thaia345
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Cathay Pacific All New Longhaul Business Class

Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:40 am

This flight covers the last segment of my ultra long haul journey, I posted this last leg from Hong Kong to Jakarta separately as it features CX all new long haul J product on the A333. The first part of the trip report on all the long haul flights can be found here:

ULH Cathay Pacific Suites, Garuda J & Iberia J (by thaia345 Jul 11 2012 in Trip Reports)


Date: 06 April 2012
Route: Hong Kong (HKG) - Jakarta (CGK)
Flight: Cathay Pacific CX777
ETD: 0920
ETA: 1320
Seat: 14A (Business Class)
Aircraft: A330-300
Flight time: 4hrs 25mins
Registration: B-LAN
1st Flight: 24 Feb 2012

Preflight
After arrival from MXP, we did some shopping in duty free before taking a nice hot shower in the Pier First Class Lounge. After that we headed straight to the gate. And to my surprise, it’s a new bird with new J seats!


Inflight
Once onboard it was a nice surprise that this A333 has the new J seats equipped. This seat is definitely a huge leap forward from the herringbone design. With my big size I am comfortable and find it airy and spacious.

Crossroads at a very busy HKIA

Although SQ's J seat are much wider, this CX new J seat is not far behind SQ's. J and Y are about 50% full. Service was quick, efficient and polite as usual.
After take off, its off to the lavatory for more pics

More cabin pics

Safety Card

Mealtime

Overall it was a great flight in CX’s new J, and it was a nice surprise for me to get on this bird on the last short haul leg home. Thank you CX.

Thanks for reading guys, below are my TR from newest to oldest:

ULH Cathay Pacific Suites, Garuda J & Iberia J (by thaia345 Jul 11 2012 in Trip Reports)
ULH Cathay Pacific Suites, Garuda J & Iberia J (by thaia345 Jul 11 2012 in Trip Reports)
Cathay Pacific Suites - Ultra Long Haul HKG-JFK (by thaia345 Mar 18 2012 in Trip Reports)
Thai Royal First Class & Legacy 600 Biz Jet (by thaia345 Mar 12 2012 in Trip Reports)
The Way To Fly:CX Suites & GA J Part 2 (by thaia345 Jan 21 2012 in Trip Reports)
The Way To Fly:CX/F,GA/J,Biz Jets Part 1 (by thaia345 Jan 18 2012 in Trip Reports)
Biz Jet Photo Report:Challenger 850 & 605 (by thaia345 Jan 15 2012 in Trip Reports)
GA & SA In Jakarta To Perth & Cape Town (by thaia345 Jan 5 2012 in Trip Reports)
Thai Suites/F & 4 Days In A Citation Bravo (by thaia345 Nov 13 2011 in Trip Reports)
Biz Jet Report: Citation XLS+ Jakarta-Surabaya (by thaia345 Oct 25 2011 in Trip Reports)
Thai Airways F Class: Always Satisfied (by thaia345 Oct 16 2011 in Trip Reports)
The Ultimate Indulgence Pt 3: Flying Home (by thaia345 Sep 25 2011 in Trip Reports)
The Ultimate Indulgence Pt 2: Private Jets (by thaia345 Sep 22 2011 in Trip Reports)
The Ultimate Indulgence Pt 1: CX/F & GA/J (by thaia345 Sep 19 2011 in Trip Reports)
Lufthansa Private Jet & Thai Airways Suites (by thaia345 Aug 22 2011 in Trip Reports)
Cathay Pacific Suites/J & DragonAir F/J (by thaia345 Aug 21 2011 in Trip Reports)
Japan With TG's B744 In F & A345 In J (by thaia345 Jul 17 2011 in Trip Reports)
Malaysia Airlines All New A333 In J (by thaia345 Jun 14 2011 in Trip Reports)
Malaysia Airlines First Class To Syd (by thaia345 Jun 12 2011 in Trip Reports)
Malaysia Airlines All New B738 In J (by thaia345 May 19 2011 in Trip Reports)
Suite Dreams - Thai Royal First B773ER & B744 (by thaia345 Apr 3 2011 in Trip Reports)
Thai A340-600: Royal First Class (by thaia345 Apr 2 2011 in Trip Reports)
Garuda's New B738 In J With MH A333/772ER (by thaia345 Mar 7 2011 in Trip Reports)
Malaysia B772ER & All Nippon B772/3 Business Class (by thaia345 Mar 5 2011 in Trip Reports)
Malaysia AIrlines A333 Business Class (Pics) (by thaia345 Mar 2 2011 in Trip Reports)
Cathay Pacific Regional Business Class (Pics) (by thaia345 Mar 2 2011 in Trip Reports)
Thai Airways Suites - Part II (by thaia345 Oct 31 2010 in Trip Reports)
Thai Airways Suites - 1st Trip Report - Part I (by thaia345 Oct 28 2010 in Trip Reports)
Suites By Cathay Pacific (B773ER) Part II (by thaia345 Oct 27 2010 in Trip Reports)
Suites By Cathay Pacific (B773ER) Part I (by thaia345 Oct 26 2010 in Trip Reports)
Flying The Royal First Class On Thai (by thaia345 Mar 31 2010 in Trip Reports)
First Class Suites On Cathay Pacific - Part II (by thaia345 Mar 30 2010 in Trip Reports)
First Class Suites On Cathay Pacific-Part I (by thaia345 Mar 29 2010 in Trip Reports)
M'sia Airlines Business Class CGK-HKG Return (by thaia345 Feb 23 2010 in Trip Reports)
Another TG Royal First Class Experience (Pics) (by ThaiA345 Jan 15 2010 in Trip Reports)
KLM B773ER - The New World Business Class (by ThaiA345 Oct 10 2009 in Trip Reports)
Garuda's "new" B737-800 - A Short Trip To SUB (by ThaiA345 Aug 10 2009 in Trip Reports)
Royal First Class/J On TG (FRA,BCN,MXP) Part II (by ThaiA345 Aug 6 2009 in Trip Reports)
Royal First Class On TG(FRA, BCN,MXP) & Back! (by ThaiA345 Aug 3 2009 in Trip Reports)
CX New J Class On A333 And F, With J On KA (by ThaiA345 Jul 16 2009 in Trip Reports)
Jakarta-Lanzarote! TG In F MH In J AB In Y (PICS) (by ThaiA345 Apr 18 2009 in Trip Reports)
Malaysian Hospitality To Perth (MH In J) (by ThaiA345 Apr 11 2009 in Trip Reports)
Yokoso Japan! MH/NH In J (many Pics) (by ThaiA345 Apr 4 2009 in Trip Reports)
Biz Class: Malaysian Hospitality KUL-PER-KUL Pics (by ThaiA345 Jan 13 2009 in Trip Reports)
Thai 1st Class On The B744 & A346 (by ThaiA345 Dec 18 2008 in Trip Reports)
Business Class, QF, MH, KL: Going Home Part 2/2 (by ThaiA345 Nov 7 2008 in Trip Reports)
Malaysia Airlines 1st Class: Down Under Part 1/2 (by ThaiA345 Nov 6 2008 in Trip Reports)
Garuda Business Class - CGK-SUBvv (Pics) (by ThaiA345 Aug 10 2008 in Trip Reports)
Malaysian Business Class, CGK-KIX (by ThaiA345 Aug 5 2008 in Trip Reports)
Long Haul! Jakarta-Seville TG-F, MH/LH-J (Pics) (by ThaiA345 Jul 25 2008 in Trip Reports)
Incredible India! CGK-DEL With MH In J (PICS) (by ThaiA345 Jul 14 2008 in Trip Reports)
Germany From SE Asia: TG F, MH J, LH J (Pics) (by ThaiA345 Jun 30 2008 in Trip Reports)
Business Class: Garuda To Hongkong & Back (by ThaiA345 Apr 24 2008 in Trip Reports)
Bali On Garuda J Class B734 & B738 (Pics) (by ThaiA345 Mar 19 2008 in Trip Reports)
Garuda Domestic J Class, Jakarta-Palembangvv Pics (by ThaiA345 Mar 12 2008 in Trip Reports)
MH Is Malaysian Hospitality Pt II, Bak Fr PER In J (by ThaiA345 Mar 6 2008 in Trip Reports)
MH Is Malaysian Hospitality Pt I, J To PER (by ThaiA345 Feb 28 2008 in Trip Reports)
Garuda Domestic (Floods And Airport Closures!) (by ThaiA345 Feb 3 2008 in Trip Reports)
Biz Class:LAX-CGK W TG LA Express Part 2 (by ThaiA345 Feb 2 2008 in Trip Reports)
Biz Class:CGK To LAX W TG LA Express Part 1 (by ThaiA345 Jan 31 2008 in Trip Reports)
Garuda Business Class: To Semarang & Back! (Pics) (by ThaiA345 Dec 15 2007 in Trip Reports)
Garuda In Y: Jakarta-Surabaya (Pics) (by ThaiA345 Dec 9 2007 in Trip Reports)
Biz Class Battle: SQ,MH,TG,NH All In 1 Trip (by ThaiA345 Nov 19 2007 in Trip Reports)
Part II, Great China Trip In J & Y(tons Of Pics) (by ThaiA345 Oct 28 2007 in Trip Reports)
A Great China Trip! In Both J & Y (Lotsa Pics) (by ThaiA345 Oct 24 2007 in Trip Reports)
1st Class On TG A346/B744 MUC & FRA (PICS) (by ThaiA345 Sep 18 2007 in Trip Reports)
Down Under To Perth, TG & MH In J (by ThaiA345 Sep 3 2007 in Trip Reports)
B737-900ER! T.R, 1st Time Seen On A.Net! (by ThaiA345 Jul 10 2007 in Trip Reports)
Semarang-A Small Town In Java With GA In Y (by ThaiA345 Jun 14 2007 in Trip Reports)
Bali: A Trip To Paradise With GA In J (by ThaiA345 Jun 14 2007 in Trip Reports)
Mystical Morocco & Romantic Paris! TG,MH,AF (by ThaiA345 May 30 2007 in Trip Reports)
The Great China Trip With MH In J (by ThaiA345 May 1 2007 in Trip Reports)
Viva La Spain! TG In F/J, JK In Y, And MH In J (by ThaiA345 Apr 3 2007 in Trip Reports)
Another Inter-Indonesia Run By GA In J (by ThaiA345 Mar 6 2007 in Trip Reports)
Garuda In Y & C: CGK-SUBvv (by ThaiA345 Feb 26 2007 in Trip Reports)
MH/TG/OZ/AA In C: KL,Seoul,LA & Cabo! (by ThaiA345 Feb 26 2007 in Trip Reports)
1st Report! TG/MH/KL/EK Round The World In J (by ThaiA345 Jan 28 2007 in Trip Reports)
 
