gabrielchew
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Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Sat May 12, 2012 12:28 pm

Part 11: Thai Airways Royal First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Welcome to the eleventh part of my spring trip to Asia! (Have I broken a record for the most parts yet?)

The entire map (courtesy of GC mapper):
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This report’s map (courtesy of GC mapper):
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Previous flights in this series:
easyJet London Luton-Barcelona (LTN-BCN)
Singapore Airlines Barcelona-Singapore (BCN-SIN), Business Class on the 77W
Valuair/Jetstar Asia Singapore-Medan
Garuda Indonesia Medan-Banda Aceh
Sriwijiaya Airlines B734 Banda Aceh-Medan-Jakarta with a fuel “expulsion”
Lion Air Boeing 737-900ER Jakarta-Singapore
Singapore Airlines A330 Business Class Singapore-Calcutta
SpiceJet B739 Calcutta-Bagdogra
Jet Konnect B738 Bagdogra-Calcutta
Biman Bangladesh DC10 Calcutta-Dhaka
United Airways ATR Dhaka-Cox’s Bazar
Regent Airways Dash Chittagong-Dhaka
Biman Bangladesh A310 Dhaka-Kathmandu
Yeti Airlines “Everest Express” on the J41
THAI Airways Kathmandu-Bangkok, B772 Business Class

Flights to come:
Sun-Air (British Airways) Dusseldorf-Billund (DUS-BLL)
Sun-Air (British Airways) Billund-Manchester (BLL-MAN)
British Airways Manchester-London Heathrow (MAN-LHR)

*** Just to warn you, this section has even more photos than normal. Enjoy! ***

Picking up where I left off, I safety arrived at Bangkok Hotel #1. Bangkok is probably the best place in the world to enjoy bargain accommodation. The Thai Baht isn’t terribly strong right now, and the country is excellent value anyway. Combined with a rash of newly built hotels, and a very competitive and high quality market, you’d have to be blind not to find some great hotel deals. For various reasons I ended up staying in 4 hotels over my 5 nights. I know, quite ridiculous, but there we go. (Honestly, there were good reasons for such extensive hotel changing!)

Bangkok Hotel #1, Furama Xclusive Silom. GBP 27/night including breakfast.
Trip Advisor, #151 of 674 hotels in Bangkok
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Bangkok Hotel #2, Le Meridien. GBP 83/night
Trip Advisor, #10 of 674 hotels in Bangkok
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Nice lobby table


Tasty chocolate in the room
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Wonderful views
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Outside


Poolside
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Bangkok Hotel #3, Feung Nakorn Rooms. GBP 28/night including breakfast
Trip Advisor, #20 of 674 hotels in Bangkok
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Bangkok Hotel #4, Baan K residence by Blison. GBP 40/night including breakfast
Trip Advisor, #6 of 674 hotels in Bangkok
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After my cycles in Kathmandu and Cox’s Bazar, I was in the mood for a bit more cycling. I was originally planning on doing a 1 night trip out into the country, but in the end settled for 2 day trips (well, a day trip and a night trip). For the night cycle around Chinatown/Royal Palace I used Co Van Kessel Tours. There was just one other person on the tour, a Dutch girl. She was on her second ever night in Asia – I couldn’t imagine being so new to Asia…I did envy her I must say, it must be so amazing your first time out here with all the sights and sounds and smells and food and shopping….(have I sold it to anyone who hasn’t been yet??!)
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The other tour was run by Spice Roads, and was a day trip to the Bangkok Jungle (aka Bang Kachao). I had no idea there was a massive swampy green undeveloped area in central Bangkok. It really felt like we were miles from the city. Magical!
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We stopped at the floating market too, which had some tasty snacks
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Of course there’s more to Bangkok that hotel hopping and cycling. There’s shopping:

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Hunting for elephant cushion covers
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And eating:
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Dodgy clubs:



And some culture in the form of the Reclining Buddha

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And not forgetting the tuk tuks

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I was also lucky enough to meet up with A.net member Win1290 for a very nice lunch before his flight back to London. Was great to meet you Win!

A few nights before my flight back to Europe, I logged onto the TG wesbite to select my “Book the Cook” for the first meal service. There was an impressive range of some 40 dishes, complete with pictures. Here’s a selection:

Lobster Thermidor
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Phad Thai with lobster
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Sushi
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Duck with noodles
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Stir fried beef in black pepper sauce
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I had initally selected the duck with noodles (which was reccomened by thaia345), but in the end went with the lobster on the premise that I normally eat duck about five times a year versus my “few times a decade” with lobster. I also wanted compare the SQ and TGs versions.
http://my.flightmemory.com/shefgab Upcoming flights: LHR-BKK-AKL-TBU-NAN-WLG,WHK-AKL-BKK-LHR
 
gabrielchew
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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Sat May 12, 2012 12:30 pm

***Just before I pressed “Post” I realised that I haven’t actually mentioned anything about the logic behind my flights since Report #1. Sorry. So, the point of the trip was to visit a friend in Jakarta. Because of the funny way the BD miles work, it was half the price to fly into the Indian sub-continent than the Far East directly. As such, I booked to fly into Calcutta via Singapore. On the way back I wanted something a little different. As Bangladesh (my main sub-Continent destination) is counted as being in the Far East zone, I needed to fly out of somewhere else. After a bit of searching, I decided that my deparutre airport should be Kathmandu.

Thai is the only Star Alliance airline flying from the airport, and obviously they go to Bangkok. As I still had a fair chunk of BD miles left, I wanted to use them for a return flgiht to Europe in First Class. I wanted a daytime flight back to somewhere I wanted to go. The only *A routes with F are CDG, FRA, MUC, LHR and ZRH. After checking the availbilites on the dates I wanted, I plumped with FRA on TG, mainly as they used the leased 77W with private suites in First on the lunchtime flight. As chance would have it, Milesaddict was booked on the same flight in First the day before me – would have been cool to fly together, but it didn’t work out. Now, I didn’t want to go to Frankfurt especially, so where else? I’d always wanted to have a ride on Jetstream (which I had since flown on in the Himalayas). The only easy route I knew of in Europe was operated by British Airways’ Denmark based subsidiary Sun Air. Most of their fleet is Dornier 328s, but they did operate the Jetstream 31 on the Dusseldorf-Billund route. I thought I might as well catch it whilst it was still operating (I don’t think it’ll be around much longer), so booked my connecting flight from Frankfurt to Dusseldorf to join the two.***

On the morning of my departure, I once again decided in favour of a taxi over the train. As you can see from the meter, it was a bit slow going at first (3 minutes to go less than 100m), but in the end the journey wasn’t too bad.
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The taxi pulled up outside the terminal at just before 10am, giving me nearly three hours to enjoy the lounges. After reading Abrelosojos’ wonderful report about the Thai First Class service in BKK, I was really looking forward to the airport experience. The first point of contact for First passengers should be the porter service from the curb. Unfortunately, taxis are directed to the outer curb, so I had to do a bit of walking to find a porter (of which I could see none).
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Thankfully, just as I was entering the building, I met a porter coming the other way, and commandeered his trolley to take me to check in. What happened next was definitely the most serene check in experience of my life. My bags were wheeled off to a screened off area, whilst I was escorted to a collection of arm chairs. Within a few seconds of sitting down, a beautifully folded cold towel, and some very tasty tea-like drink were placed on the table.
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I was then left in peace to enjoy the drink whilst my boarding pass was issued. I say left in peace… I couldn’t actually see anyone at all, which was a nice experience in a busy airport. A few minutes later a lady came from behind the screen, introduced herself, and then proceeded to walk me over to security, which took less than a minute. Next was immigration, where again there was no line, and I was through in seconds. Thankfully since my last trip to Thailand, the departure tax has now been absorbed into the ticket price/tax, so there is no need to hang on to a wad of cash to pay before immigration. I was then shown down an escalator onto a waiting mini golf buggy.
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We sped off down a little passageway between the Business lounge and the corridor – I imagine it would be a bit off putting for the C pax sat with their backs to us. Before long we had pulled up to the desk entrance.
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I was greeted by name, and escorted to a private room.
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Of course, within seconds of sitting down I had some more juice/tea drink, and another cold towel.
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A menu was brought, along with my request of a glass of sparkling water.
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Being a real fan of massages, obviously I wanted to give the spa a whirl. Of course the number one rule of having a body massage is to not eat beforehand, so I declined any food, and asked for them to book a massage instead.
“When would you like your massage sir?”
“Right now”
“No problem”

I was asked if I wanted to keep my bag in the private room, but I thought I might as well hang onto it (It had my laptop in, and wasn’t terribly heavy). I was escorted out of the lounge, and over to the other side of the corridor.

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In the Spa I was greeted again, and invited to take a seat whilst the room was prepared. Once again, I got offered a cold towel and drink
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A few minutes later, my masseuse appeared, and lead me to a corridor roped off with a nice “Royal First Passengers only” sign. The massage room was far nicer than I had imagined – very nicely done Thai!
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I was asked what massage I wanted. I went with the hour long “Touch of Silk”, the spa’s flagship treatment, and only available to First class passengers.


I won’t bore you with the details, but the massage was an hour of airport luxury! (And no, there was no happy ending). With the massage done, I thanked my masseuse, and enjoyed a shower in the adjacent room, before heading back to the spa’s lounge. There was a little cordoned off area for First class passengers, where I was invited to sit in. I was given a survey to fill in, whilst I had a peppermint tea and some snacks.
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Strangely, the lounges have been designed so that the main F and C lounges are facing “inland”, and the only lounge with an airside view is this little bit of the spa.

Feeling very relaxed, but a little hungry, I decided to head over to the restaurant area. There was one couple in there that were just leaving as I sat down.
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The lady waiting in the restaurant didn’t give off the same feeling of welcome as the other numerous members of Thai staff I’d come across. Still, she forced out a smile, and give me the menu. I ordered a mojito, as well as a fried rice and some har gau.
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The food was very tasty, and was very much appreciated. Unfortunately the lounge was out of mint, so I just went with a glass of water instead of a mojito. There’d be plenty of time for drinking later.

With my pre-lunch snack done, I still had an hour and a half or so before boarding. I still had a small amount of Thai Baht on me, so decided to leave the lounge and find a Bureau de Change. I left my bag at the front desk.

FIDS on the way out of the lounge
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I found a change place without too much difficulty. Unfortunately I had to change my Baht into US Dollars as I didn’t have enough for Danish kronor, Euros or Pounds. I had a bit of a walk around the gate area, and managed to get a few photos of my plane for Frankfurt.
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As I was walking back to the lounge I caught sight of this:


I had completely forgotten that there might have been other lounges for me to check out. With plenty of time of my hands, I headed down the deserted corridor to see what the Singapore Airlines Silver Kris lounge had in store.
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There was an unenthusiastic greeting at the door, and I was shown in.


