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Buffalo Airways *DC3*: JUN/11: YZF-YHY: Y Cabin

Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:38 pm

Feedback always appreciated.




I > Background:
As frequent readers of my reports know, I made an excursion to Canada in the middle of 2011. During that excursion, I was fortunate to take several flights and do trip reports on quite a few of them. Here is a recap:

1/ 9.04: First Air (129): YEG-YFB: 06/2011
2/ 7.99: WestJet (131): YYZ-YYC: 06/2011
3/ 7.55: Air Canada (132): YEG-LHR: 06/2011 – Executive First Cabin –
4/ 6.41: Air North (127): YEV-YEG: 06/2011
5/ 5.80: Canadian North (128): YEV-YVQ-YZF-YEG: 06/2011

Now, several (dreamlinerAL, debonair, kiramakora, etc.) were surprised that I had left the DC-3 of Buffalo Airways out of the routings. Well, the truth was that I thought I had misplaced the SD-Card and could not find the pictures of Buffalo until last weekend. Come on everyone, how could I fly to Yellowknife and not wish to fly the DC-3!

Anyways, so here is my delayed report of the Buffalo Airways flight on board an original DC-3 (not the ones with the new engines). This is the only scheduled commercial DC-3 in operation and Buffalo Airways flies them from Yellowknife to Hay River (YHY) 6 times a week. I believe this is the first report from Buffalo Airways and features the venerable DC3 – but then again, I suck at using the search function on A.Net.

II > Pre-Flight:

a) Before Airport:
Buffalo Airways is a family-run airline based in Hay River, Northwest Territories, Canada established in 1970 by Joe McBryan, also known as "Buffalo Joe". It operates scheduled passenger, scheduled cargo, charter passenger, charter cargo, firefighting and fuel services. Its main base is at Yellowknife Airport (YZF) with storage of some awesome aircraft at Red Deer. It was also the background to some TV shows that I had no idea about.

Buffalo Airways maintains a website (www.buffaloairways.com) but does not provide an online booking facility for its sole scheduled passenger service. You have to call in and reserve and they generously allow you to book when you actually get there.



b) At Airport:
Yellowknife is a small airport that is efficient enough to facilitate quick passenger traffic. However, it seemed a lot of flights are clustered around the same hour and I am sure that peak time is busy at the airport. Buffalo Airways does not fly from the airport – instead, it flies from its own hangar area which increases the exoticness of the flight. Upon arrival, you are greeted by a motley group of characters who seems to be regulars on the flight. A woman confirms your name on the list and allows you to hang out. You can of course do some shopping at the Buffalo Airways store, or sneak a peek through the hangar at the many exotic birds sitting still. When I introduced myself as an aviation enthusiast, I was graciously allowed in and given free access to take as many pictures as I wanted. How super cool!

Boarding involved one of the guys yelling in the waiting lounge to follow him to the aircraft. According to Buffalo policies, everyone starts off there and then goes on to work onboard, finally graduating to 1st Officer and then Captain. This guy “Mark” would later go on to be the inflight attendant for us. He is also a trainee pilot and hoping to soon be able to have the right seat.

As you walk onto the apron, a tremendous sense of history overcomes as you realize how incredibly lucky you are to be able to fly an aircraft that first entered service in 1936 (nearly 80 years!). Once you enter, you can immediately feel the odd sensation of walking “uphill” to your seat. Load factor was around 95%.

Airport - External:

(Yellowknife Airport: Buffalo Airways Hangar)

Check-in:

(Buffalo Airways Check-In Area)


Airport - Internal:

(Buffalo Airways Hangar Area)

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(Open Hangar always piqyes my interest and reveals special things …)

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Scenes of the tarmac:

(Sistership)


Lounge

NONE



Boarding:


(Gate Area)


III> In-Flight:

a) Service Schedule + Impressions:
Nothing distributed while on ground. Surprisingly (due to flight stage length and the fact that this is the only scheduled operation of the aircraft), we were served a snack and drink.

The highlight of the flight was of course to fly the DC3 and also visit one more obscure Canadian airport (Hay River).

b) Aircraft + Seats:
The main reason for the trip was of course to fly the DC3 - and what an experience it turned out to be. Like the surroundings it served, the DC3 was an exotic bird in an exotic land. The seats were actually comfortable enough with decent legroom. However, unlike the AN-24, and like the HS7, the DC3 did not provide any recline - now, I don't know how much of that was a factor of Buffalo’s modification versus that had already been the case. Does anyone know if the initial DC3’s had seat recline?

The aircraft seemed to be well maintained and I truly enjoyed having the cockpit door open throughout the flight. At one point, I asked if I could go in, and the flight attendant graciously allowed me to do so. I guess this airline gets requests like this all the time. Finally, unlike the Antonov or the HS7 experience, there were no bathrooms on the DC3 of Buffalo Airways. This was weird to me as I could have sworn the ones I flew on Sol de America in Venezuela had them. Again, can anyone please shed light? The entire experience felt like a completely different era - very hard to explain. Staring out of the window, I could only imagine what would have felt like being a pioneering traveler using these exotic machines to go to far away lands. Take a look at the pictures, and just hear the sound of the engine if you remain unconvinced.

