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US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:30 pm

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Introduction

This is the fourth part of my Summer 2012 US Trip Report. It covers my first encounter with Delta with the flights from Fort Lauderdale to Washington D.C. via Atlanta (what else?).

For the earlier parts, see these:

- Part 0: US Trip 2012 Part 0: Prologue (JYV-TLL) (by FlyingFinn76 Jun 12 2012 in Trip Reports)
- Part 1: US Trip 2012 Part 1: Warming Up (HEL-TXL-BRU) (by FlyingFinn76 Jun 20 2012 in Trip Reports)
- Part 2: US Trip 2012 Part 2: Oh (Air) Canada: BRU-YUL-YYZ (by FlyingFinn76 Jun 26 2012 in Trip Reports)
- Part 3: US Trip 2012 Part 3: JetDashBlue (YYZ-EWR-FLL) (by FlyingFinn76 Jun 30 2012 in Trip Reports)

So the previous parts had gotten me as far as Dania Beach, FL, right next to the FLL airport. I sure love flying a lot, but I still wanted to spend at least a day or two somewhere interesting - and this time Southern Florida didn’t really appeal to me! With this in mind I narrowed it down to one of the large cities on the east coast - easy to get back to NYC for my flight home on Monday and plenty of things to see there. Eventually after playing around with various booking engines and fares I decided I’d head to D.C. - I’ve heard plenty of good things about the place and I found a great fare with Delta for 90 USD. So another new airline for me then.

There were plenty of flight options for that fare - mostly via the Delta fortress hub at ATL but also at least one flight via CVG, and an MD-88 would be operating the FLL-CVG sector! That was very tempting, but in the end I decided to take out the first flight of the day at OMG o’clock ex-FLL just have more time to spend in Washington. I also opted to fly into DCA since there were more flights available and of course I was hoping for the stunning approach down the Potomac.

Initially both flights were on 757s (-200 models unfortunately) but then DL gave me a nice gift - the ATL-DCA segment was changed to an MD-88 - I was pretty happy about this as it is a very rare plane nowadays. I’ve done two MD-88 flights with IB, but still wouldn’t mind another one. Some two months later however DL took the carrot away and I noticed the flight was now on a 737-800, probably the most boring plane model out there, yikes! Well, there’s nothing I can do but to make sure I reserve the best seats in the house using the DL’s website - and thankfully being Skyteam Gold I could reserve seats on the so called “Economy Comfort” section in the front of the Y cabin - a couple of rows with additional legroom.

The simple route for today:

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Saturday 16.6.2012

Another early start this morning, getting up before half past three (that’s AM, in the case you are wondering), a bit earlier than my alarm would’ve gone off. After the usual morning stuff and cursing a couple of times the fact that I decided to do this trip carry on only (somehow during a trip your stuff seems to evolve to use up much more space than what it did when you left home, neatly packed and all...) I head downstairs to check out. Nobody at the reception desk but a family of four or five persons is there. I say that I’m very surprised that I’m not the only one up at this horrible early hour - well turns out they are not early but *late* instead, having just recently arrived on a very delayed flight and are now waiting for a bit of a breakfast (shouldn’t that be supper or a night snack then?) before hitting the sack. They are sort of baffled that I have already slept and this is an early morning for me...

Anyway I soon manage to check out and hit the roads. Driving at this hour is an absolute delight as I think I see a grand total of two cars during the short drive back to the airport and I think both of those are heading to the 24H IHOP that’s halfway down the road to the airport - I’m not sure why someone would want to eat pancakes in the middle of the night - but hey, if you want you can! The drive is so short in fact that the needle is still showing F so no need to spend any money on gas with this car! A nice Filipino chap accepts the car just fine and directs me to complete the paperwork inside.

The drop off is handled far quicker than the way slow pick up process the previous night and the guy laughs at me when I ask whether it is possible to *walk* over to T2 (I saw that T1 was basically right next to the car park and rental facility) - “Yeah, but it’ll take you ages” he says. So into the shuttle bus I go, and I have to admit I’m quite surprised to see that it pulls off at the T2 curb less than two minutes after leaving the parking/car rental facility. I bet I could’ve walked this in five minutes!

T2 looks just quite depressing at this early hour - bright, fluorescent lights, low ceilings and the omnipresent carpeting. The check in is not yet staffed, although there are plenty of people around:

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FIDS - yes, I’m on the first flight of the day. I wonder why this display is sorted chronologically when the norm here is to do it alphabetically:

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I join the Priority Access queue which is much shorter than the one for the Great Unwashed. While waiting I squash a cockroach on the floor much to the horror of the Californian lady in front of me - welcome to Florida - I also got bitten by some fire ants in my hotel room the previous night!

Soon an unnaturally chirpy (for this hour) woman shows up and proceeds to turn on the self service kiosks bolted to the check in desks and asks us to check ourselves in. This is another thing I don’t really understand - many carriers on most big American airports have these kind of things - you are supposed to check yourself in and are only allowed to talk to an agent in person if the machine spits out a special card saying so. Well that would still be okay, but I don’t understand why couldn’t they have the machines running 24H - you still need to queue which seems to be a bit pointless to me especially since I’m not planning to drop any luggage off and have already done OLCI - I just need my (flimsy) pieces of paper to be set. Oh well, a minute after we get the permission to do so I’m in possession of my two boarding passes for the day and proceed towards security.

The security is your usual TSA affair, first the boarding pass checker is trying hard to look like a figure of authority, taking a long hard look at my boarding pass and an even a longer one to my passport before scrawling something completely illegible on the BP and grunting something which I assume means “Ok, go on” but could just as well be a suppressed burp... Shoes and everything off and thru the nudiescope again, and that’s it, I’m airside. No, nobody offered me the choice for opting out of the nudie scan this time, not that I’d wanted to anyway!

Airside - so empty:

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Here’s my ride:

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It turns out to be N673DL, the expected 752, will be doing the honors of serving as an introduction to my 150th airline flown - Delta.

Next I head to Delta’s Skyclub:

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I thought that Delta was a bit more lax with their lounge access rules and offered it to Skyteam Gold members but this turns out not to be the case - you still need a same day international (presumably Skyteam) flight. Well the agent is very friendly and says that she’ll make a one time exception (yeah right, I bet she has done these a lot during the years...) and admit me in. I thank her and tell her that I definitely appreciate her gesture. I also ask about my position on the upgrade list - when I checked last night I was still at position three with at least six First class seats still available. She says that things are looking good for me, which I’m delighted to hear!

Well, this Sky Club is nothing to write home about - but at least it beats the public areas. Reminds me of many generic Servisair lounges in the UK:

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717flyer would be happy with the muffin selection here - I am happy with the bagels:

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The staffed (well not at this moment though) bar can be seen towards the left:

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Breakfast:

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My ride, parked right outside - during the night a thunderstorm passed over, hence the air is fresh, and clear outside:

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The MD-88 to Covington at the next gate:

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After two cups of coffee and two bagels (and a token muffin) it is time to board:

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I ask the gate agent about my upgrade - at the same time he scans my boarding pass, the machine beeps and he hands me a new boarding pass for seat 3B - “I guess that’s your upgrade right there!”. Hey, Delta is definitely trying hard to impress me and win me over!

FLL - ATL
DL2127
B757-200 N673DL
Seat 3B
5.48 - 7.28

The jetway is attached to door 2L so I get to do the rather novel right turn after stepping onboard - I think the last time I did this was boarding an Air Finland 757 at Málaga Airport a bit over a year ago...

The welcome from the FA at the door wasn’t very welcoming at all, just a forced faux smile, but once I enter the First class cabin the attitude of the FAs is noticeably different - all smiles and friendliness. The ladies working up front are quite senior, but very friendly and good.

As with most carriers in the US, the domestic F cabin is in 2-2 layout with rather large and very nice looking leather chairs. And not only feeling, once I sit down I also notice that the seats indeed are very comfortable!

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Plenty of legroom and enough pockets for all kinds of stuff:

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There’s already a mini bottle of water in the seat pocket, very much appreciated:

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I’m not very happy with my aisle seat, but after checking with the purser she says that all the F seats will be taken today so unless I want to ask someone for a swap I’m stuck here. I make a half hearted attempt asking my seatmate (who I already saw at security and the Club - he greets me by saying “We seem to be running into each other all the time this morning!”) but he says he prefers to sleep leaning on the wall, fair enough. So I guess it’s an aisle seat then for me for a change.

Delta (like most US carriers - they are such a copycats when one of them introduces something new the rest will soon follow) has introduced the gogo inflight wifi to most (all?) of its domestic fleet, hence this sign above:

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This is actually quite a nice feature - DL gives you 15 minutes free which is enough to download your emails and other reading material for the flight, so it is not really necessarily to pay money for an extended connection at least on a flight of this length.

Predeparture beverages are offered, I opt for more water. The crew makes repeated announcements about how they want to achieve an on time departure and for that reason everyone should find a place for their carryons and settle down as fast as possible. Eventually everybody does, and we manage to push back eight minutes late.

