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Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:31 am

Cruise ship spotting at FLL, or not?


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Hey, dear readers,

anyone who has followed my last story

FLL For A Warmer Climate! (by FLIEGER67 Feb 5 2012 in Trip Reports)

know, that I´am in Fort Lauderdale. Mainly for some warm Floridian air, but also together with a number of ships to see at Port Everglades.
There are some flights to go later in the day, three to call it correct.
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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:31 am

That´s the routemap for today/tonight/tomorrow:

http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=FLL-ATL-AMS-STR&MS=wls&MR=540&MX=720x360&PM=*

Thanx to:

http://www.gcmap.com/
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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:35 am

FLL is the new departure airport around this trip and it´s now on the updated map:


Departure Airports II auf einer größeren Karte anzeigen

And here are also the latest flown routes:


Tripreporters Flüge II auf einer größeren Karte anzeigen

Well, it was not that easy to reach my final target.
No working permit, no cruise fixed, no entry to the cruise port?.
But finally the man with the good connections decides, that I´am going on a cruise today. He should know it better than me!.
I´ve ordered the shuttle for 11.30 am, but fixed my preparations early, no problem, there was also a seat available at 10.00 am.
And so me and a bunch of excited cruise ship pax are shuttled to the port, looking forward to see some big ships docked in.
And well, there are really big ships docked, definitely.

Is this huge enough?
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Yeah, it´s the Celebrity Solstice
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It´s a kind of a dejavu for me, saw her during her early days at the Meyer Werft in Emden.
Holland America Line with the Neuw Amsterdam
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That looks like also big
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The Carnival Miracle
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And the Westerdam
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Princess cruises in the distance
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Looks toylike, but really big in real life
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The miracle and another cruiser behind
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The Westerdam en detail
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The Navigator of the Seas
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And a small island behind
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I don´t even know why, but this feels like Donald Duck is on the way with his small boat between the big cruisers
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The mood here feels like it should to be at such a huge port.
Trucks delivering goods, cabs and shuttle busses bringing in excited new cruise pax, the sheriff doing the cool way, parked his car with flashlights on in the middle of the road and spotting the scenery, cars full of whitehaired travellers
stopped at places where the signs show clearly no stopping and the dispatchers yelling around.
Yes, that´s definitely port mood here!.
Royal Carribean behind the Westerdam
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And another one behind, impressive
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The Allure of the Seas
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Nice greenery all around
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The final example
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Ships and planes for me
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Some yacht´s are also parked
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These balcony looks so strange
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The Ruby Princess
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Well, where is the time gone?. Catched a cab at the exit, which delivered a new load of cruise pax, back to the hotel to pick up my bag in the afternoon.
My personal shuttle driver delivered me perfectly as planned to the airport.
Ready for more flying now and of course also my new depature airport.


Sunday, 29.01.2012

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Fort-Lauderdale-Hollywood-International-Airport
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Service KLM KL 9208 operated by Delta Airlines
Scheduled: 19.30 // 21.31


These are legs 3 to 5 from the 5 booked together on one ticket by KLM.
The fare this way 85.00 Euro´s per leg.
OLCI, well OLCI is possible, definitely, but not for me also in this case.
Another example of the non up-to-date OLCI reliability by the Skyteam airlines.
Yes, I like curbside check-in, that´s something for me with these warm, windy and somewhat humid weather conditions
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An elder male agent found my reservation, my previous try at the self service kiosk wasn´t succesfull, but it isn´t possible to change seats for the onward legs, no I´am not amused.
Delta´s part of the terminals with a nice B757 actually on pushback
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How I like these non European standard equipment, the B717 and a B1900
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Winglet´s on these B757
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Around the corner for the JetBlue place
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Well described in Marc´s story:

Jetting The Blue Way To New York! (by MSS658 Feb 4 2012 in Trip Reports)
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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:37 am

Curbside FLL style
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Palms and Spirit on the go
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This looks like the Loco part of the airport
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JetBlue on the run
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Two nice 752´s in one picture
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D9 for me to ATL
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How I like these tails
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The nice 752 en detail
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Condor and Carribean Airlines
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Another Carribean on taxi
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The 752 ready to go
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I´ve spend a good time around these different terminal parts, spotting the nice movements in ok, not sunny but nevertheless, pleasant weather.
Now what´s this?
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Oh my god, that´s the catch of the day
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Bahamasair and the 732, imagine the noise later at departure. I love it
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CO/UA with the 753 also at FLL
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To security now, some 10 pax in front, the female TSA agent painted lots of hieroglyphics on my boarding pass. But no special check here, shoes out and through in a minute.
Ah, there is also an Sky Club at FLL
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No, this is not FRA. It is really FLL, where the DE 763 parked close to the DL lounge
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Nice offers
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Delta style
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The sun ahead with Allegiant
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Well, Delta´s terminal at FLL is not a real architecturally delight.
Just a simple four corner building, everything on one level with oldfashioned seaters and lots of people around.
What I´ve thoroughly dislike is the climatization.
It seems they are prepared for 30 degrees, what is not really the point today.
It was terrible cold in the lounge, the seaters at the window directly under the vents, no chance for me to stay there much longer.
It wasn´t better in the terminal itself, cold, much to cold for my personal liking. Further on for the gate now.
Good to see a winglet equiped Delta 757-200 at my gate.
No change, this is the scheduled plane type
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It is N650DL. Leg no. 14 on type, a new registration for me.
An oldie, to say the least, spend it´s whole time under the Delta and Song brands since 28.06.1989. One of 157, impressive, active 752´s in the fleet.
This plane is noticed in early January with an inflight fight between an drunken male pax and an FA on the run from MSP to LAX. The pax was restrained and taken into custody after arrival in LAX
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There is a superlong standby and waiting list up to 60 pax.
It seems flight number 4 since 4.30 pm to ATL collects all the earlier no go´s.
Boarding starts soon thereafter. I was once again on the upgrade list but also once again not successfull in the end.
Confirmed, the 757-200 on the safety card
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Seat 43A for me now, 41A was selected earlier. Legroom is ok here in the second last row with the dark blue leather seats. The cabin is clean so far
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The middle seat remains open for a good time.
Finally when I hear boarding completed, there is a supernervous elder american guy on finals for the middle seat and no question with these huge number of waiting pax, the plane is full till 100%.
I´am not sure if he´s standard nervous at all or from the waiting procedure for an open seat. Thanx god, he´s strapped, if not he´s jumping on his seat.
23 degrees and cloudy here. 7.30 pm perfectly ontime.
1 hour 30 minutes for "Delta" now heading to ATL.
Another plane is on finals, so we´re performing a superfast rolling takeoff from the 2743 meters runway 09L.
Cabin crew is five female FA´s, 1 young, 1 elder, 3 middle aged. All together nothing special, biz friendly style.
Inseat monitors, well done
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Service is pretzels and free drinks.
Cockpit crew is from the US. The captain with a really nice welcome during taxi.
"Folks, it´s my real pleasure to fly you to Atlanta this evening". I like it this way, well done.
And later on with a nice bye-bye prior to approach.
Surprise, also in german language
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No question that the "My flight" option is my place to stay during the flight. Sorry, no acceptable picture this way.
We´re at maximum 39000 feet above Orlando.
Touchdown at ATL´s 2743 meters runway 27L, 9.10 pm, more than 20 minutes ahead to schedule. Clear sky and 14 degrees, how I miss this!. Daytime maximum is -9 degrees here in Germany today.
A gate position and onward for the terminal now.
The pilot is at the planes door during disembarking. I like it this way, definitely.




