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Qantas, Business Class: Tokyo To Sydney

Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:57 pm

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Airlines: QANTAS
Aircraft:
Boeing B 747-400
Cabin:
Business Class
Seat:
11K
From:
Tokyo Narita
To:
Sydney
Date:
14. August 2013
Departure:
20:30
Arrival:
07:05 (+1)

GETTING TO THE AIRPORT

Check-out for the day rooms at the Narita Hilton is at 18:00, which gives me about two and a half hours to take a shower and have a rest – and watch the planes. I’m fortunate enough to have a room on the top floor overlooking the approach to runway 16R.

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At 18:15 the shuttle pulls up outside to take me back to Narita’s Terminal 2 for the flight to Sydney. The photos really don’t do the bus justice, but the interior is brilliant and very seventies, complete with chandeliers and draped blue curtains. The journey takes about 15 minutes to complete.

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CHECK-IN

Check-in is done by JAL for Qantas in Narita. And tonight it’s unusually chaotic, particularly given that this is Japan, where normally everything works like clockwork.

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I am assigned seat 11B, an aisle seat on the first row of the upper deck. The flight is not full though and once we’re airborne and the seatbelt sign is turned off, I move across to 11K and have the whole row of two to myself.

THE LOUNGE

Qantas operates its own lounge in Tokyo, which is located on the second floor of the satellite concourse of Terminal 2 adjacent to 82, from where my flight will be leaving tonight. The lounge offers some great views of the aircraft. Unfortunately though, being dark I’m unable to take any decent pictures.

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The food selection in the lounge is good, with a combination of Asian and Western dishes and the ubiquitous soft drinks machines.

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BOARDING

Boarding for the 20:30 departure already starts at 19:55. By the looks of it it’s not going to be a full flight tonight.

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THE CABIN

The cabin is much nicer than I expected it would be from the pictures I found on the net, and Qantas has obviously put a lot of thought into providing sufficient storage space in the cabin on the upper deck.

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SERVICE

As soon as I take my seat, one of the flight attendants comes to welcome me to the flight and asks me if there’s anything I’d like to drink. As usual it’s an orange juice for me.

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Shortly before departure hot towels are distributed.

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The seat is equipped with a small bottle of Vittel mineral water, earphones, a thin cover for the seat and a blanket. Before we push back, one of the crew brings me a vanity kit and the famous grey Qantas pyjamas.

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Seriously, who on earth designed these things? I am given a size L/XL. I change in the toilet and can only pray that the lights have already been dimmed by the time I come out again so as not to make a spectacle of myself. The pants are rather tight, to say the least...

By the way, what’s missing is some sort of inflight magazine. Do they actually have one?

THE MEAL

The meal begins with the drinks orders. I’m having another Ginger Ale. This stuff is starting to grow on me. No peanuts or anything of the sort are served with the drink.

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The entire meal service takes an eternity to complete, for no apparent reason. It also strikes me that although the crew are really quite personable and friendly, the whole experience seems somehow a bit soulless. The composition of the menu for instance seems haphazard and the portion of the dishes is somewhat variable.

For a starter there is a choice of Miso soup with shitake mushroom and wakame. The other choice is smoked duck salad. The table is set up with a tablecloth, followed by a side plate which contains the cutlery, salt and pepper, butter and a side salad. The salad is minute and even the flight attendant comments that it’ll be hard trying to make that last for more than two mouthfuls.

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There is only one bread round and judging by the content of the basket, a second round is not envisaged.

For the main I have the Gnocchi with a tomato sauce and grilled pumpkin and sautéed leeks. I must say, this tastes very good, the portion is decently sized and the meal is still hot when it arrives at my seat.

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It takes the crew quite a while to come to remove my dish. Actually I suspect they may have forgotten about me. The flight attendant is eager to make amends though and asks me if I’ll be having dessert, which he brings me straight away. And this really is divine: chocolate and caramel tart in a short crust pastry with a dollop of crème fraîche. Lovely!

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Ninety minutes before we land the mood lights go on again and feign a sunrise at lighting speed.

