LH family airlines

Quoting reifel (Reply 3):

I find it strange that they use AA's lounge in BOG and CCS, while using AV's lounge would make more sense...

I used the AV lounge in BOG, and it wasn't pretty. Someone I was travelling with also looked at the AA lounge and he said it was much nicer and less busy, which is probably why LH chose it.
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Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:12 pm

Cool trip report. The videos are a nice touch!

Do a lot of private planes land at Caracas? Only from the video can you really tell how it was built on a hill top!
 
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Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:22 am

Awesome report, and Very unique! I love the shiny props on the commander! Great shots!!!

I started to laugh when I saw the photo of the roof detail..... it seems to be an "access hatch" usually used for the maintenance of hidden mechanical/electrical/plumbing fixtures... They are usually made out of stainless steel... Also, the concrete finish on the columns and beams is of poor quality. Usually exposed concrete is rubbed, patched and skimmed to a nice finish.

Lufthansa seems to offer a nice product! seats look very comfy, and as you mention punctuality is a big plus!

Thanks for sharing!!!
 
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Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:47 am

Enrique...Awesome report. As usual LH never disappoint with what they offer around. Indeed it is kinda beyond being a 5 star airline, but if you compare them with their immediate competitors (AZ, IB, BA and AF) they kick their a... Thumbs up for my company and thumbs up for your great report.

Quoting 797 (Thread starter):
And the copycat decided to show up, just DIRTY and behind schedule…

LOL a little bit of respect on your comments! Indeed as much as I can be patriotic IB is in an urge of changing their scheme.

Quoting 797 (Thread starter):
When I got to the counters, there were signs that depicted First and Business Class, but I was taken-care of by the Coach clerks. Not too sure why, but I had my two boarding passes less than 6 minutes after I had gotten there. Not bad at all!

Traveling from CCS in Business Class it’s usually tougher than from other locations. My experience with Alitalia has always been satisfactory, being quite good during check-in and most of all, during on-board service. Thus far, LH beats AZ in check-in proficiency. I was impressed with the processing speed and the clerk’s rapidness.

With my boarding pass in-hand, I went straight to the security queue and passport control, which at this time of day (when most EU-bound flights depart), it’s usually a quick visit to the underworld. Good to see, however, the ‘electronic passport’ control line was open and I was through in less than 4 minutes. WOW! Everything seems to be running smooth.

Once inside, I went to snap some photos at the Terminal, something that I somehow regret. The airport was refurbished and redesigned some 5 years ago… unfortunately, it seems as if it was done with play dough. Look at how it’s standing right now. Not looking too good. (And if one compares it to Frankfurt’s…)

It is sad to see that my hometown terminal goes back to the past. There are no enhancements or changes whatsoever. I must admit that the Maiquetia 2000 project stayed in 2000 and sadly there has not been any improvement plans in sight. Venezuela is in desperate need of renewing their terminals in its principal cities. We are keeping that 80's look and structures that are not efficient in the XXI century.

Quoting 797 (Thread starter):
As I approached the aircraft’s L2 door, the cool moment of ‘turning left’ finally arrived. I went straight to my seat 7A, which is in the second to last row before the L2 door. Right after the door, there are two additional Business Class rows, and then Coach.

Here’s my seat for the next 11 hours.
Quoting reifel (Reply 3):
Deboarding/Boarding flights with busses in FRA is unfortunately very frequent and has nothing to do with CCS... You should see the amoun of North American carrier's (Jumbo's, 777's...) waiting on remote positions during mornings...

In fact my PHL-FRA flight on US was disembarked on a remote stand too with -15 degrees C...not a very warm welcome at all. This is a very common practice in European airports.

Quoting aces727 (Reply 16):
I started to laugh when I saw the photo of the roof detail..... it seems to be an "access hatch" usually used for the maintenance of hidden mechanical/electrical/plumbing fixtures... They are usually made out of stainless steel... Also, the concrete finish on the columns and beams is of poor quality. Usually exposed concrete is rubbed, patched and skimmed to a nice finish.

...and the Wi-FI router just aside...priceless.

Good job bro and keep posting. See ya in Rome!

