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London For A Half-day (feat. LGW & LHR - Pics!)

Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:42 pm

FR1182: Shannon Airport (SNN) – Gatwick Airport (LGW)
EI387: Heathrow (LHR) – Shannon Airport (SNN)


I decided to go to London for a day (well, a half day because I’m not a morning person and didn’t fancy a 06:30 departure) to do some Christmas shopping. It was early December and I rounded up a female companion to accompany me – once I mentioned shopping she didn’t need too much convincing. This would be my second ever trip to London.

I was up early on the morning of 5th December for the hour-long drive from my West Limerick home to Shannon. I collected my friend on the way and were at the airport just before 09:30. I parked in one of the Long Term carparks and that sets you back €9.50 per 24-hour period. I wanted to get airside as fast as possible and because we were on Ryanair, we had printed our boarding passes beforehand so we headed straight to security.

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Not too sure how much longer Irish public buildings will be allowed to display nativity scenes like this

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As per usual the airport was a ghost town.

Once airside I checked out the new Loop duty-free shop which recently underwent a €1m refurbishment. To be honest, it looked very similar to what it always did to me. I was expecting better things. My mother asked me to get her a few things so I made use of the “Shop and Collect” service whereby I could pick out the things I needed and pay for them now, and collect when I arrived back at Shannon. I found it to be a very handy service – and free too!

This is the site of the world’s first duty-free shop.

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We were boarding from Gate 2 which is one of the non-airbridge gates downstairs so we headed down. Boarding was due to start at 09:50 but we soon found out the inbound aircraft, from London-Stansted, was delayed about 25 minutes. Gate agents came around and tore the little stubs of the boarding passes while we waited. No one left the queue for the gate and everyone stayed standing (or sitting on the floor) until boarding commenced.

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Ironically, you can no longer fly nonstop between Shannon and Paris

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Eventually the aircraft arrived as flight FR103 and I watched as the passengers disembarked. Boarding soon started and I was at my seat at 10:25. The flight was very full at about 90% and a good few passengers had Priority Boarding too. I was a little concerned I wouldn’t get a window seat but I boarded at the aft door and low and behold, I got seat 26A.

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Date Monday, 5th December 2011
Airline Ryanair
Flight FR1182
Aircraft Boeing 737-8AS
Tail No. EI-EFB
Aircraft Name -
Scheduled Departure 10:10 WET
Actual Departure 10:37 WET
Departure Terminal & Gate Gate 2
Departure Taxi Route D1, D2, RWY24
Weather at Departure Scattered showers, broken cloud, winds SW
Scheduled Arrival 11:35 WET
Actual Arrival 11:51 WET
Arrival Terminal & Gate South Terminal, Gate 20
Arrival Taxi Route (N/A)
Weather at Arrival Dry, sunny, winds, W
Class
Seat No. 26A
Captain John Moran
First Officer Ray Richardson
Cabin Manager Michelle
Actual Flight Time 1 hour, 14 minutes

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An Aer Lingus Regional ATR 72 preparing to head to Edinburgh as flight RE3672
Nothing unusual to report on the taxi out or takeoff. We were off the asphalt of Runway 24 at 10:43. As we flew out over the Shannon Estuary and turned left over rural west Limerick and Adare, I made out quite a few familiar landmarks.

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The flight was very uneventful and smooth. A typical Ryanair flight with all the announcements and sales and what not. The weather improved as we headed further east.

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Descent began at 11:19 over the city of Bournemouth and the captain informed us of this a few minutes later. The aircraft came in over the southern coast of England and made a left turn towards 26L. We were down at 11:47 and at Gate 20 of the South Terminal four minutes later.

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FB would turn back around to SNN as FR1183 about 25 minutes later

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Gatwick looked the same to me as it did when I was here last in early 2010, before the major renovations under the new ownership. In saying this, I only passed through a section of the arrivals area. There was clearly still work going on at immigration as it was a mess. One thing I find annoying about LGW immigration is they retain all boarding stubs on flights arriving from Ireland or internally.

We got the Gatwick Express into Victoria Station in central London and firstly walked down by Westminster Abbey and the London Eye.