Oh, an one more thing, the DC3 is an incredible gentle aircraft and I remain impressed with how much quieter than what I had anticipated it was.

Aircraft:
(Glorious DC3 @ YHY)

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Views from Aircraft:

NONE



General Seat Views + Seat Legroom

(Legroom)


(Around Seat)

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Seat Recline + Angle View:

(Recline)
NONE

(Angle view)


Cabin:


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(Bathroom)
NONE

(Around Aircraft)

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(Love those windows)


(Open cockpit door)


c) Meal + Beverage:
For a short flight on the airlines only scheduled service, I was not expecting much. Imagine my surprise when the attendant made an entire run with a cookie basket featuring several premium cookies and snacks. Additionally, there was a café service and water and soft drinks. Overall, rather impressive given the nature and duration of the service.

(Performing inflight service)


(Snacks on offer)


(Café and drinks also available)


d) Inflight Entertainment:
Unsurprisingly, Buffalo Airways had no in-flight magazine – and this being a DC3, no other IFE. I was however impressed by the generous amount of newspapers and magazines the airline carried on board featuring “Northern” content. Amazing how within Canada, the people in Yellowknife considered rest of Canada “Southern”. Guess everything in life is relative EH ☺?

(“In-flight magazines”, Boarding Passes, etc.: Just look at all the stuff I got from them)


e) Crew:
As mentioned, the same guy who had yelled the boarding announcement provided in-flight service. He was a pleasant chap and smiled during the entire duration of the flight. During boarding, the guy helped some with baggage storage, and took control of service delivery once we leveled off. Given that he was training to be a pilot, I was impressed that he did his entire service with dignity and kindness. It would put a lot of regular FA’s to shame! When asked to walk into the cockpit during the flight, he answered “no problem” and allowed us to spend as much time as we wanted, and taking as many pictures as we desired.

IV> Post-Flight:
YHY is a small airport and the only other action at this time was a First Air ATR heading back to YZF. We walked into the small airport after lingering outside for a few minutes taking some few final shots of the DC3 and soaking in “the beauty” one last time. Inside, it was one hall with check-in counters and the sole baggage claim carousel.

(Hay River Airport)
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V> Impressions + Scores:
Like many of my other reports on segments such as this, I did not fly Buffali Airways to see whether it was the NH/9W/SQ of the North. I took it to experience an exotic carrier and that took me to places I never knew existed. In this respect, Buffalo Airways did not disappoint. Just like on Ir Aero and Air North, it was an amazing experience that took me back to an electric era on a pioneering aircraft where IFE involved talking to your fellow passengers and observing the scenario out of the window. The DC3 is a beautiful aircraft - something primal about the noise, the incline, and just the thought that that were being part of something historic.

Service wise, it was definitely a whole lot better than my other similar experiences on Ir Aero or Air North. The people running Buffalo Airways are true aviation enthusiast and they recognize and encourage those of us to be passionate about the flying as well. Everyone I encountered knew they were part of something great, and the best manifestation of this was through “Mark” who not only allowed pictures but transitioned gracefully between his roles. So in the end, a truly memorable experience - but something remembered for the setting and the equipment. Just for this, a two-thumps up.



VI> Other Trip Reports:

PREMIUM:
9.27: JET AIRWAYS **FIRST** (110): LHR-BOM: 10/2010
9.27: THAI AIRWAYS **FIRST** (108): BKK-LHR: 07/2010
9.00: All Nippon: ANA (133): NRT-FUK-BOM: 12/2011

