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JAL JL 8: APR/12: NRT-BOS: Y/788: Inaugural

Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:38 pm

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* Unbiased view on how an actual traveler may view the flight
* Not a professional photographer (so please keep in mind)
* Commitment that the airline has no idea who I am





I > Background:
I will pause from my Canada reporting for this special report, and return thereafter.

First flights are always special – and I have had my share of them. Some have been for airlines I have worked for, or clients I have had; some, been to be part of history. When Japan Air Lines (JAL) announced their inaugural 787-8 destination as Boston, I knew I had to be part of it. Getting a seat was hard, and the more difficult part was whether it would all go as planned on April 22nd, 2012.

JAL had announced its NRT-BOS flight quite in advance. Yet, leading up, their 787 did not arrive until March 2012, and no proving flights were made … all quite unlike ANA. Rumors circled both in official and unofficial circles than a 777 would be the replacement metal for the flight, and inventory had been put in “all Y” for a while. I could not contact my official JL contacts as I felt it would be inappropriate on many levels. So, there I was. Two things worked in my favor … either way, I’d fly the first nonstop Asia-Boston flight, and the concept of saving “face” was important in many Asian countries. Furthermore, I took solace from the fact that the configuration remained 2-4-2 all the while leading to the departure.

I am going to bet (hehe) that this is the first report of JAL’s 787, JAL’s new NRT-BOS service, and the first coverage of the nonstop Asia-Boston link.

II > Pre-Flight:

a) Before Airport:
Japan Airlines Co., Ltd. (JAL) is one of Japan’s foremost airlines, and a pioneer in Asian aviation. An erstwhile “flag carrier”, JL’s main hubs are at Tokyo’s Narita and Haneda airports, with smaller hubs at Nagoya, and Osaka. Established in 1951, the airline was fully privatized in 1987 and had massive losses all until 2010. Thereafter a bankruptcy and turnaround strategy has led JAL to a dramatic turnaround as the airline continues to be one of the most profitable in the world. During this transformation, several “prestige” routes (such as GRU via JFK) were retired, and JAL went from becoming the largest 747 operator in the world to one without a single 747 in its fleet. The new JAL is poised for a great future with a nimble right-sized fleet ready to leverage its strengths and take on the world. The new 787 is a key part of that turnaround strategy with current plans include Boston (launched), Delhi (May 1), Moscow-DME (May 7), HND-Beijing (May 7), San Diego (December), and Helsinki (March 2013).

Booking was done as soon as it opened on JAL’s Americas website at (http://www.ar.jal.com/arl/en/) which has vastly improved over the years. Within a few clicks, I was able to book my ticket and receive e-tickets in the mail. I was even able to choose my seat, and modify it to my heart’s content. I was even able to request SSR’s – pretty much everything except the ability to change my ticket, which I consider a very advanced function. An interesting note (and advice) to fellow travelers – some sites report row 55 as a separate mini-cabin on the 787 for JAL. This does not exist in reality, so please do not book thinking you’d have some kind of special mini-cabin to yourself.

b) At Airport:
I could not book my flight to Japan until the very end as I had no idea where my consulting life would take me. Thankfully, I was still in Australia, and found a rather cheap flight on Malaysia Airlines. It was rather mediocre and I slept most of the time.

Tokyo was pretty neat for a night – it is such a great city. A very good friend of mine who works in aviation (and who I rarely see) was able to fly in en-route to HKG, and we had a crazy night out in Shinjuku … let’s just embarrass him by saying that he was glad he voided his earlier idea of trying a capsule hotel for the first time …

On the morning of the flight, I took the excellent Narita Express and arrived in NRT with the heart wondering if it would indeed be the 787. The night before, JAL’s flight status showed the aircraft as “EQV” and I had a nervous knot in my stomach. I think one of the supervisors at the check-in counter spotted my nervousness and the conversation ensured:

JAL: “May I help you sir?”
ME: “Yes. I am on the inaugural to Boston. Could you please tell me if it is a 787?”
JAL (Big smile): “Sir. Look there, and come with me”

Ms. JL was pointing to a big scale model of the 787, and various people in JAL uniform interacting with passengers and kids – there was a flight simulator and many opportunities to take photos. In true warm tradition, Ms. JL told me not to worry about check-in and handed me a captain’s cap and asked me to pose with the model! She also had a JAL worker overall and other clothes, hard hats, etc. In my nervousness, I had missed all this. Haha. There was a very festive atmosphere and with lots of pictures and stuff being taken. In fact, I later found out, JAL ground staff going around the airport offering stickers to kids, and hats for young ones to take pictures with. All pretty impressive! Breaking away from the festivity, Ms. JL took me to the counter and told the agent to make sure I have my preferred exit row seat. She showed me the seat map, and load was a full 100% (though, many NRSA’s I am sure). After printing the boarding pass, she bowed and said she was very proud of JAL and that she had waited for 4 years for this day. It was an incredible thing and her pride captured an overall sense of renewal and reenergized JAL that I felt throughout this special event.

Boarding pass in hand, I began to explore NRT and drifted towards music that was being played – reaching the area, I realized there was a whole JAL NRT-BOS launch concert! Somehow, in my nervousness, I had missed this entirely. As I walked through the terminal, I saw more of this – from displays talking about the new service, to people handing out stickers, etc. Immigration and security check was quick (the ENTIRE world needs to learn from the Japanese on how to deal efficiently and courteously with this) and I reached the gate area to see more signs and agents welcoming you to the 787. This was indeed going to be a special flight!

The 787 today would use a remote gate – so I took the escalator down to the bus gates and saw the entire area had been cordoned off, and there was basically an entire podium of speakers, events, food, etc. The paparazzi were out in full force – having been to many of these first flights, I can tell you, I have never seen more media coverage than at JAL. For me, the best part was all the employees who looked very happy and just proud of what JAL was embarking on. There was a true sense of the airline returning to being something special – and I was part of it!

After several speeches by dignitaries and ribbon cutting, boarding commenced with a bag of goodies given out. I will now claim fame as the first person to officially be boarded at the gate  … well, or to the waiting bus. The bus then took us to the remote stand where both the delivered 787’s were parked. There were several dignitaries from JAL and a lot of JAL employees who had made the entire thing possible. It was special and we were all greeted with smiles and tears and encouraged to board the plane.

As we entered, the entire crew kept bowing and welcoming us onboard. It was a festive feeling as I went to my exit row seat in the second cabin. The crew greeted me personally and briefed me on the exit procedure using my last name. Not bad in YCL. The entire process saw everyone take pictures and try out the various features of the aircraft.

30 minutes behind due to the fun boarding process (I felt bad for the crew), and the customary JAL crew bowing and welcoming, we were off the ground with a load of 100% in both cabins.

Airport - External:

(Narita Airport: Terminal 2)


Check-in:

(JAL Check-In: US Flights)

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(Special 787 Area)


Airport - Internal:



(Througout the airport, various events were marking this special flight)

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(All the “actors” in the 787 area)


(FIDS)

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(Post Security @ NRT)

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Scenes of the tarmac:

(Narita still has an incredible viewing gallery – perfect place to see the 787 action)

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Lounge

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Boarding:


(Gate Area – Crowds, Papparazzi’s, and Action)

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(Speeches & Ribbon)

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(Boarding)


(Gift bags)

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III> In-Flight:

a) Service Schedule + Impressions:
On each seat were blankets and headphones. Service included:
+ Hot towels after take-off
+ Drink service with Japanese crackers
+ Meal service with beverage
+ Another drink service
+ Café or tea service
+ Mid-flight snack
+ Pre-arrival Boston style light lunch

Throughout the flight, announcements were made by the Captain and crew on the significance of the flight and various parts of the cabin (like bathroom) had flags of Japan and USA as decoration. The crew were electric and the sense of history was present all throughout.

b) Aircraft + Seats:
JAL’s 787-8 is configured in a rather spacious 42J and 144Y (that is 186 seats vs. 254 of QR!) configuration in rather soothing and sophisticated colors. Naturally, the entire aircraft was in immaculate condition. I was impressed by the seat’s above industry recline, and the 33” pitch in non-exit rows was generous as well. The actual seat was on the harder side -- but I guess in today’s world, nothing as bad as those slim-line Recaro seats I loathe.

Other noticeable improvements include the ceiling which somehow recreates the magic of the original 707, the huge electric windows, and the bathrooms. I really liked the ability to control the temperature of the water, and the auto flush and auto lids of the toilet seat.

Aircraft:
(Our 787-8 @ NRT – and festivities around it)

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(Sister-ship)


(After disembarkation @ BOS – thanks for not collapsing en-route huh!)


Views from Aircraft:

(Traditional Japanese goodbye + all the dignitaries still there)


(Passing traffic)


(Water Cannon Goodbye)


(Farewell still in swing)


(Onlookers from Thailand)


(& France)


(View from wing – windows with shade on and off)

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General Seat Views + Seat Legroom

(Seat)


(Front of seat)


(Seat controls)


(Legroom)


Seat Recline + Angle View:

(Rather generous)


(Row across – general row)


Cabin:



(Note the ceiling)


(Front Y section)


(Around a brand new 787 – huge windows)


(Shade control)


(Look at the three windows to get a sense of the shades)


(Galley)

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(Decorations abound)

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(Ceiling)


(Bathroom – blue light when you open)


(I like the heating controls)

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(Blanket ++)


(J Class)


(Lots of paparazzi on this flight!)

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(And uber excited employees)


c) Meal + Beverage:
Drinks were first served and include several alcoholic choices including a very yummy plum wine which I consumed a LOT of. These were all served with nice Japanese snacks. For lunch, the main course included either chicken or pork. I chose the pork and was surprised by a rather tasty pork meal with rice and accompanying Japanese “stuff” which were all rather good.

