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Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:47 pm




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Background
I early 2011 my friend Satchmo and I decided to go on a spotting trip to Asia in late October. We had been planning to visit Singapore and Kuala Lumpur from the very beginning and focused on getting on Qantas' A380 between LHR and SIN. I had flown Qantas before, but I wanted to increase the number of A380 carriers in my log to five. At a later date, we also decided to include Jakarta where we had never been before. Of course we tried to get as many new airlines and interesting types as possible and it took a while to create an exciting itinerary. Finally, we booked 10 flights operated by 8 different carriers (including four new ones) and reserved hotel rooms in Singapore (one night), Kuala Lumpur (one night), Jakarta (two nights) and Bangkok (one night). We exclusively combined one-way flights and one-way combos, so we had eight different flight reservations in the end. Here's what the preliminary itinerary looked like:

Munich-London
London-Singapore
Singapore-Kuala Lumpur
Kuala Lumpur-Jakarta
Jakarta-Singapore
Singapore-Phuket
Phuket-Bangkok
Bangkok-Mumbai
Mumbai-London
London-Munich


While Satchmo was planning to use our entire time at Jakarta for taking pictures, I decided to squeeze in a domestic day trip. I found an interesting combo on two new carriers and added three more flights:

Jakarta-Semarang
Semarang-Surabaya
Surabaya-Jakarta


Now I was looking forward to 13 flights on 10 different carriers - including 6 new ones - and 4 widebodies (details to follow). At that point of time I couldn't imagine that I would end up on 14 flights, 7 new airlines and 5 widebodies.


Parts I & II can be found here: QF A380 Grounded, Bags Lost - LHR-SIN, TK A330/340 (by PlaneHunter Jan 30 2012 in Trip Reports) Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W (by PlaneHunter Feb 21 2012 in Trip Reports)


Sriwijaya Air Surprise
The booking process on Sriwijaya Air's website had been quick and easy. Unlike Lion Air, the carrier accepted my MasterCard without any problems. However, I couldn't find any details about the aircraft type used for the Jakarta-Semarang-Surabaya one-stop service. A.net users Lufthansa747 and Mandala499 who had also given me some general advice about flying in Indonesia suggested that it could either be a 737-200 or 737-300 - with tendency towards the latter. I had already flown on the 737-200 twice and my main goal was getting a new airline, so it wasn't a big issue. Knowing the type in advance would have still been nice, nevertheless.

Btw - after I had finished the booking process, I read a note that Sriwijaya Air would contact me by phone for verification. Lufthansa747 told me that the airline had never contacted him but it really did in my case. A friendly lady called me a few days after booking and asked a few questions - I had never experienced anything similar before.

Back to Jakarta. After we had checked in at the Jakarta Airport Hotel (located at Terminal 2) following our arrival from Kuala Lumpur, we took the shuttle bus to Terminal 1 to have a look at the spotting facilities. I was also planning to find out more about my Sriwijaya Air flight. Apart from that, I was hoping to be able to make a seat reservation.

The outdoor area between the road and the terminal halls can become very crowded during peak times (picture taken on the next day):



When I checked a departures screen for the next morning, I was very surprised to find 09:10 (scheduled time) and 08:05 (actual time) next to my flight number SJ224. This was odd considering that it had already been 08:05 at the time of booking. Well, one more reason to talk to the airline. We soon discovered a Sriwijaya Air office - perfect for me (picture taken on the next day):


A friendly lady welcomed me and tried her best to answer my questions. Her English skills were limited, but that wasn't a big problem. First of all, she confirmed that the flight would definitely depart at 08:05. Later I would find out that the different schedule was only valid for a few weeks. The lady also tried to reserve a window seat in the back for me, but after a few minutes she said that it wasn't possible yet to assign a seat. "Can you tell me the aircraft type?", I finally asked. "Yes. It's a 7-3-2.", she replied. That was a nice surprise and made my day!  thumbsup 

That's what I saw from our room on the next morning:



This is Garuda Indonesia 737-800 PK-GFN, wearing the scheme used between 1969 and 1985:



Some more Garuda 737s:



Hotel floor and the terminal's road side:


I had pre-ordered a transfer to Terminal 1 in the evening before, so a friendly hotel employee was already waiting for me in the lobby two hours before departure. After a five minute ride, I got off in front of Sriwijaya Air's check-in hall.




Wednesday, November 2011
Jakarta (CGK) - Semarang (SRG)
Sriwijaya Air SJ224
Scheduled times: 08:05-09:05
Actual times: 08:31-09:26
Flight duration: 00:42 (hrs)
Distance: 262 miles
Economy Class (single class), seat 22F

Boeing 737-2B7 Advanced
PK-CJI (s/n 1054), named "Membalong"
First delivered to US Air as N332AU in 11/1984


1st flight on PK-CJI
3rd 737-200 flight
27th 737 Classic flight
61st 737 flight
125th airline



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Former appearances as N288AU and PK-ALV


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The check-in hall was crowded, but I didn't have to wait very long in queue. A friendly Sriwijaya Air agent quickly handed out my boarding pass after she had kindly accepted my request for a seat in the very back:



After paying a departure tax of 40000 Rupiah (= €3,30) and getting my boarding pass stamped at a dedicated counter, I had a light breakfast in a small cafe and finally passed security.

Both Terminal 1 and Terminal 2 were designed to resemble a traditional Javanese house. The airport structures are designed as open pavilions, set within the natural environment, providing shade, shelter, and ventilation. The architect's wish to keep the pavilions and all the circulation spaces beyond the check-in areas completely open to the natural landscape was fully realized in Terminal 1:




The result is that it can become very hot and humid in the open areas, only the waiting rooms themselves are air conditioned. In Terminal 2, windows were installed throughout the pavilions and circulation corridors, separating the interior spaces from the gardens.

My flight was the third one to operate from gate B7 this morning:



Let's go!



A friendly Sriwijaya Air agent checked boarding passes at the entrance and handed out snack boxes. I didn't get one, so I asked her about it. She checked my boarding pass again and said: "There is service on board." So I guess the snack boxes were only handed out to passengers booked on the short hop to Bandar Lampung, just some 120 miles from Jakarta. That's impressive considering that the flying time is probably less than 25 minutes.

Unfortunately, spotting options in the gate area were limited. An inner glass front prevented access to the windows towards the apron - and the sun shade was an additional annoyance:


Well, I was still able to log numerous registrations, so waiting in that area wasn't too bad.

The official boarding time was 7:35, but nothing happened for another 30 minutes. Finally, after I had reinsured that everything was alright with the flight, the agents started the boarding process - exactly 10 minutes after the scheduled departure time. I didn't hear an explanation for the delay at any time.

Anyway, here's the nice little Boeing 737-200 which would fly me to Semarang and Surabaya - it looks fresh and clean, doesn't it?


PK-CJI was built in October 1984 and subsequently delivered to US Air as N332AU. It was re-registered as N288AU four years later and transferred to MetroJet in May 1999. The plane was retired in October 2001 and remained stored until Star Air of Indonesia took it up as PK-ALV in August 2002. Star Air shut down services in June 2005 and the plane went into storage again until Sriwijaya Air added it to its fleet in January 2006. Sriwijaya Air operates a fleet of 14 Boeing 737-200s, 13 Boeing 737-300s and 7 Boeing 737-400s. However, one 737-300 is currently out of service after a landing incident at Jogyakarta in late December.

Young friendly flight attendants in pretty uniforms welcomed me on board with a smile. The cabin was clean and looked as immaculate as the plane's exterior. The bright red old-style seats were alright...



...but legroom was very tight what I found a bit shocking - probably the worst seat pitch I have ever experienced:


Even though I felt very cramped, I didn't mind so much considering that both flights would be short. What was more important was the fact that I had the chance again to enjoy a 737-200 flight.

Nice inflight magazine and nice safety card:



There was also a shopping guide, but I cannot remember seeing the flight attendants offering anything for sale:



As far as I could see, not a single seat remained empty. Two friendly male locals took the seats next to me - actually I didn't see a single stern face in the whole cabin, all people looked relaxed and happy. Try to find that on a morning flight in Europe!

After boarding had been completed, the flight attendants distributed candy - nice!



Parked next to us was 737-400 PK-CJU:



We were finally pushed back 26 minutes late and I thoroughly enjoyed the engine start-up. What a nice blast from the past! Three different "Lions" at once - a 737-400, a regular 737-900ER and a "Dreamliner" 737-900ER:



Our classic 737 rolled straight onto the runway, the two Pratt & Whitney JT8D-15A engines started roaring...



...and we soon lifted off after a powerful takeoff run - what an amazing sound!  thumbsup 



Numerous stored aircraft...





...and a Garuda Indonesia 747-400 and a Garuda Indonesia A330 parked in a hangar:



There was an announcement during climb, but I couldn't understand a single word due to the engine noise. I was really enjoying the ride on this classic bird:



Less than 10 minutes after takeoff, the flight attendants handed out snack boxes. I felt even more cramped after folding down the table:



The nice red box...



