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Mates And Muffins! HEL-TXL/SXF-BRU-TLL-HEL

Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:16 pm

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Background

According to new research we humans spend up to thirty percent of the time we are awake interacting with other individuals. This phenomenon - a need to interact with others - is also something that characterizes most aircraft enthusiasts. Judging the number of Airliners.net meetings held at various airports during the last years speak a clear language and I knew that I had to join one of these meetings at some stage. The perfect opportunity was presented in January when a group of fellow-minded people decided to host a meet at Stockholm Arlanda Airport. Because of school and family reasons I was unfortunately unable to join the event back then and it really was a no-brainer to put my name on the list of participants when the idea of a BER meet came up.

Unfortunately I wasn't going to be able to fly into Berlin already on Saturday evening as it was my last day of school and without going into any further details it was a day that I now have many nice memories of, I spent the evening with some great friends. All this made me even more eager to celebrate the beginning of my summer holiday with a trip to Berlin. But the way to here had been quite bumpy, right? Let's take a look at everything my booking department had gone through during the last couple of months:

As you might have noticed reading my trip reports I prefer to fly the Boeing 717 always when possible. A look into the options of getting to Berlin revealed the following alternatives
1) fly nonstop on Air Berlin with a price tag of 60 EUR
2) choose Air Baltic and go via Riga for 65 EUR
3) make a booking with Blue1 and SAS flying via Copenhagen for 70 EUR

Did I say Blue1? And the Boeing 717 on to CPH? I was sold. HEL-CPH-BER was quickly booked and was definitely great value with 35 EUR per segment. Another added silver lining was that the CPH-BER segment was scheduled to be operated by the CRJ-900 that I have tried logging twice and failed miserably both times. I decided to wait a couple of days before booking any return flights as some other travel plans needed some final touches as well.

That ended up being a good idea as not many days later I got a message from Blue1 saying that flight schedules had changed. In this case it meant that my transfer time in Copenhagen was reduced to 10 minutes (!). I hadn't been booked on any other flights - I only read "connection is not possible" on my booking page.
Solution? A call to Blue1, a discussion with a lovely girl and rebooked on HEL-ARN-BER instead with a much better schedule. Unfortunately, the Boeing 717 had been replaced by an ATR and the CRJ-900 was also gone (why does these changes keep happening to me?) but I really couldn't complain as it had been replaced by a Boeing 737-600, another rare type missing from my log.

Looking for return options my main goal was to spend one night in Berlin or another city and catch one or two new aircraft types on the way home. So I happened to notice Estonian Air (that airline with the gorgeous livery and free muffins) selling BRU-TLL-HEL tickets for 75 EUR for my preferred date. And it would include the CRJ-900 and the Saab 340, yet two new aircraft types!

The dots were connected by a very reasonable 30 EUR easyJet ticket and I was ready to go for my first ever A.net meeting! Or so I thought. At first I thought the news about the opening of BER airport being postponed was a big (and very bad) joke - but nope - it was reality. This meant that my onward flight with the orange airline would now leave from SXF - Schönefeld would be a new airport for me but still it would cut my time at the meeting even shorter. At least there was something positive about this flight: I later learned that fellow flier Marc would be joining me on U2 4707!

After all these changes I thought my routing would look like this:

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Pre-flight

Online check-in worked like a charm 22 hours ahead of departure for my Blue1 and SAS flights (what else would you expect from the world's most punctual airline) and I succesfully select my seats for both segments. Despite being there immediately when OLCI opens there isn't many seats to choose from on the HEL-ARN leg, indicating money is being made on tomorrow's flight:



When I arrive home to print out the boarding passes (no chance to do so earlier) OLCI is no longer available - an error message is shown and I am asked to contact staff at the airport. I smell some surprises in store for me here!

Sunday 03.06.2012

Still remembering the 04.45 a.m. flight I experienced on BT some weeks ago (and the shock horror of booking myself again on that flight quite soon) a comfortable 09.20 a.m. departure this morning was simply luxury. Or so one would have thought. This time I decided to sacrifice my sleep-in until 7.00 a.m. and listen to the screaming tone of my wake up call(s) a bit earlier to be able to meet a certain person (nope, not an A.netter) in time for her flight.

Public transportation still doesn't work very well from my house to the airport early mornings (and specially not on Sundays) and the only available options leave me arriving to the airport only some 50 minutes ahead of departure. Knowing that I still possibly had some check-in issues to solve I was more than happy when my father presented the offer we would drive to the airport by car instead.

The cheapest outside parking lot is full (no wonder considering this is the first day of holiday for thousands of others as well) but P5, the second cheapest option is available for 15 EUR per day (rip-off, but good value considering Finavia is in control here). After leaving the car there I see a command I need to obey:

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The hike to the airport continues by foot and when I see this rural landscape in front I think of a certain song:

Sur le pont d'Avignon
L'on y danse, l'on y danse
Sur le pont d'Avignon
L'on y danse tous en rond


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Eventually, I see the well-known Blue1 headquarters in front of me and by turning my head a little bit to the left Terminal 1 of Helsinki-Vantaa International Airport is there as well:

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The Blue1 baggage drop-off counters (not that I have anything else to drop-off than a question about problems with their systems) are (wo)manned and very little queue. I think of Petteri when I hear the conversation a couple ahead of me are having.
Agent: "So here are your boarding passes to Edinburgh, have a nice flight. Unfortunately your flight is leaving from gate 32, so if you haven't got any exercice today then now you will. I am sorry about this, but all airport operators have their faults, no?"
Couple: "What do you mean by exercice?"
Agent: "You'll get to walk through the whole airport. Hope you don't get lost on the way and once again my apologies!"

Soon it is my turn and I explain my situation to the agent. She soon lights up. "Yes, we have a special offer in store for you today! The Blue1 flight to Stockholm is quite heavily overbooked today and we thought you might be interested in taking the nonstop Lufthansa flight to Berlin instead". I have two questions on my mind: 1) isn't today the inaugural Lufthansa flight to BER and 2) will there be any compensation. As she answers yes to both my questions we decide to volunteer. She isn't able to do anything yet though and asks us to contact the staff at the gate instead as there is a couple of large families onboard and their top priority is to get these guys off the flight (I learn they are flying HEL-ARN-CDG and the new promised routing would be a nonstop Finnair flight around the original departure time. Apparently they can't rebook on KF/SK as all their flights are fully booked today (and someone said SAS is losing money?).

Soon I realize what time it is, thank the gate agent, rush upstairs through security control just in time to see the person I was about to meet getting her boarding pass scanned at the gate as the last passenger (why, Blue1, why do you guys always need to leave so early? a little chat would have been nice?) but the gate agent at the (un)lucky gate of 13 just smiles when I ask her to hold the flight for a minute and at least I get a hug. The flight still pushes back more than 10 minutes ahead of scheduled so I hope they're not mad at me! Next stop is gate 13A, assigned gate for my flight to Stockholm. There I learn from the same agent that checked me in that one family took the offer of moving, the other didn't and that I should wait until everyone have boarded. "We at Blue1 want you never to be bored" is her explanation. "Feel free to sit down at the nearby café, I will come and talk to you then and thanks again for volunteering!" is what she says next and I really can't stay mad can I?

The flight boards early (what else on Blue1?) and soon Mrs. Sunshine (an appropriate name for the gate agent) approaches us. "Everyone has already boarded and now we are still overbooked by one so I will be needing your help". I ask her whether this means my father and I should travel separately. "Of course not, I have no problem in rebooking both of you and so there will be one free seat on the Stockholm flight, specially dedicated to you guys!). Superb customer service and moments later we have also chosen to go for the vouchers (a total compensation of 300 EUR) instead of half the amount in cash.

The globally known print-all-flights-on-a-single-piece-of-paper boarding pass is soon in her possession. She invites us to follow her to the Lufthansa gate as well (apparently she is handling that flight also - what a conincidence!) where she will check us in. I ask her if it would be possible to get a window seat near the front of the aircraft and once again the answer is "of course!". Moments later we are handed our new boarding passes with sequence numbers 70 and 71, not a fully booked flight today then. Seat 5E and 5F are perfect for us and she also assures that 5D should stay empty.

My new flight:

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And soon comes the best part - the vouchers, delivered with "greetings from the girls at the ticketing department". Finally, after years of trying, I have two of them in my hands!

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Moments later I notice my name is not correctly written on them - as sure as my first name begins with the letter R it is not Robert - and I let Mrs. Sunshine know about this. She assures me that despite vouchers are personal it should be no big deal but she promises to get it changed.

After this it is time to get in the "inaugural mood" as they are starting to set up a table near the gate area. Of course I go there to have a closer look at the offerings!

There's a nice lady guarding the table:

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No cake, but coffee and dougnuts (with lots of filling!):

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I'm happy to see this poster is still featuring the good old Lufthansa slogan instead of the boring "nonstop you":

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Soon I spot something familiar landing on runway 15 (no, not the Finnair plane!):

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It is D-AIBB, a new one for my log, named after the city of Aalen east of Stuttgart and it is arriving well ahead of scheduled:

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I start counting the deboarding passengers (there's not very many of them!) but immediately stop when I see a familiar looking hat emerging from the jetway. Could it be? Yes, it is the one and only Flying Finn. What follows is my first (and definitely shortest) A.net meet - we shake hands and exchange a couple of phrases before he has to continue - at least it was nice meeting you! Perhaps with more time next time?

A moment later I also spot fellow A.netter AYA333 chatting with some guys from the Finnish flight forum - of course I shake hands with them as well!

Soon we get other things to think about as my first ever ribbon cutting ceremony is about to begin! The purser and captain on the flight are particing as well as a smartly dressed gentleman from Lufthansa and a girl from HEL ground handling:

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I can feel the joy:

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Having cut the ribbon they do it once again for the press and I also decide to enjoy the photo opportunities:

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No speech, no music - I have mixed feelings for how Lufthansa did in HEL - but as it was my first time boarding an inaugural flight I will not complain!

Soon they announce "we are ready to board in 10 minutes" which changes to "we're ready to board now" a minute later. All of a sudden Mrs. Sunshine appears from nowhere and my father and I follow her to an empty podium, skipping to whole queue where she scans our boarding passes and returns the frequent flier cards I had given her earlier to be put in the system. I take this opportunity to thank her for the great service and she really seems to appreciate the feedback.

LH2975
Lufthansa
HEL-TXL
D-AIBB, Airbus A319, "Aalen"
Seat 5F, Economy
10.25-11.25 (10.17-10.59)

I am welcomed on board by purser Ania. She remains friendly throughout the flight but never makes any attempt at creating a connection, showing a smile or going that little extra mile. But that is Lufthansa - in good and bad!

I pass through the couple of rows of business class:

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...and soon find the nice view available from my seat:

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The plane is fitted with the new thin seats and leg room is quite okay:

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As everyone has boarded we get a nice and detailed welcome speech by our captain. Flight time is announced to be a short 1 hour 40 minutes (compare it to 2h00min in the schedules!) and weather in Berlin is expected to be cloudy with temperature + 14 °C (perfect for a curry wurst, no?). The nice guy behind the controls also tells us to "enjoy the service" which makes my expecations high - did I hear right? But then again it is true that you never know what plane you end up in when you fly BT and neither can you ever be sure what will be served onboard your Lufthansa flight. That's a surprise factor for you!

After everyone has boarded the German cabin crew get a schock when Mrs. Sunshine rushes onboard, reaches my row and exclaims: "I missed you too much, come with me and fly Blue1 instead!". Our purser eyes her like she would be a maniac so she calms down and hands me the voucher, this time carrying my right name - "I almost forgot to give it to you at the gate!" to which I say "No, I forgot to pick it up!". "No, I... anyway, have a great time and see you soon I hope!" she says before wishing Ania and colleagues auf wiedersehen.

Ania repeats the same information as the captain told us moments earlier and soon we push back at 10.17, eight minutes early, no wonder considering the early and low-loaded inbound.

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Hello, 757:

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Around our scheduled departure time we lift off from the ground - bye HEL:

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Clouds over the capital region:

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Next it is time for the mandatory SeatPocket Check (TM):

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Mysteriously, the thin Lufthansa Magazin as well as the small safety card were later discovered in my backpack... how did that happen?

Soon, the seatbelt sign is switched off and sitting in front of the plane really does have its advantages as it doesn't take many minutes before Ania arrives at my row with the service trolley. She asks "Cheese or ham?" so I guess we will only get a sandwich so I am surprised as we get this... goodie bag:

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Unwrapped, service really is a mixed bag (pun intended):

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In addition to the sandwich there is a delicious almond cookie, a chocolate bear and some cough sweets I decided to save for later consumption. Soft drinks are free as well.

A second drinks run is also made, this time a cup of coffee fits in nicely (despite being served in such a boring cup):

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Unwrapping the sandwich I find quite a simple and a bit dry one - but still okay and way better than nothing at all!

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Enjoying the nice views in this café:

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Also a look back in the bus - load was around 60 % with lots of empty seats in the front - we were the only passengers on row 4 and row 5 remained empty as well.

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The rest of the flight is spent relaxing while enjoying the views (no dropdown screens on this Airbus) and I also read what used to be a great airline magazine - nowadays it has much lower standards but still better than most other magazines (and the airline featured on the first page is very nice, of course):

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Soon land comes into sight and the seat belt sign is turned on.

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Yes please, rather than nuclear power:

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We fly over some quite densely populated areas...

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...before kissing the ground

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... and braking for a succesful landing at TXL!

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Hello, countryman:

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Dedicated to PlaneHunter:

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We arrive and park at a gate at 10.59, 26 minutes ahead of scheduled, well done I must say! I let everyone else disembark first before asking Ania about the possibility of taking a cabin picture. "Of course!" is her answer, but she doesn't get my joke whether she wants to be in the picture or not...

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A friendly, but still not overly enthusiastic goodbye from the crew and some moments later I am out in the public.

Next up is mission "find the others". Together with Jani (AYA333) and my father we first ask for directions to the observation deck (I didn't even know it was still open!) and soon we find it. But just before entering we see some familiar looking faces near the Ess-Bahn (the place to be at Tegel, obviously).

After taking this photo of something that soon is no more (if we can believe that BER really will open on 17MAR)...

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... I am introduced to a lovely bunch of people. I can't possibly remember who was the first one I shoke hands with - but I am sure it was a really nice person! Hannah, Nils, Blaž, Johannes, Gabriel, Oliver, William and Marco were all there when we arrived but soon other respected A.netters such as Suryo, Eric, PlaneHunter, Robert, Robin and Marc also joined us! Many new persons, many nice discussions, interesting flights... we have a great time, that's for sure!

Thank you to everyone for making my first A.net meet such a memorable experience! And thanks to Blaž for the souvenir - I guess I should be planning a trip to LJU soon?  

