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Around The World With OW & ST - Part III - RJ

Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:15 am

Dear fellow A.Netters, welcome to the last installment of my trip to catch the Korean Air A380,the previous threads can be found here:-

Around The World With OW & ST - Part I - BA (by ba319-131 Feb 5 2012 in Trip Reports)
Around The World With OW & ST - Part II - KE (by ba319-131 Feb 19 2012 in Trip Reports)

Here is a route map of the entire trip:-

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After less than 24 hours in Hong Kong, it was sadly time to head home, my last 2 trips hear have had me confined to the airport spotting, hopefully next time I have more time free to visit the city again, wonderful place.

View of my hotel and the taxi’s all lined up by colour

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The visibility had been really poor, quite a contrast to my last visits, the locals blame China

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After parting company with Brewox after 6pm, I headed back to my room, did the usual jobs in the hotel and checked out, I could hear many Australian voices in the hotel lobby,though it a bit odd, later discovered this was the Qantas grounding, something that would affect Brewox the next day, PH was too affected, though thankfully TK came to his rescue, LH saved Brewox.

A short walk and I arrived at terminal 2 just after 8pm. Check-in for RJ183 was in zone N tonight, both business class counters were busy, I was directed to an empty economy check-in counter.

The check-in process was painless and conducted by a pretty disinterested contract employee, both boarding passes and lounge invitation in hand I headed off to clear security.

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Normally I give myself plenty of time, especially so when having to go via terminal 2 as it takes longer, what with getting the train etc, however today was not the case and because I was running later than I usually like, everything seemed to be taking longer, like clearing security etc etc.

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Arrival into T1 was done by 20:30, with boarding starting at 20:45 that gave me just a few spare minutes to check out the lounge and grab a drink before heading to the gate.

FIDS

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RJ use the Travelers Lounge, I guess because it is cheaper than using a OW partner lounge.

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The lounge has a cash bar, however I have a stamp on my boarding pass which allows free drinks.

Lounge pass

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Entry is quick and I find somewhere to drop my bags before taking a wander.

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It’s a cash bar for booze but I found some in a fridge towards the rear

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Hot food section

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I had a quick drink before heading off to the gate, not much lounging time unfortunately so I can’t really comment on the lounge apart from it seemed quite poorly lit and lacked any views of the ramp.

I passed an A380 gate on the way, this evenings KE flight would use this later, it’s not arrived yet, too early.

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I’m sure this would have been a better lounge

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29-10-2011
RJ183
HKG-BKK
A330-223 JY-AIE Built 2008
Seat 3A BusIness Class
1st Flight on this aircraft, 7th A330-200 flight flight
Sch Dep 21:30 Sch Arr 23:25
Act Dep 21:24 Act Arr 23:16


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My bird this evening

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JY-AIE is was not delivered to RJ factory fresh, she was delivered new to Air Comet in December 2008 as EC-KXB


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in December 2009 she was stored before entering service some 5 months later with RJ.

I arrived at gate 17 at just the right time, passengers were already forming queues for the two respective business and economy jetways, there were just 2 passengers ahead of me in the business class line.

I had been in line just moments when the business class boarding started, I was halfway down the jetway before the actual boarding call was made.

Stepping aboard JY-AIE I was kind of greeted by a FA, no smiles or warmth felt, through the flight she gave the feeling of being just slightly aloof. Also of note, her outfit was not like the rest of the crew so I assume she was the top dog so to speak, if so, not so great, more on this later.

Turned right and headed down the very narrow aisles to row three for my seat, 3A.

My seat to BKK and on to AMM.

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Legroom

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Power

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Limited view outside

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Across the cabin

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RJ's A330 fleet are kitted out with 24 JCL seats in a typical 2-2-2 layout. The seats themselves are not flat bed, but recline into an angled bed when put in bed mode. The seats themselves are quite comfortable and the cabin ambience overall is fine, not bright and flashy more dull calming mixes of earthy tan and browns with blue and gray too, quite relaxing.

I have to point out that the aisles are very narrow which makes it quite difficult to wheel your bag behind you, it's easier to pick it up and carry it sideways.

On each of the seats a good sized pillow could be found along with a decent blanket, the quality looking pretty similar to the ones BA provide in Club World.

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Safety card and various magazines are protected in this plastic cover, similar to LH

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After a few more J passengers entered the cabin, welcome drinks of OJ, water and I assume apple juice were offered, these again by the none too friendly FA.

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The last cabin door closed at 21:17, the passenger count in J being 15 of 24 seats.

Prior to push the crew came around to take post departure drinks orders, I ordered a glass of merlot, menu’s were also distributed.

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Those that travel this route frequently will know the meal well!

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New overhead signs

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Push back occured a few minutes ahead of schedule at 21:24

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One for our many Finnish friends

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a fairly lengthy taxi out but no holding, we turned onto the active and accelerated down the runway. The take off run was pretty rough, very bumpy and the cabin fixtures and fittings shook a great deal, wheels up @ 21:41.

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One thing to comment on was the cabin lights were not dimmed for departure, it always seems a little odd when this does not happen plus it plays havoc on trying to take pictures outside.

Quick look at the IFE

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Just after 10pm our drinks were distributed along with a small bowl of nuts, I do like the way the RJ crown is featured on the glasses and dinner ware.

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Headsets were passed out, cheap looking I must say, hot towels were passed out after this, they we a bit more 'fluffy' than the BA ones I am used too, nice.

Table linens were placed for those wishing to take the snack on this short hop, meal trays then placed.

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One of the FA's came around offering white wine then the lead FA came around offering top ups of the red. I had decided the red was corked and suggested she opened another bottle, it was clear she had no idea what corked meant,she explains to me it was a fresh bottle! I did dry to explain but to no avail, I asked for champagne to replace the red, after that she continued to offer top ups with the same bottle to the other side of the cabin, hmm.

The champagne arrived a few minutes later, I'd pretty much finished the meal by then.

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The meal itself was only a snack but was ok, I left the prawn thing as I'm not into those, buy the rest went down well.

Meal trays were soon cleared away, the FA tried to take my water and champagne too though I managed to save the these.

The glasses were almost empty but I had to ask for them to be topped up, she was looking to remove them, I did get top up’s in the end.

Galley area, not keen on these fake wooden floor finishes on planes

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I must have dropped off as next thing I recall was a crew call and decent start.

Wheels touched down at 23:16, some 4 minutes later we pulled up gate E9.

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Once on stand passengers who were continuing to Amman were asked to remain on board and if they had changed seats to return to the one printed on their boarding pass.

It was also advised that there would be a crew change, hopefully that bode well for a more friendly crew on the next leg, I had found this set to be rather reserved, lacked any warmth or charm and were not particularly attentive to their passengers.

The cleaning crew came aboard and did their usual sweep and tidy of the aircraft where required, to be fare they had little to do in J as nobody had made a mess or changed seats, I must add most of the female cleaners were really hot!
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RE: Around The World With OW & ST - Part III - RJ

Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:16 am

Plane cleaned and new crew set the boarding process started, time now 23:52.