..contained a savory croissant, a piece of cake and a cup of water:


Unfortunately, the croissant didn't taste fresh and contained a strange paste, but the cake was fine. I was still impressed by that kind of service on such a short flight.

You cannot miss the registration when flying on Sriwijaya Air:



Beautiful scenery:



We soon started descending...I was really looking forward to the arrival at user Akhmad's hometown airport:





Final approach along large areas of wetlands:









Touchdown happened 42 minutes after takeoff - the reverse thrust sound was awesome!  thumbsup 



I didn't see any of those Wings Air ATR 72s at Jakarta:



PK-CJI stopped at a parking position next to Garuda Indonesia 737-800 PK-GER - user FlyingFinn76 once flew on that frame when it was still operated by Air Berlin as D-ABAD:



All Surabaya-bound passengers were asked to leave the aircraft, too. I chose the rear exit and took the chance to take numerous pictures. Lovely plane, lovely livery:





The plane looked so immaculate - I guess most passengers wouldn't have believed that it was already 27 years old:


After entering the small terminal building, I passed the luggage carousel, but didn't see a sign for transit passengers. I couldn't see a Sriwijaya Air employee either and therefore asked a police officer for the way to the gate area. However, he didn't seem to understand and directed me back towards the apron side of the hall. Finally, I noticed a Sriwijaya Air ground staff member and told him that I was bound for Surabaya. He smiled, checked my boarding pass and quickly opened a door to the gate area for me.




Wednesday, November 2011
Semarang (SRG) - Surabaya (SUB)
Sriwijaya Air SJ224
Scheduled times: 09:40-10:30
Actual times: 09:53-10:38
Flight duration: 00:33 (hrs)
Distance: 168 miles
Economy Class (single class), seat 22F

Boeing 737-2B7 Advanced
PK-CJI (s/n 1054), named "Membalong"
First delivered to US Air as N332AU in 11/1984


2nd flight on PK-CJI
4th 737-200 flight
28th 737 Classic flight
62nd 737 flight



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Boarding commenced only a few minutes after I had arrived in the gate area. I had lined up immediately so that I would be the first passenger on the apron. A friendly agent checked my boarding pass, I gladly accepted a snack bag and returned to the good old 737-200.



Marvelous engine, enhanced by a nice Sriwijaya-style design:



Very classy tail logo:



Can you see any dirt spots or a single scratch anywhere?



Spotless classic cabin:


I took my seat 22F again and was looking forward to another ride on this great bird.

Bandar Udara Internasional Achmad Yani Semarang - this picture is dedicated to Akhmad:



While boarding was continuing, I had a closer look at the pretty snack bag...



...which contained a (very sweet) chocolate-filled roll and a cup of water:



The cabin was packed again and my impression was that most passengers were new ones - I must have been one of few transit passengers. PK-CJI left the parking position again exactly 27 minutes after arrival:



Indonesian Air Force helicopters:



After entering runway 13, PK-CJI started another powerful and noisy takeoff roll:



Goodbye, Semarang - maybe I'll stay a bit longer next time:













Once again I enjoyed the beautiful scenery - and of course I enjoyed listening to the engine sound:



Descent commenced only some 20 minutes after takeoff:







Large industrial facilities:







Very interesting collection of parked and stored planes - many of them will never fly again:





We touched down after a flying time of 33 minutes and I could enjoy listening to the reverse thrust sound one more time. Two Garuda 737-800s and a Citilink 737-300 in new colors:



Sriwijaya Air 737-300 and one of the two Lion Air "Dreamliners" again - my chance to get one of them was even lower now:



I was glad that no jet bridges were used, so I could take some more pictures of the plane:





Goodbye, "Membalong", it was a pleasure!



PK-YUZ is Batavia Air's sole 737-500:



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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:52 pm


Wednesday, November 2011
Surabaya (SUB) - Jakarta (CGK)
Lion Air JT575
Scheduled times: 13:10-14:35
Actual times: 13:41-15:11
Flight duration: 01:13 (hrs)
Distance: 430 miles
Economy Class (single class), seat 30A

Boeing 737-96NER
PK-LGI (s/n 2596)
First delivered to XL Airways as G-XLAP in 05/2008


1st flight on PK-LGI
2nd 737-900ER flight
35th 737NG flight
63rd 737 flight
126th airline



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During trip planning, I hadn't been sure whether I should take a Lion Air flight due to safety concerns. However, I had been told by knowledgeable A.net users that it would be fine to fly on the carrier's Boeing 737-900ERs. Unlike Sriwijaya Air, Lion Air showed the aircraft type during the booking process, but when I tried to purchase my ticket, neither my MasterCard nor my Visa Card was accepted. So I had to switch to www.ticketindonesia.info where I was able to book the desired flight without any problem. Reserving a seat hadn't been possible, though.

Back to Surabaya. After stepping into the terminal building, I immediately went to the check-in hall. There were numerous Lion Air counters, but it wasn't possible yet to check in for my particular flight. Finally, two hours before departure, a friendly Lion Air agent welcomed me at a dedicated counter. I had been told before the trip that foreigners are often offered an exit row and that's exactly what the lady did. However, I declined and asked for a seat further back. I got 30A which is located just in front of the 737-900ER's additional door as I would find out later - not exactly what I had been hoping for, but it wasn't a big issue.

After paying the departure tax, I passed security and went to the gate area. Check-in hall from above:



I had lunch at Starbucks and spent some time on spotting before I went to my gate which was totally crowded. Of course I had been hoping for a special scheme, but the chance had always been very low. My plane - wearing regular colors - arrived slightly delayed some 20 minutes before the schedule departure time:



While it looked like most of its sister ships, PK-LGI belonged to a small number of frames which hadn't been delivered factory fresh to Lion Air:


The plane started its career with XL Airways as G-XLAP in August 2008. After the carrier had ceased operations in September 2008, the plane remained stored for a few months before joining Lion Air in December 2008. Later at home, I would find out that PK-LGI was retired only six days after my flight. All four used frames have meanwhile left the fleet. While the two ex-XL Airways planes are still stored, two ex-Futura birds are now operated by JetLite of India. Lion Air's 737-900ER fleet currently consists of 59 planes, another 136 (!) frames are on order (along with 12 737-800s and 201 737 MAX 9s)

Boarding finally started five minutes behind the scheduled departure time. Friendly female flight attendants in nice dresses welcomed me on board which was a good start. However, the cabin looked worn and wasn't as clean as the counterpart on Sriwijaya Air. The leather seats were okay...





...but legroom was almost as bad as on Sriwijaya Air:



The seat pocket neither contained an inflight magazine nor a safety card. I didn't notice safety instructions anywhere else which was very irritating. All I could find was a so-called invocation card...



...containing prayers for Muslims and Christians:


I can only hope that Lion Air hasn't decided to entirely replace safety cards by invocation cards...

The boarding process was very slow, passengers were permanently blocking the aisle while searching for storage space. It was quite warm in the cabin, so I wasn't amused about the growing departure delay. After boarding had been completed, the cabin seemed to be full - it's interesting to note that Lion Air's single-class 737-900ERs are equipped with 213 seats. The two seats next to me had been taken by a nice mid-aged couple.

Parked next to us was sister ship PK-LGW:


We left the gate 31 minutes late and neither the flight crew nor the purser delivered an explanation at any time.

In the background you can see some Lion Air and Wings Air MD-80s - while the former has retired its Mad Dogs, the latter still operates seven frames:



Almost ready for takeoff - note how dirty that wing is compared to the one on Sriwijaya's 737-200:



PK-LGI lifted off after a powerful takeoff roll:





Large areas of wetlands can be found between SUB and the sea:





Wide left turn:





While we were still climbing, the purser or another flight attendant made an announcement, but it was hard to understand. I learned that we would fly at a cruising altitude of 36000 feet, the flying time would be one hour and ??? minutes. The announcement also contained the term "sale", but the flight attendants didn't offer anything during the whole flight. They quickly passed with a trolley once, but I didn't see them selling anything. So Lion Air neither served anything for free nor offered anything for sale on this 73 minute flight - very odd!

I wasn't impressed at all by that flight - but at least the Lion Air winglets were nice:





These headrest covers look rather cheap:



Approach over dozens of ships...







...and through thick and dark clouds...







This looks much better again:







We touched down after a flying time of 1 hour and 13 minutes...



...and taxied to a remote parking position next to this 737-400:



A red and a white winged lion:


Before we had reached the final parking position, heavy - and I mean really heavy - rain set in. Within a few minutes, the whole apron was under water. Deboarding took a while because only the front door was used. The busses stopped very close to the roofed stairs - these guys really made sure that nobody got wet!

Nasty weather...


After a five minute ride, I went straight to the departure hall, left the building and met Satchmo at an observation deck area near the Sriwijaya Air concourse.



Jakarta Spotting & A.net Meeting
There are large and easily accessible observation deck areas on the Terminal 1 and Terminal 2 buildings. They are great for registration spotters as well as for photographers. Right in the middle you can see my Lion Air 737-900ER again:



The observation decks don't look pretty...