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Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:17 am

It must be just me that cant see any pics except for a cluster of 4 stock Luftty a-340 pics?
From all of the reviews, the pics sound great!
BTW this is the only trip report that i cant see the pictures in, any advice?
Thanks!
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Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:34 am

great report 797!!! that one we have to celebrate with a buchannans on the rocks!  
Quoting airnorth (Reply 18):
It must be just me that cant see any pics except for a cluster of 4 stock Luftty a-340 pics?
From all of the reviews, the pics sound great!
BTW this is the only trip report that i cant see the pictures in, any advice?
Thanks!
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Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:28 am

Hey guys, thanks so much for your comments,

Quoting UnitedDC10Fan (Reply 8):
I definitely agree with you about the chunk of fat, er, bacon that was served for your breakfast. I wouldn't have touched it either.

It was disgusting, especially at 1am Venezuelan time. And the smell was quite strong too!

Quoting UnitedDC10Fan (Reply 8):
Venezuela is a beautiful country, and it's so sad to see things going downhill by the takeover of that nut Chavez. Maybe someday, it will once again be a free country.

Tell me about it. With such a great potential it's heartbraking to see things go downhill at such speed.

Quoting nethkt (Reply 9):
Great trip report. I love the oversized photos!

Great! So you get to see the oversized photos?! Some browsers do show them and others don't!

Quoting ogre727 (Reply 10):
What can I say? Great report, as usual. Your reports are usually funny and fun to read and this is no exception (aside from your nasty "dont mingle with the peasants" comment, hehe).

Thanks dude!!! Sorry about the nasty comments haha. Just trying to copy you.

Quoting ogre727 (Reply 10):
It would have been nice to do a trip report on your "cattle class" experience to see the difference on the same route!

I thought about it, but I rarely find motivation to write cattle class reports. It has to be a very special flight/plane.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 11):
11849 views in less than 24 hours.. Very nice
This has got to be the highest number of views in one day!!!!

No kidding! Too bad the number of replies isn't too big  
Quoting Luxair747SP (Reply 12):
I think the lounge in CCS could be improved, are all airlines using this one?

This is American Airlines' Admirals Club. It's always jam packed because AA has 4 daily flights to MIA and 3 weekly flights to JFK and DFW. I didn't know LH also shared this lounge.

Quoting Luxair747SP (Reply 12):
The flight seemed to be perfect: Good service, you were looking Flying Wild Alaska, one of my favorite shows, and then you flew on SAARBRÜCKEN, which is my hometown.

Flying Wild Alaska is AMAZING! I'm glad they carried on with the second season!!! And regarding the plane, I loved it too. The name was quite cool IMHO.

Quoting kazim786 (Reply 13):
Awesome trip report....what can be better than a transatlantic flight on the A340-600 and Flying Wild Alaska...?!

Hard to beat!

Quoting burj (Reply 15):
Do a lot of private planes land at Caracas? Only from the video can you really tell how it was built on a hill top!

This is a Private Airport south of Caracas. Only private and Military planes land here.

We call it the Aircraft Carrier. Most of the times, there is a layer of clouds below the mountains, so it looks like one. It's a dangerous airport, but fun to land on. It's pretty challenging!

Quoting aces727 (Reply 16):
I started to laugh when I saw the photo of the roof detail..... it seems to be an "access hatch" usually used for the maintenance of hidden mechanical/electrical/plumbing fixtures... They are usually made out of stainless steel... Also, the concrete finish on the columns and beams is of poor quality. Usually exposed concrete is rubbed, patched and skimmed to a nice finish.

Haha dude, it's quite embarrasing. And the holes in the concrete, well, that's the very original structure of the airport which dates back several decades. That hasn't changed. The airport, overall, is very cheap and poorly done. I'm sad to see it this way.

Quoting cybergus (Reply 17):
Enrique...Awesome report. As usual LH never disappoint with what they offer around. Indeed it is kinda beyond being a 5 star airline, but if you compare them with their immediate competitors (AZ, IB, BA and AF) they kick their a... Thumbs up for my company and thumbs up for your great report.

I second you on that. LH is an awesome carrier. Like I said, I still have to try the AF Business product. They say it's among the best...

Quoting cybergus (Reply 17):
It is sad to see that my hometown terminal goes back to the past. There are no enhancements or changes whatsoever. I must admit that the Maiquetia 2000 project stayed in 2000 and sadly there has not been any improvement plans in sight. Venezuela is in desperate need of renewing their terminals in its principal cities. We are keeping that 80's look and structures that are not efficient in the XXI century.

Tell me about it. That project was NEVER finished. The airport now is looking old, and obsolete. The materials used in the Maiquetia 2000 project were of bad quality and in a few years time, the airport will look like a lousy bus terminal.