The buffet:
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I got myself a drink, some more dim sum and some ice cream
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With my curiosity of the SQ lounge satiated, I wondered back to the TG lounge. I passed the economy class lounge for Bangkok Airways on the way
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Back in the First lounge, I had a look at the buffet area. As noted by others, the staff here aren’t very happy with you walking around picking stuff up by yourself. They prefer you to order it and then have it delivered. Whilst I was walking around, there were two staff hovering, both of whom asked if I was “ok”. “Yes, I’m fine thanks, just taking some photos!”.
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With my selection, went and found a seat (with the LHR, FRA and MUC flight all going out at the same time, my private room was now occupied). Of course, I was tailed there by a member of staff eager for my drinks order. “Champagne please”.
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This is the waiting area….for the bathrooms (which was immaculate, and well stocked)
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Twenty minutes before out STD, I was rounded up with two other passengers on the FRA flight, and walked the short distance to our gate.
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Not liking being in a pack, I separated when the others were walking down to the departure level by using the stairs, thus losing my guide, but gaining a time advantage. There was a long queue for economy class but no one at the priority lane, so I whizzed through. There was a long stationery line on the jet bridge, but I walked along the side, then down the First Class bridge.

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April 2012
Bangkok (BKK) - Frankfurt (FRA)
Thai Airways TG 922
Scheduled: 1245-1900 (11h15m)
Actual: 1316-1908 (10h52m)
Boeing 777-35RER HS-TKH “Darabha” (previously VT-JEB)
First Class (Royal First)



I was welcomed at the door by a beautifully dressed lady, who greeted me by name and showed me to my seat. First impressions…very nice! I had been hoping to try a “Suite” before (actually exactly the same type of seat on TK, but my flight was downgraded, along with me) but hadn’t managed. It was nice to finally get the seat.


My first issue with the layout was the lack of storage space. There are no overhead lockers in First. Yes, it makes the cabin very spacious, but there is nowhere to put stuff. Initially, all my stuff ended like this:


I tried to put my (not terribly big) backpack under the leg rest, but it wouldn’t fit all the way. The Lady came over and said I could put it in the locker behind my seat/cabin divider curtain….except that it was already full. The only other space was in the locker in front of seat 1A (so the other side of the cabin). I ended up having to slot it in on top of someone else’s bag. I found the whole thing very awkward. I like being able to get stuff out of the locker when I fancy. Having to walk through the galley, and to the other side of the cabin to get something out of my bag is not what I had in mind for First Class. Still, the bag was now stowed.

Outside. Seats in row 2 only have 3 windows   Row 1 get 4 windows. Grrr!
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I was invited to choose some reading material that had been nicely set up on the table of suite 1G. Of the 8 seats in First, the four windows were taken by European looking passengers, with one person adjacent to me – I think he worked for TG though.
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Hot towels
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Pyjamas and slippers. I used the slippers, but the pjs are now in my collection, complete with plastic wrapping.
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I found the literature pocket very inconveniently located. You almost had to dislocate your arm to get anything out of it


Sawasdee Magazine
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Map
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Menus
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Drinks
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Welcome Champagne. After the gorgeous Laurent Perrier Grand Siècle that was offered on my Swiss F flight, I was really looking forward to some more of the expensive stuff. Thai, however, use Dom Perignon Vintage 2002. Despite retailing at even more than the L.P. (around GBP 115/EUR 145/USD 185/bottle), I didn’t really like it – bit too sweet I think. I think I’ve officially become a champagne snob now. I was quite disappointed. I still had a second glass though  http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p207/shefgab/2012pt5/DSCF9841.jpg

Safety Briefing
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Safety card
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Seat Computer. This was the only thing that still proudly declared that the plane was Jet Airways
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We pushed back around fifteen minutes late, with a bit of an apology from the captain.
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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Sat May 12, 2012 12:31 pm

Orient Thai leaving

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Ready for Take off

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The take off video can be found here.

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Lovely views of Bangkok
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Washing bags by TUMI were handed out after take off. The contents were pretty good.

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Slippers on
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Headset
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Map
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The View
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I had a hunt in my magazine pocket to try and locate the IFE guide. It was nowhere to be found (and neither was the safety card). I stopped the Gentleman serving in First about these. He apologised explaining that as the plane is only leased by Thai, there is no IFE guide. I didn’t follow this logic – surely Thai knows what films are loaded, even if they don’t own the plane? He did fetch me a safety card though. I stopped the Lady a few minutes later and asked her the same thing. She said she’d get me one, and vanished. A few minutes later she came back with the same story. Seemed a bit fishy to me. I hate having to scroll through to see what there is as it takes such a long time.
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There was a reasonable selection of films/TV loaded (although without the paper guide I couldn’t tell you how many). I found War Horse, something I’d wanted to see on the previous leg, but it was too long. It was very good – high recommended, even if it is a bit sad.
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Hoping that the pre-take off drink had been something cheaper from behind the curtain, I asked the Lady if it was what was on the menu. This confirmed, I asked to try the Rosé champagne instead (Veuve Clicquot Rosé Vintage 2004, retailing at a mere 50 quid a bottle). This one didn’t seem terribly special either. What a shame. On a side note, I think the glassware is hideous. I preferred their Business Class stuff. Of course in First Class, there should be some proper sized champagne flutes used anyway.
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Nuts are served too
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I like having the long side table. Things did have a tendency to slide a bit though down the varnished wood. Some “sticky” stuff would be good.
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Menu – First Meal
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About five minutes after the nuts, rice crackers with hot pork dipping sauce was presented. It was tasty and something a bit different.
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Another hot towel is presented (how many am I on today? 8?)
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Blue skies ahead
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With a bit of difficulty, the enormous table is lifted out from under the handy side table.
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Table is set….well sort of. Does anyone else see what’s amiss here?
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Yes, the cutlery is all rolled up, à la economy class. SQ doesn’t even do this in Business.

Bread is offered
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And then comes the famed caviar course, served expertly by my two crew (photo taken with permission).
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Note the iced vodka
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I’d never had proper caviar before, at least not with all the trimmings. I was not expecting to really like it, but man, it was really good! And yes, I did ask for seconds! Now I’m travelling First Class!

With my second portion of caviar demolished, it’s time for the first course (well, it’s really course #3, but the menu doesn’t seem to count the crackers or caviar as courses). Marinated lobster with smoked tuna. If you check out Abrelosojos’s report, you’ll see a lot of the food is the same, even though the flights are over a year apart. Might get a bit boring for frequent flyers.
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Again, very tasty Thai. Thanks!

We’re making progress, flying over the rapidly modernising Burma
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Interesting spelling on this map
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Next course is my pre-ordered lobster. SQ’s version had a more Oriental take, what with it being served with rice. TG have gone for the most Westernised version with potatoes. There is a lot more lobster in the TG version (which I definitely appreciate), but I think I preferred the taste of the SQ Business class one.
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Here’s the SQ one
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Next is the cheese and fruit course. Like on the KTM-BKK leg, you can pick and choose.
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I got a little glass to port to go with it
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Finally dessert is rolled out. Crepe Suzette with vanilla ice cream. The crepe is warm, and the ice cream perfectly soft. This is probably the best dessert I’ve had on a plane.
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Phew. After all that food, I’m in the mood for some peppermint tea. I’m a little surprised that it’s just served in a cup….where’s the teapot?
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A bottle of Evian is also handed out


With the food and drink over, it’s time to shut the doors to my suite and relax with the film. Despite the plane not being very old, the doors were a pain to open and close. They got stuck basically every time you wanted to move them, and occasionally needed coercion from two people simultaneously. Having said that, it was nice to be able to shut the world out. Privacy and space, after all, is the most sought after thing on a plane, is it not?
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Some nice views over Northern India
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Seat in “relax” mode
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The dimmed cabin
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From the IFE
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Flying over Lucknow
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Once War Horse finished, I switched over to Trollied
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A can of Perrier to pass the time. Staff always arrived within about 15 seconds of pressing the call button – very good.
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Ah, this is the life
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Once Trollied is over, I have a search for something else to watch. I select Dream House, but it’s a bit too Beautiful Mind/Shutter Island for my liking.
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Looking for something a bit lighter, and I end up on Suburgatory. It’s pretty awful, but strangely compelling viewing.
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I thought I’d try the seat the other way round for a bit
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About to enter Pakistani airspace
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Needing a break from Suburgatory, I decide to take a walk down to the back.

Bathroom amenities
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The business class bar
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Business Class was pretty full – I saw two empty seats
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From Business I continued all the way to the back of economy. I didn’t see a single empty seat. Thai must be doing something right.
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Economy galley. I had a nice chat with this lady about the flight. She said that the Frankfurt flights were always busy. I like the wood effect floor.
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Economy “bar”
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Time for another cup of tea
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Amazing landscape of Afghanistan
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After about 5 episodes of Subrgatory, I switch over to Tower Heist, which was ok
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I was getting a little peckish though. The menu mentioned “sandwiches” as being on request. I took a stroll up to the galley and requested some, which were brought to my seat a few minutes later along with a gin and tonic. The sandwiches were nice, if not a little boring. No other snack seemed to be on offer, other than some peanuts, which was a shame.
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Views
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Moving map – we’re near Azerbaijan
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My suite
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gabrielchew
Topic Author
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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Sat May 12, 2012 12:32 pm

Azerbaijan
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I heard good things about Tinker Tailor Solider Spy – it was a bit too heavy for me though, so switched off after a while
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Still hungry, I ask a passing steward if I could get another sandwich. I’m brought a selection from First and Economy
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Entering Ukraine
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Less than 3 hours to run
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I took a short (not very good) video mid-flight which can be found here.

Hot towels are passed out
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The menu


The canapés are interesting
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I switch back to the expensive champagne
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Not being a fan of terrine or poached pears, I don’t eat much of the first course
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Bread basket


I did enjoy the Tom Yam Soup though – very tasty
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Unfortunately you can only pre-order one meal (why?), so I have to choose from the menu for the main course. I go with the salmon in black bean sauce with noodles. Very tasty they are too.
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The walnut and date cake for dessert is also pretty tasty
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By the time the meal is finished, we’re over Poland
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IFE controller
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The clouds of the Czech Republic
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The cabin before the lights came up
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My closet


There was this sign on the wall – unfortunately is was very tempting to store stuff there, and the crew didn’t seem to care
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My slippers
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So as to be sure that I wouldn’t be stuck without my bag upon arrival, I went to fetch my bag from the locker.
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The crew come through the cabin and tidy everything up
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Frankfurt
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The landing video can be found here.