...but the traffic at Jakarta is all the better. Satchmo had taken many nice pictures in the course of the day. Here's Mihin Lanka's sole A321-200 4R-MRC, once flying for GB Airways and easyJet as G-TTIF:

Picture by Satchmo


Garuda Indonesia PK-GFN in retro colors - one of 52 737-800s in the fleet:

Picture by Satchmo


PK-LFF, Lion Air's first 737-900ER, is still wearing the Boeing Dreamliner scheme:

Picture by Satchmo


And this is PK-LHY, Lion Air's 50th 737-900ER, as it also says on the special tail:

Picture by Satchmo


PK-YVJ is one of two A330-200s in the Batavia Air fleet - it used to fly for Canada 3000, Volare Airlines, Air Madrid and Air Comet:

Picture by Satchmo


The best comes last: PK-CJD is another immaculate looking Sriwijaya Air 737-200:

Picture by Satchmo

PK-CJD used to fly for Britannia, Midway Express, Transmed Airlines, Ryanair and Teebah Airlines. User LXM83 may still remember his ride on the bird when it was operating for Ryanair as EI-CJH.

Shortly before sunset, we returned to the hotel in order to get ready for the meeting with legendary A.net user Lufthansa747 who was a source of inspiration for my trip reports many years ago. After his arrival on Turkish Airlines flight TK066 from Singapore and Istanbul, we went straight to our hotel where we had dinner and a few drinks. Later in the evening, we were joined by one of Lufthansa747's friends who has worked for various airlines. We talked about our beloved hobby for several hours, it was a great get-together. I can only recommend to meet Lufthansa747 - that guy has much to tell. Story to be continued...



Conclusion
Seating comfort was bad, while crews and staff members were nice and friendly on both airlines. However, the 27 year old Sriwijaya Air 737-200 was in immaculate condition inside and outside, while the 3 year old Lion Air 737-900ER was quite worn out. Even though Sriwijaya Air didn't offer culinary delights, it's very impressive to get snacks on such short hops. In contrast, Lion Air neither offered anything free of charge nor offered anything for sale on a much longer flight. I have no desire to experience Lion Air's super low cost product again, but I would definitely choose Sriwijaya Air again. "Your flying partner" is the slogan of that fine airline - is it my flying partner? Yes, absolutely!


Best Regards,
PlaneHunter



P.S.: Just in case you missed them - my previous trip reports:
Widebody Hopping & KUL Spotting: SIA A330, KLM 77W
QF A380 Grounded, Bags Lost - LHR-SIN, TK A330/340
Type Downgrade, Class Upgrade: EgyptAir Business
Long-Haul Cabin On A 737: MUC-CAI On PrivatAir
1 Day, 2 Highlights: Big A.net Meeting & LAN A340
Imperfect Giant: CPT-JNB-FRA On SA A332 & LH A380
BA Vs. LCC, African Way: JNB-DUR-CPT, Comair/Mango
Africa's Best Airline? FRA-JNB On SAA A340-600
Fuel Dump & Return To CDG: Enroute To LAX On 9/11
Greek Quality: Aegean, Olympic & Istanbul Spotting
Exploring A Virgin: VS A343/A346 & Dubai Delights
Superb Stübli & Crew: LAS-LAX-ZRH-MUC, LX J Class
Grand Canyon & More: Scenic Flight On Dornier 228
San Francisco Sunshine...and A Frontier Fiasco
Fully Flat Bed to SFO: SWISS' New Business Class
Mountains, Meals & More: SunExpress Vs. Pegasus
Crossing Two Oceans: AKL-SFO-MUC, NZ 777 & LH A346
Bad Weather & Other Bad Luck: Touring New Zealand
Trans-Tasman Treat: Aerolineas Argentinas A340-200
Detours To Sydney: Wildlife, Tiger, REX & QFLink
Thai Fails To Impress: MUC-BKK-BNE On 744 & 777
Painful Delay & My 100th Airline: AF A380, VO F100
Fifth Freedom Tidbit: Kuwait Airways A300-600
Ship Vs. Plane: Porto Santo Line & Sata Air Açores
Awesome Approach, Splendid Scenery: LIS, FNC & TAP
Guernsey, Ash Cloud Alarm & Mostly Empty SQ 77Ws
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The Dead Slow Transfer: PEK-MUC On Air China A332
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A380 Cacophony, 777 Star Livery: DXB-SIN-HKG on SQ
The Next 5* Carrier? MUC-MCT-DXB, Oman Air A330
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My Trip To Hell: NUE-CPH-OSL-TRD On Cimber & SAS
SFO-YUL-FRA: Map- & Sleepless On Air Canada's 77W
Sin City Gloss & Virgin America's Chic First Class
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Goodbye, Red Tails! DC-9-40/50 & Chicago Tour
Champagne & World Of Coke: Air France A340 To ATL
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A380 Really a Step Forward? LHR-DXB-DOH On EK
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Mad Dog, A320 Tech Delay & Best Of Lanzarote
Canaries Prop-Hopping: Islas Airways & Naysa
Canaries And Confusion: LH CRJ900 & Spanair A321
Hubbing For 162 Miles: HOQ-FRA-STR Ret On IQ/EW/LH
BOS-JFK-AMS-MUC: SSSS-Check And KLM 777
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2 Hours In Paradise: Hamilton Island (JQ/DJ)
BNE-SYD-BNE: Domestic Run On QF’s Oldest B747-400
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Going Down Under: MUC-DXB-SYD On EK A332 & A345
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Transatlantic For A Weekend (1): MUC-DCA On US


[Edited 2012-03-07 11:23:17]
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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:27 pm

Hi PH,

what a striking TR.
One of my all time favorites.
The Sriwijaya 732 looked stunning and for sure worth the whole trip. The service also looks fine, you wouldn't find such a snack box on a similar flight within Europe.
Lion Air disappointed me, they seem to be even worser than the LCCs over here.

Also very interesting to see a lot of the nature of Indonesia, mainly during the decent to Suryo's hometown.

Thanks a lot for sharing this fascinating evening read.
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:34 pm

Quoting Luxair747SP (Reply 2):
what a striking TR.
One of my all time favorites.

Servus Johannes, thanks so much for your nice comments! I'm glad you liked it.

Quoting Luxair747SP (Reply 2):
The Sriwijaya 732 looked stunning and for sure worth the whole trip.

Absolutely!

Quoting Luxair747SP (Reply 2):
The service also looks fine, you wouldn't find such a snack box on a similar flight within Europe.

Yes, I was very surprised about SJ's service.

Quoting Luxair747SP (Reply 2):
Lion Air disappointed me, they seem to be even worser than the LCCs over here.

I can only agree. Super low cost, no thanks.   

Quoting Luxair747SP (Reply 2):
Also very interesting to see a lot of the nature of Indonesia, mainly during the decent to Suryo's hometown.

I enjoyed that, too.

Quoting Luxair747SP (Reply 2):
Thanks a lot for sharing this fascinating evening read.

Thanks again!


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Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:40 pm

Hi PH,

Lovely, once again. Indonesia looks like a nice country, although LCCs seem to have a service standard that is worse than Ryanair.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Both Terminal 1 and Terminal 2 were designed to resemble a traditional Javanese house. The airport structures are designed as open pavilions, set within the natural environment, providing shade, shelter, and ventilation. The architect's wish to keep the pavilions and all the circulation spaces beyond the check-in areas completely open to the natural landscape was fully realized in Terminal 1:

Now I wonder how they do security over there...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Well, I was still able to log numerous registrations, so waiting in that area wasn't too bad.

All an enthusiast needs, a view on planes...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Anyway, here's the nice little Boeing 737-200 which would fly me to Semarang and Surabaya - it looks fresh and clean, doesn't it?

It looks great for a 30 (almost) year old airplane.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Even though I felt very cramped, I didn't mind so much considering that both flights would be short. What was more important was the fact that I had the chance again to enjoy a 737-200 flight.

This is where the enthusiast in a person comes out.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Lovely plane, lovely livery:
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Sriwijaya-style design

Definitely! I must say that the engine somewhat reminds of Delta's widget scheme.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
After paying the departure tax

Why don't they just include that in the ticket price?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
737-900ER

I still find it hard to believe that boeing sees this as a 757 replacement. It doesn't do justice to the 757, the A321 is more like it (although still a bit too small), in my opinion.

Thanks for the great read, what's next (and when  )?

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Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:49 pm

HI Udo.

Nicely put together report for your jaunt through Indonesia. It is a country that fascinates me, is brimming with potential etc. so good to see your landscapes...

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
all people looked relaxed and happy. Try to find that on a morning flight in Europe!

Perhaps it was the airy walk through the terminal instead of the mall experience of the west.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
user FlyingFinn76 once flew on that frame when it was still operated by Air Berlin as D-ABAD:

By god, you must have an encyclopaedic memory!

Gives me a little more faith in Indonesian aviation Sriwijaya take such great care of their aircraft. Hopefully the countries airlines are past that serious blot in their copybook.