8.66: Brussels Airlines (93): FIH-BRU: 01/2010
8.64: Turkish Airlines (59): JFK-IST: 11/2008
8.63: Jet Airways (88): JFK-BRU: 10/2009
8.61: Air Canada (49): YYZ-SCL: 06/2008
8.54: Turkish Airlines (77): GRU-DKR-IST: 04/2009
8.36: Kingfisher (98): BOM-HKG: 01/2010
8.30: Jet Airways (74): KWI-BOM: 04/2009
8.23: United Airlines (72): SFO-SYD: 03/2009
8.11: Aeroflot (33): MOW-DEL: 09/2007
8.05: Air India (80): CCU-JFK: 06/2009
8.04: Korean Air (40): NRT-ICN: 10/2007
8.02: Delta Airlines (24): JFK-CDG: 08/2007
7.82: UNITED AIRLINES **FIRST** (110): SFO-ICN: 10/2010
7.82: Singapore Airlines (06): EWR-SIN: 09/2006
7.66: Sri Lankan (104): DEL-CMB: 07/2010
7.64: Royal Jordanian (91): AMM-YUL: 12/2009
7.61: China Southern (103): LOS-DXB: 04/2010
7.57: Pakistan Airlines (102): ORD-BCN: 06/2010
7.55: Air Canada (132): YEG-LHR: 06/2011
7.46: LAN (55): YYZ-JFK: 09/2008
7.38: AMERICAN AIRLINES **FIRST** (112): LHR-JFK: 10/2010
7.38: CATHAY PACIFIC **FIRST** (109): HKG-LHR: 10/2010
7.36: Turkish Airlines (134): IST-LAX: 10/2011
7.25: Iran Air (88): BOM-IKA: 12/2009
7.23: Air Pacific (120): NAN-APW-HNL: 01/2011
7.23: Virgin Atlantic (81): BOS-LHR: 07/2009
7.14: Swiss (52): SCL-GRU: 06/2008
7.11: Aer Lingus (105): MAD-IAD: 05/2010
7.11: Austrian (79): VIE-JFK: 06/2009
7.07: Privatair (84): BOM-FRA: 08/2009
7.02: Qatar (68): DOH-JFK: 01/2009
6.96: Etihad (61): JFK-AUH: 12/2008
6.93: Delta Airlines (18): SEA-JFK: 11/2006
6.88: Egypt Air (123): LHR-CAI: 03/2011
6.84: ConViasa (65): CCS-DAM: 01/2009
6.82: Air Burkina (106): BKO-OUA: 06/2010
6.81: Air Canada (17): ICN-YYZ: 10/2006
6.75: Afriqiyah + Libyan (113): CAI-TIP: 11/2010
6.70: KLM (32): EBB-AMS: 08/2007
6.52: Emirates (99): LHR-DXB: 02/2010
6.39: South African (97): EZE-JNB: 01/2010
6.36: Privatair (60): MUC-BOS: 12/2008
6.29: TAM Brasil (96): POA-EZE: 02/2010
6.25: Korean Air (45): NAN-ICN: 10/2007
6.21: Iberia (87): BOS-MAD: 10/2009
6.11: A SKY (107): OUA-COO: 06/2010
6.11: TAP Portugal (53): GRU-OPO: 06/2008
6.00: Gulf Air (75): BOM-BAH: 04/2009
5.88: African Express (89): DXB-NBO: 11/2009
5.75: Singapore Airlines (16): CCU-SIN: 10/2006
5.64: SATA Azores (101): BOS-PDL: 04/2010
5.64: NorthWest (46): ICN-NRT-SEA: 10/2007
5.54: Ethiopian Airlines (95): ADD-BOM: 01/2010
5.46: Icelandair (83): KEF-BOS: 08/2009
5.39: LOT (54): WAW-JFK: 06/2008
5.21: Egypt Air (73): CAI-IST: 02/2009
5.11: Tunisair (115): TUN-ORY: 12/2010
5.07: TACA (66): JFK-SAP: 01/2009
4.89: TAAG Angola (117): TMS-LAD: 12/2010
4.42: Air France: CDG-JNB (25): 08/2007

ECONOMY: Long + Medium:
9.26: Air India (48): JFK-DEL: 02/2008
9.04: First Air (129): YEG-YFB: 06/2011
8.74: Japan Air Lines (130): NRT-BOS: 04/2012 – INAUGURAL
7.99: WestJet (131): YYZ-YYC: 06/2011
7.38: Avianca (01): BOG-LIM: 07/2006
7.07: Sri Lankan (62): KWI-CMB: 12/2008
7.00: LAN (94): IPC-SCL: 01/2010
6.81: STP Airways/Euro Atlantic (116): LIS-TMS: 12/2010
6.74: Air Asia (136): VTE-KUL: 12/2011
6.67: Air Malta (124): MLA-FRA: 04/2011
6.63: Vladavia (126): KHV-PEK: 06/2011
6.41: Air North (127): YEV-YEG: 06/2011
6.41: Avianca (78): JFK-BOG: 05/2009
6.41: American Airlines (58): LHR-BOS: 11/2008
6.39: Condor (85): SEZ-FRA: 09/2009
6.26: Jet Blue (21): CUN-JFK: 02/2007
6.11: Caribbean Airlines (119): POS-FLL: 01/2011
6.06: Air Canada (04): YYZ-YVR: 09/2006
5.89: USA 3000 (19): PUJ-BDL: 01/2007
5.85: Spanair (69): MAD-LPA: 02/2009
5.80: Canadian North (128): YEV-YVQ-YZF-YEG: 06/2011
5.79: Air New Zealand (42): RAR-NAN: 10/2007
5.52: Aerolineas (86): USH-AEP: 10/2009
5.46: TAP Air Portugal (23): OSL-LIS: 05/2007
5.19: Air Europa (70): LPA-MAD: 02/2009
5.16: Iberia (71): MAD-BOS: 02/2009
5.11: Air China (82): FRA-PEK: 08/2009
4.59: IR Aero (125): IKT-VVO: 06/2011