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Service KL 622 operated by KLM
Scheduled: 22.50 // 13.15


Amsterdam is easy to locate on the screen.
Close to the top and one flight only from gate E28, looks like ontime
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There is not that much time in between the flights. A short ride on the intra terminal train follows. I decide to skip the lounge this time, nothing new for me, so it seems.
Ah, here it is, my accomodation for the night.
The 777-200 is on schedule and so it looks like also at the gate
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"Old Rauma", named after the finish world heritage site and the world largest wooden city center of Rauma town, should shuttle me across the pond tonight.
PH-BQO is leg no. 3 only for me on the 777-200 and yes, this is a new registration.
In service with KL since 29.01.2007. The latest example from 15 in the fleet
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The 777-200 is another one of these not that well covered plane types around these trip, so I´am looking forward to the experience.
While I was not that really happy with the check-in agents information at FLL, that there is no possibility for a seat change.
I decide to try my luck again. One more reason to be at the gate as soon as the agents arrive.
An elderly lady at work here.
"Sorry is it possible to change my seat for an exit row window?.
43A is selected but I prefer a bit more space".
"Ok I will check it and call you, if it´s possible, in a couple of minutes".
"Thank you".
And not that much minutes later I was called forward and received 31J. The place with the generous legroom. Not a real window, but anyway it´s a nightflight and I try to catch some sleep on the way.
Boarding started soon thereafter.
The safety card also confirms the 777-200
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The Holland Herald, always good for a special cover
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10.50 pm, ontime, 7 hours, 25 minutes to go for "KLM" in direction good old Europe from the 3624 meters runway 27R. Clear sky and 9 degrees here.
Cabin crew is five females, one middle aged, cute, large, black hair, well, good looking and nice, together with four younger FA´s. Also two young male FA´s and the elder purser.
Cockpit crew is from the Netherlands.
The captain with a real nice welcome during boarding and once more later on during decent, nice and detailed with weather informations.
There is an inseat fold screen for me here.
Let me show you the options.
No question, flight tracking for me
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A good variety on offer here
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My entertainment, definitely
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A view from my seat, really spacious
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The load is close to 100% in the end, a middle aged dutch couple in the two seats beside me, sleeping all the way, ok so far.
Am I stupid or what, I simply don´t called for a special meal on this service.
But if you don´t ask, you don´t get the chance to catch one.
The purser was a super nice elder male. I´ve told him my story with the no pre-ordered special meal.
"Give me a minute, I will check, if there is something possible for you".
And no surprise with his personal attention, it was.
A special vegi meal for me now.
Looks good this way
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Sure ok, especially the bread roll and the delicious cake, off course I´ve skipped the topping which was much to sweet for my choice, but the other part was ok
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So that´s the way for me usually to spend a night on a plane.
Eyes closed, sleep as soon as the tray is cleared and have a view to the route tracking every hour or so till something more to eat is coming up.
The breakfast, vegi of course
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Well, not my choice in the morning, but the breadroll suits me perfectly
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The route was Charlotte-Washington-Philadelphia-New York-Boston-Halifax-Dublin-Liverpool-Norwich at maximum 37000 feet.
Daylight with the window blinds open not that far from AMS and the connecting gates on the screen
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Now that´s what I call legroom, really comfy to stay here
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My seat, dark blue thin and hard fabric, looks not that really comfy, but it was sure ok for the night with the generous legroom. The cabin wasn´t that really clean at all
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Touchdown on the 3500 meters runway 06, the Kaagbaan, 12.30 am, 45 minutes ahead to schedule due to strong tailwinds. The sky is overcast and the temperature is -2 degrees, shudder.
But thanx to a very good friend here, Suryo, I´am well prepared for the weather conditions.
The captain was also here on KL at the planes door,
warm welcomed, a really nice gesture.
"Old Rauma" at the gate in AMS
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It seems not that long to go for the next service
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I´am once more not that really pleased with the system at AMS and the passport/security check.
Only a couple of pax ahead, but there is simply no space to wait for security located directly behind immigration. And it´s far from pleasant with a couple of nervous Russians around in a hurry to catch their next flight two hours later or so.
Well, when I write this I´am surprised why they try do enter the EU with LED as the destination on the boarding passes?.
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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:38 am

Monday, 31.01.2012


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Service KLM KL 1875 operated by KLM CityHopper
Scheduled: 16.25 // 17.40


Well, AMS on KL. that´s usually the way to go now for me in direction KLM Crown Lounge and today is no exception
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Lots of people around, but nevertheless space enough for me.
The buffet
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Well stocked
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And also well designed
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The E90 is on schedule here.
While browsing the web I´ve stumbled around STR´s airport website with my flight and what I see?.
An aircraft change. The F100 is now on the board.
Sure ok, but wait, not ok with my 26F seat decision.
The self service machine showed me 11A open, no more window further in the back of the plane, but anyway better than a seat in the middle of nowhere.
The lady at the KL lounge desk was not that really helpful at all.
"The flight is fully booked, all exit row seats are taken".
Stupid, she told me that the new plane for the flight offers less seats than the original equipment.
Well I´ve told her that I´am suprised this way with the E90 and the F100 are both good for 100 seats each!.
Some 45 minutes prior to departure I´ve decided to go for the gate B04.
Lots of people around, looks like a good load on this service.
The second bus for me and there are three F100´s on the apron in action.
PH-OFN, thanx god, a new registration and leg no. 27 on type
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In the air since 13.01.1994 with Midway Airlines, Fokker, Pelita Air Services and KLM CityHopper. 5 100´s are still in the fleet and this is the "newest" example
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A little bit more sun and that blue fit´s much better
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The F100 looks like cute this way
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Boarding from the cold and windy apron, terrible in comparison to Florida.
Cargo haulers ready for work
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Boarding is completed with me as the last pax.
No question, 11B is taken and I leave my original seat 11A for 8A now and two for me, much better this way.
The load is 80% in the end.
Cabin crew is 1 male, 1 female, both young and attentive, nice.
The female looks like from eastern Europe, but thats life these days and sure ok this way.
To my surprise the planes door remains open for a couple of minutes till a young guy enters the cabin, catched the micro and decided to talk to his passengers.
"We´re ready to go. Everything is set to bring you ontime to STR, but there is a technical issue and it´s not safe to fly this way.
The fuel indication display is out of order, we´ve asked for the technicians and they are working right now.
I tell you more as soon as possible and I will go through the cabin and answer you´re questions".
Really well done here by KLC, he walks down the aisle and for sure there are some people asking the usual stuff in such situations.
Some 15 minutes later he´s once more in the cabin and told us that they need to restart some equipment which needs more time. We should wait and he ordered something more to eat for us.
Ok, thats the standard snack
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Confirmed, this is the F100
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Some more minutes later he´s once again in the cabin,
problem fixed and we´re on the way as fast as possible.
As fast as possible means also that we catched some ice on the wings during waiting and need de-icing now. Once again really well explained by the captain.
The retired couple in the row behind me hit´s the spot.
She: "Who was that young man talking to us?. Maybe the pilot?".
He: "No way, that was one of the technicians, you should listen closer."
Well, they know the way to go, for sure.
5.15 pm, 50 minutes late, is the final time to go for "City" to STR. 1 hour,10 minutes to fly. Departure from the 3453 meters "Buitenveldertbaan" 09, -3 degrees now and overcast sky.
No route or flightlevel details.
A view in the cabin fitted with dark blue clean fabric seaters
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And the good legroom
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Touchdown after a quick flight at 07, 6.30 pm, 50 minutes late. Also here -1 degrees and overcast sky.
My bag is the first example on the belt. STR know how to handle the priority tag.
With these freezing temperatures I head to my car as soon as possible and reached home not that long thereafter.

DL offers warm welcomed equipment, but not especially friendly service on the flight to ATL. Ontime and also the lounge offer at FLL, ok.
KL longhaul with mixed impressions from the crew. Cockpit, the purser and the middle aged female FA, also one of the younger girls, really nice. The others biz friendly to say the least, especially that long legged somewhat heavy blonde. She decides to spend more time checking her watch about the remaining time for work every single example when she´s walking by and I saw here.
Super nice service by the captain and also the cabin crew on the KLC service to STR, really well done, that´s the way to go in situations like this.

So, if nothing goes wrong, I should go for a long haul widebody comparison soon. Two weeks at home now and not a single day with a positive temperature, definitely heading for somewhere warmer is the thing to do for me.

Bye now, comments welcome,
FLIEGER67 or "Markus Klaus Felger", that´s the way the guys and girls at Facebook know me.
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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:59 am

Great report as always  

The 757 you flew from MCO to ATL was a former Song plane as you mentioned. This is also known as the 75X "Transcon" config (even though JFK-LAX/SFO is now solely on ex-TWA ETOPS 757s, or 75Es) and IMHO is the best aircraft to fly on in the United States domestically. It's too bad you had such a short flight on it. I also try to sit further up just to enjoy the sound more, especially over the wing. The second exit row is always nice if it's available.