The CEO saying hello in the welcome video:

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Followed by the scary, very scary Deltalina in the safety video:

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A lengthy taxi to 09L later we take off quite powerfully towards the Atlantic, performing a lazy left hand turn over the ocean to point us towards the northwest. A new day dawning from the east:

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During the flight there are frequent beverage runs - the FAs ask each (awake) passenger individually about our drink choices and then deliver those one at a time which adds a bit of classiness to the service:

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I guess again I expected something a bit more in First class for this flight with a scheduled block time of 1h45mins - a sandwich or a breakfast bagel or something like that, but it turns out three passes with the snack basket it all we get. I start with some peanuts.

Whoa, a grumpy old creature of habit is actually reading his favorite newspaper from an Ipad (conveniently downloaded using the free gogo time) - what is this world coming to:

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Sure it is no replacement for the good old dead tree -based version, but hey, it’ll get me my fix while on the road far away from home!

The snack basket is full of your usual junk food - but at least they have bananas there so for the second pass I opt for one:

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I seem to be pretty much the only passenger awake in the cabin - all the others are snoring away. I am not feeling tired at all (thanks to all these early morning wakeups I don’t think I ever got fully accustomed to the local time during this trip, come to think of it)...

In what feels like no time at all but in reality must’ve been an hour or so we are already on our way down towards Atlanta.

Hello, Georgia:

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See, I’m not the only one wearing a stylish hat:

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Atlanta skyline during our finals towards the east:

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Almost there:

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Landing on runway 10, total flight time around one and half hours:

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Must-have-a-717-in-a-report:

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(Wait, am I not supposed to fly one in two days?!)

With 10-28 being the southernmost runway and with two active runways between us and the terminals it takes a while to get there, so despite landing almost ten minutes early we are somewhat late at the gate. But hey, such is life in the busiest airport in the world!

Once we have parked, everybody gets up, eager to get off the plane and make their connections... but.... nothing happens. The jetway is there, but the door is not open and there’s no telltale knock on it signaling the cabin crew that it should be opened.

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This is what one of the ceiling mounted monitors looks like from the behind - at least it is an LCD display and not a horrible old CRT like on some 757s I’ve seen:

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People are getting restless, there’s a quick announcement by the purser that they don’t really know what is going on but something with the jetway is not really working the way it is supposed to be. Five or so minutes passes, and finally the jetway moves a notch and the doors are opened, much to the delight of the mass of humanity that pours out of the plane as a result.

Hartsfield–Jackson Atlanta International Airport

Entering the terminal there’s a Delta agent helping people with connections. I ask “Reagan?” and he says “Tango 10”. Well, I have no idea where I am right now but see a sign pointing towards the other concourses so powerwalk there - soon I find out we are in the E concourse which is quite a long way from T!

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This E concourse looks quite nice, way better than the tired FLL terminal:

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I find it funny that Aldeasa operates a duty free store here as well:

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The signs point downstairs to a tunnel:

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There’s an option of either walking or waiting for the automated shuttle train thingy. Since T is the furthest one from E I decide to wait for the train - had it been the next one I’d just walked it instead.

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Whoa, carpeting inside the train - what the hell were they thinking:

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T concourse looks nice as well. I spot a couple of 738s at nearby gates so maybe I’ll still make it.

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...and if not maybe I’ll go here then:

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I arrive to a deserted gate but with the door to the jetway still open (good) and two agents at the podium (super). One of them asks me “Mr <something definitely not Finn>?”
- “No, Mr. Finn.”.
- “Ahh, we just paged you! Good that you made it.”
- “Well I arrived at the E concourse and made it here in under ten minutes!”
- “Have a nice flight, sir..”

Right after me another passenger arrives, I think he was on my flight as well - I guess he is Mr <something definitely not Finn>. No chance to catch the registration of my bird, but it definitely is a 738 at least.

ATL - DCA
DL1038
B737-800 N3768
Seat 11A
8.10 - 9.39

As I expected it is completely full apart from my seat in the economy comfort section of the plane and apparently the other guy’s seat somewhere way back. I make the token effort of opening a couple of overhead bins but everything is jam packed - well what did I really expect? One of the FAs looks at me with a half amused and half pitied (“Is this guy for real?”) expression on her face and shakes her head. The cabin chief waves me over and says that I need to surrender my rollaboard to the ramp agent in the jetway. I see no other choice so do so - he says he’ll get back to me with my luggage tag in a moment.

I make myself comfortable, chat some small talk with my seatmate who was supposed to fly home from Vegas already yesterday evening but their plane to MSP had gone mech at the last moment and he was rebooked on a red eye flight to ATL and is only now returning home. He says he slept two hours on the plane and certainly doesn’t look too good at the moment. Not surprisingly he keeps nodding off during the flight.

Soon I’m handed my luggage tag (thanks!) and the doors are closed, a flight time of 1h25mins is announced and push back conducted. And amazingly we manage to do so five minutes ahead of schedule - not too shabby at all!

757s next to us:

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Another MD-88:

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Starting our take off roll from 09L:

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Bye ATL, you were certainly a fast experience:

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ATL skyline again:

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What’s this - definitely not downhill skiing in Hotlanta:

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More man made mounds:

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A quarry:

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Sprawling subdivisions:

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The weather is excellent with good visibility so I’m mostly glued to my window.

The 738s feature PTVs - and surprisingly large ones at that:

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No idea what is offered there - I of course kept it on airshow all throughout the flight.

Anderson, SC - that sounds remotely familiar:

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Service is a quick drinks run and it of course wouldn’t be a Delta flight without some Biscoff. Another Ginger Ale test is performed - not sure what the brand is but it was quite mediocre:

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Here is Winston-Salem, NC - famous for the tobacco industry:

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Closeup on downtown:

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And the Smith Reynolds Airport:

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Danville (what a name), VA:

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Danville Regional Airport:

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Getting nearer:

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This flight literally flew past - I’m very surprised and kind of disappointed by the captain’s announcement about our descent for Reagan National Airport. I’m also very surprised that there’s no mention of that 30 minute “buckle up” rule for flights into DCA that was put into effect after 9/11 - have they done away with it? Anyway the captain also says that we are landing on the 01 towards the north so no Potomac approach for me, bummer!

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Haha, I like this:

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We crossed over to Maryland:

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Which one is mine - they all look alike:

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The Potomac river:

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Our shadow:

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Interesting spaghetti junction in Alexandria, VA:

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Government offices:

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Over the Washington Beltway which itself is taking a bridge over the Potomac:

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George Washington Masonic National Monument - yes, he was a member:

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Alexandria, VA:

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And finally DCA:

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US has a large hub operation here:

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Jetblue taking off after us:

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Parking next to one of these regional jets with all the whistles:

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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:33 pm

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Due to the me boarding the last I didn’t take any cabin photos at ATL so I wait until most of the front rows are empty and take a few. Legroom is okay:

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Yep, a lovely concept:

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First class:

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Bye, 3768:

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Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport

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Oh yes, you are in Washington:

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I make my way to the baggage belt, passing the famous departure hall on the way:

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Nice - wouldn’t have minded flying one of these birds here, sadly that hasn’t been possible for a long time now:

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It takes a while for the bags to come out but there’s a free wifi (oh my, what is happening - many of the US and Canadian airports I passed through had free wifi nowadays - this is socialism!) so no problems waiting for a while.

This one caused a few chuckles - sorry for the bad photo but it is a children’s toothbrush making rounds on the baggage belt:

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Eventually I get my belt and head upstairs to check out the departure hall:

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Quite impressive architecture, although those exposed steel beams remind me of that indoor market in the city centre of Sofia of all places, giving the place a bit of an industrial look:

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Apron views are excellent:

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Then it is time to head across the walkway to the metro:

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The grandfatheresque guy at the ticket booth informs me that there’s no way to buy a SmarTrip card they so much advertise these days on a weekend - really great! So back to using more expensive single tickets then.

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View to the terminal from the metro station platform:

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Despite it being barely eleven my hotel room is ready and the delightfully nice and friendly older Croatian guy checks me in very efficiently. I’m staying at The Latham Hotel in Georgetown which I again pricelined for around 50 EUR. The TripAdvisor reviews were a bit of a mixed bunch - but here’s my take:

- The location is excellent, right on the M street on the easternmost part of Georgetown. Certain reviews make it sound like it is far, far away from the nearest Metro stop but in fact I walked from the Foggy Bottom station in just 15 minutes. The very handy (and dirt cheap at one dollar a pop) DC Circulator bus service also passes right in front of the hotel.
- Sure it is old fashioned and somewhat worn down - we are talking about tube televisions in rooms etc., but this is Georgetown and I don’t think an ultra modern hotel and decor would feel very appropriate here anyway. Fine for me.
- Yes, you actually enter from the fourth floor, so to get to my room on the third floor you have to go down with the elevator which feels somewhat weird. And the other elevator was still broken.
- There are no windows in the third floor rooms as these are underground. This doesn’t matter to me, but if it does there are also higher floor rooms available.
- There’s free and very fast wifi all throughout the facility and it worked fine.

For me this was the perfect hotel, no real complaints.