During the meal service, several rounds of drinks were offered, and this was rounded off by a tea/café service. Finally, a Boston style ice-cream cookie was offered which was absolutely fantastic.

After the meal service, crew came by with bottles of water before turning the mood lighting to “sleep” mode. At the galley, several snacks and drinks offerings were set up, and midway through the flight, another drink run and pastry run was offered.

Around 1:45 prior to landing, a final meal service commenced which included a pretty good Boston clam Chadda (“accent” note – hehe), and a donut. Very impressively laid out with instruction on how to eat the Chadda.

Overall, rather impressive service in YCL with the quality of meals being truly top notch.

(Drinks Menu)


(Hot Towel Before Service)


(Drinks & Lunch)


(Lunch choices)


(Yummy!)


(Dessert)


(Water before light dim)


(Galley snacks)


(Snack break)


(Snack service)


(Pre-arrival meal)


d) Inflight Entertainment:
The first thing one notices about JAL’s Magic V system is the clarity of the screen with plenty of entertainment option including over 30 movies and a plethora of other options including rather odd “etiquette” videos, TV shows, music, and games. One thing that surprised me was the quality of the headset could be improved – which would not be an issue with single-prong headset brought from home. Moreover, the only weak spot in programming was the TV section which did not have the depth some other airlines have. The selection of movies was excellent however.

Along with this, the in-flight magazine could have been improved by increasing the quality and depth of the English language section. For a global airline, JAL must understand that its clientele is not only Japanese.

(Magic V)

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(Flight Plan & Interactive Maps)

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(Japanese video games for seat mate)


(Boston Arrival Video)


(“In-flight magazines”, Boarding Passes, etc.: Not too shabby – loved the postcards in the magazine)


e) Crew:
Flawless. Like other flights, the crew attained to every need of the guest in a pro-active manner. From being there at welcome with genuine smiles and offer with baggage storage to throughout the flight when every call was answered almost immediately and with a smile. In fact, this was probably one of the hardest working crew I have encountered recently given the demanding nature of this flight, and the 100% load. Every one of them was proud to be part of history and I did not ever see them not smile – there energy and enthusiasm was contagious. Unlike an experience on say First Air, I did not have any significant personal anecdotes due to the cultural nature of the Japanese, but one really moved me. I had really selfishly wanted the 787 on display and was ready to buy it – the crew went out of their way to check with Boston control and see if another one could be arranged and then at the end of the flight, presented it to me. How awesome!

IV> Post-Flight:
Arrival into Boston was amazing as history was made, and we were greeted by another traditional water salute (though, what’s up with not actually getting the aircraft wet?). As we pulled on to the gate, even the US CBP guys in the car were clicking pictures. Upon disembarkation, there was music act and off to immigration – which by the way, is the nicest and most efficient in the U.S. Within 10 minutes, I was landside with fellow passengers being interviewed by local TV.

(Arriving @ BOS with “escort”)

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V> Impressions + Scores:
First flights are always special – it is a sense of history being made. This was especially so because it represented a lot of hard work done by many to make it possible. I personally thought that the entire first flight production was done very well by Japan Air Lines. On board, the relevance of the flight was given due importance. The sense of excitement and hope – especially of the Narita ground staff made the event extra special.

On board, the quality and quantity of food was excellent with the cabin crew enhancing the overall effectiveness of service delivery. The in-flight entertainment system was good … though, not industry leading like SQ or EK. TV programming and headset quality did have room for improvements, along with the English section of the in-flight magazine. Finally, the lack of amenities was noteworthy – for a flight of this length, a small YCL amenity pouch would have been appreciated.

Finally, the small touches like in the bathroom and windows, etc. were appreciated in the 787. Personally, I think the “wow” factor of the aircraft will soon wear-off and it will be up to the promised economics to demonstrate how successful the aircraft can truly be. Will it end up like the 777, or the 757 is something that time will tell.

Overall, a great first flight and an unique experience. JAL delivered the wonderful first flight and the launch of a route like Boston is the perfect test-bed for the 787 economics. JAL gets two thumps up. An airline, I will continue to seek and fly due to its superior service.



VI> Other Trip Reports:

PREMIUM:
9.27: JET AIRWAYS **FIRST** (110): LHR-BOM: 10/2010
9.27: THAI AIRWAYS **FIRST** (108): BKK-LHR: 07/2010
8.66: Brussels Airlines (93): FIH-BRU: 01/2010
8.64: Turkish Airlines (59): JFK-IST: 11/2008
8.63: Jet Airways (88): JFK-BRU: 10/2009
8.61: Air Canada (49): YYZ-SCL: 06/2008
8.54: Turkish Airlines (77): GRU-DKR-IST: 04/2009
8.36: Kingfisher (98): BOM-HKG: 01/2010
8.30: Jet Airways (74): KWI-BOM: 04/2009
8.23: United Airlines (72): SFO-SYD: 03/2009
8.11: Aeroflot (33): MOW-DEL: 09/2007
8.05: Air India (80): CCU-JFK: 06/2009
8.04: Korean Air (40): NRT-ICN: 10/2007
8.02: Delta Airlines (24): JFK-CDG: 08/2007
7.82: UNITED AIRLINES **FIRST** (110): SFO-ICN: 10/2010
7.82: Singapore Airlines (06): EWR-SIN: 09/2006
7.66: Sri Lankan (104): DEL-CMB: 07/2010
7.64: Royal Jordanian (91): AMM-YUL: 12/2009
7.61: China Southern (103): LOS-DXB: 04/2010
7.57: Pakistan Airlines (102): ORD-BCN: 06/2010
7.46: LAN (55): YYZ-JFK: 09/2008
7.38: AMERICAN AIRLINES **FIRST** (112): LHR-JFK: 10/2010
7.38: CATHAY PACIFIC **FIRST** (109): HKG-LHR: 10/2010
7.25: Iran Air (88): BOM-IKA: 12/2009
7.23: Air Pacific (120): NAN-APW-HNL: 01/2011
7.23: Virgin Atlantic (81): BOS-LHR: 07/2009
7.14: Swiss (52): SCL-GRU: 06/2008
7.11: Aer Lingus (105): MAD-IAD: 05/2010
7.11: Austrian (79): VIE-JFK: 06/2009
7.07: Privatair (84): BOM-FRA: 08/2009
7.02: Qatar (68): DOH-JFK: 01/2009
6.96: Etihad (61): JFK-AUH: 12/2008
6.93: Delta Airlines (18): SEA-JFK: 11/2006
6.88: Egypt Air (123): LHR-CAI: 03/2011
6.84: ConViasa (65): CCS-DAM: 01/2009
6.82: Air Burkina (106): BKO-OUA: 06/2010
6.81: Air Canada (17): ICN-YYZ: 10/2006
6.75: Afriqiyah + Libyan (113): CAI-TIP: 11/2010
6.70: KLM (32): EBB-AMS: 08/2007
6.52: Emirates (99): LHR-DXB: 02/2010
6.39: South African (97): EZE-JNB: 01/2010
6.36: Privatair (60): MUC-BOS: 12/2008
6.29: TAM Brasil (96): POA-EZE: 02/2010
6.25: Korean Air (45): NAN-ICN: 10/2007
6.21: Iberia (87): BOS-MAD: 10/2009
6.11: A SKY (107): OUA-COO: 06/2010
6.11: TAP Portugal (53): GRU-OPO: 06/2008
6.00: Gulf Air (75): BOM-BAH: 04/2009
5.88: African Express (89): DXB-NBO: 11/2009
5.75: Singapore Airlines (16): CCU-SIN: 10/2006
5.64: SATA Azores (101): BOS-PDL: 04/2010
5.64: NorthWest (46): ICN-NRT-SEA: 10/2007
5.54: Ethiopian Airlines (95): ADD-BOM: 01/2010
5.46: Icelandair (83): KEF-BOS: 08/2009
5.39: LOT (54): WAW-JFK: 06/2008
5.21: Egypt Air (73): CAI-IST: 02/2009
5.11: Tunisair (115): TUN-ORY: 12/2010
5.07: TACA (66): JFK-SAP: 01/2009
4.89: TAAG Angola (117): TMS-LAD: 12/2010
4.42: Air France: CDG-JNB (25): 08/2007

ECONOMY: Long + Medium:
9.26: Air India (48): JFK-DEL: 02/2008
9.04: First Air (129): YEG-YFB: 06/2011
8.74: Japan Air Lines (130): 04/2012 / INAUGURAL
7.38: Avianca (01): BOG-LIM: 07/2006
7.07: Sri Lankan (62): KWI-CMB: 12/2008
7.00: LAN (94): IPC-SCL: 01/2010
6.81: STP Airways/Euro Atlantic (116): LIS-TMS: 12/2010
6.67: Air Malta (124): MLA-FRA: 04/2011
6.63: Vladavia (126): KHV-PEK: 06/2011
6.41: Air North (127): YEV-YEG: 06/2011
6.41: Avianca (78): JFK-BOG: 05/2009
6.41: American Airlines (58): LHR-BOS: 11/2008
6.39: Condor (85): SEZ-FRA: 09/2009
6.26: Jet Blue (21): CUN-JFK: 02/2007
6.11: Caribbean Airlines (119): POS-FLL: 01/2011
6.06: Air Canada (04): YYZ-YVR: 09/2006
5.89: USA 3000 (19): PUJ-BDL: 01/2007
5.85: Spanair (69): MAD-LPA: 02/2009
5.80: Canadian North (128): YEV-YVQ-YZF-YEG: 06/2011
5.79: Air New Zealand (42): RAR-NAN: 10/2007
5.52: Aerolineas (86): USH-AEP: 10/2009
5.46: TAP Air Portugal (23): OSL-LIS: 05/2007
5.19: Air Europa (70): LPA-MAD: 02/2009
5.16: Iberia (71): MAD-BOS: 02/2009
5.11: Air China (82): FRA-PEK: 08/2009
4.59: IR Aero (125): IKT-VVO: 06/2011