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The breakfast service begins. Again I am struck by the somewhat odd combination of things on offer. Fresh fruit in passion fruit juice with a dollop of yoghurt, orange juice, filter coffee and a salmon onigiri. Don’t get me wrong, I like onigiri, especially the salmon ones. But it just seems like a strange thing to serve on a breakfast flight.

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Again the meal is not served on a tray.

ARRIVAL

Once the meal is done, I start packing all my belonging that I have managed to spread around all over the place during the flight.

The approach into Sydney is truly spectacular and brings us in right above the city. We head out towards the open sea, passing Bondi Beach on the left hand side, before doing a wide right turn to line up for landing.

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Fortunately I have an express card for immigration from Qantas, which should save me some time. You see, I have a connection from the domestic terminal. You didn’t seriously think I’d be done after only three flights, did you?
 
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RE: Qantas, Business Class: Tokyo To Sydney

Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:17 pm

Thanks for the report! Do you know if it was a reconfigured 747? Looking at the business class I suspect it is. One way to tell is if the seats were fully horizontal in bed mode.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
By the way, what’s missing is some sort of inflight magazine. Do they actually have one?

Yes, "The Australian Way". There was one in my seat pocket when I flew NRT-SYD (W) in July. Wonder why yours was missing. Perhaps hidden in a compartment in your seat?
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RE: Qantas, Business Class: Tokyo To Sydney

Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:45 am

Great report!

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
The breakfast service begins. Again I am struck by the somewhat odd combination of things on offer. Fresh fruit in passion fruit juice with a dollop of yoghurt, orange juice, filter coffee and a salmon onigiri. Don’t get me wrong, I like onigiri, especially the salmon ones. But it just seems like a strange thing to serve on a breakfast flight.

I believe Onigiri is actually a common Japanese breakfast. My Japanese friend says her family eats it like toast.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
The composition of the menu for instance seems haphazard and the portion of the dishes is somewhat variable.

This is part of Qantas's new Business class menu. The differing sizes are supposed to add more flexibility to the meal service, so you can have say three small plates or two main sized plates. From what I've heard though, the crew seem to be struggling with it a bit?

Quoting allrite (Reply 1):
Do you know if it was a reconfigured 747? Looking at the business class I suspect it is. One way to tell is if the seats were fully horizontal in bed mode.

Yep! You can also tell by the PTVs being in the armrest, rather than the seat back.
 
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RE: Qantas, Business Class: Tokyo To Sydney

Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:24 am

Great report, I really enjoyed reading it. The descent into Sydney looks stunning!

Quoting bwwt (Reply 2):
This is part of Qantas's new Business class menu. The differing sizes are supposed to add more flexibility to the meal service, so you can have say three small plates or two main sized plates. From what I've heard though, the crew seem to be struggling with it a bit?

From what I've heard, the crew don't seem to quite "get it", and are still offering it as an entre-main standard meal combination, even though the menu states that you can order anything you like at any time. I guess it is much easier for them to manage this way!

Quoting bwwt (Reply 2):
Yep! You can also tell by the PTVs being in the armrest, rather than the seat back.

And also the Boeing Signature Interior (777 style) which means that it was a 747-400ER! A nice change for the NRT route which often gets the tatty old ones, as Allrite's recent report demonstrates!

Quoting allrite (Reply 1):
I flew NRT-SYD (W) in July

Spoiler alert?  

[Edited 2013-08-14 20:25:25]
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RE: Qantas, Business Class: Tokyo To Sydney

Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:41 am

Good to read about Qantus' J product on a long-range flight. Interesting that their meal service seems a bit all over the place, and strange that don't get anything to snack on during the drink service!

Sounds like you've done a lot of flying. Two long-range flights in a short span of time. I love all things airlines, and flying, but man, you have some abilty to sit still and patient for all those hours!  

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RE: Qantas, Business Class: Tokyo To Sydney

Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:04 am

These first three reports have really intrigued me about what's more to come. I really enjoy seeing the offerings of these carriers, especially in the premium cabins. Great TR once again, and I will be looking forward towards the next one. And by the way you are sending these detailed reports out so quickly, I feel it will be soon. Hope you have a great rest of the trip, and I am looking forward to where this next flight takes you.
 