ZaphodB
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RE: Cathay Pacific All New Longhaul Business Class

Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:00 pm

I'm curious to know if you tried out the new seat in the full flat position, and if so did you find it comfortable?

I did JFK-HKG-KUL-HKG-JFK in June, the JFK-HKG and KUL-HKG legs were 'coffin class', while the HKG-JFK leg was new biz class. The difference in the ambience and storage with the new one is massive, and having a window seat that actually faces the window is a massive plus, but I found the coffin more comfortable in the sleeping position even though it is narrower.
 
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RE: Cathay Pacific All New Longhaul Business Class

Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:21 pm

Hi Thaia345

Thanks for adding the last part of your recent Euro trip. Always a pleasure to read your reports.

The new Cathay Business Class cabin looks excellent. There's an interesting trend for many of the larger carriers to further reduce the number of seats per row in Business Class, thereby offering a hard product that more closely resembles a First class product.

You seem to have a lot of privacy in the new seat.

Cheers,
William
 
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RE: Cathay Pacific All New Longhaul Business Class

Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:22 pm

Thanks for the report - always good to hear from our resident First Class reporter! The difference between the 2 seats is indeed incredible. I love the little touch of the headset having a neat compartment!

Saludos,
A.
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thaia345
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RE: Cathay Pacific All New Longhaul Business Class

Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:03 am

Quoting ZaphodB (Reply 1):
I'm curious to know if you tried out the new seat in the full flat position, and if so did you find it comfortable?
Quoting ZaphodB (Reply 1):
but I found the coffin more comfortable in the sleeping position even though it is narrower.

Actually did go full flat, and funny enough, I do agree with you the coffins were more comfortable in the full flat !

Quoting Knightsofmalta (Reply 2):
The new Cathay Business Class cabin looks excellent. There's an interesting trend for many of the larger carriers to further reduce the number of seats per row in Business Class, thereby offering a hard product that more closely resembles a First class product.

You seem to have a lot of privacy in the new seat.

Hi William, privacy wise is it really good, and the new seat also give a great sense of space, not only when you are in the seat, but the entire cabin itself.

[quote=abrelosojos,reply=3]The difference between the 2 seats is indeed incredible. I love the little touch of the headset having a neat compartment![/quote

Hi A, the little headrest compartment is really cool, but like I mentioned earlier to ZaphodB, the older herringbone ones were nicer to sleep in the full flat position, however, the new seats wins on all other areas. Actually the best sleep I ever had in J was on Air NZ's herringbone J seats, and also of course on SQ's Raffles Class on the B773Er and A380
 
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RE: Cathay Pacific All New Longhaul Business Class

Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:56 am

Nice to see the new C. I was about to book a seat on the MXP-HKG 77W flight with these seats until I found a deal with AZ for £71 return to NRT! They looks pretty good, a lot more spacious than the old style ones. What's up with the CPA flight number....no longer CX?
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RE: Cathay Pacific All New Longhaul Business Class

Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:45 pm

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 5):
What's up with the CPA flight number....no longer CX?