ECONOMY: Short
8.56: Paramount Airways (38): BLR-MAA: 09/2007
8.56: Kingfisher (64): HYD-CCU: 12/2008
8.24: Kingfisher (14): IXA-GAU: 10/2006
7.87: Indian (34): BOM-MAA: 09/2007
7.72: Alliance Air (13): CCU-IXA: 10/2006
7.57: Indian Airlines (10): DEL-CCU: 09/2006
7.23: West Jet (03): YYC-YVR: 09/2006
7.15: JetLite (37): BOM-GOI: 09/2007
6.98: Air Koryo (100): PEK-FNJ: 04/2010
6.96: Maldivian (137): MLE-TRV: 12/2011
6.96: Lao Airlines (135): VTE-KUL: 12/2011
6.70: Spice Jet (09): CCU-DEL: 09/2006
6.63: Air Fiji (44): NAN-SUV: 10/2007
6.63: Jazeera (67): DAM-KWI: 01/2009
6.58: Air Tran (02): EWR-MDW: 08/2006
6.48: Air India Express (63): CMB-MAA: 12/2008
6.44: CO Micronesia (39): ROR-YAP: 10/2007
6.41: Pacific Sun (43): NAN-SUV: 10/2007
6.37: Buffalo Airways (138): 06/2011
6.37: Skybus (47): SWF-CMH: 02/2008
6.33: Kenya Airways (29): NBO-BJM: 08/2007
6.33: Sky Europe (56): LTN-BTS: 10/2008
6.31: Indigo (15): GAU-CCU: 10/2006
6.31: easyJet (57): BUD-LTN: 11/2008
6.22: Air Link Swazi (28): MTS-JNB: 08/2007
6.22: Air India (36): HYD-BOM: 09/2007
6.13: Adam Air (07): SIN-CGK: 09/2006
6.13: Air Rarotonga (41): RAR-AIT: 10/2007
6.04: Suriname Airways (118): PBM-POS: 01/2011
6.00: Transairways (27): INH-MPM: 08/2007
5.95: Air Canada (05): ALB-YYZ: 09/2006
5.85: SAS Norge (22): OSL-AES: 05/2007
5.81: LAM Mozambique (26): JNB-MPM: 08/2007
5.69: Air Deccan (12): IXZ-CCU: 10/2006
5.67: Rwanda Air Exp (30): KGL-NBO: 08/2007
5.52: Sevenair (114): TOE-TUN: 11/2010
5.37: Felix Airways (92): SCT-SAH: 12/2009
5.11: Aero Republica (76): BOG-CCS: 04/2009
5.07: Go Air (35): MAA-HYD: 09/2007
5.04: Biman (121): DAC-CGP: 01/2011
5.00: Sky Airline (51): IQQ-SCL: 06/2008
4.96: United Bangla (122): CGP-DAC: 01/2011
4.96: Valuair (08): CGK-SIN: 09/2006
4.78: Air Comet Chile (50): SCL-IQQ: 06/2008
4.74: Fly 540 (31): MYD-LAU: 08/2007
4.33: Viva Aerobus (20): ELP-MTY: 02/2007
4.11: Air Sahara (11): CCU-BOM: 09/2006

(Note on Codes: Y – Economy, J – Business, F – First :: I/D – International/Domestic :: SR/MR/LR – Short/Medium/Long Haul)
(Note on Date: Dates are modified to be +/- 3 days from actual flight date to not reveal actual flight pattern)

VII> Other Pictures:

(Buffalo Airways goodies picked-up)

* Unbiased view on how an actual traveler may view the flight
* Not a professional photographer (so please keep in mind)
* Commitment that I won’t identify myself to the airline as “reviewing them”
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RE: Buffalo Airways *DC3*: JUN/11: YZF-YHY: Y Cabin

Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:36 am

Hi Alex,

another nice report about an exotic airline - and an exotic type! I like the seat design on that bird.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
I believe this is the first report from Buffalo Airways and features the venerable DC3 – but then again, I suck at using the search function on A.Net.

Well, the search function hasn't worked properly for a long time...


PH
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RE: Buffalo Airways *DC3*: JUN/11: YZF-YHY: Y Cabin

Fri Sep 21, 2012 6:36 am

Alex, you keep on surprising us with all these reports. Truly incredible! But, I feel this report needs a video or two to truly appreciate the aircraft.
 
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RE: Buffalo Airways *DC3*: JUN/11: YZF-YHY: Y Cabin

Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:00 am

Good read.

Interesting airline and aircraft.

If you get the chance watch the series Ice Pilots. It covers the day to day operation of Buffalo Airways.
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RE: Buffalo Airways *DC3*: JUN/11: YZF-YHY: Y Cabin

Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:06 am

What more to say, OUTSTANDING -as always! Great TR!

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
As mentioned, the same guy who had yelled the boarding announcement provided in-flight service. He was a pleasant chap and smiled during the entire duration of the flight. During boarding, the guy helped some with baggage storage, and took control of service delivery once we leveled off. Given that he was training to be a pilot, I was impressed that he did his entire service with dignity and kindness

WOW! As mentioned before, I saw some episodes of "Buffalo Airways" on TV. But the only thing I can remember of, was a guy in private clothing sitting in the cockpit to observe how to fly... Never thought, that this kind of "Flight Attendant" did something else, like the onboard service!
 