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Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:53 pm

Hi PH

great report, thanks Satchmo for the wonderful spotting pictures!

Congrats on the 737-200... wonderful flying machines. I catched quite a few of those on FR in European skies, but would love to fly this in Indonesia. 2013, me says   Something to keep in mind!

The prepacked carton snackboxes seems the norm in Indonesia, on these carriers (except GA probably, judging from my flight on them).

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Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:01 pm

Quoting nipoel123 (Reply 4):
Lovely, once again.

Hi Nick, many thanks for your feedback!

Quoting nipoel123 (Reply 4):
Now I wonder how they do security over there...

The structures with gardens are located behind the "regular" parts of the terminals.

Quoting nipoel123 (Reply 4):
All an enthusiast needs, a view on planes...

  

Quoting nipoel123 (Reply 4):
This is where the enthusiast in a person comes out.

  

Quoting nipoel123 (Reply 4):
Definitely! I must say that the engine somewhat reminds of Delta's widget scheme.

Yes, you are right!

Quoting nipoel123 (Reply 4):
Why don't they just include that in the ticket price?

Very good question, would be so much easier.

Quoting nipoel123 (Reply 4):
I still find it hard to believe that boeing sees this as a 757 replacement. It doesn't do justice to the 757, the A321 is more like it (although still a bit too small), in my opinion.

It depends on the mission. The 739ER cannot replace the 757 on transatlantic services.

Quoting nipoel123 (Reply 4):
Thanks for the great read, what's next (and when )?

I'll start working on part IV soon, but I won't be able to post it before my next Asia mission. The next part will be about three different carriers - three new ones for me on one day.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 5):
Nicely put together report for your jaunt through Indonesia.

Thanks for replying, Luke!

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 5):
Perhaps it was the airy walk through the terminal instead of the mall experience of the west.

Probably - but I didn't enjoy that heat in early morning!  

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 5):
By god, you must have an encyclopaedic memory!

Well, it wasn't my memory...there are some useful websites (airfleets, flightmemory etc).

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 5):
Gives me a little more faith in Indonesian aviation Sriwijaya take such great care of their aircraft.

Sriwijaya Air seems to take special care of its aircraft. All the other SJ planes looked immaculate as well.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 5):
Hopefully the countries airlines are past that serious blot in their copybook.

Well, there are still a few dubious carriers.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 6):
great report, thanks Satchmo for the wonderful spotting pictures!

Hi Eric, thanks for your comments!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 6):
Congrats on the 737-200... wonderful flying machines. I catched quite a few of those on FR in European skies, but would love to fly this in Indonesia. 2013, me says

I had my first 732 flight on FR - after missing it at the first attempt. Yes, try to get one of these beasts next year.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 6):
The prepacked carton snackboxes seems the norm in Indonesia, on these carriers (except GA probably, judging from my flight on them).

Let's not forget our super LCC Lion Air...


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Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:17 pm

Thanks Planehunter for posting this just before my Indonesia trip! Did you have any issues taking photos in airports, or was it ok?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I had already flown on the 737-200 twice and my main goal was getting a new airline, so it wasn't a big issue. Knowing the type in advance would have still been nice, nevertheless.

Same for me, I just want to tick off a new new airlines

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Btw - after I had finished the booking process, I read a note that Sriwijaya Air would contact me by phone for verification. Lufthansa747 told me that the airline had never contacted him but it really did in my case. A friendly lady called me a few days after booking and asked a few questions - I had never experienced anything similar before.

Someone called me the day after I bought my SJ ticket - she spoke excellent English, and everything was completed very quickly

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Both Terminal 1 and Terminal 2 were designed to resemble a traditional Javanese house. The airport structures are designed as open pavilions, set within the natural environment, providing shade, shelter, and ventilation. The architect's wish to keep the pavilions and all the circulation spaces beyond the check-in areas completely open to the natural landscape was fully realized in Terminal 1:

Looks quite nice

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Very interesting collection of parked and stored planes - many of them will never fly again:

Wow, that's a big graveyard

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Unlike Sriwijaya Air, Lion Air showed the aircraft type during the booking process, but when I tried to purchase my ticket, neither my MasterCard nor my Visa Card was accepted. So I had to switch to www.ticketindonesia.info where I was able to book the desired flight without any problem. Reserving a seat hadn't been possible, though.

I didn't have any issues on the Lionair website - meyabe they've updated it recently

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I had been told before the trip that foreigners are often offered an exit row and that's exactly what the lady did.

That's what I'm hiopinh got. My SJ flight is 4 hours long, so an exit would be lovely

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
However, the cabin looked worn and wasn't as clean as the counterpart on Sriwijaya Air. The leather seats were okay...

Those red headrests, as you mentioned, make it loks really cheap and tacky, kind of like a Chinese bus
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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:27 pm

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 8):
Thanks Planehunter for posting this just before my Indonesia trip!

Hi Gabriel, thanks for commenting!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 8):
Did you have any issues taking photos in airports, or was it ok?

No, you can take pictures as much as you want, nobody cares.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 8):
Someone called me the day after I bought my SJ ticket - she spoke excellent English, and everything was completed very quickly

Exactly the same as in my case - well done, SJ!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 8):
Wow, that's a big graveyard

  

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 8):
I didn't have any issues on the Lionair website - meyabe they've updated it recently

Probably, yes.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 8):
That's what I'm hiopinh got. My SJ flight is 4 hours long, so an exit would be lovely

Make sure to check in early. Btw - I just read that SJ offers hot meals on certain international flights. Maybe you also get one on that long domestic flight.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 8):
Those red headrests, as you mentioned, make it loks really cheap and tacky, kind of like a Chinese bus

Yes, I can only agree.


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Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:29 pm

Guten Abend PlaneHunter ,

It has been great for me reading this part of your TR series . I am impressed that snack boxes are handed out on the short flights . When I fly within Germany I often get a granola bar . You sure know how to arrange something special . You are a good example for that .

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
the meeting with legendary A.net user Lufthansa747

I still remember his Trip Reports . Will he be writing TR´s anytime soon again ?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Satchmo had taken many nice pictures in the course of the day

His pictures are very nice . I should go and meet him for spotting one day . Maybe in MUC   ?


Thank you for this part of the TR series . Keep up the good work .

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Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:34 pm

Quoting LH4532 (Reply 10):
Guten Abend PlaneHunter ,

It has been great for me reading this part of your TR series .

Servus Daniel, thanks a lot for your comments!

Quoting LH4532 (Reply 10):
I am impressed that snack boxes are handed out on the short flights .

Yes, they take care of their customers.

Quoting LH4532 (Reply 10):
. You sure know how to arrange something special . You are a good example for that .

I'll always do my very best - some interesting itineraries to follow within the next few months.

Quoting LH4532 (Reply 10):
I still remember his Trip Reports . Will he be writing TR´s anytime soon again ?

I hope so.

Quoting LH4532 (Reply 10):
His pictures are very nice . I should go and meet him for spotting one day . Maybe in MUC ?

I guess MUC is the best place to meet him. Maybe we can arrange a meeting in summer.

Quoting LH4532 (Reply 10):

Thank you for this part of the TR series . Keep up the good work .

Thanks again, Daniel!


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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:14 pm

Hi PH,

very good to see the continuation of your series up so soon, and a very great report once again! Thanks a lot for the little insight into Indonesian aviation. Definitely something different even for the PlaneHunter I guess.

Your account of your 732 flights made me remember and relive some parts of my AeroSur 732 flight last year, thanks for that.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Her English skills were limited, but that wasn't a big problem.

Good to hear, this is not always the case with airlines in less developed countries with mostly domestic operations.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):

After boarding had been completed, the flight attendants distributed candy - nice!

A very nice touch indeed, Sriwijaya really seems to offer a nice product... from the cleanliness to the service.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
what an amazing sound! thumbsup

Oh yes, indeed. I just had a look at my 732 videos again. I'd really like to have another ride on one of those great planes.
 
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:18 pm

Hey, PH,

very nice pictures and a real good way to show us more around you´re Asia trip.
Count me in for the 732, these machine looks like really good.
Strange to hear that an airline called you back after booking,
The 739 is still missing here, but I prefer the 732 anyway.

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Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:46 pm

Hi PlaneHunter!

Thanks for another fantastic report with fantastic pictures !

You were very lucky to catch the 732 again ! Legroom seems really bad though, almost as bad as SK's 736   Good that the flights were short.

Very impressive by the snack bag especially for such short flights.

Personally, I prefer newer 737s for a faster acceleration, especially the 733 and 735 have been awesome to fly in.

Lion Air seems a to be not so great; very scary with the "invocation card". I don't think they'll be flying to Europe anytime soon.

CGK looks like a great airport for spotting and I think I spent a few hours on that observation about 15 years ago. Traffic was very slow back then.

Very much looking forward to the next installment!

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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:53 pm

Guten abend PH
i was waiting this trip report from a long time.
And was all worth of waiting,thanx for sharing.
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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Wed Mar 07, 2012 9:56 pm

Quoting volvair (Reply 12):
very good to see the continuation of your series up so soon, and a very great report once again!