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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:20 am

Hi Markus,

very nice report with many interesting ship pictures!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
These balcony looks so strange

There are many more things which look strange on the huge ships - I'm not a fan of these giants. Give me a smaller, more exclusive ship any day.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Bahamasair and the 732, imagine the noise later at departure.

It's like music! Unfortunately, I can only present pictures of that type in part III of my Asia series.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Surprise, also in german language

Not bad to find foreign language options on domestic birds.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
PH-BQO is leg no. 3 only for me on the 777-200 and yes, this is a new registration.

You had -200ERs on EK, too, didn't you?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Sure ok, especially the bread roll and the delicious cake, off course I´ve skipped the topping which was much to sweet for my choice, but the other part was ok

KL's long-haul catering is nothing to write home about - in contrast to AF's. The portion is so small - it's not bigger than the meal I got between KUL and CGK (report to follow in a few days).

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
My seat, dark blue thin and hard fabric, looks not that really comfy, but it was sure ok for the night with the generous legroom.

At least you still find 3-3-3 seating on the -200ERs. I felt really uncomfortable on the 77W.


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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:44 am

Very nice report, I used to fly in and out of FLL quite often and you are absolutely correct, the DL terminal is outdated and usually way too cold.... I always tried to minimize my time there!
 
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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:55 am

Good read as always Markus, good to see you starting to go longhaul, Europe is almost exhausted!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
While I was not that really happy with the check-in agents information at FLL, that there is no possibility for a seat change.
I decide to try my luck again. One more reason to be at the gate as soon as the agents arrive.
An elderly lady at work here.
"Sorry is it possible to change my seat for an exit row window?.
43A is selected but I prefer a bit more space".
"Ok I will check it and call you, if it´s possible, in a couple of minutes".
"Thank you".
And not that much minutes later I was called forward and received 31J.

- Nothing ventured nothing gained, always worth an ask.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Not a real window, but anyway it´s a nightflight and I try to catch some sleep on the way.

- Indeed, there are times where a window is not really needed, I gave one up on a night flight last year, no lasting damage  
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Cabin crew is five females, one middle aged, cute, large, black hair, well, good looking and nice,

- You need to start giving us pictures of these hot chicks you keep finding  
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Am I stupid or what, I simply don´t called for a special meal on this service.
But if you don´t ask, you don´t get the chance to catch one.
The purser was a super nice elder male. I´ve told him my story with the no pre-ordered special meal.
"Give me a minute, I will check, if there is something possible for you".
And no surprise with his personal attention, it was.
A special vegi meal for me now.

- Result!

Cheers

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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:56 am

Hola Markus!

Nice TR; very interesting those ships at FLL port... a rare view on your TRs, but nonetheless very interesting, pretty the weather did not really made your day brighter, but warmer than here anyway. Thanks!

The flights look pretty standard, very nice of the KL crew to help you out with the vegetarian meal, a nice touch to have it although you did not ask beforehand, that gives a good impression of them. Nice to see that you got your seat changed to that front row with tons of legroom, always great for a night flight where you can stretch your legs and have some rest.

The KLM Crown Lounge at AMS is always a very nice place, I remember being there and having a good rest time; the showers are as well really comfortable.

As you mentioned, the passport and security control after a long haul are really not well designed, not like the rest of the airport.

Glad to see you are going into another long haul and eager to read the comparison.

Salut!

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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:00 am

Hi Markus,

great as usual  
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 2):
no cruise fixed, no entry to the cruise port?.

So how did you get in?  
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3):
The cabin is clean so far

What is the red, disc-shaped object in the seat pocket?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3):
received 31J

Nice, on other 772s I've been in row 30, centre section, and seen the "enviable" seats accross the aisle. Were there any infants in the row 30 bulkhead seats?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3):
Norwich at maximum 37000 feet.

  

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 4):
KLM Crown Lounge

Looks nice. Almost at enough FB miles for a J class trip somewhere with my wife  
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 4):
The F100 is now on the board

Nice sub, they won't be around for long!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 4):
Really well done here by KLC

Good service, as I've always experienced from KLM when there are problems. KL remains one of my favourite airlines  

Thanks again Markus!

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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:26 am

Hey, such a number of comments, nice.


@J.:

Quoting KingFriday013 (Reply 5):
Great report as always

Thank you.

Quoting KingFriday013 (Reply 5):

The 757 you flew from MCO to ATL was a former Song plane as you mentioned. This is also known as the 75X "Transcon" config (even though JFK-LAX/SFO is now solely on ex-TWA ETOPS 757s, or 75Es) and IMHO is the best aircraft to fly on in the United States domestically. It's too bad you had such a short flight on it. I also try to sit further up just to enjoy the sound more, especially over the wing. The second exit row is always nice if it's available.

Really good to know more details around DL´s 752 fleet.


@PH:

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 6):

very nice report with many interesting ship pictures!

Thank you.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 6):

There are many more things which look strange on the huge ships - I'm not a fan of these giants. Give me a smaller, more exclusive ship any day.

Count me in for a personal experience this way.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 6):

It's like music! Unfortunately, I can only present pictures of that type in part III of my Asia series.

Looking forward to this story, you know.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 6):

Not bad to find foreign language options on domestic birds.

Exactly my opinion.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 6):

You had -200ERs on EK, too, didn't you?

Two times on the Emirates, sure.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 6):

KL's long-haul catering is nothing to write home about - in contrast to AF's. The portion is so small - it's not bigger than the meal I got between KUL and CGK (report to follow in a few days).

More to look forward to.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 6):

At least you still find 3-3-3 seating on the -200ERs. I felt really uncomfortable on the 77W.

There is not that much stuff to compare here, so I should do it more often.


@LufthansaHON:

Quoting LufthansaHON (Reply 7):


Very nice report, I used to fly in and out of FLL quite often and you are absolutely correct, the DL terminal is outdated and usually way too cold.... I always tried to minimize my time there!

Thank you and good to follow you´re confirmation about FLL.


@Mark:

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 8):

Good read as always Markus, good to see you starting to go longhaul, Europe is almost exhausted!

Thank you.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 8):

- Nothing ventured nothing gained, always worth an ask.

Thats the way to go, definitely.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 8):

- Indeed, there are times where a window is not really needed, I gave one up on a night flight last year, no lasting damage

It depends always on the situation, so here it was ok this way.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 8):

- You need to start giving us pictures of these hot chicks you keep finding

I should do so, definitely.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 8):

- Result!

Exactly.


@Roger:

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 9):

Nice TR; very interesting those ships at FLL port... a rare view on your TRs, but nonetheless very interesting, pretty the weather did not really made your day brighter, but warmer than here anyway. Thanks!

Thank you and sure ok with the temperature there.

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 9):

The flights look pretty standard, very nice of the KL crew to help you out with the vegetarian meal, a nice touch to have it although you did not ask beforehand, that gives a good impression of them. Nice to see that you got your seat changed to that front row with tons of legroom, always great for a night flight where you can stretch your legs and have some rest.

Exactly my impression with KL and the exit row seat.

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 9):

The KLM Crown Lounge at AMS is always a very nice place, I remember being there and having a good rest time; the showers are as well really comfortable.

As you mentioned, the passport and security control after a long haul are really not well designed, not like the rest of the airport.

Mixed impressions with AMS like you stated, the lounge real good, the immigration layout not.

Quoting ROGERBCN (Reply 9):

Glad to see you are going into another long haul and eager to read the comparison.

Coming up soon, if nothing goes wrong.


@R.:

Quoting signol (Reply 10):

great as usual

Thank you.

Quoting signol (Reply 10):

So how did you get in?

Perfect guidance by the man with the good connections!.

Quoting signol (Reply 10):

What is the red, disc-shaped object in the seat pocket?

DL´s advertissement for in flight online services.

Quoting signol (Reply 10):

Nice, on other 772s I've been in row 30, centre section, and seen the "enviable" seats accross the aisle. Were there any infants in the row 30 bulkhead seats?

Not on my flight.

Quoting signol (Reply 10):

Looks nice. Almost at enough FB miles for a J class trip somewhere with my wife

Really good to know.

Quoting signol (Reply 10):

Nice sub, they won't be around for long!

Exactly my impression.

Quoting signol (Reply 10):

Good service, as I've always experienced from KLM when there are problems. KL remains one of my favourite airlines

Count me in this way.

