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AZ 777 LAX-FCO in Y with pics

Sun Jun 10, 2012 8:30 pm

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B A C K G R O U N D

I first flew on a Alitalia 777 on 1Mar03 and wrote a trip report but with no pictures. So when I was going to Italy to see my friends there, this was a good opportunity to AZ and their 777 again. I could then write another report and it would also be great to fly nonstop to Rome. There are not many reports on AZ on their LAX-FCO service either. It’s also nice to compare the experience from nine years ago to now.

T H E T R I P
Date: 29May12
Route: Los Angeles LAX – Rome FCO
Distance: 6354 miles
Flight: AZ 621
Flight Time: 11:29h
Dep. Time: 15:19
Aircraft: Boeing 777-243/ER
Registration: EI-ISB “Porto Rotondo”
Dep. Gate: 27
Seat: 29D
Movies: Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy
202nd flight on a Boeing 777, 103rd flight on a -200/ER
Flown on 117 different 777 aircraft (frames)

I arrived at the check in counter about 90 minutes before departure and there was a line of about 10 people. Most people had a few large bags to check in except me. The wait wasn’t too bad; about 15 minutes. It was finally my turn and it was a quick process. The agent gave me 29D which I figured was an aisle and I asked her about a window and she said that there were no windows for now but to check at the gate.

Security was fairly quick and I was thru in about 10 minutes. There were not that many people at the gate so I figured that the flight wasn’t that full. I looked for the registration of the aircraft and was happy to see that it was a different aircraft than what I flew on in 2003. Boarding started about 45 minutes before departure and first was Classe Magnifica and then was done by row numbers. I checked again for a window seat but still no window available. A lot people were still crowding the gate reader so I waited until only a few people were there.

I noticed once I got on board that the configuration was 3-4-3 rather than the 3-3-3 that I had expected. There was also a small Premium Economy class section of 3 rows (2-4-2) which I think is fairly new. I sat down and could tell right away that legroom was good.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j214/The777Man/TriptoEuropeJune2012007.jpg

The TV screen looked exactly the same as nine years ago but think the seats are different.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j214/The777Man/TriptoEuropeJune2012008.jpg

I also saw the HUGE IFE box underneath but it wasn’t too bad as it was mostly under the seat next to me.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j214/The777Man/TriptoEuropeJune2012010.jpg

The seat was also very comfortable.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j214/The777Man/TriptoEuropeJune2012005.jpg

There was also a blanket and a pillow at every seat and in the seat pocket an inflight magazine along with safety card and duty free catalogue.

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The door closed and the seat next to me remained open which was great. The second center seat was also open but there was someone in the other aisle seat. The cabin was clean and fresh. There was no legrest which was featured on my previous flight. Safety video was played and cabin crew did safety checks. Surprisingly, the cabin crew were still walking around the airplane checking on other things even when the aircraft had turned onto the runway!! We sat a there for about a minute and then started a powerful take off roll.

After about an hour a drink service started and I tried an Italian beer.

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They gave me Castello which I had never heard of along with pretzels. I also found an unopened snack in the seat pocket in front of me. The beer was good and I start to watch the airshow map and then looked at the Ulisse magazine. I also started to explore the InFlight Entertainment system and was very happy to see one of my current favorite TV shows on there, Inspector Montalbano (Italian TV-series). I watched Montalbano first and soon the dinner was served.

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Options were beef or fish and I had the beef. It also came with a ham appetizer, pasta and honey dew melon along with grape for dessert. There was also a piece of bread but no salad. I still preferred the pasta instead of a salad so still a fairly large meal. It was very tasty. I had Coca-cola and blood-orange juice to drink which was served in cups and I had two of those with the meal. I had tea afterwards.

I watched the first movie and noticed that he IFE controller is not very easy to use and I could see my fellow passengers struggle with it as well. The controller as well as the IFE menu screen were the same as in 2003.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j214/The777Man/TriptoEuropeJune2012012.jpg

I slept for about two hours and had something to drink when I woke up. The crew were doing drink runs about every hour and it was good to see that it was not only water but also juice, milk and Coca-cola as well.

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Breakfast was served about 1h 45mins before landing which seemed a bit early but it gives time for people to go to the bathroom and prepare for landing in plenty of time before the seat belt sign is turnd on back again. Breakfast was croissant, bread, ham, some cheese and yoghurt. I had tea to go with it as well.

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Routing was over Denver, Milwaukee, Montreal, New Foundland, Lorient, Limoges, Torino and Pisa to Rome. Cruising altitude was first about 34 000 and later we made it up to 39 000 feet.

All in all, a great flight with Alitalia. The crew was also very friendly.
Looking forward to any comments!

The777Man
Boeing 777s flown: UA, TG, KE, BA, CX, NH, JD, JL, CZ, SQ, EK, NG, CO, AF, SV, KU, DL, AA, MH, OZ, CA, MS, SU, LY, RG, PE, AZ, KL, VN, PK, EY, NZ, AM, BR, AC, DT, UU, OS, AI, 9W, KQ, QR, VA, JJ, ET, TK, PR, BG, T5, CI, MU and LX.. Further to fly.. LH 777
 
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Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:30 pm

Hi and thanks for sharing.
Alitalia has improved a lot since the new management has been appointed along with new ownership. I guess they somehow benefit from the AFKL experience and have finally understood there's competition around.
I like the idea of early breakfast on such a long flight. Tooth brushing is almost impossible with other carriers when the last meal is served to close to top of descent.