A while after taking a group photo it is time for me and my father to get going - it's never easy to say goodbye but easier when you know there is a next time we will meet again!. We hop on a fully loaded TXL-bus bound for the Hauptbahnhof - one of the few German words that are part of my (bad) German.

A couple of shots from Berlin (a lovely city - once again my stay there was w-a-y too short!).

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Not sure what these guys are lying there for - no sunshine to be seen:

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The Reichstag:

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Here it is, the main railway station in Berlin:

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After having purchased a ticket we notice there is still almost half an hour till the next express train to Schönefeld so we sit down for a pizza:

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TIDS:

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The old-fashioned cabin:

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After a train ride of some 20 minutes and walking through some dark and stinky corridors I finally locate the airport building and find my flight on the monitors located outside:

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Beautiful, or...?

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Three reasons why you should not fly from Schönefeld

1). The guys at the security control must be the most grumpy guys I've ver seen - they look at me like I would be out of my mind when I greet them and they inspect my home-printed boarding pass thoroughly. Finally they let me through and it almost seems like they are disapointed that I passed without a beep! Well, good for me.

2). Next we are forced to go up some stairs and there's no elevator insight - what about passengers with special needs?

3). Schönefeld is another one of those airports where you end up in the middle of a tax free store when you are trying to locate your gate. And your gate is of course not announced yet - the monitor only lists "please wait". The whole atmosphere is quite depressed with people sitting on the floor, the smell of burned bread is coming from one of the few eateries available....

Finally, some 45 minutes ahead of departure they announce my gate - A63 - which of course is in the very other end of the bunker. Eventually I arrive there, show my boarding pass, try to locate Marc but can't find him, line up for boarding, get in the first bus together with speedy boarders and off we go.

In the end we stop in front off G-EZPG, a new one for my log:

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The other half of the plane:

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No doubt who is the big player here:

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Almost inside:

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U2 4707
easyJet
SXF-BRU
G-EZPG, Airbus A319
Seat 6F, Economy
17.00-18.30 (16.59-18.20)

Inside, a very chirpy female crew member welcomes me onboard, takes a look at my boarding pass (easyJet is the only airline I've flown with that does this) and compliments me on my orange shirt - well thank you!  

Hmm, what could be a nice seat:

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As I liked the view and atmosphere of seat 5F so much this morning I decided to do the same again - only with a small twist so that you readers won't be bored so 6F it is:

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View towards the front before the second bus arrived:

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First, our captain Roman is on the speakers. He assures us that "Thomas and his fantastic crew" will take good care of us today and that thanks to headwinds our flying time to Brussels is only 1 hour 10 minutes. Weather in Brussels is expected to be "the same as here, but even worse". Finally he expects our engines to be running within five minutes, which also means an on time departure.

The crew onboard today's flight is very jolly - each crew member is introduced by name and our purser refers to "your extremely good-looking easyJet crew" many times during the flight. Even further he knows all announcements by heart and he seems to love being on the microphone - we hear all kinds of stuff including that easyJet loves customers and that if we want to look as good as the cabin crew we should buy stuff from their in flight sales sortiment....

We push back one minute early at 16.59 and dig into the grey skies from runway 25 after a short taxi. As expected, the load is a 100 % with a slim Belgian girl on the aisle seat.

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Swimming pools, anyone?

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Easyjet planes are shining when skies are grey..

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... and they shine even more when the sky is blue!

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Service is BOB, as expected but wait....

717Flyer's Big Official Buy On Board Muffin Test

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Inspired by Robin's choice of meal onboard his LTN-SXF flight the very same morning I decided it was more than appropriate to go for the muffin combo as well. Thomas was more than happy to fulfill this request and my choice between a lovely blueberry muffin or a wonderful chocolate muffin ends up being the later one. I decide to take coffee to go with it.

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Somehow I manage to pour some milk on the tray table when trying to put it in my coffee cup instead - but the purser is there in a second.

"Here, let me give you some napkins to clean it up".
"Thank you!"
"Would you like more milk to go with your coffee?"
"No, I'm fine thank you".
"Are you sure? More napkins? Is there anything else I can get for you?"

That is not something you would expect to hear on a low-cost flight but once again easyJet proved that it is all about the crews!

Unwrapping the muffin:

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- The muffin is priced at 2,50 EUR which is an acceptable price considering the generous amount. I also find the combo options a nice extra in the easyJet BOB sortiment! (RATING: 4/5)

- When it comes to looks the packaging does not stand out of the crowd but when you unveil the muffin itself it does look fluffy and asks you to eat it!   (RATING: 3.5/5)

- First impression: A moist muffin with large bits of dark chocolate - I'm in heaven! (RATING: 5/5)

- The consistence isn't the same all through the muffin - a bit drier at the end and the portion is almost a bit too big! But a nice experience nevertheless. (RATING: 4/5)

OVERALL: 4,25/5

Previous 717FBOBOBMT™s
1. Air Baltic, Mantinga muffin with Chocolate Drops, average score 4.5/5
2. easyJet (you are reading it right now), average score 4.25/5
3. Flybe, Mont Mabel’s Milk Chocolate Muffin, average score 4/5
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Hey, we're not alone:

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Taking a look at the small, but for me still bearable leg room:

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And in case everyting doesn't go as planned you need this piece of paper:

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Soon descent is announced, seat belt sign is put on and our purser makes the standard announcements in his very personal style.

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All of a sudden, land comes in sight:

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The landing is very smooth - specially when taking into consideration the weather conditions:

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During taxi, our purser sings a bit of a song to us both in German and English about goodbyes and of course he also points out our early arrival as one of the perks of flying easyJet.

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Finally, as we reach our parking position and he announces "Ding dong, last stop of the line, everyobody get off please" everyone is laughing. Way to go, easyJet! The purser gets many nice comments by passengers at the door and I tell him that "You were great, I wish all cabin crews would be like you!".

Marc and I are the last ones onboard and while he makes a cockpit visit I take some cabin pictures:

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Finally our lovely purser insists I take a photo with him, the two other male crew members working in the back of the cabin are also invited - and voilà! I'm not going to post the outcome here - but it's a funny picture for sure. The
 
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RE: Mates And Muffins! HEL-TXL/SXF-BRU-TLL-HEL

Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:18 pm

Finally our lovely purser insists I take a photo with him, the two other male crew members working in the back of the cabin are also invited - and voilà! I'm not going to post the outcome here - but it's a funny picture for sure. Then, like this wouldn't be enough the purser invites me to take a peek into the cockpit as well "if you have the courage to ask the man behind the controls, that is".

I am brave, we have a nice little chat with the captain that had been flying orange for six years and here's proof of my visit "to the office":

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Finally a really nice goodbye - what an amazing flight!  http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/B717Flyer/IMG_3393.jpg

Even the dispatcher wishes us "welcome back soon" so looks like the whole easy team were having a great day!

Walking towards the terminal building (oh - the perks of flying easyJet...) with Marc we wonder if this is Nils' plane:

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... but that is of course not the case as I learn his plane is an Avro and - we had landed so early that Marc's fellow countryman was still in the air...

Thanks to Marc we eventually manage to locate Nils' arrival gate - A50 - and form a welcome committee there. With some good advice from their side a couple of lost Finns even manage to find the way to the train platforms, jump on a nasty old train to Brussels Centraal... and eventually arrive at their hotel after some detours in the rain. Thanks again Marc and Nils - it was nice meeting you!

After circling in the rain for a good hour or so a hotel room sounds like a great idea and indeed our decently-priced (60 EUR including American breakfast) room at Bedford Hotel looks really nice and inviting:

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Window view:

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After this there's only two things left on my mind: 1) to do OLCI for my Estonian Air flights tomorrow and 2) see the Manneken Pis.

But which one is it, this one...

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... or this one?  http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/B717Flyer/IMG_3403.jpg

Finally I can't resist having a quick look at the central square in Brussels - Grote Markt!

On my way there:

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Beautiful:

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Then. Back to the hotel. Eat a sandwich. Sleep. More sleep. Sweet dreams about a great day.

Monday 04.06.2012

After a perfectly comfortable wake up call at 08.00 a.m. and a filling buffet breakfast enjoyed in the hotel breakfast room it is time for a little bit of a sidetrip (not by plane, though) to Brugge - also known as the Venice of the North. Despite the terrible weather and delayed trains we manage to enjoy some really nice views there - I will mostly let the pictures speak for themselves here. Oh, and the 50 minutes or so on the train was nicely spent starting to write the very report you are reading now!

This is what we see not many steps from the railway station, I immediately started to like this place:

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On our way to the oval-shaped historic centre of Brugge (that of course is an UNESCO World Heritage Site) I see this fellow tourist with... well... an interesting outfit:

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The Church of Our Lady is a good landmark in case you get lost on the narrow streets in Brugge:

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Without any further intentions of going there we soon find ourselves on the Markt (the main square):

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The Belfry - definitely one of the city's symbols:

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Soon we find a nice brasserie where we sit down to escape the rain and the cold winds for a moment and I enjoy a schnitzel:

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Some last canal views on our view back to the railway station:

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Oops, what happened here:

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Dedicated to Jonas:

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Yes, this is the train station:

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Onboard (once again running quite a bit late...)

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...but this adorable sign inside the train makes up for quite a bit of the delay:

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At the Brussels Centraal station we head out for a little walk, enjoy some delicious Belgian waffles (too hungry - no photo), buy a ticket for the airport express train and finally arrive way too early at the airport with more than 2 hours to departure. Unfortunately the boarding pass printouts from the hotel are no good and the lady scanning boarding passes before admission further sends us back to check in - bugger! There is quite a bit of queue with lots of Estonians with loads of luggage and the agent definitely is surprised that we 1) have no bags to check in and that 2) we need a reprint.

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My precious piece of cardboard:

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We definitely get some exercice on our way to our gate but eventually we find it and a question from the gate agent reveals that the inbound flight is approaching the airport at this very minute so our flight should be fine as well (if the landing is succesful...)

Well, hello:

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Boarding is finally called slightly late, lots of business passengers around, but most importantly, our plane looks so cute:

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Down the jetway, down the stairs and a little walk to this blue cutie:

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Yes! Yes! It really is a -900 series!

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OV178
Estonian Air
BRU-TLL
ES-ACB, CRJ-900
Seat 20A, Economy
19.45-23.15 (19.47-23.06)

A major déjà-vu from when I last boarded an airBaltic flight in the middle of the night without getting any greeting at all soon occurs - a stare and "tere" to our female FA wakes her up and in the end she even nods. This seems to be the trend on Estonian Air as the second FA (also female) stays in the lavatory during boarding and is fixing her make-up. Impressive, or not...

At least the plane is in a good shape and the seats look inviting:

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Some sensitive airlines have no row 13 on their aircraft while those airlines that have it might have some crucial part missing - for example a window:

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Here's 20A, my seat:

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Immediately, I fall in love with the wing view:

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To be a regional jet, I'm impressed by the leg room as well.

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No description needed:

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And a happy looking gentleman on the inflight magazine (later found at home in my backpack...):

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Cabin view, notice 1) the modern overhead panels and 2) the military appearance of the FA:

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Nothing happens for a while as everyone has taken their seat. The load is quite good, 90 % and soon our female captain is on the speakers! In contrast to the cabin crew she sounds really happy and enthusiastic when welcoming us onboard the flight. Flying time announced as 2 hours 15 minutes. She also introduces both our cabin crew members by name - not that it would make them any more relaxed. During pre-departure checks one of them sighs loudly when she discovers my photo-taking. Well thank you!

The plane is also awfully hot (I smell an APU not being on...) but finally we push back two minutes late at 19.47. Our five-minute-taxi to runway 25R is fast and soon a bumpy take-off and climb follows.

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A busy road intersection:

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Not many interesting articles in the inflight magazine but a nice feature about a fashion show organized onboard an OV 737-500:

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Cabin view:

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Soon I decide to find something more interesting to read from my backpack - this:

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After having pretty much emptied the seat pocket (the safety card screamed to be liberated) I decide to leave the publication there - mostly because it features a huge Blue1 ad on the second page.  http://i1112.photobucket.com/albums/k494/B717Flyer/IMG_3510.jpg

It takes forever before the service trolley reaches my row. At first I thought OV had done some serious cutbacks as I found a BOB menu in the seat pocket...

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...but in the end there is free service. Soft drinks, coffee and a sandwhich with mayonnaise, salad and tomatoes.

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The sandwich tastes quite alright even though I am not a big fan of mayonnaise but the coffee is disgusting - it tastes like petrol. Anyway I am happy Estonian Air has not yet decided to go BOB-only.

Soon I forget all about this as some amazing views are available outside. I spot more than ten passengers taking pictures of the beautiful sunset - the expression on the FA's face is quite priceless actually but in the end she doesn't bother to complain.

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Land in sight:

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No further information from the flight deck during the flight and soon the seat belt sign is switched on. The beautiful views are still the same though:

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Brakes, Captain!

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Look, even the moon is wishing us welcome to Estonia:

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Our landing is rough...

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... and our taxi is very fast which is greatly appreciated as I don't have an extra minute for my connection:

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For a change I'm one of the first ones to leave the plane (I'm not in the mood of spending a night at TLL - even if it would have been financed by Estonian Air) and once again only a nod from the flight attendant at the door, not impressed as you might have noticed already.

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Entering the terminal building I put on my cell phone and notice the time is 23.10 so we arrived some five minutes early and boarding for my flight to Helsinki should begin at this very moment. Indeed I locate my next gate (7) some meters away and boarding is already underway. At first I am scared that we will board the Embraer parked at the end of the jetway (one of the reasons for booking this connection was sampling my first ever Saab aircraft!) so luckily we go down stairs and board a bus instead.

We drive off immediately and I count only 14 passengers in the bus, a low load even for the 33-seater Saab:

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I notice only one Saab being parked on the apron at this time - it is the special HockeyBird plane - but we happily drive past it which makes me quite worried (the seat map during OLCI was definitely showing a 1-2 seat layout and the right number of rows as well) so judge how surprised I am when we actually stop in front of the plane and the bus driver opens the doors:

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Not only is it an ATR 42 (a type desperately missing in my log) but the older -300 version! LY-ARI is carrying Danish Air Transport stickers all the way despite operating for DOT LT (an airline founded as Danu Oro Transportas). I guess it kinda makes sense as DAT is the main shareholder in DOT. At this moment I couldn't care less that I missed my Saab 340 and happily board as the last passenger.

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OV617
Estonian Air operated by DOT LT
TLL-HEL
LY-ARI, ATR 42-300
Seat 10D, Window
23.40-00.10 (23.44-00.14)

Inside, a cute, young, blonde, friendly, Danish FA greets me. Despite being close to midnight she's shining like the sun and laughs when she sees my photo taking - quite alright so far!