Servus volvair, many thanks for your comments!

Quoting volvair (Reply 12):
Thanks a lot for the little insight into Indonesian aviation. Definitely something different even for the PlaneHunter I guess.

Yes, it was really different. I already visited the country in 1997, but I didn't make a domestic trip back then.

Quoting volvair (Reply 12):
Your account of your 732 flights made me remember and relive some parts of my AeroSur 732 flight last year, thanks for that.

I still remember well your great report!

Quoting volvair (Reply 12):
A very nice touch indeed, Sriwijaya really seems to offer a nice product... from the cleanliness to the service.

And it will also renew the fleet in the near future - two used 738s to be introduced soon, E190s are on order as well.

Quoting volvair (Reply 12):
Oh yes, indeed. I just had a look at my 732 videos again. I'd really like to have another ride on one of those great planes.

Just do it!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 13):
very nice pictures and a real good way to show us more around you´re Asia trip.

Hi Markus, thanks for your feedback!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 13):
Strange to hear that an airline called you back after booking

Yes, I was really surprised when they called me at work.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 13):
The 739 is still missing here, but I prefer the 732 anyway.

Well, it depends on the operator! There are many 732 operators which I wouldn't trust.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 14):
Thanks for another fantastic report with fantastic pictures !

Hi Lars, thanks a lot for your reply!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 14):
You were very lucky to catch the 732 again !

  

Quoting The777Man (Reply 14):
Personally, I prefer newer 737s for a faster acceleration, especially the 733 and 735 have been awesome to fly in.

But what about the sound?  

Quoting The777Man (Reply 14):
Lion Air seems a to be not so great; very scary with the "invocation card". I don't think they'll be flying to Europe anytime soon.

No, I don't think so either. Would be interesting to see a report about a Hadj flight to Saudi Arabia on their 744s.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 14):
CGK looks like a great airport for spotting and I think I spent a few hours on that observation about 15 years ago. Traffic was very slow back then.

CGK is excellent for spotting - traffic keeps growing quickly.

Quoting mxp (Reply 15):
Guten abend PH

Ciao Alberto!

Quoting mxp (Reply 15):
i was waiting this trip report from a long time.
And was all worth of waiting,thanx for sharing.

Thanks for your comments, I'm glad you liked it. So will you visit CGK in June?


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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:51 pm

Hi PH.

Thoroughly amazing read and some very exciting equipment.
The 732 has always been close to my heart as this is the type I used to fly on back in my younger days when taking a holiday with my folks. The start of a fascination with commercial aircraft. We took a few trips on these birds operating for Britannia.

It's great to see this type of equipment (732) being so well looked after. It looks factory fresh and obviously well loved.

I'm glad to see you got a shot with the thrust reverser buckets opened. I can imagine the sound.

Well, Lion looked a bit of an exact opposite. Lacking a profesional image in a few key areas. Anyway, good to see some action from the 739. Nothing in the books for me on this sub type.

As ever, kudos to Satchmo for some great spotting pictures.

Thanks again PH for a great evening read.
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Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:50 pm

Hi PH,
Very nice report once again! Nice to fly the old classic 737-200.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Both Terminal 1 and Terminal 2 were designed to resemble a traditional Javanese house

Looks very cool!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Anyway, here's the nice little Boeing 737-200 which would fly me to Semarang and Surabaya - it looks fresh and clean, doesn't it?

It sure does, inside and outside look very nice!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
...but legroom was very tight what I found a bit shocking - probably the worst seat pitch I have ever experienced:

Looks very tight indeed.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
We soon started descending...I was really looking forward to the arrival at user Akhmad's hometown airport:

Very impressive scenery during approach!

Looking forward to your next part.

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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:28 am

Hi PH,

another great report, and a not-so-visited region. And extra lucky on the 732, very rare nowadays. Sriwijaya are certainly taking good care of them, it could almost be new!

Some good pictures from Jakarta as well. A shame you had no time to visit the city, I'm sure it too is an interesting place, but I guess the lure of extra flights was too much  

Lion Air seem to be a mixed bag, new planes (also rare, 739) but no free service, not even BOB. Did it look like many locals took snacks onboard themselves, as if they knew about this?

And finally, the Jakarta airport hotel has a great corridor, right on the terminal roof! Definitely one for the A.netter!

Thanks again

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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:16 am

Hi PH,

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 7):
I'll start working on part IV soon, but I won't be able to post it before my next Asia mission. The next part will be about three different carriers - three new ones for me on one day.

Don't feel rushed, quality takes time  .

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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:18 am

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 17):
Thoroughly amazing read and some very exciting equipment.
Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 17):
Thanks again PH for a great evening read.

Many thanks for your comments, Lee!

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 17):
The 732 has always been close to my heart as this is the type I used to fly on back in my younger days when taking a holiday with my folks. The start of a fascination with commercial aircraft. We took a few trips on these birds operating for Britannia.

Good old times!

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 17):
It's great to see this type of equipment (732) being so well looked after. It looks factory fresh and obviously well loved.

All other SJ planes looked similar, very impressive.

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 17):
Well, Lion looked a bit of an exact opposite. Lacking a profesional image in a few key areas.

  

Quoting AlwaysOnAPlane (Reply 17):
As ever, kudos to Satchmo for some great spotting pictures.

He'll be happy to hear that.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 18):
Very nice report once again! Nice to fly the old classic 737-200.

Hi Brendan, thanks for your feedback!

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 18):
Very impressive scenery during approach!

Yes, I really liked that unusual approach.

Quoting signol (Reply 19):
another great report, and a not-so-visited region.

Hi signol, thank you for replying!

Quoting signol (Reply 19):
And extra lucky on the 732, very rare nowadays.

  

Quoting signol (Reply 19):
Sriwijaya are certainly taking good care of them, it could almost be new!

Some airlines could learn a lesson!

Quoting signol (Reply 19):
Some good pictures from Jakarta as well. A shame you had no time to visit the city, I'm sure it too is an interesting place

Maybe next time...

Quoting signol (Reply 19):
Lion Air seem to be a mixed bag, new planes (also rare, 739) but no free service, not even BOB. Did it look like many locals took snacks onboard themselves, as if they knew about this?

No, I didn't see one taking snacks on board. JT's no-frills concept is really odd.

Quoting signol (Reply 19):
And finally, the Jakarta airport hotel has a great corridor, right on the terminal roof! Definitely one for the A.netter!

No doubt about that!

Quoting nipoel123 (Reply 20):
Don't feel rushed, quality takes time

Thank you, Nick!


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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:42 pm

Hey Udo a nice report as expected. Thats the best looking 732 I have seen for a long time . I could hear the roar of those engines also .   Something really nice to experience these days in a world of quiet types.

Love the interior of the 732 also really nice . I also like the tropical airport designs really nice .

Thanks for the nice read and photos.

Regards

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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:19 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 22):
Hey Udo a nice report as expected.

Hi Philip, many thanks for commenting!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 22):
Thats the best looking 732 I have seen for a long time .

I can only agree.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 22):
I could hear the roar of those engines also .

Very good!   

Quoting OA260 (Reply 22):
I also like the tropical airport designs really nice.

Yes, it looks nice, but it can easily become uncomfortable for us Europeans.


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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Thu Mar 08, 2012 3:01 pm

Hi PH,

A very nice surprise to see this report popping up! The perfect comparison between old and new, immaculate and worn down (in the order of appearance!). SJ looks good - very impressed by the cleanliness and good condition of that old classic -200 model. I thought SJ was one of the worse Indonesian airlines almost down there with Adam Air but I guess I was wrong. Or maybe they have really picked up their act - the Indonesian domestic market seems to be a very dynamic and fast moving one.

Lion Air on the contrary looks just like Ryanair with a bit larger planes. Not very impressive - apart from the rare plane types of course. Good thing you didn't experience a tail strike on your flights...

That slogan "Your flying partner" is hilarious, BTW.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
A friendly lady called me a few days after booking and asked a few questions - I had never experienced anything similar before.

Maybe not too many Indonesians are that well versed in booking flights online so they want to make sure they got the details right. It is also a way of fighting fraud by double checking that the passenger actually exists and wants to travel.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Young friendly flight attendants in pretty uniforms welcomed me on board with a smile. The cabin was clean and looked as immaculate as the plane's exterior. The bright red old-style seats were alright...

Not sure if I like the red color here. A bit too much in-your-face and offensive.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
...but legroom was very tight what I found a bit shocking - probably the worst seat pitch I have ever experienced:

Hmm it looks very tight indeed. But I guess the seat being cloth helps a bit.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
...and we soon lifted off after a powerful takeoff run - what an amazing sound!   

...which I sadly will probably never get to hear  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Touchdown happened 42 minutes after takeoff - the reverse thrust sound was awesome!   