Interestingly they have built a faux village in the third floor corridor:

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Working room:

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And a separate bedroom:

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Hmm, what’s that:

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Oh, a blast from the past:

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Some photos from Washington:

Probably the cutest gas station ever at the edge of Georgetown:

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Bohemian tranquility in Georgetown (if you got the money for it):

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US State Department:

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Lots of folks over at the Vietnam War memorial:

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World War II memorial:

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The Washington Monument - sadly closed due to the earthquake some years ago:

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I’ve always wanted to do this - laze in a tree:

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Some kind of concert going on at the National Mall:

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I guess it takes all kinds - must be from Pennsylvania:

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Hmm, wonder what that’s all about:

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The Smithsonian Castle:

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A better view from the adjacent nice gardens:

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Oooh, the beloved and behated FAA:

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Smithsonian National Air & Space Museum - the Dulles facility will have to wait until the next time:

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These photos by Jeffrey Milstein mostly at LAX were amazing - I actually bought a poster of one but sadly left that somewhere along the journey as it was too bulky to fit in my bags, bugger:

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The future?

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What’s this:

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Oh:

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Sadly Mulder & Scully had the weekend off.

For the conspirationists:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_4/Washington_31.jpg

LOL 1:

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/FlyingFinn_photo/Eastern_Seaboard_06_2012/Part_4/Washington_32.jpg

Plenty of these rodents around:

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Plenty of folks in front of the...

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...White House, what else:

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Need some money for your country - go here:

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Enjoying an excellent meal at DAS Ethiopian Restaurant - D.C. has a sizeable Ethiopian community:

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On Sunday morning I took a lazy walk on the Georgetown Potomac waterfrant. This is the Chesapeake and Ohio channel - nowadays restored with hiking and biking trails running alongside it:

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It is kinda hard to make out but it reads “The House of Sweden” - it is the Swedish embassy:

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This time planes were doing the Potomac approach so there was a constant stream of them flying down the river at a low altitude - bliss:

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Oh yes, this is the notorious Watergate office complex:

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That’s Virginia on the other side:

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There’s money in Georgetown, I tell ya:

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Those cupcakes must be royal to justify a queue this long:

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Of course no visit to Washington is complete without a visit to Ben’s Chili Bowl. I learned of this place from an old Scanorama magazine some years ago (but of course you shouldn’t be reading airline magazines anyway as that is only for the stupid people like Jonas says) and have wanted to go there ever since:

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Damn, The Finn isn’t on this list:

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It tastes far, far better than it looks:

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But have I forgotten something - oh yes:

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LOL 2:

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Shame about the construction:

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A visit to the US Botanical Gardens - a great and very relaxing way to while away an hour or so:

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Finally a word about the Washington Metro. For people who keep complaining about the London Tube try the D.C. version once and you’ll stop complaining! While it is a handy system for getting around the area it definitely could use a lot of TLC (read: money) right now. I’m talking about dimly lit stations:

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Horribly worn, dirty and shabby, carpeted trains:

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In addition to this the trains seem to randomly terminate at stations along the way instead of their intended terminus, the announcements are completely illegible, half of the escalators are out of order at any given time and so on.

Conclusions

Well, Delta managed to celebrate becoming the 150th airline in my log very well - an upgrade to First Class and two very comfortable and nice flights. Sure the service was what it was but hey, this is the norm these days on flights of this length (and even longer), so it’s not like the grass would be that much greener on the other side of the fence anyway. I really liked these two flights with Delta - it is the little things like the great recognition for FF status and the perks that come with it that most European Airlines could take a long hard look at. The 757 was a bit worn but in a nice way while the 738 was new, clean, comfortable and with a great airshow on the PTV - what more could I want? The Economy Comfort concept is a winner as well methinks.

As for Washington D.C. - what an amazing city! The reality is far, far away from its common imago as just a centre of power and lobbying and a boring office government city with busy office bees and not much else. Certainly there is a lot of that there - but there are also tons of excellent restaurants, world class museums (mostly for free, thanks to the Smithsonian Institution!), lots of lush parks and some delightful old colonial architecture especially in Georgetown. My two days most certainly were not enough to appreciate it all, so rest assured that I will be returning someday... I truly enjoyed my time in the city!

Next part should cover my first flight with AirTran (my 151th airline - and with a 717!), yet another DL flight and finally the second main course - the return transatlantic segment with an SN A333 - the route is BWI-BOS-JFK-BRU.
 
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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:00 pm

Nice TR! Too bad you did not have a chance to explore my home airport in ATL. That was a quick connection. Unfortunately in ATL, about all we have is DL. But at least they service most destinations either nonstop or direct. No more 30 minute rule whilst landing in DCA anymore. DC is really a great town to explore! Glad to see you got a DL upgrade as well! You usually can get an upgrade to most cities in Florida if you have elite status as it is so heavily leisure. Cheers, Will
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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:26 pm

Ah, well done, P.,
and hopefully looking for much more stories from you´re hand.
FLL is by now really well covered during the last time. ATL anyway, but the pictures from Washington really nice, good work. Never been there myself.
Good to know about the DL upgrade, it doesn´t work for me, you know, the last time on DL.

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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:14 pm

Again you have done yourself a great report. Your choice of eating establishment in D.C. is one of my favourite places to eat as well. The pictures were incredible.
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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:29 am

Really nice report, flyingfinn!

I was just at many of the places you visited in DC back in May. What a great city! Hotel sounds nice, and a really good deal!

DL F looks pretty normal, and what would be expected; it does seem weird they didn't even serve you a continental breakfast or something for a flight of that length, yet I've been on flights of that duration before and haven't gotten anything.

Looks like you had some good weather in DC! How cool!

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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:37 am

Nice trip report and very typical for Delta.

Alas I'm not surprised at the lack of food on your flight...in fact you should be pleased that you got a banana! There are usually only a few in the "snack basket" so after the first few rows of first class there are usually no more bananas left!
 
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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:54 am

Per the DL lounge policy, I think you have to be ElitePlus to get the Lounge. However, if the lounge isn't crowded, DL will often let mid level elites into the lounge.

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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:57 am

Whats with Ben's chili bowl?? Bill Cosby , Obama and family eat free and no one else? Kinda racist no?? Real nice pics though awesome trip report. Actually of both of them neither one needs to eat free..How bout give a free meal to someone who really needs it

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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:33 am

Hello FlyingFinn,

Despite the fact that apparently this writing thing is becoming something of a drag, you managed again to produce a lovely read. Good and solid flights on DL and you showed us as well that Washington has much more to offer than I would believe at first sight (I’m too stereotyped, lol).

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
and thankfully being Skyteam Gold I could reserve seats on the so called “Economy Comfort” section in the front of the Y cabin - a couple of rows with additional legroom.

Good to see your status paying off here.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
FIDS - yes, I’m on the first flight of the day.

Not as bad as the midnight Fokker I guess but still an insane hour to get up and running for. I’d rather not think yet of the word ‘Tokyo’...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
but I don’t understand why couldn’t they have the machines running 24H

Saving out on power perhaps 

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
She says that things are looking good for me, which I’m delighted to hear!

  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
has introduced the gogo inflight wifi to most (all?) of its domestic fleet

That’s a real good thing, wifi on board. I’ve never experienced that myself. In Europe it’s only Norwegian that has this, no? And some others have ‘gogo inflight entertainment’ as well  

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Must-have-a-717-in-a-report:

Lucky you to get his one framed, otherwise your report wouldn’t have been complete!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Another Ginger Ale test is performed - not sure what the brand is but it was quite mediocre:

Perhaps the mediocrety was enhanced by the fact that they put ice in nearly every served drink. Makes it more watery = less tasty.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I’m also very surprised that there’s no mention of that 30 minute “buckle up” rule for flights into DCA that was put into effect after 9/11

Is/was there actually a rule about that?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Oh, a blast from the past:

Ha ha, great! The room has a slight Nordic feel to it with all that wood.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
There’s money in Georgetown, I tell ya:

I thought that was your rental car...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
the return transatlantic segment with an SN A333 - the route is BWI-BOS-JFK-BRU

Now I’m quite curious as to what you have to say about that particular flight!

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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:13 am

Quoting Davescj (Reply 7):
Per the DL lounge policy, I think you have to be ElitePlus to get the Lounge. However, if the lounge isn't crowded, DL will often let mid level elites into the lounge.

You have to be SkyTeam Elite Plus AND be on an international itinerary on any SkyTeam partner.

If they didn't have the international requirement then all the Delta Platinum and Gold Medallion members (who are SkyTeam Elite Plus) would have lounge access whenever they flew Delta on domestic flights....the lounges would be PACKED even worse than they are now!
 
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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:23 am

Hi there P.,

Thanks for writing up this TR--I hope you'll continue to do so, even if at a lower rate.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Eventually after playing around with various booking engines and fares I decided I’d head to D.C. - I’ve heard plenty of good things about the place and I found a great fare with Delta for 90 USD.

Very good choice. Washington is a nice city from what I've seen--yet it has a horrible reputation as a crime-ridden dump. Well, I'm sure it has its bad areas, but I haven't seen them, so they're easy to avoid.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Well, there’s nothing I can do but to make sure I reserve the best seats in the house using the DL’s website - and thankfully being Skyteam Gold I could reserve seats on the so called “Economy Comfort” section in the front of the Y cabin - a couple of rows with additional legroom.

