sfflyer123
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Swiss Business A330 New York JFK To Zurich ZRH

Sat May 12, 2012 3:38 pm

I had a business trip to Zurich, and I flew LX. I was in New York for business before this trip, so I just flew non-stop JFK to ZRH instead of flying back to SFO and taking the SFO-ZRH non-stop. My company paid for the business class ticket, so I don't know how much it cost. I tried to use my miles to upgrade to first class, but there was no availability according to the ANA tool.

LX's business class, however, is simply excellent. The single seats are completely single; they really almost like a first class seat with nobody on either side of you. The seat is 100% lie-flat also, not angled lie flat.

I must say that flights from East Coast to Europe are simply too short. By the time you eat and get settled in for sleep, you only have about 3 hours to sleep before breakfast. The flight is only 7 hours, which is only 1 hour longer than a flight from the East Coast of the USA to California. Ideal is California to Europe, which is a 10 hour flight. That gives you a nice solid 7 or so hours of sleep during the flight.

My complete trip report is here in commercial-free video format, as I always exclusively do now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qso8Mb8Npro

I have also included some photos so you can get an idea of the experience:


seat 4K by sfflyer123, on Flickr


champagne pre flight by sfflyer123, on Flickr


quollfrisch beer and cashews by sfflyer123, on Flickr


chicken, rice, broccoli by sfflyer123, on Flickr


cheese by sfflyer123, on Flickr


espresso and dessert by sfflyer123, on Flickr

Again, the complete trip report is on my commercial-free video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qso8Mb8Npro

I hope you enjoy it. Thanks for watching!
 
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RE: Swiss Business A330 New York JFK To Zurich ZRH

Sat May 12, 2012 5:04 pm

Another fantastic video report! Keep them coming.
 
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RE: Swiss Business A330 New York JFK To Zurich ZRH

Sat May 12, 2012 5:49 pm

hi,

great report, thanks.

I find myself flying LX more and more. Initially for business then after falling in love with it I use it for personal flights as well. There is something very simple and clean about it. Not comparing it to, say CX's new J seat because that's a different market

Quoting sfflyer123 (Thread starter):
I must say that flights from East Coast to Europe are simply too short. By the time you eat and get settled in for sleep, you only have about 3 hours to sleep before breakfast. The flight is only 7 hours, which is only 1 hour longer than a flight from the East Coast of the USA to California. Ideal is California to Europe, which is a 10 hour flight. That gives you a nice solid 7 or so hours of sleep during the flight.

I am in complete agreement. unless my needs require NYC I try to get to another location further into America even if it means a longer layover, or hope that the pre-departure lounge offers a good enough pre-meal service / spread so I can get on, relax, sleep, wake up to breakfast and either relax with a movie or get some work done. can't stand the East coast-Europe flights (going back isn't as bad because you land about the time you departed)

I digress... Thank you for the report, I didn't use to be a fan of video reports, but im definetly coming around to them now.

i like that there is some humor thrown in- "throne" seat! (no pun intended)  
If it's a night service I would pick the isle only side table seat because the armrest goes down by the window providing a a touch more wiggle room without fear of going into the traffic lane, and if it was a day service i would pick the 'throne' seat for the extra work space! my 2cents

thanks,
~Cheers-
~~Kyle
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RE: Swiss Business A330 New York JFK To Zurich ZRH

Sat May 12, 2012 9:09 pm

HI

Another nice video report you have there. LX seems great as usual. Just the overcrowded J-lounge in JFK.

The 'Dine and recline' option looks very interesting for these shorter hops as well. I guess quite a bit of pax choose it.

Greetings
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RE: Swiss Business A330 New York JFK To Zurich ZRH

Sun May 13, 2012 4:28 am

Thank you for sharing your experience.
LX lounge in T4 is always crowded in the evening, not only with LX Pax but with other STAR GOLD pax they carry.

Try LH lounge in T1, which they've renovated. Much better atmosphere as less people and a proper (champagne) bar!
Food and snack by Do&Co but not really heavy. Still, you will eat your dinner on board.

It must be nightmare going back to fly domestic NYC-SFO! I hate US domestic travel  
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RE: Swiss Business A330 New York JFK To Zurich ZRH

Sun May 13, 2012 6:38 am

Hi Sfflyer123

As usual, another great TR! LX business is certainly very nice. I have only experienced the older product, back in 2006 on the SIN-BKK-SIN sector.

As good as it looks, I hope one day you get to experience (and do a TR of course) of SQ's Business Class!

Cheers
Coal
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RE: Swiss Business A330 New York JFK To Zurich ZRH

Sun May 13, 2012 3:06 pm

Quoting caleb1 (Reply 1):
Another fantastic video report! Keep them coming.

Thanks for the comment and the kind words.