And we’re down. Once again we land on the new distant runway. I can’t remember the last time I landed on one of the old runways
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Nice exotic line-up
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Are baggage loaders etc specially vetted to work with El Al aircraft? Are there actually any real dangers posed on the tarmac? Is the armoured truck really necessary?
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Looks like the Oryx has engine trouble
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We finally pull onto stand half an hour behind schedule
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Well, my time in First has come to the end. With some reluctance, I packed up my stuff, thanked the Lady and Gentlemen that had looked after me. I was the first out of the plane and up the air bridge. I was met in the terminal with a lady in a Thai uniform with my name, and that of one other First passenger on it. She greeted me, and checked that I was connecting onto the flight to Dusseldorf. With that confirmed, we headed off on a long and winding journey from the B gates where we arrived to the A gates. In total, plane to lounge it took 30 minutes…way too long to connect especially given that my guide got us fast tracked both at immigration and security, and we were walking fast.

FRA as we power walk by
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FIDS – I arrived on the first flight, least on the last flight
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Being a *A First class passenger, logic would dictate that I should be allowed into the Lufthansa First Class lounge. Unfortunately, LH is much like SQ in that they don’t like customers from other airlines. Research concluded that only LH/LX First/HON pax could use the First Class lounge. I should have access to the Senator lounge (Star Gold). I duly headed over where I was told that I could only use the lesser Business Lounge. I was only slightly annoyed. Whilst the Senator lounge is nicer than the Business lounge, all things being relative, it’s hardly paradise on earth. When I last used this Senator lounge with The Finn in October, I was been quite disappointed. By this stage in the day, I was tired, and a bit drunk. All I wanted was some water to rehydrate after the hike from the B gates, and a shower. The Business lounge was perfectly adequate on both counts. The showers were busy when I first arrived, so I was given a bleeper.
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The lounge was extremely busy and it took a minute or two to find a seat. Eventually I did, and thankfully it was a window seat.
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I decided to check in for my Jetstream flight the next day…nice small cabin to choose a seat in
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After a shorter than predicted wait, I’m given a shower room


By the time I emerge from the shower, it’s approaching boarding time. I leave the “comfort” of the lounge, and make the short walk to the gate.
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When I arrive passengers are still disembarking from the previous flight…clearly boarding will be late. Rather than walk back to the lounge, I just get myself a free coffee from the machine hidden near the gate.
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D-ABXM tonight. Delivered in August 1987, this is the second oldest plane in the LH fleet
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Zoning in and out of consciousness, I’m delighted after a 20 minute wait, the gates are unlocked. Boarding in Frankfurt (and Munich) is really where LH falls down. They have done away with human operated gates, so now everyone has to scan their own boarding pass. As I mentioned in my December report in Munich, this doesn’t work well. There was an announcement for Business/*G etc, but of course everyone just swamped the gate. I guess the last to board would be families with small children, and the elderly. In addition, a lot of people had issues scanning their boarding passes (the guy in front was scanning his the wrong way up), so it took even longer to get on board.
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gabrielchew
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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Sat May 12, 2012 12:33 pm

April 2012
Frankfurt (FRA) – Dusseldorf (DUS)
Lufthansa LH 88
Scheduled: 2120-2210 (0h50m)
Actual: 2128-2201 (0h33m)
Boeing 737-330 D-ABXM “Herford”
Business Class



On the few MUC-FRA flights I’ve done, chocolate bars are handed out by the crew upon boarding, so as to reduce the workload during the short flight. I was fully expecting the same on this flight, however, it didn’t happen. There’s already someone in the aisle seat, so I excuse myself and slide in. Despite the plane being a veteran in the fleet, the interior is spotless. Credit where credit is due, Lufthansa, you look after your planes well (although I still don’t fancy a flight in the back of one of your B744 without PTV). Legroom was fine for this 117 mile flight.
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Magazine
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Story on the new Berlin Airport, which is now delayed indefinitely
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And the new Business Class
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Alas, I miss the retro-jet again
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With the plane boarded (loads in C looked around 70%), the doors are shut, and safety demo done. The take-off only a few minute behind schedule.
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Not feeling terribly hungry, I was looking forward to the meal service more out of curiosity than need. For EUR 318, I guess this isn’t too bad! Quite nice actually. Fruit cake thing, salad, ham, bread roll.
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Served with some white wine and sparkling water
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And concluded with chocolates
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All three cabin crew were working in business class. I thought that a little strange. As CrimsonNL showed us there is no service at all in economy on this leg. No water, no chocolate  

With my meal barely finished, the trays were collected, and the cabin secured for landing.
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Welcome to Dusseldorf! Despite leaving late, we arrived early.
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Walking to baggage reclaim
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Arrivals
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Baggage Hall
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Despite my First Class tags, my bags came out #8 and #20 respectively. I went to get some money from an ATM, then headed out to the train station. My last shreds of faith in German efficiency were shattered when I tried to buy a ticket. The ATM gave me 20s and 50s. The ticket machine (the humans had all gone home) accepted only 5s and 10s, coins or some sort of local cards. Um, what am I supposed to do now? All the shops around there were close, so I couldn’t get any change. I ended up going up to strangers begging for change. Thankfully eventually someone helped me change a 20 for 2 tens. I was not impressed at all. I wasn’t the only one stuck either. The least they could do would be to put in a change machine. With my 20 minute ticket ordeal over, I got on a train, and in just a few minutes, was at my hotel.

So herein ends what is probably my longest ever report (487 photos and videos, and over 6,000 words). I hope you liked it!

But what did I think? The ground service in Bangkok was wonderful. Having a very good 1 hour massage for free was brilliant. If you were on a layover from Europe to Australia or something, it would be perfect. The personnel in the lounge too were top notch.

The 77W was very comfortable. After seeing so many pictures of suites, it was great to be able to finally fly on one long-haul on a good airline. Having your own private suite is the closest you can get to decadence on a plane without having a private jet I’m sure. The seat was very comfy, together with the duvet and pillows. The catering too was excellent in most regards. A more extensive snack basket (i.e. more than just sandwiches) would have been appreciated. The one thing that lacked sparkle for me, however, was the staff. Sure they did everything by the book, and were polite and helpful, but they lacked a certain ‘je ne sais quois’. I must have got through 6 or 7 cans of water during the flights, mostly between meals, but not once was I proactively offered a can. Despite only having 5 passengers in F, there was no proactive offer of extra drinks and snacks during the flight either. Compared to the Swiss F staff coming back from DAR to ZRH, whom I built a rapport with very quickly, or even the SQ business crew, I got off the plane in FRA without having interacted properly with the staff at all, something I do enjoy on a long-haul premium flight. Like I said there was nothing wrong with the crew in terms of what they did, just the “read between the lines” sort of stuff that was missing. Not having the option of “dine on demand” as offered my many other First Classes was not a disappointment, just a bit of a surprise, much like the mystery of the missing teapot.

Transferring in Frankfurt was a right pain, and something even an airport fanatic would get a headache over. 30 minutes of walking and queuing is not acceptable. People may lambast LHR, but the last time I transferred there, it was less than 10 minutes from plane to lounge, including security and immigration. Having the Thai PA was useful, but a car transfer would have been a lot better! And the issue with lounge access did annoy me. I’m pretty sure that I should have been allowed access to the Senator lounge.

Finally, the short LH hop to Dusseldorf. For a business class passenger, I got everything I could want. A tasty light meal, a glass of wine, and an early arrival. Dusseldorf Airport, however, left me with a sour taste in my mouth – not user friendly.

As always, all comments and questions welcome!

Some of my other TRs:

Part 10: Thai Airways Kathmandu-Bangkok, B772 Business Class
Part 9: Yeti Airlines “Everest Express” on the J41
Part 8: Biman Bangladesh A310 Dhaka-Kathmandu
Part 7: United Airways ATR Dhaka-Cox’s Bazar & Regent Airways Dash Chittagong-Dhaka
Part 6: Biman Bangladesh DC10 Calcutta-Dhaka
Part 5: SpiceJet B739 & Jet Konnect B738 Calcutta-Bagdogra rtn, with Darjeeling
Part 4: Singapore Airlines A330 Business Class Singapore-Calcutta
Part 3: Sriwijiaya Airlines & Lion Air Boeing 737-900ER Banda Aceh-Medan-Jakarta-Singapore
Part 2: Valuair/Jetstar Asia SIN-MES and Garuda MES-BTJ
Part 1: U2 LTN-BCN, SQ BCN-SIN 77W Business
Africa Part 7: British Airways Club Europe B767, LCA-LHR
Africa Part 6: LX ZRH-ATH, A3 ATH-LCA. A Greek Tragedy
Africa Part 5: Dar es Salaam – Nairobi – Zurich with Swiss First
Africa Part 4: Fly 540 DAR-ZNZ in Y, and Zanzibar photos
Africa Part 3: ET KGL-EBB-ADD-DAR-ZNZ, A to Z with Ethiopian Airlines in C
Africa Part 2: SN BRU-BJM, SA BJM-KGL, Business to Burundi and Rwanda
Africa Part 1: BD LHR-CMN, TP CMN-LIS, SN LIS-BRU in Y and C
A.net meeting in snowy Tallinn. U2/FR STN-TLL-LTN
easyJet and bmi up to Aberdeen, LTN-ABZ-LHR
The Costa del Sol with British Airways. LGW-AGP-LCY
Mysterious Moldova (and Transnistria). Lufthansa LHR-MUC-KIV
BA to the Austrian Alps. LHR-MUC, INN-LGW
I can't get no Jetisfaction: LH LGW-FRA inaugural
Colombia Part 4: Colombia to London via FRA/MUC/HEL on LH & BA
Colombia Part 3: Colombia with Avianca (AV). SMR-BOG-MDE-BOG
Colombia Part 2: Colombia with Avianca (AV). BOG-MDE-CTG
Colombia Part 1: London to Colombia via ARN/MUC/FRA on BA & LH
USA and Mexico Part 4, British Airways Mexico City – London, World Traveller Plus
USA and Mexico Part 3: Around Mexico with Aereo Calafia Cessna 208B & Viva Aerobus B733
USA and Mexico Part 2: Sightseeing tour of San Diego Airport, and American Airlines San Diego - LA – Dallas - San Jose Cabo
USA and Mexico Part 1: easyJet Luton to Paris, and BA Paris to San Diego via LHR in World Traveller Plus
British Airways to Scandinavia (LHR-CPH,GOT-LHR)
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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Sat May 12, 2012 1:18 pm

Hi Gabriel,

very nice report, TG's F Class product is certainly impressive. However, I don't like the Jet Airways F Class seats, they don't look exclusive at all IMO.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Bangkok Hotel #2, Le Meridien. GBP 83/night
Trip Advisor, #10 of 674 hotels in Bangkok

I stayed there in March, very impressive hotel.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Tasty chocolate in the room

  

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
My first issue with the layout was the lack of storage space. There are no overhead lockers in First. Yes, it makes the cabin very spacious, but there is nowhere to put stuff. Initially, all my stuff ended like this:

There's no point to get rid of the lockers on the 777 because the cabin looks spacious anyway.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I was quite disappointed. I still had a second glass though

I cannot follow that logic.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
This was the only thing that still proudly declared that the plane was Jet Airways

Nice.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I had a hunt in my magazine pocket to try and locate the IFE guide. It was nowhere to be found (and neither was the safety card). I stopped the Gentleman serving in First about these. He apologised explaining that as the plane is only leased by Thai, there is no IFE guide. I didn’t follow this logic – surely Thai knows what films are loaded, even if they don’t own the plane?