ECONOMY: Short
8.56: Paramount Airways (38): BLR-MAA: 09/2007
8.56: Kingfisher (64): HYD-CCU: 12/2008
8.24: Kingfisher (14): IXA-GAU: 10/2006
7.87: Indian (34): BOM-MAA: 09/2007
7.72: Alliance Air (13): CCU-IXA: 10/2006
7.57: Indian Airlines (10): DEL-CCU: 09/2006
7.23: West Jet (03): YYC-YVR: 09/2006
7.15: JetLite (37): BOM-GOI: 09/2007
6.98: Air Koryo (100): PEK-FNJ: 04/2010
6.70: Spice Jet (09): CCU-DEL: 09/2006
6.63: Air Fiji (44): NAN-SUV: 10/2007
6.63: Jazeera (67): DAM-KWI: 01/2009
6.58: Air Tran (02): EWR-MDW: 08/2006
6.48: Air India Express (63): CMB-MAA: 12/2008
6.44: CO Micronesia (39): ROR-YAP: 10/2007
6.41: Pacific Sun (43): NAN-SUV: 10/2007
6.37: Skybus (47): SWF-CMH: 02/2008
6.33: Kenya Airways (29): NBO-BJM: 08/2007
6.33: Sky Europe (56): LTN-BTS: 10/2008
6.31: Indigo (15): GAU-CCU: 10/2006
6.31: easyJet (57): BUD-LTN: 11/2008
6.22: Air Link Swazi (28): MTS-JNB: 08/2007
6.22: Air India (36): HYD-BOM: 09/2007
6.13: Adam Air (07): SIN-CGK: 09/2006
6.13: Air Rarotonga (41): RAR-AIT: 10/2007
6.04: Suriname Airways (118): PBM-POS: 01/2011
6.00: Transairways (27): INH-MPM: 08/2007
5.95: Air Canada (05): ALB-YYZ: 09/2006
5.85: SAS Norge (22): OSL-AES: 05/2007
5.81: LAM Mozambique (26): JNB-MPM: 08/2007
5.69: Air Deccan (12): IXZ-CCU: 10/2006
5.67: Rwanda Air Exp (30): KGL-NBO: 08/2007
5.52: Sevenair (114): TOE-TUN: 11/2010
5.37: Felix Airways (92): SCT-SAH: 12/2009
5.11: Aero Republica (76): BOG-CCS: 04/2009
5.07: Go Air (35): MAA-HYD: 09/2007
5.04: Biman (121): DAC-CGP: 01/2011
5.00: Sky Airline (51): IQQ-SCL: 06/2008
4.96: United Bangla (122): CGP-DAC: 01/2011
4.96: Valuair (08): CGK-SIN: 09/2006
4.78: Air Comet Chile (50): SCL-IQQ: 06/2008
4.74: Fly 540 (31): MYD-LAU: 08/2007
4.33: Viva Aerobus (20): ELP-MTY: 02/2007
4.11: Air Sahara (11): CCU-BOM: 09/2006

(Note on Codes: Y – Economy, J – Business, F – First :: I/D – International/Domestic :: SR/MR/LR – Short/Medium/Long Haul)
(Note on Date: Dates are modified to be +/- 3 days from actual flight date to not reveal actual flight pattern)

VII> Other Pictures:

(Gifts given for first flight)
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(Hand written card behind the business card)


(Weird noise at engine start)


(First take-off)
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RE: JAL JL 8: APR/12: NRT-BOS: Y/788: Inaugural

Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:06 pm

Alex,

You lucky SOB! What an incredible report! I enjoyed every minute of it! Was the 787 as quiet on takeoff as it seemed?

How on earth can you go on and on about the crew, and them not get a 10 from you?!?!

Again, terrific report, and thanks for sharing. The pictures were phenomenal.

Cheers,
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RE: JAL JL 8: APR/12: NRT-BOS: Y/788: Inaugural

Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:06 pm

Hi abrelosojos,

Many thanks for the very nice trip report on JAL 787 inaugural flight, great pictures! Really enjoyed reading it.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Drinks were first served and include several alcoholic choices including a very yummy plum wine which I consumed a LOT of

I absolutely love the plum wine too 
I think the food offering during the flight look fantastic! Crew sounds amazing as well!

Thanks for sharing this special flight,

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RE: JAL JL 8: APR/12: NRT-BOS: Y/788: Inaugural

Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:13 pm

Great report!

As one of the most respected trip-reporters here (at least by me). Having flown so much as you have, with so many different aircraft - all other things being equal how does the 787 rank with you in terms of passenger comfort?
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RE: JAL JL 8: APR/12: NRT-BOS: Y/788: Inaugural

Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:23 pm

Hi Alex,

Welcome to the 787 'flown' club  

Did you hear a slight electrical noise during the flight at all, I did on my ANA flight, not sure if it was my imagination or not....

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
The night before, JAL’s flight status showed the aircraft as “EQV” and I had a nervous knot in my stomach.

- I can imagine, must have been a huge relief when you got to the airport and the 787 was indeed running.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Narita still has an incredible viewing gallery – perfect place to see the 787 action

- You've got to love Japan for their viewings decks, if only the rest of the world would follow suit!

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
various parts of the cabin (like bathroom) had flags of Japan and USA as decoration

- Nice touch.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(Seat

- I prefer the ANA seat as it reclines in the shell.

Did the crew dim the shades during the flight like they did on my daytime ANA flight?

Cheers

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RE: JAL JL 8: APR/12: NRT-BOS: Y/788: Inaugural

Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:37 pm

I'm so jealous!  The photos are wonderful and the video clips are awesome. Thanks for sharing.
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RE: JAL JL 8: APR/12: NRT-BOS: Y/788: Inaugural

Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:40 pm

wow wow wow!
What a trip report. Extremely well done as usual from you.

This is one great product from JAL on the trans pacific route. Still one of the neatest out there.
Food look amazing and very Japanese, taste? I'm not quite sure.
I love world cuisine but sometimes Japanese catering gave me wrong impression of wonderful Japanese food.

A lot of memorable items on this inaugural flight, nice extra touch again.

Recaro seats are looking strong and Germanic as usual! Love them. Wonder who is the manufacturer of PTV and controller installed as they are same as those on Air China's B77Ws.

Snack bar looks so cute! I love the Green tea in green boxes! Too bad they cut down the small EVAIN bottle in Economy.

I kinda feel this 787 service on JAL is somewhat better than ANA service HND-FRA.
Or maybe it's the way you presented out there!! I have to try both and compare  

Thank you very much for sharing this special report.
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Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:05 pm

Hi Alex,

I was wondering what you'd cook up next... and yes, a very nice report, certainly  
Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Getting a seat was hard, and the more difficult part was whether it would all go as planned on April 22nd, 2012.

Well, I suppose it did, luckily for you, and for all of us, really  
Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Two things worked in my favor … either way, I’d fly the first nonstop Asia-Boston flight, and the concept of saving “face” was important in many Asian countries. Furthermore, I took solace from the fact that the configuration remained 2-4-2 all the while leading to the departure.

2-4-2 is a good indication of this, no doubt. There's something more special about the 787, I think you'll agree.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
On the morning of the flight, I took the excellent Narita Express and arrived in NRT with the heart wondering if it would indeed be the 787. The night before, JAL’s flight status showed the aircraft as “EQV” and I had a nervous knot in my stomach. I think one of the supervisors at the check-in counter spotted my nervousness and the conversation ensured:

JAL: “May I help you sir?”
ME: “Yes. I am on the inaugural to Boston. Could you please tell me if it is a 787?”
JAL (Big smile): “Sir. Look there, and come with me”

Glad to see the staff takes pride in their new deliveries, as they should!

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
After printing the boarding pass, she bowed and said she was very proud of JAL and that she had waited for 4 years for this day. It was an incredible thing and her pride captured an overall sense of renewal and reenergized JAL that I felt throughout this special event.

This is excellent. You really get used to professional yet not excited ground agents. Something like this will always be special going forward...

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
The 787 today would use a remote gate – so I took the escalator down to the bus gates and saw the entire area had been cordoned off, and there was basically an entire podium of speakers, events, food, etc. The paparazzi were out in full force – having been to many of these first flights, I can tell you, I have never seen more media coverage than at JAL.

Somehow, a remote gate for this sort of flight is much more appropriate, in my opinion... Well, as long as it's not, quite literally, raining on the parade  

Well, what I know about Japan... they like their gadgets. I suppose that includes the 787  
Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
As we entered, the entire crew kept bowing and welcoming us onboard. It was a festive feeling as I went to my exit row seat in the second cabin. The crew greeted me personally and briefed me on the exit procedure using my last name. Not bad in YCL. The entire process saw everyone take pictures and try out the various features of the aircraft.

Impressive service for Y, indeed. Of course it's a special flight... but maybe that's not the only reason  
Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
JAL’s 787-8 is configured in a rather spacious 42J and 144Y (that is 186 seats vs. 254 of QR!) configuration in rather soothing and sophisticated colors.

That's a very good configuration. I believe it will prove rather rare...

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(Shade control)

Good to see this... Do you believe me that's the most interesting thing about the 787 to me, due to not much available information on it?  
Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Drinks were first served and include several alcoholic choices including a very yummy plum wine which I consumed a LOT of. These were all served with nice Japanese snacks. For lunch, the main course included either chicken or pork. I chose the pork and was surprised by a rather tasty pork meal with rice and accompanying Japanese “stuff” which were all rather good.