Yes, the IFE box is huge but the new seats look definitely more comfortable than the older ones.

Hope you enjoy your return!

Cheers!
 
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Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:47 pm

Great Report!

AZ looks very nice! I would love to use once AZ to germany out of CCS, but the problem is the return flight that is leaving FCO to early to allow connections. dont understand why they dont change this...

So far I was only once on a a AZ flight aroudn 12 years ago FCO-MUC on an old MadDog...

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Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:37 am

Great report!

I flew on an AZ 777 back in 2007 from EWR to FCO, and despite all of their troubles during that time, I found the flight to be very enjoyable. The seats were comfortable, the crew was friendly, and the food was very tasty!

Glad to see you had a nice flight as well. It's obviously upsetting to see an airline switch to 3-4-3, but truthfully I think it's becoming such a norm now that it's not even worth complaining about anymore (not that you did or anything).

Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j214/The777Man/TriptoEuropeJune2012003.jpg

Great pic. The 777 looks angry and intimidating!

Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
The TV screen looked exactly the same as nine years ago but think the seats are different.

This, however, is a let down. If they updated the seats, why not just update the IFE as well? That's an outdated system, although at least it's AVOD.
 
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Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:25 am

Hi 777Man

-Thanks for the great report... was very nice and to see your photos and read your opinion!!

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...777Man/TriptoEuropeJune2012003.jpg

-That looks's simply wonderful!!! I guess AZ is one of the last "few" airlines that have the black spot over the radar!

Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
I also saw the HUGE IFE box underneath but it wasn’t too bad as it was mostly under the seat next to me.

-Wasn't it a little dangerous with those (I guess) alu things sticking out?

Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
The seat was also very comfortable.

-Looks very comfortable and nice you had the space on the seat next to you...!!

Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
Options were beef or fish and I had the beef. It also came with a ham appetizer, pasta and honey dew melon along with grape for dessert. There was also a piece of bread but no salad. I still preferred the pasta instead of a salad so still a fairly large meal. It was very tasty. I had Coca-cola and blood-orange juice to drink which was served in cups and I had two of those with the meal. I had tea afterwards.

-I really hope that the taste was better then it look's!!!

Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
103rd flight on a -200/ER

-You really lucky to have many flights on a 777 but tell me: You don't have a job?  

Very much I enjoyed your TR and guess it's a try to get on AZ one day!! You know if the A32S are similar in Y like on the 777?

Cheers  
 
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Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:57 pm

Hi The777man

Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
202nd flight on a Boeing 777, 103rd flight on a -200/ER
Flown on 117 different 777 aircraft (frames)

Amazing record you have! I am not even half way there! lol  
Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
I noticed once I got on board that the configuration was 3-4-3 rather than the 3-3-3 that I had expected.

That's crappy, but usually legroom space would be better, right?

Great to see the airline has gotten its act together and improved!

Great report from you once again, my friend.

Looking forward to your next!

Cheers
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Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:44 pm

Wow. Those food served look promising. AZ is very generous.
The presentation could have been better but portion is good  
My LH JFK-FRA back in NOV 2011 served smaller portion but givne the flight was fast due to tail wind, breakfast was served too soon lol

Thank you for sharing. Cabin crew counts when it comes to medium/long-haul flight.
They can make a better journey and put smiles in passengers' faces!

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Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:03 pm

Thanks for the photos and the TR man! AZ doesn't seem to bad in Y class.
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Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:34 pm

Hi !

Thanks to everyone for all the comments already!

Quoting okapi (Reply 1):
I like the idea of early breakfast on such a long flight. Tooth brushing is almost impossible with other carriers when the last meal is served to close to top of descent.

Yes, very good point. When a breakfast is served too late, it gets a bit too rushed.

Quoting okapi (Reply 1):
Yes, the IFE box is huge but the new seats look definitely more comfortable than the older ones.

The old seat was very comfortable too as I recall. I just have never seen an IFE box that huge before. It's the size of four regular sized boxes put together!

Quoting okapi (Reply 1):
Hope you enjoy your return!

Flew onwards to ZRH and ARN on LX and then back home to LAX on UA.

Quoting Avianca (Reply 2):
AZ looks very nice! I would love to use once AZ to germany out of CCS, but the problem is the return flight that is leaving FCO to early to allow connections. dont understand why they dont change this...

That's too bad connections don't work on the way back to CCS. Perhaps they only focus on domestic Italian connections. Or you fly out of the day before and spend an evening in Rome  
Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 3):
I flew on an AZ 777 back in 2007 from EWR to FCO, and despite all of their troubles during that time, I found the flight to be very enjoyable. The seats were comfortable, the crew was friendly, and the food was very tasty!

Yes, my last fight was okay with them in 2003 but this was better. Especially the meal and the crew was much better this time.

Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 3):
Glad to see you had a nice flight as well. It's obviously upsetting to see an airline switch to 3-4-3, but truthfully I think it's becoming such a norm now that it's not even worth complaining about anymore (not that you did or anything).

The 3-4-3 was not bad. I think the aisle gets more narrow. But keep in mind that I had the seat next to me open and with someone there with the huge IFE box, that person would be putting their legs in the same space where I would put my legs.

Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 3):
The 777 looks angry and intimidating!

Yes, it looks very good from that angle and therefore I took the picture. Too bad it was not un-obstructed.

Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 3):
This, however, is a let down. If they updated the seats, why not just update the IFE as well? That's an outdated system, although at least it's AVOD.

Yes, I was surprised they had the same system when they had changed the seats. The system was state of the art in 2003 but not in 2012.

Quoting B738FlyUIA (Reply 4):
-That looks's simply wonderful!!! I guess AZ is one of the last "few" airlines that have the black spot over the radar!

Yes, that used to be very common. This was an aircraft in the old livery and with the new livery the black nose is gone on AZ too.

Quoting B738FlyUIA (Reply 4):
-Wasn't it a little dangerous with those (I guess) alu things sticking out?

I don't think it was dangerous, just very big. Look at the comparison to my shoe!

Quoting B738FlyUIA (Reply 4):
-Looks very comfortable and nice you had the space on the seat next to you...!!

It makes a BIG difference to have the seat next to me open in terms of comfort. More than legroom I would say.

Quoting B738FlyUIA (Reply 4):
-I really hope that the taste was better then it look's!!!

It was! Very tasty !

Quoting B738FlyUIA (Reply 4):
-You really lucky to have many flights on a 777 but tell me: You don't have a job?

I do ! I had my first 777 flight in Sep95 so have been doing this a while. For more info, look at my profile and check out my website and especially My 777 Flights page.

Quoting B738FlyUIA (Reply 4):
Very much I enjoyed your TR and guess it's a try to get on AZ one day!! You know if the A32S are similar in Y like on the 777?

I think some of AZ's 320s have PTVs but not too many.

Quoting 9v-svc (Reply 5):
Amazing record you have! I am not even half way there!

But you have more 380 flights than me. I just stick to the 777. There'll be some more 777 flights before the end of the year.

Quoting 9v-svc (Reply 5):
That's crappy, but usually legroom space would be better, right?

Legroom was fine but I'm "only" 180cm/5'11" so probably shorter than you.

Quoting 9v-svc (Reply 5):
Great report from you once again, my friend.

Thanks Charles! You also replied to the previous AZ 777 report from 2003!

Quoting nethkt (Reply 6):
Wow. Those food served look promising. AZ is very generous.
The presentation could have been better but portion is good  
My LH JFK-FRA back in NOV 2011 served smaller portion but givne the flight was fast due to tail wind, breakfast was served too soon lol

Yes, that was a lot of food! Presentation wasn't the best but taste and quantity is more important in my opinion.

Quoting nethkt (Reply 6):
hank you for sharing. Cabin crew counts when it comes to medium/long-haul flight.
They can make a better journey and put smiles in passengers' faces!

Yes, the crew makes the biggest difference if a flight is great or not.

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 7):
Thanks for the photos and the TR man! AZ doesn't seem to bad in Y class.

Thanks! AZ was very good especially the meals.

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Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:41 pm

Thanks for this interesting TR!

Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
I also saw the HUGE IFE box underneath but it wasn’t too bad as it was mostly under the seat next to me.

Some loose screws there or am I seeing things?!
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Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:16 pm

I have a friend who prefers AZ from NYC to FCO. But lately AA have much lower fares.
 
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RE: AZ 777 LAX-FCO In Y With Pics

Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:27 pm

Hi 777Man,

Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
I arrived at the check in counter about 90 minutes before departure and there was a line of about 10 people. Most people had a few large bags to check in except me. The wait wasn’t too bad; about 15 minutes. It was finally my turn and it was a quick process. The agent gave me 29D which I figured was an aisle and I asked her about a window and she said that there were no windows for now but to check at the gate.

That's too bad. Well, I have to say, though, this flight is one of the ones that might have prompted me to ask for an aisle... I liked the 777 in its 2-5-2 days, but ever since it switched to 3-3-3 or 3-4-3... it's not for me on long flights, unfortunately.

Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
I noticed once I got on board that the configuration was 3-4-3 rather than the 3-3-3 that I had expected. There was also a small Premium Economy class section of 3 rows (2-4-2) which I think is fairly new. I sat down and could tell right away that legroom was good.

Yeah, both 2-4-2 and 3-4-3 configs are fairly new. I was actually really disappointed about hearing about the 3-4-3 but I guess it's not horrendously worse than a 3-3-3, although light-years behind a 2-5-2 or 2-4-3....

Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
Options were beef or fish and I had the beef. It also came with a ham appetizer, pasta and honey dew melon along with grape for dessert. There was also a piece of bread but no salad. I still preferred the pasta instead of a salad so still a fairly large meal. It was very tasty. I had Coca-cola and blood-orange juice to drink which was served in cups and I had two of those with the meal. I had tea afterwards.

That meal looks really good. No wonder AZ wins awards for their catering. Catering ex-FCO is even good on DL, imagine that. I couldn't given the meals they serve ex-USA...

Seats are like train seats, a bland uninspiring grey; probably my least favorite color for seats. Light enough to get dirty and not interesting in any way.

Thanks for the report The777Man. Looking forward to many other 777 reports, especially T5 once you find a way to do it!

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 10):
I have a friend who prefers AZ from NYC to FCO. But lately AA have much lower fares.

Well, tbh, I'd choose AZ over any airline from the USA transatlantically. I wanted to try JFK-FCO on AZ but their website is so bad that they weren't selling tickets on their own late-night departure from NY so I was stuck with DL and the same worst meal I'd received on a previous TATL flight on them.
 
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Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:37 am

Hi Alex !