Oh yes, DL is quite good to AF/KL elites. Thumbs up to them for that!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The drop off is handled far quicker than the way slow pick up process the previous night and the guy laughs at me when I ask whether it is possible to *walk* over to T2 (I saw that T1 was basically right next to the car park and rental facility) - “Yeah, but it’ll take you ages” he says.

Americans hate walking so much... 5 minutes is the absolute maximum someone's willing to walk anywhere. Aside from New York and a couple of other places, maybe.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
. While waiting I squash a cockroach on the floor much to the horror of the Californian lady in front of me - welcome to Florida - I also got bitten by some fire ants in my hotel room the previous night!

Didn't see many insects in FL--but I wasn't looking for any. No fire ant bites either--ouch!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
you still need a same day international (presumably Skyteam) flight. Well the agent is very friendly and says that she’ll make a one time exception (yeah right, I bet she has done these a lot during the years...) and admit me in.

Yeah, that's the rule. Apparently the Caribbean Islands don't count either but they made an exception for me when going to the Bahamas at ATL concourse E.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
As with most carriers in the US, the domestic F cabin is in 2-2 layout with rather large and very nice looking leather chairs. And not only feeling, once I sit down I also notice that the seats indeed are very comfortable!

Yes, they are indeed. Can't complain about the hard product in DL domestic first.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I guess again I expected something a bit more in First class for this flight with a scheduled block time of 1h45mins - a sandwich or a breakfast bagel or something like that, but it turns out three passes with the snack basket it all we get.

No way, the flight's way too short for that. Hehe. It has to be over 901 miles and it has to be meal time, I think. Something like that.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
This E concourse looks quite nice, way better than the tired FLL terminal:

ATL is one of the better looking airports in the USA.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
One of the FAs looks at me with a half amused and half pitied (“Is this guy for real?”) expression on her face and shakes her head. The cabin chief waves me over and says that I need to surrender my rollaboard to the ramp agent in the jetway.

Yeah, they probably should've told you at the gate... They should've given you a pink tag and told you what to do, since you were almost the last to board. (Sorry if they did and I missed it)

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
It takes a while for the bags to come out but there’s a free wifi (oh my, what is happening - many of the US and Canadian airports I passed through had free wifi nowadays - this is socialism!) so no problems waiting for a while.

What, free wi-fi in the USA? I only know MCI that offers that in the States... Well, I'm sure there are more, but that's the only one I use often enough.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Certain reviews make it sound like it is far, far away from the nearest Metro stop but in fact I walked from the Foggy Bottom station in just 15 minutes

15 minutes walking in the States? To public transportation??? No real American would do that 

You'd better rent a car, buddy!  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Oh, a blast from the past:

Heh. Can you see anything on TV from the bed? It looks too small--maybe it's a lapTV.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Finally a word about the Washington Metro.

Public transit--another one of America's problems.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
it is the little things like the great recognition for FF status and the perks that come with it that most European Airlines could take a long hard look at

On the other hand--this is perfectly true. I've only received a handful of upgrades intra-Europe. Just 2 IIRC. Whereas in the US I often get 2 a weekend when I'm flying.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
As for Washington D.C. - what an amazing city! The reality is far, far away from its common imago as just a centre of power and lobbying and a boring office government city with busy office bees and not much else. Certainly there is a lot of that there - but there are also tons of excellent restaurants, world class museums (mostly for free, thanks to the Smithsonian Institution!), lots of lush parks and some delightful old colonial architecture especially in Georgetown. My two days most certainly were not enough to appreciate it all, so rest assured that I will be returning someday... I truly enjoyed my time in the city!

Yes, Washington is one of my fave cities in the States. Had the best thai red curry there. Delicious.

Your Ethiopian dish doesn't look half bad either!

Anyway, thanks a lot for writing. It can indeed be very time-consuming so I appreciate it.

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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:05 pm

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
While waiting I squash a cockroach on the floor much to the horror of the Californian lady in front of me

Was the Californian lady horrifed that you had squashed the cockroach or just horrified that there was a cockroach in the Priority Access queue?

Looking forward to the next instalment.

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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:17 pm

Very enjoyable report!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Those cupcakes must be royal to justify a queue this long:

The bakery is featured in an American cable television show: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Cupcakes

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Finally a word about the Washington Metro. For people who keep complaining about the London Tube try the D.C. version once and you%u2019ll stop complaining! While it is a handy system for getting around the area it definitely could use a lot of TLC (read: money) right now. I%u2019m talking about dimly lit stations:

The dimness was there when I first visited DC 17! years ago - the lamps get dirty and because the fixtures on the platforms are near the wall, the lights can only be replaced when trains are not running. That, and the transit agency has always been short of money for that kind of thing.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Horribly worn, dirty and shabby, carpeted trains:

Those must be the old cars - there are 7 or 8 models of train with the same basic exterior design but different interiors. The new train cars are pretty nice, but you never know when you'll get them. Again, running out of money...
 
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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:38 pm

Hi FlyingFinn!

Very nice report with nice pictures ! You were lucky to get the upgrade from FLL and very lucky you made the connection. US carriers normally don't wait for connections but there would have been another flight to DCA an hour later.

Too bad you didn't get the river approach to DCA which is nicer. I've only landed there myself two or three times and always arrived from the south as well.

Nice pictures from DCA; spent quite a few winter days spotting from the departure hall when I lived in Northern Virginia.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
his is another thing I don’t really understand - many carriers on most big American airports have these kind of things - you are supposed to check yourself in and are only allowed to talk to an agent in person if the machine spits out a special card saying so. Well that would still be okay, but I don’t understand why couldn’t they have the machines running 24H - you still need to queue which seems to be a bit pointless to me especially since I’m not planning to drop any luggage off and have already done OLCI - I just need my (flimsy) pieces of paper to be set.

I think the system is down so the carriers can download updates.

Great pictures from DC; looks like you a lot in a day or two you were there. Too bad it didn't work out for us to meet up there. Hopefully next time you are this side of the Atlantic it will work out.

Looking forward to part 3.

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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:45 pm

Hi FF76!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
FIDS - yes, I’m on the first flight of the day. I wonder why this display is sorted chronologically when the norm here is to do it alphabetically:

I think we know whos the boss at the airport  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

Next I head to Delta’s Skyclub:

Looks kinda like a secret door, "uhh, whats behind?"  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

I ask the gate agent about my upgrade - at the same time he scans my boarding pass, the machine beeps and he hands me a new boarding pass for seat 3B - “I guess that’s your upgrade right there!”. Hey, Delta is definitely trying hard to impress me and win me over!

Thats a very good service I must say

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The CEO saying hello in the welcome video:

Hello!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Once we have parked, everybody gets up, eager to get off the plane and make their connections... but.... nothing happens. The jetway is there, but the door is not open and there’s no telltale knock on it signaling the cabin crew that it should be opened.

I had something (I think its not very similar) in February this year in HEL, our Aircraft was at the Gate but nothing happend, later the Captain was on the PA and told that there is a problem with the jetway because there is some ice, the plane must stop the engines about 10 m before the Jetway and than a tractor must pull us to the jetway, but the tractor was right in the moment "kaputt". Very funny, sitting about 15 mins in the plane and waiting for a new tractor.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Sprawling subdivisions:

Atlanta-Urban-Style?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Oh, a blast from the past:

I have still one of these

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The future?

No no, please not!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

Horribly worn, dirty and shabby, carpeted trains:

Carpet Horror Part 1.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

Whoa, carpeting inside the train - what the hell were they thinking:

Carpet Horror Part 2.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Oh yes, you are in Washington:

Carpet Horror Part 3.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
low ceilings and the omnipresent carpeting

Carpet Horror Part 4.

Hah that was fun! Laughed so much about this carpet horror  
Looking forward for your travel back to HEL!

Greetings
Ideekay

[Edited 2012-07-06 11:45:38]
 
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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:11 pm

Hi folks, good to see so many comments already! Thank you very much!

Quoting globalflyer (Reply 2):
Too bad you did not have a chance to explore my home airport in ATL. That was a quick connection.

Yeah, I'm very glad I made it. On the other hand I'd liked to stay for a little bit longer and explore what ATL has to offer, but on that day I just wanted to get to DC as fast as possible.

Quoting globalflyer (Reply 2):
Unfortunately in ATL, about all we have is DL.

Well, there's FL as well.

Quoting globalflyer (Reply 2):
No more 30 minute rule whilst landing in DCA anymore.

Yeah, so I learned. I must've missed the news of them lifting it.

Quoting globalflyer (Reply 2):
You usually can get an upgrade to most cities in Florida if you have elite status as it is so heavily leisure.

Yep, I sort of figured this one out. Florida and Las Vegas must be good for this.

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3):
but the pictures from Washington really nice, good work. Never been there myself.

So maybe that's where you head next then?

Quoting FLIEGER67 (Reply 3):
Good to know about the DL upgrade, it doesn´t work for me, you know, the last time on DL.

Yeah, I was sort of surprised it didn't happen to you. Doesn't the 753 have an even larger F cabin?

Quoting brilondon (Reply 4):
Again you have done yourself a great report. Your choice of eating establishment in D.C. is one of my favourite places to eat as well. The pictures were incredible.