Strange!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Another hot towel is presented (how many am I on today? 8?)

I already got three or four on the relatively short EK DXB-MUC flight in Y Class some days ago.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Yes, the cutlery is all rolled up, à la economy class.

I have hardly seen Y Class cutlery presented this way.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I’m a little surprised that it’s just served in a cup….where’s the teapot?
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The sandwiches were nice, if not a little boring.

You are hard to please!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
A bottle of Evian is also handed out

No critical comment this time?  

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Economy “bar”

That looks better than what most long-haul carriers offer in Y Class.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Unfortunately you can only pre-order one meal (why?), so I have to choose from the menu for the main course.

Were you planning to pre-order two meals?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Are baggage loaders etc specially vetted to work with El Al aircraft?

You can be sure about that.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Are there actually any real dangers posed on the tarmac? Is the armoured truck really necessary?

It's a nice show, common on German airports.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Being a *A First class passenger, logic would dictate that I should be allowed into the Lufthansa First Class lounge. Unfortunately, LH is much like SQ in that they don’t like customers from other airlines. Research concluded that only LH/LX First/HON pax could use the First Class lounge.

There's nothing wrong about keeping it exclusive considering the large number of Star Alliance members. It's a selling point for LH.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
By this stage in the day, I was tired, and a bit drunk. All I wanted was some water to rehydrate after the hike from the B gates, and a shower.

Well, you cannot blame anyone else but yourself for being drunk.  

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Not feeling terribly hungry

Suddenly?  

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
For EUR 318, I guess this isn’t too bad! Quite nice actually. Fruit cake thing, salad, ham, bread roll.

That's a very generous meal for a flight which more or less consists of takeoff and landing.


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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Sat May 12, 2012 1:35 pm

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 5):

very nice report

Thanks

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 5):
TG's F Class product is certainly impressive. However, I don't like the Jet Airways F Class seats, they don't look exclusive at all IMO.

I think the seats are pretty exclusive... I mean just 8 seats, all with privacy doors....

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 5):
There's no point to get rid of the lockers on the 777 because the cabin looks spacious anyway.

I completely agree. Bad decision I think

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 5):
I cannot follow that logic.

Well, I didn't think the bottle was worth over 100 pounds, but it was still acceptable champagne.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 5):
I have hardly seen Y Class cutlery presented this way.

I mean rolled up in a napkin (not necessarily metal cutlery in a proper cloth napkin)

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 5):
You are hard to please!

I'm discening! I was just comapring LX to TG First. LX had a teapot which I quite liked. And the sandwiches were boring (no debate necessary!).

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 5):
No critical comment this time?

Well, it's a bottle of water....

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 5):
Were you planning to pre-order two meals?

If that was an option, then yes. It makes sense in terms of reducing waste on a flight like that as well as offereing customers more choice.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 5):
There's nothing wrong about keeping it exclusive considering the large number of Star Alliance members. It's a selling point for LH.

I know thats' how they like to do it. It would be nice if they called it something different (aka The Concorde Lounge in LHR/JFK which is only for F BA pax, whislt Gold can use the First Class Lounge) so as to reduce confusion of entitlement.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 5):
Well, you cannot blame anyone else but yourself for being drunk.

I wasn't blaming anyone (including myself) for being drunk! I understand the principles between drinking alcohol and being drunk...I am British afterall!
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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Sat May 12, 2012 1:57 pm

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 6):
I think the seats are pretty exclusive... I mean just 8 seats, all with privacy doors....

Sure, the layout is. I meant the design and colors.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 6):
LX had a teapot which I quite liked.

Interesting, I didn't remember that.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 6):
If that was an option, then yes. It makes sense in terms of reducing waste on a flight like that as well as offereing customers more choice.

Good point. But how are you able to eat all that?

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 6):

I wasn't blaming anyone (including myself) for being drunk! I understand the principles between drinking alcohol and being drunk...I am British afterall!

No harm intended!


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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Sat May 12, 2012 4:01 pm

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 7):
Sure, the layout is. I meant the design and colors.

Ah, right. I think it's ok. At least the purple matches the TG colour scheme

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 7):
Interesting, I didn't remember that.
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p207/shefgab/africa4/CIMG1986.jpg
The teapot on LX First

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 7):
Good point. But how are you able to eat all that?

I get hungry when I fly!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 7):
No harm intended!

No harm inflicted!

[Edited 2012-05-12 09:18:09]
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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Sat May 12, 2012 4:05 pm

What a report !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! better than mine for sure !

Too bad we missed each other by a day !

How do you rate TG F compare to others ?

cheers.
 
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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Sat May 12, 2012 4:20 pm

Quoting milesaddict (Reply 9):
What a report !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks Tom!

Quoting milesaddict (Reply 9):
Too bad we missed each other by a day !

Yeah, very bad timing!

Quoting milesaddict (Reply 9):
How do you rate TG F compare to others ?

Well, I can only really compare with Swiss in First. I think the seat was a bit better on Thai (because of the doors), but the service and food were better on LX.
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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Sat May 12, 2012 4:35 pm

When I grow up, I think I want to be you.   Thank you for taking the time to painstakingly document your travels. It really does inspire me to see more of this world. I also hope that one day before I leave this earth, I too will have the pleasure of traveling in such unabashed luxury....just once. Again, thank you for posting this gem of a report.
 
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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Sat May 12, 2012 5:16 pm

Quoting caleb1 (Reply 11):
When I grow up, I think I want to be you

Awh, thanks Caleb - what a nice thing to say!

Quoting caleb1 (Reply 11):
Thank you for taking the time to painstakingly document your travels

No problem, glad you liked it!

Quoting caleb1 (Reply 11):
It really does inspire me to see more of this world. I also hope that one day before I leave this earth, I too will have the pleasure of traveling in such unabashed luxury....just once. Again, thank you for posting this gem of a report.

I like inspiring people! I hope you're collecting your airmiles? Large chunks of mine come from credit card offers....so easy to do!
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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Sat May 12, 2012 5:34 pm

Hi Gabriel

Nice report. You're a brave man to get on a bike and ride through Bangkok! From my last visit there I remember the traffic is something nasty! As with all your other reports in this series, what I like here is that you throw in a few shots of the places you visited as well.

The TG/9W suite looks nice. But I'm not really too sure about the food on Thai.

Thanks for sharing!

Cheers,
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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Sat May 12, 2012 5:36 pm

This is such a very detailed trip report I've seen in a long while. Great stuff! Really enjoy it!

Are there any reasons behind regarding moving from one hotel to another in BKK?
I'd be super tired moving around BKK changing hotel through the traffic, even on a taxi  
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Welcome Champagne. After the gorgeous Laurent Perrier Grand Siècle that was offered on my Swiss F flight, I was really looking forward to some more of the expensive stuff. Thai, however, use Dom Perignon Vintage 2002. Despite retailing at even more than the L.P. (around GBP 115/EUR 145/USD 185/bottle), I didn’t really like it – bit too sweet I think. I think I’ve officially become a champagne snob now. I was quite disappointed. I still had a second glass though


These are all confusing to me. You looked for a more expensive champagne, you got it. However, you didn't like it in the end. Then, however, you still ask for more.....??? WTF??

But it's still fun and put a smile on my face (without faking)

Many thanks for sharing your experience on THAI F service, one of the best out there still.
Let's just blame it on yields.
 
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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Sat May 12, 2012 5:58 pm

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 13):

Nice report.

Thanks William!

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 13):
You're a brave man to get on a bike and ride through Bangkok! From my last visit there I remember the traffic is something nasty

Well, I was a bit cautious at first, but the routes were well chosen, and traffic was not much of a problem at all

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 13):
As with all your other reports in this series, what I like here is that you throw in a few shots of the places you visited as well.

More than a few photos! But yeah, I like to out my trips in context

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 13):
The TG/9W suite looks nice. But I'm not really too sure about the food on Thai.

Really, I loved the food

Quoting nethkt (Reply 14):
This is such a very detailed trip report I've seen in a long while. Great stuff! Really enjoy it!

Thanks!

Quoting nethkt (Reply 14):

Are there any reasons behind regarding moving from one hotel to another in BKK?
I'd be super tired moving around BKK changing hotel through the traffic, even on a taxi

Well, I was planning on spending some time on the beach in the middle, so had already booked the first and last night. When I decided to stay the entire time in BKK, I had to pick hotels to fill in the middle, but wanted somewhere a bit nicer....

Quoting nethkt (Reply 14):
These are all confusing to me. You looked for a more expensive champagne, you got it. However, you didn't like it in the end. Then, however, you still ask for more.....??? WTF??

I was hoping for something as nice as the LX F champagne. The stuff on TG was more expensive, but didn't taste as nice. I wasn't saying I didn't like it though!
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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Sat May 12, 2012 7:19 pm

Hi Gabriel,

Thanks a lot for the very nice trip report. From your pictures in Bangkok, you have seen more of Bangkok during your visit than me and I live in Bangkok  . Its very nice to see THAI F service on the ground and in the air. LH Business class food offering looks good on a short flight. I would have thought that with a *A First class boarding pass, you would be able to access Senator lounge, but strange.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I was also lucky enough to meet up with A.net member Win1290 for a very nice lunch before his flight back to London. Was great to meet you Win!

I was very lucky to meet you Gabriel  . I really enjoy the meet.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Lobster Thermidor
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Next course is my pre-ordered lobster

This looks very much similar to the dish I pre-ordered in F from BKK-LHR in 2006 (before I found out about my food allergy). But the presentation looks a lot better on yours. Also, back in 2006, around 20 options of meal were available to choose, and its very nice to know that there are even more options now.

http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s515/win1290/DSC00728.jpg

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
We sped off down a little passageway between the Business lounge and the corridor %u2013 I imagine it would be a bit off putting for the C pax sat with their backs to us. Before long we had pulled up to the desk entrance.

The buggy is a convenient way to get to the F lounge. Unfortunately, it can't seat more then 2. A few years ago, when we travelled in a group of 4, we were escorted to the First Class lounge on foot which was a bit of a walk. But after the lounge visit, we were driven to the aircraft in a larger golf car.


Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I had a hunt in my magazine pocket to try and locate the IFE guide. It was nowhere to be found (and neither was the safety card). I stopped the Gentleman serving in First about these. He apologised explaining that as the plane is only leased by Thai, there is no IFE guide. I didn%u2019t follow this logic %u2013 surely Thai knows what films are loaded, even if they don%u2019t own the plane? He did fetch me a safety card though. I stopped the Lady a few minutes later and asked her the same thing. She said she%u2019d get me one, and vanished. A few minutes later she came back with the same story. Seemed a bit fishy to me. I hate having to scroll through to see what there is as it takes such a long time.