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RE: Buffalo Airways *DC3*: JUN/11: YZF-YHY: Y Cabin

Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:55 am

Wow so cool! You have the best adventures...thanks for sharing them with us!
 
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RE: Buffalo Airways *DC3*: JUN/11: YZF-YHY: Y Cabin

Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:59 pm

Hey Alex,

Another very unique and interesting TR. You are spoiling us as usual.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Now, several (dreamlinerAL, debonair, kiramakora, etc.) were surprised that I had left the DC-3 of Buffalo Airways out of the routings. Well, the truth was that I thought I had misplaced the SD-Card and could not find the pictures of Buffalo until last weekend. Come on everyone, how could I fly to Yellowknife and not wish to fly the DC-3!

How could they have doubted you? Tisk tisk.  
Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Buffalo Airways maintains a website (www.buffaloairways.com) but does not provide an online booking facility for its sole scheduled passenger service. You have to call in and reserve and they generously allow you to book when you actually get there.

I'm sure this adds to the exotic/retro experience of it all.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
instead, it flies from its own hangar area which increases the exoticness of the flight.

Now that's awesome.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Surprisingly (due to flight stage length and the fact that this is the only scheduled operation of the aircraft), we were served a snack and drink.

It seems like Northern Canadians really value on-board food/drink service. If I recall you had some really generous catering in your previous flights up there. Who would have thought?

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
(Buffalo Airways goodies picked-up)

Interesting,. The photo in the postcard is almost identical to the one you shot while boarding the aircraft  


Great stuff Alex. Thanks for sharing it with us. I'm really glad you found the lost SD-card with the photos for this report  

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RE: Buffalo Airways *DC3*: JUN/11: YZF-YHY: Y Cabin

Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:06 pm

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 6):
Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 6):
It seems like Northern Canadians really value on-board food/drink service. If I recall you had some really generous catering in your previous flights up there. Who would have thought?

It is amazing that 2 of Canada's Northern carriers (5T, 7F) can put to shame 2 of Canada's National airlines ( WS, AC) by offering hot meals on flights and even a glass of complimentary wine at dinner when it comes to meal service. Proud to say I am from Canada's North, We're friendly up here!  

Even more proud to say I grew up with the McBryan's in YHY. They are some very gracious folks..
 
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RE: Buffalo Airways *DC3*: JUN/11: YZF-YHY: Y Cabin

Sat Sep 22, 2012 12:18 pm

Excellent. Loved the "Up there" magazine with "Sex in a Canoe"  

More seriously, you're so lucky to have done this flight and a lot will envoy you ... Thanks a lot for sharing this with us. I would be interested in what such a flight costs? I expect it not even be such expensive...
 
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RE: Buffalo Airways *DC3*: JUN/11: YZF-YHY: Y Cabin

Sat Sep 22, 2012 3:34 pm

Very nice, and as usual with you detailed, unique experience !

Is there any chance you could post an interior shot of the safety card ? I am very curious about it
 
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RE: Buffalo Airways *DC3*: JUN/11: YZF-YHY: Y Cabin

Sat Sep 22, 2012 5:19 pm

Hi Alex !

Thanks for another great report with great pictures ! I'm very happy you found the SD card so we got the chance to see this report.

It's really great that it's still possible to fly on a DC-3 with original type of engines as well! Good to hear that the airline was very enthusiast friendly as well. Great with a drink service on such a short flight!

I had a DC-3 flight in Sweden about 20 years ago on a plane flown in old SAS colors and it was a great experience.

Looking forward to your next trip report!

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RE: Buffalo Airways *DC3*: JUN/11: YZF-YHY: Y Cabin

Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:08 pm

Hello Alex

Wow, fantastic report. Thanks for sharing!
The DC3 looks simply amazing
Great nostalgia, great looking cabin


Greetings
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RE: Buffalo Airways *DC3*: JUN/11: YZF-YHY: Y Cabin

Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:08 pm

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Hi Alex,

another nice report about an exotic airline - and an exotic type! I like the seat design on that bird.

= Thanks PH.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 1):
Well, the search function hasn't worked properly for a long time...

= I know. I give the disclaimer as in the past people have been upset when I have claimed it was the first report after doing a lot of "searching"   ...

Quoting kiramakora (Reply 2):
Alex, you keep on surprising us with all these reports. Truly incredible! But, I feel this report needs a video or two to truly appreciate the aircraft.

= I am going to search for a video. I am rather sure I have one here somewhere. Thanks for stopping by.

Quoting Ryan h (Reply 3):

Good read.

Interesting airline and aircraft.

If you get the chance watch the series Ice Pilots. It covers the day to day operation of Buffalo Airways.

= It is harder to get the DVD's here in Venezuela, but a friend of mine promises to send them to me.

Quoting debonair (Reply 4):
What more to say, OUTSTANDING -as always! Great TR!