Thanks a lot for these kind words! Yes, that restaurant was amazing. I was introduced to the Ethiopian/Eritrean cuisine in London back in January so it was great to experience another great meal in this style.

Quoting burj (Reply 6):
Alas I'm not surprised at the lack of food on your flight...in fact you should be pleased that you got a banana! There are usually only a few in the "snack basket" so after the first few rows of first class there are usually no more bananas left!

Yeah, must've been the fact that most pax where asleep so I pretty much had the snack basket all to myself!

Quoting stratosphere (Reply 8):
Whats with Ben's chili bowl?? Bill Cosby , Obama and family eat free and no one else? Kinda racist no?? Real nice pics though awesome trip report. Actually of both of them neither one needs to eat free..How bout give a free meal to someone who really needs it

Hah, well Ben was an Africa American himself so I guess there's nothing racist in it since it is from one bro to another one...  .

Quoting sultanils (Reply 9):
That’s a real good thing, wifi on board. I’ve never experienced that myself. In Europe it’s only Norwegian that has this, no? And some others have ‘gogo inflight entertainment’ as well  

Some of the SAS birds already have it, and they are slowly introducing it to more and more birds. Markus will tell you more once he catches up with his backlog in around 2017.

I'm pretty sure you will see it with Ryanair as well at some point, but most definitely not for free, though!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 9):
Lucky you to get his one framed, otherwise your report wouldn’t have been complete!

Hahaha, well the next part will see my riding one!

Quoting sultanils (Reply 9):
Perhaps the mediocrety was enhanced by the fact that they put ice in nearly every served drink. Makes it more watery = less tasty.

Most of the time they ask whether you want ice or not. As I hate lukewarm soft drinks I usually go for the ice anyway.

Quoting sultanils (Reply 9):
Is/was there actually a rule about that?

Yes, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_...tened_security_and_safety_concerns

Quoting sultanils (Reply 9):
I thought that was your rental car...

Sorry, a scratch in that would have me selling a kidney AND a testicle to cover fo r the damage...

Quoting sultanils (Reply 9):
Now I’m quite curious as to what you have to say about that particular flight!

Well, stay tuned then! But I'll say I wasn't particularly impressed.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 11):
Very good choice. Washington is a nice city from what I've seen--yet it has a horrible reputation as a crime-ridden dump. Well, I'm sure it has its bad areas, but I haven't seen them, so they're easy to avoid.

Yeah, apparently there's quite a clear divide running along a certain street between west (good) and east (bad). I stayed in the west part.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 11):
Oh yes, DL is quite good to AF/KL elites. Thumbs up to them for that!

Yeah, I was kinda impressed by how the status recognition and everything just worked.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 11):
Didn't see many insects in FL--but I wasn't looking for any. No fire ant bites either--ouch!

Hah, I was just sitting in front of the desk, doing some stuff with my laptop when I felt a weird sting on my foot - I watch down and there's a tiny fire ant there. Squished the bugger right there.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 11):
Yeah, that's the rule. Apparently the Caribbean Islands don't count either but they made an exception for me when going to the Bahamas at ATL concourse E.

Somehow I think they tend to make a lot of exceptions...

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 11):
Yeah, they probably should've told you at the gate... They should've given you a pink tag and told you what to do, since you were almost the last to board. (Sorry if they did and I missed it)

No, I didn't get any. Only onboard. The whole gate experience was so fast I guess the agents completely forgot about it!

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 11):
What, free wi-fi in the USA? I only know MCI that offers that in the States... Well, I'm sure there are more, but that's the only one I use often enough.

Well on that side of the Atlantic (at least) the following airports had free wifi on this trip: YUL, YYZ, DCA and BOS. Plus the Union Station in Washington.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 11):
Heh. Can you see anything on TV from the bed? It looks too small--maybe it's a lapTV.

I never opened it.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 11):
On the other hand--this is perfectly true. I've only received a handful of upgrades intra-Europe. Just 2 IIRC. Whereas in the US I often get 2 a weekend when I'm flying.

Well here is a difference - most US carriers these days offer free upgrades to F as part of their FF status perks, which kind of erodes the product as most people don't bother paying for it anymore as they have a good chance of getting it for free anyway. Whereas in Europe upgrades are usually only done to resolve overbooking situations.

Quoting Eurohub (Reply 12):
Was the Californian lady horrifed that you had squashed the cockroach or just horrified that there was a cockroach in the Priority Access queue?

Haha, well mostly by the fact that there was a cockroach there! She certainly wasn't a member of PETA (or maybe PETI, the insect subdivision)  
Quoting threeifbyair (Reply 13):
The bakery is featured in an American cable television show:

Wow, interesting. Thanks for this.

Quoting threeifbyair (Reply 13):
The dimness was there when I first visited DC 17! years ago - the lamps get dirty and because the fixtures on the platforms are near the wall, the lights can only be replaced when trains are not running.

Heh, looks like some things are almost impossible to fix then.

Quoting threeifbyair (Reply 13):
Again, running out of money...

Yes, my point exactly. The system has a decent founding and basic infrastructure, but what it needs is quite a bit of money to bring it up to date (and to keep it there), which of course is very hard to come by.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 14):
Nice pictures from DCA; spent quite a few winter days spotting from the departure hall when I lived in Northern Virginia.

No problems with security there?

Quoting The777Man (Reply 14):
Great pictures from DC; looks like you a lot in a day or two you were there. Too bad it didn't work out for us to meet up there. Hopefully next time you are this side of the Atlantic it will work out.

Oh yeah, I've been thinking about the new SAS route into SFO, would be a great route to do next spring!
 
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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:31 pm

Hi again!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 16):
No problems with security there?

No, never! Surprisingly no problems whatsoever there.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 16):
Oh yeah, I've been thinking about the new SAS route into SFO, would be a great route to do next spring!

Sounds promising! SFO is much closer or perhaps you will fly by here as well ?

Forgot to mention that Delta's Economy comfort is taking after United's Economy Plus; both are regular seats with more legroom. AA has something similar too. It's open for elite flyers but general public can purchase access.

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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:42 pm

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
ATL-DCA segment was changed to an MD-88 - I was pretty happy about this as it is a very rare plane nowadays.

Except for one occasion, I've always gotten on an MD88 for a DCA-ATL flight. Nowadays, that's the only flight I usually take.  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 16):
No problems with security there?

You can do the spotting without going into the actual pier.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Of course no visit to Washington is complete without a visit to Ben’s Chili Bowl.

Love the half smokes there.

And one question. Were you there for the derecho storm, and if so, did you lose power at your hotel?
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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:17 pm

Hey there Petteri FinnFlyer, nice report!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
. While waiting I squash a cockroach on the floor much to the horror of the Californian lady in front of me - welcome to Florida -

Seriously a cockroach in the civilised world? I thought those only existed in 3rd world countries. But then again an american cockroach oughta be stupid enough to run out in an airport terminal full of people. They're usually much smarter than that...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
No, nobody offered me the choice for opting out of the nudie scan this time, not that I’d wanted to anyway!

What's so fun about being nude anyway?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
and offered it to Skyteam Gold

For the 3rd time Petteri, there's no such thing as "Skyteam Gold" It's called Skyteam Elite Plus!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
you still need a same day international (presumably Skyteam) flight.

Interesting, Star Alliance Gold gives you lounge access also on US domestic flights (apart from US and UA *G members of course).

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I also ask about my position on the upgrade list - when I checked last night I was still at position three with at least six First class seats still available.

But again *G doesn't get you upgraded to First. Very nice of Delta to offer Flying Blue Gold members that perk.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Hey, Delta is definitely trying hard to impress me and win me over!

Please don't tell me you'll be flying Delta once you finally decide to move to the US? I bet those crazy hardcore AA folks would welcome you with open arms.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The CEO saying hello in the welcome video:

Why does he get to sit at "his" desk all day? Subtitles doesn't seem to make much sense.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Another Ginger Ale test is performed - not sure what the brand is but it was quite mediocre:

LOL they didn't let you keep the whole can "Sir"? Now that's very poor of Delta!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Which one is mine - they all look alike:

Wait a minute, that looks just like Whisteria Lane! I bet that's the site where they shot the series. In case you ever watched Desperate Housewives.  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Interesting spaghetti junction in Alexandria, VA:

I bet Nils would be having a bast driving through that one!  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
The Washington Monument - sadly closed due to the earthquake some years ago:

That composition couldn't keep me from laughing. Good job "Sir"!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
These photos by Jeffrey Milstein mostly at LAX were amazing

Surprises me that none of those pics were shot by our very own Sam Chui. Looks very similar to his style.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
A visit to the US Botanical Gardens - a great and very relaxing way to while away an hour or so:

The Penis humor continues even here! Very funny 
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
Finally a word about the Washington Metro. For people who keep complaining about the London Tube try the D.C. version once and you’ll stop complaining!

Seriously? I remember watching a show on TV a few years ago praising the Washington DC metro for being one of the best and most beautiful metro networks on the planet, along with the Moscow one.