That doesn't sound right. I was in the very same aircraft (HS-TKH) from BKK-NRT. The IFE guide (Thai Vision) was available in my seat pocket in Y, and so was the safety card.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 1):
Economy %u201Cbar%u201D

I didn't know the TG offers a snack bar in Economy class, it looks nice.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Washing bags by TUMI were handed out after take off. The contents were pretty good.

It looks nice, but I prefer the Rimowa bag though  
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Alas, I miss the retro-jet again

Nice!

Thanks a lot, really enjoyed reading it.

Win
 
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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Sat May 12, 2012 7:31 pm

Quoting win1290 (Reply 16):

Thanks a lot for the very nice trip report

Thanks Win

Quoting win1290 (Reply 16):
From your pictures in Bangkok, you have seen more of Bangkok during your visit than me and I live in Bangkok .

Ha, you should go cycling the next time you're home!

Quoting win1290 (Reply 16):
I was very lucky to meet you Gabriel . I really enjoy the meet.

Was great to meet you too! let me know the next time you're in London

Quoting win1290 (Reply 16):
This looks very much similar to the dish I pre-ordered in F from BKK-LHR in 2006 (before I found out about my food allergy). But the presentation looks a lot better on yours. Also, back in 2006, around 20 options of meal were available to choose, and its very nice to know that there are even more options now.

You're right, mine does look a lot better. Good that they have increased their pre-order selection. I noticed a lot of the choices were very similar though (e.g. phad thai with prawns/phad thai with chicken/ eg phad thai etc)

Quoting win1290 (Reply 16):
That doesn't sound right. I was in the very same aircraft (HS-TKH) from BKK-NRT. The IFE guide (Thai Vision) was available in my seat pocket in Y, and so was the safety card.

Well, it didn't make sense to me which is why I asked both cabin crew.....very odd

Quoting win1290 (Reply 16):
Thanks a lot, really enjoyed reading it.

No problem
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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Sat May 12, 2012 7:47 pm

Gab,

Sometimes I wonder whether I'm reading your trip reports for the aviation-related stuff or the food . Superb stuff on both fronts and what a nice way to return back to Europe with TG. It all looked pretty impressive to me.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
(Have I broken a record for the most parts yet?)

No doubt you have!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Wonderful views

I loved your hotel views. Especially at night. These are the views I expect when I stay in any downtown hotel of any metropolis. And the prices were quite good too.


I loved the photo of the airline-logo amenity bags in Bangkok! I want one. Maybe an Aeroflot one. They look awfully cool.

Too bad for the trouble you had to go through in FRA and DUS. That's very unusual for a german airport and very un-German in general.

Now looking forward to the conclusion (?) of this epic trip.

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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Sat May 12, 2012 8:00 pm

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 18):


Sometimes I wonder whether I'm reading your trip reports for the aviation-related stuff or the food .

Ha, the food I'm sure!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 18):
Superb stuff on both fronts and what a nice way to return back to Europe with TG. It all looked pretty impressive to me

Yes, was a very nice flight

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 18):
No doubt you have!

Hurrah!

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 18):
I loved your hotel views. Especially at night. These are the views I expect when I stay in any downtown hotel of any metropolis. And the prices were quite good too.

Wonderful views indeed

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 18):
I loved the photo of the airline-logo amenity bags in Bangkok! I want one. Maybe an Aeroflot one. They look awfully cool.

I was very tempted to buy one, but they weren't very good quality

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 18):
Too bad for the trouble you had to go through in FRA and DUS. That's very unusual for a german airport and very un-German in general.

Yeah, right pain in the a**

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 18):
Now looking forward to the conclusion (?) of this epic trip.

Yup, just 1 more part with BA
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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Sat May 12, 2012 8:44 pm

Hi Gabriel,

fantastic! Certainly a nice way to burn some miles!

Bangkok looks fascinating, it's been a while since I was there in 2002. Interesting to sample so many hotels!

The whole process at the airport is designed to remove stress, it looks like the absolute ideal way to travel. Maybe one day in years to come  

Food on board looks delicious - whilst the "book the cook" lobster looks great, the salmon and noodles look just as good!

And certainly a fantastic report, well worth the wait  

Thanks again

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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Sat May 12, 2012 9:17 pm

Quoting signol (Reply 20):
fantastic! Certainly a nice way to burn some miles!

Yeah, was good value for 30,000 odd miles

Quoting signol (Reply 20):
The whole process at the airport is designed to remove stress, it looks like the absolute ideal way to travel.

Yes, this is the way to travel through an airport

Quoting signol (Reply 20):
Food on board looks delicious - whilst the "book the cook" lobster looks great, the salmon and noodles look just as good!

Tasty food indeed.Will have to try and find some lobster now in Waitrose!

Quoting signol (Reply 20):
And certainly a fantastic report, well worth the wait

Thanks!
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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Sat May 12, 2012 9:20 pm

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
*** Just to warn you, this section has even more photos than normal. Enjoy! ***



I would like to enjoy- unfortunately, I have huge problems to upload the last pictures...

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
For various reasons I ended up staying in 4 hotels over my 5 nights. I know, quite ridiculous, but there we go.



Ranking please! Which comes first and last?

Maybe next time, you might try http://www.rembrandtbkk.com/ (Trip Advisor, #69 of 676 hotels in Bangkok).
 
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Sat May 12, 2012 11:37 pm

Quoting debonair (Reply 22):
I would like to enjoy- unfortunately, I have huge problems to upload the last pictures...

Was there a problem on your end or mine?

Quoting debonair (Reply 22):

Ranking please! Which comes first and last?

Maybe next time, you might try http://www.rembrandtbkk.com/ (Trip Advisor, #69 of 676 hotels in Bangkok).

Um, I guess Le Meridien, Baan K, Furama then Feung Nakorn, in that order. Thanks for the reccomendation too, I'll bear that in mind for next time.
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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Sun May 13, 2012 12:04 am

Hi Gabriel!

What a great showcase of the Thai F product!
Bangkok is a fantastic city! and one of the cheapest major cities in the world.
The Royal First lounge at BKK looks impressive to me as does the inflight service and catering, especially the "book the cook" lobster and the Salmon Black Bean

Look forward to your future reports!
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Sun May 13, 2012 4:30 am

Hi Gabriel,

Very nice report as usual! Don't usually read reports on First Class, but...

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Welcome to the eleventh part of my spring trip to Asia! (Have I broken a record for the most parts yet?)

11 parts, and still not done yet!

Nice to see you stay at 4 different hotels in just 5 nights. All of them look great (and value for money too).

The lounge looks great! I was quite surprised to hear about the lack of an IFE guide though.

What an incredible trip you had though! And the speed you 'churn out' these reports are amazing.

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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Sun May 13, 2012 7:22 am

Hi Gabriel

Nice trip report, thanks for sharing it with us! BKK is high on my to-do list.
TG F looks very impressing as well, but indeed. The seat is not one of the most handy ones out there

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
April 2012
Bangkok (BKK) - Frankfurt (FRA)
Thai Airways TG 922
Scheduled: 1245-1900 (11h15m)
Actual: 1316-1908 (10h52m)
Boeing 777-35RER HS-TKH “Darabha” (previously VT-JEB)
First Class (Royal First)

Haah! I had that one in 2008 between BRU and EWR when it was with 9W. Seat 54K for me, however upon disembarking I sat down for a minute in the same seat as yours too just get a quick feel of the F-cabin.


Greetings
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Sun May 13, 2012 9:25 am

Thanks for the comments!

Quoting byronicle6 (Reply 24):
What a great showcase of the Thai F product!

Thanks

Quoting byronicle6 (Reply 24):
The Royal First lounge at BKK looks impressive to me as does the inflight service and catering, especially the "book the cook" lobster and the Salmon Black Bean

The Lounge is amazing, certainly the best I've used. The food, too, was great

Quoting yapple (Reply 25):

Very nice report as usual!

Thanks!

Quoting yapple (Reply 25):
11 parts, and still not done yet!

Nearly done, just one more to go!

Quoting yapple (Reply 25):
The lounge looks great! I was quite surprised to hear about the lack of an IFE guide though.

Yes, that was a mystery

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 26):

Nice trip report, thanks for sharing it with us!

No problem, glad you liked it Marc

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 26):
Haah! I had that one in 2008 between BRU and EWR when it was with 9W. Seat 54K for me, however upon disembarking I sat down for a minute in the same seat as yours too just get a quick feel of the F-cabin.

Ha, nice to know you've sat in the same seat, even if it was just for a moment!
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Sun May 13, 2012 3:16 pm

What a great report, Gabrielchew!

TG looks amazing in F, especially the check-in process and the massage before takeoff. How unique from other airlines that don't serve tea and a cold towel while you wait to be checked-in. What a relaxing way to begin a trip!

Thanks for sharing! Man - there was so much food served on your flight. I would be absolutely stuffed!

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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Sun May 13, 2012 3:43 pm

Quoting 767747 (Reply 28):
What a great report

Thanks Matthew!

Quoting 767747 (Reply 28):
TG looks amazing in F, especially the check-in process and the massage before takeoff. How unique from other airlines that don't serve tea and a cold towel while you wait to be checked-in. What a relaxing way to begin a trip!

yes, it was the ultimate way to start a trip (well, apart from being helicoptered in) - best airport experience ever!

Quoting 767747 (Reply 28):
Thanks for sharing! Man - there was so much food served on your flight. I would be absolutely stuffed!

Yeah, there was a lot of food. But that's what First class is about...eating and drinking until you can't move...It's like Christmas!
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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Sun May 13, 2012 7:08 pm

Hi Gabs,

Oh yes, here's the grand prize! Congratulations on another perfect episode and welcome back to the Old Continent!

Thai First looked excellent but I agree with you here, somehow your outbound Singapore flight felt a little bit better servicewise, personal and all that.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
*** Just to warn you, this section has even more photos than normal. Enjoy! ***

Thanks for the warning, took a fresh beer as a preparation!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Bangkok is probably the best place in the world to enjoy bargain accommodation. The Thai Baht isn’t terribly strong right now, and the country is excellent value anyway.

Ahh, sounds just like KL some years back. You got the five star Le Meridien or Hiltons for around 50 EUR per night and that's a rack rate so all points and guest program benefits. Of course back then even that turned out to be too much for my struggling company so after enjoying and getting used to the Hilton standards the next trip I was enjoying the 20 EUR per night fout star local competitor across the road. But honestly it wasn't bad at all.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
For various reasons I ended up staying in 4 hotels over my 5 nights. I know, quite ridiculous, but there we go. (Honestly, there were good reasons for such extensive hotel changing!)