= Thanks. See, and you thought I had forgotten about it  .

Quoting debonair (Reply 4):
WOW! As mentioned before, I saw some episodes of "Buffalo Airways" on TV. But the only thing I can remember of, was a guy in private clothing sitting in the cockpit to observe how to fly... Never thought, that this kind of "Flight Attendant" did something else, like the onboard service!

= Ya. There is a whole progression of roles before they get the left side.

Quoting burj (Reply 5):
Wow so cool! You have the best adventures...thanks for sharing them with us!

= Thanks mate.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 6):
Another very unique and interesting TR. You are spoiling us as usual.

= You have written many amazing ones yourself.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 6):
How could they have doubted you? Tisk tisk.  

= LOL.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 6):
It seems like Northern Canadians really value on-board food/drink service. If I recall you had some really generous catering in your previous flights up there. Who would have thought?

= I am telling you ... Northern Canada is the place to be to fly exotic aircraft! The 732, Shorts 360, 73M, HS7, and now DC3.

Quoting Widebodyroga (Reply 6):
Interesting,. The photo in the postcard is almost identical to the one you shot while boarding the aircraft  

= I suck at photography.

Quoting ykaops (Reply 7):
It is amazing that 2 of Canada's Northern carriers (5T, 7F) can put to shame 2 of Canada's National airlines ( WS, AC) by offering hot meals on flights and even a glass of complimentary wine at dinner when it comes to meal service. Proud to say I am from Canada's North, We're friendly up here!  

Even more proud to say I grew up with the McBryan's in YHY. They are some very gracious folks..


= Well, to be fair, easier to do these kind of things when you are a boutique operation. I have always found WestJet to be incredibly good. On Air Canada, I have either good flights, mediocre flights, and mostly poor flights. Sadly.

Quoting reifel (Reply 8):
Excellent. Loved the "Up there" magazine with "Sex in a Canoe"  

= LOL. Want me to send it to you?

Quoting reifel (Reply 8):
More seriously, you're so lucky to have done this flight and a lot will envoy you ... Thanks a lot for sharing this with us. I would be interested in what such a flight costs? I expect it not even be such expensive...

= Relatively cheap. Fly them one way to YHY and then take 7F back.

Quoting taichen (Reply 9):
Is there any chance you could post an interior shot of the safety card ? I am very curious about it

= I will look for it and then post it. Do you want me to just send it to you?

Quoting The777Man (Reply 10):

Hi Alex !

Thanks for another great report with great pictures ! I'm very happy you found the SD card so we got the chance to see this report.

= Thanks Lars.

Quoting The777Man (Reply 10):

I had a DC-3 flight in Sweden about 20 years ago on a plane flown in old SAS colors and it was a great experience.

= Wow. That must have been quite unique!

On another note, on past Sunday, I unexpectedly flew via LAX and went to the UAX counters looking for you. This was around 11am.

Saludos,
A.
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Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:39 pm

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 12):
Wow. That must have been quite unique!

Yes, even had a SK flight number and a flight attendant in old SAS uniform!

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 12):
On another note, on past Sunday, I unexpectedly flew via LAX and went to the UAX counters looking for you. This was around 11am.

I work evenings so I wasn't there. Check for me at UA counters, not UAX. UAX people probably don't know who I am.

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Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:41 pm

Hi Alex!

Very nice to read about your DC-3 experience. Must have been great, I can only imagine. The DC-3 surely is a unique bird in many respects and I was considering to fly with an example which is flown by the Swedish organisation "Flygande Veteraner" but it didn't happen this year. Maybe summer 2013!
Buffalo Airways didn't seem to disappoint either, from a service point of view.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Anyways, so here is my delayed report of the Buffalo Airways flight on board an original DC-3 (not the ones with the new engines). This is the only scheduled commercial DC-3 in operation and Buffalo Airways flies them from Yellowknife to Hay River (YHY) 6 times a week.

Great idea and so cool that this bird is still used in commercial airline service.

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
I believe this is the first report from Buffalo Airways and features the venerable DC3 – but then again, I suck at using the search function on A.Net.

Well, it isn't the best search function around!

Martin
 
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Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:11 pm

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 14):
I was considering to fly with an example which is flown by the Swedish organisation "Flygande Veteraner" but it didn't happen this year. Maybe summer 2013!

You should do it Martin! It was a great experience, just a short flight BMA-MHQ about an hour each way. You also fly lower so great to see the archipelago from a lower altitude. They do other routes too.

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Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:24 pm

Quoting The777Man (Reply 13):
Yes, even had a SK flight number and a flight attendant in old SAS uniform!

= Wow. This must have been super cool!

Quoting The777Man (Reply 13):
I work evenings so I wasn't there. Check for me at UA counters, not UAX. UAX people probably don't know who I am.

The777Man

= For whatever reason, I thought you worked at UAX. Anyways, I have your mobile number, so will give a ring. I am scheduled to be in LAX at least twice this year ... though, one would be the "bizarre" transit one does on KE's continuing service to GRU.

