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A visitor from - posted Mon April 25, 2011:
How Kalitta Air of them...

A visitor from - posted Fri April 22, 2011:
Very interesting picture. My Dad used to work for Kalitta back in the late 90's, so I emailed him the link to this picture and this is his response. "The engine has been shut down ,either waiting for a repair or (yes they have their own 'drummer' in Michigan) and would/could fly it there, knowing Kalitta. The vanes in front are movable,and are tied to the stators behind which are not movable.( I think I have the words correct-check it out before you quote me) If the engine just spins in the air flow, the oil pump is not working in the shut down mode and the bearing will burn out. On the old Shorts 360's we had tie down straps for the props, but I cannot remember how we stopped the 747 from rotating in the wind--did not do it often. The vanes are very loose and you can hear them banging and rattling in the wind-- -only at higher rpm are they quiet. That was a mournful sound at night on Kalitta's aircraft death row-- old engines rattling --their pleas for help never answered."

A visitor from - posted Fri April 22, 2011:
It is just prep for a 3 engine ferry, nothing to get dramatic about. It is a nice shot of a rarely of an engine in a config that doesn't get documented often, though

A visitor from United States posted Fri April 22, 2011:
This is a locked rotor 3 engine ferry configuration which is completely legal on a ferry flight according to the B747-200 Airplane Flight Manual. The engine will not run, it will ferry empty. Those arent seat belts, but specific straps made by Boeing only for a locked rotor ferry.

A visitor from - posted Fri April 22, 2011:
First, these are NOT seatbelts.
Secondly, 3 engine ferry flights are perfectly OK and performance figures are available in the Boeing flight manual.

The fan blades are secured to the housing of the N2 inlet to PREVENT rotation in flight - the engine is not running.

Many operators of 4 engine aircraft do / have performed 3 engine ferry flights (I have). The N2 section is also blanked to prevent it's rotation inflight and thus damage.

A visitor from Germany posted Fri April 22, 2011:
A three engines ferry flight! It is allowed that you can perfom a single ferry flight with one engine inop. The Boeing MM says you have to lock the the fan with some straps to reduce drag.

A visitor from Australia posted Fri April 22, 2011:
Exactly! Good posting as it shows how little some of us know about what aircraft can and cannot do, and what is sane or not sane. Well done!! There is much more to this picture than what is seems.

A visitor from United Kingdom posted Fri April 22, 2011:
Brilliant! But I recall that they have this streamlined fitting that goes on the front of the inop engine (makes it look like a rocketship lol) and that reduces drag dramatically.

A visitor from - posted Fri April 22, 2011:
This was prep for a 3 engine ferry, a procedure carried out by 747 operators all over the world many times a year. Most of the fan blades were intentionally removed and the the rest were secured.

A visitor from - posted Thu April 21, 2011:
What was I thinking? Of course a bunch of arm-chair a-nutters know more than the operator of this aircraft! Nice photo of a unique moment and glad you posted it! ****

A visitor from United States posted Thu April 21, 2011:
By "fly like this" I think is with the engine inop, maybe for a ferry flight or something in order to reduce drag and keep the libricant of the engine running.... but anyway its a really nice photo.

A visitor from United States posted Thu April 21, 2011:
Judging by these comments it's obvious that none of you guys have ever been around Kalitta. They march to the beat of their own drummer up there in Michigan!!!

A visitor from United States posted Thu April 21, 2011:
Pretty sure when it says fly like this it does not mean with this engine operating. Most of the blades are removed to reduce drag and the remaining ones are used to keep the engine from spinning. I would guess that air flowing through would not spin the engine fast enough to keep a proper amount of lubricant flowing to the bearings. Mostly guesses on my part...

A visitor from - posted Thu April 21, 2011:
Interesting photo. If this did fly, the engine was obviously not running.

A visitor from United States posted Thu April 21, 2011:
This is absolutely, completely, positively and 100% insane or else I don't understand a thing about aviation. These are indeed seatbelts holding up the blades together. What I don't want to think about is what will happen if one of them goes bust as this thing spins with several thousand RPMs. I bet it could make a hole big enough to go straight into the fuselage! My guess about what happened is that the engine suffered damage and someone tied up the remaining blades while intending to keep the engine off in the air. A 747 should be able to take off on 3 engines if empty, if I recall correctly.

A visitor from - posted Thu April 21, 2011:
No way! You could actually fly like that?! I think I may be a bit too gullible. :D Very nice photo

A visitor from United Kingdom posted Thu April 21, 2011:
Oh my !

A visitor from Italy posted Thu April 21, 2011:
Am I right if I say that these are seatbelts?

A visitor from United Kingdom posted Thu April 21, 2011:
If there are 3 blades in exactly balanced positions, such as I believe is the case here, then there is no problem with flying like this - in theory. The fact that you will get significantly reduced amount of compressed air within the engine would likely require a reduction in the amount of fuel (mixture adjustment) so that there wasn't too much fuel for the air to burn. Other than that there isn't a problem. Nice photo, I hesitate to say unique, but defiantly fascinating.

A visitor from - posted Thu April 21, 2011:
Maybe the plane could fly yes but the engine running? nooooo!

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