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RE: Qantas, Business Class: Tokyo To Sydney

Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:50 am

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
By the way, what’s missing is some sort of inflight magazine. Do they actually have one?

The Qantas magazine is called "The Australian Way" and imho is one of the more interesting and engaging in-flight magazines I've come across. The magazine - along with the safety card, inflight wine guide and sick bag can be a bit tricky to find in the skybed seats. I can actually see them in a couple of your photos though  
 
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RE: Qantas, Business Class: Tokyo To Sydney

Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:49 pm

Great report, knightsofmalta! When I saw the title, I was particularly interested to read your thoughts given my own experience in QF J on an Asian route.


Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
The entire meal service takes an eternity to complete, for no apparent reason. It also strikes me that although the crew are really quite personable and friendly, the whole experience seems somehow a bit soulless. The composition of the menu for instance seems haphazard and the portion of the dishes is somewhat variable.

I noticed the same things on the flight home from CGK a few weeks back. CGK-SYD was an overnighter, and due to the flight being 6-7 hours total, the menu consisted of "Supper Plates" - I assume this is to maximize rest, and due to holiday-season delays in pushback, orders were taken on the ground, so I would have thought service would have been relatively quick. The opposite. The initial setting tables was quick, and no sooner had some customers up front had their table set, they were being service their supper plate, and I thought, "great, I'll wolf this down and sleep". The reality was the opposite - it took up to 80 minutes for all of us to receive our plates, with some people finishing before some even getting their meals.

While the crew did their jobs, there was a overall lack of enthusiasm about the whole thing. I was trying to think of a good description when I was writing my own report, but you've pretty much nailed it.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 3):
From what I've heard, the crew don't seem to quite "get it", and are still offering it as an entre-main standard meal combination, even though the menu states that you can order anything you like at any time. I guess it is much easier for them to manage this way!

Same thing on the SYD-CGK flight. I noticed the large and small plates concept on the Menu - but was simply asked what I'd like for entrée and what I'd like for main. No one asked for anything substantial later on during the flight - so I can't comment of the "anytime" concept. Personally, I would have thought the "plates" concept would be a nightmare, logistically, and perhaps may account for why their meal service took so long?
 
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RE: Qantas, Business Class: Tokyo To Sydney

Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:42 pm

Hey William

Another great report, thanks for sharing this with us.
QF's J looks ok, nice to have the upper deck

Greetings
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RE: Qantas, Business Class: Tokyo To Sydney

Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:05 am

Hi Allrite

Quoting allrite (Reply 1):
One way to tell is if the seats were fully horizontal in bed mode.

Yes, definitely horizontal in bed mode. A bit tricky to get out of though, but still very comfy.

Hi bwwt

Quoting bwwt (Reply 2):
This is part of Qantas's new Business class menu. The differing sizes are supposed to add more flexibility to the meal service, so you can have say three small plates or two main sized plates. From what I've heard though, the crew seem to be struggling with it a bit?

I kind of like the general idea of simply having snacks any time during the flight, rather than a full three course meal with the rest of the mob. But as you say, the crew are definitely struggling with it, to say the least. The gentleman on the other side of the aisle received his main dish when I hadn't even had the soup yet.

Hi RyanairGuru

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 3):
Great report, I really enjoyed reading it. The descent into Sydney looks stunning!

My pleasure, glad you enjoyed the report. The approach into Sydney was certainly stunning. This is the first time I've come in that way and everything just looked so beautiful in the morning light.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 3):
From what I've heard, the crew don't seem to quite "get it", and are still offering it as an entre-main standard meal combination, even though the menu states that you can order anything you like at any time. I guess it is much easier for them to manage this way!

I'm not sure if they don't get it or if the passengers don't and it's too complicated to have to explain it to everybody individually. I think most passengers just expect to get on the plane, have a meal and then go to sleep. It's what they're used to.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 3):
And also the Boeing Signature Interior (777 style) which means that it was a 747-400ER! A nice change for the NRT route which often gets the tatty old ones, as Allrite's recent report demonstrates!