Quoting alaskaqantas (Reply 2):
I am in complete agreement. unless my needs require NYC I try to get to another location further into America even if it means a longer layover, or hope that the pre-departure lounge offers a good enough pre-meal service / spread so I can get on, relax, sleep, wake up to breakfast and either relax with a movie or get some work done. can't stand the East coast-Europe flights (going back isn't as bad because you land about the time you departed)

I digress... Thank you for the report, I didn't use to be a fan of video reports, but im definetly coming around to them now.

i like that there is some humor thrown in- "throne" seat! (no pun intended)
If it's a night service I would pick the isle only side table seat because the armrest goes down by the window providing a a touch more wiggle room without fear of going into the traffic lane, and if it was a day service i would pick the 'throne' seat for the extra work space! my 2cents

thanks,
~Cheers-
~~Kyle

Yes, in many ways, I want to skip to meal to sleep, but then I miss out on so much of the "business class experience" by sleeping through all the food! It's a dilemma for me. Yeah, the throne seat is very nice. I flew this SFO-ZRH once, and it was spectacular. However, unless you have a lot of papers, one really doesn't need all that space. 4K is perfectly fine. Thanks for the comment!

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 3):
The 'Dine and recline' option looks very interesting for these shorter hops as well. I guess quite a bit of pax choose it.

Yes, that seems very nice, but I wanted the "full" business class meal service experience. If I were exhausted and hungry, I may have just done that. Thanks for the comment!

Quoting nethkt (Reply 4):
Try LH lounge in T1, which they've renovated. Much better atmosphere as less people and a proper (champagne) bar!
Food and snack by Do&Co but not really heavy. Still, you will eat your dinner on board.

It must be nightmare going back to fly domestic NYC-SFO! I hate US domestic travel

This is great to know. I'll check this out next time. Yeah, US domestic travel is not so nice. Only the United PS service is comfortable enough that it can be compared to a business class international product.

Quoting Coal (Reply 5):
Hi Sfflyer123

As usual, another great TR! LX business is certainly very nice. I have only experienced the older product, back in 2006 on the SIN-BKK-SIN sector.

As good as it looks, I hope one day you get to experience (and do a TR of course) of SQ's Business Class!

Thank you very much. I have flown in SQ's business class, and I must say, that I was disappointed. The seat is incredibly hard and uncomfortable. The bed is fine, but you have to get up and do all these convoluted steps to turn it into a bed. But sitting down is very uncomfortable on the SQ seat--you cannot lean back to any significant degree, and the seat hurts your butt after a while because it's so hard. The food on SQ was just okay. They have a beautiful presentation and very nice plating, but the food is okay or less than okay. Nothing to write home about. Perhaps their first class product is where they really shine. Thanks for the comment!
 
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RE: Swiss Business A330 New York JFK To Zurich ZRH

Sun May 13, 2012 10:29 pm

Another great video, Sfflyer123!

Looks like you had a really nice flight with LX in J Class. I'd say it definitely sticks out to being one of the best Business Class products out there. Food looks to be really good, and the seat looks awesome!

Looking forward to your next video!

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RE: Swiss Business A330 New York JFK To Zurich ZRH

Sun May 13, 2012 11:09 pm

Nice report. Thanks for sharing. What is that dessert?

Also, I am shocked at the breakfast ... looks like something LH would serve!

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RE: Swiss Business A330 New York JFK To Zurich ZRH

Mon May 14, 2012 1:01 pm

Quoting sfflyer123 (Reply 6):
Nothing to write home about.

Sacrilege! (   I am the ultimate diehard SQ fan). I found the seat uncomfy only because it is so wide, but not because it was hard at all. I also never found it fussy at all to turn into a bed. I really like the space at the sides.

I'm surprised you didn't like the food, but I am gonna take a guess that you didn't Book The Cook? The lobster thermidor and the beef tournedos are fantastic!

Cheers
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RE: Swiss Business A330 New York JFK To Zurich ZRH

Tue May 15, 2012 1:01 am

What's in the clear cup for dessert...with the brown on top?
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RE: Swiss Business A330 New York JFK To Zurich ZRH

Tue May 15, 2012 1:03 pm

Quoting 767747 (Reply 7):
Another great video, Sfflyer123!

Looks like you had a really nice flight with LX in J Class. I'd say it definitely sticks out to being one of the best Business Class products out there. Food looks to be really good, and the seat looks awesome!

Looking forward to your next video!

Best,

Matthew (767747)

Thanks very much, Matthew, for your nice comment!

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 8):
Nice report. Thanks for sharing. What is that dessert?

Also, I am shocked at the breakfast ... looks like something LH would serve!

Saludos,
A.

Yeah, isn't that breakfast not awesome at all? The dessert is panna cotta with ginger cookie crumble and maple syrup. Thanks for the comment!

Quoting Coal (Reply 9):
Sacrilege! ( I am the ultimate diehard SQ fan). I found the seat uncomfy only because it is so wide, but not because it was hard at all. I also never found it fussy at all to turn into a bed. I really like the space at the sides.

I'm surprised you didn't like the food, but I am gonna take a guess that you didn't Book The Cook? The lobster thermidor and the beef tournedos are fantastic!

Cheers
Coal

Yeah, I know. I was expecting SQ to be mind-blowing. But I did book the cook once, and it was just okay. I decided to try the regular menu, and it was not very good. Beautiful presentation, but not very good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqb65rPhGjk&feature=plcp

I wanted to get the lobster thermidor but it was not available! I think they only had it first class on SFO-HKG. Thanks for the comment!

Quoting N126DL (Reply 10):
What's in the clear cup for dessert...with the brown on top?

panna cotta with ginger cookie crumble and maple syrup. Thanks.

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