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 11):
I liked the 777 in its 2-5-2 days, but ever since it switched to 3-3-3 or 3-4-3... it's not for me on long flights, unfortunately.

2-5-2 is nice if you have a choice which is something I rarely have. 3-3-3 is great if the flight is very open; much easier to sleep on 3 seats than 2....

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 11):
Yeah, both 2-4-2 and 3-4-3 configs are fairly new. I was actually really disappointed about hearing about the 3-4-3 but I guess it's not horrendously worse than a 3-3-3, although light-years behind a 2-5-2 or 2-4-3..

EK has had 3-4-3 ever since they took delivery of the 777 in June 1996. Same for CZ.

3-4-3 is not as bad as some people think. A lot of the time, the aisle gets more narrow and the seat only gets slightly more narrow if at all.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 11):
That meal looks really good. No wonder AZ wins awards for their catering. Catering ex-FCO is even good on DL, imagine that. I couldn't given the meals they serve ex-USA...

Yes, it was much better than the last time. I didn't know they had won awards but after my experience, it does not surprise me.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 11):
Seats are like train seats, a bland uninspiring grey; probably my least favorite color for seats. Light enough to get dirty and not interesting in any way.

Yes, they do look like train seats but was comfortable.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 11):
Thanks for the report The777Man. Looking forward to many other 777 reports, especially T5 once you find a way to do it!

Your welcome! Another report probably later this year. I WILL get on the T5 77L, hopefully together with Abrelosjos.  

Check out my old reports on here or on my website thru my profile here.

Thanks again for your comments!

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RE: AZ 777 LAX-FCO In Y With Pics

Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:39 am

Quoting B738FlyUIA (Reply 4):
Wasn't it a little dangerous with those (I guess) alu things sticking out?
Quoting loalq (Reply 9):
Some loose screws there or am I seeing things?!

I just noticed that now.....yes, looks a bit dangerous. If I had known, I would have let the flight attendants know so that they could tell a mechanic.

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RE: AZ 777 LAX-FCO In Y With Pics

Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:31 pm

Hi 777Man

nice report, and good to compare with your old one without the pictures!

Did you like the blood orange juice? User Palmjet called it "delicious" in another report  

Also good to see the meal, 2 hot courses is I think normal in Italy, one of them pasta, the second meat.

Thanks for the report!

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RE: AZ 777 LAX-FCO In Y With Pics

Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:00 pm

Hey Lars, nice report!

Not too often we get to see Alitalia Long Haul reports on the forum, more importantly the last one in Y on the T7 was from PlaneHunter right before the "bankruptcy" if memory serves me right.

The food onboard looked almost identical to what PH was served. The trays look really generous, and I like the way the main course is divided into two compartments. Is the content of the 2nd compartment the same also on the other meal option?

Seats however did not look nice at all, very unergonomic and it seems like they've simply just moved the massive IFE box from the old seats to the new.

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RE: AZ 777 LAX-FCO In Y With Pics

Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:38 am

Hi Lars,

Good to read a longhaul report on AZ, not too many of them about.

Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
also saw the HUGE IFE box underneath but it wasn’t too bad as it was mostly under the seat next to me.

That's massive!

Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
Options were beef or fish and I had the beef. It also came with a ham appetizer, pasta and honey dew melon along with grape for dessert. There was also a piece of bread but no salad. I still preferred the pasta instead of a salad so still a fairly large meal. It was very tasty. I had Coca-cola and blood-orange juice to drink which was served in cups and I had two of those with the meal. I had tea afterwards.

The meal looks generous enough, but not particularly appetising. Am I correct that the cutlery is plastic? Shame if it is.

Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
water but also juice, milk and Coca-cola as well.

Quite unusual, offering milk. I was given it for the first time on a plane by SQ.

Hope the rest of your trip went well.

Happy flying
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RE: AZ 777 LAX-FCO In Y With Pics

Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:23 am

Thanks for more comments !

Hi Signol!

Quoting signol (Reply 14):
Did you like the blood orange juice?

Yes, it was really good!

Quoting signol (Reply 14):
Also good to see the meal, 2 hot courses is I think normal in Italy, one of them pasta, the second meat.

Yes, that is normal in Italy but I did not expect that on an airplane especially not in Y.

Hi Jonas !

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 15):
Not too often we get to see Alitalia Long Haul reports on the forum, more importantly the last one in Y on the T7 was from PlaneHunter right before the "bankruptcy" if memory serves me right.

The food onboard looked almost identical to what PH was served. The trays look really generous, and I like the way the main course is divided into two compartments. Is the content of the 2nd compartment the same also on the other meal option?

I think you are right; I don't think I've seen an AZ report in Y since PlaneHunter's report on the 777.

I also like that there were two compartments for the meal but not sure if the second compartment was the second with the other portion. I was not close enough to another passenger to see that.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 15):
Seats however did not look nice at all, very unergonomic and it seems like they've simply just moved the massive IFE box from the old seats to the new.

Seats were comfortable even at the end of the flight. Not sure if the seats are the same since there now are four in the middle.

Hi Hannah!

Quoting infodesk (Reply 16):
That's massive!

Yes it is ! Probably four times larger than anything else I have ever seen before on any other carrier.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 16):
The meal looks generous enough, but not particularly appetising. Am I correct that the cutlery is plastic? Shame if it is.