29-10-2011
RJ183
BKK-AMM
A330-223 JY-AIE Built 2008
Seat 3A BusIness Class
2nd Flight on this aircraft, 8th A330-200 flight flight
Sch Dep 00:30 Sch Arr 04:15
Act Dep 00:30 Act Arr 04:50


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New passengers en mass arrived aboard, the almost empty first leg would change to nearly a full house, all but one of the J seats were taken once boarding was complete, Y looked packed to the rafters too, seems RJ are doing decent business on this sector, though competition is intense and fares can be very low if routing via the Gulf/Middle East.

Pre-departures drinks were again offered, Same options as before, I took water, I have to comment these tumblers RK use have a good weight about them

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Menu’s were the next items to be passed out closely followed by amenity packs, these arriving sealed in a clear plastic bag.



closely followed by amenity packs, these arriving sealed in a clear plastic bag.


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The bag was quite nice, contents were just the usual, nothing special, shame there was no pen in there.

The economy airbridge was moved, leaving the last of the late arriving Y passenger enter via door L1, funny how they looked around the J cabin for their seats before being ushered further down the plane by a FA.

Door L1 was closed at 00:28 and we pushed back just 2 minutes later, quite impressive.

Flight time was announced as 9 hours 34 minutes, then the safety demo was played as we taxied out to the active, after the video was finished the cabin lights were dimmed.

AIE rolled onto the active, a brief hold and then the engines spooled up and the brakes were released, airborne at 00:47.

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Not sure why, never realized this sector was this long

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Once the crew were released mood lighting was turned on, it seemed to slowly pulse to begin with, quite soothing actually before settling into a continuous setting.

Others, including my seatmate, had decided to call it a night already

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Hot towels were soon passed around before table linens being laid out for those wishing to eat, no drinks run before the meal.

Linen detail

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My meal tray was passed out by the lead FA, I thanked her and she replied enjoy, no smile or anything.

Starter, all in all quite enjoyable, though the ‘burger’ roll is a let down, it’s far too low rent to be on a JCL meal tray

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Once those wishing to eat had their trays tumblers were filled with water from a bottle then white wine was offered before the red coming around, I took the red, this time it was fine.

The main meal options were served from a trolley, quite a nice idea as you can see what each of the dishes look like along with choosing which vegetables and or rice you wished to have, if any.

Whilst I like the idea, night time cabin mood lighting is not the best when it comes to looking at the dishes.

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I took the beef which was very good for beef on a plane, the potatoes were a tad under cooked, otherwise a good meal, the only drawback being the small wine glasses and the inattentive service from the crew, in particular the lead FA who seemed to be serving my aisle.

As other passengers awoke they were given their meal trays, however not once did she glance at the rest of the passengers to see if they want anything else, I managed to catch her and ask for more water and wine though by the time it arrived my meal was finished, most of it eaten without a drink of any kind to hand. Yes I could have used the call button to get attention but I'm not a fan of that, in JCL, service should be more attentive.

Mains were cleared and a choice for desert was offered, I too one, it was suggested I took the other too, our FA was seemingly thawing out and suggested the other one was nicer, both were ok, I'm not a big desert fan really.

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Trays cleared I set the seat into bed mode and listened to some music.

Cabin during the night

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Still a while to go

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Toilet with a view, fine in the air but take caution when using on stand

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Getting there

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The lights were gently raised, a sign breakfast was to be served, good, getting hungry again.

Unfortunately there were no smells of food being warmed in the ovens, breakfast was a cold affair

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Fruit juice was offered along with tea and coffee. Apart from the dodgy ‘burger’ bun, breakfast was fine if a little disappointing.

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Meal service items were cleared away and the cabin preparations began for arrival, it was still very dark outside so pictures were useless.

Descent was smooth and wheels were down at 04:50, a little behind schedule but with my long layover here, no problem!

Lights of a quiet terminal

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On stand

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Despite the early hour the jetway staff were ready and within minutes I was off the plane.

Following the transfer passengers signs I had a small security check before I was airside. As you might imagine, it was pretty quiet at this time – I headed straight to the lounge.
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RE: Around The World With OW & ST - Part III - RJ

Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:17 am

Lounge time

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The escalators to and from the Royal Jordanian lounge are very old and very noisy, thankfully they still worked!

I had quite a layover here, so I figured some food, spotting, shower, food would be the order of play.

There seemed to be quite a lot of staff in the lounge so I took care taking pictures, with such a long stay, I did not want to cause any issues.

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1st snack in the lounge

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View from the lounge

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New terminal progress

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More snacks needed

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I had planned a nice hot shower but they wanted $15! – I settled with a sink wash and fresh deodorant.

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Last plane spotted before leaving the lounge

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Traffic had been slow as expected, though I made 17, many of which I would never see @ LHR.

Departure time was looming, thankfully! – so I headed for a quick trip through duty free before heading towards gate 3 for our flight to LHR.
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RE: Around The World With OW & ST - Part III - RJ

Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:18 am



29-10-2011
RJ111
AMM-LHR
A330-223 JY-AIF Built 2008
Seat 1K BusIness Class
1st Flight on this aircraft, 9th A330-200 flight
Sch Dep 11:15 Sch Arr 14:55
Act Dep 11:24 Act Arr 14:45


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Like it’s sister ship’s, JY-AIF is was not delivered to RJ factory fresh, she was delivered new to Air Comet as EC-KYC in January 2009


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in December 2009 she was stored before entering service some 5 months later with RJ.

Despite being airside, there is another security screening to clear before a final passport check, which then leaves you in the gate area holding pen.

Given the number of people already here and the lack of seats for everyone, this was going to be a full flight. From what I have read, it seems RJ do better on this route than BD.

Boarding started at 10:51, the process was a little chaotic with no organization, I finally alighted through door L1 to a much friendlier welcome than the previous welcome.

Being on the other side this time I crossed through the galley to take my seat, 1K for this flight.

The seat already had a small pillow on it, it was smaller than the previous flight, I guess they have day and night flight pillows on RJ.

Legroom shot

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View outside my window

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Being a day flight and a packed cabin, every JCL seat was taken, as was Y I suspect given the number of passengers who travelled through the cabin, I reduced the photo taking on this sector.

Service started with a welcome drink, which I forgot to photograph! Then newspapers, amenity kits handed out, different to the last flight, much smaller and a bit ‘girly’ if you ask me

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Pretty basic contents, toothbrush and paste, socks and eyeshades, well it was a day flight, though some moisturizer would be a good addition to the kit.

And the headsets for the IFE.

Prior to push the captain gave a brief welcome and advised the flight would be around 5 hours or so.

Push back occurred a few minutes behind schedule at 11:24, followed by a fairly long taxi to the active runway

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Lining up on 26L

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Rolling

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Wheels up @ 11:42

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Beautiful day for flying

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Shortly after departure the cabin crew came through taking drinks orders, returning shortly afterwards with your chosen options, I took red wine and some sparkling water, the drinks came with a small bowl of nuts too.

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Quite relaxing, not long enough to enjoy it!

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Todays menu



Time for lunch, tables were dressed in crisp white linen

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View outside

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Nice fresh salad for starter

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Beef for the main

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And very good it was too!

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I spent the rest of the flight watching some TV on the iPhone, sipping back the wine and enjoying the scenery outside.

The last few days had been quite a journey, around the world in five days, 6 flights, 3 nights in hotels, 2 nights on planes, so this last segment was just about sitting back and chilling, savouring those moments from the previous days, what a journey!

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Cloud, must be getting closer to home!