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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:49 am

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
FIDS - yes, I’m on the first flight of the day. I wonder why this display is sorted chronologically when the norm here is to do it alphabetically:



How DL's FIDS system works, it can be filtered about 10 different ways. Flight number, gate, time (ETD or STD), city a/c type just of the top of my head. The norm is usually STD.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Delta (like most US carriers - they are such a copycats when one of them introduces something new the rest will soon follow) has introduced the gogo inflight wifi to most (all?) of its domestic fleet, hence this sign above:



Yes, DL currently has WiFi on all their domestic mainline a/c and the regional jets with first class (CR7s/CR9s/170s/175s).

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The snack basket is full of your usual junk food - but at least they have bananas there so for the second pass I opt for one:



On morning flights, there's also usually little pre-packaged muffins. Did they have those as well?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
This is what one of the ceiling mounted monitors looks like from the behind - at least it is an LCD display and not a horrible old CRT like on some 757s I’ve seen:



This is actually fairly new. The mods started earlier this year. I'd like to say around April. The the CRTs are being replaced by these LCD monitors.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I’m also very surprised that there’s no mention of that 30 minute “buckle up” rule for flights into DCA that was put into effect after 9/11 - have they done away with it?



Long gone.

Great TR!!! the reading was pretty good I must say! And i'm glad you enjoyed DL.
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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:34 am

Hi P.,

another nice report. Good to hear you were upgraded, but the catering is pretty poor in First Class on that flight. As for Delta in general, I have never had a bad flight on them. I just still don't like the fact that they eliminated Northwest and its outstanding livery.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I’ve done two MD-88 flights with IB, but still wouldn’t mind another one. Some two months later however DL took the carrot away and I noticed the flight was now on a 737-800, probably the most boring plane model out there, yikes!

The most boring plane? I'd say the A320 is even more boring.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I wonder why this display is sorted chronologically when the norm here is to do it alphabetically:

That's what I have wondered about, too. Those displays are particularly nice at ATL or other large gateways.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
During the flight there are frequent beverage runs - the FAs ask each (awake) passenger individually about our drink choices and then deliver those one at a time which adds a bit of classiness to the service:

Cranberry juice?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Another Ginger Ale test is performed - not sure what the brand is but it was quite mediocre:

No Schweppes Dry Ginger Ale...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Haha, I like this:

I remember that jetBlue had some funny PTV ads back in 2007. I'm wondering if B6 also showed the "Song Sung Blue" slogan on the PTVs some years ago.  


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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Sat Jul 07, 2012 10:30 am

Hi there interesting report . Nice to see a DL one. The DL Club doesnt look too bad your typical US carrier affair. The F Class US Domestic experience is certainly not anything to write home about except for the seat. They could have offered a small cold meal for that flight length.


Nice pics of the Aviation museum. Those home made banners are amusing.

I have to say that Washington Metro station is quite nice . Im not bothered by the dim lighting you are not really going to spend alot of time there.

Anyway looking forward to the next part.

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Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:53 pm

Made a great read while waiting for a delayed flight - thanks P!
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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:33 pm

Hi FF,

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
She says that things are looking good for me, which I’m delighted to hear!

Congratulations on the FLL to ATL upgrade! Always makes the trip a bit nicer.

Economy plus sounds nice too. I was planning to sample that during my last trip over that way a couple of months ago, but wound up getting upgraded to F instead (which I was not complaining about).

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Since T is the furthest one from E I decide to wait for the train -

Yea, I like the general layout of things there. You can tell when they designed it they had functionality in mind - including getting connecting passengers to their flights. Like in your case, though you came in to the E gates, pretty much at one end of the airport (though there are now F gates beyond those), and left from the T gates, pretty much at the other end, a little walking in the E area and a fairly simple shuttle ride (is it called the PlaneTrain at ATL?) is all it takes to make the connection.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
had it been the next one I’d just walked it instead.

On the way back from my last trip to Atlanta I had a flight from ATL to DUS. After checking in I had a little extra time so walked from the checkin area to the E gates instead of taking the train. It was interesting - there was a little art work to see along the way - and also good to get in a little walking time before preparing to sit on a flight for the next several hours.  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Whoa, carpeting inside the train - what the hell were they thinking:

Carpeting seems to be somewhat of a recurring theme for you on this trip!   

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Haha, I like this:

Hehe, and from recent experience, I can tell you that it is true.  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Oh yes, you are in Washington:

Hehe, so did you buy a shirt then?

Those are some nice destination photos there of D.C. by the way.

D.
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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:43 am

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

This E concourse looks quite nice, way better than the tired FLL terminal:

E was the International Concourse before F was built, and it was built for the '96 Olympics. My first flight to Europe on BA (to LGW!) was out of that terminal in '99. Concourses A/B/C/D are pretty bad by your standards, low ceilings, lots of bad lighting, and awful restaurants. D is especially horrific as ATL chose to narrow the concourse, as this was the concourse where airlines other than Delta flew from (even UA/AA before T was built). Concourse D doesn't even have a food/mall court.

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Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
LOL 2:

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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:24 pm

Great report! Appreciate the efforts and details. Good choice to go to Washington, a great city indeed! Too bad you didn't get a river visual approach.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
It covers my first encounter with Delta with the flights from Fort Lauderdale to Washington D.C. via Atlanta (what else?).

When you die, you connect trough Atlanta to go to heaven is what they, right?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
and thankfully being Skyteam Gold I could reserve seats on the so called “Economy Comfort” section in the front of the Y cabin - a couple of rows with additional legroom

For free? Good to know, as I should be Skyteam Gold next time I'm flying DL.
 
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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:42 pm

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Another Ginger Ale test is performed - not sure what the brand is but it was quite mediocre:
Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 21):
No Schweppes Dry Ginger Ale...

DL caters Canada Dry as their ginger ale of choice on domestic flights.
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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:30 pm

Another nice report Petteri! Delta looked pretty good. Nice that you got upgraded, although shame about the change to a 738.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I decided I’d head to D.C. - I’ve heard plenty of good things about the place

Good choice

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
After the usual morning stuff and cursing a couple of times the fact that I decided to do this trip carry on only (somehow during a trip your stuff seems to evolve to use up much more space than what it did when you left home, neatly packed and all...)

I always find I need more than I think can fit into a hang bag

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The drive is so short in fact that the needle is still showing F so no need to spend any money on gas with this car!

The last time I brought a car back to LHR, I mamaged to get away with a 40 mile drive and it still showed full!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I don’t understand why couldn’t they have the machines running 24H

Kind of defeats the point of having those machines if you have to wait until there are staff around

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

I thought that Delta was a bit more lax with their lounge access rules and offered it to Skyteam Gold members but this turns out not to be the case - you still need a same day international (presumably Skyteam) flight.

Not as good as OW then. With a BA SIlver you can use the US lounge on a domestic ticket...AA eqiv can't though

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
This is actually quite a nice feature - DL gives you 15 minutes free which is enough to download your emails and other reading material for the flight

Nice perk

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The snack basket is full of your usual junk food - but at least they have bananas there so for the second pass I opt for one:

Urgh, not impressed by not having a proper meal served (espcially as lot of F pax don't get lounge access)

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Sadly Mulder & Scully had the weekend off.

Ah, glad you ticked this one off as well. I paid homage to their office when I was in DC too!
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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:37 am

Hi Petteri

Great report, thanks for sharing. Delta is indeed one of the better US domestic carriers. I do miss it since jumping to Star.
Great to see you went into the International concourse in ATL, one of the best (excluding the new one).
Nice too see the upgrade fairy did it's work pretty well. Look forward to the next

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Anderson, SC - that sounds remotely familiar:

Haah, it sure does

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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:00 pm

Hi P.,

as usual a great report here. Very interesting to follow your American tour. And congrats of course for your 150th airline, well done. Looks like you had two nice flights with Delta, quite good service, even though a proper meal would have been nice for sure when flying up front.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Another early start this morning, getting up before half past three (that’s AM, in the case you are wondering), a bit earlier than my alarm would’ve gone off.

Sometimes a solid jet-lag can be advantageous   ...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
and the guy laughs at me when I ask whether it is possible to *walk* over to T2

Never ever ask anybody in America about walking distances. In a country where everybody takes the car even to get the mail from their own mailbox they never get it right   ...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
The MD-88 to Covington at the next gate:

Nice plane, a shame that you missed it, but then another 757 is always nice as well.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Anyway the captain also says that we are landing on the 01 towards the north so no Potomac approach for me, bummer!

Too bad that you missed the Potomac approach, but judging from your pictures this approach was quite interesting as well.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Quite impressive architecture,

Wow, that indeed looks awesome.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Finally a word about the Washington Metro.

I used this Metro once some 20 years ago on my first trip to the US and back then it was actually rather new and very nice to ride on. They were quite proud of it back then, saying it was the most modern public transport system in the US and so on. Sad to see that they let it deteriorate so much.

Anyway some very nice pictures from Washington. On my two visits there it was both times raining cats and dogs so I couldn't really enjoy it, but spent a lot of time in the Air&Space museum of course.

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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:13 pm

A great TR! You took amazing pictures-I especially liked the spotting pics on the Potomac River. Just curious, what camera did you use?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
This is actually quite a nice feature - DL gives you 15 minutes free which is enough to download your emails and other reading material for the flight, so it is not really necessarily to pay money for an extended connection at least on a flight of this length.

15 free minutes sounds like a good deal.How much is it to continue using it?