That's what surprised me the most. I would have thought they'd send those birds on the really long routes instead. Still, I'm not complaining.

Hi Matthew

Quoting 767747 (Reply 4):
Interesting that their meal service seems a bit all over the place, and strange that don't get anything to snack on during the drink service!

That is something I'm still trying to figure out. My initial thought was, they're trying to save money. But if that were the case, how about abolishing the pjs first?

Quoting 767747 (Reply 4):
Sounds like you've done a lot of flying.

I wonder what makes you say that?

Quoting 767747 (Reply 4):
Two long-range flights in a short span of time. I love all things airlines, and flying, but man, you have some abilty to sit still and patient for all those hours!

Well, what can I say? I suffer in silence...But seriously, so far it's been worth every minute it's taken me to get here!

Hi TPAfan

Quoting TPAfan (Reply 5):
These first three reports have really intrigued me about what's more to come.

Patience. Not much longer to wait for the next installment.

Quoting TPAfan (Reply 5):
Great TR once again, and I will be looking forward towards the next one. And by the way you are sending these detailed reports out so quickly, I feel it will be soon.

Thanks for the encouragement, I appreciate it.

Quoting TPAfan (Reply 5):
Hope you have a great rest of the trip, and I am looking forward to where this next flight takes you.

Thank you, I will. And I shall keep you posted on my progress.

Hi cx777fan

Quoting cx777fan (Reply 6):
The magazine - along with the safety card, inflight wine guide and sick bag can be a bit tricky to find in the skybed seats. I can actually see them in a couple of your photos though

Hm, I found the storage area eventually and there was a sick bag and the safety card in it. But no magazine. I thought maybe they'd abolished the magazine to save money.

Hi j77w

Quoting j77w (Reply 7):
I noticed the same things on the flight home from CGK a few weeks back. CGK-SYD was an overnighter, and due to the flight being 6-7 hours total, the menu consisted of "Supper Plates" - I assume this is to maximize rest, and due to holiday-season delays in pushback, orders were taken on the ground, so I would have thought service would have been relatively quick.

I suspect that one reason why it took so long was that there was no dedicated crew for the upper deck. So the same crew would first serve downstairs and then come upstairs. At least that's my only explanation why it should have taken so long.

Hi Marc

Quoting MSS658 (Reply 8):
QF's J looks ok, nice to have the upper deck

That's the cool thing about Jumbo, the upper deck. It feels different to the top floor on the A 380.

Thanks to all of you for commenting.

Cheers,
William
 
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RE: Qantas, Business Class: Tokyo To Sydney

Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:15 pm

Quoting knightsofmalta (Reply 9):
Hm, I found the storage area eventually and there was a sick bag and the safety card in it. But no magazine. I thought maybe they'd abolished the magazine to save money.

There are two stowages in the Skybed for printed materials; the one you mention is located in the base of the armrest, the second (where the magazine is located) is behind your arm on the outer side of each seat.

Great report! Thanks!

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RE: Qantas, Business Class: Tokyo To Sydney

Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:58 am

Hi ThomasCook

Quoting ThomasCook (Reply 10):
the second (where the magazine is located) is behind your arm on the outer side of each seat.

In that case I definitely didn't see the second compartment. But thanks for the clarification!

Quoting ThomasCook (Reply 10):
Great report! Thanks!

Thank you, my pleasure!

And thanks for commenting.

Cheers,
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Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:41 am

Hi William,

another good report! Congratulations on getting on the 747-400ER which is a very rare subtype. And you even got the newest frame, probably the last ever 747 delivered to QF...well, hopefully not. But chances for a 747-8 order are very slim...

Btw - how was the air conditioning on the upper deck? Did you feel a constant air stream? That's what I experienced on a KLM 744 some months ago, for 11 hours. Very bad actually.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
The meal begins with the drinks orders. I’m having another Ginger Ale. This stuff is starting to grow on me.