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We then got the Tube to Oxford Circus where Christmas shopping ensued. Our return flight to Shannon was at 19:25 from Heathrow – I deliberately picked LHR-SNN as I had never before flown from LHR before. We finished shopping at about 17:00 and got the Tube from Bond Street to Heathrow Terminals 1, 2, 3. We had to change lines at Green Park. This was my first time using the Underground and it was very seamless and efficient. The trains were packed though.

It took about an hour to reach LHR and were at Terminal 1 around 18:15. The gates at the LHR Tube station wouldn’t allow me through and I had to pay a few pounds extra at the ticket desk for some reason. Anyway, we printed our boarding passes from the self-service kiosks when we got in.

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Straight through a thorough security check where my iPhone was randomly inspected with a DNA-testing-type swab and we got food at one of the airside cafés. There were quite a few Aer Lingus flights departing as demonstrated by the boards. Aer Lingus is one of the largest foreign carriers at Heathrow with 23 daily slot pairs in the winter season (3 flights to/from Belfast-International, 4 flights to/from Cork, 13 flights to/from Dublin and 3 flights to/from Shannon). My flight this evening was flight EI387 departing at 19:25 from “Gates 77-86”.

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We headed down towards gates 77-86 and first went through a passport check (…why? Common Travel Area?) then we entered a dedicated Aer Lingus reception and lounge entrance on the way. A lot of passengers were sitting in this area waiting for the gate to appear on the screens.

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Impressive

A took a sneak peek at the agent’s monitor behind the desk and discovered our boarding gate was going to be Gate 84. We proceeded on our own down the tube-like corridors.

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Passengers were waiting at Gate 83 for the EI177 service to Dublin and further down, the EI37 to Belfast.

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It seems these gates are dedicated solely to EI operations. It was coming up to 19:00 now and there was no aircraft or passengers at Gate 84 which led me to believe I was looking at the wrong thing on the agent’s screen. Just then, sure enough, an A320 taxiied in and parked as we watched on. It was EI36 coming from BFS. The aircraft would now be changed over to operate the SNN flight. I found this interesting. EI must make many aircraft changes between bases at LHR.

The screen then displayed our flight. We sat right next to the podium and were sure to be among the first to board.

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Boarding was called just before 19:10 and I was the second to board. At 19:15 the SNN-based crew introduced themselves and incorrectly announced the flight as EI386. It didn’t take long for the rest of the passengers to board and the overall load factor stood at about 65-70%.

Date Monday, 5th December 2011
Airline Aer Lingus
Flight EI387
Aircraft Airbus A320-214
Tail No. EI-DVK
Aircraft Name St Brigid/Brighid
Scheduled Departure 19:25 WET
Actual Departure 19:25 WET
Departure Terminal & Gate Terminal 1, Gate 84
Departure Taxi Route (N/A)
Weather at Departure Mostly clear, light winds
Scheduled Arrival 20:55 WET
Actual Arrival 20:54 WET
Arrival Terminal & Gate Gate 6
Arrival Taxi Route RWY24, C, D2
Weather at Arrival Showers, winds SW
Class
Seat No. 19F
Captain Kieran Garrett
First Officer (N/A)
Cabin Manager Amanda Gibbons
Actual Flight Time 1 hour, 24 minutes

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Why was this bird at T1?

We pushed back bang on time at 19:25. One of the other EI aircraft at T1 was the retro-livery, EI-DVM. The other was EI-CVB. We began taxiing at 19:29 and did not takeoff from 27R until 19:44 due to runway congestion.

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Like the inbound flight earlier on, there was nothing exceptionally noteworthy about this flight. We reached cruising altitude at 20:00. It wasn’t long after this (about 20:25) we began descending again. The captain announced that we were flying over Rosslare Harbour and passengers at the right-hand side of the aircraft would be able to see the lights of Dublin in the distance. I could barely make it out though.

Final approach was declared at 20:30 and we hit Runway 24 at 20:46. At the time, Taxiway A near the control tower was closed for upgrade works so we did a U-turn and exited via Taxiway C instead. We docked at Gate 6 at 20:54, a minute early.

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It takes quite a few minutes now to reach immigration if the aircraft parks at the pier due to the new arrivals layout. You have to go upstairs one level and down two levels again. It makes SNN seem a lot bigger!