Greetings,
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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:21 am

Hi Markus,

A great read on this cold Sunday morning. Those cruise ships are truly impressive. My former office in Amsterdam had a great view of the spot where all the cruise ship had to make a 180 degrees turn to moore in. I could almost touch every time they did that. A wonderful sight!

The 752 remains a great plane to fly on. Nice bonus to get one of the birds with PTV's. I had a very pleasant equipment change on FLL-ATL this summer. The scheduled 752 was turned into MD-90. New to the log, and quite rare nowadays.

KLM seemed to be their usual great self. Good service on a comfortable plane with many IFE choices. And the Crown lounge is always a nice place to spend some time in.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Well, Delta´s terminal at FLL is not a real architecturally delight.

It isn't, but I did find FLL to be efficient. A few small terminals, easy security and no long walks.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
"Folks, it´s my real pleasure to fly you to Atlanta this evening". I like it this way, well done.

Yes, in my experience most domestic DL pilots were always quite talkitive and friendly. One of the reasons I prefer DL for domestic US flights.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Amsterdam is easy to locate on the screen.

I found the way destinations are listed on US airports (alphabetical) some getting used, compared to the chronolgical order we do here in Europe.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
An aircraft change. The F100 is now on the board.

A nice aircraft change from an enthousiast point of view. Too bad they always seem to have technical problems  
 
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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:50 am

Great TR, Markus !!!

and.......................you managed to get a picture of 'my' Celebrity Solstice   Cruised on her last November to STT and SXM...

too bad the weather was like this at FLL; at least you had warmer weather than overhere in Western-Europe...

Indeed, both the E190 and F100 have 100 seats installed, however, in Europe Select (Business Class) only 4 seats a row are for sale and not 5...not unlike the E190 where 4 seats are sold as 4 seats; therefore, 5 Europe Select rows on the F100 will have a total of 95 seats only...so, flight indeed could be overbooked by this move...
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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:56 am

Hi, good to follow more comments.


@Robert:

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 12):

A great read on this cold Sunday morning. Those cruise ships are truly impressive. My former office in Amsterdam had a great view of the spot where all the cruise ship had to make a 180 degrees turn to moore in. I could almost touch every time they did that. A wonderful sight!

Thank you and really impressive to hear about you´re former office in Amsterdam.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 12):

The 752 remains a great plane to fly on. Nice bonus to get one of the birds with PTV's. I had a very pleasant equipment change on FLL-ATL this summer. The scheduled 752 was turned into MD-90. New to the log, and quite rare nowadays.

Count me in for the MD90, also missing here.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 12):

KLM seemed to be their usual great self. Good service on a comfortable plane with many IFE choices. And the Crown lounge is always a nice place to spend some time in.

Also my opinion, you know.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 12):

It isn't, but I did find FLL to be efficient. A few small terminals, easy security and no long walks.

Efficient, so it is.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 12):

Yes, in my experience most domestic DL pilots were always quite talkitive and friendly. One of the reasons I prefer DL for domestic US flights.

Also my impression.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 12):

I found the way destinations are listed on US airports (alphabetical) some getting used, compared to the chronolgical order we do here in Europe.

Good point, strange from the first view for the European traveller.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 12):

A nice aircraft change from an enthousiast point of view. Too bad they always seem to have technical problems

I prefer the F100 as long as there are around, definitely.


@P.:

Quoting MH017 (Reply 13):
Great TR, Markus !!!

and.......................you managed to get a picture of 'my' Celebrity Solstice   Cruised on her last November to STT and SXM...

Thank you, as promised!.

Quoting MH017 (Reply 13):

too bad the weather was like this at FLL; at least you had warmer weather than overhere in Western-Europe...

Sure, but it was much warmer and therefore ok.

Quoting MH017 (Reply 13):

Indeed, both the E190 and F100 have 100 seats installed, however, in Europe Select (Business Class) only 4 seats a row are for sale and not 5...not unlike the E190 where 4 seats are sold as 4 seats; therefore, 5 Europe Select rows on the F100 will have a total of 95 seats only...so, flight indeed could be overbooked by this move...

So I learn more details this way.

Greetings,
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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:12 pm

Hey Markus ,
You know I love these reports that include the cruise ships   When I first saw the Solstice I thought you were taking us on a voyage with you   Something for you to show us in the future.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Bahamasair and the 732, imagine the noise later at departure. I love it

WOW never knew they still operated that airline. Thanks for that shot and it must be an amazing experience for that take off. Last time I was on those was an FR flight years ago .

Nice review of DL and KLM .

Have fun whatever your next destination is and Im sure we will see another great report soon  

Regards

Philip  
 
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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:46 pm

Hi Markus,

Thanks for the great TR. DL and KL both look pretty reasonable on these flights. I've always had great flights with both of these airlines, although I've never done a long-haul on KL. I loved your cruise ship spotting pictures. They really make me want to get back on a cruise very soon!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 2):
Holland America Line with the Neuw Amsterdam

Now that does bring back memories. I was on the inaugural sailing of that ship in 2010. It was a lovely cruise and we got to bless the ship's bell and sign a commemorative mural that is now placed in a frame somewhere on the ship. They also gave us a lovely Delft Blue plate and tile to remember this special event. I will treasure those memories for ever as it was a truly stunning trip! Thanks for the great picture of this magnificent vessel!

Looking forward to reading about your forthcoming adventures.

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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:48 pm

Hi Markus,

Is there any better way to recover from sultry Zumba and exhausting BodyPump class than reading your tropical adventure in Florida? I can just feel the warmth out of your gorgeous pictures. Oh, also the thrill of temperamental Bahamasair 732 which undoubtedly made a great stir over there!

By the way, I did not know that you were cruise ship spotter as well.  


Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 2):
Is this huge enough?

I do not know. I am just quite common plane spotter. What is the standard?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3):
Two nice 752´s in one picture

Are they not sexy with the winglets?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3):
the female TSA agent painted lots of hieroglyphics on my boarding pass

She must have been obsessed by ancient Egyptian culture.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3):
It was terrible cold in the lounge, the seaters at the window directly under the vents, no chance for me to stay there much longer.

They were just preparing you for the European cold temperature.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3):
Thanx god, he´s strapped, if not he´s jumping on his seat.

Good Heaven! Nobody was waiting for another LAX ordeal!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3):
"Folks, it´s my real pleasure to fly you to Atlanta this evening".

That is the spirit!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3):
Surprise, also in german language

Because the ambassador was on board. 


Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3):
Clear sky and 14 degrees, how I miss this!.

Tell me about it.   


Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3):
And not that much minutes later I was called forward and received 31J

Way to go! I think you experienced the benefit of your tier membership. In my case, I would have to pay an additional fee.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3):
No question, flight tracking for me

Oh, give me flight tracking at any time. No need of movies.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3):
Well, not my choice in the morning, but the breadroll suits me perfectly

I notice hash browns and tomatoes, but what did you get there on the very left?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3):
But thanx to a very good friend here, Suryo, I´am well prepared for the weather conditions.

That is very sweet of you.   


Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3):
Well, when I write this I´am surprised why they try do enter the EU with LED as the destination on the boarding passes?.

Probably assuming that Russia has become an EU member


Thanks for sharing a great Sunday afternoon read. One last question, did you see the performance of DL flash mob by chance at ATL?


Have a nice Sunday,
Suryo
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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:52 pm

Hi Markus. Hope you have your thermal underwear on during these cold times after the warmth of Florida  

Really good report with a nice relaxed style.
Those cruise liners are super impressive in size. Even more amazing to see one with a water slide the size of something found in a water park. Well, ships aren't for me, but I always like to see this kind of engineering with my work background.

Looks like your return flights to Europe were of an average nature but with no big letdowns either. I have flown DL x2, in fact 752s (N707TW + N710TW ex TWA birds) with a service above my expectations. I would fly them again.

Good to see you on the KL 772. A nice ship and enough legroom for even the tallest of people in your exit row.

A nice explanation on the tarmac in AMS regarding the fuel indicator malfunction. Always good to get the correct story from the team on the ground and not just some generic "delay" speech. Well done crew  .

Well, I would be happy to see the F100 over the EMB-190, I love both, but the old bird gives something a little extra in terms of excitement.

Hope you warm up soon mate and thanks for the report.
Cheers, Lee.
 