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The crew on this flight had been much more attentive that the previous flights, as a result the overall service impression was much better.

Descent

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Wheels down on 27R @ 14:55

No report complete without an A380 or two, these of course sat grounded due the QF strike action.

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Taxi to our gate at terminal 3 was pretty quick as was disembarkation, thanking the crew has I hightailed it to immigration, where the queues were huge, it took a good 20 minutes to clear them.

Summary

I have mixed feelings on RJ, three flights, three sets of crew, one better than the other two.

I need to try them again as I quite liked them, the food was good and you would not go hungry but the crews need to be more pro-active in the cabin to ensure their passengers are happy, drinks, hard or soft are topped up and just be ‘there’.

All in all, a thumbs up and I look forward to the time I need to step aboard a Royal Jordanina plane again.

I do hope you have enjoyed this series, the next adventure will follow soon.

Feel free to drop a line, comment or question, always like some feedback.

Cheers

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RE: Around The World With OW & ST - Part III - RJ

Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:12 am

A good conclusion to your round the world tour.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
I can’t really comment on the lounge apart from it seemed quite poorly lit and lacked any views of the ramp.

A plane-spotter's nightmare.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
JY-AIE is was not delivered to RJ factory fresh

Good to get a bit of background history on the individual aircraft.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
and were not particularly attentive to their passengers.

Shame, as this can spoil the experience. While not all passengers want much attention the crew do need to keep an eye open and anticipate who will. But it is good to read that

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 3):
The crew on this flight had been much more attentive that the previous flights, as a result the overall service impression was much better.
Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 1):
Menu’s were the next items to be passed

Interesting that cognac is listed under liqueurs and unnamed. The meals look simple but appealing.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 2):
Last plane spotted before leaving the lounge

Wonder why the Iraqi Airways plane is unpainted? It is quite amazing how many aircraft are just sitting around at AMM, and have been for years.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
grounded due the QF strike action.

Due to Alan Joyce's unnecessary decision - remember that neither the pilots nor the cabin crew were taking strike action. But that's another story.  

Thanks for sharing.
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RE: Around The World With OW & ST - Part III - RJ

Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:59 am

Welcome home! Your odyssey finished off on quite a good note. The food on RJ looks great - too bad the crews were so poor. To me, that decides the flight.

Thanks for sharing,
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RE: Around The World With OW & ST - Part III - RJ

Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:13 am

Hello again Mark!

Nice read about your flights with RJ. Love the design of their Menu´s. Pity about the not so friendly F/A´s.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
caution when using on stand

Good advise!

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
breakfast was a cold affair

Looks good. The white cubes with black dots in the fruit bowl looks interesting!?

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 2):
had planned a nice hot shower but they wanted $15

The´re are running out of water in Jordan soon you know 
Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
I do hope you have enjoyed this series, the next adventure will follow soon.

Great reports with nice pictures! But I guess you must felt quit tired when returning home after this long trip with all these different time zones?

Greetings
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RE: Around The World With OW & ST - Part III - RJ

Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:42 am

Great TR. I almost flew RJ in J on HKG-BKK, but there's so much competition on that sector, there were far more interesting options... EK, PIA, CX, TG...
 
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RE: Around The World With OW & ST - Part III - RJ

Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:24 pm

Hi Mark,

Great conclusion to your haphazard RTW trip. RJ looks decent, although a notch down from the big players. But I guess the ticket prices reflect that and they got the job done so no worries.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
View of my hotel and the taxi’s all lined up by colour

Hah, this is something you'd expect to get in Switzerland or Germany - ordnung muss sein and all that.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
RJ use the Travelers Lounge, I guess because it is cheaper than using a OW partner lounge.

Not impressed. Although your photos from the lounge look quite decent.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
The lounge has a cash bar, however I have a stamp on my boarding pass which allows free drinks.

Cash bars do not belong to lounges. Period. But good for RJ to not be stingy and offer you a bottomless tab  
Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
It’s a cash bar for booze but I found some in a fridge towards the rear

So I guess beer is free but if you want a cocktail or wine, bubbles etc. you have use the bar.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
Hot food section

Doesn't look bad at all. I like Asian lounges because of this - you always have something substantial to eat instead of the boring snacks you get in Europe (and let's not talk about the US).

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
Stepping aboard JY-AIE I was kind of greeted by a FA, no smiles or warmth felt, through the flight she gave the feeling of being just slightly aloof. Also of note, her outfit was not like the rest of the crew so I assume she was the top dog so to speak, if so, not so great, more on this later.

Oh no, that first contact is very important and often sets the mood and scene for the whole subsequent flight. A real shame, but good that they had the crew change at BKK.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
Just after 10pm our drinks were distributed along with a small bowl of nuts, I do like the way the RJ crown is featured on the glasses and dinner ware.

Classy. No dishware was accidentally dropped in your bag, was it?

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
it was clear she had no idea what corked meant,she explains to me it was a fresh bottle!

Hmm, that's quite bad. But then again I've heard waiters in top restaurants that had the same problem and started arguing with the customer so I guess that happens... Still some more training for the crew would be good in a premium cabin.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
The meal itself was only a snack but was ok, I left the prawn thing as I'm not into those, buy the rest went down well.

That looks very good to me (love all kinds of seafood, especially jumbo prawns!) and about right for the duration of the flight.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
Galley area, not keen on these fake wooden floor finishes on planes

Me neither. It looks so faux and out of place.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
The cleaning crew came aboard and did their usual sweep and tidy of the aircraft where required, to be fare they had little to do in J as nobody had made a mess or changed seats, I must add most of the female cleaners were really hot!

Markus makes a note to fly this flight in the future!

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
Once the crew were released mood lighting was turned on, it seemed to slowly pulse to begin with, quite soothing actually before settling into a continuous setting.

Looks nice and cozy.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
Starter, all in all quite enjoyable, though the ‘burger’ roll is a let down, it’s far too low rent to be on a JCL meal tray

Funny, this is exactly what I thought too when I saw the picture. Very odd.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
I took the beef which was very good for beef on a plane, the potatoes were a tad under cooked, otherwise a good meal, the only drawback being the small wine glasses and the inattentive service from the crew, in particular the lead FA who seemed to be serving my aisle.

You certainly have a thing about small wine glasses on this trip, don't you? Maybe you should start carrying your own huge glasses with you.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
Unfortunately there were no smells of food being warmed in the ovens, breakfast was a cold affair

Looks far too sugary for my tastes-

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
There seemed to be quite a lot of staff in the lounge so I took care taking pictures, with such a long stay, I did not want to cause any issues.

The lounge looks very large and quite stylish.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
More snacks needed

Ugh, I don't like the fact that the food comes shrink wrapped. Sure it is good for cleanliness and more hygienic but at the same time it feels like a school cafeteria or a petrol station...

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
Beef for the main

Oh dear, every time I read those menus and hope that you'd pick up the dish I'd picked up so I could see what it looks like and always you take my least favorite choice - the beef  
Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
The last few days had been quite a journey, around the world in five days, 6 flights, 3 nights in hotels, 2 nights on planes, so this last segment was just about sitting back and chilling, savouring those moments from the previous days, what a journey!

Congrats, you earned a little of "me time". It certainly was an interesting journey and quite some flying! Thanks for taking us with you, enjoyed it tremendously!
 