Cutlery is plastic which is too bad but very common these days. Food was very tasty but not presented very well.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 16):
Quite unusual, offering milk. I was given it for the first time on a plane by SQ.

I've been offered that before on some other carriers, I think on TG and NH. Perhaps on MH as well.

Quoting infodesk (Reply 16):
Hope the rest of your trip went well

Yes, no problem; flew LX FCO-ZRH and ZRH-ARN and had two great flights with them. Then back home on UA via EWR. Too bad I couldn't meet up with you at ZRH or the others at Berlin. Flight from Berlin on 3 June were just too full to most places where I would go especially stand by. I'll definitely will make every effort to attend the next trip report meeting and will be back in ZRH to see my friend there.

Thanks for all the comments !

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Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:03 am

Quoting The777Man (Reply 8):
Quoting B738FlyUIA (Reply 4):
-You really lucky to have many flights on a 777 but tell me: You don't have a job?

I do ! I had my first 777 flight in Sep95 so have been doing this a while. For more info, look at my profile and check out my website and especially My 777 Flights page.

Thanks, that is really great and you did so many trips on the 777!!!! About the job was really only the joke.. seams to me that there is simply flying   But like the page you have there and very much detailed. And you really the 777man   I had till now only two flights on a 777 last Feb & Mar. Was on EI-UNT and EI-UNU on the Leg's DME-SGN-DME!!

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Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:02 am

Hi Lars ,

Nice report and nice routing . Glad AZ offered you good service. I like the interior design of their aircraft. Something different to the masses.

Thanks for sharing .

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Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:37 am

Quoting The777Man (Reply 12):
2-5-2 is nice if you have a choice which is something I rarely have. 3-3-3 is great if the flight is very open; much easier to sleep on 3 seats than 2....

I've not been on a very open flight TATL in a very long time, however...

Quoting The777Man (Reply 12):
EK has had 3-4-3 ever since they took delivery of the 777 in June 1996. Same for CZ.

Well... I recall being surprised around 2000 when I saw CZ had 777s, since I'd never heard of the airline before. I had no idea it was 3-4-3 at that time, but it doesn't really surprise me.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 12):
3-4-3 is not as bad as some people think. A lot of the time, the aisle gets more narrow and the seat only gets slightly more narrow if at all.

I bet it's not too bad for a few hours. Not much worse than a typical 737/757, except it's harder to get a window seat, I suppose.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 12):
Your welcome! Another report probably later this year. I WILL get on the T5 77L, hopefully together with Abrelosjos.  

Turkmenistan I hear is a very interesting place to visit. Well, not in the typical way, but Turkmenbashi's reign was a very particular one, I hear... I'd love to go, but I don't know if I'd have the time. Letter of invitation is also a hassle.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 12):
Check out my old reports on here or on my website thru my profile here.

Yep, was taking a look at your website.

I see you flew on N782UA 4 times... I flew on it on DEN-SFO. Coincidentally, it seems we both flew once on a KL 772, both on PH-BQC.
 
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Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:50 am

Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
The crew was also very friendly.

I've never flown AZ long-haul because of some of the stories that I heard from others who have taken this very same flight and my own long to medium haul experiences with them. This trip was certainly an eye-opener. Who knows, if the price is right, maybe I'll try them.

Thanks for sharing.
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Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:51 pm

Thanks for more replies!

Quoting B738FlyUIA (Reply 18):
But like the page you have there and very much detailed. And you really the 777man   I had till now only two flights on a 777 last Feb & Mar. Was on EI-UNT and EI-UNU on the Leg's DME-SGN-DME!!

Thanks for the nice comments on my webpage and username. Nice that you flew on UN 777. You should make a trip report!

Quoting OA260 (Reply 19):
Nice report and nice routing . Glad AZ offered you good service. I like the interior design of their aircraft. Something different to the masses.

Thanks Philip! Yes, something different with the interior. Looks okay to me.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 20):
Not much worse than a typical 737/757, except it's harder to get a window seat, I suppose.

The aisle seems much more narrow and the seats just slightly so.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 20):
I'd love to go, but I don't know if I'd have the time. Letter of invitation is also a hassle.

I think it's not too difficult to get a transit visa for Turkmenistan and I've heard that they could be valid up to 72 h so you can actually see something then.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 20):
I see you flew on N782UA 4 times... I flew on it on DEN-SFO. Coincidentally, it seems we both flew once on a KL 772, both on PH-BQC.

Good to know we flew on the same 777s a few times. I hope to fly KL again sometime and make a trip report then.

Quoting chopchop767 (Reply 21):
I've never flown AZ long-haul because of some of the stories that I heard from others who have taken this very same flight and my own long to medium haul experiences with them. This trip was certainly an eye-opener. Who knows, if the price is right, maybe I'll try them.

AZ was quite good and a better experience this time than last. You should give them a try.

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Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:07 pm

Hi Lars,

Nice report and pictures, thanks for posting.

AZ have started to reregister the 777 fleet onto the EI- reg, there are at least 2 done that I know of.

Looks like a pretty decent flight, nice to have an open seat next to you, food looked pretty good and the breakfast puts pretty much all US carriers to shame.

Not bad!

Cheers

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Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:02 pm

Hi Mark!

Thanks for your reply!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 23):
Nice report and pictures, thanks for posting.

Thanks!

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 23):
AZ have started to re register the 777 fleet onto the EI- reg, there are at least 2 done that I know of.

I know of three; ISB, ISD and ISO.