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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:08 pm

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 18):
Those cruise liners are super impressive in size. Even more amazing to see one with a water slide the size of something found in a water park

The Disney Dream and Disney Fantasy are even more impressive. They have a fully-blown water-coaster that goes out over the side of the ship in a clear tube so you can see down to the sea below. It's amazing fun especially when you're sailing along.  
Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 18):
Well, ships aren't for me, but I always like to see this kind of engineering with my work background.

You should give some of these cruise ships a try. They are really stunning and very stable these days. Particularly in the Medditerranean and Carribbean where the seas are calm.
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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:48 pm

Hi Markus,

Good report, as always.

All those ships must add up to a huge amount of money invested. I admit that I prefer something smaller, more like Oceania Cruises Nautica with about 600 passengers and 400 crew rather than the superships with 3,000+. The smaller ships can visit places the larger ones can't and visiting a location is less of a military operation. 
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3):
TSA agent painted lots of hieroglyphics on my boarding pass

An Egyptologist in her spare time, perhaps?

The door to the lounge doesn't look all that inviting. If you didn't know it was there, you might think it was just another broom cupboard. But once inside it looks decent enough.

The flight back across the Pond seems to have been comfortable enough with the extra legroom.

So, where to next?

Best wishes,
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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:14 pm

Great return trip, Markus!

Looks like you had a good trip with DL/KLM. Looks like you had some stormy weather on your departure day!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
There is a superlong standby and waiting list up to 60 pax.
It seems flight number 4 since 4.30 pm to ATL collects all the earlier no go´s.

Every flight I take to ATL is always 100% full - amazing! I know its their hub, and busiest airport in the world, but every flight, at all hours of the day or night?!  

Thanks for sharing!

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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:16 pm

Hey, nice to follow more comments.


@Phil:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 15):

You know I love these reports that include the cruise ships   When I first saw the Solstice I thought you were taking us on a voyage with you   Something for you to show us in the future.

Thank you and you know, I will do something like this.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 15):

WOW never knew they still operated that airline. Thanks for that shot and it must be an amazing experience for that take off. Last time I was on those was an FR flight years ago .

Really special for us Europeans, definitely.


@G.:

Quoting gpbcroppers63 (Reply 16):

Thanks for the great TR. DL and KL both look pretty reasonable on these flights. I've always had great flights with both of these airlines, although I've never done a long-haul on KL. I loved your cruise ship spotting pictures. They really make me want to get back on a cruise very soon!

Thank you and count me in for the cruise.

Quoting gpbcroppers63 (Reply 16):

Now that does bring back memories. I was on the inaugural sailing of that ship in 2010. It was a lovely cruise and we got to bless the ship's bell and sign a commemorative mural that is now placed in a frame somewhere on the ship. They also gave us a lovely Delft Blue plate and tile to remember this special event. I will treasure those memories for ever as it was a truly stunning trip! Thanks for the great picture of this magnificent vessel!

Really good to know.


@Suryo:

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):

Is there any better way to recover from sultry Zumba and exhausting BodyPump class than reading your tropical adventure in Florida? I can just feel the warmth out of your gorgeous pictures. Oh, also the thrill of temperamental Bahamasair 732 which undoubtedly made a great stir over there!

By the way, I did not know that you were cruise ship spotter as well.

Thank you and planes/trains/ships for me.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):

I do not know. I am just quite common plane spotter. What is the standard?

These are some of the largest examples around.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):

Are they not sexy with the winglets?

Definitely.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):

She must have been obsessed by ancient Egyptian culture.

It seems so.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):

They were just preparing you for the European cold temperature.

Definitely.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):

Good Heaven! Nobody was waiting for another LAX ordeal!

Exactly my opinion.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):

That is the spirit!

So it is.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):

Because the ambassador was on board.

Hah, so it looks like.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):

Tell me about it.

Something positive would be nice.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):

Way to go! I think you experienced the benefit of your tier membership. In my case, I would have to pay an additional fee.

That might be true.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):

Oh, give me flight tracking at any time. No need of movies.

Count me in, you know.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):

I notice hash browns and tomatoes, but what did you get there on the very left?

Some cooked potatoes.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):

That is very sweet of you.

My pleasure, you know.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 17):

Probably assuming that Russia has become an EU member


Thanks for sharing a great Sunday afternoon read. One last question, did you see the performance of DL flash mob by chance at ATL?

Good point with the russians and no, no flash mob for me at ATL.


@Lee:

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 18):
Hi Markus. Hope you have your thermal underwear on during these cold times after the warmth of Florida  

Really good report with a nice relaxed style.

Thank you.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 18):

Those cruise liners are super impressive in size. Even more amazing to see one with a water slide the size of something found in a water park. Well, ships aren't for me, but I always like to see this kind of engineering with my work background.

Count me in this way.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 18):

Looks like your return flights to Europe were of an average nature but with no big letdowns either. I have flown DL x2, in fact 752s (N707TW + N710TW ex TWA birds) with a service above my expectations. I would fly them again.

Good to see you on the KL 772. A nice ship and enough legroom for even the tallest of people in your exit row.
Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 18):

Both DL and KL are sure ok here.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 18):

Well, I would be happy to see the F100 over the EMB-190, I love both, but the old bird gives something a little extra in terms of excitement.

Exactly my opinion, you know.


@G.:

Quoting gpbcroppers63 (Reply 19):

The Disney Dream and Disney Fantasy are even more impressive. They have a fully-blown water-coaster that goes out over the side of the ship in a clear tube so you can see down to the sea below. It's amazing fun especially when you're sailing along.

Thanx again for the further informations. Sounds really good.

Quoting gpbcroppers63 (Reply 19):

You should give some of these cruise ships a try. They are really stunning and very stable these days. Particularly in the Medditerranean and Carribbean where the seas are calm.

Once more interesting ideas.


@Roy:

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 20):

Good report, as always.

All those ships must add up to a huge amount of money invested. I admit that I prefer something smaller, more like Oceania Cruises Nautica with about 600 passengers and 400 crew rather than the superships with 3,000+. The smaller ships can visit places the larger ones can't and visiting a location is less of a military operation.

Thank you and sure a good idea to go for a more personal cruise some days.

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 20):

An Egyptologist in her spare time, perhaps?

Good point.

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 20):

The door to the lounge doesn't look all that inviting. If you didn't know it was there, you might think it was just another broom cupboard. But once inside it looks decent enough.

The flight back across the Pond seems to have been comfortable enough with the extra legroom.

Sure the point with the lounge and the flights are ok.

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 20):

So, where to next?

Eastbound, Thailand and Singapore.


@Matthew:

Quoting 767747 (Reply 21):
Great return trip, Markus!

Looks like you had a good trip with DL/KLM. Looks like you had some stormy weather on your departure day!
Quoting 767747 (Reply 21):

Thank you and the flights are sure ok.

Quoting 767747 (Reply 21):

Every flight I take to ATL is always 100% full - amazing! I know its their hub, and busiest airport in the world, but every flight, at all hours of the day or night?!

Same here, impressive.

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Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:37 pm

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 2):
While I was not that really happy with the check-in agents information at FLL, that there is no possibility for a seat change.

DL agents don't have access to KL's seatmap. They can request a seat, but have to take whatever KL gives. There is a way to pick a particular seat, but you have to know the seat number and whether or not it's taken (or blocked). Then, KL might accept it. Otherwise, only the agent actually working the KL flight has access to a full map.
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Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:50 pm

Hi Markus !

Thanks for a great continuation of your trip to Florida! Nice pictures as always and amazing how many cruise ships there are there !

DL and KL look nice! You were very lucky to get an exit row seat on KL.

I agree that the meal on KL looks a bit small.

Great to see you on a 777; hope to see more of that!

Looking forward to your trip reports to SIN and BKK!

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 23):
DL agents don't have access to KL's seatmap. They can request a seat, but have to take whatever KL gives. There is a way to pick a particular seat, but you have to know the seat number and whether or not it's taken (or blocked). Then, KL might accept it. Otherwise, only the agent actually working the KL flight has access to a full map.

It's the same for Star Alliance carriers; you check in with UA for UA and LH/BD/SK etc flights and the UA agent cannot change the seat on the other carrier. I suspect it's the same for AA and oneworld carriers.