Good to hear! It's the "champagne" among non-alcoholic drinks.  

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
Ninety minutes before we land the mood lights go on again and feign a sunrise at lighting speed.

Very cool to see this on a 747. I really need to get on such an -ER bird.


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RE: Qantas, Business Class: Tokyo To Sydney

Sun Aug 18, 2013 9:47 am

Hola William!

Great to read bout your QF experience; you are really brave, taking two long flights in a row with only few hours to relax.

I absolutely love the tacky interior of the bus to NRT, so great they keep this 70s look on those transfers.

Great you could fly on the upper deck of the B747, something I have never done.

The capsule seats on QF do not look very elegant but I am sure they are comfortable; the food though looks a litlle bit on the down side, they should work better on that.

Being able to see all those great views of Sydney on arrival with the morning sun would have made my day.

Salut!

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RE: Qantas, Business Class: Tokyo To Sydney

Sun Aug 18, 2013 11:26 pm

Hi Udo

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 12):
Congratulations on getting on the 747-400ER which is a very rare subtype.

Thanks! I was rather surprised to see that standing at the gate. As far as I know it should have been one of the -400s with RR engines.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 12):
probably the last ever 747 delivered to QF...well, hopefully not. But chances for a 747-8 order are very slim...

Alas, I don't think a B747-8 order is going to happen for Qantas. They have the A 380 for the heavy duty stuff. And I guess now that they're working closer with EK the -8 becomes even more unlikely. By the way, didn't Korean Air order the passenger version of the -8?

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 12):
Btw - how was the air conditioning on the upper deck? Did you feel a constant air stream? That's what I experienced on a KLM 744 some months ago, for 11 hours. Very bad actually.

There wasn't a constant air stream. But when I took my original seat the air vent was on. As I turned it off, the gentleman sitting next to me did say that his got stronger. As for KLM, I think the cabin of their B747-400s was getting a bit long in the tooth because they knew that they'd be revamping them soon. I'm dying to try out the new KL C class seat.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 12):
Good to hear! It's the "champagne" among non-alcoholic drinks.

Absolutely.

Quoting PlaneHunter (Reply 12):
Very cool to see this on a 747. I really need to get on such an -ER bird.

Personally, I think everything is cool about the 747.

Hi Roger

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 13):
you are really brave, taking two long flights in a row with only few hours to relax.

It was okay. Not sure I would have done it in Economy though.

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 13):
I absolutely love the tacky interior of the bus to NRT, so great they keep this 70s look on those transfers.

That bus was brilliant, real vintage!

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 13):
Great you could fly on the upper deck of the B747, something I have never done.

Something you must do before it's too late. It's very different to the upper deck of the A 380 and a lot more intimate.

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 13):
The capsule seats on QF do not look very elegant but I am sure they are comfortable; the food though looks a litlle bit on the down side, they should work better on that.

The seat is very comfy, but it really makes the cabin seem gloomy.

Quoting Rogerbcn (Reply 13):
Being able to see all those great views of Sydney on arrival with the morning sun would have made my day.

That really was one of the highlights of the day. Initially I thought I'd be sitting on the wrong side for a straight in approach, but when he banked left to go passed the city I could hardly believe my luck. Sydney is such a lovely place. One of the few cities I could actually imagine living in.

Thanks for taking the time to comment Udo, Roger.

Cheers,
William
 
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RE: Qantas, Business Class: Tokyo To Sydney

Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:42 pm

Hi knightsofmalta!

Another nice episode. After the wonderful BA flight, this Qantas one looks like a fading star. Or was it not it that bad? I do like the egg-like seatback design, very modern.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
The photos really don’t do the bus justice, but the interior is brilliant and very seventies, complete with chandeliers and draped blue curtains.

Lovely! That reminds me a bit of a movie called ‘My big fat Greek wedding’ in which this bus wouldn’t misstand. Was it a hotel courtesy bus?

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
and the famous grey Qantas pyjamas.

Are they famous? It’s the 1st time I see them, they look like trainers more than pj’s lol!