Overall, rather impressive service in YCL with the quality of meals being truly top notch.

It certainly looks that way; can't find a problem with the meals from the pictures, for sure. Seems like an excellent flight, overall.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Flawless. Like other flights, the crew attained to every need of the guest in a pro-active manner. From being there at welcome with genuine smiles and offer with baggage storage to throughout the flight when every call was answered almost immediately and with a smile. In fact, this was probably one of the hardest working crew I have encountered recently given the demanding nature of this flight, and the 100% load.

Excellent service.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Upon disembarkation, there was music act and off to immigration – which by the way, is the nicest and most efficient in the U.S.

Ah, you believe so, too? It certainly was painless last time I entered the US in BOS. Two times ago, I don't remember because my AF flight was delayed 4 hours and I arrived at 2 am.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
On board, the quality and quantity of food was excellent with the cabin crew enhancing the overall effectiveness of service delivery. The in-flight entertainment system was good … though, not industry leading like SQ or EK. TV programming and headset quality did have room for improvements, along with the English section of the in-flight magazine. Finally, the lack of amenities was noteworthy – for a flight of this length, a small YCL amenity pouch would have been appreciated.

Finally, the small touches like in the bathroom and windows, etc. were appreciated in the 787. Personally, I think the “wow” factor of the aircraft will soon wear-off and it will be up to the promised economics to demonstrate how successful the aircraft can truly be. Will it end up like the 777, or the 757 is something that time will tell.

I suppose that amenity pouches would've been appreciated... but in Y, I'm not sure if there is still an expectation for such "gifts"...

The 787 IMO is a bit of niche aircraft... A comparison with the 757 is not unwarranted IMO.


Thanks for writing this up and posting it so quickly! I certainly enjoyed reading it!
 
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Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:06 pm

Alex
Absolutely wonderful TR. Thanx to sharing and my compliments to have been part of the first flight
I am happy to see JAL going up after the period of dismissing routes like MXP where for me is always a big void left and all the meals look like very very yummy
Another time gracias
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Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:06 pm

Hello abrelosojos!

I'm new on A-net. Thank you for sharing your unique experience.
I was in NRT on 22 April for take another JL flight
and had similar experence in Special 787 area!
Very friendly JL maintenace crew gave me detailed information of 787.
I saw your take-off from observation deck of terminal 1.

Here is some photos of inaugural day.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kochikaze/sets/72157629871528817/

Thanks again for your great report.

Saludos,

Kochi
 
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Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:40 pm

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 1):
You lucky SOB! What an incredible report! I enjoyed every minute of it! Was the 787 as quiet on takeoff as it seemed?

= It was quiet on take-off ... but there was a weird noise at start and during taxi. Mark, did you notice this as well?

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 1):
How on earth can you go on and on about the crew, and them not get a 10 from you?!?!

= Well, the ground crew for check-in etc. were extra special and got a 10. The in-flight crew were flawless and thus got a 9 ... a 10 is usually reserved when crew keep doing extra special things. I struggled with this one BTW.

Quoting win1290 (Reply 2):

Hi abrelosojos,

Many thanks for the very nice trip report on JAL 787 inaugural flight, great pictures! Really enjoyed reading it.

= I am glad you enjoyed.

Quoting win1290 (Reply 2):
I absolutely love the plum wine too 

= Do you prefer it on the rocks, or straight up?

Quoting mt99 (Reply 3):
Great report!

As one of the most respected trip-reporters here (at least by me). Having flown so much as you have, with so many different aircraft - all other things being equal how does the 787 rank with you in terms of passenger comfort?

= Thanks so much for the kind words. Personally, I felt the 787 felt like any other aircraft -- in JAL's configuration, it was nice. But, any aircraft could be configured this way.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 4):
Did you hear a slight electrical noise during the flight at all, I did on my ANA flight, not sure if it was my imagination or not....

= OMG. Yes. I totally did - I thought I was just tired. Did you also notice a loud sound during taxi and pushback?

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 4):
- You've got to love Japan for their viewings decks, if only the rest of the world would follow suit!

= Agreed!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 4):
- I prefer the ANA seat as it reclines in the shell.

= We have to disagree - unless the seats recline, I am not a huge fan. Mind you, I am tainted by the horrible CX YCL seats.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 4):
Did the crew dim the shades during the flight like they did on my daytime ANA flight?

= Crew dimmed it, but you could still see out. Was this different on ANA?

Quoting foppishbum (Reply 5):
I'm so jealous!  The photos are wonderful and the video clips are awesome. Thanks for sharing.

= You're welcome.

Quoting nethkt (Reply 6):
wow wow wow!
What a trip report. Extremely well done as usual from you.

= Thanks a lot.

Quoting nethkt (Reply 6):
This is one great product from JAL on the trans pacific route. Still one of the neatest out there.
Food look amazing and very Japanese, taste? I'm not quite sure.
I love world cuisine but sometimes Japanese catering gave me wrong impression of wonderful Japanese food.

= Food tasted awesome.

Quoting nethkt (Reply 6):
Snack bar looks so cute! I love the Green tea in green boxes! Too bad they cut down the small EVAIN bottle in Economy.

= I am not a huge fan of Evian - for the taste, and for environmental reasons -- so I was OK with this. Yes, the Green Tea is awesome no?

Quoting nethkt (Reply 6):
I kinda feel this 787 service on JAL is somewhat better than ANA service HND-FRA.
Or maybe it's the way you presented out there!! I have to try both and compare  

= You will have to write a report on both and judge. At least, there are some reports on ANA out there to compare for now.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 7):

Hi Alex,

I was wondering what you'd cook up next... and yes, a very nice report, certainly  

= Glad to not disappoint  .

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 7):
2-4-2 is a good indication of this, no doubt. There's something more special about the 787, I think you'll agree.

= Yes. But, I think the success of the program will depend on if it can meet the promised KPI's.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 7):
Somehow, a remote gate for this sort of flight is much more appropriate, in my opinion... Well, as long as it's not, quite literally, raining on the parade  

= Agreed.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 7):
Impressive service for Y, indeed. Of course it's a special flight... but maybe that's not the only reason  

= I asked and was told that the only change would be the Boston candy replaced by icecream, and the second meal choice not being chowder.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 7):
That's a very good configuration. I believe it will prove rather rare...

= Do you think they can maintain? I have a feeling it might change ...

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 7):

It certainly looks that way; can't find a problem with the meals from the pictures, for sure. Seems like an excellent flight, overall.

= It was!

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 7):
Ah, you believe so, too? It certainly was painless last time I entered the US in BOS. Two times ago, I don't remember because my AF flight was delayed 4 hours and I arrived at 2 am.

= BOS is my absolute favorite in the U.S. SFO might come second, but BOS is way high up ...

Quoting nethkt (Reply 6):
I suppose that amenity pouches would've been appreciated... but in Y, I'm not sure if there is still an expectation for such "gifts"...

= Amenity kits in YCL are relatively easy to find in many Asian carriers no?

Quoting mxp (Reply 8):
Alex
Absolutely wonderful TR. Thanx to sharing and my compliments to have been part of the first flight
I am happy to see JAL going up after the period of dismissing routes like MXP where for me is always a big void left and all the meals look like very very yummy
Another time gracias
Alberto

= Gracias Alberto - I do think MXP is up for additional JL flights.

Quoting Kochikaze (Reply 9):
Hello abrelosojos!

I'm new on A-net. Thank you for sharing your unique experience.
I was in NRT on 22 April for take another JL flight
and had similar experence in Special 787 area!
Very friendly JL maintenace crew gave me detailed information of 787.
I saw your take-off from observation deck of terminal 1.

Here is some photos of inaugural day.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kochikaze/sets/72157629871528817/

Thanks again for your great report.

Saludos,

Kochi

= Thanks Kochi. I wonder if I saw you at the viewing deck? What camera did you have?

Thanks a lot for reading everyone.

Saludos,
A.
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Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:52 pm

Hi abrelosojos,

Wow. Another great trip report from you. You have the most incredible itineraries and seem to hop around the world with such frequency. I wonder how many miles you have passed in the air?

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Throughout the flight, announcements were made by the Captain and crew on the significance of the flight and various parts of the cabin (like bathroom) had flags of Japan and USA as decoration. The crew were electric and the sense of history was present all throughout.

Good to hear that there was real excitement about this and that the airline, as well as the airports on both sides, gave the flight the attention it deserves. In this day and age, when so many take aviation for granted, it is nice to know that there is still some wonder and awe in the experience, at least on special occasions.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):

(View from wing – windows with shade on and off)

I love the look of that wing!

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(Dessert)

Wow, a Boston-themed dessert. They really planned everything, didn't they.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Within 10 minutes, I was landside with fellow passengers being interviewed by local TV.

Again, nice to hear that there was so much enthusiasm for this.

Thanks for sharing. Looking forward to your next reports.

Cheers,
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Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:05 pm

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
I am going to bet (hehe) that this is the first report of JAL’s 787, JAL’s new NRT-BOS service, and the first coverage of the nonstop Asia-Boston link.

Our mutual friend did not inform me you would be doing this!

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Tokyo was pretty neat for a night – it is such a great city. A very good friend of mine who works in aviation (and who I rarely see) was able to fly in en-route to HKG, and we had a crazy night out in Shinjuku … let’s just embarrass him by saying that he was glad he voided his earlier idea of trying a capsule hotel for the first time …

 
Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
As we entered, the entire crew kept bowing and welcoming us onboard. It was a festive feeling as I went to my exit row seat in the second cabin

I love this. I love watching the JAL flight board at T3 from ORD. The professionalism of the crew is unbelieveable.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Around 1:45 prior to landing, a final meal service commenced which included a pretty good Boston clam Chadda (“accent” note – hehe), and a donut. Very impressively laid out with instruction on how to eat the Chadda.