Hmm, miles or points can't be the reason as apart from the Le Meridien I don't think any of those properties have any meaningful guest programs of FF program affiliations. But maybe you booked these thru BMI to get some nice Diamond Club miles?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Bangkok Hotel #2, Le Meridien. GBP 83/night
Trip Advisor, #10 of 674 hotels in Bangkok

Interesting, you certainly pay a premium for the brand name. But the hotel does look fabulous - reminds me a bit of my stay at the Frankfurt Le Meridien Park Hotel which I got amazingly cheaply thru Priceline...

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Bangkok Hotel #3, Feung Nakorn Rooms. GBP 28/night including breakfast
Trip Advisor, #20 of 674 hotels in Bangkok
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Bangkok Hotel #4, Baan K residence by Blison. GBP 40/night including breakfast
Trip Advisor, #6 of 674 hotels in Bangkok

The price and the Trip Advisor ratings don't really seem to go hand in hand here.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Of course there’s more to Bangkok that hotel hopping and cycling. There’s shopping:

Those airline logo bags look nice. Did you grab any?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
And eating:

Now you're talking! Thai food... bliss.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Dodgy clubs:

Come on, admit it - these were the reason you stayed in Bangkok - crazy nights at Soi Cowboy with ping pong shows and stuff  
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Milesaddict was booked on the same flight in First the day before me – would have been cool to fly together, but it didn’t work out.

Well, only if the chemistries work out, which might be a big IF...

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
What happened next was definitely the most serene check in experience of my life.

Sounds very nice. I think you need a new goal for your life: to use the LH F terminal in FRA and compare it to this!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I was greeted by name, and escorted to a private room.

Private rooms in the lounge? Impressive!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Once again, I got offered a cold towel and drink

They certainly keep you hydrated! Hopefully there are enough toilets around, I think you are giving your bladder a good workout.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
(And no, there was no happy ending).

Bugger, I was just about to ask about it.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
As noted by others, the staff here aren’t very happy with you walking around picking stuff up by yourself. They prefer you to order it and then have it delivered. Whilst I was walking around, there were two staff hovering, both of whom asked if I was “ok”. “Yes, I’m fine thanks, just taking some photos!”.

That's annoying, something I really hate. Not just in lounges but in shops etc. just as well. I want to browse and discover things on my own, not get buggered all the time.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Boeing 777-35RER HS-TKH “Darabha” (previously VT-JEB)

So this is leased from Jet?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
There are no overhead lockers in First. Yes, it makes the cabin very spacious, but there is nowhere to put stuff. Initially, all my stuff ended like this:

That is simply ridiculous!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Sawasdee Magazine

With folded corners. Not impressed - they should make sure they have mint copies in First class before every flight!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Seat Computer. This was the only thing that still proudly declared that the plane was Jet Airways

Ok, you answered my earlier question here.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Washing bags by TUMI were handed out after take off. The contents were pretty good.

Nice brand. I use my amenity kits for holding various items for travel - one contains all the chargers for the various devices and my camera's spare batteries and one is used to hold my noise canceling headphones (their own pouch is ridiculously flimsy).

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Seemed a bit fishy to me. I hate having to scroll through to see what there is as it takes such a long time.

Kinda weird, yes. But I never knew somebody actually read those entertainment guides! Do you also read the ridiculously thick shopping magazines containing the weirdest of items for sale that are so commonplace on American carriers?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I found War Horse, something I’d wanted to see on the previous leg, but it was too long. It was very good – high recommended, even if it is a bit sad.

Are you serious? That is probably the last movie I'd ever watch, the whole idea sounds like a recipe for disaster in your usual Disneysque way.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
And then comes the famed caviar course, served expertly by my two crew (photo taken with permission).

They seem quite senior to me. And SO concentrated on getting the caviar right  .

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Note the iced vodka

But of course! Was it genuine Russian stuff like Russki Standard?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Marinated lobster with smoked tuna. If you check out Abrelosojos’s report, you’ll see a lot of the food is the same, even though the flights are over a year apart. Might get a bit boring for frequent flyers.

How can you get bored of lobster? Or jumbo prawns for that matter? Or a Thai green curry? Not going to happen  .

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
We’re making progress, flying over the rapidly modernising Burma

So when are you going?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
TG have gone for the most Westernised version with potatoes. There is a lot more lobster in the TG version (which I definitely appreciate), but I think I preferred the taste of the SQ Business class one.

Hmm, an interesting take but looks delicious to me!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
A bottle of Evian is also handed out

Evian? Seriously? That is a horrible piss, tastes like water that's been stale for a thousand year or so. Honestly I've never understood what the thing behind Evian is. They must pay all the celebrities a shitload of money in exchange to them recommending that vile stuff.

Perrier, on the other hand is quite fine.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
After about 5 episodes of Subrgatory, I switch over to Tower Heist, which was ok

You certainly watch a lot of telly, do you? On a flight like this I could probably manage a maximum of two movies and maybe a couple of episodes of some series if they had any good ones (which I doubt). After that I'd had an overload of the idiot tube.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I’m brought a selection from First and Economy

...with the economy ones still being shrink wrapped. Not impressed. In First class they should remove the wrapping and plate them before serving them to you.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Not being a fan of terrine or poached pears, I don’t eat much of the first course

Ugh, sounds bad.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I did enjoy the Tom Yam Soup though – very tasty

That looks very nice, maybe I'll have some of that the next time I'm in my local Thai place.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Unfortunately you can only pre-order one meal (why?), so I have to choose from the menu for the main course. I go with the salmon in black bean sauce with noodles. Very tasty they are too.

Hmm, I'd ordered the duck. That salmon looks a bit too messy for me.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
And we’re down. Once again we land on the new distant runway. I can’t remember the last time I landed on one of the old runways

Well if you are going to build it you should use it! But honestly speaking I landed on 25L last week, although there was also another plane on parallel approach for the new one, 25R...

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Are baggage loaders etc specially vetted to work with El Al aircraft? Are there actually any real dangers posed on the tarmac? Is the armoured truck really necessary?

No, it's not necessary. But since the world has decided to play along with the ridiculous demands of the spoiled Israelis who will throw up a tantrum like a small kid if they don't get their way with private terminals, armored cars, armed guards and kosher meals this is what you get. Quite ridiculous.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
In total, plane to lounge it took 30 minutes…way too long to connect especially given that my guide got us fast tracked both at immigration and security, and we were walking fast.

Well, that's FRA for you!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
When I last used this Senator lounge with The Finn in October, I was been quite disappointed.

Yes, that A pier lounge is nothing to write home about. An okay place to wait for a while but that's it and it can get horribly packed... At least the food is usually quite nice, good hearty German food. The new Senator lounge on the non-Schengen side between piers B and C on the other hand... that is the bee's knees!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I decided to check in for my Jetstream flight the next day…nice small cabin to choose a seat in

What's up with that first row? Five abreast with no aisle?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Story on the new Berlin Airport, which is now delayed indefinitely

Well hopefully not indefinitely!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Not feeling terribly hungry, I was looking forward to the meal service more out of curiosity than need. For EUR 318, I guess this isn’t too bad! Quite nice actually. Fruit cake thing, salad, ham, bread roll.

That is an impressive meal for such a short hop but sometimes you just have to wonder what's the point really... I bet a lot of that food ends up being wasted.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I was not impressed at all. I wasn’t the only one stuck either. The least they could do would be to put in a change machine.

Well this is Germany for you. Most of the Deutsche Bahn self service machines don't accept credit cards either (the ones at airports like FRA do!). But yeah, very bad of them. You should've just jumped into the train without a ticket...

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
So herein ends what is probably my longest ever report (487 photos and videos, and over 6,000 words). I hope you liked it!

Well guess how long time it took me to read thru it (twice, once for actual reading enjoyment and another time for commenting...)?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Sure they did everything by the book, and were polite and helpful, but they lacked a certain ‘je ne sais quois’. I must have got through 6 or 7 cans of water during the flights, mostly between meals, but not once was I proactively offered a can.

Yes, this makes a big difference. The crew looked quite senior, maybe they've seen it all and were too tired and jaded by now.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
much like the mystery of the missing teapot.

What is the thing with the teapot? This must be a British thing - one cup is more than enough, who needs the whole bloody pot anyway?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
People may lambast LHR, but the last time I transferred there, it was less than 10 minutes from plane to lounge, including security and immigration.

Maybe if you stay within the same terminal. But try a connection from HEL to almost anywhere - you have to make the bloody annoying bus transfer from T3 to somewhere else which takes a looooong time.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Dusseldorf Airport, however, left me with a sour taste in my mouth – not user friendly.

DUS airport itself is fine, a modern and very well working with rather short distances as well, nothing like the long walks at FRA. But that ticket thing - it is not really limited just to DUS, most of the airports in Germany suffer from it one way or another. I guess it is not a big issue for me as I usually have Euro coins anyway with me...
 
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Sun May 13, 2012 7:22 pm

Nice pictures, so sorry to hear though, that you had to unroll your own cutlery. Anyone would think you weren't alive and well enough to do it yourself.  
 
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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Sun May 13, 2012 8:30 pm

Wow, that was a long reply P! Goes well with the length of the report I guess!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 30):
Oh yes, here's the grand prize! Congratulations on another perfect episode and welcome back to the Old Continent!

Thanks!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 30):
Thanks for the warning, took a fresh beer as a preparation!

Good idea, I was going to suggest something along those lines

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 30):
Hmm, miles or points can't be the reason as apart from the Le Meridien I don't think any of those properties have any meaningful guest programs of FF program affiliations. But maybe you booked these thru BMI to get some nice Diamond Club miles?

No, all booked via Quido and Expedia. 12% cashback, plus triple Nectar points.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 30):
The price and the Trip Advisor ratings don't really seem to go hand in hand here.

Thats the good thinkg a bout Bangkok - the good places aren't necessarily expensive

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 30):
Those airline logo bags look nice. Did you grab any?

No. I had a look, but the quality wasn't good

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 30):
Come on, admit it - these were the reason you stayed in Bangkok - crazy nights at Soi Cowboy with ping pong shows and stuff

No P, I did all that stuff on my gap year! I'm a good boy now!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 30):
Sounds very nice. I think you need a new goal for your life: to use the LH F terminal in FRA and compare it to this!

It's on my to do list!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 30):
They certainly keep you hydrated! Hopefully there are enough toilets around, I think you are giving your bladder a good workout.

Yes, plenty of (vey nice) toilets around

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 30):
Bugger, I was just about to ask about it.

I knew you would, so pre-empted you!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 30):
So this is leased from Jet?

Yes, or bought.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 30):
With folded corners. Not impressed - they should make sure they have mint copies in First class before every flight!