Cabin view, you really wouldn't know that this aircraft is already some 25 years old:

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My seat is featuring a spicy DAT logo:

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There's two flight attendants onboard today, both female; one older Estonian is hiding in front of the plane all flight and does nothing else than the welcome announcement while the Danish girl does the rest of the job. We are welcomed onboard this "Estonian Air flight operated by DOT LT" and flight time is announced as 25 minutes. We still wait for some late bags to be delivered until we push back some four minutes late.

The leg room is tight but I guess I can stand it for such a short flight:

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A nice part of my safety card collection now:

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Cabin view, indeed the load is only some 20 %, wonder how Estonian Air is planning to make money on the HEL route?

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Not my ride tonight:

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With the low load it doesn't take long before we dig into the skies from runway 08.

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Service on this short hop is impressive: first a water run is made, followed by some Estonian Kalev chocolates - you definitely couldn't wish for more on a flight of this duration!

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Not a word from the flight deck during the flight but our great Danish friend soon announces landing to HEL in five minutes...

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...and indeed we touch the ground on runway 15 right on our scheduled arrival time.

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One of the greatest mysteries of man kind is why Estonian Air is using terminal 2 at HEL (shouldn't they be lounging in T1 together with their EuroBonus buddies from KF?) and so we won't park on the regular commuter apron but have quite a lengthy taxi to some weird place...

When we finally get there some four minutes later everyone gets up in a minute and the Danish FA allows me to take a cabin shot by saying "Please do so, it is a nice plane for sure!".

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Despite everyone is waiting in the bus we have a nice chat - she wonders about my aviation hobby and I wonder a bit about the airline she's flying for. Finally we wish each other a good night and I take this last shot of our trusted plane before entering the bus:

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Conclusion

The true identity of an airline is only revealed when everything does not go as planned. This is exactly what happened on Blue1 and I was very impressed by how the situation was handled. We were always kept updated, many apologies were made and some jokes were thrown in as well. And who can resist 300 EUR in vouchers? My favourite airline remains.

It was a very special feeling to be part of my first ever inaugural flight. Even though Lufthansa could have done a little bit (actually much) more to promote the new route I boarded the flight with a smile on my face. Otherwise straight from the crew handbook: efficient service without any attempt of being personal but of course without being rude. Service conducted = manager is happy = most customers are happy = I am not convinced Lufthansa will be my primary choice next time.

easyJet once again showed me how wonderful fyling can be at its best. Definitely the best flight I had on this trip!

The new airline - Estonian Air - did quite well as well. For a very good fare they offered me a comfortable connection via TLL - an airport I would love to connect at also in the future. Finally I also got to tick off the CRJ-900 from "things to do during my life" list. Crews were quite mediocre but the CRJ was clean and nice with some free service - I definitely see BT and OV are trying hard to compete against each other. I don't know which one I prefer. Let's wait until one of them introduces the Boeing 717. Finally, my flight on DOT is something I will remember for a l-o-o-n-g time - the ambience onboard, the seats, the aircraft, everything reminded me of how fascinating it is that we humans actually can fly! The cute FA was perhaps the best part and made me wish the 20-minute flight would have been a bit longer. Full points to DOT!

Those of you who have been paying attention now ask the question "717Flyer, why did you talk about muffins in plural in the name of the report - you only mentioned one here". Then let me tell you I think of the A.net meeting as a muffin: you never know what it tastes like on the inside. This time, the A.net meet was such a special experience that it will be just like an excellent muffin - a memory I will cherish for a long time.

Coming up in a week or so: My first rides on two well-known and large Boeings as well as some boutique carriers from the Middle East. Stay tuned!

Thank you for reading this far & please prove it by writing a comment.

Regards,
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RE: Mates And Muffins! HEL-TXL/SXF-BRU-TLL-HEL

Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:47 pm

Excellent report, thanks for sharing! Looks like you got very lucky, flying an inaugural flight without even planning to...

I'm always surprised by how inviting "domestic" European travel is. The same stage lengths in the US would have barely received free soft drink service, certainly no sandwiches, chocolates, or snacks...

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Oops, what happened here:

That's quite odd... The N-Number on the tail is the same one carried by the Beechcraft Bonanza that crashed in 1959 killing the musician Buddy Holly. The plane has certainly been dressed up to look like a 35 Bonanza, but the fuselage almost looks like it was once a Mooney. Interesting...
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RE: Mates And Muffins! HEL-TXL/SXF-BRU-TLL-HEL

Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:53 pm

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
I see this fellow tourist with... well... an interesting outfit:

Obvioulsy American... who else would wear 'safari' clothes whilst walking through a historic European city!

Thanks for providing a great TR, I really enjoyed reading it.

Cheers!
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RE: Mates And Muffins! HEL-TXL/SXF-BRU-TLL-HEL

Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:07 pm

Great report

I really should go a bit more to the norhern and eastern European country's so I can fly the likes of Estonian.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Three reasons why you should not fly from Schönefeld

For me personally I don't think Schonefeld is that bad, granted, it is not the best airport in the world, but a bit better then Tegel since at least they have the centralised security rather then at the gate.
And ofcourse they will not invest in this airport anymore, it shouldn't have been open anymore right now.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Some sensitive airlines have no row 13 on their aircraft while those airlines that have it might have some crucial part missing - for example a window:

Ouch, that is my worst nightmare that I someday get an assigned window seat without a window, Transvertragia, Dutch 'low' cost airliner and Norwegian have the same in their 737 planes, not good!
 
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RE: Mates And Muffins! HEL-TXL/SXF-BRU-TLL-HEL

Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:09 pm

Hey 717Flyer, nice report!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Unfortunately I wasn't going to be able to fly into Berlin already on Saturday evening as it was my last day of school

Hmm, how come you have school on saturdays?

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
3) make a booking with Blue1 and SAS flying via Copenhagen for 70 EUR

Now that's a no-brainer, I'd have gone for that in a jiffy too!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Superb customer service and moments later we have also chosen to go for the vouchers (a total compensation of 300 EUR) instead of half the amount in cash.

Wow, that's some very good compensation. Was your father kind enough to let you keep his voucher?

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
No cake, but coffee and dougnuts (with lots of filling!):

Actually they're not any doughnuts, but Berliner doughnuts!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
It is D-AIBB, a new one for my log, named after the city of Aalen east of Stuttgart and it is arriving well ahead of scheduled:

Ah look there comes the FlyingFinn76! BB seems to be the plane that operated the route for that particular day.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
After everyone has boarded the German cabin crew get a schock when Mrs. Sunshine rushes onboard, reaches my row and exclaims:

Wow, talk about great customer service! Decided what to do with those vouchers?  
Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
no dropdown screens on this Airbus)

Yeah no LH planes have those screens, not even the brand new ones. LX do however...

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
(easyJet is the only airline I've flown with that does this)

Ryanair does it also, and honestly I don't see a point for LCCs to do so. However on long haul flights it's a norm that they check the BP's during boarding for obvious reasons  

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RE: Mates And Muffins! HEL-TXL/SXF-BRU-TLL-HEL

Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:18 pm

Hi Rasmus. Wow this must have taken every bit of time to produce since you arrived home! Very efficient! I enjoyed meeting you and your Dad as well and it was too bad the time was too short. I am glad that you got the vouchers for future travel. That will be used well I am sure. I too love the OV livery but it is too bad that the crew were so "cold"...maybe they are the ones that needed the currywurst!   Some fantastic photos! Again it was a pleasure to meet you and I hope our paths cross again soon in the future! Cheers, Will
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Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:58 pm

Hi 717Flyer!

Nice report, just as usual!
Seems like you guys had a great time at the a.net meeting, too bad I couldn't join this time.
Good to see you had a great flight on easyJet, quite the contrast of my only flight with them.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):

No cake, but coffee and dougnuts (with lots of filling!):

Nice touch.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):

I'm happy to see this poster is still featuring the good old Lufthansa slogan instead of the boring "nonstop you":

I must say I agree. I love the "There's no better way to fly" slogan!

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Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:14 pm

very nice trip report!! I love estonian air.!! my previous flights with them has been very pleasant and the crj 900 was lovely.. on the tll-hel flight it was funny that in such a short flight they would give you candies.... candies that you wont be able to finish even if you have already landed in helsinki... not unles you chew them..... keep it up!! waiting for your next TR
 
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Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:25 pm

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
takes a look at my boarding pass (easyJet is the only airline I've flown with that does this)

This is normal for UK airlines to do this - and given U2 is using G- registered (UK) aircraft and I believe a UK AOC they have to stick to the checking boarding pass rules on every flight. It's not too much of a problem and at least they know you're on the right plane/flight and you are the right person  

Very nice trip report - and €300 in vouchers per person for taking a LH inaugural flight rather than an SK flight plus excellent ground crew there! You were lucky!

I aim to attend the next meeting hopefully, though I don't fly commercially enough at the moment to write enough trip reports to keep up with you all! (the next one will be August on BA MAN-LHR-BOS-LHR-MAN) - looks good, I also hope to fly through TXL for the first & last time in the future as I was going to before it was meant to close but exams got in the way, TXL has always intrigued me!

Look forward to your next trip,
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Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:23 am

Hi 717Flyer,

very enjoyable report about your journey to/from Berlin! Good to meet you, but too bad we didn't have any time to talk. You had suddenly disappeared. Well, next time!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
The flight boards early (what else on Blue1?) and soon Mrs. Sunshine (an appropriate name for the gate agent) approaches us. "Everyone has already boarded and now we are still overbooked by one so I will be needing your help". I ask her whether this means my father and I should travel separately. "Of course not, I have no problem in rebooking both of you and so there will be one free seat on the Stockholm flight, specially dedicated to you guys!). Superb customer service and moments later we have also chosen to go for the vouchers (a total compensation of 300 EUR) instead of half the amount in cash.

Very nice surprise!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
I'm happy to see this poster is still featuring the good old Lufthansa slogan instead of the boring "nonstop you":

I have to agree, that new slogan sounds cheap.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Yes please, rather than nuclear power:

How about that deal - you get our wind turbines, we get your most modern nuclear power plants!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Dedicated to PlaneHunter:

Wow, thank you! I saw that plane, but didn't get the registration!    I flew MXP-CTA on EI-ESG, btw.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Hannah, Nils, Bla%u017E, Johannes, Gabriel, Oliver, William and Marco were all there when we arrived but soon other respected A.netters such as Suryo, Eric, PlaneHunter, Robert, Robin and Marc also joined us! Many new persons, many nice discussions, interesting flights... we have a great time, that's for sure!

  

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Three reasons why you should not fly from Schönefeld

1). The guys at the security control must be the most grumpy guys I've ver seen - they look at me like I would be out of my mind when I greet them and they inspect my home-printed boarding pass thoroughly. Finally they let me through and it almost seems like they are disapointed that I passed without a beep! Well, good for me.

2). Next we are forced to go up some stairs and there's no elevator insight - what about passengers with special needs?

3). Schönefeld is another one of those airports where you end up in the middle of a tax free store when you are trying to locate your gate. And your gate is of course not announced yet - the monitor only lists "please wait". The whole atmosphere is quite depressed with people sitting on the floor, the smell of burned bread is coming from one of the few eateries available....

That sounds really bad! I have never flown to/from SXF.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
- The muffin is priced at 2,50 EUR which is an acceptable price considering the generous amount. I also find the combo options a nice extra in the easyJet BOB sortiment! (RATING: 4/5)

- When it comes to looks the packaging does not stand out of the crowd but when you unveil the muffin itself it does look fluffy and asks you to eat it! (RATING: 3.5/5)

- First impression: A moist muffin with large bits of dark chocolate - I'm in heaven! (RATING: 5/5)

- The consistence isn't the same all through the muffin - a bit drier at the end and the portion is almost a bit too big! But a nice experience nevertheless. (RATING: 4/5)

OVERALL: 4,25/5

Previous 717FBOBOBMT™s
1. Air Baltic, Mantinga muffin with Chocolate Drops, average score 4.5/5
2. easyJet (you are reading it right now), average score 4.25/5
3. Flybe, Mont Mabel’s Milk Chocolate Muffin, average score 4/5

Cool stuff, as usual!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Soon we find a nice brasserie where we sit down to escape the rain and the cold winds for a moment and I enjoy a schnitzel:

That looks a bit small!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Not only is it an ATR 42 (a type desperately missing in my log) but the older -300 version! LY-ARI is carrying Danish Air Transport stickers all the way despite operating for DOT LT (an airline founded as Danu Oro Transportas). I guess it kinda makes sense as DAT is the main shareholder in DOT. At this moment I couldn't care less that I missed my Saab 340 and happily board as the last passenger.

Very interesting type (still missing in my log) and rare carrier - very nice!


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Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:33 am

Hi 717Flyer,

A very pleasant read that was my friend! It’s nice to see your account of the flights taken to get to the muff... err meet. KF messed up upon overbooking but saved your day by bumping you off and providing you with some travel vouchers. Great of course and weel taken care of, but suren you missed out on another 717 flight. Then easyJet with the jolly crew, I don’t know what to think of that. Earlier this year I had a jolly and happy crew as well on a Ryanair flight, but the more the flight progressed, the more disturbing I found the crew’s ‘feelgood’ behaviour. Too many announcements, too loud,... I’m glad however it didn’t disturb you (ooh, am sounding like a grumpy old man now probably  ). Estonian did a nice job - good you got that sleek and sexy CRJ900 - and bonus point on scoring the the ATR!
Of course I have some more comments  :

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
I have two questions on my mind: 1) isn't today the inaugural Lufthansa flight to BER and 2) will there be any compensation. As she answers yes to both my questions we decide to volunteer.

You had luck and bad luck it seems. Still do you think it doesn’t cost more to redistribute the bumped pax and give them vouchers then not to overbook the flight? Just a thought...

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
and someone said SAS is losing money?

Of course you don’t really know what prices have been paid for the tickets (except for your own of course).

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
a total compensation of 300 EUR
Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Finally, after years of trying, I have two of them in my hands!

Very good, so that’s a few SAS/Blue1 trips in the making?

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
No cake, but coffee and dougnuts

No muffins?

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Yes, it is the one and only Flying Finn.

The poor fellow, had to come home and miss out on al the fun on Sunday. Very good however that you met him!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
We fly over some quite densely populated areas...

You were sitting on the wrong right side of the plane. Left side had the best Berlin views ever  

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Here it is, the main railway station in Berlin:

Quite a modern looking building. Is it a big station?

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Beautiful, or...?

No, just a plain ugly terminal. A true reminiscence of past times.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
A63

Wow, does SXF really has

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
All of a sudden, land comes in sight:

Good to see you had the quite rare 25R approach as well. Must’ve had something to do with the poor visibility that evening.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
I am brave, we have a nice little chat with the captain that had been flying orange for six years and here's proof of my visit "to the office"

Good on you. The guys at ‘easy’ are usually quite ‘easy’ with cockpit visits.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
with Marc we wonder if this is Nils' plane

Like you said, I had a nice and sweet Jumbolino  

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Thanks again Marc and Nils - it was nice meeting you!