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We simply had to wave our closed passports at the GNIB officer and passed through the baggage hall and customs.

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I collected my airport shopping purchases from earlier that day in the designated Shop and Collect office and paid for parking. After dropping my companion for the day at her friend’s house at Limerick Institute of Technology, I was back in my student residence in Limerick city just after 21:30 and that completes my 11 hours or so of travelling.

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Thanks very much for reading.

Previous reports:
46. Aer Lingus EI125 SNN-ORD (Direct - Few Pics) (by AmricanShamrok May 9 2008 in Trip Reports)
47. Aer Lingus EI124 ORD-SNN (pics) (by AmricanShamrok May 30 2008 in Trip Reports)
48. & 49. Aer Lingus First: Avod To Chicago (ORD) [pics] (by AmricanShamrok Aug 25 2008 in Trip Reports)
50. & 51. Aer Lingus EI124 ORD-DUB-SNN [with Pics] (by AmricanShamrok Nov 21 2008 in Trip Reports)
52. & 53. A Continental Experience: Transatlantic & Beyond - Pics (by AmricanShamrok Aug 13 2009 in Trip Reports)
54. & 55. AF (& WX) ‹‹Voyageur›› ORD-CDG-SNN (lots Of Pics) (by AmricanShamrok Sep 11 2009 in Trip Reports)
56. & 57. Aer Lingus Domestic (SNN-DUB-SNN) On The A330+pics (by AmricanShamrok Feb 13 2010 in Trip Reports)
58. & 59. London Baby! (SNN-LGW-SNN) With Ryanair+pics (by AmricanShamrok Mar 6 2010 in Trip Reports)
60. & 61. US Customs In Shannon, Ireland + CO To ORD (pics!) (by AmricanShamrok Aug 19 2010 in Trip Reports)
62. & 63. Delay With Continental: ORD-EWR-SNN (With Pics!) (by AmricanShamrok Aug 29 2010 in Trip Reports)
64. & 65. DUB Terminal 2 Trial + KIR-DUB Return On FR (pics) (by AmricanShamrok Oct 15 2010 in Trip Reports)
66., 67., 68. & 69. ¡Hola Barcelona! Flying Irish With FR, EI, RE-pics (by AmricanShamrok Jun 21 2011 in Trip Reports)
70., 71., 72. & 73. From Shannon To Berlin...and Back To Kerry! (pics) (by AmricanShamrok Jan 29 2012 in Trip Reports)
74. & 75. London For A Half-day (feat. LGW & LHR – pics!)
 
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RE: London For A Half-day (feat. LGW & LHR - Pics!)

Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:37 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Thread starter):
Once airside I checked out the new Loop duty-free shop which recently underwent a €1m refurbishment. To be honest, it looked very similar to what it always did to me. I was expecting better things.

Did you notice the out of place "Pine Kitchen table" in the middle of all that white new look shop! Gotta love SNN
 
 
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RE: London For A Half-day (feat. LGW & LHR - Pics!)

Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:57 pm

Hey AmricanShamrok! Thanks for sharing your TR, enjoyed your pics of LGW and LHR. Hope you had a good day in London!

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Thread starter):
Gatwick looked the same to me as it did when I was here last in early 2010, before the major renovations under the new ownership. In saying this, I only passed through a section of the arrivals area. There was clearly still work going on at immigration as it was a mess.

The South has had some work done like the security bit etc but still needs to be finished. The North Terminal however has gone under major improvments and looks so much better! Next time you are here at LGW you should have a look at the North (that is if they haven't still not finished the South Terminal by then ).

Anyway cheers!

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RE: London For A Half-day (feat. LGW & LHR - Pics!)

Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:19 pm

Quoting clydenairways (Reply 1):
Did you notice the out of place "Pine Kitchen table" in the middle of all that white new look shop! Gotta love SNN

Didn't even notice! But yes it does look tacky now upon further inspection!

Quoting LGWflyer (Reply 2):
The South has had some work done like the security bit etc but still needs to be finished. The North Terminal however has gone under major improvments and looks so much better! Next time you are here at LGW you should have a look at the North (that is if they haven't still not finished the South Terminal by then&nbsp Wink.