"Chadda" sounds like an Indian surname. "Chowdah!" is a bit more accurate imitation of the Bahhhstin-style accent  
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Finally, the small touches like in the bathroom and windows, etc. were appreciated in the 787. Personally, I think the “wow” factor of the aircraft will soon wear-off and it will be up to the promised economics to demonstrate how successful the aircraft can truly be. Will it end up like the 777, or the 757 is something that time will tell.

Really, you think so? I still feel like flying an A380 would make me feel like a celebrity...but then again, I am confined to my non-A380 playground in the Midwest. You have yet to produce an A380 TR!

Thank you so much for this report, Alex. We need to get you in a premium seat soon on the 787 and get a TR from that!

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Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:12 pm

Hi Alex,

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 10):
Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 4):
Did you hear a slight electrical noise during the flight at all, I did on my ANA flight, not sure if it was my imagination or not....

= OMG. Yes. I totally did - I thought I was just tired. Did you also notice a loud sound during taxi and pushback?

- Good, glad it's not just me! - Re the loud sound during taxi and push, yep, heard that too, this plane makes funny noises!

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 10):
Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 4):
Did the crew dim the shades during the flight like they did on my daytime ANA flight?

= Crew dimmed it, but you could still see out. Was this different on ANA?

- You could see out but it was very limited, impossible to make out stars or see any landscape below.

Cheers

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Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:26 pm

WOW! WOW WOW, I cannot wait to fly on the 787, but for me I hope that'll be with BA, so a few more years!

It looks impressive, the crew looked fantastic and JAL is an airline I've always had a soft spot for! The real question is, how will the 787 perform now the hype is over?

Looking at the videos - that wing looks incredibly light! Look at it flex!

Great photos and great report as always! I look forward to reading more Canadian reports from you!
 
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Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:47 pm

Hey Alex, great report!

Really seems like you had a fantastic flight on JAL and the 787. The service looked amazing for Economy class, especially the food. Although I'd still say that ANA has the lead, their meals in YCL look much more well presented, and the seat design more innovative.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
I will pause from my Canada reporting for this special report, and return thereafter.

Really, you're not done with those reports yet! When will we see Lufthansa JCL? 
Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
let’s just embarrass him by saying that he was glad he voided his earlier idea of trying a capsule hotel for the first time …

Hehe, well good to know I didn't chose a capsule hotel for my stay in Tokyo then  
Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(J Class)

Hmm, quite surprised to see them opt for such an outdated JCL hard product on such a brand new plane. Industry average these days is 180 degrees full flat, but hopefully JAL have some plans in introducing those seats in the future?

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Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:24 pm

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
First flights are always special – and I have had my share of them. Some have been for airlines I have worked for, or clients I have had; some, been to be part of history. When Japan Air Lines (JAL) announced their inaugural 787-8 destination as Boston, I knew I had to be part of it. Getting a seat was hard, and the more difficult part was whether it would all go as planned on April 22nd, 2012.

I had no idea JL had got their first 787 - good to hear more are coming on line after everyone's waited so long. The JL ships looks great in their new/old livery - I love the crane!

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):

JAL: “May I help you sir?”
ME: “Yes. I am on the inaugural to Boston. Could you please tell me if it is a 787?”
JAL (Big smile): “Sir. Look there, and come with me”

Lucky it all went accorindgly to plan. From the sounds of it, JL knew it would run the 787 for a long time.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Immigration and security check was quick (the ENTIRE world needs to learn from the Japanese on how to deal efficiently and courteously with this)

I waited over an hour at NRT immigration a few years ago - my longest ever.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(All the “actors” in the 787 area)

Wow, there's a lot of staff

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(Decorations abound)

I love the 'real' moving map
http://my.flightmemory.com/shefgab Upcoming flights: LHR-CDG,LHR-BKK-AKL-TBU,EUA-TBU-NAN-WLG,WHK-AKL-BKK-LHR
 
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Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:35 pm

Thank you very much for an excellent inaugural flight!

JAL does a good job with the Boeing 787 and the economy class cabin is more spacious than ANA (well I am only with the domestic version and I am sure ANA international 787 is a bit better). The cabin looks smart and the upholstery of the seats are beautiful. It is nice that you are able to get an exit row.

I am also glad that JAL provides so many snacks in Y and the pastry looks good. The pre-arrival meal looks wonderful. But it will be nice if they can provide a real printed menu (at least for the inaugural flights).

The inaugural gift bag looks good but surprised at the lady handbag though... it must be a sponsor thing.

Thanks again for sharing and this trip report has brightened my day.

Thanks,
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Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:00 am

Excellent coverage of the JAL 787 Inaugraul! Looks like a great flight was had. JAL's Y product looks excellent, and looks to compete head to head with ANA's top Y offering!

Thanks for sharing. Great photos of the trip and of the interior of the aircraft!

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Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:20 am

Quoting BZNPilot (Reply 11):
Wow. Another great trip report from you. You have the most incredible itineraries and seem to hop around the world with such frequency. I wonder how many miles you have passed in the air?

= I have had my share of flying  . BTW, what does your handle stand for? I am curious.

Quoting BZNPilot (Reply 11):
Good to hear that there was real excitement about this and that the airline, as well as the airports on both sides, gave the flight the attention it deserves. In this day and age, when so many take aviation for granted, it is nice to know that there is still some wonder and awe in the experience, at least on special occasions.

= Agreed!

Quoting BZNPilot (Reply 11):
Wow, a Boston-themed dessert. They really planned everything, didn't they.

= No. I was also impressed with the clam chowder they served - they were able to carry it off particularly well.

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 12):
Our mutual friend did not inform me you would be doing this!

= Our mutual friend is a little too stressed signing code share deals and coming up with random destinations.

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 12):
  

= Do you know what I am referring to here?

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 12):
"Chadda" sounds like an Indian surname. "Chowdah!" is a bit more accurate imitation of the Bahhhstin-style accent  

= LOL. OK.

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 12):
Really, you think so? I still feel like flying an A380 would make me feel like a celebrity...but then again, I am confined to my non-A380 playground in the Midwest. You have yet to produce an A380 TR!

= I am deeply offended by you -- check out:

Emirates EK 2: 12/FEB/10: LHR-DXB: J Cabin (by abrelosojos Jun 2 2010 in Trip Reports)

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 12):
Thank you so much for this report, Alex. We need to get you in a premium seat soon on the 787 and get a TR from that!

= Aah ... got a few in the pipe line to satisfy you.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 13):
- Good, glad it's not just me! - Re the loud sound during taxi and push, yep, heard that too, this plane makes funny noises!

= Haha. Any engineers out there to explain these noises?

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 13):
- You could see out but it was very limited, impossible to make out stars or see any landscape below.

= BTW, what did you think of the window? For as much as its size, I actually found the placement of the windows to be slightly higher than I would prefer.

Quoting planejamie (Reply 14):
WOW! WOW WOW, I cannot wait to fly on the 787, but for me I hope that'll be with BA, so a few more years!

= I am hoping a TR is granted?

Quoting planejamie (Reply 14):
Looking at the videos - that wing looks incredibly light! Look at it flex!

= Isn't it insane? One of the craziest views is looking across the aisles and seeing the raked wings ... you barely see those in a conventional aircraft.

Quoting planejamie (Reply 14):
Great photos and great report as always! I look forward to reading more Canadian reports from you!

= Stay tuned!

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 15):
Really seems like you had a fantastic flight on JAL and the 787. The service looked amazing for Economy class, especially the food. Although I'd still say that ANA has the lead, their meals in YCL look much more well presented, and the seat design more innovative.

= Maybe SK can learn a lesson  ? I am actually a bigger fan of the JL seats -- unless I am missing something, isn't the NH seats like CX?

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 15):
Really, you're not done with those reports yet! When will we see Lufthansa JCL? 

= Don't worry ... I have a LH JCL report just for you! It is something rather exotic.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 15):
Hehe, well good to know I didn't chose a capsule hotel for my stay in Tokyo then  

= Haha ... Jonas, tell us details ...

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 15):
Hmm, quite surprised to see them opt for such an outdated JCL hard product on such a brand new plane. Industry average these days is 180 degrees full flat, but hopefully JAL have some plans in introducing those seats in the future?

= Actually, can someone confirm if the seats are indeed only lie-flat?

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 16):
The JL ships looks great in their new/old livery - I love the crane!

= Me too. Up close, the livery looks much better than what I expected from the pictures.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 16):
Lucky it all went accorindgly to plan. From the sounds of it, JL knew it would run the 787 for a long time.

= Ya. Surprising as there were no FAM flights. JAL knew of it, but the delivery date was uncertain.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 16):
I waited over an hour at NRT immigration a few years ago - my longest ever.

= Wow. You must have had an odd day ... most people (including myself) find NRT Immigration quick, efficient, and courteous.

Quoting Carfield (Reply 17):

Thank you very much for an excellent inaugural flight!

= You are welcome.

Quoting Carfield (Reply 17):
(well I am only with the domestic version and I am sure ANA international 787 is a bit better).

= I would assume so as the JL version has some 20 odd extra seats.

Quoting Carfield (Reply 17):
The inaugural gift bag looks good but surprised at the lady handbag though... it must be a sponsor thing.

= I agree ... it was a tad disappointing as I wondered what a man would do with it.

Quoting 767747 (Reply 18):

Excellent coverage of the JAL 787 Inaugraul! Looks like a great flight was had. JAL's Y product looks excellent, and looks to compete head to head with ANA's top Y offering!

Thanks for sharing. Great photos of the trip and of the interior of the aircraft!

Best,

Matthew (767747)

= Thanks Matthew.