The pleasure was all mine  

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
The Church of Our Lady is a good landmark

I wonder why all you tourists keep on choosing Brugge as their primary Belgian destination. There are a few other cities that are at least as niceas or even nicer. Next time: ask me as a guide, I have favorable rates   And I don’t think that church is named that way ha ha ha!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Yes! Yes! It really is a -900 series!

One HEL of a good looking bird in the Estonian colours!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
At this moment I couldn't care less that I missed my Saab 340 and happily board as the last passenger.

I totally agree! A nice change for the better as they say.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
This time, the A.net meet was such a special experience that it will be just like an excellent muffin - a memory I will cherish for a long time.

Sweet.

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Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:59 pm

Hi 717Flyer,

great report with some very nice pictures. Really enjoyed it very much. It was nice to meet you there in Berlin. And looks like you had some nice flights as well, an interesting itinerary you have put together here.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
And soon comes the best part - the vouchers, delivered with "greetings from the girls at the ticketing department". Finally, after years of trying, I have two of them in my hands!

Congrats, that's a very good compensation for the hassle. Well done here by Blue1. And for sure a nice surprise to accidentally get on an inaugural flight. And even with some a.net company, nice.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
No cake, but coffee and dougnuts (with lots of filling!):

Do you know these things are actually called 'Berliner' in Germany, so a quite appropriate offer for a flight to Berlin. (Actually they are called Berliner everywhere in Germany except in Berlin, where they are called pancakes   )

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
It is D-AIBB, a new one for my log, named after the city of Aalen east of Stuttgart and it is arriving well ahead of scheduled:

Nice, I took this very same plane on the afternoon flight to ARN.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
After everyone has boarded the German cabin crew get a schock when Mrs. Sunshine rushes onboard, reaches my row and exclaims: "I missed you too much, come with me and fly Blue1 instead!".

Wow, that's nice. I can only imagine the face of the LH flight attendant after this   ...

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
In addition to the sandwich there is a delicious almond cookie, a chocolate bear and some cough sweets I decided to save for later consumption.

We got almost the same thing on our afternoon flight, except we got an apple instead of the cookie (too bad, I would have preferred the cookie, as most other passengers probably, since almost noone ate the apple)

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Many new persons, many nice discussions, interesting flights... we have a great time, that's for sure!

  

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
takes a look at my boarding pass (easyJet is the only airline I've flown with that does this)

Well, FR does this as well. I guess when they board many flights at the same time they want to make sure nobody get lost during the walk on the apron and end up on a wrong flight.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Finally a really nice goodbye - what an amazing flight!

Indeed, a nice crew can make such a difference.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
see the Manneken Pis.

In my opinion the most overrated tourist attraction in the world. This thing is so small, what is so special about it? Well, maybe to watch the bunch of far-eastern tourists all trying to get pictures at the same time   ...

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
our plane looks so cute:

Indeed, a very nice livery.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
how surprised I am when we actually stop in front of the plane and the bus driver opens the doors:

Wow, another nice surprise, sure a plane that is not so easy to catch.

Thanks again for this report, greetings and until the next meeting

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Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:32 pm

Thanks for sharing! OV is indeed not a very covered airline here.
I booked some out of this world itinerary on them from Hannover to Tbilisi sometime in October, while HAJ-TLL is on the E70 and the TLL-TBS in the middle of the night on the CR9. While I would not mind getting the AT4 it could be somehow difficult to fly on that to TBS   The routing is even more weird because it has a 6 hour layover in TLL...

However your report gives me a first insight. I'll probably get that sandwich, too... unless they start the BOB until then. Doesnt makes any sense to have a BOB menu if no BOB exisits. Maybe this is in addition to the free service?
 
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Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:41 pm

The best routes so so far to and from Berlin a.net meeting. Very interesting choice of airlines and routes. Seems like an good idea to go with Blue1 and Estonian...
 
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Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:20 pm

Hello 717Flyer

Very interesting and entertaining report with lots of surprises!
Intersting that EasyJet came out on top compared to the other "full" service airlines.

Best regards,
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Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:14 am

KPWMSpotter, TravelsUK, ozzietukker, Jonas, Will, Martin, filoflyer, Jamie, PlaneHunter, Nils, CaptainRed, reifel, CARST, LXM83 ,

Quoting KPWMSpotter (Reply 2):
Excellent report, thanks for sharing!
Quoting TravelsUK (Reply 3):
Thanks for providing a great TR, I really enjoyed reading it.
Quoting ozzietukker (Reply 4):
Great report
Quoting LH4116 (Reply 5):
Hey 717Flyer, nice report!
Quoting globalflyer (Reply 6):
Some fantastic photos!
Quoting deltamartin (Reply 7):
Nice report, just as usual!
Quoting filoflyer (Reply 8):
very nice trip report!!
Quoting planejamie (Reply 9):
Very nice trip report
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
very enjoyable report about your journey to/from Berlin!
Quoting Sultanils (Reply 11):
A very pleasant read that was my friend!
Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 12):
great report with some very nice pictures. Really enjoyed it very much.
Quoting reifel (Reply 13):
Thanks for sharing!
Quoting LXM83 (Reply 15):
Very interesting and entertaining report with lots of surprises!

Thank you all for your kind comments and I am glad to hear you all enjoyed the report!

Quoting KPWMSpotter (Reply 2):
That's quite odd... The N-Number on the tail is the same one carried by the Beechcraft Bonanza that crashed in 1959 killing the musician Buddy Holly. The plane has certainly been dressed up to look like a 35 Bonanza, but the fuselage almost looks like it was once a Mooney. Interesting...


Really? Well this sheds some light on it, good to know.

Quoting TravelsUK (Reply 3):
Obvioulsy American... who else would wear 'safari' clothes whilst walking through a historic European city!

I guess so, but you can never be sure!  
Quoting ozzietukker (Reply 4):
For me personally I don't think Schonefeld is that bad, granted, it is not the best airport in the world, but a bit better then Tegel since at least they have the centralised security rather then at the gate.
And ofcourse they will not invest in this airport anymore, it shouldn't have been open anymore right now.

Sure you have a point here, I may have exagerated a little just to make my point clear. And indeed security control at the gate is a very frustrating affair - I know.

Quoting ozzietukker (Reply 4):
Ouch, that is my worst nightmare that I someday get an assigned window seat without a window, Transvertragia, Dutch 'low' cost airliner and Norwegian have the same in their 737 planes, not good!

True, these rows should be specially marked on the seat maps - not recommended to anyone with claustrophobia!

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 5):
Hmm, how come you have school on saturdays?

We don't normally have school on Saturdays - but this was our "våravslutning" so quite a step from having normal lessons...

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 5):
Wow, that's some very good compensation. Was your father kind enough to let you keep his voucher?

Well, that depends a bit on what they are used for, I guess...

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 5):
Actually they're not any doughnuts, but Berliner doughnuts!

True!

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 5):
Wow, talk about great customer service! Decided what to do with those vouchers?


Well, it's Blue1 we're talking about after all! It's just about time you get to know them as well... I have a couple of possibilities of what to do with the vouchers, but nothing decided yet... stay tuned!

Quoting globalflyer (Reply 6):
Wow this must have taken every bit of time to produce since you arrived home! Very efficient! I enjoyed meeting you and your Dad as well and it was too bad the time was too short.

Well, as I mentioned in the report I did start writing it already on the spot, but thanks anyway!

Quoting globalflyer (Reply 6):
Again it was a pleasure to meet you and I hope our paths cross again soon in the future!

It was nice meeting you too! Thanks again for your comments.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 7):
Good to see you had a great flight on easyJet, quite the contrast of my only flight with them.

Then it is time for you to catch another flight on them, isn't it? And I guess it depends quite a bit on what base you are flying from - the German crews are quite easy going while the French/Swiss crews are more modest I think (that's at least according to my experience).

Quoting filoflyer (Reply 8):
I love estonian air.!! my previous flights with them has been very pleasant and the crj 900 was lovely..

I know the CRJ-900 is a very nice aircraft to fly on but I don't love Estonian Air - actually everything but so. Their crews are below average and they are anything but helpful when it comes to rebooking - they recently cancelled my TLL-OSL flight and rebooked me on another one 12 hours later without any notice or flexibility in changing...

Quoting planejamie (Reply 9):
This is normal for UK airlines to do this - and given U2 is using G- registered (UK) aircraft and I believe a UK AOC they have to stick to the checking boarding pass rules on every flight. It's not too much of a problem and at least they know you're on the right plane/flight and you are the right person

Good to know, thanks! And it feels kinda weird - almost that you're boarding some long haul flight so I'm completely fine with the procedure.

Quoting planejamie (Reply 9):
I aim to attend the next meeting hopefully, though I don't fly commercially enough at the moment to write enough trip reports to keep up with you all!

Nice to hear about your upcoming trip! And I am sure you will write up a nice report for all of us...  
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
Good to meet you, but too bad we didn't have any time to talk. You had suddenly disappeared. Well, next time!

Indeed, at least I got to shake hands with you! I tried to say goodbye to everyone but at least we all know there will most certainly be a next meet!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 10):
How about that deal - you get our wind turbines, we get your most modern nuclear power plants!

I think we're fine at the moment - but we don't need any more nuclear power plants here in Finland so I'd be happy to share any upcoming ones with you! Now I'm sure our Flying Finn doesn't share my point of view on this one.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 11):
KF messed up upon overbooking but saved your day by bumping you off and providing you with some travel vouchers. Great of course and weel taken care of, but suren you missed out on another 717 flight.

True, but now I can use all the vouchers to buy even more flights... on the 717!

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 11):
Then easyJet with the jolly crew, I don’t know what to think of that. Earlier this year I had a jolly and happy crew as well on a Ryanair flight, but the more the flight progressed, the more disturbing I found the crew’s ‘feelgood’ behaviour. Too many announcements, too loud,... I’m glad however it didn’t disturb you (ooh, am sounding like a grumpy old man now probably &nbsp .

No no, I fully get what you are saying here but these guys (and gals) at easyJet did it without getting too excited, they just did the regular announcements (most of the time) and just threw in some personal touches. I love attention to details, but just as you are saying I am sure not everyone onboard was impressed!

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 11):
Of course I have some more comments

Warmly welcomed!

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 11):
You had luck and bad luck it seems. Still do you think it doesn’t cost more to redistribute the bumped pax and give them vouchers then not to overbook the flight? Just a thought...

A good question, but apparently they must be doing some kind of business here - otherwise I'm sure the practice of overbooking flights would come to a quick end. Our flight had one (or two) no-shows as well (initially flight was overbooked by eight and they dumped off a family of four as well as me and my dad, so..). I guess overbooking by less would be a solution here? Or perhaps the guys at the KF booking department are just overly ambitious.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 11):
Of course you don’t really know what prices have been paid for the tickets (except for your own of course).

...but sure a fully booked plane brings in more revenue than an empty plane!

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 11):
Very good, so that’s a few SAS/Blue1 trips in the making?

For sure! Not fully convinced what I should use them for yet, but I'm sure I'll come up with something.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 11):
You were sitting on the wrong right side of the plane. Left side had the best Berlin views ever

I noticed that, yes.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 11):
Quite a modern looking building. Is it a big station?

Definitely, at least if you compare it what I'm used to seeing at HEL. Three floors and many more platforms than you'd ever need...  
Quoting Sultanils (Reply 11):
Wow, does SXF really has

Not sure what you were asking here, but they have a gate A63, yes. At some stage the gate numbers jump from A10 to A60 so that kinda explains the deal.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 11):
Next time: ask me as a guide, I have favorable rates   And I don’t think that church is named that way ha ha ha!

Haha! I guess we should have mentioned to you on the spot about our plans of going to Brugge - but at least we now know what to do next time!

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 11):
One HEL of a good looking bird in the Estonian colours!

The master of PUNs has spoken.  
Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 12):
Congrats, that's a very good compensation for the hassle. Well done here by Blue1. And for sure a nice surprise to accidentally get on an inaugural flight. And even with some a.net company, nice.

Yeah, leaving on the trip I thought my first ever A.net meet would be in Berlin and first joint flight with another A.nutter would be SXF-BRU - but I was wrong! A nice surprise I must say.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 12):
Do you know these things are actually called 'Berliner' in Germany, so a quite appropriate offer for a flight to Berlin. (Actually they are called Berliner everywhere in Germany except in Berlin, where they are called pancakes   )

Every day is a school day - always good to know!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 12):
(too bad, I would have preferred the cookie, as most other passengers probably, since almost noone ate the apple)

But what about the good old "an apple a day keeps the doctor away?"  
Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 12):
In my opinion the most overrated tourist attraction in the world. This thing is so small, what is so special about it? Well, maybe to watch the bunch of far-eastern tourists all trying to get pictures at the same time   ...

I guess so, but it was so close to my hotel I just had to see it. And later in the evening there were close to no tourists there at all...

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 12):
Thanks again for this report, greetings and until the next meeting

The very same to you and thanks for taking the time to write a reply.

Quoting reifel (Reply 13):
OV is indeed not a very covered airline here.

...but with their cheap fares and rare aircraft types I guess that will soon change?  
Quoting reifel (Reply 13):
However your report gives me a first insight. I'll probably get that sandwich, too... unless they start the BOB until then. Doesnt makes any sense to have a BOB menu if no BOB exisits. Maybe this is in addition to the free service?

I think it was in addition to the free service - I didn't see anyone getting/buying anything else than the complimentary sandwich and drinks though.

Quoting CARST (Reply 14):
The best routes so so far to and from Berlin a.net meeting. Very interesting choice of airlines and routes. Seems like an good idea to go with Blue1 and Estonian...

I feel flattered, thank you for your kind words!   And talk about a good choice to go with Blue1 when I didn't even end up in their plane...

Quoting LXM83 (Reply 15):
Intersting that EasyJet came out on top compared to the other "full" service airlines.

And it's not even the first time!

Once again thank you all: it was nice meeting you and reading your replies!

Happy flying!
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Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:28 am

Hey nice report on your journey to the meeting.

Nice that Blue1 stepped up to the mark . Your right about airlines showing their true colours when things go wrong .

Looking forward to the ME adventures.

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Fri Jun 08, 2012 12:26 pm

Hi,

Another interesting report on the Berlin a.netters meet up and what a way for you to get to Berlin. Not only do you get to fly an inaugural but you get vouchers for future flights to Blue 1 (which is quite a bizzare name for an airline). A very interesting route that you had planned out, which again I will say is only possible in Europe. You guys hop between European cities like it was stops on a subway here. And you also get food board!!!

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 1):
The true identity of an airline is only revealed when everything does not go as planned. This is exactly what happened on Blue1 and I was very impressed by how the situation was handled. We were always kept updated, many apologies were made and some jokes were thrown in as well. And who can resist 300 EUR in vouchers? My favourite airline remains.