Well I didn't even have a safety card, so creased magazines was the last of my worries!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 30):
Kinda weird, yes. But I never knew somebody actually read those entertainment guides! Do you also read the ridiculously thick shopping magazines containing the weirdest of items for sale that are so commonplace on American carriers?

Well, I don't "read" them, but they are handy to flick through to see what's on. And those shopping guides are a fantastic portal into the Amercian psyche!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 30):
Are you serious? That is probably the last movie I'd ever watch, the whole idea sounds like a recipe for disaster in your usual Disneysque way.

It's not at all Disneyesque. Have you actually seen it?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 30):
But of course! Was it genuine Russian stuff like Russki Standard?

TBH, can't remember. I think it was Smirnoff Blue Lable, but might again have been Belvedere?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 30):
So when are you going?

Sometime before I hit my country centenary!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 30):

Evian? Seriously? That is a horrible piss, tastes like water that's been stale for a thousand year or so. Honestly I've never understood what the thing behind Evian is. They must pay all the celebrities a shitload of money in exchange to them recommending that vile stuff.
Perrier, on the other hand is quite fine.

The only times I've ever had Evian are TG First, QR Biz, and in the CA F lounge in PEK. Never saw the point in shipping water around the world. And San Pelligrino is so much better than Perrier.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 30):
You certainly watch a lot of telly, do you? On a flight like this I could probably manage a maximum of two movies and maybe a couple of episodes of some series if they had any good ones (which I doubt). After that I'd had an overload of the idiot tube.

What else are you supposed to do on a flight like this, other than watch TV?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 30):
Yes, that A pier lounge is nothing to write home about. An okay place to wait for a while but that's it and it can get horribly packed... At least the food is usually quite nice, good hearty German food. The new Senator lounge on the non-Schengen side between piers B and C on the other hand... that is the bee's knees!

I'll have to check it out

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 30):
What's up with that first row? Five abreast with no aisle?

Ha, funny little map. No, it's 1x2 seating

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 30):
Well this is Germany for you. Most of the Deutsche Bahn self service machines don't accept credit cards either (the ones at airports like FRA do!). But yeah, very bad of them. You should've just jumped into the train without a ticket...

Well, I don't like the idea of fare evasion, and I wasn't sure of DB ticket collector's view on it either. They can be right ***** over here.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 30):
Well guess how long time it took me to read thru it (twice, once for actual reading enjoyment and another time for commenting...)?

As long as it took for to comments on your comments?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 30):
What is the thing with the teapot? This must be a British thing - one cup is more than enough, who needs the whole bloody pot anyway?

It's always nice to have a teapot. And when you shell out for an F ticket, its nice to have all the trimmings.

Quoting kdhurst380 (Reply 31):
Nice pictures

Thanks!

Quoting kdhurst380 (Reply 31):
so sorry to hear though, that you had to unroll your own cutlery. Anyone would think you weren't alive and well enough to do it yourself.

Well, it's nice to dive straight into your dinner without having to worry about wrestling with the napkin! ON a more realistic note, with First class, I would expect the table to be laid properly, rather than just have a load of knives and forks rolled up in a napkin. It can't be that hard, with a max 8 pax!
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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Sun May 13, 2012 8:56 pm

Perfect report. Thanks for sharing it with us - TG's ex-BKK F experience remains my favorite in the world. And, I am going to have Thai food after seeing all of it in your report!

Saludos,
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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Sun May 13, 2012 11:17 pm

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 33):
Perfect report

Thanks Alex!

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 33):
Thanks for sharing it with us - TG's ex-BKK F experience remains my favorite in the world

Yes, it;s a pretty good operation there

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 33):
And, I am going to have Thai food after seeing all of it in your report!

Bon Appétit!
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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Mon May 14, 2012 6:42 am

Hi Gabriel!

Very nice report with very nice pictures!

It seems that the ground experience in Bangkok is unrivaled anywhere on any airline from what I can see.

I disagree with you on Dom Perignon; it's the only champagne that's sweet enough for me. All the other brands are too dry.

Very odd that they would not have the overhead bins since they go in to the ceiling.

Thanks again for a nice report!

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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Mon May 14, 2012 10:02 am

Hi Gabriel,

Loved to read your reports about your trip to SE Asia. This one reminds me of my last trip (FCO-BKK-HKG-BKK-MXP) I took in February on TG in F. I really appreciated the massage after my overnight flight from Rome.

Thanks again for this report,
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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Mon May 14, 2012 10:21 am

Quoting The777Man (Reply 35):
Very nice report with very nice pictures!

Thanks!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 35):
It seems that the ground experience in Bangkok is unrivaled anywhere on any airline from what I can see.

yes, I think it's probably one of the best Worldwide

Quoting The777Man (Reply 35):
Very odd that they would not have the overhead bins since they go in to the ceiling.

Completely agree! Very annoying not having anywhere to store your bag near your seat

Quoting agrflyer (Reply 36):
Loved to read your reports about your trip to SE Asia. This one reminds me of my last trip (FCO-BKK-HKG-BKK-MXP) I took in February on TG in F. I really appreciated the massage after my overnight flight from Rome.

Glad you like the report - will you be writing a TR?

Quoting agrflyer (Reply 36):
Thanks again for this report,

No problem!
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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Mon May 14, 2012 1:07 pm

Hello Gab,

Thanks for taking the time to fully document this nice piece of flying, eating, drinking,... The undergone experience looks top notch to me. It better be if you pony up a huge amount of money to fly in the ‘cabin of the elites’   Even if for the little things that lack, like a stupid teapot, I think Thai does a very good job here. I very much liked the pre-flight happenings (especially the massage), it’s a nice way of feeling welcome and exclusive as well. The nervous fliers would certainly get a bit at ease with this treatment prior to the flight.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I logged onto the TG wesbite to select my “Book the Cook” for the first meal service

So will you explain this nitwit (= me) what all this is about? Is it some sort of ‘book your meal in advance’ service. And does that ‘booked cook’ then make the meals à la minute on board?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
And no, there was no happy ending

How come I’m really surprised   

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Boeing 777-35RER HS-TKH “Darabha” (previously VT-JEB)

Saw this Jet Boeing multiple times at BRU some years ago.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Pyjamas and slippers. I used the slippers, but the pjs are now in my collection, complete with plastic wrapping.

No wonder when they have that nasty light blue colour... Stylish purple would’ve been much better.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Privacy and space, after all, is the most sought after thing on a plane, is it not?

If you really want privacy and space you should book a private jet  

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
By this stage in the day, I was tired, and a bit drunk.

Drunk I understand but tired? You had a bed, Pj’s, slippers and nothing to do but watch television?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Story on the new Berlin Airport, which is now delayed indefinitely

Sad sad story that is.

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Mon May 14, 2012 6:55 pm

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 38):

Thanks for taking the time to fully document this nice piece of flying, eating, drinking,..

No problem

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 38):
The undergone experience looks top notch to me

Yes, it was

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 38):
I very much liked the pre-flight happenings (especially the massage), it’s a nice way of feeling welcome and exclusive as well. The nervous fliers would certainly get a bit at ease with this treatment prior to the flight.

Yeah, it's a great way to start a flight

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 38):
So will you explain this nitwit (= me) what all this is about? Is it some sort of ‘book your meal in advance’ service. And does that ‘booked cook’ then make the meals à la minute on board?

Yes, you can pre-book a meal in advance. There's no chef onboard, they just arrange it nicely for you.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 38):
No wonder when they have that nasty light blue colour... Stylish purple would’ve been much better.

Yeah, purple would have been better

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 38):
If you really want privacy and space you should book a private jet

Yeah, but a private jet costs more than 31,000 miles!

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 38):
Drunk I understand but tired? You had a bed, Pj’s, slippers and nothing to do but watch television?

It's tiring travelling First class!
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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Tue May 15, 2012 5:44 am

Hi once again, Gabriel.

After trudging through mud, clipping the edges of mountains, mistaking gates for toilets, how nice to see a completely different world of travel. And Thai does present a different world: from the private check-in, the exclusive lounge and to massage offerings to the on-board service.

Interesting to see that the Jet logo appears on screen and that the moving map is in German, as befits a flight to Germany.

I did notice the rolled up cutlery and while it is a simple matter to take it out oneself, it is more common to see the table set as one would in a restaurant. Leaving the cutlery in the napkin is more befitting Business. It is a trivial matter perhaps, but an airline which sells "luxury experience" needs to attend to the little things as well as the big things, like getting you their alive.

I know what you mean about the crew lacking a certain ‘je ne sais quois’. I flew four sectors in F to MAD with another airline and on three sectors the warmth and spontaneity of the crew could be felt, while on the last sector it wasn't there. The actual on-board service was first class and nothing was too much to ask, but the feeling was somehow different.

With regard to lounge access at FRA your logic may not be the same as LH's. Their logic may be that you have access to the lounge according to the cabin class in which you are departing, not the class in which you are arriving. As your flight to DUS was Business (First not being offered intra-Europe), the Business Class Lounge it is. And they wouldn't be the only airline to say only First Class ticket holders on their airline have access. Still, if you know that you should have had access a different lounge according to the rules, then a letter to LH might be appropriate.

I am impressed with the meal on the flight to DUS. It is quite substantial for such a short flight. The marketing on the box of chocolates is quite clever too.

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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Tue May 15, 2012 3:25 pm

Hi Roy,

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 40):
After trudging through mud, clipping the edges of mountains, mistaking gates for toilets, how nice to see a completely different world of travel. And Thai does present a different world: from the private check-in, the exclusive lounge and to massage offerings to the on-board service.

Yes, this certainlyis the way to travel!

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 40):
moving map is in German, as befits a flight to Germany.

Yes, the map was in English, Thai and German

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 40):
I did notice the rolled up cutlery and while it is a simple matter to take it out oneself, it is more common to see the table set as one would in a restaurant. Leaving the cutlery in the napkin is more befitting Business. It is a trivial matter perhaps, but an airline which sells "luxury experience" needs to attend to the little things as well as the big things, like getting you their alive.

Yes, it's the little things that make with worth spending such money on First Class. Sure, a tea pot and a laid table is a triviality compared to many things, they are part of the experience as a whole.

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 40):
I am impressed with the meal on the flight to DUS. It is quite substantial for such a short flight. The marketing on the box of chocolates is quite clever too.

Yes, the meal was quite nice. Service was good to, although at the expense of the Y class pax!
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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Wed May 16, 2012 7:19 pm

Hi Gabriel,

I have greatly enjoyed all your installments of this great trip. Really amazing and so interesting. Thanks for taking the time to let us all be part of it.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
For various reasons I ended up staying in 4 hotels over my 5 nights. I know, quite ridiculous, but there we go. (Honestly, there were good reasons for such extensive hotel changing!)

One question: which was your favorite ( from the amount of pictures I would imagine the Meridien?)
But how was the Baan K residence by Blison?


Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I won’t bore you with the details, but the massage was an hour of airport luxury! (And no, there was no happy ending). With the massage done, I thanked my masseuse, and enjoyed a shower in the adjacent room, before heading back to the spa’s lounge. There was a little cordoned off area for First class passengers, where I was invited to sit in. I was given a survey to fill in, whilst I had a peppermint tea and some snacks

That must be really great. Thank you for the nice pics. The ambiance looks really luxurious and serene.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I tried to put my (not terribly big) backpack under the leg rest, but it wouldn’t fit all the way. The Lady came over and said I could put it in the locker behind my seat/cabin divider curtain….except that it was already full. The only other space was in the locker in front of seat 1A (so the other side of the cabin). I ended up having to slot it in on top of someone else’s bag. I found the whole thing very awkward. I like being able to get stuff out of the locker when I fancy. Having to walk through the galley, and to the other side of the cabin to get something out of my bag is not what I had in mind for First Class. Still, the bag was now stowed.

This is really almost unbelievable. Who designed this set-up? Not well thought out!      

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
The 77W was very comfortable. After seeing so many pictures of suites, it was great to be able to finally fly on one long-haul on a good airline. Having your own private suite is the closest you can get to decadence on a plane without having a private jet I’m sure. The seat was very comfy, together with the duvet and pillows. The catering too was excellent in most regards. A more extensive snack basket (i.e. more than just sandwiches) would have been appreciated. The one thing that lacked sparkle for me, however, was the staff. Sure they did everything by the book, and were polite and helpful, but they lacked a certain ‘je ne sais quois’. I must have got through 6 or 7 cans of water during the flights, mostly between meals, but not once was I proactively offered a can. Despite only having 5 passengers in F, there was no proactive offer of extra drinks and snacks during the flight either. Compared to the Swiss F staff coming back from DAR to ZRH, whom I built a rapport with very quickly, or even the SQ business crew, I got off the plane in FRA without having interacted properly with the staff at all, something I do enjoy on a long-haul premium flight. Like I said there was nothing wrong with the crew in terms of what they did, just the “read between the lines” sort of stuff that was missing. Not having the option of “dine on demand” as offered my many other First Classes was not a disappointment, just a bit of a surprise, much like the mystery of the missing teapot.

I am guessing here, but could it be the design of the suite insofar as the did not want to intrude on your privacy?
I think this is a really a shortcoming on the suite design. And additionally the Thais are extremely polite and mindful of someone's space and privacy.
I hope THAI will get a better designed FC seat on their new, own planes.
  

Thanks again for your great effort and work!

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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Wed May 16, 2012 8:39 pm

Hi, Gabriel.

superb well done.
Such a high number of quality pictures and you´re story. Really good.
I especially like also your BKK hotel comparison. Definitely my style.
Thai F looks like nice, but also very interesting to follow you´re conclusion.
Same with me and FRA/DUS. Nothing special yet.

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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Thu May 17, 2012 1:35 pm

Quoting RTWFlyer (Reply 42):
I have greatly enjoyed all your installments of this great trip. Really amazing and so interesting. Thanks for taking the time to let us all be part of it.

Thanks, glad you liked it!

Quoting RTWFlyer (Reply 42):

One question: which was your favorite ( from the amount of pictures I would imagine the Meridien?)
But how was the Baan K residence by Blison?

Best room: Meridien
Best bed/sleep: Baan K
Best breakafast: Furama

The Baan K was good, but lacked the facilites of a big hotel

Quoting RTWFlyer (Reply 42):
That must be really great. Thank you for the nice pics. The ambiance looks really luxurious and serene.

Yes, it was very luxurious (for an airport)

Quoting RTWFlyer (Reply 42):
This is really almost unbelievable. Who designed this set-up? Not well thought out!

No, very poorly done

Quoting RTWFlyer (Reply 42):
I am guessing here, but could it be the design of the suite insofar as the did not want to intrude on your privacy?

The suite is designed so from seat level you can't see anything, but standing in the aisle, you can see something (I guess for security reasons). Also, there is a "Do not disturb" sign, so no reason not to come and offer me a drink!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 43):
superb well done.

Thanks Markus

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 43):
I especially like also your BKK hotel comparison. Definitely my style.

Yes, was nice to sample a few hotels

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 43):
Thai F looks like nice, but also very interesting to follow you´re conclusion.

Yes, was very good overall, but not quite perfect.
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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Thu May 17, 2012 6:31 pm

Hi Gabriel.

Superb report and (almost) finish to your adventure. Did you say you were away for 6 weeks in total? Anyway... by sheer volume of delicious booze and food within this report I am feeling awfully dejected in Saudi Arabia now!

In general it is going well. Sort of like the Wild wild West. Anyway...

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
What happened next was definitely the most serene check in experience of my life. My bags were wheeled off to a screened off area, whilst I was escorted to a collection of arm chairs. Within a few seconds of sitting down, a beautifully folded cold towel, and some very tasty tea-like drink were placed on the table.

This looks brilliant and is an innovative way to conduct First class check in.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
(And no, there was no happy ending).

haha... this would have serious professional misconduct. In some peoples eyes.....

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
As I was walking back to the lounge I caught sight of this:

something quite comical about this luring in from the Singapore Girl...

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
And then comes the famed caviar course, served expertly by my two crew (photo taken with permission).

This looks very ceremonial. And the tin looks tiny. Delicious. I have never tried (good) caviar.

I did think the glassware looked quite nice actually... all in eye of beholder. That said at the moment I would drink alcohol from a coconut shell at the moment.

Hope all ist zer gut.

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Fri May 18, 2012 8:36 am

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 45):

Superb report and (almost) finish to your adventure.

Thanks Luke!

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 45):
Did you say you were away for 6 weeks in total?

Yes, about 6 weeks

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 45):
Anyway... by sheer volume of delicious booze and food within this report I am feeling awfully dejected in Saudi Arabia now!
In general it is going well. Sort of like the Wild wild West. Anyway...

Good to hear everything is going well out there. I'm sure your liver is happy!

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 45):
This looks brilliant and is an innovative way to conduct First class check in.

Yes, very brilliant

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 45):
This looks very ceremonial. And the tin looks tiny. Delicious. I have never tried (good) caviar.

It was delicious, although I have no way to judge if it was particularly "good" caviar

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 45):
I did think the glassware looked quite nice actually... all in eye of beholder. That said at the moment I would drink alcohol from a coconut shell at the moment.

Maybe drinking it out of a coconut shell would be the perfect disguise!
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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Sun May 20, 2012 12:37 pm

Hi Gabriel,
Another excellent report with great pictures! TG F looks pretty good! Like the pictures from Bangkok too!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Bangkok Hotel #1, Furama Xclusive Silom. GBP 27/night including breakfast.
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Bangkok Hotel #2, Le Meridien. GBP 83/night
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Bangkok Hotel #3, Feung Nakorn Rooms. GBP 28/night including breakfast
Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Bangkok Hotel #4, Baan K residence by Blison. GBP 40/night including breakfast

Nice hotels, and not at all pricey, nice!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Here%u2019s a selection

Looks good

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I found War Horse, something I%u2019d wanted to see on the previous leg, but it was too long. It was very good %u2013 high recommended, even if it is a bit sad.

Liked it myself too!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Nice exotic line-up

One of the things I love about FRA!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
And we’re down. Once again we land on the new distant runway. I can’t remember the last time I landed on one of the old runways

You're pretty unlucky there then! I sometimes get the new one and sometimes the "closer" ones

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
As I mentioned in my December report in Munich, this doesn’t work well. There was an announcement for Business/*G etc, but of course everyone just swamped the gate. I guess the last to board would be families with small children, and the elderly. In addition, a lot of people had issues scanning their boarding passes (the guy in front was scanning his the wrong way up), so it took even longer to get on board.

Don't totally agree with you there, speaking in my own experiences of course, firstly the ground agent gets the families with children and people who need special assistance. Then the scanning of your own BPs, well of course there always are people who dont completely understand it (but there is a ground agent to assist you right away), but it mostly goes quite swiftly. As to the priority boarding, that is almost always done poorly indeed. But then of course I am speaking in my own experiences, you have had different ones unfortunately!

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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Mon May 21, 2012 4:22 pm

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 47):
Another excellent report with great pictures! TG F looks pretty good! Like the pictures from Bangkok too!

Thanks Brendan

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 47):
One of the things I love about FRA!

Yes, one of the few redeeming feature - it's got a lot of interesting airlines

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 47):
Don't totally agree with you there, speaking in my own experiences of course, firstly the ground agent gets the families with children and people who need special assistance. Then the scanning of your own BPs, well of course there always are people who dont completely understand it (but there is a ground agent to assist you right away), but it mostly goes quite swiftly. As to the priority boarding, that is almost always done poorly indeed. But then of course I am speaking in my own experiences, you have had different ones unfortunately!

I don't know why they had it such a mess. LH used to be so good at boarding....
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RE: Part 11: Thai First BKK-FRA B77W, LH C FRA-DUS

Tue May 22, 2012 8:00 pm

Great read GC, most enjoyable!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
For various reasons I ended up staying in 4 hotels over my 5 nights. I know, quite ridiculous

- Indeed, seems quite a pain to me.....

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Honestly, there were good reasons for such extensive hotel changing

- I should hope so, I suspect points related?

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
My first issue with the layout was the lack of storage space. There are no overhead lockers in First. Yes, it makes the cabin very spacious, but there is nowhere to put stuff

- Hmm, not keen on the lack of stowage.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I tried to put my (not terribly big) backpack under the leg rest, but it wouldn’t fit all the way. The Lady came over and said I could put it in the locker behind my seat/cabin divider curtain….except that it was already full. The only other space was in the locker in front of seat 1A (so the other side of the cabin). I ended up having to slot it in on top of someone else’s bag. I found the whole thing very awkward. I like being able to get stuff out of the locker when I fancy. Having to walk through the galley, and to the other side of the cabin to get something out of my bag is not what I had in mind for First Class.

- Not a first class experience IMO!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
I had a hunt in my magazine pocket to try and locate the IFE guide. It was nowhere to be found (and neither was the safety card). I stopped the Gentleman serving in First about these. He apologised explaining that as the plane is only leased by Thai, there is no IFE guide

- Most odd given these planes wound be a short term stop gap.

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Being a *A First class passenger, logic would dictate that I should be allowed into the Lufthansa First Class lounge. Unfortunately, LH is much like SQ in that they don’t like customers from other airlines. Research concluded that only LH/LX First/HON pax could use the First Class lounge

- That's poor, it's like LH saying none of our partners are good enough to use our facilities, very poor LH!

Quoting gabrielchew (Thread starter):
Not feeling terribly hungry, I was looking forward to the meal service more out of curiosity than need. For EUR 318, I guess this isn’t too bad! Quite nice actually. Fruit cake thing, salad, ham, bread roll.

- Not bad for such a short flight!

Cheers

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