Quoting airnorth (Reply 18):
It must be just me that cant see any pics except for a cluster of 4 stock Luftty a-340 pics?

I'm sorry to heat that! Have you tried using Firefox or Safari? I've tried it from different spots and they all work for me.

Quoting Avianca (Reply 19):
I have the same problem... no idea why?

Buchanitas!!! Dude you can't see the photos?

Thanks all, much appreciated by your nice comments.

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Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:31 pm

Great trip report! Interesting to see so many pics from CCS and get an idea of what the place looks like. I would love to visit some day!

That LH 346 looks really sexy I must admit.. however, their interior there is not my favourite. The new business class interior looks very good though!
 
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Quoting 797 (Reply 20):
Tell me about it. That project was NEVER finished. The airport now is looking old, and obsolete. The materials used in the Maiquetia 2000 project were of bad quality and in a few years time, the airport will look like a lousy bus terminal.

btw, is the famous hotel already done?

Quoting 797 (Reply 20):
Buchanitas!!! Dude you can't see the photos?

nope, dont know why...? btw, when are you the next time in CARACAS? I will be their in March...
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Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 21):
Great trip report! Interesting to see so many pics from CCS and get an idea of what the place looks like. I would love to visit some day!

Whenever you want to come, please let me know. I can arrange a nice Spotting trip for you. SVZM Spotters is the team that would take care of it  
Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 21):
That LH 346 looks really sexy I must admit.. however, their interior there is not my favourite. The new business class interior looks very good though!

Agreed. These A346 are due for an interior renewal. Even in Economy, the IFE is old and outdated.

Quoting Avianca (Reply 22):
btw, is the famous hotel already done?

Not yet! It stopped for several months and it started not too long ago.

Quoting Avianca (Reply 22):
nope, dont know why...? btw, when are you the next time in CARACAS? I will be their in March...

Try not using Internet Explorer! Go for Firefox, Google Chrome or Safari. That's the problem!

I'm not sure when I'm going back. I'll let you know  

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Quoting 797 (Reply 23):
Whenever you want to come, please let me know. I can arrange a nice Spotting trip for you. SVZM Spotters is the team that would take care of it

That is very kind of you   I'll have to save up a bit first.
 
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:45 pm

Hey Enrique, nice report!

Quoting 797 (Thread starter):
Unfortunately, there’s a word that causes a lot of trouble every time it’s heard: EXAMS! Yes, exams are the disgrace of human race.

I hear you on this one, I hear you! Having an exam after a holiday is not the ideal thing, as one tend to be very unfocused on studies both during and after the trip. Besides, who wants to spend their holiday studying. Oh well...

Quoting 797 (Thread starter):
Already paying an expensive ticket for a ride in hell (coach it is), I decided to use some of my beloved savings and bump my arse up to the ride in heaven – Business Class indeed.

That's true. I would've done the same thing as those extra $$$ for J at least gave some more bang for the buck then an overpriced Y ticket.

Quoting 797 (Thread starter):
but I was taken-care of by the Coach clerks. Not too sure why, but I had my two boarding passes less than 6 minutes after I had gotten there. Not bad at all!

Quite bad, but then again they do whatever works faster. Sometimes Y pax get taken care of the C counter. But at least the formalities were done quickly, which is the main concern anyway  
Quoting 797 (Thread starter):
The seat was very comfortable and spacious, albeit getting out to the aisle with a passenger sitting there would be almost impossible. Soon to be seen…

The seats look nice. Suppose they were comfier in the lounge position then LX's seats. Then again, isn't it possible to just climb over the sleeping pax to get out?

Quoting 797 (Thread starter):
Breakfast, yet again, didn’t fulfill my expectations. I bet in Coach people got served the same omelette but in a different presentation.

True, looks quite unsubstantial compared to what LX serve. They have both a hot option, cold platter, youghurt and fruit. Then again airline breakfasts aren't much to brag about.

Thanks for sharing
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Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:18 pm

Enrique!

Great trip report per usual!

I agree that the catering on Lufthansa has been watered down over the years. Not sure when or where it started, but it is not at the level of some of the other European carriers. For this reason alone, I generally try to avoid them. It seems like they've traded sophistication for efficiency and mechanized touch. Some may disagree, but I thought AF did a much better job. And you're right - that omelet was basically a coach class dish served in fine china.