Too bad; I much prefer a carrier to have its aircraft registered in its own country.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 23):
Looks like a pretty decent flight, nice to have an open seat next to you, food looked pretty good and the breakfast puts pretty much all US carriers to shame.

Yes, a very good flight and breakfast was pretty good too. I've had some good breakfasts recently on US carries but on TransPacific flights.

Thanks again!

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RE: AZ 777 LAX-FCO In Y With Pics

Sat Jun 16, 2012 6:39 am

Quoting The777Man (Reply 22):
Thanks for the nice comments on my webpage and username. Nice that you flew on UN 777. You should make a trip report!
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Quoting The777Man (Reply 24):
Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 23):
Looks like a pretty decent flight, nice to have an open seat next to you, food looked pretty good and the breakfast puts pretty much all US carriers to shame.

Yes, a very good flight and breakfast was pretty good too. I've had some good breakfasts recently on US carries but on TransPacific flights.

Was on CO ZRH - EWR - LAX rtn and was really not bad at all!!! Personally think that the Asian Carriers are the best. Sure then not on LCC!!
 
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Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:45 pm

Hi Lars

Great report, thanks for sharing!
Really nice to see AZ improving on their overall service. Their 777s look pretty nice.
Meals look very nice as well
Really like the first pic of the head to head shot with the 777

Greetings
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Sun Jun 17, 2012 5:05 pm

Hi The 777Man !
hunting 777 around the world ... nice sport ... after Alitalia and Biman adventure is it anything left ...hehehe ... always good food in Italians ... I'm glad that you enjoyed ...stipica  
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Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:15 am

Thanks again for more comments !

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 26):
Great report, thanks for sharing!

Thank you Marc!

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 26):
Meals look very nice as well

A big improvement from the last time 9 years ago.

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 26):
Really like the first pic of the head to head shot with the 777

Yes, that is a nice angle of the 777.

Quoting stipica (Reply 27):
hunting 777 around the world ... nice sport ...

Yes I do enjoy it a lot. I wish I could do it full time...... 
Quoting stipica (Reply 27):
fter Alitalia and Biman adventure is it anything left

Only ones coming up are Garuda and Turkmenistan. Possibly China Eastern as well. I still will write some reports on carriers that I flew on but took no pictures of when I flew them. Hopefully one more like that later this year.

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Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:26 pm

Hi Lars,

Another great 777 report as usual. Looks like you had a good flight with AZ, they really have improved!

Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
I sat down and could tell right away that legroom was good.

Looks pretty generous

Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
I also saw the HUGE IFE box underneath

wow that thing is very big!

Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
The door closed and the seat next to me remained open which was great. The second center seat was also open but there was someone in the other aisle seat.

Always nice to have that on such a long flight

Looking forward to your next TR  

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Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:26 am

Hi Lars,

Nice little report on your AZ 777 flight. AZ seems to have a quite decent longhaul product. Their 777’s seems somewhat of the older type, no?

Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
I also saw the HUGE IFE box underneath

What a monstrous box that is. Glad it didn’t bother you.

Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
The seat was also very comfortable.

Those look pretty stylish in that grey fabric, although they look on the thin side.

Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
The crew were doing drink runs about every hour and it was good to see that it was not only water but also juice, milk and Coca-cola as well.

  

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Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:46 pm

Hi Lars!

Love that intro picture, such a great shot really bringing out the size of this behemoth of a plane!

Great for you to give AZ a second try - I guess they are a completely different airline now than ten years ago.

Those meals look quite mediocre - some of the appetizers and condiments seem very good but not sure about the main dish. The pasta looks okay, but not sure about the meat. Nice looking seats.
 
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Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:14 pm

Hey, Lars,

really good to follow another T7 adventure. Well done by AZ, so it looks like.
Also nice pictures.

Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
Inspector Montalbano

Read a couple of books here, good stuff.

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Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:42 pm

Hej Lars!

Again a nice tripreport! I very much enjoyed to read this report of AZ longhaul after recently trying them for the first time myself. Although on a short domestic flight.
Good to see that AZ took well care of you.

Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
I also saw the HUGE IFE box underneath but it wasn’t too bad as it was mostly under the seat next to me.

It does indeed look quite big, and possibly very annoying if the entire thing eats up ones legroom.

Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
The seat was also very comfortable.

It does look nice, but also narrow. Which I guess is the standard on these 777's with 3-4-3 seating.
Speaking of 777's, I should really get around logging one, I have never flown any!

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Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:30 pm

Quoting The777Man (Reply 8):
That's too bad connections don't work on the way back to CCS. Perhaps they only focus on domestic Italian connections. Or you fly out of the day before and spend an evening in Rome

well - what I noticed they are trying to sell combined flights with AF

outbound on AZ and inbound to CCS via CDG AF service...
The option to spend 1 or even 2 evenings in Rome would be absolutly go but our youngest member of the family is just 5 months old so at least in the next 2 years a no go.

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Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:55 pm

Thanks for more comments !

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 29):
Looks pretty generous

It was okay but nothing exceptional.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 29):
wow that thing is very big!

It's as big as a carry on bag! Never seen anything like it before.

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 29):
Always nice to have that on such a long flight

Makes a very big difference for me. I was very happy about that.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 30):
Their 777’s seems somewhat of the older type, no?

Well, it's a -200/ER and about 9 years old but other than that more or less the same as the ones they make now. The newer ones have longer overhead bins but that's the only visible difference I can think of.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 30):
What a monstrous box that is.