Saludos,
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Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:32 am

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 10):


Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 7):

Hi Alex,

I was wondering what you'd cook up next... and yes, a very nice report, certainly  

= Glad to not disappoint  .

You, disappoint? Never  
Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 10):


Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 7):
2-4-2 is a good indication of this, no doubt. There's something more special about the 787, I think you'll agree.

= Yes. But, I think the success of the program will depend on if it can meet the promised KPI's.

For sure... that's what it comes down to these days, certainly...

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 10):


= I asked and was told that the only change would be the Boston candy replaced by icecream, and the second meal choice not being chowder.

Fair enough... I think that's pretty good offering. I wouldn't be disappointed on a 12-hr flight....

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 10):

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 7):
That's a very good configuration. I believe it will prove rather rare...

= Do you think they can maintain? I have a feeling it might change ...

I don't know.... if anyone can pull it off, it's JAL and ANA... I'm guessing it might change, eventually, once people will quit paying a premium for the aircraft (NH's domestic flights with 787s are a bit more expensive than those with other aircraft, I think).

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 10):

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 7):
Ah, you believe so, too? It certainly was painless last time I entered the US in BOS. Two times ago, I don't remember because my AF flight was delayed 4 hours and I arrived at 2 am.

= BOS is my absolute favorite in the U.S. SFO might come second, but BOS is way high up ...

Good to know. It seems we have similar tastes in airports. LOL.

BTW: This quote:

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Commitment that the airline has no idea who I am

reminds me of that joke about the irate passenger screaming to the agent, "do you have any idea who I am?"... You probably know what I'm referring to; it's a pretty old joke  
 
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Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:35 am

Hi Alex,

excellent report! And an inaugural with plenty more pomp and ceremony than the others I've recently read on here, Norwegian and Ryanair   Well done on JAL for getting the mood right, and making things happen. With the attitude of helping the customer, and having things for the kids (hats, models..) they are growing a new generation of enthusiats.

The flight looks great, yummy food (I do like Japanese food). Did the crew block out the windows at all like the ANA crew on another 787 flight?

Thanks for the insight!

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Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:19 am

Great trip report, I would love to fly the 787 myself. I did see it when I was in Seattle a year ago, and will have to look for it next time I'm near BOS. I love all of the excitement about the flight to BOS, even on the other side of the world they know how great we are, it makes me feel like we are truly a world class city.
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Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:59 am

Hi Alex

Nice trip report, thanks for sharing!
Good catch getting a 787 inaugural from NRT to BOS.
I had rather mixed feelings about the 787 ar first, but now I'm starting to see some advantages as well.
However, I still don't find it that much more roomy than the 777.
Y looks to be very comfortable on JAL as well.

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Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:10 am

Hi Alex,

What a surprise to see you flying Y long haul again! I'd have expected a J TR from you really.  

The JAL first B787 flight is pretty well planned. I'm sure you felt special on the inaugural! I also love the fact that you board at a remote gate instead of from the jetway. Makes you able to get nearer to the aircraft. Wouldn't it be even nicer if the B787 was in the "rising sun" livery?

Exit row legroom looks pretty impressive. Did you book that online or was it assigned at check-in? I'd think they might charge a premium for such seats like what even full service airlines (e.g. CX and SQ) are doing. The cabin colour scheme looks very pleasing to the eye and I certainly wouldn't mind a 12 hour flight in that.

I am also pretty impressed by the extensive drinks menu. Lunch looks delicious too! Much like what you'd get in a cute Japanese restaurant.

Hope to see more TRs from you in the future, as always!

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Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:34 am

Hi Alex !

Thanks for an amazing report with very nice pictures ! VERY nice to be able to fly on a inaugural flight; first Asia-to-BOS flight AND 787! Very good that JL did not change from 787 to 777 or anything else.

Aircraft looks very nice including the seats. The colors reminds me of AZ have (had?) on their 777s. Meals look great and nice with snack in the galley as well.

Great of the crew to give you a 787 model!

Very much looking forward to flying the 787, probably later this year.

Very much looking forward to your next report!

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Wed Apr 25, 2012 10:23 am

Hi Alex,

Great to see you got on the 787 early. Great TR as always - must feel good to get the first JL 787 one!

Food looks great, seats look comfortable.. I'm eager to try out that window myself.

Most interesting about those noises.. I wonder if it's Boeing's equivalent of the barking dog noises on the A32x family.  Wink I believe they're 2 videos you tried posting at the end of the report - is there a better link to try to view them from?

Anyway I found this youtube clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sarC6RHmA48 - there's a really high pitched sound too.. Anything familiar from your experience?

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
the more difficult part was whether it would all go as planned on April 22nd, 2012.

I know that feeling.. You're lucky they didn't do an Air NZ and switch the plane to another flight like what they did with the 77W inaugural!

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Flawless. Like other flights, the crew attained to every need of the guest in a pro-active manner. From being there at welcome with genuine smiles and offer with baggage storage to throughout the flight when every call was answered almost immediately and with a smile. In fact, this was probably one of the hardest working crew I have encountered recently given the demanding nature of this flight, and the 100% load. Every one of them was proud to be part of history and I did not ever see them not smile – there energy and enthusiasm was contagious. Unlike an experience on say First Air, I did not have any significant personal anecdotes due to the cultural nature of the Japanese, but one really moved me. I had really selfishly wanted the 787 on display and was ready to buy it – the crew went out of their way to check with Boston control and see if another one could be arranged and then at the end of the flight, presented it to me. How awesome!

Fantastic, just like you want to hear. I'm now interested in trying JL out sometime.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Personally, I think the “wow” factor of the aircraft will soon wear-off

You never know - I believe there's still a 'wow' factor surrounding the A380. But I do suppose that the 787 is far smaller and all. It's only in service with 2 airlines as well so many haven't had the chance to witness its beauty.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 10):
Mind you, I am tainted by the horrible CX YCL seats.

You're not alone there!


Thanks a lot for sharing this experience with us!


Cheers,
Nicholas

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Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:50 pm

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 19):

= I wonder if I saw you at the viewing deck? What camera did you have?

Thank you for reply, abrelosojos.
I was exactly same place with you, and had just small point-and-shoot camera.
But I saw only one Thai guy with large photo equipment at deck of terminal 2.
Around boarding time of JL8, almost photographer moved to terminal 1.

I love JL's plum wine too   on the rocks !

Saludos

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Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:55 pm

Hi Alex,

great report about this special flight. JL's 787 interior looks nicer than NH's, but I guess the seats get dirty quickly. One cannot complain about the catering, I wouldn't mind trying JL on a long-haul flight.

As for the livery - horrible, simply horrible.


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Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:15 pm

I had no idea JAL were so good in Y. Good to know.
 
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Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:42 pm

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 10):
Quoting win1290 (Reply 2):
I absolutely love the plum wine too 

= Do you prefer it on the rocks, or straight up?

Usually had it straight up, but once tried on the rocks, always have it on the rocks 

Regards,
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Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:56 pm

OMG Alex,

You have rightly claimed being the first reporter of JL 787 inaugural and successfully captured every single moment of the joyful festivity. Thanks a lot!   


Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
She also had a JAL worker overall and other clothes, hard hats, etc

Did you have a photo with her? If I were you, I would be excited to be on the picture with her as one of many proud JL ambassadors.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
The crew greeted me personally and briefed me on the exit procedure using my last name. Not bad in YCL.

Could it be typical JL? Or 787 in particular? When I was seated at an emergency exit row seat on board of BA last September, no one briefed me on the exit procedure?

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Aircraft:
(Our 787-8 @ NRT – and festivities around it

What a relief! Free photography without being told off!

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(Seat controls)

Did you notice battery charger somewhere?

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(Shade control)
Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(Bathroom – blue light when you open)

Cool!  Wow!


Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(I like the heating controls)

Lovely! Is it standard 787 design or typical JL?

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(And uber excited employees)

That’s the spirit! 


Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
including a very yummy plum wine which I consumed a LOT of.

It would have been my choice as well, along with sake!

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(Lunch choices)

Look how the flight attendant show you what the lovely menu card had on offer.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(Yummy!)

     


Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(Flight Plan & Interactive Maps)

Very A.net minded!


Thanks again for sharing.

Best wishes,
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Wed Apr 25, 2012 7:59 pm

Hi again abrelosojos,

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 19):
BTW, what does your handle stand for? I am curious.

BZN=the code of my home-town airport (Bozeman).
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Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:32 am

WOW ALEX! You continue to amaze me with the quality of your reports, and more importantly, the depth of coverage you offer. This is outstanding and I am glad you enjoyed your time on JAL. No one on A.Net can match the diversity of your reports, and I do appreciate the disclaimer for objective reviews as so many of A.Net reports these days from professional photographers are paid advertisement for airlines. Sad really.

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Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:41 am

Hi Alex

What a super report - and a great experience to be part of. You can certainly rely on the Japanese to recognise an important aviation event, such as this one. I enjoyed all of your pics too. Thanks for bringing this to us so fast!

I've only flown JAL domestically and those experiences were incredibly positive. On the MD90 flight we took from Hiroshima to Sapporo, when the crew found out there were two non Japanese speakers onboard, the cabin crew and cockpit crew announcements were changed, to include English announcements as well. We were also offered English language newspapers. Crews were very friendly and the aircraft were immaculate inside and out.

Apart from the ability of the crew to "enforce" dimmed window shades during day time flights on the 787 (which I know I am going to hate), I am really keen to try out JAL's 787. If HEL becomes one of the new 787 destinations, it will be quite tempting to route myself to Australia via HEL and NRT!

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Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:53 am

Hi Alex

Great report as usual, and well done getting an early 787 logbook entry, as well as a great inaugural!!