Quoting 797 (Thread starter):
When I was young, I wanted to do this job… Maybe still today?  

You are preaching to the choir. I would love to be doing this at ORD (actually better at MIA for the weather   )
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Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:19 am

Thanks a lot for writing up on a flight that I do on average twice a month in each direction. I think you have captured the essence of the flight very well ... though we will disagree on a few points  /

Quoting 797 (Thread starter):
Once inside, I went to snap some photos at the Terminal, something that I somehow regret. The airport was refurbished and redesigned some 5 years ago… unfortunately, it seems as if it was done with play dough. Look at how it’s standing right now. Not looking too good. (And if one compares it to Frankfurt’s…)

= Amusing you mention FRA. Along with CDG, I find FRA to be one of the worst terminal designs. It is as if German efficiency took a back seat. Try doing a connection in FRA on S-NS within the 45 minutes allowed on many flights - virtually impossible. And still (though construction going on), many exposed wires, metal hooks, etc.

Quoting 797 (Thread starter):
I was the 9th person to board. Thankfully, no National Guards were at the jetbridge to inspect every single passenger that goes into the plane. With Alitalia, Iberia, and Air Europa this is a Standard Operating procedure. If you book a flight with either of these, you’ll get a full pat down by the guards as a Combo. I was surprised not to see them with LH. Maybe they have an agreement?

= I have seen National Guard on LH flights in the jetway. Not everyone gets a patdown - I have never been.

Quoting 797 (Thread starter):
Maybe German culture? The Champagne was not cold – whatsoever. It was served warm, truly a first for me.

= It is not German culture. It is LH incompetence.

Quoting 797 (Thread starter):

With my warm champagne, I browsed the IFE to search for viable options. I immediately noticed its ‘mandatory’ to use Lufthansa’s headsets, as there’s no port for personal ones. Not too happy about it, I had to put my noise-cancelling headsets away to watch a movie and use the old/busted, which are provided by the airline.

= LH IFE sucks.

Quoting 797 (Thread starter):
I was feeling good with what I had and all I needed was a Port Wine to close a rather nice meal.

= My drink of choice on a flight  .

Quoting 797 (Thread starter):

Another detail I found quite unpleasant was that Flight Attendants didn’t care to remember the passenger’s choice of beverage. I was asked three times what I was drinking when a refill was necessary. And the champagne was also warm later on.

= Interestingly, I have had more positive experience with LH FA's than in the past where I was convinced everyone was ex-Interflug  .

Quoting 797 (Thread starter):

I chose to have the warm dish, which had a small plain omelette and a rather fatty/greasy piece of bacon with a garnish of ratatouille.

= You should consider yourself lucky. LH catering has improved significantly in JCL - not still above average, but it has come a long way in the past 2 years.

Quoting 797 (Thread starter):
The seat was VERY comfortable. I configured it to the flat position and thanks to the really comfortable pillow and cozy blanket; I managed to get a great rest. From the amenity kit, I used the socks with eye and ear blocks. Good night!

= I have to disagree. LH has one of the crappiest JCL products amongst major airlines. Anything that is not full-flat today is a shame. LH can get away with it due to its superior network at FRA. If (say) LX or BA flew to CCS, I'd never step on board LH.

Quoting 797 (Thread starter):
Sad to see the flight end, the A346 taxied to a remote stand, which I now realize is a common from almost all European carriers flying to CCS. Alitalia, Air France and Lufthansa all park their CCS-bound flights at remote stands, something that could get a bit annoying if there’s rain or snow, or even if you’re flying in Business and want to exit the airport rapidly.

= This does not happen only at CCS. Reifel below is correct ... and is one of the reasons, you can never use MCT to plan FRA itineraries.

Quoting reifel (Reply 3):

Deboarding/Boarding flights with busses in FRA is unfortunately very frequent and has nothing to do with CCS... You should see the amoun of North American carrier's (Jumbo's, 777's...) waiting on remote positions during mornings...

Thanks again for the excellent report. Despite my general negativeness of LH, its flight to CCS has improved - especially in catering over the past year. However, the crew seem to be poorer than I have encountered on flights recently to Africa and Asia.

Thanks for sharing,
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Quoting 797 (Reply 20):

Buchanitas!!! Dude you can't see the photos?

just arrived yesterday to Medellin and used now my wifes notebook with Firefox... great photos !!! thanks
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Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:53 am

Hi everyone,

Thanks for the fantastic comments. I am glad you enjoyed the report.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 25):
That's true. I would've done the same thing as those extra $$$ for J at least gave some more bang for the buck then an overpriced Y ticket.

