zanzibar
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Fastest Passenger Aircraft

Sat May 15, 2004 12:32 am

Since the demise of Concorde which aircraft would be the fastest in the following three categories :
a] Regular commercial jet on scheduled service
b] Executive jet
c] Military transport

I know I could pay a small fortune and get a ride in a MIG but I wanted to know about aircraft designed for taking passengers. Your thoughts greatly appreciated.
 
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RE: Fastest Passenger Aircraft

Sat May 15, 2004 12:38 am

The fastest executive jet is the Citation X, Model 750. The Mmo = 0.92, with Md = 0.99
The Citation X is the fastest civil/commercial airplane in the world. It is faster than any commercial jet (your category a).
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RE: Fastest Passenger Aircraft

Sat May 15, 2004 12:43 am

Regular Jet on commercial service: Controversial. B707-120, CV990 and B747-400 were contenders.

Executive Jet : Citation X.

Military Transport: Don't really know.
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RE: Fastest Passenger Aircraft

Sat May 15, 2004 1:35 am

The Tu-144 was the fastest passenger carrier
 
An-225
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RE: Fastest Passenger Aircraft

Sat May 15, 2004 1:40 am

Should be in the other forum anyway.

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RE: Fastest Passenger Aircraft

Sat May 15, 2004 1:48 am

Was just wondering (with the exchange rate 1 pound = 12 Rand) if flying the Electric Lightning, BAe Buccaneer or the Hawker Hunter down in Cape Town would still be a small fortune for pound or dollar earners ?
 
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RE: Fastest Passenger Aircraft

Sat May 15, 2004 2:27 am

Fastest Passenger Plane: Debatable. A DC-8 once broke the sound barrier. Convair built the 880 and 990 which although they carried passengers, were basically large fight jets without weapons (flying battleships) that were extremely fast. The 727 once scared military controllers in the early 1960's because of its unheard of speed for civilian planes, and the 747 has a swept wing angle of 37.5 degrees, the highest among passenger planes (I believe), allowing it to probably have the easiest time approaching Mach one.

Keep in mind that headwinds/tailwinds, traffic, and the cost of fuel negate any slight difference in speed. Basically one flies as fast as the other.

Fastest Biz Jet: I thought I read somewhere it was the Gulfstream 5, but I honestly have no idea.

Fastest Military Jet: The SR-71 Blackbird.


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RE: Fastest Passenger Aircraft

Sat May 15, 2004 2:39 am

How fast is the A380 suppposed to go?
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RE: Fastest Passenger Aircraft

Sat May 15, 2004 2:39 am

PanAm747,

To correct you, the SR-71 doesn't fly anymore.
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PanAm747
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RE: Fastest Passenger Aircraft

Sat May 15, 2004 3:04 am

FRASpotter, thank you. I didn't know that the SR-71 isn't flying anymore. At least publically...

What is the current fastest airplane?
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RE: Fastest Passenger Aircraft

Sat May 15, 2004 1:25 pm

When it was in scheduled service, the Convair 990 was the fastest (when fuel was cheap). Normal cruise speed was M.88

The Lockheed TriStar was designed for M.865, and indeed I personally flew these aircraft for over twenty years, M865 was used as a high-speed cruise.
If ultimate range was a factor, the TriStar was cruised at M.840 (standard body aircraft) or M.830 (-500 series aircraft).

Altho some publications show a rather fast cruise speed for the B707, in actual fact, these aircraft were cruised at M.82, most of the time.
High speed cruise was M.840.
In addition, for those that are into particular airliner 'facts', the B707-320 (non-fan) aircraft was the first jet airliner that could carry more fuel (pounds) than its empty weight...ie: fuel capacity 154,100 pounds, OEW, 142,600 pounds (approximately).

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