I betcha! That thrust reverser looks so nice.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
PK-CJI stopped at a parking position next to Garuda Indonesia 737-800 PK-GER - user FlyingFinn76 once flew on that frame when it was still operated by Air Berlin as D-ABAD:

Hey, thanks for the mention. Interesting to see that bird with its new masters on the other side of the world!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Bandar Udara Internasional Achmad Yani Semarang - this picture is dedicated to Akhmad:

I think he is there right now - very appropriate!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Very interesting collection of parked and stored planes - many of them will never fly again:

I guess Indonesia is a bit like Russia (or pretty much all the former Soviet Union countries) - every self respecting airport has a collection of rusting, less or even less airworthy plane hulks.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Lion Air's 737-900ER fleet currently consists of 59 planes, another 136 (!) frames are on order (along with 12 737-800s and 201 737 MAX 9s)

I've been wondering what an earth are they going to do with all those planes? Well at least half of those orders will be canceled anyway, but still. I know Indonesia is a huge market with 200+ million people, but still - there is a lot of competition there even though the most pathetic attempts have already perished. Interesting times ahead I guess.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
...but legroom was almost as bad as on Sriwijaya Air:

Looks typical low cost style with a bad seat design.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I can only hope that Lion Air hasn't decided to entirely replace safety cards by invocation cards...

Hah. This is what you get with religious zealots.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The announcement also contained the term "sale", but the flight attendants didn't offer anything during the whole flight. They quickly passed with a trolley once, but I didn't see them selling anything. So Lion Air neither served anything for free nor offered anything for sale on this 73 minute flight - very odd!

Maybe they said something about the sales not being available due catering problems or whatever?

Anyway quite weird that Lion doesn't serve anything for free - those cardboard snackboxes or bags seem to be the norm in Indonesia judging from the many reports on this board. Surely this puts them at a disadvantage against the competition and they sure have a lot of seats to fill in all those 739s... Are they fares then cheaper than the competition?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
These headrest covers look rather cheap:

What is it with the color red and Indonesian airlines?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Garuda Indonesia PK-GFN in retro colors - one of 52 737-800s in the fleet:

Very nice livery, I like it a lot. BTW kudos to Satchmo for amazing photography (once again).

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Shortly before sunset, we returned to the hotel in order to get ready for the meeting with legendary A.net user Lufthansa747 who was a source of inspiration for my trip reports many years ago.

What do you know - he was also a major source of inspiration for me!
 
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Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:14 pm

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 24):

A very nice surprise to see this report popping up! The perfect comparison between old and new, immaculate and worn down (in the order of appearance!).

Hi P, many thanks for your feedback!   

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 24):
SJ looks good - very impressed by the cleanliness and good condition of that old classic -200 model. I thought SJ was one of the worse Indonesian airlines almost down there with Adam Air but I guess I was wrong.

Oh no, SJ has never had a deadly accident - in contrast to many other existing (and no longer existing) Indonesian carriers. And I have never read any negative reports about SJ.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 24):
Lion Air on the contrary looks just like Ryanair with a bit larger planes. Not very impressive - apart from the rare plane types of course.

No, definitely not. I'm glad to have a flight in my log, that's it.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 24):
Good thing you didn't experience a tail strike on your flights...

Oh yes, I was happy that we didn't land in the middle of the heavy rain storm...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 24):
That slogan "Your flying partner" is hilarious, BTW.

Simply fantastic slogan!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 24):
Maybe not too many Indonesians are that well versed in booking flights online so they want to make sure they got the details right. It is also a way of fighting fraud by double checking that the passenger actually exists and wants to travel.

Good points!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 24):
...which I sadly will probably never get to hear

Who knows? I had been thinking the same. There are still many active frames. The number of trustworthy operators is limited, though - and it keeps shrinking.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 24):
Hey, thanks for the mention.

You're welcome!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 24):
Interesting to see that bird with its new masters on the other side of the world!

It's fascinating to see how certain planes change owners.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 24):
I think he is there right now - very appropriate!

Yes, he is. Perfect timing!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 24):
I guess Indonesia is a bit like Russia (or pretty much all the former Soviet Union countries) - every self respecting airport has a collection of rusting, less or even less airworthy plane hulks.

  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 24):
I've been wondering what an earth are they going to do with all those planes? Well at least half of those orders will be canceled anyway, but still. I know Indonesia is a huge market with 200+ million people, but still - there is a lot of competition there even though the most pathetic attempts have already perished. Interesting times ahead I guess.

Good point. We discussed that with Lufthansa747 and his friend who knows a lot about Indonesian aviation. JT may soon be in serious trouble to find parking spaces for its fast growing fleet.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 24):
Maybe they said something about the sales not being available due catering problems or whatever?

Probably, yes. Would be very odd, nevertheless - SUB-CGK is a trunk route.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 24):
Surely this puts them at a disadvantage against the competition and they sure have a lot of seats to fill in all those 739s... Are they fares then cheaper than the competition?

They certainly offer low fares in general.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 24):
What is it with the color red and Indonesian airlines?

The flag's red and white - maybe a reason?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 24):
BTW kudos to Satchmo for amazing photography (once again).

He'll be happy to hear that.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 24):
What do you know - he was also a major source of inspiration for me!

Very nice!


PH

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Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:11 am

Hi PH,

Great 3rd installment in this series. We don't usually get too many reports about Indonesian carriers so this report especially piqued my interest.

Sriwijaya Air don't look too bad but I'm not impressed by the legroom. At least you got offered some snacks & I'm sure the fact that you were on 732 made it up.

Lion Air got you from A to B which is about all you can expect from them. I'm surprised that they didn't offer anything for sale considering they are an ULCC.

BTW great spotting pics by Satchmo. There isn't a shortage of interesting carriers & types at CGK.

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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:13 am

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 26):
Great 3rd installment in this series. We don't usually get too many reports about Indonesian carriers so this report especially piqued my interest.

Hi aflyingkiwi, thanks for your comments!

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 26):
Sriwijaya Air don't look too bad but I'm not impressed by the legroom. At least you got offered some snacks & I'm sure the fact that you were on 732 made it up.

SJ was fine except for the legroom. I'm wondering if that's standard on the carrier.

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 26):
Lion Air got you from A to B which is about all you can expect from them. I'm surprised that they didn't offer anything for sale considering they are an ULCC.

Lion Air is like Ryanair, offering a flying bus service.

Quoting aflyingkiwi (Reply 26):
BTW great spotting pics by Satchmo. There isn't a shortage of interesting carriers & types at CGK.

The variety of airlines/aircraft at CGK is excellent.


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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:50 am

Hi PH, thanks for sharing. Great job getting another 732, and interesting to read that Sriwijaya Air has a bunch of them left! The 739 doesn't look too bad but I too would be hesitant to fly on Lion Air..

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Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:44 pm

Finally catching up with your fantastic series here! Haven't followed the forum lately due to my own issues here...

Sriwijaya is a great little airline, I have flown on their 1974-delivered 732 and it was in the same excellent shape as well. The legroom is bad as I believe they just arranged ancient style seats so that all aircraft in the fleet have the same number of seats. Their F/As are great as well.

Lion is a flying bus, did they not even hand you a cup of water anymore? That used to be standard. Thank your lucky stars you were not on their MD81 with "Fly is cheap" painted on the fuselage, overflowing toilet inside. Compared to that, the 739s are a great improvement.

It was great meeting you guys, looking forward to do it again! But You and P. are giving me way too much credit...

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Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:10 pm

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 28):
Hi PH, thanks for sharing. Great job getting another 732,

Hi Martijn, thanks for replying!

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 28):
interesting to read that Sriwijaya Air has a bunch of them left!

It's currently the largest 732 operator.

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 28):
The 739 doesn't look too bad but I too would be hesitant to fly on Lion Air..

There are better options to get the 739!

Quoting lufthansa747 (Reply 29):
Finally catching up with your fantastic series here!

Hi Lari, thanks a lot for your comments! Good to see you here again.

Quoting lufthansa747 (Reply 29):
Sriwijaya is a great little airline, I have flown on their 1974-delivered 732 and it was in the same excellent shape as well.

Very good to hear!

Quoting lufthansa747 (Reply 29):
Lion is a flying bus, did they not even hand you a cup of water anymore?

No, nothing.

Quoting lufthansa747 (Reply 29):
Thank your lucky stars you were not on their MD81 with "Fly is cheap" painted on the fuselage, overflowing toilet inside. Compared to that, the 739s are a great improvement.

No, I had never had a desire to fly anything else but their 739.

Quoting lufthansa747 (Reply 29):
It was great meeting you guys, looking forward to do it again!

Yes, would be great!

Quoting lufthansa747 (Reply 29):
But You and P. are giving me way too much credit...

You deserve it.


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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:24 pm

Hi PH, great report! I've been going through your older reports recently while waiting for this one and only have 5 left. All of them are great!

On my trip RTW later this month, I'm flying LIM-CUZ-LIM. I was trying to book a flight on Peruvian that uses 732s to Cuzco but unfortunately I couldn't complete the booking. Had to book a "boring" TACA roundtrip instead. I have a MetroJet 732 flight from 1998 in my log but I was 6 months old back then so I don't remember much.  