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RE: Around The World With OW & ST - Part III - RJ

Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:27 pm

Hi Mark
thanx for this round the world report
it was interesting to read. In fact i will do one too in june but i will stay away 15 days from Italy
RJ from HKG to BKK will be one of my flights so it was interersting reading it
and a lot of good photos too
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RE: Around The World With OW & ST - Part III - RJ

Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:47 pm

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 4):
Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
I can’t really comment on the lounge apart from it seemed quite poorly lit and lacked any views of the ramp.

A plane-spotter's nightmare.

- Indeed correct!

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 4):
Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
JY-AIE is was not delivered to RJ factory fresh

Good to get a bit of background history on the individual aircraft.

- Thanks, I thought interesting too.

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 4):
Interesting that cognac is listed under liqueurs and unnamed

- Well noted, I'd not picked that up.

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 4):
It is quite amazing how many aircraft are just sitting around at AMM, and have been for years.

- I know, quite a bone yard out there.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 5):
our odyssey finished off on quite a good note.

- Indeed it did, thanks for reading Alex.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 5):
The food on RJ looks great - too bad the crews were so poor. To me, that decides the flight.

- Good food, not so great crews, such a shame.

Quoting parton87 (Reply 6):
Love the design of their Menu´s

- Printed on decent thick card/paper too.

Quoting parton87 (Reply 6):
The white cubes with black dots in the fruit bowl looks interesting!?

- It's an odd fruit, has no taste I can detect, always thought it a pointless fruit.

Quoting parton87 (Reply 6):
Great reports with nice pictures! But I guess you must felt quit tired when returning home after this long trip with all these different time zones?

- Yes, but straight back to work the next day.

Quoting fabianbrimfield (Reply 7):
I almost flew RJ in J on HKG-BKK, but there's so much competition on that sector, there were far more interesting options... EK, PIA, CX, TG...

- Oh yes, lot's of choice on this route, though I needed the safety of one carrier to get me home.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 8):
Great conclusion to your haphazard RTW trip. RJ looks decent, although a notch down from the big players. But I guess the ticket prices reflect that and they got the job done so no worries.

- Tue, RJ are cheaper than than EK etc but they were pretty darn good overall.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 8):
Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
RJ use the Travelers Lounge, I guess because it is cheaper than using a OW partner lounge.

Not impressed. Although your photos from the lounge look quite decent.

- I wish I'd had more time to check it out properly.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 8):
Cash bars do not belong to lounges. Period

- Agreed!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 8):
No dishware was accidentally dropped in your bag, was it?

- Funny, a couple of the tumblers did  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 8):
Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
The meal itself was only a snack but was ok, I left the prawn thing as I'm not into those, buy the rest went down well.

That looks very good to me (love all kinds of seafood, especially jumbo prawns!) and about right for the duration of the flight.

- When we travel together next and seafood is served, you can have mine.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 8):
You certainly have a thing about small wine glasses on this trip, don't you? Maybe you should start carrying your own huge glasses with you.

- You might be right!

Quoting mxp (Reply 9):
thanx for this round the world report

- No worries, glad you enjoyed.

Quoting mxp (Reply 9):
RJ from HKG to BKK will be one of my flights so it was interersting reading it

- Hope to read aTR.

Cheers

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RE: Around The World With OW & ST - Part III - RJ

Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:33 pm

Hi,

Thanks for the great trip report!
I flew RJ on KUL-BKK in July 11 on JY-AIE also and your comments pretty much match what i thought of them. Good food and catering, and entertainment but the crew could have been much better. Great photos aswell and it looks like you had a fantastic RTW trip!
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RE: Around The World With OW & ST - Part III - RJ

Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:04 pm

Hi Mark,

great report for a Sunday evenings read to finish the weekend!

RJ looks quite ok to me, comfortable seat and nice amenities. Shame indeed about the missing pen indeed. I also like those airline branded pens usually  
Shame about the crew on the flights from Asia to AMM, you feel not 'important' when the crew is not around so much, and I fully understand that you try not to use the call button. Same here... also me dislikes. But sometimes one time pressing is enough to get attraction of the crew throughout the flight. The behavior you got is under par indeed.
Not on the LHR bound flight then, where they seem to be pretty good.

Another point I dislike is the $15 for shower use? Unbelievable to be honest, since they want to cater pax from Europe to Asia with an AMM stopover of many hours? And then, asking money to use a bit of water and soap... Something in need to change real soon.

btw, interesting to see a few AZ Embraers around for maintenance in AMM, I assume? Not eating sand, like so many others there I hope.

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RE: Around The World With OW & ST - Part III - RJ

Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:34 pm

Very nice Mark - nice to see RJ's Business product after my flights with the in Y - they don't look as wonderful as I'd imagined.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
Normally I give myself plenty of time, especially so when having to go via terminal 2 as it takes longer, what with getting the train etc, however today was not the case and because I was running later than I usually like, everything seemed to be taking longer, like clearing security etc etc.

Always the way when one's running late

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
RJ use the Travelers Lounge, I guess because it is cheaper than using a OW partner lounge.

Did you try to use one of the CX/KA/QF lounges? I'd be surpised if you were turned away

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):

RJ183
HKG-BKK
A330-223 JY-AIE Built 2008

Same plane I flew LHR-AMM one

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
Galley area, not keen on these fake wooden floor finishes on planes

Ooh, I quite like them - better than a nasty lino

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
The economy airbridge was moved, leaving the last of the late arriving Y passenger enter via door L1, funny how they looked around the J cabin for their seats before being ushered further down the plane by a FA.

A lot of people do that. I've seen people with 34F on their bps searching in vain to see that seat number displayed in the first few rows.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
Starter, all in all quite enjoyable, though the ‘burger’ roll is a let down, it’s far too low rent to be on a JCL meal tray

Not very premium

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
most of it eaten without a drink of any kind to hand. Yes I could have used the call button to get attention but I'm not a fan of that, in JCL, service should be more attentive.

I find a lot of airlines fall down in this respect - TK was awful about serving drinks until I complained. UK airlines are much better in this respect. I'm interested to see how SQ C performs on Tuesday

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
Unfortunately there were no smells of food being warmed in the ovens, breakfast was a cold affair

Very dissapointing

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
More snacks needed

Happy to see you enjoyed lots of those little bottles of water too! I've got loads sitting around at home, very handy size for trips!
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RE: Around The World With OW & ST - Part III - RJ

Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:00 am

Thanks for the excellent report!

RJ seems to have suffer lots of cutbacks lately and catering has cut much. I find it quite unacceptable to serve a cold snack on the two hours flight from HKG to BKK. I don't expect a fancy dinner, but a hot light meal is necessary especially in J. Who wants dinner at 1am again? Poor catering planning on RJ part. I presume they don't want to serve two dinners... most ex-BKK passengers possibly want a hot dinner.

RJ F/As is a mixed bunch and I think the inconsistency is getting worst. BKK to HKG/KUL tend to have the worst F/As, as they worked the turnaround flights and in general, they don't enjoy the trip.

Thanks again sharing... Too bad the observation deck is closed in HKG for renovation now...

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RE: Around The World With OW & ST - Part III - RJ

Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:39 am

Great finish to your RTW trip, Mark.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
Safety card and various magazines are protected in this plastic cover, similar to LH

Interesting to see this. I haven't seen any other airlines showing their aircraft seat-maps. Pretty cool!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 13):
Very nice Mark - nice to see RJ's Business product after my flights with the in Y - they don't look as wonderful as I'd imagined.