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 14):
Very nice to read about your DC-3 experience. Must have been great, I can only imagine. The DC-3 surely is a unique bird in many respects and I was considering to fly with an example which is flown by the Swedish organisation "Flygande Veteraner" but it didn't happen this year. Maybe summer 2013!
Buffalo Airways didn't seem to disappoint either, from a service point of view.
Quoting The777Man (Reply 15):
You should do it Martin! It was a great experience, just a short flight BMA-MHQ about an hour each way. You also fly lower so great to see the archipelago from a lower altitude. They do other routes too.

The777Man


= I rarely disagree with Lars (hehe), but this time my vote would be to go to Canada and fly Buffalo as it is a regular scheduled service  . I have a ton of emails from their OPS people and I know they are very generous in providing "discounts" to aviation enthusiasts.

Thanks a lot for stopping by.

Saludos,
A.
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Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:16 pm

Quoting The777Man (Reply 15):
You should do it Martin! It was a great experience, just a short flight BMA-MHQ about an hour each way. You also fly lower so great to see the archipelago from a lower altitude. They do other routes too.
Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 16):
= I rarely disagree with Lars (hehe), but this time my vote would be to go to Canada and fly Buffalo as it is a regular scheduled service . I have a ton of emails from their OPS people and I know they are very generous in providing "discounts" to aviation enthusiasts.

Thanks for the tips, good to hear both inputs! I'm still leaning towards Flygande Veteraner though mainly because of the SAS-painted bird and the easy accessibility for me here in Stockholm!
But then again, I have always wanted to visit Canada...  

Martin
 
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Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:32 pm

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 16):
For whatever reason, I thought you worked at UAX. Anyways, I have your mobile number, so will give a ring. I am scheduled to be in LAX at least twice this year ... though, one would be the "bizarre" transit one does on KE's continuing service to GRU.

Looking forward to meeting you. I handle international arrivals sometimes so I do go to TBIT every now and then.

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Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:06 am

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 12):
Quoting taichen (Reply 9):
Is there any chance you could post an interior shot of the safety card ? I am very curious about it

= I will look for it and then post it. Do you want me to just send it to you?

wow, how kind of you ! My email is aomd88 (at) gmail.com, if you could send it there it would be great
 
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Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:47 pm

Unique and awesome Alex!

i'm so jealous  

Were other passengers random people or aviation enthusiasts too?
One can imagine the frustration in case of technical problem on this mythical bird!

Thanks again for this new discovery
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Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:05 am

Quoting deltamartin (Reply 17):
Thanks for the tips, good to hear both inputs! I'm still leaning towards Flygande Veteraner though mainly because of the SAS-painted bird and the easy accessibility for me here in Stockholm!
But then again, I have always wanted to visit Canada...  

Martin

= Martin, just go visit Canada  . I have pretty good friends in senior management positions at Buffalo, WS, 7F, and AC if you need a hook up ...

Quoting The777Man (Reply 18):

Looking forward to meeting you. I handle international arrivals sometimes so I do go to TBIT every now and then.

The777Man

= Ok. Will keep in mind. Thanks.

Quoting taichen (Reply 19):
wow, how kind of you ! My email is aomd88 (at) gmail.com, if you could send it there it would be great

= Haha. I was going to mail you the original. If interested, PM me the address.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 20):
Unique and awesome Alex!

i'm so jealous  

= Haha. Thanks, I tried to make you jealous  . Where are you these days?

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 20):
Were other passengers random people or aviation enthusiasts too?
One can imagine the frustration in case of technical problem on this mythical bird!

= I was the only aviation enthusiast - everyone else was doing it as a regular pax.

Thanks all for stopping by.

Saludos,
A.

PS: Does anyone know an online video editor where I can crop and edit a video? Trying to cut down the DC3 engine video. Thanks.
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Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:54 am

I saw something on TV about this airline.

I flew on a DC-3 on an airline called DELTA in the early 1970s from Amsterdam to Antwerp. I am glad I did it. The only thing I regret is that I never flew the Concorde.
 
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Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:46 pm

Hey Alex,

Great report as usual! You know, DC3s, Northern Canada... it's something special. Good to see this kind of route and flying reminiscent of an earlier age.

Thanks very much for writing it up--good that you've found the seemingly lost pictures.

Just came back from a week of a lot of flying... Visited Montreal and flew Porter but my Westjet flight was cancelled so will have to return to Canada sometime soon in the future! Will have to see about the North of Canada, then  

Thanks again!
 
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Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:41 am

Hi Alex !
nice job as always ...

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
I believe this is the first report from Buffalo Airways

joking with us ? this is so wonderful to read ... Buffalo Joe must be so proud

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
I had misplaced the SD-Card


no wonder hehehe

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
taking as many pictures as we desired.