There's nothing I hate more than an overpriced Y ticket, especially if it's hovering near the J ranges... Thankfully the difference was not too big and I could afford the jump.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 25):
The seats look nice. Suppose they were comfier in the lounge position then LX's seats. Then again, isn't it possible to just climb over the sleeping pax to get out?

I found the seats to be very comfortable. I managed to sleep quite well and the space was good enough for me. It was impossible to jump over the passenger sitting next to me, so I had to as him twice to move his legs to let me out.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 25):

True, looks quite unsubstantial compared to what LX serve. They have both a hot option, cold platter, youghurt and fruit. Then again airline breakfasts aren't much to brag about.

LH's breakfast was the worst part of the whole flight. The omelette was really lame, not to mention the greasy bacon. It was quite embarrassing for such an advanced airline.

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 26):
Some may disagree, but I thought AF did a much better job. And you're right - that omelet was basically a coach class dish served in fine china.

I'm dying to test the AF product. My father will test it in a week time (AF 77W) and he'll give me a hint.

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 26):
You are preaching to the choir. I would love to be doing this at ORD (actually better at MIA for the weather )

I have a few ramper friends and they enjoy their job quite a lot! The problem comes when you have to load the bags under rainy conditions... still, I think it's a cool job. I would have my camera with me all the time  
Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 27):
Thanks a lot for writing up on a flight that I do on average twice a month in each direction. I think you have captured the essence of the flight very well ... though we will disagree on a few points /

Hey Alex, I was expecting your comments! I actually thought of you on the flight a lot. I'm glad you liked it.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 27):
= Amusing you mention FRA. Along with CDG, I find FRA to be one of the worst terminal designs. It is as if German efficiency took a back seat. Try doing a connection in FRA on S-NS within the 45 minutes allowed on many flights - virtually impossible. And still (though construction going on), many exposed wires, metal hooks, etc.

I can't disagree with you, although what I meant was a reference to the airport's infrastructure and current terminal condition. I found FRA to be spotless, while CCS is in very bad shape.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 27):
= It is not German culture. It is LH incompetence.

That's sad to hear. Has it happened to you as well?

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 27):
= LH IFE sucks.

It really does. Now, I wonder if the A380 has the same type of IFE in C and J ? I'm guessing not.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 27):
= I have to disagree. LH has one of the crappiest JCL products amongst major airlines. Anything that is not full-flat today is a shame. LH can get away with it due to its superior network at FRA. If (say) LX or BA flew to CCS, I'd never step on board LH.

That's sad to hear. I was very excited prior the flight. Is the service overall better in the A380? Have you tried AZ or AF out of CCS in Business Class?

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 27):
Thanks again for the excellent report. Despite my general negativeness of LH, its flight to CCS has improved - especially in catering over the past year. However, the crew seem to be poorer than I have encountered on flights recently to Africa and Asia.

Thank you for reading! I really appreciate it.

Quoting Avianca (Reply 28):
just arrived yesterday to Medellin and used now my wifes notebook with Firefox... great photos !!! thanks

Hey Buchanitas! Thanks dude, Internet Explorer sucks quite a bit.

Thanks to all  

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Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:41 am

Hi there

Wonderfull report. Seems like you had a good flight.
J-class on the 346 is indeed quite large. If flying J the 332 or 343 seems to give a more private feel. Besides that Lufthansa J looks to be great. I have flewn MUC-MIA-MUC back in december 2010 in Y and was impressed.

Greetings
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PS. If you are interested in my views over LH!
Lufthansa, There Is No Better Way To Fly! (by MSS658 Jul 5 2011 in Trip Reports)
Sun, Snow, Rain And ... Lufthansa! (by MSS658 Sep 4 2011 in Trip Reports)
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Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:09 pm

Hi 797 !
excellent trip report ... for me you're one of the best writers here ... the fact that you are pilot helps  ... I hope that we will read an Alitalia/332 business class report in 2012 ... best food in the air heheheh ... nice inside story of extremely rare CCS ... next winter I hope I'll see for myself ( what going on with AZ introducing A332 to CCS ) ... stipica  
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RE: Lufthansa Business Class Long Haul CCS-FRA (+pics)

Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:47 am

Very nice TR! It was great to see your photos, and the food looked great!

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