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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:09 pm

Looks like you had some nice flights there -shame you didn't get an upgrade on DL

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The nice 752 en detail

Lovely pic

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):

And not that much minutes later I was called forward and received 31J. The place with the generous legroom. Not a real window, but anyway it´s a nightflight and I try to catch some sleep on the way.

Better to have an exit row on an night flight

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Now that´s what I call legroom, really comfy to stay here

Bit annoying to have the exit there - looks like it takes up a lot of space - still, you seem to be comfortable
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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:12 pm

Hey, good to see more comments.


@Lars:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 24):

Thanks for a great continuation of your trip to Florida! Nice pictures as always and amazing how many cruise ships there are there !

Thank you.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 24):

DL and KL look nice! You were very lucky to get an exit row seat on KL.

I agree that the meal on KL looks a bit small.

Great to see you on a 777; hope to see more of that!

Lucky me, definitely and we will see for more 777´s.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 24):

Looking forward to your trip reports to SIN and BKK!

Coming up soon, if nothing goes wrong.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 24):

It's the same for Star Alliance carriers; you check in with UA for UA and LH/BD/SK etc flights and the UA agent cannot change the seat on the other carrier. I suspect it's the same for AA and oneworld carriers.

Pretty interesting to follow that thing, never noticed it.

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 23):

DL agents don't have access to KL's seatmap. They can request a seat, but have to take whatever KL gives. There is a way to pick a particular seat, but you have to know the seat number and whether or not it's taken (or blocked). Then, KL might accept it. Otherwise, only the agent actually working the KL flight has access to a full map.

So it was not only an excuse this time. Good to know.

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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:15 pm

Hi, Gabriel,

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 25):


Looks like you had some nice flights there -shame you didn't get an upgrade on DL

Next time, hopefully.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 25):

Lovely pic

Thank you.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 25):

Better to have an exit row on an night flight

Definitely.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 25):

Bit annoying to have the exit there - looks like it takes up a lot of space - still, you seem to be comfortable

Sure ok for me this way.

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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:44 pm

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 22):
Thanx again for the further informations. Sounds really good.

No probs. Glad you found it interesting. The Disney Cruise ships really are lovely and it's a lot more upmarket than you would imagine. It's not full of screaming kids. Although you do have to fight with a few of them to get on the water slide first!   My Dad and I were the biggest kids on the ship when it came to that. Lol!!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 22):
Once more interesting ideas.

Yeah definitely. I adore cruises. They're such a nice way to see loads of places and the on-board experience is normally amazing if you choose the right cruise line!
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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:10 pm

Hi Markus,

great report as usual!
Seems like you enjoyed your little Skyteam getaway!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Bahamasair and the 732, imagine the noise later at departure. I love it

Would love to fly it!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
One of 157, impressive, active 752´s in the fleet.

That's for sure an impressive amount of birds of the same kind!

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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:37 pm

Hi Markus

Nice return report as well. Good you got into the cruise harbor  .
Must agree on T2, not the most interesting place in FLL to be at.
I've flewn KL622 many times before, back in the days it was a 763.
Great to see the late departure. Back in the days you had Delta and KLM leaving at 5.00pm within an hour from each other

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 1):
Well described in Marc´s story:

Jetting The Blue Way To New York! (by MSS658 Feb 4 2012 in Trip Reports)

Thanks! FLL is well described in some other reports as well for the ones who are interested
Air Canada, North America's Hidden Jewel? (by MSS658 Nov 6 2010 in Trip Reports)
Wifi And Condensation On US Airways! (by MSS658 Dec 10 2010 in Trip Reports)
Losing My Southwest Virginity! (by MSS658 Dec 18 2011 in Trip Reports)


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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:07 am

A great read, thanks for sharing...

That was an impressive line up of ships docked in FLL!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 2):
The Navigator of the Seas

I've actually been on this ship, from Rome, through Naples, Athens, Kusadasi, Rhodes, Alexandria & Palermo!! Great trip!
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Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:58 am

Great report Markus!

It seems like you had 3 decent flights with KL & DL. It always cool to see a report featuring a 757 as they are pretty rare here.

BTW thanks for the cruise ship photo's. I should really consider taking a cruise sometime.

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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:42 am

Hi Markus,

Nice return part. Good for you to catch some warmth in Florida, should get you through these cold and dire weeks.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
But finally the man with the good connections decides, that I´am going on a cruise today. He should know it better than me!.

Ok, these huge cruise ships are not really my cup of tea (but give me some warships anyday!) but good for you. Also nice that somebody fixed you with the entrance, I guess you could spend your day in a worse way as well...

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
I don´t even know why, but this feels like Donald Duck is on the way with his small boat between the big cruisers

Hah, I agree with you here!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Yes, I like curbside check-in, that´s something for me with these warm, windy and somewhat humid weather conditions

The weather looks a bit dull - any thunderstorms around?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
How I like these non European standard equipment, the B717 and a B1900

What do you mean non-standard? Every time I go to the airport I see a few 717s  
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
How I like these tails

A nice variety there for sure.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Bahamasair and the 732, imagine the noise later at departure. I love it

Congrats, that's indeed a nice catch! Not too many of those classic -200s around these days...

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Ah, there is also an Sky Club at FLL

That entrance looks very low key, not exactly worthy of a premium lounge. Then again it hardly is a premium lounge...

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
What I´ve thoroughly dislike is the climatization.
It seems they are prepared for 30 degrees, what is not really the point today.
It was terrible cold in the lounge, the seaters at the window directly under the vents, no chance for me to stay there much longer.

Hey, that's American style for you! I shudder thinking all the energy they are wasting there, not to mention their huge electricity bill! Don't go to Hong Kong, it'll be the same in their malls...

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
One of 157, impressive, active 752´s in the fleet.

Yes, they still have a very large fleet of these nice classic birds. Hoping to catch a couple of these in June!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
"Old Rauma", named after the finish world heritage site and the world largest wooden city center of Rauma town, should shuttle me across the pond tonight.

Hey, a nice bird, always happy to see some Finnish places there! Now come to Finland to visit Rauma itself, you can combine that with the new KF/DC ARN-POR flight!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
And not that much minutes later I was called forward and received 31J. The place with the generous legroom. Not a real window, but anyway it´s a nightflight and I try to catch some sleep on the way.

That's a good choice, I heard the normal economy seats on these KLM triple sevens are quite cramped.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Sure ok, especially the bread roll and the delicious cake, off course I´ve skipped the topping which was much to sweet for my choice, but the other part was ok

The pasta main course looks good and rather substantial as well. Kinda late for a dinner service, though - I bet most of the pax, including me would just like to sleep.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
The breakfast, vegi of course

I find it funny that they have that sticker with "Delicious Meal" there. This reminds me of Jonas and his "Lagom amount of decent quality pictures" trip reports...  
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Now that´s what I call legroom, really comfy to stay here

Doesn't that huge slide bump get on your way? Or can you actually use it as a leg rest?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Well, when I write this I´am surprised why they try do enter the EU with LED as the destination on the boarding passes?.

Well, some people.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Well, AMS on KL. that´s usually the way to go now for me in direction KLM Crown Lounge and today is no exception

Hey, looking good as ever! Really looking forward to my first visit there in three weeks!
 
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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:59 am

Hello Markus,

Am I wrong now or did you clear your backlog? Seeing this report and snow in AMS tells me you made this trup very recently, no?
A nice report and the port of Fort Lauderdale was a nice bonus. I’m in no way a ships lover - mind you I get seasick by just looking at them - but the amount of large ones gathered there is sure impressive. What apparently was less impressive was the weather, but you cannot have it all. DL and the 752 = nice combo and flight and glad to see you scored a TATL ride on KL’s 777.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
OLCI, well OLCI is possible, definitely, but not for me also in this case.
Another example of the non up-to-date OLCI reliability by the Skyteam airlines.

Why oh why does this happen every time. It’s more and more likely it maybe has something to do with you? Too many Skyteam bookings confuse the system Markus   But I understand your ‘not amused’!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
One of 157, impressive, active 752´s in the fleet.

What a number! And they are all operating?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
And no surprise with his personal attention, it was.
A special vegi meal for me now.

That’s very good of the purser and nice customer service.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Now that´s what I call legroom, really comfy to stay here

Wasn’t it bothersome that you have to put your legs somewhat sideways due to the curvature of the door? I found that quite annoying some years ago, being sat in an exit row on an IB 743.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Really well done here by KLC, he walks down the aisle and for sure there are some people asking the usual stuff in such situations.