Maybe they thought CPA meaning cathay pacific airways sounds nicer hahahaha, but on all other handsets on other aircraft it has always been CX, only this one.....very wierd indeed.
 
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RE: Cathay Pacific All New Longhaul Business Class

Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:57 pm

Hi Thaia345,

Nice set of pictures, food pix are making me hungry!

Quoting thaia345 (Thread starter):
Once onboard it was a nice surprise that this A333 has the new J seats equipped. This seat is definitely a huge leap forward from the herringbone design

- This is a vast improvement over the old seats, I still wonder how they got it so wrong before.

Cheers

Mark
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RE: Cathay Pacific All New Longhaul Business Class

Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:09 pm

Quoting thaia345 (Reply 4):
the older herringbone ones were nicer to sleep in the full flat position

for me the issue with the new seat in the full flat position is that the footrest is a couple of inches lower than the seat or the (raised) legrest. In the coffin the footrest is the lined up with the rest of the seat in full flat mode. I slept like the dead  

Seems like that would be an easy mistake to rectify but hard to understand how or even why they made it.
 
thaia345
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RE: Cathay Pacific All New Longhaul Business Class

Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:01 pm

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 7):
This is a vast improvement over the old seats, I still wonder how they got it so wrong before.

Hi Mark, yes its a vast improvement indeed, but, the older seats were more comfortable to sleep in the full flat position though

Quoting ZaphodB (Reply 8):
for me the issue with the new seat in the full flat position is that the footrest is a couple of inches lower than the seat or the (raised) legrest

Actually for me I find the middle section a little too high, so its like the back rest is lower than the middle part too
 
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RE: Cathay Pacific All New Longhaul Business Class

Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:18 pm

Nice report looking forward to try it one day
 
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RE: Cathay Pacific All New Longhaul Business Class

Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:52 pm

Quoting ZaphodB (Reply 1):

I'm curious to know if you tried out the new seat in the full flat position, and if so did you find it comfortable?

I did JFK-HKG-KUL-HKG-JFK in June, the JFK-HKG and KUL-HKG legs were 'coffin class', while the HKG-JFK leg was new biz class. The difference in the ambience and storage with the new one is massive, and having a window seat that actually faces the window is a massive plus, but I found the coffin more comfortable in the sleeping position even though it is narrower.

You are kidding me right??   I am about to fly on the new CX biz class tomorrow from MXP-HKG and then from HKG-SIN. I liked the old herringbone seat, so never understood the complaints. However now I am a bit miffed to hear that the new seats are not as comfortable...Do you think putting a second duvet as a "mattress" will help? So the seat is not fully flat and has bumps or how is it less comfortable?

Quoting thaia345 (Reply 9):
Actually for me I find the middle section a little too high, so its like the back rest is lower than the middle part too

I am hoping a second duvet might do the trick to solve this. I still can't believe the seat is less comfortable to sleep in. Sleep is the most important thing with C class...Anyway will fly tomorrow on it and see how it is.  

Thanks for the great report! As usual it is another great one!!!

Cheers,
Nick
 
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RE: Cathay Pacific All New Longhaul Business Class

Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:56 pm

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 5):

Nice to see the new C. I was about to book a seat on the MXP-HKG 77W flight with these seats until I found a deal with AZ for £71 return to NRT!

71£ return to NRT??? in C class???
 
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RE: Cathay Pacific All New Longhaul Business Class

Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:25 pm

Quoting LAX888 (Reply 11):
I liked the old herringbone seat, so never understood the complaints

I think a lot of the complaints were about the look, and not specific to CX but to coffins in general.

I think the herringbone layout looks terrible ... like a cattle pen, even more so in the 1-1-1 layout on the 330/340 with the "wall" along the K-side aisle. The new layout looks and feels like a first class cabin, especially the mini-cabin behind F on the 77W. Utility wise it is pretty much faultless- there are a lot of great touches. I just didn't find it that comfortable to sleep on - not only compared to the coffins but also compared to CW on BA.
 
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RE: Cathay Pacific All New Longhaul Business Class

Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:28 am

Quoting ZaphodB (Reply 13):
I just didn't find it that comfortable to sleep on - not only compared to the coffins but also compared to CW on BA.

Somehow on any lie flats in J, i always find the main problem to be the padding on the cushions, I dont know why but I am just never comfortable on them. And why do they have to make the pillows so soft that they dont give any support to our head and neck
 
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RE: Cathay Pacific All New Longhaul Business Class

Sun Jul 22, 2012 4:22 pm

Hi

Great report, thanks for sharing.
The new longhaul Business class looks great. Better than the old herringbone seating.
CX's seat does look more advanced than the Delta and US Airways version of course  

Greetings
Marc
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