I agree with you here. RJ always has impressive advertising, and pictures I've seen of the cabin, etc., has made it look amazing. This report makes it not appear quite as incredible ...

Thanks for sharing!

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Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:12 am

HI Mark.

Congratulations on the conclusion of this series of reports. Got to say, it was a great selection of interesting carriers, and I thoroughly enjoyed reading.

Somehow I expected a much great wow-factor with RJ, this was a little underwhelming. Lots of little things that probably cost little, but make a difference to the whole service e.g. A warm breakfast and a hot shower. Surly staff are the worst of it. Not bad, not exceptional.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
The lounge has a cash bar, however I have a stamp on my boarding pass which allows free drinks.

What!? Why on earth were they not using One World lounge, and I am surprised at this cash bar measure in HK given reasonable price for alcohol here.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 1):
I must add most of the female cleaners were really hot!

Nice, nice observation, imagining thai beauties in ill-fitted cleaning outfits. Thanks...

I am no expert on identifying aerial views normally on this website, but one view of yours caught my eye. The marina. I thought; hold on, that can't be on the dead sea, and then looking at, I recognised it to be Hertzlia Marina just outside Tel Aviv. I spent almost 2 weeks trying to hitch a boat back to Europe from here on my travels, so I know it all too well! Bought back strange emotions; but there you go - Hertliya Marina, Israel.

Rgds

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Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:41 pm

It seems you flew over Herzlia. And that white prop plane looks like Arkia. RJ seems like a nice airline. They participate in the BA Avios program so I may take them one day.
 
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Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:16 pm

Hi Mark,

Well done my friend. An amazing TR, that makes a very strong point! I have been waiting for this TR, as i wanted to compare notes to what i have experienced on RJ last month on CMB-AMM.

To be honest, i was quite shocked at the plummeting quality levels on RJ, in comparison to 2007/2008/2009 when i thought they were at their ultimate best.

Catering on your flights (on all three of your sectors) was so much better than what i got on my 7.5 hour flight in J. The same goes for the amenity kit as well. In fact, the difference is quite ridiculous. However, it does seem that we got the same 'software' as the crew were there but not there if you know what i mean.

I am quite disappointed with RJ, as i expected a lot better out of them. If they want to be a global player, then the momentum should not stop after gaining Oneworld status. To me, it seems that they excelled once upon a time in order to get into Oneworld. But now that they're in, they think they can slack it off. And if they continue like this, they will go back into the legacy days of Alia.

I have yet to hear of, or experience, good service on RJ in Crown Class to and from Asia. However, fly them ex Dubai or London, and they will be on the ball (or close enough). And from your report, RJ continues to fit into this pattern. Quite bizarre, and i can't seem to understand it!

On that note, congratulations on finishing off your RTW! How was the jet lag afterwards?  

Thanks for sharing this with us, and always look forward to more!

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Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:03 pm

Hi Mark

Great report, Thanks for sharing!
RJ seems to have a nice product. Good seats and great food
Sorry to hear about the average crew on the HKG-BKK-AMM sector.

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RE: Around The World With OW & ST - Part III - RJ

Wed Mar 14, 2012 7:35 pm

Hi Mark!

Nice report as usual, good read about your experience on RJ!

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
I had a quick drink before heading off to the gate, not much lounging time unfortunately so I can%u2019t really comment on the lounge apart from it seemed quite poorly lit and lacked any views of the ramp.

Offerings look quite decent though.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):

Quick look at the IFE

Seems modern!

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
View from the lounge

I really like RJ's livery.

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Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:16 pm

Hi Mark

Great to see the last instalment and one I was looking forward to.

Strange that in HK, a Oneworld stronghold with CX lounges everywhere, RJ would offer a common user lounge for its premium passengers. The QF lounge in HK is certainly quite pleasant, albeit sans views.

The hardware on board the A330s looked very sound. Shame the the service seemed to be very inconsistent. I guess it's a feature with all airlines these days. I've explored the idea of using RJ on my next trip back to Oz flying with them to either HK or BKK and then down to Aus with QF. Thanks for the great insight.

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Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:22 pm

Good little series of trips - Bet you got a few OW miles for that too!
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RE: Around The World With OW & ST - Part III - RJ

Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:03 pm

Hi, Mark,

pretty good to follow you´re final story.
Well written and nice pictures.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
I must add most of the female cleaners were really hot!

Hey, it´s BKK. I like it this way!.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):

The last few days had been quite a journey, around the world in five days, 6 flights, 3 nights in hotels, 2 nights on planes, so this last segment was just about sitting back and chilling, savouring those moments from the previous days, what a journey!

Congrats, that´s what we are looking for here.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):

I do hope you have enjoyed this series, the next adventure will follow soon.

Really good to know.

Greetings,
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RE: Around The World With OW & ST - Part III - RJ

Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:12 pm

Hi Mark,

Interesting last episode of your (latest) RTW series. There are not too many RJ report around here, so this one is very welcomed. I very much like the livery on their planesn they indeed have something royalish over them with the black and gold. To be honest: I've seen nicer looking business class cabins, the use of colors appeared rather limited. Just some grey and blue monotones, not too inviting. I'm sorry to hear some crews were rather so and so. I'm glad that didn't put you off in maybe choosing RJ again somewhere in the future.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
and the taxi’s all lined up by colour

Any idea why and what the colors mean?

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
Galley area, not keen on these fake wooden floor finishes on planes

Nope, it looks cheap. Some golden seamed carpets would be more appropriate  

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
Not sure why, never realized this sector was this long

Now you mention it, indeed. And an ungodly arrival hour too.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
Apart from the dodgy ‘burger’ bun

Definitely not an item that belongs on a business class meal tray!

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
I had planned a nice hot shower but they wanted $15!

What a rip-off! Some good deodorant performs mircacles in the situations  

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RE: Around The World With OW & ST - Part III - RJ

Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:20 pm

Another fantastic repot Mark. I was glad to see you post a trip report on RJ as I flew them myself recently and wanted to make some comparisons.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
RJ use the Travelers Lounge, I guess because it is cheaper than using a OW partner lounge.

Thats a shame, so much for oneworld. In BKK RJ also use the Thai Airways lounge rather than any oneworld partner.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 2):
The escalators to and from the Royal Jordanian lounge are very old and very noisy, thankfully they still worked!

That they are but thankfully the lounge is not bad. $15 for a shower is ridiculous though!

It looks like you had better luck with them than I did. Their soft product left a lot to be desired on my flight and their hard product was very inconsistent as well. After my exerience, I am in no hurry to try the again unless I really have to. Though since I rarely fly oneworld unless it is Cathay Pacific, I suspect I am not missing much.
 
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RE: Around The World With OW & ST - Part III - RJ

Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:03 pm

Hi Mark,

Really nice trip report - I'm thinking of using RJ from HKG - BKK as their Biz class is so cheap on that sector and it's good for miles and status points with the QF FF program.

I honestly thought they would be better than what I saw in your report.

Food looked... well.... cheap. Not up to J class standard. What's with that burger roll?? That's plain weird!

I think not offering a hot breakfast in J class on overnight flights is wrong too, but EK do this now too.  