Wow, he even went through the cabin to answer people’s questions? Excellent communication here with the Cityhopper guys.

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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:45 pm

Hey, nice to follow more comments.


@Gareth:

Quoting gpbcroppers63 (Reply 28):

No probs. Glad you found it interesting. The Disney Cruise ships really are lovely and it's a lot more upmarket than you would imagine. It's not full of screaming kids. Although you do have to fight with a few of them to get on the water slide first!   My Dad and I were the biggest kids on the ship when it came to that. Lol!!

Good to know, sounds like something for me.

Quoting gpbcroppers63 (Reply 28):

Yeah definitely. I adore cruises. They're such a nice way to see loads of places and the on-board experience is normally amazing if you choose the right cruise line!

Count me in this way.


@Martin:

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 29):


great report as usual!
Seems like you enjoyed your little Skyteam getaway!

Thank you and sure I like it this way.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 29):

Would love to fly it!

Count me in.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 29):

That's for sure an impressive amount of birds of the same kind!

Also impressive from my point of view.


@Marc:

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 30):

Nice return report as well. Good you got into the cruise harbor

Thank you.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 30):
Must agree on T2, not the most interesting place in FLL to be at.
I've flewn KL622 many times before, back in the days it was a 763.
Great to see the late departure. Back in the days you had Delta and KLM leaving at 5.00pm within an hour from each other

Ah, good to know.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 30):

Thanks! FLL is well described in some other reports as well for the ones who are interested

FLL is a well used place, so it seems.


@aussiepomm:

Quoting aussiepomm (Reply 31):
A great read, thanks for sharing...

That was an impressive line up of ships docked in FLL!

Thank you.

Quoting aussiepomm (Reply 31):

I've actually been on this ship, from Rome, through Naples, Athens, Kusadasi, Rhodes, Alexandria & Palermo!! Great trip!

Really good to know.


@aflyingkiwi:

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 32):

It seems like you had 3 decent flights with KL & DL. It always cool to see a report featuring a 757 as they are pretty rare here.

BTW thanks for the cruise ship photo's. I should really consider taking a cruise sometime.

Thank you and sure a good idea to catch one of these huge cruisers.


@P.:

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 33):

Nice return part. Good for you to catch some warmth in Florida, should get you through these cold and dire weeks.

Thank you.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 33):

Ok, these huge cruise ships are not really my cup of tea (but give me some warships anyday!) but good for you. Also nice that somebody fixed you with the entrance, I guess you could spend your day in a worse way as well...

Warships also for me, please!.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 33):

Hah, I agree with you here!

Hey, so it feels like.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 33):

The weather looks a bit dull - any thunderstorms around?

Not thunderstorms, thanx god.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 33):

What do you mean non-standard? Every time I go to the airport I see a few 717s

Not in Germany, you know!.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 33):

A nice variety there for sure.

Also my impression.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 33):

Congrats, that's indeed a nice catch! Not too many of those classic -200s around these days...

I love to fly it somedays.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 33):

That entrance looks very low key, not exactly worthy of a premium lounge. Then again it hardly is a premium lounge...

Not the super premium example, definitely.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 33):

Hey, that's American style for you! I shudder thinking all the energy they are wasting there, not to mention their huge electricity bill! Don't go to Hong Kong, it'll be the same in their malls...

Oh, yes I remember Hong Kong with the same situation.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 33):

Yes, they still have a very large fleet of these nice classic birds. Hoping to catch a couple of these in June!

Good to know.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 33):

Hey, a nice bird, always happy to see some Finnish places there! Now come to Finland to visit Rauma itself, you can combine that with the new KF/DC ARN-POR flight!

Will do so and this KF/DC thing is still on my mind.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 33):

That's a good choice, I heard the normal economy seats on these KLM triple sevens are quite cramped.

Sure ok for me this way.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 33):

The pasta main course looks good and rather substantial as well. Kinda late for a dinner service, though - I bet most of the pax, including me would just like to sleep.

A good number of people declined and tried to sleep this way.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 33):

I find it funny that they have that sticker with "Delicious Meal" there. This reminds me of Jonas and his "Lagom amount of decent quality pictures" trip reports...

Hah, good point.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 33):

Doesn't that huge slide bump get on your way? Or can you actually use it as a leg rest?

It works like a leg rest for me, ok this way.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 33):

Well, some people.

Definitely.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 33):

Hey, looking good as ever! Really looking forward to my first visit there in three weeks!

Ah, good to know, enjoy.


@Nils:

Quoting sultanils (Reply 34):

Am I wrong now or did you clear your backlog? Seeing this report and snow in AMS tells me you made this trup very recently, no?
A nice report and the port of Fort Lauderdale was a nice bonus. I’m in no way a ships lover - mind you I get seasick by just looking at them - but the amount of large ones gathered there is sure impressive. What apparently was less impressive was the weather, but you cannot have it all. DL and the 752 = nice combo and flight and glad to see you scored a TATL ride on KL’s 777.

Thank you and no kind of any backlog for me these days.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 34):

Why oh why does this happen every time. It’s more and more likely it maybe has something to do with you? Too many Skyteam bookings confuse the system Markus   But I understand your ‘not amused’!

So it seems!.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 34):

What a number! And they are all operating?

At least according to airfleets they are.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 34):

That’s very good of the purser and nice customer service.

Exactly my opinion.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 34):

Wasn’t it bothersome that you have to put your legs somewhat sideways due to the curvature of the door? I found that quite annoying some years ago, being sat in an exit row on an IB 743.

Sure ok for me this way, it works like a leg rest here.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 34):

Wow, he even went through the cabin to answer people’s questions? Excellent communication here with the Cityhopper guys.

Absolutely, superb explained by the captain and also his walk around, well done.

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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:23 pm

This is a very good and interesting report. Ah, I've been to FLL too many times! But when you are coming from a cold climate (New York) in the Winter, it is wonderful to smell the warm sweet air. I have a vacation home in Florida, but next time I am going to PBI because it's an easier experience.

I've been on many cruises, perhaps over 25, starting in 1979 with the SS Rotterdam. Those were beautiful ships. But the new megaships don't look like ships at all - they look like floating boxes with balconies. Ugly. The only ships that resemble real ships are Cunard and Holland-America. But they all offer a nice vacation, I have to admit.

I flew many times on the F-100s of Midway Airlines. It's nice to see that some of them are still in the air. I always enjoyed the Fokkers, especially in the front of the cabin where it was so quiet.
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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:03 am

Hi Markus,

Good to read part 2 of your American adventure.

As for the cruise ships, well, don't think I'd fancy going on them but they certainly are impressive, some of them tower over the buildings on the quayside.

Good you got the exit row on the night flight, we also have these reserved for the SIN-AKL on the 777 and am really looking forward to that extra legroom. The meals looked nice I thought, better than the one on DL on the way out.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
cars full of whitehaired travellers
stopped at places where the signs show clearly no stopping and the dispatchers yelling around

Sounds just like an airport!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Stupid, she told me that the new plane for the flight offers less seats than the original equipment.
Well I´ve told her that I´am suprised this way with the E90 and the F100 are both good for 100 seats each!.

Markus, some airport employees do not either care or know the difference between aircrafts. I have lost count of the number of blank looks I've recived from colleagues when expressing surprise that an F100 is operating the VIE flight or wondering why an A330 is going to DUS. They're in the wrong job......

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Two weeks at home now and not a single day with a positive temperature, definitely heading for somewhere warmer is the thing to do for me.

Any room in your suitcase?  

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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:43 pm

Hey, nice to follow more comments.


@daviation:

Quoting daviation (Reply 36):


This is a very good and interesting report. Ah, I've been to FLL too many times! But when you are coming from a cold climate (New York) in the Winter, it is wonderful to smell the warm sweet air. I have a vacation home in Florida, but next time I am going to PBI because it's an easier experience.

Thank you and good to know about PBI.

Quoting daviation (Reply 36):

I've been on many cruises, perhaps over 25, starting in 1979 with the SS Rotterdam. Those were beautiful ships. But the new megaships don't look like ships at all - they look like floating boxes with balconies. Ugly. The only ships that resemble real ships are Cunard and Holland-America. But they all offer a nice vacation, I have to admit.