I'm going to Indonesia too but will fly to DPS, not CGK and SUB. Will come in on either CX 744 or GA 738 and leave to SIN on either the KL 77W flt or QR 77L.  

SUB is actually a pretty big place in Icelandic aviation history, surprisingly. In 1978, LL 1, a Loftleidir Haji charter from Jeddah to Surabaya via Colombo crashed on final in CMB because the ILS didn't work at the airport and located the runway 3 miles souther than it actually was. 183 died and only 79 survived. Of the 13 people in the Icelandic crew, 8 passed away. My grandfathers brother was working as an mechanic in CMB for Loftleidir because of the charters and was watching it land in the fog when he saw a fire in the forest around the runway. Very sad story. The Indonesian Aviation Authority blamed it on 'pilot error' but it was later proved that the ILS hadn't been OK.

Nice report!

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Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:48 pm

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 31):
Hi PH, great report! I've been going through your older reports recently while waiting for this one and only have 5 left. All of them are great!

Hi Sveinn, thank you very much for your nice comments! I'm glad you enjoyed reading my reports!

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 31):
On my trip RTW later this month, I'm flying LIM-CUZ-LIM. I was trying to book a flight on Peruvian that uses 732s to Cuzco but unfortunately I couldn't complete the booking. Had to book a "boring" TACA roundtrip instead.

Oh, that's bad. Sometimes it can be really tricky to book flights on airline websites. Will you write a report about your TACA trip?

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 31):
I have a MetroJet 732 flight from 1998 in my log but I was 6 months old back then so I don't remember much.

At least you have been on one!

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 31):
I'm going to Indonesia too but will fly to DPS, not CGK and SUB. Will come in on either CX 744 or GA 738 and leave to SIN on either the KL 77W flt or QR 77L.

Do you consider taking the KL 77W all the way to Europe? It's not really the most comfortable plane out there. Do you have time for a domestic day trip from DPS?

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 31):
SUB is actually a pretty big place in Icelandic aviation history, surprisingly. In 1978, LL 1, a Loftleidir Haji charter from Jeddah to Surabaya via Colombo crashed on final in CMB because the ILS didn't work at the airport and located the runway 3 miles souther than it actually was. 183 died and only 79 survived. Of the 13 people in the Icelandic crew, 8 passed away. My grandfathers brother was working as an mechanic in CMB for Loftleidir because of the charters and was watching it land in the fog when he saw a fire in the forest around the runway. Very sad story. The Indonesian Aviation Authority blamed it on 'pilot error' but it was later proved that the ILS hadn't been OK.

That's indeed a very sad story. I had never heard about that before.


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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:55 pm

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 32):
Oh, that's bad. Sometimes it can be really tricky to book flights on airline websites. Will you write a report about your TACA trip?

Yeah, it can be pretty hard. I'm planning on writing a rpeort about the whole trip.  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 32):
At least you have been on one!

That's true!  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 32):
Do you consider taking the KL 77W all the way to Europe? It's not really the most comfortable plane out there. Do you have time for a domestic day trip from DPS?

No, from SIN I'll head on to BKK, then DEL, then BOM, then DXB before going home on the EK 380. Unfortunately my stay in Bali will only be around 2 days, so I think me and my dad will just rest there. The whole plan can be found in 'Your 2011/12 booked flights' thread in Travel Polls & Prefs.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 32):
That's indeed a very sad story. I had never heard about that before.

No it's not well known. It was the 4th biggest accident ever at that time, so it's surprising that it's nearly forgotten.
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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:59 pm

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 33):
I'm planning on writing a rpeort about the whole trip.

Very good!

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 33):
No, from SIN I'll head on to BKK, then DEL, then BOM, then DXB before going home on the EK 380.

Sounds very interesting! Have fun!

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 33):
Unfortunately my stay in Bali will only be around 2 days, so I think me and my dad will just rest there.

Okay, sometimes even enthusiasts need to rest.  


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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:04 pm

Hi PH,

good to follow your Indonesion tour, an excellent read again. Quite impressed by the service from Sriwijaya, definitely a nice airline. And congrats of logging one of the classic 737-200, for sure a great airplane. I really like how the engines are mounted under the wing and the deployment of the thrust reversers.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The architect's wish to keep the pavilions and all the circulation spaces beyond the check-in areas completely open to the natural landscape was fully realized in Terminal 1

Wow, that looks great, doesn't feel like an airport at all.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I can only hope that Lion Air hasn't decided to entirely replace safety cards by invocation cards...

Hmm, did they even do a safety briefing? Or do they completely rely on the help from divine beings for their safety on board?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
PK-CJD is another immaculate looking Sriwijaya Air 737-200:

What a beauty  

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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Sat Mar 10, 2012 9:04 pm

Hello PlaneHunter,

A very nice next part of your Indonesian flying adventures! Greats pics and story all the way. The contrast in aircraft couldn't big bigger here and as you say, those Sriwiwiijaja's B732's look and feel excellent! That makes me remember my sole B732 flight I had some 7 years ago, on Aerocontinente from CUZ to LIM. That was one amazing experience as well with probably the longest takeoff roll I have ever experienced.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
This is Garuda Indonesia 737-800 PK-GFN, wearing the scheme used between 1969 and 1985:

That's one cool looking retrojet. And a good catch on film afterwards by Satchmo as well.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
After paying a departure tax of 40000 Rupiah (= €3,30)

What a laugh    The amount in local currency is for sure quite exorbitant  

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The bright red old-style seats were alright...

I think it looks really good and it appears well maintained as well.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
.I was really looking forward to the arrival at user Akhmad's hometown airport:

Oh, that's cool, I didin't know that.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I guess most passengers wouldn't have believed that it was already 27 years old:

And most probably, they wouldn't have bothered either  

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Lion Air's 737-900ER fleet currently consists of 59 planes, another 136 (!) frames are on order

Quite impressive. That'll make Lion Air the n°1 B739 operator, no?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I can only hope that Lion Air hasn't decided to entirely replace safety cards by invocation cards...

I sure hope it's no allusion to their not-so-good safety reputation? Did you say your prayer lol?

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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:37 am

Great report PH!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
That's what I saw from our room on the next morning

- Now that is my kind of hotel room view!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The plane looked so immaculate - I guess most passengers wouldn't have believed that it was already 27 years old

- Actually quite young for a 737-200, she sure looks well maintained.

Of the two carriers Sriwijaya looks the better carrier, the planes, though older, look in better shape and you get service on board too!

Thanks for the pictures of the viewing deck, I'm really hoping to get out there either in November or early next year, some serious spotting to be done!

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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Sun Mar 11, 2012 1:56 pm

Hi PH,

So many nice unusual reports on the forum at the moment, this being one of them. Congrats on scoring the 732.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
A friendly Sriwijaya Air agent quickly handed out my boarding pass after she had kindly accepted my request for a seat in the very back:

Love the old style boarding pass.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Both Terminal 1 and Terminal 2 were designed to resemble a traditional Javanese house. The airport structures are designed as open pavilions, set within the natural environment, providing shade, shelter, and ventilation.

Simply beautiful!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
but legroom was very tight what I found a bit shocking - probably the worst seat pitch I have ever experienced

That does look awful, worse than easyJet!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
There was an announcement during climb, but I couldn't understand a single word due to the engine noise. I was really enjoying the ride on this classic bird:

I’m sure it was a great experience. Just look at the "vintage" wing & engine, such a refreshing change

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I had a closer look at the pretty snack bag

Hope you brought that home as a sounvenir….

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The seat pocket neither contained an inflight magazine nor a safety card. I didn't notice safety instructions anywhere else which was very irritating. All I could find was a so-called invocation card...
Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
...containing prayers for Muslims and Christians:

So now we know why there was no safety card. I find that very unsettling and think I’d have felt rather ill at ease on board. Glad you had a safe flight.

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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:00 pm

Hello PlaneHunter

Great report, always a pleasure to read about something different.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
"Yes. It's a 7-3-2.", she replied. That was a nice surprise and made my day!

I'm sure about that! The 732 is an amazing aircraft, I simply love the thrust reversers. That's a good reason to sit somewhere in the back in order to catch a picture of it when it deploys.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Very interesting collection of parked and stored planes - many of them will never fly again:

Amazing, that's a huge number of aircraft!

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Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:06 pm

Hi PH

Another great intra-asia trip report
Great too see you got the 732 in your log!
Sriwijaya looks like a good airline, nice to see what good cleaning and maintenance can do!
Lion Air just looks like a greyhound bus IMO

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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:14 pm

Hi PH!

Great report as usual, with some great pictures!
Sriwijaya does indeed look good, I'd love to fly a 732 before they are all gone from the skies.
Lion looks so-so. Will be interesting to see how they will develop with their huge orders.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):

Touchdown happened 42 minutes after takeoff - the reverse thrust sound was awesome! thumbsup

I can only imagine.

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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:48 am

PH, another great trip report on some exotic airlines accompanied with some great photos.
The 737-200 certainly does look good for such an old aircraft however the seating does look cramped.
Lion air doesn't look anything to write home about and I guess the lack of safety cards is a concern.