Mark should maintain team seminars for other airlines crew ... new business for B.Joe

Quoting abrelosojos (Thread starter):
Buffalo Airways goodies picked-up

wow this is the real good prey ... are you planning to open museum with all that stuff ? ... when you retired hehe
just one question ... whether "sol de america" is still flying with DC-3 or not ?
good luck A. and thanks for effort ...stipica  
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Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:01 am

Quoting lychemsa (Reply 22):
I flew on a DC-3 on an airline called DELTA in the early 1970s from Amsterdam to Antwerp. I am glad I did it. The only thing I regret is that I never flew the Concorde.

= I had to look this up. I vaguely remember them.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 23):
Great report as usual! You know, DC3s, Northern Canada... it's something special. Good to see this kind of route and flying reminiscent of an earlier age.

= Thanks. Does that mean you're gonna make a visit  ?

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 23):
Just came back from a week of a lot of flying... Visited Montreal and flew Porter but my Westjet flight was cancelled so will have to return to Canada sometime soon in the future! Will have to see about the North of Canada, then  

= How was PD? Are we gonna get a trip report? What happened on WS?

Quoting stipica (Reply 24):

Hi Alex !
nice job as always ...

= Thanks as always  .

Quoting stipica (Reply 24):
joking with us ? this is so wonderful to read ... Buffalo Joe must be so proud

= I wonder if he is an A.Netter  .

Quoting stipica (Reply 24):
Mark should maintain team seminars for other airlines crew ... new business for B.Joe
Quoting stipica (Reply 24):
wow this is the real good prey ... are you planning to open museum with all that stuff ? ... when you retired hehe
just one question ... whether "sol de america" is still flying with DC-3 or not ?
good luck A. and thanks for effort ...stipica  

= I have not seen the Sol DC3 for a while - someone told me it was spotted in MIA.

Saludos,
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Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:11 pm

Hi abrelosojos,

Another great report with nice pictures on this exotic carier and aircraft, amazing!

cheers,

Brendan
 
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Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:58 pm

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 25):
Thanks. Does that mean you're gonna make a visit  

At some point, for sure. My travel partner doesn't have a Canadian visa so maybe it'll have to wait. We'll see. Still, some interesting planes up there...

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 25):
How was PD? Are we gonna get a trip report? What happened on WS?

I'll write a report on RO/KL/PD... but not too soon. I'll have grad school apps to take care of for the foreseeable future... Then I'll clear my backlog. December-ish or so. Then the backlog will start filling up again with my Asian trip.

Oh, WS... I think my flight was cancelled due to weather at LGA. So close and yet so far. I rebooked on DL, so I won't be writing a report on those segments.

All the best!
 
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Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:24 am

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 26):

Hi abrelosojos,

Another great report with nice pictures on this exotic carier and aircraft, amazing!

cheers,

Brendan

= Thanks Brendan.

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 27):
At some point, for sure. My travel partner doesn't have a Canadian visa so maybe it'll have to wait. We'll see. Still, some interesting planes up there...

= Where is she/he from?

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 27):
I'll write a report on RO/KL/PD... but not too soon. I'll have grad school apps to take care of for the foreseeable future... Then I'll clear my backlog. December-ish or so. Then the backlog will start filling up again with my Asian trip.

= Where are you going to in Asia? I look forward to another on RO!

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 27):
Oh, WS... I think my flight was cancelled due to weather at LGA. So close and yet so far. I rebooked on DL, so I won't be writing a report on those segments.

= That makes sense. I have a friend at WS now and was going to ask him. They are really good in general.

Saludos,
A.
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Sun Sep 30, 2012 11:54 pm

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 28):
Where is she/he from?

She's Romanian too, and at the U of C as well. Makes the relationship easier  
Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 28):

= Where are you going to in Asia? I look forward to another on RO!

It's gonna be Japan (Tokyo+Kyoto) and Seoul. Right now one of the KE flights is showing as an A306... Gonna try out MH as well, trans-Pacific.

Another on RO... It was a Sunday again. Let's just say I'm not gonna fly on RO out of OTP on Sunday morning anytime soon. An old "friend" was there, again at desk 13. The other check-in agent was less than professional too. Seriously, I don't know what happened in one year, but Romania in general has gotten much worse.

Quoting abrelosojos (Reply 28):
= That makes sense. I have a friend at WS now and was going to ask him. They are really good in general.

That's my best guess, anyway. I didn't ask anyone, but I know NYC got really bad weather and we know how busy the skies are there.
 
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Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:02 am

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 29):
She's Romanian too, and at the U of C as well. Makes the relationship easier  

= Fair enough ... and probably, keep the parents happy as well   ...

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 29):
It's gonna be Japan (Tokyo+Kyoto) and Seoul. Right now one of the KE flights is showing as an A306... Gonna try out MH as well, trans-Pacific.

= The 306  ? BTW, I wish I had your student budget!

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 29):
Another on RO... It was a Sunday again. Let's just say I'm not gonna fly on RO out of OTP on Sunday morning anytime soon. An old "friend" was there, again at desk 13. The other check-in agent was less than professional too. Seriously, I don't know what happened in one year, but Romania in general has gotten much worse.

= You really do need to diversify away from RO.

Saludos,
A.
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