Impressive and good to follow you´re statement.

Quoting daviation (Reply 36):

I flew many times on the F-100s of Midway Airlines. It's nice to see that some of them are still in the air. I always enjoyed the Fokkers, especially in the front of the cabin where it was so quiet.

One of the very few types with a good number operational in Europe and not in the States.


@Hannah:

Quoting infodesk (Reply 37):

Good to read part 2 of your American adventure.

Thank you.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 37):

As for the cruise ships, well, don't think I'd fancy going on them but they certainly are impressive, some of them tower over the buildings on the quayside.

Good point, smaller feels more personal, definitely.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 37):

Good you got the exit row on the night flight, we also have these reserved for the SIN-AKL on the 777 and am really looking forward to that extra legroom. The meals looked nice I thought, better than the one on DL on the way out.

Really good to know and sure a good idea.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 37):

Sounds just like an airport!

Hah, so it feels like.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 37):

Markus, some airport employees do not either care or know the difference between aircrafts. I have lost count of the number of blank looks I've recived from colleagues when expressing surprise that an F100 is operating the VIE flight or wondering why an A330 is going to DUS. They're in the wrong job......

That sounds once again strange, it seems they are really not in the right job.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 37):

Any room in your suitcase?

Well, let me check it. Yes, ah yes, there is some space here. Yes, definitely, it seems possible to find some more space!.

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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:57 pm

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 14):
So I learn more details this way

Even have to correct myself on my previous reply to you:

When a Fokker 100 will be used (i.s.o. E190) for every Business-Class/Europe Select row, 2 seats are non-saleable, giving the passenger ALWAYS an empty seat next to the one seated on...so 5 seats placed - only 3 seats can be sold...likewise, in my previous reply, 5 Europe Select rows will 'deduct' 10 seats from the total...in this case it will become a 15C/75Y configuration on the 100 i.s.o. a 16C/84Y on the E190...quite a change and the 'reason' for an easy overbooked situation...
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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:52 pm

Hi, P.,

Quoting MH017 (Reply 39):

When a Fokker 100 will be used (i.s.o. E190) for every Business-Class/Europe Select row, 2 seats are non-saleable, giving the passenger ALWAYS an empty seat next to the one seated on...so 5 seats placed - only 3 seats can be sold...likewise, in my previous reply, 5 Europe Select rows will 'deduct' 10 seats from the total...in this case it will become a 15C/75Y configuration on the 100 i.s.o. a 16C/84Y on the E190...quite a change and the 'reason' for an easy overbooked situation...

Thanx again for the very detailed reply. The whole situation is much better to follow this way.

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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:52 am

Great trip report. Brings back memories of the day I boarded Allure of the Seas this past November. Though the port wasn't nearly as busy as the day you visited it.
 
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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:35 pm

Great report!
As a cruising veteran, this was an interesting read for me. Also glad you had a nice experience on Delta. They tend to be criticized a lot, but my recent experiences have been quite good with them.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 2):
The Allure of the Seas

Don't know if anyone has said it yet...that's the largest cruise ship in the world. Absolutely amazing!

Quoting gpbcroppers63 (Reply 28):
The Disney Cruise ships really are lovely and it's a lot more upmarket than you would imagine. It's not full of screaming kids.

Yes, they are beautiful ships and really are geared toward adults almost as much as children.

Quoting gpbcroppers63 (Reply 28):
Yeah definitely. I adore cruises. They're such a nice way to see loads of places and the on-board experience is normally amazing if you choose the right cruise line!

Agreed. If you go on a cruise expecting gourmet food and five-star service, you will be disappointed. However, if you go expecting good food and "friendly service with a smile", you will have a blast.

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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:15 pm

Hi and nice to follow more comments.

@Matt:

Quoting asuflyer05 (Reply 41):
Great trip report. Brings back memories of the day I boarded Allure of the Seas this past November. Though the port wasn't nearly as busy as the day you visited it.

Thank you and it seems that was a good day for me spotting the port.


@AAairplane:

Quoting AAairplane (Reply 42):

Great report!
As a cruising veteran, this was an interesting read for me. Also glad you had a nice experience on Delta. They tend to be criticized a lot, but my recent experiences have been quite good with them.

Thank you and DL was sure ok in this case.

Quoting AAairplane (Reply 42):

Don't know if anyone has said it yet...that's the largest cruise ship in the world. Absolutely amazing!

I know but it´s definitely worth it to show it this way.

Quoting AAairplane (Reply 42):

Yes, they are beautiful ships and really are geared toward adults almost as much as children.

Count me in.

Quoting AAairplane (Reply 42):

Agreed. If you go on a cruise expecting gourmet food and five-star service, you will be disappointed. However, if you go expecting good food and "friendly service with a smile", you will have a blast.

Exactly my opinion.

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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:24 pm

Hello Markus

Great continuation on your Florida adventures. Nice with KLM on the way home. Looks to be great service. Pity about the F100 problems though, but I´m guess you´re quit used to that:D

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
but also together with a number of ships to see at Port Everglades.

So you like ships too?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 2):
Is this huge enough

OMG! Can you believe that these actually can kepp afloating? 
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
Daylight with the window blinds open not that far from AMS and the connecting gates on the screen

Really like these blue details in KLM´s cabin´s

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
call legroom, really comfy to stay here

Pity about the escape slide though!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Thread starter):
He: "No way, that was one of the technicians, you should listen closer."

Hehehe 

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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:46 pm

Hi, Robert,

Quoting parton87 (Reply 44):

Great continuation on your Florida adventures. Nice with KLM on the way home. Looks to be great service. Pity about the F100 problems though, but I´m guess you´re quit used to that:D

Thank you and sure that was not the first special time on the F100.

Quoting parton87 (Reply 44):

So you like ships too?

From time to time!.

Quoting parton87 (Reply 44):

OMG! Can you believe that these actually can kepp afloating? 

Definitely!.

Quoting parton87 (Reply 44):

Really like these blue details in KLM´s cabin´s

Count me in this way.

Quoting parton87 (Reply 44):

Pity about the escape slide though!

Not a real problem here.

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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:59 am

Hi Markus,

really nice to read this part of your Florida trip, lovely cruise ships. I like them, too! And moreover, good to see Nieuw Amsterdam also featured in your report. I want to sail it, some day!
KLM doesn't surprise, great flexible service, as usual, also with that meal. But I agree, why always that spinach in the morning/breakfast?! It's too common on planefood.
Congrats on the 'new' F100. Also for me, not the most reliable plane anymore these days, but comfort is very good on KLC. I'm not happy with the little catering offering on their flights though, a small sandwich or 2 of these small bags would be better.

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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:51 am

Hoi, Eric,

really good to follow you´re comment.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 46):

really nice to read this part of your Florida trip, lovely cruise ships. I like them, too! And moreover, good to see Nieuw Amsterdam also featured in your report. I want to sail it, some day!

Count me in for the Nieuw Amsterdam, looks like nice.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 46):
KLM doesn't surprise, great flexible service, as usual, also with that meal. But I agree, why always that spinach in the morning/breakfast?! It's too common on planefood.

Exactly my opinion, you know.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 46):
Congrats on the 'new' F100. Also for me, not the most reliable plane anymore these days, but comfort is very good on KLC. I'm not happy with the little catering offering on their flights though, a small sandwich or 2 of these small bags would be better.

It seems they are soon gone, so a good catch this way.

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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:46 pm

Hello Flieger67

That's an impressive array of cruise ships you saw there! Very interesting pictures, always nice to see something else for a change.

Interesting 737-200 you encountered in FLL! Together with the DC-9-51 in the first part it gives me a nostalgic feeling!

Hey, what has become of your "last-row-habit"? Doesn't apply to longhaul travel, I guess  

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RE: Cruise Ship Spotting At FLL, Or Not?

Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:36 pm

Hey, J.,

pretty nice to follow you´re message.

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 48):

That's an impressive array of cruise ships you saw there! Very interesting pictures, always nice to see something else for a change.

Thank you.

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 48):

Interesting 737-200 you encountered in FLL! Together with the DC-9-51 in the first part it gives me a nostalgic feeling!

Count me in this way.

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 48):

Hey, what has become of your "last-row-habit"? Doesn't apply to longhaul travel, I guess

Changed more and more to exit rows these days!.

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