Thanks for sharing and I look forward to your next trip.

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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:36 am

Great trip report as usual! Nice to get on another 737-200!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
The outdoor area between the road and the terminal halls can become very crowded during peak times (picture taken on the next day):

Thanks for the picture of CGK. I only arrived there once (in the dark), nice to see what it looks like during daylight!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
Hotel floor and the terminal's road side:

Is the hotel directlt connected to the terminal?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
A friendly Sriwijaya Air agent quickly handed out my boarding pass

Old school boarding pass for a old school airplane.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
I can only hope that Lion Air hasn't decided to entirely replace safety cards by invocation cards...

Perhaps they want all passengers to pray for a safe flight?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Thread starter):
PK-YVJ is one of two A330-200s in the Batavia Air fleet

Didn't realise Batavia Air had two A330-s. They sure printed A330 on their livery pretty big.
 
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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:06 am

Hello PH!

Thank you for the wonderful report with lots of pics! I enjoyed reading through it! I really like the fact that Indonesian carriers offer snacks for passengers to munch on even for short domestic hops!

Looking forward to reading more of your TR!  

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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:56 am

Nice trip report!! And wonderful shots of the 200! It sure must have been a treat. I will never forget my last 737-200 ride. LAS to LAX on America West first class. The seat was comfy, and had the best service ever on such a short flight. Not to mention, I flew LAS to LAX routes over 100 times.  
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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:23 pm

Thank you so much for this amazing TR with fantastic photos. The B732 is an amazing machine to fly on in this day and age, and your trip report has allowed me to get a feel of what taking a flight on such and aircraft is like.
 
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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:13 am

Hey PH,

Wow, what a beautiful report.

I miss those B732s so much, I used to fly them a lot from Tel Aviv to Eilat on Arkia when I was young, always asked for the window seat right above the thrust reverser.

As for the airlines ... well, low cost is low coat, and in asia it can get really low...

Thank you for another fantastic report - it was a great read.

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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:04 am

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 35):
good to follow your Indonesion tour, an excellent read again.

Hi CaptainRed, thanks a lot for your comments! Good to hear you enjoyed it.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 35):
Quite impressed by the service from Sriwijaya, definitely a nice airline.

No doubt about that!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 35):
I really like how the engines are mounted under the wing and the deployment of the thrust reversers.

  

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 35):
Wow, that looks great, doesn't feel like an airport at all.

That's the problem, it can get very hot in there...

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 35):

Hmm, did they even do a safety briefing?

Yes, they did.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 36):
A very nice next part of your Indonesian flying adventures! Greats pics and story all the way.

Hi Nils, many thanks for your feedback!

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 36):
The contrast in aircraft couldn't big bigger here and as you say, those Sriwiwiijaja's B732's look and feel excellent!

Absolutely, SJ's 732 was a real winner.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 36):
That makes me remember my sole B732 flight I had some 7 years ago, on Aerocontinente from CUZ to LIM. That was one amazing experience as well with probably the longest takeoff roll I have ever experienced.

Wow, that sounds exciting! Any pictures for a retro report?

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 36):
The amount in local currency is for sure quite exorbitant

  

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 36):
And most probably, they wouldn't have bothered either

Well, who knows...

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 36):
Quite impressive. That'll make Lion Air the n°1 B739 operator, no?

Yes, they have 61 737-900ERs now, 134 more are on order. Korean Air is the largest 737-900 non-ER operator (16 frames).

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 36):
I sure hope it's no allusion to their not-so-good safety reputation?

I hope so, too.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 36):
Did you say your prayer lol?

No...

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 37):
Great report PH!

Hi Mark, thanks for replying!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 37):
- Now that is my kind of hotel room view!

The perfect spotter room!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 37):
Of the two carriers Sriwijaya looks the better carrier, the planes, though older, look in better shape and you get service on board too!

Yes, I was quite impressed by SJ.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 37):
Thanks for the pictures of the viewing deck, I'm really hoping to get out there either in November or early next year, some serious spotting to be done!

Sounds good! You will have fun there! And don't forget to book a daytrip including SJ!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 38):
So many nice unusual reports on the forum at the moment, this being one of them. Congrats on scoring the 732.

Hi Hannah, many thanks for your comments!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 38):
That does look awful, worse than easyJet!

Yes, it was really bad.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 38):
Hope you brought that home as a sounvenir….

No, you had to damage the bag in order to reach the content.

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 39):
Great report, always a pleasure to read about something different.

Hi LXM83, thank you for your reply!

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 39):
The 732 is an amazing aircraft, I simply love the thrust reversers.

I can only agree.

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 39):
Amazing, that's a huge number of aircraft!

Yes, but I fear the enormous growth will have negative consequences for numerous smaller airlines.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 40):
Another great intra-asia trip report

Many thanks, Marc!

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 40):
Great too see you got the 732 in your log!

Well, I had already enjoyed two 732 flights before that trip. But it was nice to get the type again.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 40):
Sriwijaya looks like a good airline, nice to see what good cleaning and maintenance can do!

Absolutely! Many airlines could learn a lesson.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 40):
Lion Air just looks like a greyhound bus IMO

Probably even worse...

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 41):
Great report as usual, with some great pictures!

Hi Martin, thank you for commenting!

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 41):
Sriwijaya does indeed look good, I'd love to fly a 732 before they are all gone from the skies.

You should really try to secure a flight on that type. The number of trustworthy operators is shrinking, through. Any plans to visit Indonesia, Canada (Air North, Canadian North, First Air) or Chile (Sky Airline)?

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 41):
Will be interesting to see how they will develop with their huge orders.

I hope they won't drive nicer airlines out of the market.

Quoting flykev (Reply 42):
PH, another great trip report on some exotic airlines accompanied with some great photos.

Hi Kev, thanks a lot for your feedback!

Quoting flykev (Reply 42):
Lion air doesn't look anything to write home about and I guess the lack of safety cards is a concern.

Yes, I can only agree.

Quoting flykev (Reply 42):

Thanks for sharing and I look forward to your next trip.

I hope it will be ready within a week.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 43):
Great trip report as usual! Nice to get on another 737-200!

Hi Robert, thank you for replying!

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 43):
Is the hotel directlt connected to the terminal?

It's located in the terminal building - excellent location if you don't want to leave the airport.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 43):
Old school boarding pass for a old school airplane.

  

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 43):
Didn't realise Batavia Air had two A330-s. They sure printed A330 on their livery pretty big.

No doubt about the type when flying that airline!

Quoting moosecamel88 (Reply 44):
Thank you for the wonderful report with lots of pics! I enjoyed reading through it!

Hi Mustafa, thank you very much - I'm glad you enjoyed reading!

Quoting moosecamel88 (Reply 44):
I really like the fact that Indonesian carriers offer snacks for passengers to munch on even for short domestic hops!

Very impressive! Hopefully that won't change - but Lion Air's growth may negatively affect service levels.

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 45):
Nice trip report!! And wonderful shots of the 200! It sure must have been a treat.

Hi F9Animal, thanks for your comments! It was indeed a great experience.

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 45):
I will never forget my last 737-200 ride. LAS to LAX on America West first class. The seat was comfy, and had the best service ever on such a short flight.

Sounds very good. I once got rebooked onto a HP 732 from PHX to PHX-LAS-Quoting F9Animal (Reply 45):
Not to mention, I flew LAS to LAX routes over 100 times.

Wow, that's a lot!

Quoting countvis (Reply 46):
Thank you so much for this amazing TR with fantastic photos.

Hi countvis, thanks for leaving these nice comments!

Quoting countvis (Reply 46):
The B732 is an amazing machine to fly on in this day and age, and your trip report has allowed me to get a feel of what taking a flight on such and aircraft is like.

Good to hear!

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 47):
Wow, what a beautiful report.

Hi Jonathan, thanks for your feedback!

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 47):
I miss those B732s so much, I used to fly them a lot from Tel Aviv to Eilat on Arkia when I was young, always asked for the window seat right above the thrust reverser.

Yeah, good choice!

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 47):
As for the airlines ... well, low cost is low coat, and in asia it can get really low...

Sure, Lion Air shows how low it can get.

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 47):
Thank you for another fantastic report - it was a great read.

Thanks again!


PH

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RE: Blast From The Past: Sriwijaya 732 & Lion Air 739

Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:34 am

Hi PH

Apologies for taking so long to getting around to posting a comment on what was an excellent trip report. Nothing less than amazing in terms of feeling like I was there with you on those flights. Great stuff!

I really enjoyed seeing the B732 again as well - it's such a shame it's no longer flying in many parts of the world today. I really associate that aircraft with my youth as they were once so incredibly common. Great that you were seated "correctly" to be able to watch the bucket reversers come out on landing !

Your experiences seemed great - what a good idea for a day trip.

PS I really liked the Garuda retrojet - again, those colours remind me of the first time I saw Garuda in Sydney back in 1986 - a B747 in those colours rotated right in front of me! I was transfixed.

Thanks again - P/jet
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