Oh - that fruit with the white dots? Dragonfruit. Not much taste, but very healthy for you. Good for your digestion!

Thanks for taking the time to do these reports!
 
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RE: Around The World With OW & ST - Part III - RJ

Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:57 pm

Hi Mark!

Thanks for the last part of this interesting RTW series reports!

RJ looks quite good at least the meals although the cold breakfast must have been very disappointing. The best looking meal is the one from AMM to LHR.

Too bad the crews weren't that great; the crew is the most important factor for me if I enjoy a flight.

Looking forward to your next report!

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Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:33 am

Hey BA,

Yet another great report from you. Royal Jordanian JCL looks fantastic, sorry you hear crews weren't so good.

You flew right over Israel, the two pics you took are from Hertzelia.

Royal Jordanian flight you took (AMM-BKK-HKG) used to be very popular among the Israelis, but with RJ's prices gone way high in the past 3 years or so, many moved to another airlines, mostly from Eastern Europe on the far east flights (Uzbekistan, Transaero, Aerosvit).

Thank you for shearing, some great photos you had there.

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RE: Around The World With OW & ST - Part III - RJ

Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:52 am

Hi Mark,

great last part of your impressive series! RJ's J Class product looks decent, but not overwhelming.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
I could hear many Australian voices in the hotel lobby,though it a bit odd, later discovered this was the Qantas grounding, something that would affect Brewox the next day, PH was too affected, though thankfully TK came to his rescue, LH saved Brewox.

  

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
. The seats themselves are quite comfortable and the cabin ambience overall is fine, not bright and flashy more dull calming mixes of earthy tan and browns with blue and gray too, quite relaxing.

I agree - but I prefer TV screens being installed in the seatbacks.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
I had decided the red was corked and suggested she opened another bottle, it was clear she had no idea what corked meant,she explains to me it was a fresh bottle! I did dry to explain but to no avail, I asked for champagne to replace the red, after that she continued to offer top ups with the same bottle to the other side of the cabin, hmm.

Interesting - some basic knowledge about wine should be part of the training for FAs serving in J Class.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
Galley area, not keen on these fake wooden floor finishes on planes

Hm, Jet Airways also had such a floor on the 77W and I found it nice. And it's probably easy to clean.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
I managed to catch her and ask for more water and wine though by the time it arrived my meal was finished, most of it eaten without a drink of any kind to hand. Yes I could have used the call button to get attention but I'm not a fan of that, in JCL, service should be more attentive.

We had a similar issue on a recent EK flight in J Class.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
I had planned a nice hot shower but they wanted $15!

Rip-off!

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
much smaller and a bit ‘girly’ if you ask me

Yes, I can only agree.

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
The last few days had been quite a journey, around the world in five days, 6 flights, 3 nights in hotels, 2 nights on planes, so this last segment was just about sitting back and chilling, savouring those moments from the previous days, what a journey!

Yes, what a journey!

Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
No report complete without an A380 or two, these of course sat grounded due the QF strike action.

One of them had been scheduled to carry me - well, let's see what happens in May...


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RE: Around The World With OW & ST - Part III - RJ

Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:03 pm

Hi Mark !
the end of the trilogy ...ahhh ... but you have a good time and I am more than satisfied with reading material hehehe ...
thank you for putting pictures of the new AMM terminal ... all the best stipica  
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RE: Around The World With OW & ST - Part III - RJ

Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:45 am

Hi Mark,

nice conclusion to your short RTW series. I think that this must be one of the shortest RTW trips I've seen! How tired were you afterwards?   With plenty of J-class beds and wine, I imagine overall you managed to sleep very well!

As others have said, a flight is made or broken by its crew, and unfortunately you don't seem to have had the best on board these RJ flights, a shame as otherwise the product looks very good. They will have to go a long way to compete with the EK, QR, EYs of this world in operating a Middle East hub.

Thanks again for the report.

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Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:09 pm

Hey Mark ,
Great report on RJ . Shame the crew were a mixed bag. The lady in the traditional Jordanian dress is the Chief IIRC. I like RJ have very nice flights on them . That new terminal is taking forever.

I love the RJ lounge at AMM and some nice snacks there. The showers being charged for are a bit weak if you ask me . Always hate that policy. Your right about the staff way too many doing not that much it seemed when I was there.

The grave yard at AMM with the LN and IA planes is lovely to see . Whats the AZ aircraft doing there ?

It seems RJ offer a better product on the LHR service ? Thats the impressions I got from your photos anyway .

Thanks for the report.

Regards

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RE: Around The World With OW & ST - Part III - RJ

Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:04 pm

It’s interesting to read a report about Royal Jordanian. I really enjoyed the pictures - the beef dish on the flight to Heathrow looks quite delicious, as does the salad!

My only experience of the airline is a very short return hop between Tel Aviv and Amman on the Embraer 175 and A320 last May. The flights were too short to really comment about the service, but I did think it would be interesting in the future to transit through Amman when travelling to Asia.

I have always had high expectations of Royal Jordanian. From an enthusiast’s perspective the airline has always seemed to project an image of good Middle Eastern hospitality. I don’t think your report necessarily dents that image, but times have certainly changed and, in comparison to the other big players in the region, Royal Jordanian appears to have stagnated somewhat.

I also liked seeing the pictures of the new Amman Airport terminal. I understand that the terminal is designed to look like Bedouin tents, which is nothing less than you would expect from Sir Norman Foster.
 
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RE: Around The World With OW & ST - Part III - RJ

Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:36 am

Apologies for the later reply to your comments/questions, I forgot about this report!

Quoting byronicle6 (Reply 11):
Thanks for the great trip report!

- Thanks, glad you enjoyed the read.

Quoting byronicle6 (Reply 11):
I flew RJ on KUL-BKK in July 11 on JY-AIE also and your comments pretty much match what i thought of them. Good food and catering, and entertainment but the crew could have been much better.

- The crew seems a common theme.

Quoting byronicle6 (Reply 11):
Great photos aswell and it looks like you had a fantastic RTW trip!

- I did thanks, wish it had been longer.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 12):
great report for a Sunday evenings read to finish the weekend!

- I think that was some Sundays ago now!  
Quoting airbuseric (Reply 12):
Shame indeed about the missing pen indeed. I also like those airline branded pens usually

- They don't cost much to make either.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 12):
Another point I dislike is the $15 for shower use? Unbelievable to be honest, since they want to cater pax from Europe to Asia with an AMM stopover of many hours? And then, asking money to use a bit of water and soap... Something in need to change real soon.

- Agreed, quite an odd policy to charge $15 to use the shower when they may have spend a good few thousand $ on flights!

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 12):
btw, interesting to see a few AZ Embraers around for maintenance in AMM, I assume? Not eating sand, like so many others there I hope.

- These were the 'old' 170's AZ, are they still in service? - looked like they were being inspected.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 13):
nice to see RJ's Business product after my flights with the in Y - they don't look as wonderful as I'd imagined.

- Indeed no but it was better than I expected in some respects.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 13):
Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
Normally I give myself plenty of time, especially so when having to go via terminal 2 as it takes longer, what with getting the train etc, however today was not the case and because I was running later than I usually like, everything seemed to be taking longer, like clearing security etc etc.

Always the way when one's running late

- Good, not just me then.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 13):
Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
RJ use the Travelers Lounge, I guess because it is cheaper than using a OW partner lounge.