I note your comment about working in Australia - are you still here, because i'd love to catch up if you have the time! Feel free to drop me an email if you're keen!

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Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:57 am

Hiya, Alex.

Wow, impressive stuff. Now I definitely understand what you meant by your comment to an amazing inaugural flight! But I guess you had all the ingredients for the perfect inaugural flight: a new plane type and destination for a Japanese carrier, they are known to be obsessed about these kind of things and never fail to give out a proper celebration ceremony when one is due plus as a destination in the US who of course are masters in the celebration game as well!

Everything looked very impressive and impeccable. Hope they will manage to keep this service afloat for a long time. It was sad to see the cuts JAL had to do a couple of years ago, they were quite drastic and crippled a good part of its (European) network. But now they seem to be inching they way back, and yes, I'm very much looking forward to that HEL service next spring!
 
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Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:59 am

Quoting kiramakora (Reply 33):
I do appreciate the disclaimer for objective reviews as so many of A.Net reports these days from professional photographers are paid advertisement for airlines.

Excuse me? That's a ridiculous statement. Can you please elaborate - examples? It seems you have no clue about the vast majority of reports here.


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Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 36):
yes, I'm very much looking forward to that HEL service next spring!

Perhaps you should try that, maybe even the inaugural   ?

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Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:34 am

Hello Alex, great report as usual.

Thinking of your TRs, yesterday in ABJ I've taken over the flight of the senior purser of your FIH-DLA-BRU trip.
You left him some great memories !

Hoping you give a try to our new product soon.

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Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:02 pm

The JAL 787 looks way nicer inside then the ANA one, far more fresh and open. Also curious to see the same seats as the new BA WT product and IFE!
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Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:02 pm

Hi Alex,

A fantastic report for sure, that took me a bit off guard, being unfamiliar with the fact JAL had launched their 787. Certainly they didn't get nearly the same coverage as ANA as the launch customer - now I understand why it is an important privilege.

JAL looked superb, all enhanced by the Japanese enthusiasm for their bird. Quite wonderful to see, and impressively personal.

On specific photos; I thought the catering looked great, and the seats really attractive on the eye. I found the sequence of photos between the bigger, old hand photographer and the smaller, gawky one quite humorous. I don't think I am endeared to the new JAL livery. It looks like one you might see on those cheap models of a plane for kids. It also seems to make the 787 look stubby! Likely I am seeing things... beautiful on the inside though.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 19):
Personally, I think the “wow” factor of the aircraft will soon wear-off and it will be up to the promised economics to demonstrate how successful the aircraft can truly be

At least it still seems to be riding on a novelty wave. The A380 has had a long novelty affect in general. People are still enthused about it.

Once again, superb stuff.

Luke

Quoting kiramakora (Reply 33):
so many of A.Net reports these days from professional photographers are paid advertisement for airlines. Sad really.

Yes, so many - the forum is teeming. If you have a little time, could you private message me a list of those reporters you suspect are covert photographers hired by airlines?
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Sat Apr 28, 2012 10:15 pm

Hi Alex!

What an amazing report once again! You just keep on amazing me! Seems like the Dreamliner is as good as told. Can't wait to try out a 787!

Look forward to your next report!

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Hallo!

I am just amazed at the pics that you have posted. I hope you had a great time. I now cannot wait to fly the 787!! Thank you for posting it!

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Sun Apr 29, 2012 5:15 pm

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 20):
You, disappoint? Never  

= Haha. The pressure to perform  .

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 20):
I don't know.... if anyone can pull it off, it's JAL and ANA... I'm guessing it might change, eventually, once people will quit paying a premium for the aircraft (NH's domestic flights with 787s are a bit more expensive than those with other aircraft, I think).

= You know - despite what some airline executives might say publicly, there is very scant data I have seen that shows aircraft type generating different yields with everything remaining constant. I gave access to quite a few routes on the 388 vs. 744, and there really is no difference ... of course, cabin product and schedule being held constant. Us, A.Nutters are of course a different breed  .

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 20):

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Commitment that the airline has no idea who I am

reminds me of that joke about the irate passenger screaming to the agent, "do you have any idea who I am?"... You probably know what I'm referring to; it's a pretty old joke  

= Absolutely  . That is kinda funny. I wrote that because I have got quite a few emails from people on A.Net asking me either whether I would do a report for a particular airline (everything paid, etc.), or clarifying if I got paid. I thus thought it was best to clarify that at no point during a report do I disclose that I am going to post a review on it. Don't think that is appropriate.

Quoting signol (Reply 21):
Hi Alex,

excellent report! And an inaugural with plenty more pomp and ceremony than the others I've recently read on here, Norwegian and Ryanair  

= You know what's funny ... I did a Skybus inaugural once, and they had a whole cake and food and announcements and stuff!

Quoting signol (Reply 21):
The flight looks great, yummy food (I do like Japanese food). Did the crew block out the windows at all like the ANA crew on another 787 flight?

Thanks for the insight!

signol

= No. They dimmed it, but did not block it. Also, I initially thought that blocking would make there be no view ... there is a view, it is just tainted  .

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 22):
Great trip report, I would love to fly the 787 myself. I did see it when I was in Seattle a year ago, and will have to look for it next time I'm near BOS. I love all of the excitement about the flight to BOS, even on the other side of the world they know how great we are, it makes me feel like we are truly a world class city.

= Boston is indeed a fantastic city ... along with Washington DC and Chicago, my 3 favorites in the U.S.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 23):
Hi Alex

Nice trip report, thanks for sharing!
Good catch getting a 787 inaugural from NRT to BOS.
I had rather mixed feelings about the 787 ar first, but now I'm starting to see some advantages as well.
However, I still don't find it that much more roomy than the 777.
Y looks to be very comfortable on JAL as well.

Greetings
Marc

= Why do you have mixed feelings about the 787 Marc?

Quoting initious (Reply 24):

What a surprise to see you flying Y long haul again! I'd have expected a J TR from you really.  

= I try to mix it up once in a while   ...

Quoting initious (Reply 24):
Makes you able to get nearer to the aircraft. Wouldn't it be even nicer if the B787 was in the "rising sun" livery?

= You know. Reading some of the comments here, I think I am the only one who actually likes JAL's livery. I was not a huge fan when it was announced, but seeing it up close on the 787, I changed my mind. I am a fan of the "crane", thought would have preferred a cheat line.

Quoting initious (Reply 24):
Exit row legroom looks pretty impressive. Did you book that online or was it assigned at check-in? I'd think they might charge a premium for such seats like what even full service airlines (e.g. CX and SQ) are doing. The cabin colour scheme looks very pleasing to the eye and I certainly wouldn't mind a 12 hour flight in that.

= JAL does not charge for Exit Row seating (yet) like CX and SQ, and it is available for elite oneWorld fliers.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 25):
Thanks for an amazing report with very nice pictures ! VERY nice to be able to fly on a inaugural flight; first Asia-to-BOS flight AND 787! Very good that JL did not change from 787 to 777 or anything else.

= Any plans of moving on to flying all the 787 operators   ...

Quoting The777Man (Reply 25):
Very much looking forward to flying the 787, probably later this year.

= On UAL?

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 26):
reat to see you got on the 787 early. Great TR as always - must feel good to get the first JL 787 one!

= It did indeed  . BTW mate, flying NZ in June   ...

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 26):
Most interesting about those noises.. I wonder if it's Boeing's equivalent of the barking dog noises on the A32x family.   I believe they're 2 videos you tried posting at the end of the report - is there a better link to try to view them from?

= Any recommendations for a site where I should upload the video?

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 26):
Anyway I found this youtube clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sarC6RHmA48 - there's a really high pitched sound too.. Anything familiar from your experience?

= OMG!!! This is exactly the noise. Does anyone know what this is, and if it "normal"? It might have been exaggerated for me as I was in the exit roe?

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 26):
I know that feeling.. You're lucky they didn't do an Air NZ and switch the plane to another flight like what they did with the 77W inaugural!

= What happened?

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 26):
You never know - I believe there's still a 'wow' factor surrounding the A380. But I do suppose that the 787 is far smaller and all. It's only in service with 2 airlines as well so many haven't had the chance to witness its beauty.

= See above  .

Quoting Kochikaze (Reply 27):
Thank you for reply, abrelosojos.
I was exactly same place with you, and had just small point-and-shoot camera.
But I saw only one Thai guy with large photo equipment at deck of terminal 2.
Around boarding time of JL8, almost photographer moved to terminal 1.

I love JL's plum wine too   on the rocks !

Saludos

Kochi

= Yes Kochi, on the rocks for sure  . Well, I am definitely not Thai, and so am trying to place who you were. The only guy I remember seeing with a small point and shoot was at the end of the viewing deck - at the corner?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 28):
great report about this special flight. JL's 787 interior looks nicer than NH's, but I guess the seats get dirty quickly. One cannot complain about the catering, I wouldn't mind trying JL on a long-haul flight.

As for the livery - horrible, simply horrible.


PH

= Haha. PH, come on ... the livery looks nice!

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 29):
I had no idea JAL were so good in Y. Good to know.

= They have been consistently good IMHO.

Quoting win1290 (Reply 30):
Usually had it straight up, but once tried on the rocks, always have it on the rocks 

Regards,
Win

= Agreed Win.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 31):
OMG Alex,

You have rightly claimed being the first reporter of JL 787 inaugural and successfully captured every single moment of the joyful festivity. Thanks a lot!   

= You're welcome ... unlike you, I don't have all these JCL reports   ...

Quoting akhmad (Reply 31):
Did you have a photo with her? If I were you, I would be excited to be on the picture with her as one of many proud JL ambassadors.

= I do have a picture with them ...