Great customer service and I have to say you were handled very well.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 1):
It was a very special feeling to be part of my first ever inaugural flight. Even though Lufthansa could have done a little bit (actually much) more to promote the new route I boarded the flight with a smile on my face. Otherwise straight from the crew handbook: efficient service without any attempt of being personal but of course without being rude. Service conducted = manager is happy = most customers are happy = I am not convinced Lufthansa will be my primary choice next time.

I don't know why I've always loved Lufthansa, even way before I even started to like KLM. I have flown with them and thought they were quite nice. I guess you have your reasons for not wanting to fly them again.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 1):
easyJet once again showed me how wonderful fyling can be at its best. Definitely the best flight I had on this trip!

Again very surprising to read about your views on Easy jet. Most have considered them to be a LCC and that's it. However nice to see your reviews. Their cabin crews seem to be as chirpy as the West jet folk out here.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 1):
The new airline - Estonian Air - did quite well as well. For a very good fare they offered me a comfortable connection via TLL - an airport I would love to connect at also in the future. Finally I also got to tick off the CRJ-900 from "things to do during my life" list. Crews were quite mediocre but the CRJ was clean and nice with some free service - I definitely see BT and OV are trying hard to compete against each other. I don't know which one I prefer. Let's wait until one of them introduces the Boeing 717. Finally, my flight on DOT is something I will remember for a l-o-o-n-g time - the ambience onboard, the seats, the aircraft, everything reminded me of how fascinating it is that we humans actually can fly! The cute FA was perhaps the best part and made me wish the 20-minute flight would have been a bit longer. Full points to DOT!

Just a 20 minute flight that is like a tease lol. CRJs are terribly tiny aircraft to get onto after travelling on a super long haul one. Luckily you only had 20 minutes on board.
 
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Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:35 pm

Hi Rasmus!

Thanks for a very well-written report with nice pictures !

It seems you lucked out at the beginning of the trip; denied boarding compensation and get to fly nonstop on an inaugural flight!

It seems you were not at TXL very long which is too bad. EasyJet seems okay but sometimes those kind of funny announcements can be a bit annoying.

Good that you finally got a hold of Marc on your flight to BRU.

Nice to see you made the connection in TLL and extra bonus to fly a new airline, unexpectedly.

Looking forward to your next report!

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Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:41 pm

Hi, Rasmus!

thanks for the nice read from your flights around the meeting in Berlin. It was good to see you there, although we met only for a short time. Next time more talking!

Good to read about your succesfull trip. LH rebooking, scoring travel vouchers, the CR9 and the ATR42, one very rare airline also to get a ride on. Definitely a lucky trip!

Lovely pics, meals are good and truly I've to admit I love these muffins on easyJet! Also my choice, every time again.

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Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:50 pm

Terve R,

You've been working hard writing this one. Thank you for such a nice account of the Berlin weekend. It's interesting that the best crew was on ezy. Some of my favourite crews have been with them. I remember a particular NCE-BSL flight where the purser was a real comedian.

Have you decided what the 300E travel vouchers are going to be used for?!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
make a booking with Blue1 and SAS flying via Copenhagen for 70 EUR

What a bargain.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
So I happened to notice Estonian Air (that airline with the gorgeous livery and free muffins)

Ok, I'm sold. Where do I book?!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
After leaving the car there I see a command I need to obey:

Nice idea that is, something ZRH should introduce.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
"We at Blue1 want you never to be bored" is her explanation. "Feel free to sit down at the nearby café, I will come and talk to you then and thanks again for volunteering!" is what she says next and I really can't stay mad can I?

Humour will get you everywhere. KF employees seem especially good at it!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Everyone has already boarded and now we are still overbooked by one so I will be needing your help". I ask her whether this means my father and I should travel separately. "Of course not, I have no problem in rebooking both of you and so there will be one free seat on the Stockholm flight, specially dedicated to you guys!). Superb customer service and moments later we have also chosen to go for the vouchers (a total compensation of 300 EUR) instead of half the amount in cash.

Very kind of them. Although I guess they'd rather have an empty seat and a problem solved than having to go hunt for someone else.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
No cake, but coffee and dougnuts (with lots of filling!):

Rather a fine spread for such an early hour.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
but as it was my first time boarding an inaugural flight I will not complain!

I'd have been happy with that inaugural. The only one I've ever done was with easyJet - as you can guess, no cake, nothing.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Yes please, rather than nuclear power:

Quite agree.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
I can't possibly remember who was the first one I shoke hands with - but I am sure it was a really nice person!

I think I had that honour  
Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
hour till the next express train to Schönefeld so we sit down for a pizza:

Looks tasty, nice and crispy.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Weather in Brussels is expected to be "the same as here, but even worse".

Now there's a contradiction if ever there was!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Thomas was more than happy to fulfill this request and my choice between a lovely blueberry muffin or a wonderful chocolate muffin ends up being the later one

The best muffins can only be chocolate imo   Good to hear that ezy came out so well in the test.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 1):
the two other male crew members working in the back of the cabin are also invited - and voilà! I'm not going to post the outcome here - but it's a funny picture for sure

Facebook please!

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 1):
historic centre of Brugge (that of course is an UNESCO World Heritage Site) I see this fellow tourist with... well... an interesting outfit:

Can only be American (no offence meant to anyone)!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
During pre-departure checks one of them sighs loudly when she discovers my photo-taking. Well thank you!

Ah, but did she just sigh or did she tell you to turn the camera off?

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Not only is it an ATR 42 (a type desperately missing in my log) but the older -300 version! LY-ARI is carrying Danish Air Transport stickers all the way despite operating for DOT LT (an airline founded as Danu Oro Transportas). I guess it kinda makes sense as DAT is the main shareholder in DOT. At this moment I couldn't care less that I missed my Saab 340 and happily board as the last passenger.

I would have been very disappointed. In fact, I'd have felt robbed. No beautiful Estonian livery!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
followed by some Estonian Kalev chocolates - you definitely couldn't wish for more on a flight of this duration!

Thanks to P, I now know how good they are!

It was great to meet you at Berlin,

Happy flying
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Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:46 pm

I don't know if it is blasphemy to ask this question, but it has been haunting me for a while now:
What is so special about the 717?
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Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:54 pm

Hi 717Flyer ! ...
super nice that you and your dad have attended the meeting ... and that he so interested in yours hobby ... lucky you

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
but the gate agent at the (un)lucky gate of 13 just smiles when I ask her to hold the flight for a minute and at least I get a hug

hahahhahah I hope you had a lot of time hihihiihih

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
No cake, but coffee and dougnuts (with lots of filling!):

I am on diet mmmmmm not for me .... with chocolate ? mmmm

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Mysteriously, the thin Lufthansa Magazin as well as the small safety card were later discovered in my backpack... how did that happen?

really do not know ... but it always happens to me too ... really strange phenomenon ...hiihih

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
And thanks to Blaž for the souvenir - I guess I should be planning a trip to LJU soon?

yes yes go LJU is very cozy and nice town ... tell me if you go because I'm often in the Ljubljana and Blaž will be happy to have two A.neters in town hehehhehe

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
at the end and the portion is almost a bit too big!

too big muffin ... it is certainly strange I think you're in love ... I am on diet hehhehehe I am on di ...

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
but in the end there is free service. Soft drinks, coffee and a sandwhich with mayonnaise, salad and tomatoes.

and no muffin ? ... but that is their trademark or not ... confused ...but nice offer ... diet ...diet ...stop torture me hehehe

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Then let me tell you I think of the A.net meeting as a muffin: you never know what it tastes like on the inside. This time, the A.net meet was such a special experience that it will be just like an excellent muffin - a memory I will cherish for a long time.

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Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:37 pm

Hi Rasmus,

great report, it was very nice to meet you in Berlin and let's hope we'll have some more time to talk at the next meeting. That is the only bad side of this meets, not enough time to talk to everyone  
Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Could it be? Yes, it is the one and only Flying Finn. What follows is my first (and definitely shortest) A.net meet - we shake hands and exchange a couple of phrases before he has to continue

Nice unplanned mini-meet with FF   That must have prepared you to meet all the other a.netters later in the day.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
"I missed you too much, come with me and fly Blue1 instead!". Our purser eyes her like she would be a maniac so she calms down and hands me the voucher, this time carrying my right name - "I almost forgot to give it to you at the gate!

Outstanding service, I am really impressed. Good job by her.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Also a look back in the bus - load was around 60 % with lots of empty seats in the front - we were the only passengers on row 4 and row 5 remained empty as well.

Not that good, but it's still a new service so it might get better.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
The rest of the flight is spent relaxing while enjoying the views (no dropdown screens on this Airbus) and I also read what used to be a great airline magazine - nowadays it has much lower standards but still better than most other magazines (and the airline featured on the first page is very nice, of course):

I'm subscribed to AW as well and I totaly agree, it's not what it used to be, but still offers some nice aviation-related reading.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Thank you to everyone for making my first A.net meet such a memorable experience! And thanks to Blaž for the souvenir - I guess I should be planning a trip to LJU soon?

You definately should   And do let me know if you ever decide to visit our small country.

Quoting stipica (Reply 23):
yes yes go LJU is very cozy and nice town ... tell me if you go because I'm often in the Ljubljana and Blaž will be happy to have two A.neters in town hehehhehe

...and let Stipica know too hehe  
Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
"Ding dong, last stop of the line, everyobody get off please" everyone is laughing. Way to go, easyJet!

Must have been a great set of crew judging by your experience, always like that. The best crew I had so far was on Virgin Blue from SYD to CNS and your description of the U2 crew reminds me of them, so relaxed and fun.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Yes! Yes! It really is a -900 series!

Funny how many A.net members are trying to log the CRJ2 and/or CRJ9 whereas I am a bit sick of them, flying them almost every time on JP  
Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
My first rides on two well-known and large Boeings as well as some boutique carriers from the Middle East. Stay tuned!

I'm looking forward to this report already!

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Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:32 am

Hi 717Flyer

Thanks for the great report. I mean, if one has to be involuntarily rerouted, an inaugural flight to somewhere is not the worst option to be rebooked on. So any ideas where you'll be heading with the DBC vouchers?

The pictures you took in Brugge are excellent, it look like a lovely place.


Thanks for posting.

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Sat Jun 09, 2012 7:34 am

Nice report! Great suprise to get on the inaugural!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Agent: "So here are your boarding passes to Edinburgh, have a nice flight. Unfortunately your flight is leaving from gate 32, so if you haven't got any exercice today then now you will. I am sorry about this, but all airport operators have their faults, no?"

LOL, nice personal touch!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Apparently they can't rebook on KF/SK as all their flights are fully booked today (and someone said SAS is losing money?

Overbooking a flight with lots of cheap tickets and they rebooking and compensating the pax sound like a money-loing excersice  
Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
The crew onboard today's flight is very jolly

Great crew indeed!
 
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Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:21 am

Hello 717Flyer, my friend,

Finally, I met you in real. The one behind oh, so appropriate username.  
A great pleasure to meet your father as well. Now I understand where your gentle and caring personality comes from.  


Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
According to new research we humans spend up to thirty percent of the time we are awake interacting with other individuals. This phenomenon - a need to interact with others - is also something that characterizes most aircraft enthusiasts

What a scientific, yet very smart introduction!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Unfortunately, the Boeing 717 had been replaced by an ATR and the CRJ-900 was also gone (why does these changes keep happening to me?) but I really couldn't complain as it had been replaced by a Boeing 737-600, another rare type missing from my log.

All types are still missing from my log, but one!   


Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
So I happened to notice Estonian Air (that airline with the gorgeous livery and free muffins) selling BRU-TLL-HEL tickets for 75 EUR for my preferred date. And it would include the CRJ-900 and the Saab 340, yet two new aircraft types!

How could one possibly say no?

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
the opening of BER airport being postponed was a big (and very bad) joke - but nope - it was reality

  


Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Sur le pont d'Avignon
L'on y danse, l'on y danse
Sur le pont d'Avignon
L'on y danse tous en rond

Is it not great to be inspired by our friend Nils?  


Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
we have also chosen to go for the vouchers (a total compensation of 300 EUR) instead of half the amount in cash.

Good move!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
I'm happy to see this poster is still featuring the good old Lufthansa slogan instead of the boring "nonstop you":

Silly me! I did not even realize that Lufthansa slogan has been changed.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
when Mrs. Sunshine rushes onboard, reaches my row and exclaims: "I missed you too much, come with me and fly Blue1 instead!". Our purser eyes her like she would be a maniac so she calms down and hands me the voucher, this time carrying my right name - "I almost forgot to give it to you at the gate!" to which I say "No, I forgot to pick it up!".

Sweet and moving moments. How adorable!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
She asks "Cheese or ham?" so I guess we will only get a sandwich so I am surprised as we get this... goodie bag:

  


Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
but soon other respected A.netters such as Suryo, Eric, PlaneHunter, Robert, Robin and Marc also joined us!

Boy, how I was excited to meet you!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Beautiful, or...?

Retro!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
compliments me on my orange shirt - well thank you!
Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
The crew onboard today's flight is very jolly - each crew member is introduced by name and our purser refers to "your extremely good-looking easyJet crew" many times during the flight. Even further he knows all announcements by heart and he seems to love being on the microphone - we hear all kinds of stuff including that easyJet loves customers and that if we want to look as good as the cabin crew we should buy stuff from their in flight sales sortiment....
Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
"Here, let me give you some napkins to clean it up".
"Thank you!"
"Would you like more milk to go with your coffee?"
"No, I'm fine thank you".
"Are you sure? More napkins? Is there anything else I can get for you?"
Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 1):
Finally a really nice goodbye - what an amazing flight!
Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 1):
Even the dispatcher wishes us "welcome back soon" so looks like the whole easy team were having a great day!

 Wow!      717Flyer, you have become an Easyjet ambassador! I just have to fly Easyjet one day!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
The purser gets many nice comments by passengers at the door and I tell him that "You were great, I wish all cabin crews would be like you!".

I assume the purser said back, “I wish all passengers would be like you!”   


Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Finally our lovely purser insists I take a photo with him, the two other male crew members working in the back of the cabin are also invited - and voilà! I'm not going to post the outcome here - but it's a funny picture for sure.

I respect your decision, though I would love to see the outcome.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 1):
we have a nice little chat with the captain that had been flying orange for six years and here's proof of my visit "to the office":

  


Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 1):
With some good advice from their side a couple of lost Finns even manage to find the way to the train platforms, jump on a nasty old train to Brussels Centraal.

Kudos to Marc and Nils!   


Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 1):
indeed our decently-priced (60 EUR including American breakfast) room at Bedford Hotel looks really nice and inviting:

That’s a nice deal. Did you find it on TripAdvisor’s recommendation?

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 1):
But which one is it, this one...

Manneken Pis is somehow like the Merlion in Singapore. The first one might be the real one, but with many others scattering in the city, I do not know.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 1):
I see this fellow tourist with... well... an interesting outfit:

New spring collection? 


Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 1):
Oops, what happened here:

Bad landing…

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 1):
that 2) we need a reprint.

Strange. I wonder if it happened to other passengers with home printouts as well.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 1):
Yes! Yes! It really is a -900 series!

   I am so happy for you.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 1):
it might have some crucial part missing - for example a window:

If one could not become superstitious…

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 1):
(later found at home in my backpack...):

Surprise! Surprise!  



Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 1):
During pre-departure checks one of them sighs loudly when she discovers my photo-taking. Well thank you!

What a hospitality indeed.   . At least, she did not stop your photo-taking or did she?

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 1):
the expression on the FA's face is quite priceless actually but in the end she doesn't bother to complain.

Too bad the FA had to act that way!

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 1):
Inside, a cute, young, blonde, friendly, Danish FA greets me. Despite being close to midnight she's shining like the sun and laughs when she sees my photo taking - quite alright so far!

The Danish FA should have been on board of Estonian Air instead.

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 1):
Service on this short hop is impressive: first a water run is made, followed by some Estonian Kalev chocolates - you definitely couldn't wish for more on a flight of this duration!

Kudos to DOT for this!

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 1):
the Danish FA allows me to take a cabin shot by saying "Please do so, it is a nice plane for sure!".

She’s just charming!

Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 1):
Then let me tell you I think of the A.net meeting as a muffin: you never know what it tastes like on the inside. This time, the A.net meet was such a special experience that it will be just like an excellent muffin - a memory I will cherish for a long time.

A short, but sweet gathering of us, like how you put it here.


Once again, it was an honor to meet you. I do hope we will meet each other again soon and stick around longer.

I look forward to reading your adventures in The Middle East.


Warmest regards,
Suryo  
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Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:40 pm

Hi Rasmus!

Great report, thanks!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Finally, after years of trying, I have two of them in my hands!

Congratulations! Don't use them wisely - instead you could book some crazy itinerary with your dad!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):

A moment later I also spot fellow A.netter AYA333 chatting with some guys from the Finnish flight forum - of course I shake hands with them as well!

It was nice to meet you (and your dad)! I was really surprised to meet you as I thought you had taken another flight!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Mrs. Sunshine rushes onboard, reaches my row and exclaims: "I missed you too much, come with me and fly Blue1 instead!". Our purser eyes her like she would be a maniac so she calms down and hands me the voucher, this time carrying my right name - "I almost forgot to give it to you at the gate!" to which I say "No, I forgot to pick it up!".

Wow! Excellent service!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Next up is mission "find the others". Together with Jani (AYA333) and my father we first ask for directions to the observation deck (I didn't even know it was still open!) and soon we find it. But just before entering we see some familiar looking faces near the Ess-Bahn (the place to be at Tegel, obviously).

Oh, Ess-Bahn. Maybe I should book a trip to Berlin only to have some currywurst and döner. Well, it's only 1.5 months before my next trip there 
Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 1):
On our way to the oval-shaped historic centre of Brugge (that of course is an UNESCO World Heritage Site)

Excellent choice of destination! World Heritage Sites are so cool that you absolutely have to visit them 
Quoting 717Flyer (Reply 1):
To be a regional jet, I'm impressed by the leg room as well.

Nice! I will have 4 flights on these birds later in 2012 including a return TLL-Tbilisi-TLL so they better be more comfortable than the SAS ones I have previously flown on.

See you again,

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RE: Mates And Muffins! HEL-TXL/SXF-BRU-TLL-HEL

Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:15 pm

Hi 717Flyer!

Nice report, good photos and detailed. Of course, it was also great to meet you (and everyone else) at TXL!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
his meant that my onward flight with the orange airline would now leave from SXF - Schönefeld would be a new airport for me

A shame, especially given that you would have to leave the meeting earlier

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
1) isn't today the inaugural Lufthansa flight to BER and 2) will there be any compensation

2 good reasons to be joyful! Also the face that the direct flight probably arrived at TXL before your originally scheduled one!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
What follows is my first (and definitely shortest) A.net meet

Lol   I did meet a member once in a similar timeframe (I bumped into user Vanguard at the LHR T5 test day!)

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
.. I am introduced to a lovely bunch of people. I can't possibly remember who was the first one I shoke hands with - but I am sure it was a really nice person! Hannah, Nils, Blaž, Johannes, Gabriel, Oliver, William and Marco were all there when we arrived but soon other respected A.netters such as Suryo, Eric, PlaneHunter, Robert, Robin and Marc also joined us! Many new persons, many nice discussions, interesting flights... we have a great time, that's for sure!

The feeling is definitely mutual. A great bunch of people, and a great few hours!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Three reasons why you should not fly from Schönefeld

1). The guys at the security control must be the most grumpy guys I've ver seen

My last departure from SXF, on FR 2 years ago, the security check guys were quite alright, chatty even joking!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Inspired by Robin's choice of meal onboard his LTN-SXF flight the very same morning I decided it was more than appropriate to go for the muffin combo as well

Thank you! In fact it was your muffin tests that gave me the idea in the first place! I didn't mention, but the last page in my menu onboard was ripped off, so I didn't see the full list of combos - I was lucky to hear the crew read out the offers on the tannoy.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Taking a look at the small, but for me still bearable leg room:

I remember that I am a bit taller than you - I was quite cramped in my seat  
Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Manneken Pis

I often wonder if people also seek out his female equivalent, Jenneke Pis, squatting not far away...

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
a little walk to this blue cutie:

Indeed a beautiful looking plane!

Thanks for the report, and for meeting in person in Berlin!

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RE: Mates And Muffins! HEL-TXL/SXF-BRU-TLL-HEL

Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:43 am

HI 717Flyer


First of all it was great meeting you and your dad in TXL and BRU.
Just too bad I got in so late in SXF...

Great to see you made it on LH's inaugural, a perfect compensation for not getting the KF 717!
Concercing the Easyjet expercience we both value the same opinion. Including SXF.. SXF is not on the list to do again soonly.

Estonian seemed pretty nice as well except for the dour F/A's.

Greetings
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RE: Mates And Muffins! HEL-TXL/SXF-BRU-TLL-HEL

Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:18 pm

Hi all,

Thank you so much for your nice and detailed replies and apologies for getting back to you this late - I just came home from the UAE today so I have a bit of catching up to do...

Quoting OA260 (Reply 17):
Hey nice report on your journey to the meeting.

Hi Philip,
glad to hear you liked the report!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 17):
Looking forward to the ME adventures.

As I came home from that trip today I can only say the trip was quite an experience! It will take some time to get the reports written though.

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 18):
Hi,
Another interesting report on the Berlin a.netters meet up and what a way for you to get to Berlin.

Hi Flightsimboy - good to read your comments!  
Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 18):
Blue 1 (which is quite a bizzare name for an airline).

Now we're talking details but it is Blue1 (no space between the word and the number) and I really don't see anything weird in the name - I'd rather call it an innovative name for an airline that comes from a country with a thousand lakes (that's where the blue comes from) and that wants to profile themselves as a quick, nice and comfortable options (there's only one number one!).  
Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 18):
You guys hop between European cities like it was stops on a subway here. And you also get food board!!!

I like this description of yours! But you're welcome to Europe any day to make some serious flying!

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 18):
I don't know why I've always loved Lufthansa, even way before I even started to like KLM. I have flown with them and thought they were quite nice. I guess you have your reasons for not wanting to fly them again.

Wait a moment, did I ever say I don't want to fly them again? I only stated they won't be my number one choice next time, mostly because their flights are straight from the handbook and you already know what to expect. I fully agree that they are a great and very reliable carrier!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 19):
Thanks for a very well-written report with nice pictures !

Hi The777Man, good to hear from you!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 19):
It seems you were not at TXL very long which is too bad.

I know, specially the schedule changes in form of the need of changing airport in Berlin really cut my time too short, but I hope things will be better for the next meeting. And I really enjoyed meeting everybody despite it was only for a short chat.

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 20):
Hi, Rasmus!
thanks for the nice read from your flights around the meeting in Berlin. It was good to see you there, although we met only for a short time. Next time more talking!

Hi Eric, thanks for your nice words! It was great meeting you too, as you mentioned in your report it is only time we start planning a "BER 2013" meeting! I'll be one of the first ones to sign my name on the list!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 21):
Terve R,

You've been working hard writing this one. Thank you for such a nice account of the Berlin weekend. It's interesting that the best crew was on ezy. Some of my favourite crews have been with them. I remember a particular NCE-BSL flight where the purser was a real comedian.

Hi Hannah, I'm happy to hear from you also this way! And thank you for your nice words.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 21):
Have you decided what the 300E travel vouchers are going to be used for?!
Quoting infodesk (Reply 21):
Ok, I'm sold. Where do I book?!

Well, don't be lured by the beautiful livery - 12 hour schedule changes and refund applications is the kind of business I am doing with Estonian Air at the moment.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 21):
I'd have been happy with that inaugural. The only one I've ever done was with easyJet - as you can guess, no cake, nothing.

Didn't they even sell BOB muffins for a discounted price?  
Quoting infodesk (Reply 21):
Quite agree.

Finally, someone who understands what things really should be like!  
Quoting infodesk (Reply 21):
I think I had that honour

Oh yes, I remember it was someone wearing a red shirt but as I wasn't 100 % sure... now I remember! It was great meeting you in person.  
Quoting infodesk (Reply 21):
Facebook please!

Sure, just give me some time!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 21):
Ah, but did she just sigh or did she tell you to turn the camera off?

I just got a sigh and a "I-feel-like-telling-you-something-but-I-won't-because-you-wouldn't-listen-to-me-anyway" look.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 21):
I would have been very disappointed. In fact, I'd have felt robbed. No beautiful Estonian livery!

What you just described is exactly how I felt onboard the BRU-TLL learning that there was not going to be any muffin served!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 21):
It was great to meet you at Berlin,

Time to start planning the next meet then? Thank you again for your comments.

Quoting Pelle (Reply 22):

I don't know if it is blasphemy to ask this question, but it has been haunting me for a while now:
What is so special about the 717?

Why do some people like bananas when others like apples? Seriously speaking, I don't know. The Boeing 717 is a mix of old and new, a silent and comfortable jet that still is reminiscent of the past. Most of all some of my most memorable flights have happened to be on the type and I guess those are some of the reasons behind why I like the type so much?

Quoting stipica (Reply 23):

Hi 717Flyer ! ...
super nice that you and your dad have attended the meeting ... and that he so interested in yours hobby ... lucky you

Hi Stipica, I had a great time reading your reply!   Indeed I am doing my best to make my father interested in the aviation sector as well, he is already now following airline news very closely so there is hope he will be the next big trip reporter?  
Quoting stipica (Reply 23):
hahahhahah I hope you had a lot of time hihihiihih

Well, as I mentioned it was I definitely had too little time there, but a quick visit is better than no visit at all.

Quoting stipica (Reply 23):
I am on diet mmmmmm not for me .... with chocolate ? mmmm

Nope, filled with lots of jam! Lots of sugar and unhealthy as what - not for someone on diet.  
Quoting stipica (Reply 23):
really do not know ... but it always happens to me too ... really strange phenomenon ...hiihih

Tell me about it! I've never found as many inflight magazines and safety cards in my bag as after this trip to the Middle East. But more about that later!

Quoting stipica (Reply 23):
yes yes go LJU is very cozy and nice town ... tell me if you go because I'm often in the Ljubljana and Blaž will be happy to have two A.neters in town hehehhehe
Quoting SloAir (Reply 24):
You definately should   And do let me know if you ever decide to visit our small country.

Sounds good, let's start planning the trip!  
Quoting stipica (Reply 23):
it is certainly strange I think you're in love

What are you talking about?   

Quoting stipica (Reply 23):
I am on diet hehhehehe I am on di ...

Okay, I think we all got the point by now! But you must remember to treat yourself from time to time - no matter if you are on diet or not.  
Quoting stipica (Reply 23):
and no muffin ? ... but that is their trademark or not ... confused ...but nice offer ... diet ...diet ...stop torture me hehehe

I was just as confused as you are when I got the sandwich on the flight but apparently the muffin is only their catering on shorter flights as they want to offer something more substantial on longer flights (good for most people, bad for me!).

Quoting SloAir (Reply 24):

great report, it was very nice to meet you in Berlin and let's hope we'll have some more time to talk at the next meeting. That is the only bad side of this meets, not enough time to talk to everyone

Hi Blaž! I share your feelings about the meet - luckily now it's only time to start planning the next A.netter reunion!  
Quoting SloAir (Reply 24):
Nice unplanned mini-meet with FF   That must have prepared you to meet all the other a.netters later in the day.

True, it was a good way of warming up for the day - at least it wasn't a problem to recognize the man with the hat!

Quoting SloAir (Reply 24):
Not that good, but it's still a new service so it might get better.

True, still Star Alliance has always had a tough time on the HEL-TXL route.. A year-round daily Avro didn't work for Blue1, a summer seasonal daily 717 worked somewhat better but apparently still not good enough? Hopefully Lufthansa will stay on the route.

Quoting SloAir (Reply 24):
Funny how many A.net members are trying to log the CRJ2 and/or CRJ9 whereas I am a bit sick of them, flying them almost every time on JP

So you are still hungry for some more Boeing 717 rides? Welcome to Finland! 
Quoting SloAir (Reply 24):
I'm looking forward to this report already!

Thanks, I just started putting together the first part.

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 25):
Thanks for the great report. I mean, if one has to be involuntarily rerouted, an inaugural flight to somewhere is not the worst option to be rebooked on. So any ideas where you'll be heading with the DBC vouchers?

Hi William, thank you for your feedback - always well appreciated! As the vouchers can only be used on KF and SK it somehow limits the possibilities (I would have loved to have Wideroe as a part of the plan) but I have a couple of ideas. Stay tuned!  
Quoting roberts87 (Reply 26):
LOL, nice personal touch!

Hi Robert! I agree, but it wasn't that nice for the passengers that got some exercice to the other end of the terminal building.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 26):

Overbooking a flight with lots of cheap tickets and they rebooking and compensating the pax sound like a money-loing excersice

Haha, true, but I guess we really can't speculate about this without any further inside information.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 27):
Hello 717Flyer, my friend,
Finally, I met you in real. The one behind oh, so appropriate username.  
A great pleasure to meet your father as well. Now I understand where your gentle and caring personality comes from.
Quoting akhmad (Reply 27):
What a scientific, yet very smart introduction!

Hi Suryo and thanks a lot for your encouraging words.   And greetings from my father as well, he enjoyed meeting you just as much as I did!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 27):
All types are still missing from my log, but one!

Hey, I think I know which one you are talking about!  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 27):
How could one possibly say no?

Exactly, that is why I ended up booking with Estonian Air!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 27):
Is it not great to be inspired by our friend Nils?