I am always impressed with Delta. They always seem to have great service. I am looking forward to flying them this August!

Keep the great reports coming!

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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:12 am

Hi guys, good to see more comments, thank you very much!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 17):
Sounds promising! SFO is much closer or perhaps you will fly by here as well ?

Well, it's just an idea, of which I throw a lot around. Don't hold your breath yet  .

Quoting The777Man (Reply 17):
Forgot to mention that Delta's Economy comfort is taking after United's Economy Plus; both are regular seats with more legroom.

I thought United had done away with their Eco Plus rows? Or are they introducing it to all the ex-Continental planes as well? AA's MRTC back in the days was a great concept, shame it had to go.

Quoting swedenflyer (Reply 18):
Except for one occasion, I've always gotten on an MD88 for a DCA-ATL flight. Nowadays, that's the only flight I usually take.  

Just my luck I guess!

Quoting swedenflyer (Reply 18):
No problems with security there?
You can do the spotting without going into the actual pier.

Yeah, I know. But in many places the act of spotting, watching planes with binoculars, writing down registrations and taking photos is considered to be a suspicious activity and often arouses the interest of rent-a-cops and even real pay-a-cops.

Quoting swedenflyer (Reply 18):
And one question. Were you there for the derecho storm, and if so, did you lose power at your hotel?

No, luckily that came after my visit.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 19):
Seriously a cockroach in the civilised world? I thought those only existed in 3rd world countries.

Come on, cockroaches thrive anywhere where it is warm and humid, Florida doing very well on both fronts. One particular hotel in KUL was quite notorious for cockroaches, I think I must've killed a few dozen during my stay there. I also shocked a bunch of Swedish tourists in a restaurant in Barcelona once by crushing the biggest cockroach I've ever seen in front of their table  .

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 19):
What's so fun about being nude anyway?

Hey, it is your natural outfit! So free and careless.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 19):
For the 3rd time Petteri, there's no such thing as "Skyteam Gold" It's called Skyteam Elite Plus!

Jonas, always so articulated and correct about matters of status.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 19):
But again *G doesn't get you upgraded to First.

Well it can.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 19):
Why does he get to sit at "his" desk all day? Subtitles doesn't seem to make much sense.

Things taken out of context rarely do. Look at youtube, you'll probably find the whole video there anyway.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 19):
Wait a minute, that looks just like Whisteria Lane! I bet that's the site where they shot the series. In case you ever watched Desperate Housewives.  

I've seen half an episode once and that's enough. But this is standard American suburbia, there are millions of houses like this all around the vast country!

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 19):
That composition couldn't keep me from laughing. Good job "Sir"!

What the heck are you talking about?

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 19):
The Penis humor continues even here! Very funny 

What penis humor? I think you are overreacting a bit.

Quoting LH4116 (Reply 19):
Seriously? I remember watching a show on TV a few years ago praising the Washington DC metro for being one of the best and most beautiful metro networks on the planet, along with the Moscow one.

Well the stations aren't that bad if they were properly lit and maintained, the architecture is quite okay and I especially like the way the stations where two lines cross look.

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 20):
On morning flights, there's also usually little pre-packaged muffins. Did they have those as well?

Hmm, I don't remember seeing any, but it doesn't meen there weren't any!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 21):
I just still don't like the fact that they eliminated Northwest and its outstanding livery.

Oh yes, couldn't agree more here.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 21):
The most boring plane? I'd say the A320 is even more boring.


It is almost on par, but in my mind the 738 associates with Ryanair (and to a lesser degree) Norwegian, which makes it more boring and adds that low cost feel to it!

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 21):
Cranberry juice?

Cran-apple, yes.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 22):
They could have offered a small cold meal for that flight length.

Yeah, but then again the departure time being 5.45 most of the passengers opted to sleep anyway and its a bit too early for a breakfast service.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 22):
Im not bothered by the dim lighting you are not really going to spend alot of time there.

I know you like dark and secluded places for your clandestine activities!  
Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 23):
Made a great read while waiting for a delayed flight - thanks P!

Glad to be of assistance in passing your time.

Quoting dkdaviator (Reply 24):
I was planning to sample that during my last trip over that way a couple of months ago, but wound up getting upgraded to F instead (which I was not complaining about).

You could've always refused?  
Quoting dkdaviator (Reply 24):
Hehe, so did you buy a shirt then?

Naah, neither of these guys is exactly my favorite. Romney would be okay but out of principle I can't vouch for religious fundamentalists.

Quoting jcs17 (Reply 25):
Concourses A/B/C/D are pretty bad by your standards, low ceilings, lots of bad lighting, and awful restaurants.

Ok, looks like I got very lucky by my pick of concourses then!

Quoting jcs17 (Reply 25):
D is especially horrific as ATL chose to narrow the concourse, as this was the concourse where airlines other than Delta flew

Hah, nothing like giving the hometown airline and their biggest customer the upper hand!

Quoting jcs17 (Reply 25):
Obamacare? Iran? More taxes? Circumcision?!? Welcome to America.

Quite amusing actually.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 26):
When you die, you connect trough Atlanta to go to heaven is what they, right?

The folks in Texas say the same about DFW.

Quoting roberts87 (Reply 26):
For free? Good to know, as I should be Skyteam Gold next time I'm flying DL.

Yes, free as in "free beer".

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 28):
The last time I brought a car back to LHR, I mamaged to get away with a 40 mile drive and it still showed full!

No chance for that kind of MPG with an American car I guess!

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 29):
Delta is indeed one of the better US domestic carriers. I do miss it since jumping to Star.

Yeah, I was kinda surprised actually. Always thought they were quite mediocre.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 30):
And congrats of course for your 150th airline, well done.

Thanks. Here's to the next 150!

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 30):
Too bad that you missed the Potomac approach, but judging from your pictures this approach was quite interesting as well.

Yes, pretty views of Alexandria on my side.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 30):
I used this Metro once some 20 years ago on my first trip to the US and back then it was actually rather new and very nice to ride on. They were quite proud of it back then, saying it was the most modern public transport system in the US and so on. Sad to see that they let it deteriorate so much.

Well I think they just built it 20 years ago and then left it at that. It would be an okay system if they gave it a bit TLC (read: money) but this is the way it goes.

Quoting CaptainRed (Reply 30):
On my two visits there it was both times raining cats and dogs so I couldn't really enjoy it,

The weather there seems to be kinda interesting, as I mentioned the next week it got to over 35 degrees and a friend of mine was there this week and mentioned the mercury hitting a record 42 degrees! And yes, these are on the Celcius scale!

Quoting N172DM (Reply 31):
You took amazing pictures-I especially liked the spotting pics on the Potomac River. Just curious, what camera did you use?

Thanks. I have a Panasonic Lumix DMC-TZ20 compact, a pretty amazing camera apart from the fact that the teleobjective has a tendency to gather crap inside it, hence the black spots on my photos.

Quoting N172DM (Reply 31):
15 free minutes sounds like a good deal.How much is it to continue using it?

There are many different pricing plans, depending on how frequently you fly, check here:

http://www.delta.com/traveling_check...flight_services/products/wi-fi.jsp
 
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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:25 am

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 32):
I thought United had done away with their Eco Plus rows? Or are they introducing it to all the ex-Continental planes as well?

UA is expanding it to the ex-CO fleet. Probably at least half the ex-CO fleet done already. UA gives access to Premier members and perhaps also Star Gold and/or silver as well. Other can purchase access so it is a big money maker for UA.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 32):
AA's MRTC back in the days was a great concept, shame it had to go.

TWA used to have Comfort Class when I worked there in 1993/94 which was something similar but not sure how long it lasted with them.

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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:00 pm

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 32):
Yeah, I was kinda surprised actually. Always thought they were quite mediocre.

Service at DL was always just "okay" (always had great cabin crew) bre BK but really went down the toilet RIGHT before BK..like around the time they closed DFW. Food on most flights went away in F (ATL-SJU went down to just a snack service although STT JUST made the threshold for miles/flight time; just an idea of how bad it got as far as meal requirements) they took away blankets in Y. Took away silverware and linen in F on domestic flights, etc. etc.

Since the turn-around began about 4 years ago, meals are back on all flights over 900 miles (ATL-FLL falls short, that's why you didn't get any food) even on the large RJs. Real sivlerware and linen is back on domestic F. Blankets are back in Y. They even serve a meal (well free snack sanwitch and cookie) in Y on all flights ex JFK-SJU/STI/PUJ/PAP.

Things have gotten MUCH better.
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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:24 pm

Hello P!

Great tripreport again and probably my favourite of your US reports so far, due to all the DC pics. Washington DC is a place I have long wanted to visit, and even though I accidentally landed there last fall I still wish to do a proper visit, of course.  
It sure seems like you had a great time there and also a couple of nice flights with Delta.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
the flight was now on a 737-800, probably the most boring plane model out there, yikes!

Agreed. and also a popular machine when it comes to LCC's, so a lot of bad karma when it comes to comfort.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Next I head to Delta’s Skyclub:

What a dull entrance! The interior isn't great looking either but at least the food offerings seems decent, as my understanding is you can't really expect much of a domestic US lounge when it comes to food and drinks.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I ask the gate agent about my upgrade - at the same time he scans my boarding pass, the machine beeps and he hands me a new boarding pass for seat 3B - “I guess that’s your upgrade right there!”. Hey, Delta is definitely trying hard to impress me and win me over!