Quoting akhmad (Reply 31):
Could it be typical JL? Or 787 in particular? When I was seated at an emergency exit row seat on board of BA last September, no one briefed me on the exit procedure?

= Usually, most airlines are required by law to brief exit row occupants ... JAL is the only one that has briefed me by name.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 31):
Did you notice battery charger somewhere?

= Did not notice in YCL ...

Quoting kiramakora (Reply 33):
No one on A.Net can match the diversity of your reports, and I do appreciate the disclaimer for objective reviews as so many of A.Net reports these days from professional photographers are paid advertisement for airlines. Sad really.

= I don't think this is true ... while there are a few reporters who work for airlines and write on them, I personally don't think this applies to the community at large.

Quoting palmjet (Reply 34):
hat a super report - and a great experience to be part of. You can certainly rely on the Japanese to recognise an important aviation event, such as this one. I enjoyed all of your pics too. Thanks for bringing this to us so fast!

= Anytime  . I am becoming as efficient as a Japanese  !

Quoting palmjet (Reply 34):
I've only flown JAL domestically and those experiences were incredibly positive. On the MD90 flight we took from Hiroshima to Sapporo, when the crew found out there were two non Japanese speakers onboard, the cabin crew and cockpit crew announcements were changed, to include English announcements as well. We were also offered English language newspapers. Crews were very friendly and the aircraft were immaculate inside and out.

= Not bad.

Quoting palmjet (Reply 34):
If HEL becomes one of the new 787 destinations, it will be quite tempting to route myself to Australia via HEL and NRT!

Thanks again - Palmjet

= What is up with your "random" flying on the Kangaroo route!?! You are singlehandedly destroying QF's business model   ...

Quoting Aussie_ (Reply 35):
I note your comment about working in Australia - are you still here, because i'd love to catch up if you have the time! Feel free to drop me an email if you're keen!

Alex (aussie_)

= Alex, Australia is a rather large country! Where are you? And yes, I am here a lot more than I thought ...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 36):
Hiya, Alex.

Wow, impressive stuff. Now I definitely understand what you meant by your comment to an amazing inaugural flight! But I guess you had all the ingredients for the perfect inaugural flight: a new plane type and destination for a Japanese carrier, they are known to be obsessed about these kind of things and never fail to give out a proper celebration ceremony when one is due plus as a destination in the US who of course are masters in the celebration game as well!

= Haha. Do you think your favourite Norwegian would do something when their first 787 arrives and they go long haul?

Quoting Flying Belgian (Reply 39):

Hello Alex, great report as usual.

Thinking of your TRs, yesterday in ABJ I've taken over the flight of the senior purser of your FIH-DLA-BRU trip.
You left him some great memories !

Hoping you give a try to our new product soon.

Cheers,

= I have plans for later in the year ... DLA-BRU. Wait what? Does the purser actually read the report?

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 41):
A fantastic report for sure, that took me a bit off guard, being unfamiliar with the fact JAL had launched their 787. Certainly they didn't get nearly the same coverage as ANA as the launch customer - now I understand why it is an important privilege.

= I am glad I could surprise!

Quoting SRQKEF (Reply 42):

Hi Alex!

What an amazing report once again! You just keep on amazing me! Seems like the Dreamliner is as good as told. Can't wait to try out a 787!

Look forward to your next report!

regards, Sveinn

= Sveinn, totally worth it. How are things in Iceland?

Quoting LFutia (Reply 43):
Hallo!

I am just amazed at the pics that you have posted. I hope you had a great time. I now cannot wait to fly the 787!! Thank you for posting it!

Leo/ORD

= Anytime.

Thanks for stopping by everyone.

Saludos,
A.
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Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:19 pm

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 44):
Any plans of moving on to flying all the 787 operators   ...

No. There are still some airlines to yet take delivery of their first 777 like Garuda Indonesia and Turkmenistan Airlines.

Also time to discover a lot of different countries now   Hope to visit 50 more countries in the next 10 years.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 44):
On UAL?

Yes; first route should be IAH-LAX-IAH so a nice day trip in store for me. No, no trip report from me on my employer.

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Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:18 am

Quoting The777Man (Reply 45):
No. There are still some airlines to yet take delivery of their first 777 like Garuda Indonesia and Turkmenistan Airlines.

= Going to Turkmenistan is one of my dreams ... and I'd be so envious!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 45):
Yes; first route should be IAH-LAX-IAH so a nice day trip in store for me. No, no trip report from me on my employer.

The777Man

= Smart move on the later  . Do you know when first flight is?

Saludos,
A.
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Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:00 am

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 46):
Going to Turkmenistan is one of my dreams ... and I'd be so envious!

Yes, I'm very curious about going there. Seems a lot like North Korea with a strong cult of personality of their leaders....but yet they fly Boeing aircraft.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 46):
. Do you know when first flight is?

No idea. So many delays. Thought they'd be in service by July this year but no idea now when that will happen. There are five already "built" but needs to be finished by Boeing. Still, looking forward to the flight whenever it happens.

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RE: JAL JL 8: APR/12: NRT-BOS: Y/788: Inaugural

Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:31 am

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 44):
BTW mate, flying NZ in June

Are you passing through AKL at all or are you doing one of those 5th freedoms which don't come close to NZ?  
Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 44):

= Any recommendations for a site where I should upload the video?

I was thinking maybe Flickr if you didn't want to upload to Youtube.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 44):
OMG!!! This is exactly the noise. Does anyone know what this is, and if it "normal"? It might have been exaggerated for me as I was in the exit roe?

Eek. In that case, I'm really wondering if I want to fly that jet. Prolonged exposure to high frequency noises like that impairs your hearing! Was that heard throughout the flight or were there other noises heard during flight which weren't quite the same?

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 44):
I know that feeling.. You're lucky they didn't do an Air NZ and switch the plane to another flight like what they did with the 77W inaugural!

= What happened?
Y+ Spaceseat, The Trial: NZ 77W Inaugural AKL-MEL (by NZ107 Feb 25 2011 in Trip Reports) - the opening post  

But in short, they had AKL-BNE planned as the route a few months before the inaugural. A few weeks after booking, I checked the seat map and it had changed to a 772 because they decided to send the 77W to MEL instead. And then the weekend before the flight, they pushed back the inaugural by a day (no reason, the plane had been sitting on the ground at AKL for about 3 weeks by then). So a frantic change of flights ensued (so thankful for knowing staff members, thanks to this site) to secure a seat on that inaugural.


Cheers,
Nicholas
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RE: JAL JL 8: APR/12: NRT-BOS: Y/788: Inaugural

Tue May 01, 2012 4:57 am

Hi Alex,

Wow, another of your excellent reports. And that too an inaugural flight. Nice!!

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
found a rather cheap flight on Malaysia Airlines. It was rather mediocre and I slept most of the time.

Not very happy to hear that from you. I just hope it was sleepiness that caused you to think this way. Not like MH really.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
On the morning of the flight, I took the excellent Narita Express and arrived in NRT with the heart wondering if it would indeed be the 787. The night before, JAL’s flight status showed the aircraft as “EQV” and I had a nervous knot in my stomach. I think one of the supervisors at the check-in counter spotted my nervousness and the conversation ensured:

Almost like heading out to the airport and wondering if you will get that window seat!!

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
the best part was all the employees who looked very happy and just proud of what JAL was embarking on. There was a true sense of the airline returning to being something special – and I was part of it!

You were definitely part of history here, and to a new beginning with JAL and their 787s. Also the rebirth of the crane logo which I recall drawing as a kid on planes, however now many years later re-introduced with that awful white fuselage.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(Speeches & Ribbon)

Was that a celebrity figure? Seems fairly young and funky shoes to match!

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Gift bags

I noticed the usual type of gift bags on the floor, and the other one you pictured in your final few photos of the one that is featured on the table, and looks more like a lady's handbag. How did you manage to get that one.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
I had really selfishly wanted the 787 on display and was ready to buy it – the crew went out of their way to check with Boston control and see if another one could be arranged and then at the end of the flight, presented it to me. How awesome!

Was this the one that is displayed in flight below the posters. Not very likely as that one seems very tiny!!

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
the huge electric windows, and the bathrooms. I really liked the ability to control the temperature of the water, and the auto flush and auto lids of the toilet seat.
Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(I like the heating controls)

Those look really nice, auto lids too for the toilet seats  
Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(Traditional Japanese goodbye + all the dignitaries still there)

Such a cultured lot!! Nothing like the Japanese and Koreans, so high tech and advanced, yet still maintaining years of tradition and culture and etiquette.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(View from wing – windows with shade on and off)
Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(Around a brand new 787 – huge windows)
Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):

(Look at the three windows to get a sense of the shades)
Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(Shade control)

These shades could be the downfall of the 787 for crazy people like me who absolutely have to be control freaks with the window shades. As Mark indicated on his ANA 787 flight that he had absolutely no control over them. I guess you could in some regards. It seems to have five levels of shade, the darkest being that awful all black or is it just darkened and apppears that way, with limited viewing. Gorgeous large windows yes, but again what point if you can't look out of them.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
The first thing one notices about JAL’s Magic V system is the clarity of the screen with plenty of entertainment option including over 30 movies and a plethora of other options including rather odd “etiquette” videos,

Ah there we have it....etiquette videos. lol. Had a Japanese FA flying back from vacation, with me on my Etihad flight and she told me a lot about the Japanese culture!!

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
e) Crew:
Flawless. Like other flights, the crew attained to every need of the guest in a pro-active manner. From being there at welcome with genuine smiles and offer with baggage storage to throughout the flight when every call was answered almost immediately and with a smile.

Well you were flying with an Asian carrier were you not! They seemed to have got a 9 from you too.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(Pre-arrival meal)

How appropriate Boston Clam Chowder...yumm!! I guess it was really good too as you indicated.

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