 
Quoting akhmad (Reply 27):
Good move!

That is exactly what Mrs. Sunshine pointed out to us right on the spot!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 27):
Silly me! I did not even realize that Lufthansa slogan has been changed.

Perhaps because the old one was such a good and memorable one?

Quoting akhmad (Reply 27):
Sweet and moving moments. How adorable!

  

Quoting akhmad (Reply 27):
Boy, how I was excited to meet you!

Do I need to tell you I felt the same way? It is always such a special feeling when meeting someone for the first time but I am sure the second time will be even better.  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 27):
717Flyer, you have become an Easyjet ambassador! I just have to fly Easyjet one day!

Sounds like a good idea for you to fly orange as well! Then you can try out easyJet Switzerland as well! The two are a bit like twins.  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 27):
I assume the purser said back, “I wish all passengers would be like you!”

Well, that is when he got the idea of a group photo so most probably he appreciated my feedback?  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 27):
I respect your decision, though I would love to see the outcome.

Facebook could be the solution, exactly as Hannah pointed out.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 27):
That’s a nice deal. Did you find it on TripAdvisor’s recommendation?

I did check the reviews on TripAdvisor ahead of booking but I got a first glimpse of the hotel via booking.com.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 27):
Strange. I wonder if it happened to other passengers with home printouts as well.

Somehow I suspect it had something to do with the quality of the printouts - the bar codes had some stains on them which easily explains the whole deal.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 27):
What a hospitality indeed.   . At least, she did not stop your photo-taking or did she?

Fortunately she just gave me the stare without saying or doing anything further.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 27):
The Danish FA should have been on board of Estonian Air instead.

Yes, I think Estonian Air could hire planes from DOT a bit more often!  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 27):
Once again, it was an honor to meet you. I do hope we will meet each other again soon and stick around longer.

I look forward to reading your adventures in The Middle East.

Once again thank you for stopping by and leaving such a thorough reply, Suryo! Looking forward to the next meeting - it's about time to start planning it now isn't it?  
Quoting AYA333 (Reply 28):
Congratulations! Don't use them wisely - instead you could book some crazy itinerary with your dad!

Hi Jani and good to read your comments! I like the advice you are giving here - my father's first idea was something like a weekend in London but I'm sure we'll come up with something more interesting!

Quoting AYA333 (Reply 28):
It was nice to meet you (and your dad)! I was really surprised to meet you as I thought you had taken another flight!

Yep, as stated in the report I was surprised (but happy) to meet Petteri and you as well.  
Quoting AYA333 (Reply 28):
Nice! I will have 4 flights on these birds later in 2012 including a return TLL-Tbilisi-TLL so they better be more comfortable than the SAS ones I have previously flown on.

Hopefully no further changes will happen to your OV bookings and you can enjoy the CRJ-900s as long as they last in the OV fleet. And do remember to write some reports for us to read!  
Quoting signol (Reply 29):
Hi 717Flyer!
Nice report, good photos and detailed. Of course, it was also great to meet you (and everyone else) at TXL!

Hi signol! I really enjoyed meeting you as well - let's do another meeting soon!  
Quoting signol (Reply 29):
2 good reasons to be joyful! Also the face that the direct flight probably arrived at TXL before your originally scheduled one!

Indeed, and as it even ended up arriving nearly 30 minutes early thanks to schedule padding was another added silver lining for going with the direct flight.

Quoting signol (Reply 29):
ol   I did meet a member once in a similar timeframe (I bumped into user Vanguard at the LHR T5 test day!)

Those mini-meets can be quite funny.  
Quoting signol (Reply 29):
Thank you! In fact it was your muffin tests that gave me the idea in the first place! I didn't mention, but the last page in my menu onboard was ripped off, so I didn't see the full list of combos - I was lucky to hear the crew read out the offers on the tannoy.

I think the muffins are quite a bestseller item in the easyJet BOB - so they better have lots of them loaded on every flight! Now it's only up to us to spread the word about these large and moist delicacies.  
Quoting signol (Reply 29):
I remember that I am a bit taller than you - I was quite cramped in my seat

Haha, I believe you!

Quoting signol (Reply 29):
I often wonder if people also seek out his female equivalent, Jenneke Pis, squatting not far away...

Oh dear, how could I forget her? Definitely something I must check out when visiting Brussels the next time. And I'm sure Nils and Marc can give plenty of more advice about what to see and do!

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 30):
First of all it was great meeting you and your dad in TXL and BRU.
Just too bad I got in so late in SXF...

Hi Marc! I really enjoyed meeting you as well - greetings from my father as well!

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 30):
Great to see you made it on LH's inaugural, a perfect compensation for not getting the KF 717!
Concercing the Easyjet expercience we both value the same opinion. Including SXF.. SXF is not on the list to do again soonly.

Let's think positively: at least we had the chance to sample the Schönefeld experience before the closure of the airport.  
Quoting MSS658 (Reply 30):
Estonian seemed pretty nice as well except for the dour F/A's.

That's my impression as well! Thanks again for leaving a comment.

Happy flights everyone!
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RE: Mates And Muffins! HEL-TXL/SXF-BRU-TLL-HEL

Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:22 pm

Hi KFLover  ,

Good to finally have time to comment on your account of the BER meet. Nice that you managed to attempt it despite your school obligations and SKKF's best attempts at keeping you away. Also very nice to score that VDB plus a rebooking to an inaugural flight, that certainly doesn't happen every day!

Also together with Captain Red you should probably be given the "Most innovative use of the BER meet to leverage other travel plans" award - a nice idea to go pay Brussels a short visit on the way back home. Shame that you had to fly ex-SXF instead of ex-BER, but if you haven't been before at least that got you an airport code that is bound to become rare (together with TXL of course).

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
(why does these changes keep happening to me?)

Because you keep flying and booking with an airline that is known to start a route, operate it for 5 minutes and then either cancel it alltogether or just totally wreck the schedules  .

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Online check-in worked like a charm 22 hours ahead of departure for my Blue1 and SAS flights (what else would you expect from the world's most punctual airline)
Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
When I arrive home to print out the boarding passes (no chance to do so earlier) OLCI is no longer available - an error message is shown and I am asked to contact staff at the airport. I smell some surprises in store for me here!

... hmm, these statements seem to contradict each other a bit, don't they?  

But honestly I find the T-22h opening a bit too little restrictive and short. AY does 36 hours and AB 30 hours and with BT it is from noon the previous day no matter what the departure time is. But most of the time it is fine, sometimes you just wish it would be a bit more.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
I think of Petteri when I hear the conversation a couple ahead of me are having.

Hah, you should think of Finavia's incompetence instead!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
1) isn't today the inaugural Lufthansa flight to BER

Yes.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
and 2) will there be any compensation

Yes.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Apparently they can't rebook on KF/SK as all their flights are fully booked today (and someone said SAS is losing money?).

Well, even I could start an airline and fill every seat on every route easily and not make any money. It is all about the yields, not the load factors as such.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
And soon comes the best part - the vouchers, delivered with "greetings from the girls at the ticketing department". Finally, after years of trying, I have two of them in my hands!

Congratulations! Hopefully the process of using them is nowadays a bit easier than back in the days when I used to have many of them and learned to hate the Estonian call center...

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
No cake, but coffee and dougnuts (with lots of filling!):

Ahh, this table did look quite good when I dashed past it  .

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
It is D-AIBB, a new one for my log, named after the city of Aalen east of Stuttgart and it is arriving well ahead of scheduled:

Oh, it actually had a name. I didn't notice that, thanks for pointing it out.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Could it be? Yes, it is the one and only Flying Finn. What follows is my first (and definitely shortest) A.net meet - we shake hands and exchange a couple of phrases before he has to continue - at least it was nice meeting you! Perhaps with more time next time?

Yep, sure was me. And I sure was in a bit of hurry, so no time for many chit chats. But yes, good meeting you if only very briefly. And yes, I was a bit surprised to see you were there. I knew of the other guys beforehand, but not about you - but then again you weren't supposed to fly with that plane anyway!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
A moment later I also spot fellow A.netter AYA333 chatting with some guys from the Finnish flight forum - of course I shake hands with them as well!

There you go, when it rains, it pours.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Unwrapping the sandwich I find quite a simple and a bit dry one - but still okay and way better than nothing at all!

Cheese? That indeed is a very dry sandwich, I wonder why they couldn't add at least a couple of slices of lettuce or something.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
I also read what used to be a great airline magazine - nowadays it has much lower standards but still better than most other magazines (and the airline featured on the first page is very nice, of course):

Hey, I agree with you. I was a subscriber for many years but a couple of years ago let my subscription stop - there wasn't much stuff in there any more as they moved most of the airport articles into the sister magazine "Airports of the World" (of which I still get every issue) and I noticed that all the news that were in the magazine I'd already learned online weeks earlier.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Yes please, rather than nuclear power:

Don't get me started on this one.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Not sure what these guys are lying there for - no sunshine to be seen:

Beer.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Beautiful, or...?

DDR architecture at its best. I would be surprised if they didn't have some asbestos in that building!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
The guys at the security control must be the most grumpy guys I've ver seen -

Hah, yeah they aren't the nicest persons around. Lots of "Horst Moustaches" there as well.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
In the end we stop in front off G-EZPG, a new one for my log:

You know, you're not the first or even the second person on this board to log a flight with that bird. And I'm not talking about myself either here... Airfleets.net can sometimes be a wonderful site.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
No doubt who is the big player here:

Interflug.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
takes a look at my boarding pass (easyJet is the only airline I've flown with that does this)

So not flown any other UK or Irish airlines then? It is a requirement (and a very pointless one at that) by these countries aviation authorities for the passengers boarding pass to be checked upon boarding an aircraft. Some other carriers do it as well, especially on long haul.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
"Are you sure? More napkins? Is there anything else I can get for you?"

Hey, he is trying hard to loose easyJet some money! The margins on the BOB items assume only one napkin and one sachet or milk per purchaser!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
After circling in the rain for a good hour or so a hotel room sounds like a great idea and indeed our decently-priced (60 EUR including American breakfast) room at Bedford Hotel looks really nice and inviting:

Ahh, see - it's the weekend so you get these nice prices on decent looking hotels in Brussels. Not like in the middle of the week where most of the hotel prices are very inflated, thanks to the army of Eurocrats (which brings me to one question: on those weeks the parliament is in Strasbourg do the hotel prices drop?).

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Window view:

Good to see a classic Brussels comic mural.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Finally I can't resist having a quick look at the central square in Brussels - Grote Markt!

I thought you were a Francophile? Shouldn't you use the French name instead of the Flemish one?

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
The Belfry - definitely one of the city's symbols:

Quite a nice idea to take a sidetrip to Brugge, it is such a nice and beautiful city. Although if you haven't been to Brussels before it has plenty of stuff to keep you occupied for a couple of days as well. But hey, now you have a reason to go back!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Oops, what happened here:

Mathias Rust.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Yes, this is the train station:

Actually if you lost the two wings on either side it would look exactly like the Borg Cube they also call the Turku Train station.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
This seems to be the trend on Estonian Air

No, it is not a trend with them. I don't think I've ever had crews like you described with OV - all of them have been nice and courteous and at least greeted me happily. I think you just had very bad luck, or maybe something bad happened like this crew was supposed to go home when they were summoned to do one last BRU roundtrip at the end of an already long shift etc.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
To be a regional jet, I'm impressed by the leg room as well.

Well you are small. It is not that good when you are tall and big like me. I'm sort of dreading my 3+ hour TLL-TBS flight with them, at least I need to go for an exit row seat.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Soon I decide to find something more interesting to read from my backpack - this:

Come on, that pamphlet was cack!

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Anyway I am happy Estonian Air has not yet decided to go BOB-only.

Actually they were BOB only for quite a few years in economy, only during the recent year or two have they started to reintroduce free service. I think it started by abolishing the BOB on the short routes like TLL-ARN where there wasn't really enough time for a proper BOB (just like what KF did) and after Mr. Taskila came onboard and they decided to really make it big was it introduced on the longer routes as well.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Not only is it an ATR 42 (a type desperately missing in my log) but the older -300 version! LY-ARI is carrying Danish Air Transport stickers all the way despite operating for DOT LT (an airline founded as Danu Oro Transportas). I guess it kinda makes sense as DAT is the main shareholder in DOT.

Actually the thing is that DAT founded DOT in Lithuania in order to use it as a subcontractor for some of its routes (nowadays they fly a couple of domestic PSO runs in Norway in addition to these OV subcharter routes) taking advantage of the much lower salaries in Lithuania, kinda like what AY tried (and failed) with Aero.

Very nice that you managed to log this interesting bird that has been operating for OV for the last couple of months or so. I've seen it at HEL and TLL quite a few times, but don't really have that strong desire to fly with it as I did when it (ironically enough) was operating for BT back in 2008 (just like Markus did, search for his report on CPH-LPX-CPH  ), on the very short lived, heavily EU subsidized and extremely rare domestic Latvian route VNT-RIX.

However I'd loved to score a flight with the Saab 340 of the Polish carrier Skytaxi that was operating for OV for a couple of weeks before OLT came into the picture - I saw it at HEL once and a couple of times at TLL and always wished I could somehow end up in that bird but unfortunately OV is like KF, they never published it in the schedules so planning to get one was impossible and I didn't have the time or money to spend a week flying between HEL and TLL three times a day  .

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Inside, a cute, young, blonde, friendly, Danish FA greets me. Despite being close to midnight she's shining like the sun and laughs when she sees my photo taking - quite alright so far!

Hmm, that's weird. Not very cost effective taking the high Danish salaries into account. My flight was staffed by BT flight attendants IIRC.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
My seat is featuring a spicy DAT logo:

Hmm, I think they have redone the interior after my flight with them, or at least I don't remember those DAT logo headrests. Also I seem to recall old cloth seats, but not sure. Once I get home I'll check my photos from that flight to see if I have any cabin shots.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
one older Estonian is hiding in front of the plane all flight and does nothing else than the welcome announcement while the Danish girl does the rest of the job.

This was the same on the Carpatair operated OV TLL-ARN flight I took last December. There were two Romanians who did all the work and a single Estonian FA who only did the Estonian announcements. I asked her about it and she confirmed that she was onboard only to do that and translate in the event some passengers had problems communicating with the crew.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Cabin view, indeed the load is only some 20 %, wonder how Estonian Air is planning to make money on the HEL route?

Well they do not and won't ever make any money on the O/D passengers. This route exist only to feed their TLL hub. So any assessments about the routes viability and profitability needs to be done taking the whole network, connecting passengers, through fares etc. into account. Now having said that that is still a lousy load, but then again it was supposed to be a Saab where the load factor would've been a bit more  .

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
Service on this short hop is impressive: first a water run is made, followed by some Estonian Kalev chocolates - you definitely couldn't wish for more on a flight of this duration!