Did you try to use one of the CX/KA/QF lounges? I'd be surpised if you were turned away

- No, time was in short supply, poor planning on my part, spent too much time watching planes  
Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 13):
Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
The economy airbridge was moved, leaving the last of the late arriving Y passenger enter via door L1, funny how they looked around the J cabin for their seats before being ushered further down the plane by a FA.

A lot of people do that. I've seen people with 34F on their bps searching in vain to see that seat number displayed in the first few rows.

- People are odd!

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 13):
Happy to see you enjoyed lots of those little bottles of water too! I've got loads sitting around at home, very handy size for trips!

- I normally grab stuff like this, bag was far too full unfortunately  
Quoting Carfield (Reply 14):
Thanks for the excellent report!

- Thanks, glad you enjoyed the read.

Quoting Carfield (Reply 14):
RJ seems to have suffer lots of cutbacks lately and catering has cut much

- I though it was ok, but that was my first RJ experience, though the 'bun' was just out of place.

Quoting Carfield (Reply 14):
RJ F/As is a mixed bunch and I think the inconsistency is getting worst. BKK to HKG/KUL tend to have the worst F/As, as they worked the turnaround flights and in general, they don't enjoy the trip.

- Certainly shows on the crew.

Quoting Carfield (Reply 14):
Too bad the observation deck is closed in HKG for renovation now...

- Let's hope not for too long!

Quoting 767747 (Reply 15):

Great finish to your RTW trip, Mark.

- Thanks for reading, glad you enjoyed.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 16):
Congratulations on the conclusion of this series of reports. Got to say, it was a great selection of interesting carriers, and I thoroughly enjoyed reading.

- Cheers  
Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 16):
Somehow I expected a much great wow-factor with RJ, this was a little underwhelming

- I though they were ok, I went in not expecting a huge deal, as a result quite happy.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 16):
Lots of little things that probably cost little, but make a difference to the whole service e.g. A warm breakfast and a hot shower. Surly staff are the worst of it. Not bad, not exceptional.

- These little areas could be improved upon and would make a huge difference.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 16):
Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
The lounge has a cash bar, however I have a stamp on my boarding pass which allows free drinks.

What!? Why on earth were they not using One World lounge, and I am surprised at this cash bar measure in HK given reasonable price for alcohol here.

- I know, very odd!

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 16):
Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 1):
I must add most of the female cleaners were really hot!

Nice, nice observation, imagining thai beauties in ill-fitted cleaning outfits. Thanks...

- No worries!  
Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 16):
I am no expert on identifying aerial views normally on this website, but one view of yours caught my eye. The marina. I thought; hold on, that can't be on the dead sea, and then looking at, I recognised it to be Hertzlia Marina just outside Tel Aviv. I spent almost 2 weeks trying to hitch a boat back to Europe from here on my travels, so I know it all too well! Bought back strange emotions; but there you go - Hertliya Marina, Israel.

- Thanks, I though it looked nice, at least from the air!

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 17):
It seems you flew over Herzlia. And that white prop plane looks like Arkia. RJ seems like a nice airline. They participate in the BA Avios program so I may take them one day.

- RJ are in OW with BA & AA etc etc.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 18):
Well done my friend. An amazing TR, that makes a very strong point!

- Cheers Roni!

Quoting ronerone (Reply 18):
To be honest, i was quite shocked at the plummeting quality levels on RJ, in comparison to 2007/2008/2009 when i thought they were at their ultimate best.

- My first experience so I thought they were ok.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 18):
it does seem that we got the same 'software' as the crew were there but not there if you know what i mean.

- Indeed!

Quoting ronerone (Reply 18):
I am quite disappointed with RJ, as i expected a lot better out of them. If they want to be a global player, then the momentum should not stop after gaining Oneworld status. To me, it seems that they excelled once upon a time in order to get into Oneworld. But now that they're in, they think they can slack it off. And if they continue like this, they will go back into the legacy days of Alia.

- Let's hope this is as low as it goes, would be interesting to see what service was like in Y on these sectors.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 18):
I have yet to hear of, or experience, good service on RJ in Crown Class to and from Asia. However, fly them ex Dubai or London, and they will be on the ball (or close enough). And from your report, RJ continues to fit into this pattern. Quite bizarre, and i can't seem to understand it!

- You are right, the flight to LHR was better.

Quoting ronerone (Reply 18):
On that note, congratulations on finishing off your RTW! How was the jet lag afterwards?  

- Thanks - no jet lag, not sure how but glad!

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 19):
Great report, Thanks for sharing!

- Thanks, glad you enjoyed my trip.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 20):
I really like RJ's livery

- Me too, looks great.

Quoting palmjet (Reply 21):
Strange that in HK, a Oneworld stronghold with CX lounges everywhere, RJ would offer a common user lounge for its premium passengers.

- I know, you would have thought so!

Quoting palmjet (Reply 21):
The hardware on board the A330s looked very sound. Shame the the service seemed to be very inconsistent. I guess it's a feature with all airlines these days. I've explored the idea of using RJ on my next trip back to Oz flying with them to either HK or BKK and then down to Aus with QF. Thanks for the great insight.

- No worries, let's see if you choose them............

Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 22):
Good little series of trips - Bet you got a few OW miles for that too!

- Err yes  
Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 23):
pretty good to follow you´re final story.
Well written and nice pictures.

- Thanks Markus

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 23):
Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
I must add most of the female cleaners were really hot!

Hey, it´s BKK. I like it this way!.

- Yes, you were there not long ago, I'm sure you noticed  
Quoting Sultanils (Reply 24):
There are not too many RJ report around here, so this one is very welcomed

- Cheers & true, not so common as BA,LX,LH,SQ etc etc

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 24):
I very much like the livery on their planesn they indeed have something royalish over them with the black and gold.

- Agreed, one of the best oiut there IMO.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 24):
To be honest: I've seen nicer looking business class cabins, the use of colors appeared rather limited. Just some grey and blue monotones, not too inviting.

- It's quite toned down for sure.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 24):
Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
and the taxi’s all lined up by colour

Any idea why and what the colors mean?

- To be honest no, though I suspect it may be to do with the areas they serve.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 24):
Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
Galley area, not keen on these fake wooden floor finishes on planes

Nope, it looks cheap. Some golden seamed carpets would be more appropriate  

- Bling bling!  
Quoting Sultanils (Reply 24):
Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
I had planned a nice hot shower but they wanted $15!

What a rip-off! Some good deodorant performs mircacles in the situations  

- They sure do!

Quoting SR 103 (Reply 25):
Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
RJ use the Travelers Lounge, I guess because it is cheaper than using a OW partner lounge.

Thats a shame, so much for oneworld. In BKK RJ also use the Thai Airways lounge rather than any oneworld partner.

- It is odd, though I suspect the per passenger charge is less hence the use.

Quoting SR 103 (Reply 25):
Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 2):
The escalators to and from the Royal Jordanian lounge are very old and very noisy, thankfully they still worked!

That they are but thankfully the lounge is not bad. $15 for a shower is ridiculous though!

- Lounge is actually ok, despite being knackered I enjoyed my stay there.