Definitely a perk I'd love to see airlines in Europe to have more of too!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I make my way to the baggage belt, passing the famous departure hall on the way:

Impressive, looks nice and grand. But then again, I imagine that most of DC looks grand and all that?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):

For me this was the perfect hotel, no real complaints.

What a weird hotel!

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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:21 pm

Nice report. Being born and raised in DC, it is nice to see a report on it.

Just FYI, the earthquake only happened the past August. The National Cathedral was pretty damaged - I went to high school there. It doesn't look like you made it the Cathedral, but it is by far the prettiest place in all of Washington, so consider visiting next time. And the views of the city from it are incredible.

Metro stations are always dimly late - it is not a lack of funding but part of the design. Granted, they could use a LOT of money right now with the Silver Line project and the horrible fares.
 
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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:55 pm

Oh yes, this another well written report is makin more and more eager to wait for my upcoming Washington DC experience. Well, only 8.5 months left to wait 
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Breakfast:

Well, doesn't look very inviting, to be honest.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Whoa, carpeting inside the train - what the hell were they thinking:

That they are in the USA?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
Oh yes, this is the notorious Watergate office complex:

By the water - now I finally get the name 
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I’d rather not think yet of the word ‘Tokyo’...

Hahah  It sure will be interesting!

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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:18 am

Excellent continuation FF, nice read.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
first flight of the day at OMG o’clock
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
getting up before half past three (that’s AM

Ouch. Nice turn of phrase though - I've used "stupid o'clock" before  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
she’ll make a one time exception (yeah right, I bet she has done these a lot during the years...)

It's not like you'll be back next week to do the same again!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
There’s already a mini bottle of water in the seat pocket, very much appreciated:

Ah Dasani, the brand that died a quick death in the UK when it was revealed that Coca-Cola UK Ltd. were bottling tap water and selling it...

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
but it turns out three passes with the snack basket it all we get.

Shame, will all the other perks up front, some kind of meal service would have been expected.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
...and if not maybe I’ll go here then:

Wasn't it a bit early for a beer, even for you?  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):
passing the famous departure hall on the way:

I'd love to see that, I didn't get a chance on my only trip to DC some years ago.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Reply 1):

Then it is time to head across the walkway to the metro:

I was actually impressed with the Metro. I guess things have gone downhill since 2003. But even then they had contactless smartcard payment facilities, like Oyster - you had to give an address in the US though, fortunately I have a cousin in California  

Thanks again for the enjoyable read!

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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:02 pm

Hi guys, lovely to see more comments, thank you. Sorry for the belated reply, I've been insanely busy and on the road for a long time...

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 34):
but really went down the toilet RIGHT before BK..like around the time they closed DFW. Food on most flights went away in F

Oh, that sounds *really* bad! Cutting to the bone.

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 34):
Since the turn-around began about 4 years ago, meals are back on all flights over 900 miles (ATL-FLL falls short, that's why you didn't get any food) even on the large RJs.

Interesting to learn this, thanks!

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 34):
Things have gotten MUCH better.

So it seems. Hopefully they will continue to improve or at least stay the same way.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 35):
Great tripreport again and probably my favourite of your US reports so far, due to all the DC pics.

Glad you liked it.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 35):
Washington DC is a place I have long wanted to visit, and even though I accidentally landed there last fall I still wish to do a proper visit, of course.

Yes, that doesn't count as such. Heck you landed in Virginia and probably didn't even pass the D.C. territory  .

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 35):
Agreed. and also a popular machine when it comes to LCC's, so a lot of bad karma when it comes to comfort.

Yes, this is part of its boring imago for me.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 35):
is you can't really expect much of a domestic US lounge when it comes to food and drinks.

True.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 35):
Definitely a perk I'd love to see airlines in Europe to have more of too!

Well it is a double edged sword. Giving out something for free makes people far less reluctant to pay for it. Thus people in the US tend to buy F tickets far less than J tickets in Europe, simply for the reason that they have a reasonable chance of being upgraded if they have some status - and the more status they have the more chance for upgrade they have. This has the negative effect of reducing the service levels, if most of the passengers flying up front didn't pay for it, there's no incentive for the airline to spend lots of money in fancy service standards. Just a glorified seat and some free snacks and alcohol... That's why domestic F is so different to European J.

CSA used to do this for OK Plus elites years ago, but they've stopped it now.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 35):
Impressive, looks nice and grand. But then again, I imagine that most of DC looks grand and all that?

Yes, a lot of the city centre was built that way.

Quoting KLM777300ER (Reply 36):
Just FYI, the earthquake only happened the past August.

Oh, thanks for this info. I'm bad with this kind of details, I'm sure it was mentioned in the poster about the closure but I couldn't remember it.

Quoting KLM777300ER (Reply 36):
It doesn't look like you made it the Cathedral, but it is by far the prettiest place in all of Washington, so consider visiting next time. And the views of the city from it are incredible.

Yes, something for the next visit. I didn't want to feel too rushed.

Quoting signol (Reply 38):
Ouch. Nice turn of phrase though - I've used "stupid o'clock" before  

You are free to borrow it, after all I borrowed it from somewhere else.

Quoting signol (Reply 38):
Ah Dasani, the brand that died a quick death in the UK when it was revealed that Coca-Cola UK Ltd. were bottling tap water and selling it...

Yes, they make it the same way in the US - "Reverse Osmosis" which means purifying tap water a bit. But there it at least used to be the number 1 bottled water for quite some time, all thanks to ingenious marketing. Quite sad actually, but it shows people will buy anything if you know how to market it to them! I'm imagining it must be carrying the highest profit margins for Coca-Cola as well - the production is simple, cheap and the only thing you need is water.

Quoting signol (Reply 38):
Wasn't it a bit early for a beer, even for you?  

Well yes. I was thinking of the scenario where I had to wait for multiple hours. Although I'd probably tried to talk my way to a Delta Club then.

Quoting signol (Reply 38):
But even then they had contactless smartcard payment facilities, like Oyster

Oh, very interesting. So they were quite the pioneers back then.
 
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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:43 pm

P, took me a while but finally got around to it, nice report BTW  
Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
T2 looks just quite depressing at this early hour - bright, fluorescent lights, low ceilings and the omnipresent carpeting.

- Looks typical of many US airports.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
While waiting I squash a cockroach on the floor much to the horror of the Californian lady in front of me - welcome to Florida - I also got bitten by some fire ants in my hotel room the previous night!

- Hmm, crummy hotel then?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Soon an unnaturally chirpy (for this hour) woman shows up and proceeds to turn on the self service kiosks bolted to the check in desks and asks us to check ourselves in. This is another thing I don’t really understand - many carriers on most big American airports have these kind of things - you are supposed to check yourself in and are only allowed to talk to an agent in person if the machine spits out a special card saying so. Well that would still be okay, but I don’t understand why couldn’t they have the machines running 24H - you still need to queue which seems to be a bit pointless to me especially since I’m not planning to drop any luggage off and have already done OLCI - I just need my (flimsy) pieces of paper to be set

- You have a good point, what use is OLCI and self service machines if you have to wait for the staff?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I thought that Delta was a bit more lax with their lounge access rules and offered it to Skyteam Gold members but this turns out not to be the case - you still need a same day international (presumably Skyteam) flight.

- The US are still behind with things like lounge access.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
I guess again I expected something a bit more in First class for this flight with a scheduled block time of 1h45mins - a sandwich or a breakfast bagel or something like that, but it turns out three passes with the snack basket it all we get. I start with some peanuts.

- It's pretty poor really, no it's very poor, you get so much more anywhere else in the world on a full service carrier.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Must-have-a-717-in-a-report:

- Not difficult @ ATL!

Cheers

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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:58 am

Hi P,

I'm only a month behind in reading this one...eek!

Good to see you got that upgrade on the first leg, although I would have been rather disappointed with just a snack basket on a flight of that length.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Driving at this hour is an absolute delight as I think I see a grand total of two cars during the short drive back to the airport and I think both of those are heading to the 24H IHOP that’s halfway down the road to the airport -

An empty motorway, that's the one good thing about working an early shift at the weekend!

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Followed by the scary, very scary Deltalina in the safety video

Oh my, are you sure that's a safety video and not some advert for a cosmetic surgeon? How many facelifts has she had?

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
find it funny that Aldeasa operates a duty free store here as well:

Very unusual, never seen one outside of Espana.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
Parking next to one of these regional jets with all the whistles:

What a cutie.

Quoting FlyingFinn76 (Thread starter):
LOL 2:

They could do with some of those posters here in CH, it's a rather hotly debated topic at the moment.

Enjoyed your pics of DC too.

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RE: US Trip 2012 Part 4: DC: Delta Comfort FLL-ATL-DCA

Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:03 pm

Hi,

Nice TR. Enjoyed the picture of my hometown for the past 17 years  

The 30 minutes rule for DCA was lifted at the end of 2002 or beginning of 2003.

Also, the monument is closed because of the earthquake that happened on August 16 2011 (last year), not years ago.

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