If it was half the size, it would still have been twice as big as anything else I have ever seen on a plane.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 30):
Those look pretty stylish in that grey fabric, although they look on the thin side.

Seats were comfortable.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 31):
Love that intro picture, such a great shot really bringing out the size of this behemoth of a plane!

Thanks ! Yes, I like that angle as well.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 31):
Great for you to give AZ a second try - I guess they are a completely different airline now than ten years ago.

The crew was better and so was the catering. IFE was exactly the same

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 31):
Those meals look quite mediocre - some of the appetizers and condiments seem very good but not sure about the main dish. The pasta looks okay, but not sure about the meat

Meals may not have looked all that great but were very very tasty including the meat in the dinner. Looks can be deceiving.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 32):
Read a couple of books here, good stuff.

I don't watch many TV series but that is one of them. Very entertaining!

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 33):
I very much enjoyed to read this report of AZ longhaul after recently trying them for the first time myself. Although on a short domestic flight.
Good to see that AZ took well care of you.

Good to hear that you tried AZ even though on a short flight. Looking forward to the trip report!

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 33):
possibly very annoying if the entire thing eats up ones legroom.

I'm very happy I wasn't in the seat next to where I was sitting since there was hardly no legroom, just a huge box....

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 33):
Speaking of 777's, I should really get around logging one, I have never flown any!

You are young so you have plenty of time to go on one!

Quoting Avianca (Reply 34):
outbound on AZ and inbound to CCS via CDG AF service...
The option to spend 1 or even 2 evenings in Rome would be absolutly go but our youngest member of the family is just 5 months old so at least in the next 2 years a no go.

Perhaps they will change the schedule on the return flight from Italy and it will work for you. AZ was really good. I'm not so sure about their 763s though; they may not have PTVs but not so many left in AZ's fleet.

Thanks again for all the comments!

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Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:19 pm

Hi, Lars!

Good brief report on AZ longhaul these days. I love to see their 777's, coming in together in NRT when I visited the airport many times. The green fits that plane very nicely, I think.
Aside from that this TR is more interesting now I'm planning a trip on their 777 myself (with some others haha). The meal surely is sufficient, not sure about breakfast though. Looks a bit small.
Did AZ offer a snack mid-flight? Like icecream, sandwich, noodles or chocolate bars? Would be nice to know what is available throughout.

Looking forward to your next report,

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Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:16 am

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 36):
Good brief report on AZ longhaul these days. I love to see their 777's, coming in together in NRT when I visited the airport many times. The green fits that plane very nicely, I think.
Aside from that this TR is more interesting now I'm planning a trip on their 777 myself (with some others haha). The meal surely is sufficient, not sure about breakfast though. Looks a bit small.
Did AZ offer a snack mid-flight? Like icecream, sandwich, noodles or chocolate bars? Would be nice to know what is available throughout.

Hi Eric!

Thanks for your reply!

The dinner was very good and the breakfast was great too. I don't think it was that small. You could perhaps ask for another croissant more. I'm not sure if they had a mid-flight snack. I was sleeping a little bit so it may have been around that time.

You should have a nice flight, at least I had a great flight to FCO. Most flights to NRT should be great if only for the purpose of going there.....

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Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:11 pm

Hello Lars,

How nice to read your report about Alitalia 777, especially when your overall experience with their TATL service was a true satisfactory!  


Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
I first flew on a Alitalia 777 on 1Mar03 and wrote a trip report but with no pictures. So when I was going to Italy to see my friends there, this was a good opportunity to AZ and their 777 again

You proved that there’s always a next time.

Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
I sat down and could tell right away that legroom was good.

SeatGuru says 32 inch. But the legroom seems bigger. The seats must be better padded.

Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
I also found an unopened snack in the seat pocket in front of me.

Don't you think they put it specially for you as a compensation to the missed window seat?   


Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
it was not only water but also juice, milk and Coca-cola as well.

Milk? What a refreshing idea to keep yourself hydrated this way!  


Thank you for sharing. I am sorry for my belated reply.

Best regards,
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Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:43 pm

Hi Suryo!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 38):
How nice to read your report about Alitalia 777

Thanks ! It was a very nice flight!

Quoting akhmad (Reply 38):
ou proved that there’s always a next time.

Yes, I've decided to try some 777 carriers that I've already flown to make improved reports with pictures so there will be more of these.  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 38):
SeatGuru says 32 inch. But the legroom seems bigger. The seats must be better padded.

32in sounds about right. Still comfortable enough for me.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 38):
Don't you think they put it specially for you as a compensation to the missed window seat?

Yes, probably!  
Quoting akhmad (Reply 38):
Milk? What a refreshing idea to keep yourself hydrated this way!

Always nice to have more options; TG have even more options.

Quoting akhmad (Reply 38):
Thank you for sharing. I am sorry for my belated reply.

No problem; always great to hear from you.

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Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:31 pm

Thanks for posting Lars....I along with a few other people have recently purchased some rather cheap AZ tickets so it's good to see their onboard service is quite nice. I'm booked to NRT in September, and the seat map is also showing 3x4x3 - i'm glad that the legroom makes up for the narrow seats.
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Sun Jul 01, 2012 9:41 am

Hi Lars,

great report about your latest 777 mission. I just had a look at my report from 2008 in order to make a comparison.

Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
I noticed once I got on board that the configuration was 3-4-3 rather than the 3-3-3 that I had expected. There was also a small Premium Economy class section of 3 rows (2-4-2) which I think is fairly new.

That's too bad - AF first, then KL, now AZ.

Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
I also saw the HUGE IFE box underneath but it wasn’t too bad as it was mostly under the seat next to me.

Those large boxes are really bad, but I guess they're so much cheaper than the small versions used by EK and others.

Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
Options were beef or fish and I had the beef. It also came with a ham appetizer, pasta and honey dew melon along with grape for dessert. There was also a piece of bread but no salad. I still preferred the pasta instead of a salad so still a fairly large meal. It was very tasty.

I'm glad that AZ still serves good and large long-haul meals. I also had pasta in adition to the main course.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 15):
Not too often we get to see Alitalia Long Haul reports on the forum, more importantly the last one in Y on the T7 was from PlaneHunter right before the "bankruptcy" if memory serves me right.

The food onboard looked almost identical to what PH was served.

Interesting to hear you still remember all that!


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Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:38 pm

Thanks for sharing your trip with us here.
The food portions look very good and it looks like it would taste good too.
The seating looks a little cramped but the seats themselves look comfortable, with the exception of the IFE box.

Kev.
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RE: AZ 777 LAX-FCO In Y With Pics

Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:29 am

Hi PlaneHunter!

Very good to hear from you!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 41):
great report about your latest 777 mission. I just had a look at my report from 2008 in order to make a comparison.

Yes, always nice to compare experiences.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 41):
Those large boxes are really bad, but I guess they're so much cheaper than the small versions used by EK and others.

I guess that would explain it. It's not just large; look at the size in comparison to my foot! It's like having a roller board bag underneath your seat. I was lucky there was no one next to me.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 41):
I'm glad that AZ still serves good and large long-haul meals. I also had pasta in adition to the main course.

Good to know that they had great meals before as well; Italy has really wonderful food!

Quoting FlyKev (Reply 42):
The seating looks a little cramped but the seats themselves look comfortable, with the exception of the IFE box.

Yes, it may be more cramped if it's completely full. The seat was comfortable though.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 41):
That's too bad - AF first, then KL, now AZ.

It seems to be a bad trend......

Thanks again for the replies!

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RE: AZ 777 LAX-FCO In Y With Pics

Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:10 am

Nice trip report. Since you're probably the only member here who's flown the 777 more than anyone, I need to know:

1. Which airlines 777's have you not yet flown.

2. Which was your worst 777 experience as in the state of the aircraft, service etc.
 
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RE: AZ 777 LAX-FCO In Y With Pics

Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:07 am

Hi mjabbasi!

Thanks for your comments and questions:

Quoting mjabbasi (Reply 44):
1. Which airlines 777's have you not yet flown.

I have flown all carriers that have had 777s delivered directly from Boeing. Some carriers currently operating 777s have got them in second-hand i.e. Transaero, Omni, Royal Brunei etc.

Quoting mjabbasi (Reply 44):
2. Which was your worst 777 experience as in the state of the aircraft, service etc.

Aeroflot Russian International Airlines (SU) ; aircraft was only about three years old but the upholstery was already worn off some of the seats, the seats were really hard, food was not very good and service poor as well. On top of that I sat next to a Mongolian man who reeked of urine......

That said, I think Aeroflot has changed a lot in the 11 years since I flew them so I think that their new 77Ws that they are getting late this year or early next, will be much better. Perhaps I should try them again and write a trip report ?  

For more info on my 777 flying, check out my profile.

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RE: AZ 777 LAX-FCO In Y With Pics

Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:08 pm

Hi Lars,

This one kept slipping from getting my responses lol....Really glad to see you taking this flight. Most of what I would have like to comment on, have already been answered, so no comments this time.

I do have one comment.....do you only fly 777s???
 
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RE: AZ 777 LAX-FCO In Y With Pics

Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:34 pm

Hello Lars!

Thanks for the nice report! AZ look like a good airline 
Quoting The777Man (Thread starter):
Inspector Montalbano (Italian TV-series). I watched Montalbano first and soon the dinner was served.

I love these show too. They regularly show it on Swedish TV 

Greetings

Robert
 
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RE: AZ 777 LAX-FCO In Y With Pics

Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:50 pm

Hi !

Thanks for more comments !

Quoting flightsimboy (Reply 46):
I do have one comment.....do you only fly 777s???

No, of course not. But I only write trip reports when I fly a 777 carrier I haven't been on or when flying a 777 I haven't done a trip report on with pictures, like in this case.

See my profile for Aircraft Flown with in 2012 for a detailed information on which aircraft I've flown with recently.

Quoting Parton87 (Reply 47):
I love these show too. They regularly show it on Swedish TV 

Yes, it's a co-production between Sveriges Television and RAI so that makes sense. It's very good and very difficult to figure out who is guilty person in each episode. My favorite TV-show and I don't watch much TV.

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[Edited 2012-07-05 10:54:27]
Boeing 777s flown: UA, TG, KE, BA, CX, NH, JD, JL, CZ, SQ, EK, NG, CO, AF, SV, KU, DL, AA, MH, OZ, CA, MS, SU, LY, RG, PE, AZ, KL, VN, PK, EY, NZ, AM, BR, AC, DT, UU, OS, AI, 9W, KQ, QR, VA, JJ, ET, TK, PR, BG, T5, CI, MU and LX.. Further to fly.. LH 777

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