Wow, quite nice. On the OV Regional Saabs you get those choccies handed to you when boarding and that's it.
 
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RE: Mates And Muffins! HEL-TXL/SXF-BRU-TLL-HEL

Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:03 pm

Hey, R.,

more great stuff to follow here. Also picturewise, well done.
Really good to see another A.net meeting story. Not sure when I find the time to write my part about it.

Quoting 717Flyer (Thread starter):
2) the military appearance of the FA:

It seems I should fly sometimes Estonian again!.

Greetings,
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RE: Mates And Muffins! HEL-TXL/SXF-BRU-TLL-HEL

Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:02 pm

Hi Petteri and Markus - good to see your comments!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 32):
Hi KFLover ,

Funny, I've never thought of changing my username (not that you can do that). But I agree that KF has bad days just as everyone else...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 32):
Good to finally have time to comment on your account of the BER meet. Nice that you managed to attempt it despite your school obligations and SKKF's best attempts at keeping you away. Also very nice to score that VDB plus a rebooking to an inaugural flight, that certainly doesn't happen every day!

Good to see you found the way to my report & thank you. Still I don't see why you could say the SAS Group was trying to keep me away - they just added more excitement and made the history behind this TR even more interesting! And changes are bound to happen if you book a flight some eight months ahead of departure.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 32):
Shame that you had to fly ex-SXF instead of ex-BER, but if you haven't been before at least that got you an airport code that is bound to become rare (together with TXL of course).

Shame for my time at the meeting but good for my log book! And with these unpredictable German engineers you never know, maybe TXL will be around for even longer?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 32):
Because you keep flying and booking with an airline that is known to start a route, operate it for 5 minutes and then either cancel it alltogether or just totally wreck the schedules

As I pointed out earlier, nothing to complain about here and the situations were handled very well (what else on CustomerCare1?). I know they had to make some changes (many quite drastic ones) to their schedules not long ago - but that's thanks to the new strategy.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 32):
... hmm, these statements seem to contradict each other a bit, don't they?

Yes, but at the time of writing both of them were true.  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 32):
But honestly I find the T-22h opening a bit too little restrictive and short. AY does 36 hours and AB 30 hours and with BT it is from noon the previous day no matter what the departure time is. But most of the time it is fine, sometimes you just wish it would be a bit more.

I see your point here but that had little to do with the deal this time, didn't it? I mean, if OLCI would open even later (say 15 hours ahead of departure) the airlines would certainly have more time to predict aircraft changes, deal with overbookings and this way those who check in online could be quite sure they have a seat on that particular flight?

In the good old days when Blue1 still flew on the RVN-HEL route the flights were overbooked every week but you kinda got used to it: they used to call everyone over 24 hours before departure, asking if there was any volunteers of flying home later (or earlier for that part). Unfortunately I didn't end up getting vouchers on any of those occasions...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 32):
Well, even I could start an airline and fill every seat on every route easily and not make any money. It is all about the yields, not the load factors as such.

Yes, but full planes are always better than empty planes.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 32):
Congratulations! Hopefully the process of using them is nowadays a bit easier than back in the days when I used to have many of them and learned to hate the Estonian call center...

Thanks! As long as I don't have to pony up any service charge for booking via their call center then everything should be fine.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 32):
And yes, I was a bit surprised to see you were there. I knew of the other guys beforehand, but not about you - but then again you weren't supposed to fly with that plane anyway!

This is not the first time I hear that! But yes, short and sweet meets, hopefully with more time next time.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 32):
Cheese? That indeed is a very dry sandwich, I wonder why they couldn't add at least a couple of slices of lettuce or something.

Ham.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 32):
Don't get me started on this one.

Sorry. But we are all different, you know?  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 32):
Beer.

True, why didn't I think of it earlier?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 32):
Ahh, this table did look quite good when I dashed past it .

But you had some time to take pictures of it at least?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 32):
Interflug.

Blast from the past.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 32):
So not flown any other UK or Irish airlines then? It is a requirement (and a very pointless one at that) by these countries aviation authorities for the passengers boarding pass to be checked upon boarding an aircraft. Some other carriers do it as well, especially on long haul.

Good to know. Indeed I'm proud to announce that I still have to fly with Ryanair (less proud to say BA is missing from my list) but hey - those things should get right soon.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 32):
Hey, he is trying hard to loose easyJet some money! The margins on the BOB items assume only one napkin and one sachet or milk per purchaser!

But then again I am sure you are familiar with the cost of attracting a customer - this time not much marketing was needed - only the offer of an extra napkin (that I even declined).

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 32):
I thought you were a Francophile? Shouldn't you use the French name instead of the Flemish one?

Or perhaps both of them to make everyone happy?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 32):
Quite a nice idea to take a sidetrip to Brugge, it is such a nice and beautiful city. Although if you haven't been to Brussels before it has plenty of stuff to keep you occupied for a couple of days as well. But hey, now you have a reason to go back!

Yep, just as Nils pointed out already.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 32):

Well you are small. It is not that good when you are tall and big like me. I'm sort of dreading my 3+ hour TLL-TBS flight with them, at least I need to go for an exit row seat.

Good luck, hopefully you can score an exit seat via OLCI (even though I seriously doubt that it will be available from TBS?).

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 32):
Come on, that pamphlet was cack!

...but the Blue1 ad in it was very cute!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 32):
Actually they were BOB only for quite a few years in economy, only during the recent year or two have they started to reintroduce free service.

Good point, I was thinking too much of the "new" Estonian Air when I wrote the report.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 32):
TLL-ARN where there wasn't really enough time for a proper BOB (just like what KF did)

Another good point! BTW, did you know KF has been doing some enhancements to their BOB menu and the new one should be out quite soon?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 32):
However I'd loved to score a flight with the Saab 340 of the Polish carrier Skytaxi that was operating for OV for a couple of weeks before OLT came into the picture - I saw it at HEL once and a couple of times at TLL and always wished I could somehow end up in that bird but unfortunately OV is like KF, they never published it in the schedules so planning to get one was impossible and I didn't have the time or money to spend a week flying between HEL and TLL three times a day .

Every day is a school day - always good to learn some background facts. But nowadays KF is quite good in planning these wet-leases early and inserting them into the booking system as well. Now go look for some Jet Time 737s!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 32):
Once I get home I'll check my photos from that flight to see if I have any cabin shots.

Feel free to do so!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 32):
Wow, quite nice. On the OV Regional Saabs you get those choccies handed to you when boarding and that's it.

Here's hoping it will soon be muffins instead!.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 33):
Hey, R.,

more great stuff to follow here. Also picturewise, well done.

Hi Markus, thank you for your comments!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 33):
Really good to see another A.net meeting story. Not sure when I find the time to write my part about it.

Take your time - we'll be waiting. And btw such a shame I wasn't around on Saturday so that we could have met there. Hopefully better luck next time!

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 33):
It seems I should fly sometimes Estonian again!.

Haha, well that's up to you.  

Thanks again gentlemen for leaving a comment.

Regards,
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RE: Mates And Muffins! HEL-TXL/SXF-BRU-TLL-HEL

Tue Jul 10, 2012 11:20 pm

Hej Rasmus!

Thanks for the nice report! What a interesting routing you was able to catch for the meeting  Really interesting read and pictures! You seemed to have some nice flights! Nice with the ATR surprise! These are nice little A/C´s! 

It was nice to meet you! Pity we didn´t talk more but maybe next time?

Greetings
Robert
 
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RE: Mates And Muffins! HEL-TXL/SXF-BRU-TLL-HEL

Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:57 am

Hi Robert and sorry for my late reply,

Quoting Parton87 (Reply 35):
Thanks for the nice report!

Thanks for your comments!

Quoting Parton87 (Reply 35):
What a interesting routing you was able to catch for the meeting

Well, when arriving to an A.net meeting for the first time you better do it

Quoting Parton87 (Reply 35):
Nice with the ATR surprise! These are nice little A/C´s! 

True, still a Saab manufactured aircraft is desperately missing from my log, so that would have been quite a nice experience as well. But I guess DOT as an airline is much harder to catch.

Quoting Parton87 (Reply 35):
It was nice to meet you! Pity we didn´t talk more but maybe next time?

Yeah, it was nice to shake hands with you. Hope there will be another meeting soon! And hopefully I'll see you there.

Regards,
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RE: Mates And Muffins! HEL-TXL/SXF-BRU-TLL-HEL

Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:25 pm

Very nice TR! It was very easy and fluid to read. I love easyjet as an Airline and never get dissapointed although they are LCC (without the seatnr's, smaller seatpitch and with BOB it is the only thing that reminds you of it being a LCC). I have flown multiple times on Easyjet and everytime it seems to me that the Berlin crew always has that small 'extra thing'. Mostly it is just the German hospitality and friendlyness but sometimes they make those jokes just like you had on the plane.

Easyjet keeps suprising me as a LCC and I never actually feel like flying a LCC when I fly U2. I don't really mind (in good weather) to walk the few 100m to the terminal from U2 parking places (when the diabolo project (tunneling to the underground railway station) was still in progress they couldn't park there and just used the regular jetways.

I don't think you mind it but at BRU when you boarded your flight via the tarmac it is due to the fact that the Airbridges/jetways(whatever you want to call them) cannot go as low as the CRJ series are sitting. You have to take into account that those are already 11 years old now since the terminal opened. Like I said I don't think you mind, but probably in better weather :p. It's an inconvience but I suppose most airports do not have jetways that are able to go that low.

Once again thanks for the great read!

Tom
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RE: Mates And Muffins! HEL-TXL/SXF-BRU-TLL-HEL

Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:39 am

Hi Tom,

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 37):
Very nice TR! It was very easy and fluid to read.

Thanks for the feedback! I'm glad you enjoyed reading the report even though it isn't even new anymore.  
Quoting Tomskii (Reply 37):
I love easyjet as an Airline and never get dissapointed although they are LCC (without the seatnr's, smaller seatpitch and with BOB it is the only thing that reminds you of it being a LCC). I have flown multiple times on Easyjet and everytime it seems to me that the Berlin crew always has that small 'extra thing'. Mostly it is just the German hospitality and friendlyness but sometimes they make those jokes just like you had on the plane.

I agree with you on this, and specially with the news that easyJet will introduce assigned seating on all routes at some stage they really will be an easy choice (pun intended!).

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 37):
I don't think you mind it but at BRU when you boarded your flight via the tarmac it is due to the fact that the Airbridges/jetways(whatever you want to call them) cannot go as low as the CRJ series are sitting. You have to take into account that those are already 11 years old now since the terminal opened. Like I said I don't think you mind, but probably in better weather :p. It's an inconvience but I suppose most airports do not have jetways that are able to go that low.

Exactly as you pointed out yourself it wasn't any problem for me - it was a great thing to enjoy the photo opportunities, much better than just walking into the plane via the usual jetway.

Quoting Tomskii (Reply 37):
Once again thanks for the great read!

Thanks for reading!

Regards
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RE: Mates And Muffins! HEL-TXL/SXF-BRU-TLL-HEL

Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:20 am

Quoting TravelsUK (Reply 3):

If you think that's bad, imagine the horror when I see Honolulu-bound passengers wearing Tiki/Floral-print shirts!!! I call them "Hawaii Tourist Fashions!" I guess add Florida-bound passengers to that list! I never understood the safari look, but then again this is an age where most lack a sense of pride in their appearance.


And to 717Flyer, I really enjoyed reading your trip report. I really like the light-hearted and easy-going style of your report. With the photos, you are definitely one of my number 1's!!!!

Pleasant travels,

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RE: Mates And Muffins! HEL-TXL/SXF-BRU-TLL-HEL

Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:07 pm

Hi R.

Enjoyed the report. As others have said - it seems you really struck it lucky with some of the changes that developed.

Meal looked rather good on LH and I liked the 'Berlin theme' of the bag - I wonder if this was a one-off.

One day I will have to try and get to one of these Anet meetings. Always seem to be in the wrong neck of the woods.

I really value EZY and it was great to see them performing so well. What they should focus on is getting rid of that bogus admin charge on the website. That is so annoying as a solo traveller.

Many thanks.

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RE: Mates And Muffins! HEL-TXL/SXF-BRU-TLL-HEL

Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:54 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 17):
I know the CRJ-900 is a very nice aircraft to fly on but I don't love Estonian Air - actually everything but so. Their crews are below average and they are anything but helpful when it comes to rebooking - they recently cancelled my TLL-OSL flight and rebooked me on another one 12 hours later without any notice or flexibility in changing...

seemed like i missed reading this =) anyway i didnt have any problem with OV. maybe i was not expecting too much from them so i had lower standards. probably I didnt take too much flights with them. lets just hope they would improve more and start making profit....
 
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RE: Mates And Muffins! HEL-TXL/SXF-BRU-TLL-HEL

Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:08 pm

Hi all, good to see even more replies, thanks!

Hi AirAfreak,

Quoting AirAfreak (Reply 39):
If you think that's bad, imagine the horror when I see Honolulu-bound passengers wearing Tiki/Floral-print shirts!!! I call them "Hawaii Tourist Fashions!" I guess add Florida-bound passengers to that list! I never understood the safari look, but then again this is an age where most lack a sense of pride in their appearance.

I love this description of yours. Still there is many times when I'm not exactly proud of the way my fellow Finns are dressing either...

Quoting AirAfreak (Reply 39):
And to 717Flyer, I really enjoyed reading your trip report. I really like the light-hearted and easy-going style of your report. With the photos, you are definitely one of my number 1's!!!!

That's something I don't hear every day, thank you for your kind words!

Quoting AirAfreak (Reply 39):
Pleasant travels,

And the same to you too!  


Hi Luke,

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 40):
Meal looked rather good on LH and I liked the 'Berlin theme' of the bag - I wonder if this was a one-off.

Actually it seems like the catering on these Berlin flights is different from the whole other network (I have a hard time coming up with a good reason for it). I agree the bags are quite cute but if they won't change the content of the bag (judging some recent reports they don't do that very often) then the whole idea lacks fantasy from LH's side.

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 40):
One day I will have to try and get to one of these Anet meetings. Always seem to be in the wrong neck of the woods

Haha, well after attending my first one I can only recommend you to do so!

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 40):
I really value EZY and it was great to see them performing so well. What they should focus on is getting rid of that bogus admin charge on the website. That is so annoying as a solo traveller.

I can only agree. And their choice to move towards having assigned seating only is something I appreciate as well!

Quoting lukeyboy95 (Reply 40):
Many thanks.

Thanks for commenting.


Moikka filoflyer,

Quoting filoflyer (Reply 41):
seemed like i missed reading this =) anyway i didnt have any problem with OV. maybe i was not expecting too much from them so i had lower standards. probably I didnt take too much flights with them. lets just hope they would improve more and start making profit....

Well, with Mr. Taskila working his magic I'm sure we'll see some nicer numbers soon!

Happy flying!
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