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Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:49 pm

Hi again Nils

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 15):
After the wonderful BA flight, this Qantas one looks like a fading star. Or was it not it that bad?

Interesting you should say that. throughout the flight on Qantas I kept asking myself whether the service was really so-so or if I was simply comparing them the the previous flight in First. I suspect the answer, as usual, lies somewhere in between.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 15):
Was it a hotel courtesy bus?

I'm not sure. It looked like a private coach company and just had a sign on the front with the destination. But the shuttle was for free.

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 15):
Are they famous? It’s the 1st time I see them, they look like trainers more than pj’s lol!

Well, I thought they looked harmless enough too. As you say, more like a trainer. But how wrong I was! I think if the lights hadn't been dimmed, I wouldn't have dared come out of the toilet once I'd changed into the pjs.

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RE: Qantas, Business Class: Tokyo To Sydney

Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:44 am

Hi William,

Thanks for this series of reports thus far, it's been an interesting read.

As I just flew QF from coast-to-coast the onboard service was similar to this flight as they try to step it up on the MEL-PER and SYD-PER routes.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
Before we push back, one of the crew brings me a vanity kit

Looks a bit lacking in appeal- although I understand it's part of some major brand.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
No peanuts or anything of the sort are served with the drink.

Seems to be an omission as domestically nuts and pretzels were served.

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):
The entire meal service takes an eternity to complete, for no apparent reason. It also strikes me that although the crew are really quite personable and friendly, the whole experience seems somehow a bit soulless. The composition of the menu for instance seems haphazard and the portion of the dishes is somewhat variable.

My thoughts exactly on my flight.
 
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RE: Qantas, Business Class: Tokyo To Sydney

Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:47 pm

Quoting Sultanils (Reply 15):

Quoting knightsofmalta (Thread starter):and the famous grey Qantas pyjamas.
Are they famous? It’s the 1st time I see them, they look like trainers more than pj’s lol!

This wouldn't be a reference to the QF flight delayed out of LAX last year, after a pair of pax in First refused to travel without the right size PJ's and then demanded to be let off the flight once ascertained that no more PJ's said pax's requested size were available, would it?  
 
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RE: Qantas, Business Class: Tokyo To Sydney

Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:58 pm

Hi themit9

Quoting themit9 (Reply 17):
Thanks for this series of reports thus far, it's been an interesting read.

My pleasure, glad you're enjoying the reports.

Quoting themit9 (Reply 17):
Looks a bit lacking in appeal- although I understand it's part of some major brand.

Well, the design of the vanity kit is alright. I thought the content was weirder to be honest. Apart from the socks, earplugs, toothbrush and shades for the eyes - which are all pretty standard - there was also this box with three half empty miniature tubes of creams.

Hi j77w

Quoting j77w (Reply 18):
This wouldn't be a reference to the QF flight delayed out of LAX last year, after a pair of pax in First refused to travel without the right size PJ's and then demanded to be let off the flight once ascertained that no more PJ's said pax's requested size were available, would it?

That even made the newspapers in Switzerland!

Thanks for commenting guys.

Cheers,
William
 
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RE: Qantas, Business Class: Tokyo To Sydney

Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:19 pm

Hello again William,

Another nice one you made here!
So down to Australia it is.. what a great idea for a holiday! Cant wait to get to Aussie land  
QF J here looks quite ok, although the food doesn't look that nice! How was the seat? Comfortable? Were you able to get some nice sleep?

Till the next one..

cheers,

Brendan
 
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RE: Qantas, Business Class: Tokyo To Sydney

Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:59 pm

Hi Brendan

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 20):
Cant wait to get to Aussie land

Oh, goody. Does this mean there's another trip report of yours in the pipeline?

Quoting adamspotter (Reply 20):
How was the seat? Comfortable? Were you able to get some nice sleep?

The seat really doesn't look like much but it was quite comfortable. It's more or less horizontal, so no sliding down like on Lufthansa's old C Class seat. And the seat cover they give you makes a lot of difference, even though it is quite thin.

Cheers,
William

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