Quoting SR 103 (Reply 25):
It looks like you had better luck with them than I did. Their soft product left a lot to be desired on my flight and their hard product was very inconsistent as well. After my exerience, I am in no hurry to try the again unless I really have to. Though since I rarely fly oneworld unless it is Cathay Pacific, I suspect I am not missing much

- CX or RJ, no question of who to travel with if a choice.

Quoting Thai744 (Reply 26):
Really nice trip report - I'm thinking of using RJ from HKG - BKK as their Biz class is so cheap on that sector and it's good for miles and status points with the QF FF program.

- Worth it for the miles and status for sure.

Quoting Thai744 (Reply 26):
Food looked... well.... cheap. Not up to J class standard. What's with that burger roll?? That's plain weird!

- I know, the burger roll is a just a joke, should not be seen near a JCL cabin.

Quoting Thai744 (Reply 26):
I think not offering a hot breakfast in J class on overnight flights is wrong too, but EK do this now too

- Interesting, EK cutting back too.

Quoting Thai744 (Reply 26):
Oh - that fruit with the white dots? Dragonfruit. Not much taste, but very healthy for you. Good for your digestion!

- I'll bear that in mind next time and eat the stuff, always thought it a bit of a waste of a fruit due to the lack of taste.

Quoting Thai744 (Reply 26):
Thanks for taking the time to do these reports!

- No worries, takes me a while some times due to lack of spare time.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 27):
Thanks for the last part of this interesting RTW series reports!

- Cheers Lars  
Quoting The777Man (Reply 27):
RJ looks quite good at least the meals although the cold breakfast must have been very disappointing. The best looking meal is the one from AMM to LHR.

- Agreed on all points!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 27):
Too bad the crews weren't that great; the crew is the most important factor for me if I enjoy a flight.

- This is so right, just a shame.

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 28):
Yet another great report from you

- Thanks

Quoting EL-AL (Reply 28):
Royal Jordanian JCL looks fantastic,

- I'd not go that far but it is ok.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 29):
great last part of your impressive series!

- Cheers PH.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 29):
RJ's J Class product looks decent, but not overwhelming

- Well observed.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 29):
Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
. The seats themselves are quite comfortable and the cabin ambience overall is fine, not bright and flashy more dull calming mixes of earthy tan and browns with blue and gray too, quite relaxing.

I agree - but I prefer TV screens being installed in the seatbacks.

- Agreed too, the rear of the seat in front is just dull looking too, put the TV in it to hide it!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 29):
Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
I had decided the red was corked and suggested she opened another bottle, it was clear she had no idea what corked meant,she explains to me it was a fresh bottle! I did dry to explain but to no avail, I asked for champagne to replace the red, after that she continued to offer top ups with the same bottle to the other side of the cabin, hmm.

Interesting - some basic knowledge about wine should be part of the training for FAs serving in J Class.

- You would have expected this, right?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 29):
Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
Galley area, not keen on these fake wooden floor finishes on planes

Hm, Jet Airways also had such a floor on the 77W and I found it nice. And it's probably easy to clean.

- I suspect they are, tDL have them in their 764's too.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 29):
Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
I managed to catch her and ask for more water and wine though by the time it arrived my meal was finished, most of it eaten without a drink of any kind to hand. Yes I could have used the call button to get attention but I'm not a fan of that, in JCL, service should be more attentive.

We had a similar issue on a recent EK flight in J Class.

- RJ are not alone then, a common problem.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 29):
Quoting ba319-131 (Thread starter):
No report complete without an A380 or two, these of course sat grounded due the QF strike action.

One of them had been scheduled to carry me - well, let's see what happens in May...

- Not far away now, let's see.

Quoting stipica (Reply 30):
Hi Mark !
the end of the trilogy ...ahhh ... but you have a good time and I am more than satisfied with reading material hehehe ...

- Cheers  
Quoting signol (Reply 31):
I think that this must be one of the shortest RTW trips I've seen! How tired were you afterwards?

- Was totally fine, went to the pub with the wife afterwards  
Quoting signol (Reply 31):
As others have said, a flight is made or broken by its crew, and unfortunately you don't seem to have had the best on board these RJ flights, a shame as otherwise the product looks very good.

- Reasonable product, easily improved by a few tweaks.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 32):
The lady in the traditional Jordanian dress is the Chief IIRC

- Ah, thanks Philip.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 32):
I love the RJ lounge at AMM and some nice snacks there. The showers being charged for are a bit weak if you ask me .

- Too right!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 32):
The grave yard at AMM with the LN and IA planes is lovely to see . Whats the AZ aircraft doing there ?

- Not sure, looked like they were being inspected.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 32):
It seems RJ offer a better product on the LHR service ? Thats the impressions I got from your photos anyway .

- Quite right, shows this route is more important to them.

Quoting jrn216 (Reply 33):
It’s interesting to read a report about Royal Jordanian

- Thanks, hope you enjoyed.

Quoting jrn216 (Reply 33):
I really enjoyed the pictures - the beef dish on the flight to Heathrow looks quite delicious, as does the salad!

- That was the best meal of the lot.

Quoting jrn216 (Reply 33):
I have always had high expectations of Royal Jordanian. From an enthusiast’s perspective the airline has always seemed to project an image of good Middle Eastern hospitality. I don’t think your report necessarily dents that image, but times have certainly changed and, in comparison to the other big players in the region, Royal Jordanian appears to have stagnated somewhat.

- Compared to others in the area, they do have some work to do to lift their game.

Quoting jrn216 (Reply 33):
I also liked seeing the pictures of the new Amman Airport terminal. I understand that the terminal is designed to look like Bedouin tents, which is nothing less than you would expect from Sir Norman Foster.

- It seems to be taking quite a while to build!

Cheers

Mark
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RE: Around The World With OW & ST - Part III - RJ

Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:39 am

Thanks for the trip report, it was an enjoyable read!
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RE: Around The World With OW & ST - Part III - RJ

Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:22 am

Hi Mark,

Great finish to the RTW. Interesting to compare with Anosh and Roni's flight with them from CMB-AMM. It's interesting that the LHR sector had the good crew and your other 2 flights didn't.

The meal offerings don't seem too bad on the long haul and LHR sectors.. It seems like they care far more about the LHR flight (and presumably US flights) than their Asian ones with the number of meal choices etc.

But it's always nice to see pleasant legs every now and then and that good service on some of these airlines does actually exist. I guess I might be trying them ex LHR rather than Asia though!


Thanks for completing another fascinating journey, time to comment on your other one!


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RE: Around The World With OW & ST - Part III - RJ

Sat May 05, 2012 2:21 pm

Quoting groobster (Reply 35):
Thanks for the trip report, it was an enjoyable read!

- Thanks, glad you enjoyed.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 36):
Great finish to the RTW

- Cheers Nicholas  
Quoting NZ107 (Reply 36):
Interesting to compare with Anosh and Roni's flight with them from CMB-AMM

- I know, things are not great at RJ, no quality control.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 36):
It's interesting that the LHR sector had the good crew and your other 2 flights didn't.

- Indeed, seems the LHR service and I presume the other European flights, have better crews/service.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 36):
The meal offerings don't seem too bad on the long haul and LHR sectors.. It seems like they care far more about the LHR flight (and presumably US flights) than their Asian ones with the number of meal choices etc.

- Indeed.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 36):
I guess I might be trying them ex LHR rather than Asia though!

- I think that's a better bet!

Cheers

Mark
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