Thanks LGWflyer. I've never been to the North Terminal I must say but no doubt I will someday! Gatwick should be an inspiration to this country as the fate of Shannon's and Cork's futures are currently being hammered out (to make them independent or leave them as part of the Dublin Airport Authority). The improvements that have been made at LGW, both in terms of passenger numbers and structurally since independence from the BAA will hopefully be taken into account here.
 
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RE: London For A Half-day (feat. LGW & LHR - Pics!)

Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:14 am

Hi AmericanShamrock,

thanks for the detailed report!

It seems like a couple of your photos didn't load, though they didn't detract from the quality of the report  

And you and your friend certainly seemed to have a nice day, and pack some tourist sights into it for good measure!

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Thread starter):
I had to pay a few pounds extra at the ticket desk for some reason

You might have accidently bought a Zone 1 ticket by mistake, LHR is out in Zone 4 so a slightly more expensive ticket is required.

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Thread starter):
first went through a passport check (…why? Common Travel Area?)

The UK has no exit controls, so it was probably an ID check for the airline. I've flown to Dublin with only my driving license before.

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Thread starter):
It seems these gates are dedicated solely to EI operations.

It looks like the area where I flew to Dublin a few years ago, on BMI, though the layout may have changed since then!

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Thread starter):
Why was this bird at T1?

Maybe one of the T3 flights ran out of parking space so used a T1 stand and bussed the passengers to it? Just a guess mind!

Thanks again for the report!

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RE: London For A Half-day (feat. LGW & LHR - Pics!)

Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:09 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Thread starter):
This is the site of the world’s first duty-free shop.

It always amuses me that SNN is the home of duty free!

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Thread starter):
This was my first time using the Underground and it was very seamless and efficient. The trains were packed though.

Seamless and efficient are rarely applied to the tube - glad you enjoyed your trip though! If you had to pay more at LHR you probably bought a ticket only for Zone 1, rather than Zone 1-6.

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Thread starter):

We headed down towards gates 77-86 and first went through a passport check (…why? Common Travel Area?)

Random passport check. 99% of the time there is no outbound passport check leaving the UK, irrespective of the destination. Even with the CTA they have the right to check ID.

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Thread starter):
Why was this bird at T1?

It's not, it's at 'T3'. It's part of the BA shorthual operation based at T3, but parked at T1 as that's where ther's space to park
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RE: London For A Half-day (feat. LGW & LHR - Pics!)

Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:13 pm

Hi

Another nice trip report you have got there, well illustrated and great details.

Just a question? how do you get the crew names? Do you ask them personally or just overhear them on the intercom.

Greetings
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RE: London For A Half-day (feat. LGW & LHR - Pics!)

Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:41 pm

Quoting signol (Reply 4):

Hi AmericanShamrock,

thanks for the detailed report!

It seems like a couple of your photos didn't load, though they didn't detract from the quality of the report  

And you and your friend certainly seemed to have a nice day, and pack some tourist sights into it for good measure!

Thank you Signol. I certainly enjoyed my time in London and will definitely be returning again soon  
Quoting signol (Reply 4):
You might have accidently bought a Zone 1 ticket by mistake, LHR is out in Zone 4 so a slightly more expensive ticket is required.

Ahh, OK. I'm completely unfamiliar with the payment system. I bought a day ticket but I didn't realise there were different ones for each Zone.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 5):
It always amuses me that SNN is the home of duty free!

Indeed. Shannon holds a very unique legacy internationally - first duty free, among the first to host many aircraft (747, A380 etc.), first US preclearance outside of N. America, Space Shuttle emergency landing site, etc. etc. I have great pride for this airport!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 5):
Seamless and efficient are rarely applied to the tube - glad you enjoyed your trip though!

Really? I must say I was very impressed with the whole system.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 5):
Random passport check. 99% of the time there is no outbound passport check leaving the UK, irrespective of the destination. Even with the CTA they have the right to check ID.

Thanks for clearing this up.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 6):

Hi

Another nice trip report you have got there, well illustrated and great details.

Just a question? how do you get the crew names? Do you ask them personally or just overhear them on the intercom.

Hi Marc, thanks very much. I usually get them from the in-flight announcements over the intercom. If I don't get them, I usually ask nicely!  

Thanks for the comments.

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